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August 13, 2025 41 mins

Not only will the Taylor Swift/Kelce podcast surpass the Club Shay Shay/Katt Williams number of 90M downloads, it'll hit 150M downloads before it's done. Pete Alonso hit career homer No. 253, passing Darryl Strawberry for the most home runs in Mets franchise history. And Odell Beckham’s career should've been WAY better than it was!

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really the first Happy Tuesday. In a few days, finally

(00:58):
the Mets win, but Moran few tuesdays you mean yeah?
And a few tuesdays uh peed Alonzo the new all
time home run king for the Mets.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Two home runs tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
He passes Darryl Strawberry and all I could think of
when he hit that home run. Was we better win
this bleeping game. That's all I thought, No time for
reflection or boy, it's great, I've seen more Pee Alonzo
home runs is a met than Darryl Strawberry and I
think about my life and my youth. No, it was
we better win this bleeping game, like one after the
Marie and then all of a sudden top before uh oh,

(01:29):
I'm in the moment. In the moment top before.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
You were cursing. Did not go well?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Feel it.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
In the larger universe that we have here in our
sports connectivity that suddenly things went awry. But then you
roll up a big thirteen thirteen run pool. Someone cashed. Yeah, yeah,
the Mets today. My dad always did fifteen run pools.
That was always the one I grew up on.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Thirteen run Okay, thirteen that's bad luck, man, that's like, well,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
What I would do. Yeah, but you can get a
bad Yeah, but you're winning. But I feel like you
got a positivity on the thirteen. Go back and look here.
You go back.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
I want you to go back and look at this.
Go back and look at everybody you know that won
a thirteen run pool. What happened is that a final destination?
You know, in the immediate aftermath of them winning the
off their ass because they suddenly had a pile of cash.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh you didn't hear what happened. They fell all the
way down roller steps. It was terrible and lost the money.
But most of those guys, it did not end well
for them. I mean, they all live short lives, and
you know, sorosis of the liver, okay, was a common element.
It seemed okay. I mean, I know I got dark,
but wow, you got really darkness. Wow. I'm like, if
you want to go, I'll play along. Sir, Helper, you.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Won the thirteen run pool and your sorosis diagnosis is
coming in any day.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
The diagnosis that's a good name for a band.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Or no sorosis diagnosis sounds like not a bet. It
sounds like the last cut on a on a heavy
metal album that's like nine minutes long, and sorosis diagnosis.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, it's so good. It's funny you say that on
the day we commemorate the album where one of the
great bands of all time went from seven minute opuses
to clean four and a half minute radio Yeah. Well,
you know, Metallica wanted to make money and uh, you know,
sell some tickets and uh hey, okay, the Black album
and they gave us a Wolf and Man off. Yeah, yeah,

(03:24):
thirty four years ago today, right, thirty four the way
back in nineteen ninety one Magical's time where it seemed
like we had record release parties every week.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Going back to the last great Metallica album. All it
was all hot take.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
You leave, load and reload alone. Load Load wasn't bad.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Between Load and Reload and a couple of others, you
could you could cobble together one good album with lou
Reed was your one, one good album. It was something
I'll walk on the metal side, right, That was the album.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
What was the Witches Do Do Do Do.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
What?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
No weldside, no outside walk on, no outside, walk on
the outside, walk on the waldside? Okay? Was the one
with Marianne faith On Load or reload? That was reload?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think there was reload like the Taylor Swift thing
pre pre order now.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Like I did get my ordering done. Oh the way,
that first Pete Alonzo home run might have been the
cheapest home run ever. That was not aesthetically pleasing.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Now, and you couldn't get a great call on it
either because it was a line drive over the wall.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Alonzo with a drive to right. It's deep that gone.
Oh it's gone, it's gone. No, it's deep. Pete has
done it. It's some record, but it was. It's like,
it's gone, it's out of here. Okay, home run, here goes?
How about that? It's Homer.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
But what we are waiting for obviously look the biggest
or there's so many questions. I got a hot take
for you coming up on this. We are I don't
know how many hours we are away from the Taylor
Swift New Heights podcast with Jason and Travis Kelsey. But
it drops tomorrow. I don't know if it's a midnight drop.
I don't know if it's a during the day drop.
Does it drop at six, does it drop at nine?

(05:09):
Does it drop it? I don't know when. But we
are hours away from the most anticipated I would say,
probably the most anticipated podcast seven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
We certain time tomorrow night, so it.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Drops tomorrow night, So twenty four hours away from Pacific,
so we'll have ample time to digest it before coming
out here.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
How long is it going to be? Like?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Is this even one of those extra long podcasts where
it's it's an hour and twenty four minutes. I can't,
I can't I have time for that. Come on, man, Okay,
it's an hour and twenty four minute.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Put Okay, so you wait for it to be chopped
up in the nice bite size morses.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh, hopefully by.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Seven o'clock week.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
But here's the thing, all right, right now, I'll tell
you exactly what we will and won't get tomorrow from
this podcast. Okay, Oh, now we know what's happening. We
know Taylor Swift's on there. Travis Kelsey's already dropped some
morsels about Hey, their relationship a little bit, and here
she is on the podcast. They're gonna talk about a
lot of things. Number One, I will say this, there

(06:07):
will be nothing on that podcast that is not Taylor centric.
Like there's not gonna be a lot on the Chiefs,
there's not gonna be a lot of other stuff going
on in football. That could be a lot of Week
one preseason, and it's gonna be all Taylor centric, because
if Taylor Swift is coming on this podcast, it's gonna
be all Taylor Swift centric.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Well, talking about how she loves football and how they're
learn she's learning football and football related concepts that that
he's taught her, or that she's picked up from being
in the crowd some of those experiences, I'm sure. But yeah,
you play to your guest, all right, let him tell stories. Yeah,
that's why it works. You know, Jay Glazer comes out

(06:43):
with us, he starts telling stories. He forgets himself sometimes,
which would when we get the really good stuff. So
that's what you need to do. Get her talking about
tour and being off the tour and whatever else you
can glean from that. I mean, he did plenty of
other photo shoots he had There's something what was it
Men's Health or GQ or whatever the hell that was. Yeah,

(07:04):
were you dressed like he was the Highlander or Proto
or yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, yeah, I think with a mix like if the
Proto got married and had a kid.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Kind of looked like you could have been from Lord
of the Rings in one photo and the next it
looks like he's, you know, looking for the quickening.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
You have to keep the ring, and you only keep
the ring by chopping the heads off of somebody else.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, there you go. See, that's an entirely different Loser
leads town match, absolutely does lose his sound last man standing.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
When I said this to my what we were talking
about this is my wife said, yeah, she's gonna proably
announce her new album. She's talking about it now. The
uh uh the new album she's got coming out, it's
it's you know, supposed to be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Obviously it's a Taylor Swift album. And she said. First
she said to me, was.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Are there are there subscribers and downloads down on that podcast?
I go, I don't think so. It's one of the
biggest sports podcasts out there. And she said, yeah, but
why is she doing this on the podcast? Like like
my my wife's thinking that maybe the numbers aren't what
you think there.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm like, interesting, I didn't think about it. I mean,
you can claim that for a lot of under me
when it comes to you all.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Of a sudden, here's a new album and here she's
on the podcast. Finally it's a recording artist podcast.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
But I mean it's a season premiere, right, so season premiere,
you know you you go for the gusto we are
we are dialing it up. Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Second thing, I will say, yeah, there will be a song.
I think we'll get a song, but we'll get part
of a song.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Will she talk over.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
We'll get part of a song and she'll talk over
at least half of it. Okay, it'll be like, here's
a song. They'll play it and then after you know,
so people can't just realize have it. They will rip
it and keep it. We're not paying any money for it.
They will you'll hear like half of the song. No,
you'll get the teaser trailer. I mean, they might give
you the full song and then put it up and
then put it up on Wow, the different because now

(08:46):
you can get all the downloads off it.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay. Look, they're already trumpeting how how highly downloaded and
viewed and listen to this podcast. Man, So she could
do the same thing with the first single off the
new new album. All right, you're gonna give you you know,
you're thirsty as hell here I can see that now
the big thing. And then you'll wait until October when

(09:09):
for the rest of the right right ships.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's yeah, it's a waste to go, man, to have this,
and we're gonna have an album and talk about it.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
When's it come out? You know, a couple of months, really,
two more months? Brilliant. It's about dating a loser. We
went through this last night, I remake Loser by Beck
and that's the first song off the album Kansas City.
I did like the mashup of taking a couple of
Taylor Swift songs, uh, interspersed with footage from last night

(09:37):
and soho the horror movie that starred Anya Taylor Joy
Or She's in one scene dancing around. So then you
had Taylor Swift mashed up with that. It was pretty good.
We lost a super Bowl because we couldn't beat Okay,
so here's the other thing right now, think about it. Okay,
the last great podcast that we've spent time talking about

(09:59):
that's at all kinds the number of marks we can't play.
Shannon Sharp became a multi zillionaire over his Club Sha
Shay podcast with Cat Williams, right, all the big stuff
about a year and a half ago, right that podcast
was with Cat Williams and he was broken. He was
trying to shake down Chad Johnson. Six grand y Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Ninety million downloads for that podcast, ninety million for Cat Williams. Man,
I mean, come on, I know we had stuff to
say that.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Was like whoa, but Cat said Williams stuff. Man, HADDJ,
The Cat Was in the Cradle and the Silver Spoon,
the Little Boy Blue downloaded the podcast to listen to
it wherever you get your podcasts from. But like that
is a great example. When you say ninety million downloads,
that sounds like a fugazy number to me's I mean, well,
one in four Americans down all download right, all all down?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, no people download it more than once to listen
to it again in a second and third time. So
I think all down. I think all podcast numbers are insane,
like they're all juiced up somehow. There's it's not an
equal playing field, like if you want to spend the
money to juice up podcast numbers and everything else. Okay,
you know there's there's there's ways to do that.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Right or you can just go download ours right now.
Yeah you didn't do down right there, or watch us
on YouTube. So ninety million is that number? Okay, ninety million,
ninety million downloads of the Cat Williams Shannon Shart podcast.
I very definitively can say this podcast will have more
downloads than that. Oh yeah, no, this will be going,

(11:29):
This will blow.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Past the ninety million download mark of Cat Williams because
number one. It's so anticipated where the Cat Williams thing
was one of those all of a sudden, Hey, look
what's going on. This is crazy. Look at what's happening
on this podcast. People started listening to it and going
back to it.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Begause.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
But this is such anticipation for unless something happens and
oh hey the internet has broke because you know, so
many people wanted to get this tomorrow. But I don't
see there being anyway. Taylor Swift with with being, you know,
on a podcast that potentially you're going to have songs debuted,
and here she is gonna talk about her relationship in
public for the first.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Time with Travis Kels.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Like, whoa, this is an insane pop culture moment that
we get once every ten years. I think in the
I think this is gonna pass ninety million. Easy to
be one of those movies where it's like, hey, all
of a sudden, it's the most highest grossing movie of
the summer and it's past movie X in you know,
two weeks and it's and it's steaming towards five hundred million,
will make a billion dollars globally, Like not only is

(12:26):
it gonna is it gonna go past ninety million. I
wouldn't be surprised after the first week or two. We're
talking about one hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty
million downloads.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, I mean across the globe. Now, across the globe,
because Taylor swifted it bigger than Kat Williams across the globe.
You're you're talking now these download But did she yell
at Travis Kelcey enough to rededicate himself to football? That's
the real that's the billion. He even said. He even said, Hey,
my TV career, my my NFL G got into that,
do you think not? Not like we didn't make that point.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Frostburg, What are you worried about the chief he's lost?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
It's not a Nightheart podcast. Who hell he's been He's
been bad since since he's been with Taylor Swift. Don't
you want that to cont garbage here? I put the
numbers in perspective though, in the echo chamber that is
the Twitter verse. You got over a million views for
the little teaser they put out nearly twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Not not only it will blow pass ninety million, blow pass.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
You want to just go full Sandler since he's part
of the Sandler universe. So there it is.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
There's your first Bowl prediction of the night, well past
ninety million. Maybe in the end it might double it.
I don't know how bold it might double it. No,
I don't know she's a double it. Yeah, but to
double to double that podcast.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
To double it, I mean Cat Williams. Yeah, yeah, No,
you're gonna crush that.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I mean when I say when I like Cat Williams,
Caro Williams, I always think of William Cat the greatest
American hero. That's only the person I know that expelled
you know, smell that. Oh cat Ka Okay, that's great. Yeah,
it's all right, that's an outstanding But I'm telling you
blow pass it.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
You might find some matters in some other forms of
media that spell it cat. Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, the Cat Denning's podcast, that's the that's the next
one I'll listen to. Now I listen to Cat Dennis
is part of the universe that could be entertained Steven
Doja Cat. I'll listen to doj Doja Cat. Sure, sure, sure,
all yeah, one hundred percent, all the same. But I
appreciate it about x ray Cat, what's that? X Ray
Cat's a thing.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
You just wake up.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, no, X ray Cat's a thing, dude. The Mets
haven't one in a week. Man, You think I have
time for other stuff? Come on, yeah, in your stadium?
So crappy.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
They ran out of fireworks. That's one of the greatest
announcements ever made in game. Though. Yeah, no, the Mets
are out of pirate tech. We weren't expecting to hit six
home runs the best of the season. No, no, no,
the Mets ran out of pyrotechnics because there were too
many home runs tonight, including two by people. Don't have
any more pyrotechniques. They put up a note on the
JumboTron to apologize to fans that we're looking for more colors,

(14:54):
so you'll have to go see them by other means.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
In two weeks, one hundred and fifty million download Taylor Swift,
Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Maybe in a week, maybe a week. You're really fixated
on between the pre pre order and I like those
I like those stuff.

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Speaker 3 (18:11):
And Pete Traves won at deep.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
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pretty good call, though it is a good call. It's
a pretty hit, a real job for for what was
a question. I mean, he would have looked foolish if
you been landing on the warning track or that gone,

(19:00):
there's a drive. Oh, I was invoking shades of Harry
Carey from all those years. Drive t blaff field, way back,
Dunstan catches at the edge of the infield.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Toy cow toy.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Uh No.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I mean, look, a big night for Peter. The Mets
finally win a game, I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Really losing a miserable month teams in New York. I
love some history.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I love stuff like this, but again, my first thought
was we better win this bleeping game, Like I am
done with the silliness of all that.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
We better win this bleeping game. And the Mets won,
So okay, Oh he did make it interesting for a minute.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
I got notice top of the fourth I feel like
that line from the Wire where it was I think
it was with a slim Charles who said, there's no history, man,
There's only the street and the game and what happens
here today. And I was like, yeah, I got no
time for history, man, There's a loonzo and the game
and what happens here today.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
And that was it? That was about right, Yeah, that's
the way to live. Slim charlesy gets rid of method mes.
Sorry spoiler. I mean you can't worry about what happened yesterday.
You can't fix it. Yeah, you got to move forward. No, no, look, hey, okays, Hey,
Mets win great. I feel like for the first time
I could wear metsic like the first time, relaid two
weeks and get not get stuff thrown at me, people

(20:22):
pouring sour milk on me. No, I don't want that.
I can't have that. That was you, He's happy to
do it. That was you. Hey, Hey, just congratulations Nauji
Harris being back at practice today. Congratulations on What does
that have to do with the Mets sucking. I'm just
saying congratulations on that happening. I'm just not saying I
gets hurt in an accident and then you're mocking him,
And I do want to say thank you. Why did
you wish harmone to both you and ty Shirt because

(20:44):
that was a big moment and you could have easily
played the butt fumble or the fail Mary or something
else crazy, and you played the ped alonzo. No, this
is what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's just as bad what are you talking about? You
played the pedal Alonso. Everything was fine. You didn't troll
me when that was I liked. I dig that, okay
once in a while. All right, we can do something nice.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I like that. We're all in together. How about you
go buy more fireworks for your stadium.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh boy, did I have a firework line that I
lay again? I'll lay off my firework punchline because you
played the play. Yeah, all tied to get it.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I'll lay off it right there. We weave a rich
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Speaker 1 (21:25):
So we have big quarterback stuff going on today, and
we have fourth string quarterback news, we have injury quarterback news.
And the big injury news Jordan Love is going to
miss likely the rest of the preseasons. Dowis undergoing procedure
to repair a ligament injury to his left thumb. This

(21:47):
first reported by Adam Schefter earlier today. He had his
left thumb taped during Monday's practice. He tried to play
through the injury before he decided, you know what, I
have to have it done. Obviously not on his throwing hand.
There is some thought that made maybe Love could return
to practice sometime as early as next week. But they felt, Listen,
this was the best thing to get him back and healthy,
so it's not an injury injury that lingers and we're

(22:09):
feeling good about him for the season. So it looks
like in theory, the Packers dodged a bullet here and
how they can go back to worrying about how they
got pasted by the.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Jets on Saturday, just pillar to post pasted by the Jets.
But it looks like they've averted disaster here, especially with
Hey maybe comes back at practice. It's his non throwing hand.
They'll find a way to make it work for the
beginning of the season. I don't, I don't, I don't.
I'm not that worried. If I'm the Packers, I don't
know how much you would have seen him going forward anyway, Like,
even if it was one hundred percent healthy, what's he

(22:39):
gonna play another series or two? It's all about getting
your your reps with your backups and everybody up and
going with the ninety seven receivers that you've brought into camp.
Still trying to figure out who the leads are in
the clubhouse, doesn't seem like, you know, we joked about
the the Browns in there. Let's just keep signing QB
kind of thing. That's what the Packers have done every

(23:00):
other day. It's like, hey, that guy played like, Hey,
there's Will Shephard. Hey he played for Colorado. Yeah, had him.
He's like number seven on the depth chart. Now, so
let's go.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Now, here's the here's the thing about Jordan Low right,
cause I can give you something different about Jordan Love's
gonna make you say, Okay, now I understand something.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
About Dak Prescott. Right, So here's Jordan Love.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
And when this story broke and we didn't really know
the d it was, Hey, Jordan Love is out going
to miss the rest of the preseason procedure on his
on his on his finger, that he got hurt on
the last snap that he took on Saturday against the
Jets because he got sacked on the play.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, that his last nap, But that happens a lot.
When when did you get hurt?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Actually, my last one, my last run, Yeah, my last play,
my last rue, the last thing I did when happened,
So he gets hurt, Okay, that's great. Uh, you know
we we the last play. But you know, like I said,
it happens. So there was a lot of all big
year for Jordan Love. Jordan Love's got to come through.
Not as great a year last year for Love and
this is a big year, pressure year for him. And
when I started reading that, I said, you know what,

(24:05):
I don't think general NFL fans just understand who Jordan
Love is. Okay, because first of all, his season last
year very similar to his breakthrough season in twenty twenty three. Right,
he missed a couple of games, but it wasn't as
great a year for the Packers. It didn't come out
of nowhere. There was expectations for Jordan Love last year,

(24:26):
which he kind of had the same year.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Right. He's a thirty touchdown ten interception kind of guy. Right,
that's what he is throwing for thirty seven four thousand yards.
That's what he did his first year. If he played
in every game last year, it's what he would have
done last year. Right, if you just extrapolate the numbers
and go, okay, plays two more games the number of
touchdowns number what he throws per game. But the first year,

(24:48):
it was unexpected that, hey, is Jordan Love going to
be any good. Boy, they're really rolling the dice getting
rid of Aaron Rodgers. What are they doing?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Oh wait a minute, he's really good. And boy that
playoff game against the Cowboys, perfect quarterback rating. We're gonna
be awesome. Jordan Love is great. He gets the big
contract extension a year ago. All right, great, we're good
with Jordan Love.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Man, let's go. Last year not as great for Green Bay,
but the season for Jordan Love was really very similar
to what he had his rookie year. It just because
there was expectation, it didn't look like it was the
same kind of year, But in reality, this is who

(25:28):
he was. Right he didn't. He had a horrible postseason
game last year against the Eagles, right when they got killed.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
He through three picks and it's absolutely crushed them. So
understand that Jordan Love is still a really good quarterback, right,
like really good? Is he an elite level quarterback? Is
he something that's gonna make everybody around him better?

Speaker 6 (25:46):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Could the Packers make things easier by not just saying
here's seventeen wide receivers. Get chemistry with a few of them. Nah,
I could to be doing a little bit better for now.
They keep getting in weapons, which is great.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
But I talk about career what I've just said about
it the first couple of years, and everybody who has
an opinion about Dak Prescott says the same thing. If
Dak Prescott was playing outside of Dallas, it wouldn't be this,
It would be X, Y and Z. We wouldn't be
talking about Dak Prescott as much. You wouldn't be if
Dak Prescott played outside of Dallas. I'll tell you right now,

(26:20):
he's Jordan Love in Green Bay. They're the same kind
of quarterback. They give you the same kind of numbers,
same kind of skill set, same early part of their career.
That would be how we talked about Dak Prescott. That
would be his impact on the NFL. If Dak wasn't
the Cowboys quarterback, he would be Jordan Love, a guy
that got attention because he was really good. We talk

(26:42):
about him, but doesn't play for the Cowboys. So really,
all right, your team has to be really good to
be a top front, top shelf conversation in the NFL,
because that's kind of how it goes. The heritage teams
always get talked about good, better and different. The Cowboys,
the Steelers, right, it always happens. But if you're really good,
all right, that's what brings you to the top. If
there's a year the Ravens aren't an we don't talk

(27:03):
about the Ravens. Ravens win the AFC north, Ay, we
talk about the Ravens a lot, right, That's kind of
how it goes. But that's kind of where that's the
same talent level, that's the same production, that's the same everything.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Jordan Love and Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
This is who Dak Prescott would be if he played
on a different team and wasn't on Dallas. That would
be his value, meaning he would still get this kind
of contract. He would still get this. People say, ay,
he's kind of overbead, He's still get a two hundred
and fifty million dollar contract. It would still be that.
Because Dak Prescott is a good quarterback. Does his value
get inflated to people in flate and put more expectation

(27:36):
because he plays in Dallas, of course, But the bottom
line is outside of Dallas, this is who he'd be,
which is still a really good quarterback. He just gets
more attention, more relevance, more everything because he plays with
the Cowbies. But you want to know who he'd be. Oh,
he'd just be a guy if he played somewhere else,
this is who he'd be.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, he looked at Jordan Love last year. I mean
his numbers again, extrapolate them out. If he's fully healthy,
plays all seventeen and even that you put an astisk
on because if you're really good, you get to do
a Queen's wave and sit down, as we saw some
guys get to do last year. But the other thing
they had that they didn't have in twenty twenty three

(28:12):
was a run game, right. Josh Jacobs was fantastic. Yeah,
the run game worked, and the stats bear it out
to where you didn't have that reliance in twenty twenty three.
That was a non factor. Jordan Love was one of
your leading touchdown scores as a runner. They were so
banged up at the position. So when you look at

(28:34):
what aj Dillon was and go back to what you
had with Aaron Jones before he departed, Yeah, they weren't
finding the end zone. So yeah, it's all inflated by
where you play and the expectations commensurate with it. You know,
you also had the surprise of what Minnesota ended up being,

(28:54):
which took some of that away from from Green Bay
and looking around going well, weren't we supposed to be
the front runner in division, you know, next to Detroit. No,
that didn't end up happening. Sam Darnold has this fantastic
season and everything flows right with the aforementioned Aaron Jones
in there, who was one of the great impact players

(29:15):
right where we saw the veterans show out. So yeah,
you're looking at the Hallmark franchises. Plus just the expectation is,
all right, you've now set your benchmark and you have
to achieve to that. Wins, wins and losses. I mean
there's always that argument, are they a quarterback stat or
are they not? Right? Yeah, and for dak.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well, in certain cities it is. In Dallas, wins are
a quarterback stat.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
In New York, wins are in a quarterback just quarterback stats,
a quarterba start for everything, right, certain cities, yes, wins
are a quarterback stat. And the expectation in Dallas is
that you were leading them to the promised line. We're
talking about the Jerry Jones documentary, you know, owing to
the greatness of thirty years ago and some of the
great quotes coming out from emmittt Smith, you know, kind

(30:03):
of looking side at the reporters as they're asking in
terms of, you know, Jerry's impact and everything else, of
trying to trying to be nice about it but being realistic.
And that's how long we've been going back as America's team,
even pre dating Jerry Jones' arrival. So yeah, it's it's

(30:23):
gonna be in under a different microscope, no question about it. Now.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I mean, now when you see everything, everything fits together,
similar start to their careers, similar expectations, but outside of
Dallas that now you can put a face to it. Oh,
he's Jordan Love and green Bank.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Jordan Love gets no favors because he's the next and
what we're two long, long tenured quarterbacks. Like, all right,
there's your expectation. Here's a couple of Hall of famers.
Now go do that exit out about a Fresco exit.
Swalling down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon time not to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. But guy who has been
called the Dak Prescott of Fox Sports Radio. Interesting he

(31:02):
once shook hands with Stan Cronkey at midfield as well.
It's Steve the same. H Is that true? No?

Speaker 5 (31:09):
No, I rarely seen Stan Kronkey. Just for the record,
we have Milwaukee winning an eleventh straight ball game tonight
and Paul Skens was starting for Pittsburgh. Fourteen nothing Brewers
was the finn Should we just head to the playoffs?

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Now?

Speaker 5 (31:24):
This is ridiculous? How good Milwaukee's the last couple of months.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, I'm glad we had to run into Milwaukee. You
know this past week when no lead was safe, Well,
Skis finally gave him a run in the first inning.
That's a first this year, right, And he's terrible against
the Brewers, but nails against everybody.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yeah, against everybody else. It's in the ra one point
seventy five, okay, four innings, four runs allowed tonight, fourteen
nothing Milwaukee the final and the winning Brewers pitcher Freddie Peralta,
is fourteen and five. He went six innings tonight. So
the first place Brewers record of seventy five and forty
four this year now seven and a half games up

(31:59):
on the cub who were beaten five to one at Toronto.
The Cub's offense went four for thirty one with ten
men left on base. In the Al East Toronto, the
first place team. They're going to still be four and
a half up on Boston. The Red Sox lead twelve
nothing at Houston in the top of the eighth, so
it's looking like Houston will be tied for first with
the Mariners in the Al West. Because Seattle has won

(32:21):
its eighth straight game, one nothing at Baltimore with a
run in the first.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
I'd say the trade deadline worked out well for the Mariners.
The trade deadline, I think it worked out pretty well well.
They did a choir by the way, you know, it
was one of those acquisitions that you're referring to. At
third base during the ninth, when the closer was on
the mound and the heat at Baltimore and I don't
know if he was too busy or ready to pass out,
he asked for the trainer come on, and they had
a three minute delay just so the guy could get

(32:47):
a towel and a drink of water.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Does this happen at any other position in the world
of baseball? This was an odd stoppage because, you know,
being an athlete at all, if you can't continue the back,
you just contind you can't continue it.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Right now, let's get let let's say this is not
little league softball.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's okay. Let's let's let them get a couple of minutes,
throw us the pitchloser of.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
A major league game. They just stopped the game so
you could tale off and feel a little better. No,
I mean, no offense. We've all felt that.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
But you know, well, don't you know, Rob Banford put
the toweling off break in the rules this year, teams
haven't taken advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Yeah, not going to see it in the Little League
World Series, but sure Major Links, Yeah, why not. The
Rockies have lost eight in a row. They're winning three
to nothing at Saint Louis, going to the bottom of
the ninth. White Socks had a rain delay early, so
they're only bottom of the sixth. But the White Socks
are leading Detroit five to one, Angels ahead of the
Dodgers four to three in the fourth. The Padres are

(33:42):
winning three to one at San Francisco bottom of the third.
It's possible the Padres tie the Dodgers for first in
the NL West tonight, No chance. The Yankees beat Minnesota
nine to one. Aaron Judge is thirty eighth homer Kansas
City and Cleveland with wins. Cincinnati beat Philadelphia six to one,
the Phils first in the least five games over the Mets,
who did win thirteen to five over Atlanta. That ends

(34:05):
a seven game losing streak. Pete Alonzo with a couple
of long balls. Career home runs two hundred and fifty
four that is the most in Mets history. He passes
Darryl Strawberry, by the way. In that Yankees winch and
Carlos Stanton four hits, including a homer.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
The Angels lead.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Over the Dodgers four to three going to the bottom
of the fourth inning. Now and yes, Packers quarterback Jordan
Love had surgery on his left thumb. Green Bay wide
receiver Christian Watson with a bad knee, likely to start
the season on the pup lists.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Or Radio Studios. Coming up next,
We had another big story out of the NFL. A
big time NFL star retired today, and then then he didn't,
and then we found out he never retired at all,
except he pretty much is retired.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
That's next right here, Jason amusing.

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Speaker 3 (35:26):
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Just search Jason Smith and Mike Harmon wherever you get
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version posted right after we get off the air. So
I said a few minutes ago a story about an
NFL star who was retired. Then it turned out it
was a fake story. He didn't retire, okay, but he's
pretty much retired anyway. This is a day that was

(35:47):
for Odell Beckham Junior.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Oh a A, and it really got a lot of people.
A fake Adam Schefter account, not even a Darren Schefter.
This is Adams Schefter with the one in the middle
like instead of the instead of the tea like. Uh
had a.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Picture of Odell Beckham with his kid looking up in
Giant Stadium and saying, hey, Odell Beckham Junior, who's played
for five teams over the course of his career, has
decided to retire.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
All this it's like.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Whoa, and again the internet is undefeated. All you have
to do is look and say why did this happen?
Look and see that, Oh, Adam Schefter only has eight
thousand followers on Twitter. Huh, Okay, maybe it's not him.
Oh maybe, Oh it's it's a one instead of an
F for a te Okay, that doesn't seem right either.
But still it got out, got a lot of people, right.
I so Yahoo, and they had to delete it really fast,
and they haven't.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I think Yahoo even had a story up going, hey,
what is Odell's career? How is it underachieving? Is it
then to just get rid of it? Because oh no, no,
it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So Odell got upset and he puts a message out
on social media saying, I am not retired. If I
am retired, you'll be the first to know. If anybody
wishes me happy retirement, I'm gonna have to unfollow. And
this is why happy retirement was trending on Twitter because
people kept saying happy retirement Odell and getting blocked after

(37:09):
it was over. So here's Odell who's saying, no, I'm
not retired, but pretty much Odell Beckham's retired, right did.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
You just did you send it to him just so
you could get No? No, no, no no no no
no no, I don't need that. I mean, but pretty
much Odell's retired, right, Like you look at where he's at.
He's never been able to overcome the injuries, and you
know the lack of production after his third year in
the NFL. Last year was his lowest year in the
NFL for games, for output, for everything. He's at the end, right,

(37:40):
injuries have robbed him. And look and and anytime you
say injuries plus being a headache, which Odell has been
in his different spots, that's not going to add up
to a long NFL career. Right after his third year
in the league, whatever it was for him, I'm believing
in myself too much of a superstar. He was an
issue with New York with all of his antics. And
then when he stopped being that guy and he's stopped

(38:02):
being able to stay healthy, guess what that's when the
that's when the Giant said, Okay, we've had enough Cleveland
tried he add an okay year in Cleveland once that was,
and I'd just do an okay year like he had
a Terry McLaurin light year in Cleveland in twenty nineteen
and then not being able to stay healthy really stay
in the lineup.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
And last year nine games played for Miami, he caught
nine passes for fifty five yards. Like it's over for
Odell Beckham, even if he's not saying it's kind of
over for Odell.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah, I mean he hasn't been a factor really since
twenty nineteen, so I mean it's it's a lot of years.
So when I saw the shelfer or the chef Won Shelfler, Scheffler,
Scottie Scheffler, Adam Shelfler, shelf shelf Life, whatever the San
Diego Ians parody account was, I think it was shell.

(38:54):
He even says it on there if you click on
it parody account, Oh okay, nope, nope, gonna see it.
Gotta get out whatever. It started getting retweeted by legit accounts,
as you said, and he responded as like, oh I
thought he was already done. So I mean, it's unfortunate
that he's one of those guys, but he had his moment.
It's been a minute, made another couple of tries, and

(39:17):
the fact that he keeps getting calls means teams are
still looking for someone some answer at wide receiver. But
that's long in the rearview mirrors. Yeah, and look, that's it.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
When you talk about him and his health, health not
health is not really the number one thing in all
of this because it's not like he's been limited to
a handful of games, right, Like, yeah, I got hurt
in twenty seventeen with the Giants, right, I only played
four games.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
That was tough. But then twelve games, sixteen games all right,
seven and twenty twenty fourteen and twenty twenty one, fourteen
and twenty twenty three, so he was playing the majority
you've seen Now.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Was he as healthy? No, did he miss some time
out of the lineup, But it's like after his third year,
like that was it, Like he could have been and
should have been Jerry Rice, Like he should have been
that kind of receiver because of what he was able
to do physically, and especially on a Giants team where suddenly, WHOA,
He's unstoppable. Right, It's not like the Giants had tons

(40:17):
of great weapons, and Odell Beckham still being able to
be guither was somehow find his way wide up. When
I think of ode obviously you think of the catch.
I think of Odell. How many how many across the
middle patterns he ran deep down the field where he
was not like ten yards and find a spot this
is twenty five yards and he makes a cut on

(40:39):
a dime and he's in the middle of the field
and the defensive back is eight yards away from him.
So instead of a hey, here he comes over the
middle for ten yards in a first down, it's twenty
seven yards, like like, that's what I see that? And
he should have been that guy. And you hear all
the stories. Did he love football enough? Was he too
much of a problem, too much of a headache? Teams
didn't buy into him? All of this, But no matter
how you want to slice it up, his career would

(41:00):
have been so much better than it was.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Five thousand yard seasons, including that final one with Cleveland
in twenty nineteen. But yeah, it's a lot of hope,
a lot of expectation, and certainly when you get on
the radar for a big play that always stands out right.
I mean go back to you know, some of the
guys that were defensive stalwarts that had big moments in college. Oh,

(41:25):
that's gonna break them downeah yeah yeah, and then it didn't.
Yeah for him, it was a nice short run.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
We three years of of fantastic play and then that
was it. That was it. But that's it. I mean
that that's a career for most NFL guys.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome. Jason Smith
Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, Guess who's still a fourth string quarterback?

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