May 13, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike explain how Injuries plague the NBA playoffs more than any other sport. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the show to talk about Derek Carr’s legacy. And the Dallas Mavericks somehow win the NBA Draft Lottery!
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Monday. Is it really yes? It is.
I got a lot of crap going on right now, Harmon.
I got a lot of stuff happening right now. Got
the Hurricanes, I shepherded them do a three to one lead.
I got the Mets in the ninth inning, tied with
the Pirates, the I got the course the Knicks up
(00:51):
by nine with three minutes left to go. I'm dealing
with a lot of stuff right now. I'm looking bulldorm.
We gotta get a what a live rooster to take
the curse off of Hector's glove. We're dealing with, dealing
with a lot of I've got a lot of stuff
going on right now. Yeah, I can see you're completely
amped up. We watched the end of that Stanley Cup
playoff game Fantastic. You called for the public flogging uh
(01:13):
and release of Francisco Lindor, get rid of indoor and
and acun you get rememberoth Erison the Ninth and the Gamber.
You went on a five minute rant, not ten minutes
prior telling me he's the greatest thing of all time.
He was bored and it doesn't matter that yet too.
Piter Alonzo is gonna win this game with a walk
(01:34):
off sack fly Mets get the w Okay, I'm two
thirds of the way there. I'm not just halfway there
with bon Jovi, I got the Hurricanes, I got the Mets.
Now I got shot him? Hey shot a man, I
got you got a steal and don't I'm in a
nine point lead, and Jason Datum laying in a heap
shot May with a lot of shots of Al Horford
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right now, the Knicks with a one thirteen, one oh
four lead over the Celtics with three minutes to go
(02:18):
in the fourth quarter. Look, I don't want to go
too crazy because I know somehow this game is gonna
be tied with a minute left. Okay, I'm not gonna
go to I know that's what's gonna Somehow the Knick
Celtics is gonna be tied with a minute left to go. Okay,
I'm okay with that. But let me just say this,
for the the it's been kind of a thing the
last few days. You have seen, oh the NBA is
(02:38):
unwatchable crowd come out again with a lot of different things. Right,
all the NBA is unwatchable. The NBA's on watchmap. Uh,
this game tonight, and there's gonna be a big update
we're gonna bring you with Jason Tatum coming up in
a second. All you have to do is watch this
Beaches that all you have to do is just watch.
This is the Tatum Brunson game. Right and now, Jason
(02:59):
Tatum just got hurt for the second time in the
second half, twisted his ankle. He was helped off the floor.
I assume that is going to be it. We're not
gonna see him again the rest of the night. But
this game, up until this point, this has been Tatum,
bruntson Tatum Brett. Anything you can do, I can do better.
Every time Brunton hits a shot, you go, my goodness,
I can't believe it. Tatum comes down the other way
(03:20):
and it's a three. Look. The guy can get his
shot more than anybody else in the NBA can get
his own shot at any situation. It has been amazing
to watch these two guys duel this entire game. The
Celtics hit all a bunch of threes, it was looked
like it was gonna be a runaway. Then Jalen Brunson
brings the Knicks back in the third quarter, when it
looks like they're gonna run away, Tatum starts hitting shots,
(03:42):
getting into the lane. Really, it has been some kind
of Brunts and Tatum show. But now the rest of
this game is gonna be played without Jason Tatum. Huge
first quarter where you see the barrage towards the end
and it became in all right, here we go game three.
Look once again, but bit by bit as you lay
out with Jalen Bronson. But he didn't come alone, right.
(04:02):
He brought friends to the show this time around, as
opposed to making it a one on one conversation. This
is like the fight between the news teams in Anchorman,
where more guys come to the party. Right, Because Bridges
has twenty three, you got twenty one from Cat eighteen
from Ananobi, including a number of huge defensive plays, and
(04:24):
that's the thing that's got to be under you know,
underscored here in the fourth quarter, filling passing lanes, aggressive
with each possession, no easy buckets except for the one
that literally, as I say, no easy buckets. But all that,
just the attempts to pass it across the court, up
around the arc, just the length of Ananobi and the
(04:48):
other defenders, just wreaking havoc, causing so many turnovers and
just failed possessions where it's now the scramble with the
shot clock winding down to get something up towards the buckets.
So overall, just a fantastic effort the second half by
the Knicks, really controlling things as we get down the stretch,
(05:08):
Go New York, Go New York. Frostburg drive driving that bandwagon.
It is a ten point lead for the Knicks with
just under two minutes left to go in the fourth quarter. Right, well,
we plenty of time for Brunson. However, we got it
till we have a little bit more on Jason Tatum
right now, he has helped off the court, as we said,
an ankle injury on a turnover. H Ogano Noby has
(05:31):
had a terrific game. He has stepped in the passing
lane many times for the Knicks uh turnovers in the
second half. He had one turn one turnover early in
the fourth quarter where Jalen Brown had to tackle him
from behind because he jumped in the passing lane and
got and got the ball for a layup. But what
just happened a couple of minutes ago, and this is
where things are a little scary. Jason Tatum has the ball,
(05:53):
the Knicks have a have a nine point lead, and
Tatum looks like he's going to you know, he's got
the ball on the wing, right, and he comes he
has the ball on the wing and he passes out
and it looks like he's waiting to get the ball back.
And here's the play by play of what happened after.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Its Jaylen Brown back he lost the ball. Adob oh
By himself throws it down and Titum is heart. Tartum
is down. He wants a time out. Titum is so
much pain. Sus call time out there? It does Mike
(06:32):
Breen with the call right there. Uh, this is how
it looks. He's chump coming to get the ball back.
Jalen Brown looks like he's gonna give it back to
Jason Tatum and hw Nobe steps in the passing lane
and he picks off the ball and goes down the
other way. Tatum just simply steps forward to try to
get and grab the ball first and his right leg
(06:54):
he just collapses. It's a non contact injury. He takes
a step back with his right foot to try to
get down, to try to come back and get the ball,
and then he just collapsed. He was helped off the floor.
He is in pain.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
He was just shown coming off in a wheelchair with
his hands covering his face. We don't know what kind
of injury this is. Certainly you see this and look
just because of injuries we've seen. It could be an
achilles injury. It could be an ankle injury. But he
doesn't turn his ankle it's a straight step back, which
tells me you've seen this for achilles or a calf injury.
(07:30):
So it does look like it wasn't like I don't
know that it's so much an ankle injury as much
as it could be a calf or an achilles non
contact injury. He simply tries to plant and step forward
and he can't, couldn't put any weight on it. As
he was helped off the floor and again in a wheelchair,
taken off with his hand on. He got a big
round of applause from the from the Knicks players and
(07:53):
the Celtics players as they came off again. A non
contact injury for Jason Tatum. And suddenly this throws the
rest of the play off, the rest of the playoffs
for the Celtics in flux. They're gonna lose this game.
They're gonna go down three to one to the Knicks.
And now it's is Jason Tatum going to play again?
When is he gonna be able to get back? Because
you have the non contact grabbing at his achilles that
(08:16):
none of this looks good for Tatum and the Celtics.
Number of your internet doctors, all folks that I have
not verified their CVS, but we'll take them at face
value for the moment, with their histories and check marks
and everything else, going straight to the Achilles right several
with the tag of hope the video lies because you
(08:37):
and I as we watch it go down as he
comes to challenge anonomy for the ball just goes down
in a heap, and immediately he's screaming and he's in
a heap, down on the floor, and the play goes
on and immediately would you have five staffers get out there?
No pressure on his leg as he comes off anguish.
(09:00):
So just a horrid end to I mean, he'd been
fantastic all night long. Every time Brunson or Ananobi or
Cat made a shot at one end, he was at
the other to keep the pressure on. Get got up
what forty two points I think was the last as
we saw him hitting three after three, and then a
(09:23):
play that had been so problematic for him just from
an execution standpoint becomes their worst nightmare. One of the
game stars and a guy who's much debated in terms
of his rank in the hierarchy of the current NBA
goes down. Hopefully, hopefully the video does lie in this regard.
I mean, look, there's three things you look for right
(09:46):
in plays where where you say, okay, how bad is
this injury? Non contact is always the worst, right, that's
always the worst. But a non contact could always be
something where you turn an ankle, it's a tweak and
you come back, but non contact the worst, no pressure
on it coming off when you know we can't do that,
and there's there's no there is no twist where it
(10:06):
could just be an ankle tweak of some kind where
oh oh, maybe he'll be okay. Maybe it's just something
where it's the end of the game and we're not
gonna do it. We're gonna let him just sit back
and and uh and and come off the floor. There
was none of that. I mean, it was just it
was a straight back, I'm putting my like I'm putting
my back foot down to plant and then just falls
(10:27):
right down. There was no step like almost as if
like you stub your toe kind of thing where he
just goes into the ground as like, okay, not a
lot of twisting, but maybe maybe just enough pressure there
for the momentary, but no quite obviously something far worse.
Look and and this is this is what happens in
the NBA as as we look at this season, right,
(10:49):
we talk about injuries, and injuries affect the NBA playoffs
more than any other playoff, more than more, more than
the NFL, more than Major League Baseball because superstars are
not as ironclad as they used to be. And when
the first round happened in the playoffs, what did I say?
I probably stupid because I put this out in there.
I said, Hey, usually we see an all star team
(11:09):
of guys injured missing games by now at that point, right,
and all of a sudden, it's okay, it's it's it's
it's not And Willard was more of a you know,
a medical condition than it was an injury. It's like, hey,
is he okay with his you know he? And right
after that but you're to okay, can he come back?
Can he play? But now you're and this is why
when the NBA playoffs, when the NBA playoffs hit, it
(11:29):
doesn't matter how great you were during the regular season.
It makes no difference if you're dominant, because if someone
comes down on an ankle wrong, if someone comes down
on the floor wrong, all of a sudden, everything changes, Right,
Who are the three best teams in the NBA this
season Cavaliers, Celtics, and the Thunder, and all of them
are in trouble. All of them are in trouble. The
(11:50):
Celtics are in a three to one hole. The Knicks
win at one twenty one, one thirteen. The Cavaliers are
in a three to one hole. Now you don't know
is Jason Tatum gonna play again? Is are you gonna
have Donovan Mitchell right for Game five here when you
need them? And clearly the Thunder have all they could
handle with the Denver Nuggets in the second round of
the playoffs. These are the three best teams in the
(12:12):
regular season and now it's the door is wide open
to win a championship. This is no matter how it looks,
no matter how great a team looks, these things happen.
You can't and you can't bank on injuries. But obviously
that's been a part of the NBA the last few years,
the last five seven years. It's you see all kinds
of big injuries, and they happen. It's not just support
play as well. We're missing our six man. We're missing no,
(12:33):
you're missing superstars. We're missing games, game after game after game. Well,
what's a by the time, it was a joke that
it was the second season, not because of u the
attrition this way, but just when we're looking at three
months of television covers, hah, it's almost as long as
the actual season itself. But now it's the how do
you manage to get to the end of March, first
(12:55):
week of April in as best a rotation as game
Because that's the thing that comes out of this game too, Jason,
is the fact that both starting lineups just traded blows
the entire time. Like my Anchorman analogy isn't too far off. Now,
Prichard ends up with twelve points, so it becomes a
nineteen point bench effort. But for the longest time you're
(13:16):
looking at fourteen to ten was the margin and the
usage of these benches. Shorten the rotations and get every
minute you can out of your starters, and with that
you're gonna welcome in court trouble at times. And unfortunately
it showed up in the worst of ways in this one.
So we'll keep you updated on that. Let you know
(13:37):
when to hear something about Jason Tatum. I assume we're
not going to get anything official tonight. While we'll hear
postgame from the teams, but the Knicks Jalen Brunson throwing
towels all over the court. The Knicks are up three
to one. Go New York, Go New York, Go go
New York, go New Yeah it's a super milew what
are you doing?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Hey, games still happened, the guys, The game still happened.
The games. Let it breathe them minute crying out. Man,
we just spent the entire last twelve minutes on Jason
Tatum hoping he's okay, hoping he's all right, you know,
going through everything we be. Now you're dancing over the top.
So I'm just saying, not just saying. I can say,
go New York, go New York. I could do it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Celtics lost again.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
How it's got Yes, the Celtics lost again. Wow, Nicks
are up three to one. Look at this nixt THU
right again? What did I go back when I said
a week ago Nick Pacers Eastern Conference Finals? Yeah no, no,
oh wait a minute, wait a minute, Jason might really
be right about that. It could really happen, could really happen.
Uh So we got more NBA on the way again,
(14:34):
only in the first game of the night. We got
the big second game coming up in a little bit,
uh but straight ahead, big stuff out of the NFL.
Or were already seen Shdur Sanders win the quarterback job
in Cleveland. All that and more coming up next, Jason
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Not even this song is gonna upset me tonight. Not
even this song.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know what what what getting swept by the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Uh, I'll worry about that later. I got the Nixon win,
I got the metsa win, your the Hurricanes of win
like this is. This is a deer of my life
right now. In Sports Mike Garmin Show Fox Sports Training,
I we're setting Jason home go elated to go do
something else great with his night since he's three and
oh in the Sport of Universe, We'll update you on
(17:14):
the Jason Tatum injury as soon as we hear more.
Tatum leaving the end of the Celtics loss to the
next to night Nick's now up three to one in
their series with the defending champs. Tatum goes down with
a non contact injury. Looks to the achilles area he
tried to plant to go after a loose ball. It
doesn't happen, ties to different part of the body. No,
(17:34):
I'm saying goodbye to Derek Carr. Oh well yeah, well
we will get to that. He's definitely broke. Yeah, he
had a good run. Tatum goes down again. Non contact
injury was not an ankle twist. He put no pressure
on his foot as he as he was helped off
the court. Very emotional hand over his face as he
was taken out in a wheelchair. Again, does not look
(17:55):
good for Tatum. Keep our best thoughts out there for
one of the best players in the NBA, and as
soon as we get an update on it, we will
bring it to you. Uh time out to talk little
NFL big stuff happening today. We screw the Cowboys day
joining us now on the hot line. Longtime NFL insider
check them out on Odyssey, Washington Post one A five
seven The fan in Baltimore, Jason locking for it, Jay,
(18:16):
what's happening man? How are you?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I'm doing okay? How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Good?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Thanks?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I got the nixt one, the Mets one, the Hurricanes.
W I'm feeling feel pretty good right now. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
The Hurricanes thing. Is that just hitting the capitals or
is that? Are you?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Are you like an old Hartford Oh well, Yamino Whalers fan? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So that's me right now. Like what I got? I
got the Midas touch right now. I got to hope
he keeps going as long as it can. I don't
know how long it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So is that Jerry Jones singing brass bonanza? So excited
to watch the Eagles get their rings and race the
championship banner opening night as that game was announced today.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Well, look, that's the closest they're going to get to
anything like that, probably as long as he owns the team.
So they should. They should get to play the Super
Bowl winner in Week one every year, you know, like
we've got the Hall of Fame game and Ken Yeah,
we've got certain we've got certain sports traditions and things,
you know, forever, right the mL first MLB game of
(19:18):
the year would be in Cincinnati. Uh, we've obviously got
the traditions with Dallas and Detroit ball and Thanksgiving. Yeah,
I mean, I you know, that's that's as good it's
going to get for Jerry. So did you jump in
at they're going to get their asses kicked? I will
be betting that game probably in the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I was going to say, whatever the market that.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, it's kind of it's kind to only expand over time. Yeah,
good good luck Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So this also would get us into the futures market.
I think a little bit, mister locking Ford, because you
got a bunch of backloaded games for the Bears, So
that would mean they expect the Bears to be good.
Uh like what I was getting the Cowboy he's here
means short them.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, well in general, I just you know, I'm telling
you guys forever right, Yeah, they made the Cowboys. Uh yeah,
I mean we'll get the full picture of this, my god,
in dribs and drives over the next forty eight hours,
and it's going to make me want to pat myself
in the eyes with a fork every time somebody's reporting
on an NFL FO that we already knew were going
(20:26):
to be played. We just didn't know when or where.
Well we knew where, we used to know when. Yeah.
I will certainly digest the schedule and it will and
impact some of some of my wagering, although I don't
think it's going to change my power rankings exponentially. But yeah,
(20:46):
I will wade back into the futures market when we
have a full catalog, because make no mistake, there will
be teams who get screwed. I mean there will be
teams who have four and five game stretches that just
look kind of very incongruous to the norm, and depending
on the caliber of the roster and the caliber the
head coach, sort of their institutional strength or lack thereofs.
(21:10):
I mean, those are things that can beckon, you know, crack.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Teams in half Jay, You know what one gift I
think we're getting right now that none of us expected,
but we're getting it is apparently the quarterback competition in
Cleveland has begun, like the last three are Hey, Gabriel
and Shador Sanders. Who looks better? Like this is the
earliest I could ever remember getting like real legitimate updates
(21:34):
of who looks good, who's ahead of who, Like this
is a gift for us right now. It's May and
we're already in a quarterback derby.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well, I mean it is going to be interesting once
they you know these OTAs how they divide up the
reps and Placo's been number four and he's going to
start week one, and I guess he needs the least.
But you know, the team has changed the fair amount
since he left there and I fired you know, his
offensive coordinator and play college is he was too damn
(22:03):
good with him, you know, so we had to get
him out of there because Deshaun's coming back, and that's
going to make the Shawn uncomfortable. You know, if this
guy's called, you better callim plasure for Flacco than him
or whatever. The nonsensical thought process of the owner was
to get Flacco out of the building in the first place. Yeah,
it's going to be the breakless reporting that we usually
(22:24):
only get in training camp and every day which guy
gets his reps first and seemingly going to be a
thing and who gets the most and by what margin.
I just again, there's only so many to go around,
and they've got sort of a weird pecking order there,
and at some point due you know, does somebody get
(22:46):
hurt somewhere else, and then you know they send a
kid from Pittsburgh there just to sort of clear out
a little more space. I don't know, but Kevin's de
fancy is going to be dealing with, Yeah, your point
of level of sort of intro league and reporting to
what is pretty sort of yearsly drama free and this
(23:07):
uninteresting sort of practices. Yeah, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Now talking about one quarterback competition to a guy who
ran on a posed like a congressman in a small
district somewhere h for eleven years. Derek Carr, how will
you remember his career?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
I'm not a big Derek Carr guy. I just have
to kind of I mean, I kind of feel like
he one really good year with the Raiders and it
kind of propelled him to great fortunes for like another decade.
And he may have done that with delv Like did
he do it with Dell Rey? I feel like he
did it with the staff where it was like I
felt like I had to him a lot of credit
(23:47):
that season, but I think he got, you know, as
much mileage out of that one season as anyone could
have ever expected. And the contract that the Saints gave him,
I don't know what you know, Mickey Loomis, what else
he had going on in his life at the time
where he decided that was what they should do, you know,
(24:07):
post Drew Brees, with all the other bad contracts they
already had on their books, like that one will always
sort of boggle my mind. But yeah, I don't, I'm
just not. I don't know. The way he played the
game always felt like he had opportunities to make way
more plays than he did, And I kind of always
felt like when he got in the red zone and
(24:30):
there was any sort of expectations on his teams, bad
things tended to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Throw it out the back of the end zone and
it wasn't. Jack del Real led sore back in twenty fifteen,
he and Muskrat when he.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Had his year where he was like, yeah, yeah, right, Muskra.
I mean, I just remember I knew a lot of
guys in that staff, and I was like, Wow, this
guy looks like this guy with that cast and that
coaching staff doing this like he must be pretty damn good.
And then that was a.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Pinnacle Jason locking for an NFL inside whether it's Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Orts radio studios. All right,
So now that this happened, right, obviously he had the
Saints having it. They could go in with Schuck maybe
wanting to win the job or trying to push him
up there. But we're still waiting to find out Aaron Rodgers'
decision with the Steelers. Has the quarterback market changed in
the last forty eight hours as far as destinations or
(25:16):
potential trades with Derek Carr's.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Retirement, I don't think so, because I mean, Derek Carr's
situation was really murky to begin with, and it did
not look like he really wanted to play for them
or that they really wanted him to play, and it
was clear he was going to need you know, this
other procedure or whatever. So no, I don't, I don't
think so. I think New Orleans, I mean New England.
(25:40):
New Orleans is going to go I think with what
they have, and I think that's going to prove to
be pretty ugly. And this is going to be the
sort of not that he did. The last couple of
seasons haven't been bad, but I think this is going
to be the really kicky in the teeth here, And
can they shed some of these contracts by the deadline?
Like I could see New Orleans being a full blown
(26:01):
tank mode trying to get themselves a quarterback at the
very top of the draft next year.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
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the Fan in Baltimore Washington Post, where he's working on
one thousand words on the big Syracuse lacrosse comeback in
the first round against Harvard yesterday. Jay good luck with
that peace. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Now I'm not I'm running five thousand words from Kevin
Denenre You go.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
See you, buddy, Jason. You know the thing about Derek Carr, right,
because you know, thinking about this today, every quarterback leaves
a legacy when you play as long as he did.
Look a guy through for forty thousand yards and a
starting quarterback in the NFL for a decade, right, and
when you think about it, and sometimes the legacy is
a way you played. Sometimes the legacy is one moment
in time, and for Derek Carr, it's that one moment
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in time because he was never the same after his
injury in twenty eighteen or twenty sixteen, if you remember,
he comes out as a rookie, has a really good
year in twenty fourteen, and then has an MVP type
season in twenty fifteen. Twenty sixteen, the Raiders look like
they are on a collision course with the Patriots for
the AFC Championship. Right. The Raiders were fantastic. And this
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is you know, they were still in Oakland for another
four years, but this was when the Raiders looked like, hey,
we're back out again, you know, we've had our time
as a laughing stock. We have our quarterback. You know,
Carr was a second round pick and he really jumped
in right away and played really People forget how good
he was his first three years in the league. But
he gets hurt late the last game of the regular season,
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and the whole big It's broke line, which is what
you know, the line Tyshirt's been running since he said
that ten years ago, we've been running that on the show.
And he never made it back. He was never quite
the same after that. He was always after that. He
came back and he was okay, he was maybe a
little bit over league average, but he was never at
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the elite level that the that he was at his
first three years in the league. And when you think
about that, Okay, so the Raiders next level of competition,
of of of success never got there. But had that
not happened, you start to wonder, do they ever leave Oakland?
Maybe they get to the super Bowl that year, maybe
they beat the Patriots that year. They were really good
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that year. The Raiders were really good in twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, and twenty sixteen they were one. I mean
I remember that year going this is gonna beat Raiders,
are gonna wind up playing them. The only team that
can beat the Patriots is the Raiders. So you wonder
after that, if they have that kind of success, if
Derek Carr doesn't get hurt and he's still that level
of quarterback, do they stay in Oakland? Does he finished
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catching kind of career? Is he still you know, there
is their success keeping them in Oakland somehow? Like that
injury would you could look at it and say that
might have sealed the deal on their eventual move because
they never really competitive after that and car came back
and like I said, he was okay, he's really like
a twenty and ten quarterback from there on out right
he was a little bit over league average, And I
don't mean like not like you're talking about like maybe
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thirteen fourteen fifty that's kind of where he was, Whereas
he was a top seven, top eight quarterback his first
three years in the league. That injury, maybe they're still
in Oakland, Maybe the NFL changes, but that that really
was such a thing that affected so many layers of
the NFL. Ye'd have to go back and look at
the twenty seventeen twenty eighteen rosters, attrition and moves that
were made there, and because they were already going into
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operation shutdown with the anticipation of Las Vegas at that point.
Because he came back, it had a big year. Their
first year in Vegas. He was twenty seven to nine
on the year. That's a nice three to one ratio
to do the quick fuzzy math. But that's five years.
That's five years later. Hey okay, hey, good year.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Funny.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But that's the point is this was a guy that
was based on that early promise. He got that door
opened for a long time, as mister lockinfora alluded to
right where you just kept waiting for him to be
that guy, but situational football was not as friend right
forty two thousand yards. But we'll always remember him for
throwing the ball out of the back of the end
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zone or even with few mistakes nine interceptions, you know,
miss misplayed balls and you know quarterback rating saving moves
and things of that nature that that go on down
to which made him and his family fight everybody in
the Twitter verse and online for the last half decade.
(30:26):
Right and then he had a couple of years where
the football gods came back on him and and he
pressed and didn't have the arm strength to get it there.
But you go back to the year that you're alluding to,
the the MVP year. I mean, that was a year
that was just so uncanny because we're talking about attrition
in these NBA playoffs and we watch it through the
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you know, just scores of guys that go down over
the course of an NFL season. That Raiders team was extraordinarily.
It was like every guy had a rabbit's foot in
his cleat until that play, right, They didn't miss any time,
like they were healthy on both sides of the ball,
and then all of a sudden, in one faithful play,
you know, maybe the fortunes changed. I still say they
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would have ended up in Vegas because the pot of
gold was too big at the end of the rainbow,
exit out bout a Fresca exit, swollen Dome. Jason Smith
Mike Carmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. More
NFL on the way. But right now, Martin White's gonna
tell you what's trending in the wide world of sports.
Nothing bigger than the next three to one lead Mit
Shoe over the Boston Celtics. Yeah, go New York Go,
(31:31):
New York Go, and swearing get Piston.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Sure you know, I told him, though I did tell
Jason earlier today. I was rooting for the NIXT today
and in this postseason. I'm I'm ready for Boston to
to go off into the sunset.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
They haven't even been there that long. That's fine. I
don't want the Nerds to win everything the Knicks do.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Everybody complains about we're all things twenty years ago that
people clapped and championed.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I like the fact that they play a lot of minutes.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Jalen Brunson, on that note, forty minutes tonight he was
McHale Bridges had forty four but thirty nine points for
Brunton in that forty minutes, twelve assists, five rebounds, Mikal
Bridges with twenty three points, seven rebounds, Ojen Andobia Confley
the Towns both had over twenty as well. Jason Tatum
led Boston and scoring with forty two points, but did
(32:16):
suffer a non contact lower body injury. I mean, I'm
not a doctor, nor do I play with on the radio,
but we've all seen achilles injuries before Waiting for the
MRI to officially confirm it, but he did not return
to the game, and I'll.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Go ahead and spoil it for you.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Very very questionable for the remainder of this series, and
he's gonna have a long rehab ahead of them more
than likely. But a three to one series lead for
the New York Knicks as they look to advance to
the Eastern Conference Finals in the NHL. The end of
the first in im Sorry, earlier today, we saw the
Hurricanes beat the Capitals five to two, Carolina taking a
three to one series lead in that matchup. Games that
(32:52):
are going on right now. The Minnesota Timberwolves lead the
Golden State Warriors fourteen to twelve, Anthony Edwards with four points, Julius.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Randall with five.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
The Warriors only playing six players so far, but we
all are only you know, five minutes and thirty seconds
into the first quarter, so you know, they've been playing
everybody since Steff got hurt.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Right now, Draymond Green leading.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Them a scoring with five points, and Vegas and Golden
I'm sorry, the Edmonton Oilers rather leading Vegas two to
nothing at the end of the first period there and
at the top of the ninth ending the Astros have
come back a little bit, but the Royals still lead
seven to five. Top of the fourth inning of the
Padres that lead the Angels three to two, Mariners two
Yankees one top of the fourth inning, and on FS
(33:35):
one the Diamondbacks lead the Giants one to nothing in
the bottom of the fourth inning.
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win over the Celtics. Jason Tatum's in injury coming up
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Speaker 6 (35:29):
The second pick will be made by the San Antonio Spurs,
and that means that the number one pick in the
twenty twenty five NBA Draft goes to the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Rolando Blackman, all smiles, four time All Stars celebrating, But
Dallas Mavericks had a one point eight percent chance to
win the number one pick overall in next month's draft.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
They had never won the lottery. TNT on the call
on it your play of the day, Hey day, this
is Jim. I think the new Pope sucks. He was
supposed to bring us Cooper flag and he didn't. I
think he's overrated. We got to get rid of him.
At least we don't have a pope from Green Bay,
so there's that going on. But this guy was supposed
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he was supposed to beat the chosen One. I'm going
all the way back there. Really disappointing attack of the
Clones movie. But he was supposed to be the chosen one,
and he couldn't even bring us left. Three days after
the guy becomes pope, we couldn't even get the number
one pick in the draft. He's overrated. I'll hang up
and listen. Didn't even advance a single slot, I mean
just twelfth overall. I'm the guy from Chicago. Yet you
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lean into your exaggerated lunacy what you want to say
about the pope. But I'm telling the Pope when the
lightning takes you, takes you out. Look. I had an
issue walking around the ballpark Friday, man, the number of
people selling bootleg boat merch. It's like, I appreciate, I
appreciate the hustle, but at the same point, I'm like
(37:03):
feeling a bit uneasy an pop stuff again. You know
what I mean? What game you sent me pictures you
took with like five people dressed as the only one
guy is the Pope God? It on by the people
that guys cardinals, bishops? What were they? Some bishops he
brought his back. No gear, some archbishops. I asked, Pope
gear No, not gear, No, come on, I wanted the
(37:25):
Vatican City connect Jersey, come on that those were not
for sale. Uh, did not quite get to that level. Again,
the Pope let you down. The Pope let you that.
At least we didn't get the Spurs winning again, which
I think the NBA everybody would have quit if somehow
the Spurs will tell you what though, that was the
one that was Uh. I was half expecting in all
(37:45):
of this.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
You know wemby Uh with the illness and missing the
end of the year. You see Castle wins Rookie of
the year they bring in dearon Fox, it was all right,
it's set up, and then it's like, oh, they've got
the second pick. But once again, we've got the draft
law and this what yesterday was the fortieth anniversary of
the Frozen envelope?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
And you go all the way down, Lebron leaves Cleveland.
What happens the next year? Tada, here, here's your number
one pick. Anthony Davis gets dealt to Los Angeles. What happens, Ah,
the Pelicans get the number one Luca gets traded into
the Los Angeles. So Lebron, you shut the hell up
with your laughing, crying emojis unless you're just giving us
the nod in the wink as to what the reality
(38:26):
is with the third eye. So what we actually have
Nico Harrison's reaction to the number one pick in the
draft going to the Mavericks, now that we know Cooper
Flagg is the player to be named later in the
Luca Danta trad. Yeah, it's good. So we have we
have Nico Harrison's reaction. Go ahead, Frostburg, let's hear it.
I have the smartest man alive.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
So is it?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Does everybody revisit the trade. Now, I really just say, hey,
Nico Win, I expected him to walk across the stage
middle fingers up, yes, yeah, he just starts dancing along.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
That thing that shows up on your Twitter timeline where
you got like the six guys in a row and
that one guy comes to the front and they start
dancing across the basketball court, That's kind of what Nico
Harrison in the moment now I had to do. And
now it's fine, But look, I want to say this
because while while you were enjoying beers in the pulp
at your game on Friday, yeah, a couple of times,
(39:20):
we did this a lot on the show. So I'm
going back to it. It's on Twitter. I said, Look,
I don't know anything. I know nothing of nothing, but
knowing how the NBA needs to take advantage of big
time superstars when they come in the league. You just
watch Zion come into the league, and it's been a disaster,
sticking with New Orleans saying you can't stay healthy, can't
stay on the court. It's been a disaster. He was
(39:41):
the last generational player to come on the court where
we said okay, he's up. He failed Wemby We're hoping
right he had a bit, you know, missing, Hopefully he
can get back soon and play. And everyone's got prayers
up for Wemby. But I said on Friday, I said, listen,
I don't care what the odds are. The Mavericks, the
six or the Bulls are coming out of this lottery
(40:02):
with the number one picking Cooper Flag. I don't care.
I'm not saying. I'm just saying, tell me the odds.
Like Bill Maher says, I don't know it for a fact,
I just know it to be true. There's no way
one of those teams isn't coming out of the draft
lottery with the number one picking Cooper Flag and a
generational talent, the third generational talent in the left eight
(40:22):
years is gonna start his career with a heritage team
and a big market that's really good, not gonna have
however you want to say it. I told it didn't
matter the odds. I told you one of those three
teams is gonna get him. Tnah, Cooper Flag is gonna
be a Maverick three Hall of Famers, with the aforementioned
Anthony Davis already installed there. Whatever Kyrie's health is, as
(40:45):
you get going. But you know the generational guy, and
I did that story about the estimated loss in revenues
for the Mavericks. Gee, wonder what just fixed all of that?
What was it? Seven hundred eight undred million dollars. Welcome
Cooper Flagg exit out by the Fresca exit, swollen dome,
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look where it went. We get back into the biggest
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome inside, Happy Monday. Is it really yes? It is.
I got a lot of crap going on right now, Harmon.
I got a lot of stuff happening right now. Got
the Hurricanes, I shepherded them do a three to one lead.
I got the Mets in the ninth inning, tied with
the Pirates, the I got the course the Knicks up
(00:51):
by nine with three minutes left to go. I'm dealing
with a lot of stuff right now. I'm looking bulldorm.
We gotta get a what a live rooster to take
the curse off of Hector's glove. We're dealing with, dealing
with a lot of I've got a lot of stuff
going on right now. Yeah, I can see you're completely
amped up. We watched the end of that Stanley Cup
playoff game Fantastic. You called for the public flogging uh
(01:13):
and release of Francisco Lindor, get rid of indoor and
and acun you get rememberoth Erison the Ninth and the Gamber.
You went on a five minute rant, not ten minutes
prior telling me he's the greatest thing of all time.
He was bored and it doesn't matter that yet too.
Piter Alonzo is gonna win this game with a walk
(01:34):
off sack fly Mets get the w Okay, I'm two
thirds of the way there. I'm not just halfway there
with bon Jovi, I got the Hurricanes, I got the Mets.
Now I got shot him? Hey shot a man, I
got you got a steal and don't I'm in a
nine point lead, and Jason Datum laying in a heap
shot May with a lot of shots of Al Horford
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right now, the Knicks with a one thirteen, one oh
four lead over the Celtics with three minutes to go
(02:18):
in the fourth quarter. Look, I don't want to go
too crazy because I know somehow this game is gonna
be tied with a minute left. Okay, I'm not gonna
go to I know that's what's gonna Somehow the Knick
Celtics is gonna be tied with a minute left to go. Okay,
I'm okay with that. But let me just say this,
for the the it's been kind of a thing the
last few days. You have seen, oh the NBA is
(02:38):
unwatchable crowd come out again with a lot of different things. Right,
all the NBA is unwatchable. The NBA's on watchmap. Uh,
this game tonight, and there's gonna be a big update
we're gonna bring you with Jason Tatum coming up in
a second. All you have to do is watch this
Beaches that all you have to do is just watch.
This is the Tatum Brunson game. Right and now, Jason
(02:59):
Tatum just got hurt for the second time in the
second half, twisted his ankle. He was helped off the floor.
I assume that is going to be it. We're not
gonna see him again the rest of the night. But
this game, up until this point, this has been Tatum,
bruntson Tatum Brett. Anything you can do, I can do better.
Every time Brunton hits a shot, you go, my goodness,
I can't believe it. Tatum comes down the other way
(03:20):
and it's a three. Look. The guy can get his
shot more than anybody else in the NBA can get
his own shot at any situation. It has been amazing
to watch these two guys duel this entire game. The
Celtics hit all a bunch of threes, it was looked
like it was gonna be a runaway. Then Jalen Brunson
brings the Knicks back in the third quarter, when it
looks like they're gonna run away, Tatum starts hitting shots,
(03:42):
getting into the lane. Really, it has been some kind
of Brunts and Tatum show. But now the rest of
this game is gonna be played without Jason Tatum. Huge
first quarter where you see the barrage towards the end
and it became in all right, here we go game three.
Look once again, but bit by bit as you lay
out with Jalen Bronson. But he didn't come alone, right.
(04:02):
He brought friends to the show this time around, as
opposed to making it a one on one conversation. This
is like the fight between the news teams in Anchorman,
where more guys come to the party. Right, Because Bridges
has twenty three, you got twenty one from Cat eighteen
from Ananobi, including a number of huge defensive plays, and
(04:24):
that's the thing that's got to be under you know,
underscored here in the fourth quarter, filling passing lanes, aggressive
with each possession, no easy buckets except for the one
that literally, as I say, no easy buckets. But all that,
just the attempts to pass it across the court, up
around the arc, just the length of Ananobi and the
(04:48):
other defenders, just wreaking havoc, causing so many turnovers and
just failed possessions where it's now the scramble with the
shot clock winding down to get something up towards the buckets.
So overall, just a fantastic effort the second half by
the Knicks, really controlling things as we get down the stretch,
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Go New York, Go New York. Frostburg drive driving that bandwagon.
It is a ten point lead for the Knicks with
just under two minutes left to go in the fourth quarter. Right, well,
we plenty of time for Brunson. However, we got it
till we have a little bit more on Jason Tatum
right now, he has helped off the court, as we said,
an ankle injury on a turnover. H Ogano Noby has
(05:31):
had a terrific game. He has stepped in the passing
lane many times for the Knicks uh turnovers in the
second half. He had one turn one turnover early in
the fourth quarter where Jalen Brown had to tackle him
from behind because he jumped in the passing lane and
got and got the ball for a layup. But what
just happened a couple of minutes ago, and this is
where things are a little scary. Jason Tatum has the ball,
(05:53):
the Knicks have a have a nine point lead, and
Tatum looks like he's going to you know, he's got
the ball on the wing, right, and he comes he
has the ball on the wing and he passes out
and it looks like he's waiting to get the ball back.
And here's the play by play of what happened after.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Its Jaylen Brown back he lost the ball. Adob oh
By himself throws it down and Titum is heart. Tartum
is down. He wants a time out. Titum is so
much pain. Sus call time out there? It does Mike
(06:32):
Breen with the call right there. Uh, this is how
it looks. He's chump coming to get the ball back.
Jalen Brown looks like he's gonna give it back to
Jason Tatum and hw Nobe steps in the passing lane
and he picks off the ball and goes down the
other way. Tatum just simply steps forward to try to
get and grab the ball first and his right leg
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he just collapses. It's a non contact injury. He takes
a step back with his right foot to try to
get down, to try to come back and get the ball,
and then he just collapsed. He was helped off the floor.
He is in pain.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
He was just shown coming off in a wheelchair with
his hands covering his face. We don't know what kind
of injury this is. Certainly you see this and look
just because of injuries we've seen. It could be an
achilles injury. It could be an ankle injury. But he
doesn't turn his ankle it's a straight step back, which
tells me you've seen this for achilles or a calf injury.
(07:30):
So it does look like it wasn't like I don't
know that it's so much an ankle injury as much
as it could be a calf or an achilles non
contact injury. He simply tries to plant and step forward
and he can't, couldn't put any weight on it. As
he was helped off the floor and again in a wheelchair,
taken off with his hand on. He got a big
round of applause from the from the Knicks players and
(07:53):
the Celtics players as they came off again. A non
contact injury for Jason Tatum. And suddenly this throws the
rest of the play off, the rest of the playoffs
for the Celtics in flux. They're gonna lose this game.
They're gonna go down three to one to the Knicks.
And now it's is Jason Tatum going to play again?
When is he gonna be able to get back? Because
you have the non contact grabbing at his achilles that
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none of this looks good for Tatum and the Celtics.
Number of your internet doctors, all folks that I have
not verified their CVS, but we'll take them at face
value for the moment, with their histories and check marks
and everything else, going straight to the Achilles right several
with the tag of hope the video lies because you
(08:37):
and I as we watch it go down as he
comes to challenge anonomy for the ball just goes down
in a heap, and immediately he's screaming and he's in
a heap, down on the floor, and the play goes
on and immediately would you have five staffers get out there?
No pressure on his leg as he comes off anguish.
(09:00):
So just a horrid end to I mean, he'd been
fantastic all night long. Every time Brunson or Ananobi or
Cat made a shot at one end, he was at
the other to keep the pressure on. Get got up
what forty two points I think was the last as
we saw him hitting three after three, and then a
(09:23):
play that had been so problematic for him just from
an execution standpoint becomes their worst nightmare. One of the
game stars and a guy who's much debated in terms
of his rank in the hierarchy of the current NBA
goes down. Hopefully, hopefully the video does lie in this regard.
I mean, look, there's three things you look for right
(09:46):
in plays where where you say, okay, how bad is
this injury? Non contact is always the worst, right, that's
always the worst. But a non contact could always be
something where you turn an ankle, it's a tweak and
you come back, but non contact the worst, no pressure
on it coming off when you know we can't do that,
and there's there's no there is no twist where it
(10:06):
could just be an ankle tweak of some kind where
oh oh, maybe he'll be okay. Maybe it's just something
where it's the end of the game and we're not
gonna do it. We're gonna let him just sit back
and and uh and and come off the floor. There
was none of that. I mean, it was just it
was a straight back, I'm putting my like I'm putting
my back foot down to plant and then just falls
(10:27):
right down. There was no step like almost as if
like you stub your toe kind of thing where he
just goes into the ground as like, okay, not a
lot of twisting, but maybe maybe just enough pressure there
for the momentary, but no quite obviously something far worse.
Look and and this is this is what happens in
the NBA as as we look at this season, right,
(10:49):
we talk about injuries, and injuries affect the NBA playoffs
more than any other playoff, more than more, more than
the NFL, more than Major League Baseball because superstars are
not as ironclad as they used to be. And when
the first round happened in the playoffs, what did I say?
I probably stupid because I put this out in there.
I said, Hey, usually we see an all star team
(11:09):
of guys injured missing games by now at that point, right,
and all of a sudden, it's okay, it's it's it's
it's not And Willard was more of a you know,
a medical condition than it was an injury. It's like, hey,
is he okay with his you know he? And right
after that but you're to okay, can he come back?
Can he play? But now you're and this is why
when the NBA playoffs, when the NBA playoffs hit, it
(11:29):
doesn't matter how great you were during the regular season.
It makes no difference if you're dominant, because if someone
comes down on an ankle wrong, if someone comes down
on the floor wrong, all of a sudden, everything changes, Right,
Who are the three best teams in the NBA this
season Cavaliers, Celtics, and the Thunder, and all of them
are in trouble. All of them are in trouble. The
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Celtics are in a three to one hole. The Knicks
win at one twenty one, one thirteen. The Cavaliers are
in a three to one hole. Now you don't know
is Jason Tatum gonna play again? Is are you gonna
have Donovan Mitchell right for Game five here when you
need them? And clearly the Thunder have all they could
handle with the Denver Nuggets in the second round of
the playoffs. These are the three best teams in the
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regular season and now it's the door is wide open
to win a championship. This is no matter how it looks,
no matter how great a team looks, these things happen.
You can't and you can't bank on injuries. But obviously
that's been a part of the NBA the last few years,
the last five seven years. It's you see all kinds
of big injuries, and they happen. It's not just support
play as well. We're missing our six man. We're missing no,
(12:33):
you're missing superstars. We're missing games, game after game after game. Well,
what's a by the time, it was a joke that
it was the second season, not because of u the
attrition this way, but just when we're looking at three
months of television covers, hah, it's almost as long as
the actual season itself. But now it's the how do
you manage to get to the end of March, first
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week of April in as best a rotation as game
Because that's the thing that comes out of this game too, Jason,
is the fact that both starting lineups just traded blows
the entire time. Like my Anchorman analogy isn't too far off. Now,
Prichard ends up with twelve points, so it becomes a
nineteen point bench effort. But for the longest time you're
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looking at fourteen to ten was the margin and the
usage of these benches. Shorten the rotations and get every
minute you can out of your starters, and with that
you're gonna welcome in court trouble at times. And unfortunately
it showed up in the worst of ways in this one.
So we'll keep you updated on that. Let you know
(13:37):
when to hear something about Jason Tatum. I assume we're
not going to get anything official tonight. While we'll hear
postgame from the teams, but the Knicks Jalen Brunson throwing
towels all over the court. The Knicks are up three
to one. Go New York, Go New York, Go go
New York, go New Yeah it's a super milew what
are you doing?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Hey, games still happened, the guys, The game still happened.
The games. Let it breathe them minute crying out. Man,
we just spent the entire last twelve minutes on Jason
Tatum hoping he's okay, hoping he's all right, you know,
going through everything we be. Now you're dancing over the top.
So I'm just saying, not just saying. I can say,
go New York, go New York. I could do it.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Celtics lost again.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
How it's got Yes, the Celtics lost again. Wow, Nicks
are up three to one. Look at this nixt THU
right again? What did I go back when I said
a week ago Nick Pacers Eastern Conference Finals? Yeah no, no,
oh wait a minute, wait a minute, Jason might really
be right about that. It could really happen, could really happen.
Uh So we got more NBA on the way again,
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only in the first game of the night. We got
the big second game coming up in a little bit,
uh but straight ahead, big stuff out of the NFL.
Or were already seen Shdur Sanders win the quarterback job
in Cleveland. All that and more coming up next, Jason
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Not even this song is gonna upset me tonight. Not
even this song.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know what what what getting swept by the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Uh, I'll worry about that later. I got the Nixon win,
I got the metsa win, your the Hurricanes of win
like this is. This is a deer of my life
right now. In Sports Mike Garmin Show Fox Sports Training,
I we're setting Jason home go elated to go do
something else great with his night since he's three and
oh in the Sport of Universe, We'll update you on
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the Jason Tatum injury as soon as we hear more.
Tatum leaving the end of the Celtics loss to the
next to night Nick's now up three to one in
their series with the defending champs. Tatum goes down with
a non contact injury. Looks to the achilles area he
tried to plant to go after a loose ball. It
doesn't happen, ties to different part of the body. No,
(17:34):
I'm saying goodbye to Derek Carr. Oh well yeah, well
we will get to that. He's definitely broke. Yeah, he
had a good run. Tatum goes down again. Non contact
injury was not an ankle twist. He put no pressure
on his foot as he as he was helped off
the court. Very emotional hand over his face as he
was taken out in a wheelchair. Again, does not look
(17:55):
good for Tatum. Keep our best thoughts out there for
one of the best players in the NBA, and as
soon as we get an update on it, we will
bring it to you. Uh time out to talk little
NFL big stuff happening today. We screw the Cowboys day
joining us now on the hot line. Longtime NFL insider
check them out on Odyssey, Washington Post one A five
seven The fan in Baltimore, Jason locking for it, Jay,
(18:16):
what's happening man? How are you?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I'm doing okay? How are you guys?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Good?
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Thanks?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I got the nixt one, the Mets one, the Hurricanes.
W I'm feeling feel pretty good right now. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
The Hurricanes thing. Is that just hitting the capitals or
is that? Are you?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Are you like an old Hartford Oh well, Yamino Whalers fan? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So that's me right now. Like what I got? I
got the Midas touch right now. I got to hope
he keeps going as long as it can. I don't
know how long it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So is that Jerry Jones singing brass bonanza? So excited
to watch the Eagles get their rings and race the
championship banner opening night as that game was announced today.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Well, look, that's the closest they're going to get to
anything like that, probably as long as he owns the team.
So they should. They should get to play the Super
Bowl winner in Week one every year, you know, like
we've got the Hall of Fame game and Ken Yeah,
we've got certain we've got certain sports traditions and things,
you know, forever, right the mL first MLB game of
(19:18):
the year would be in Cincinnati. Uh, we've obviously got
the traditions with Dallas and Detroit ball and Thanksgiving. Yeah,
I mean, I you know, that's that's as good it's
going to get for Jerry. So did you jump in
at they're going to get their asses kicked? I will
be betting that game probably in the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I was going to say, whatever the market that.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Yeah, it's kind of it's kind to only expand over time. Yeah,
good good luck Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So this also would get us into the futures market.
I think a little bit, mister locking Ford, because you
got a bunch of backloaded games for the Bears, So
that would mean they expect the Bears to be good.
Uh like what I was getting the Cowboy he's here
means short them.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, well in general, I just you know, I'm telling
you guys forever right, Yeah, they made the Cowboys. Uh yeah,
I mean we'll get the full picture of this, my god,
in dribs and drives over the next forty eight hours,
and it's going to make me want to pat myself
in the eyes with a fork every time somebody's reporting
on an NFL FO that we already knew were going
(20:26):
to be played. We just didn't know when or where.
Well we knew where, we used to know when. Yeah.
I will certainly digest the schedule and it will and
impact some of some of my wagering, although I don't
think it's going to change my power rankings exponentially. But yeah,
(20:46):
I will wade back into the futures market when we
have a full catalog, because make no mistake, there will
be teams who get screwed. I mean there will be
teams who have four and five game stretches that just
look kind of very incongruous to the norm, and depending
on the caliber of the roster and the caliber the
head coach, sort of their institutional strength or lack thereofs.
(21:10):
I mean, those are things that can beckon, you know, crack.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Teams in half Jay, You know what one gift I
think we're getting right now that none of us expected,
but we're getting it is apparently the quarterback competition in
Cleveland has begun, like the last three are Hey, Gabriel
and Shador Sanders. Who looks better? Like this is the
earliest I could ever remember getting like real legitimate updates
(21:34):
of who looks good, who's ahead of who, Like this
is a gift for us right now. It's May and
we're already in a quarterback derby.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well, I mean it is going to be interesting once
they you know these OTAs how they divide up the
reps and Placo's been number four and he's going to
start week one, and I guess he needs the least.
But you know, the team has changed the fair amount
since he left there and I fired you know, his
offensive coordinator and play college is he was too damn
(22:03):
good with him, you know, so we had to get
him out of there because Deshaun's coming back, and that's
going to make the Shawn uncomfortable. You know, if this
guy's called, you better callim plasure for Flacco than him
or whatever. The nonsensical thought process of the owner was
to get Flacco out of the building in the first place. Yeah,
it's going to be the breakless reporting that we usually
(22:24):
only get in training camp and every day which guy
gets his reps first and seemingly going to be a
thing and who gets the most and by what margin.
I just again, there's only so many to go around,
and they've got sort of a weird pecking order there,
and at some point due you know, does somebody get
(22:46):
hurt somewhere else, and then you know they send a
kid from Pittsburgh there just to sort of clear out
a little more space. I don't know, but Kevin's de
fancy is going to be dealing with, Yeah, your point
of level of sort of intro league and reporting to
what is pretty sort of yearsly drama free and this
(23:07):
uninteresting sort of practices. Yeah, it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Now talking about one quarterback competition to a guy who
ran on a posed like a congressman in a small
district somewhere h for eleven years. Derek Carr, how will
you remember his career?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
I'm not a big Derek Carr guy. I just have
to kind of I mean, I kind of feel like
he one really good year with the Raiders and it
kind of propelled him to great fortunes for like another decade.
And he may have done that with delv Like did
he do it with Dell Rey? I feel like he
did it with the staff where it was like I
felt like I had to him a lot of credit
(23:47):
that season, but I think he got, you know, as
much mileage out of that one season as anyone could
have ever expected. And the contract that the Saints gave him,
I don't know what you know, Mickey Loomis, what else
he had going on in his life at the time
where he decided that was what they should do, you know,
(24:07):
post Drew Brees, with all the other bad contracts they
already had on their books, like that one will always
sort of boggle my mind. But yeah, I don't, I'm
just not. I don't know. The way he played the
game always felt like he had opportunities to make way
more plays than he did, And I kind of always
felt like when he got in the red zone and
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there was any sort of expectations on his teams, bad
things tended to happen.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Throw it out the back of the end zone and
it wasn't. Jack del Real led sore back in twenty fifteen,
he and Muskrat when he.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Had his year where he was like, yeah, yeah, right, Muskra.
I mean, I just remember I knew a lot of
guys in that staff, and I was like, Wow, this
guy looks like this guy with that cast and that
coaching staff doing this like he must be pretty damn good.
And then that was a.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Pinnacle Jason locking for an NFL inside whether it's Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Orts radio studios. All right,
So now that this happened, right, obviously he had the
Saints having it. They could go in with Schuck maybe
wanting to win the job or trying to push him
up there. But we're still waiting to find out Aaron Rodgers'
decision with the Steelers. Has the quarterback market changed in
the last forty eight hours as far as destinations or
(25:16):
potential trades with Derek Carr's.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Retirement, I don't think so, because I mean, Derek Carr's
situation was really murky to begin with, and it did
not look like he really wanted to play for them
or that they really wanted him to play, and it
was clear he was going to need you know, this
other procedure or whatever. So no, I don't, I don't
think so. I think New Orleans, I mean New England.
(25:40):
New Orleans is going to go I think with what
they have, and I think that's going to prove to
be pretty ugly. And this is going to be the
sort of not that he did. The last couple of
seasons haven't been bad, but I think this is going
to be the really kicky in the teeth here, And
can they shed some of these contracts by the deadline?
Like I could see New Orleans being a full blown
(26:01):
tank mode trying to get themselves a quarterback at the
very top of the draft next year.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four. That is
at Jason Locke and four Odyssey one oh five seven
the Fan in Baltimore Washington Post, where he's working on
one thousand words on the big Syracuse lacrosse comeback in
the first round against Harvard yesterday. Jay good luck with
that peace. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Now I'm not I'm running five thousand words from Kevin
Denenre You go.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
See you, buddy, Jason. You know the thing about Derek Carr, right,
because you know, thinking about this today, every quarterback leaves
a legacy when you play as long as he did.
Look a guy through for forty thousand yards and a
starting quarterback in the NFL for a decade, right, and
when you think about it, and sometimes the legacy is
a way you played. Sometimes the legacy is one moment
in time, and for Derek Carr, it's that one moment
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in time because he was never the same after his
injury in twenty eighteen or twenty sixteen, if you remember,
he comes out as a rookie, has a really good
year in twenty fourteen, and then has an MVP type
season in twenty fifteen. Twenty sixteen, the Raiders look like
they are on a collision course with the Patriots for
the AFC Championship. Right. The Raiders were fantastic. And this
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is you know, they were still in Oakland for another
four years, but this was when the Raiders looked like, hey,
we're back out again, you know, we've had our time
as a laughing stock. We have our quarterback. You know,
Carr was a second round pick and he really jumped
in right away and played really People forget how good
he was his first three years in the league. But
he gets hurt late the last game of the regular season,
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and the whole big It's broke line, which is what
you know, the line Tyshirt's been running since he said
that ten years ago, we've been running that on the show.
And he never made it back. He was never quite
the same after that. He was always after that. He
came back and he was okay, he was maybe a
little bit over league average, but he was never at
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the elite level that the that he was at his
first three years in the league. And when you think
about that, Okay, so the Raiders next level of competition,
of of of success never got there. But had that
not happened, you start to wonder, do they ever leave Oakland?
Maybe they get to the super Bowl that year, maybe
they beat the Patriots that year. They were really good
(28:22):
that year. The Raiders were really good in twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, and twenty sixteen they were one. I mean
I remember that year going this is gonna beat Raiders,
are gonna wind up playing them. The only team that
can beat the Patriots is the Raiders. So you wonder
after that, if they have that kind of success, if
Derek Carr doesn't get hurt and he's still that level
of quarterback, do they stay in Oakland? Does he finished
(28:44):
catching kind of career? Is he still you know, there
is their success keeping them in Oakland somehow? Like that
injury would you could look at it and say that
might have sealed the deal on their eventual move because
they never really competitive after that and car came back
and like I said, he was okay, he's really like
a twenty and ten quarterback from there on out right
he was a little bit over league average, And I
don't mean like not like you're talking about like maybe
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thirteen fourteen fifty that's kind of where he was, Whereas
he was a top seven, top eight quarterback his first
three years in the league. That injury, maybe they're still
in Oakland, Maybe the NFL changes, but that that really
was such a thing that affected so many layers of
the NFL. Ye'd have to go back and look at
the twenty seventeen twenty eighteen rosters, attrition and moves that
were made there, and because they were already going into
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operation shutdown with the anticipation of Las Vegas at that point.
Because he came back, it had a big year. Their
first year in Vegas. He was twenty seven to nine
on the year. That's a nice three to one ratio
to do the quick fuzzy math. But that's five years.
That's five years later. Hey okay, hey, good year.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Funny.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
But that's the point is this was a guy that
was based on that early promise. He got that door
opened for a long time, as mister lockinfora alluded to
right where you just kept waiting for him to be
that guy, but situational football was not as friend right
forty two thousand yards. But we'll always remember him for
throwing the ball out of the back of the end
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zone or even with few mistakes nine interceptions, you know,
miss misplayed balls and you know quarterback rating saving moves
and things of that nature that that go on down
to which made him and his family fight everybody in
the Twitter verse and online for the last half decade.
(30:26):
Right and then he had a couple of years where
the football gods came back on him and and he
pressed and didn't have the arm strength to get it there.
But you go back to the year that you're alluding to,
the the MVP year. I mean, that was a year
that was just so uncanny because we're talking about attrition
in these NBA playoffs and we watch it through the
(30:47):
you know, just scores of guys that go down over
the course of an NFL season. That Raiders team was extraordinarily.
It was like every guy had a rabbit's foot in
his cleat until that play, right, They didn't miss any time,
like they were healthy on both sides of the ball,
and then all of a sudden, in one faithful play,
you know, maybe the fortunes changed. I still say they
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would have ended up in Vegas because the pot of
gold was too big at the end of the rainbow,
exit out bout a Fresca exit, swollen Dome. Jason Smith
Mike Carmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. More
NFL on the way. But right now, Martin White's gonna
tell you what's trending in the wide world of sports.
Nothing bigger than the next three to one lead Mit
Shoe over the Boston Celtics. Yeah, go New York Go,
(31:31):
New York Go, and swearing get Piston.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Sure you know, I told him, though I did tell
Jason earlier today. I was rooting for the NIXT today
and in this postseason. I'm I'm ready for Boston to
to go off into the sunset.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
They haven't even been there that long. That's fine. I
don't want the Nerds to win everything the Knicks do.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Everybody complains about we're all things twenty years ago that
people clapped and championed.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I like the fact that they play a lot of minutes.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Jalen Brunson, on that note, forty minutes tonight he was
McHale Bridges had forty four but thirty nine points for
Brunton in that forty minutes, twelve assists, five rebounds, Mikal
Bridges with twenty three points, seven rebounds, Ojen Andobia Confley
the Towns both had over twenty as well. Jason Tatum
led Boston and scoring with forty two points, but did
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suffer a non contact lower body injury. I mean, I'm
not a doctor, nor do I play with on the radio,
but we've all seen achilles injuries before Waiting for the
MRI to officially confirm it, but he did not return
to the game, and I'll.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Go ahead and spoil it for you.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Very very questionable for the remainder of this series, and
he's gonna have a long rehab ahead of them more
than likely. But a three to one series lead for
the New York Knicks as they look to advance to
the Eastern Conference Finals in the NHL. The end of
the first in im Sorry, earlier today, we saw the
Hurricanes beat the Capitals five to two, Carolina taking a
three to one series lead in that matchup. Games that
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are going on right now. The Minnesota Timberwolves lead the
Golden State Warriors fourteen to twelve, Anthony Edwards with four points, Julius.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Randall with five.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
The Warriors only playing six players so far, but we
all are only you know, five minutes and thirty seconds
into the first quarter, so you know, they've been playing
everybody since Steff got hurt.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Right now, Draymond Green leading.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Them a scoring with five points, and Vegas and Golden
I'm sorry, the Edmonton Oilers rather leading Vegas two to
nothing at the end of the first period there and
at the top of the ninth ending the Astros have
come back a little bit, but the Royals still lead
seven to five. Top of the fourth inning of the
Padres that lead the Angels three to two, Mariners two
Yankees one top of the fourth inning, and on FS
(33:35):
one the Diamondbacks lead the Giants one to nothing in
the bottom of the fourth inning.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
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Speaker 6 (35:29):
The second pick will be made by the San Antonio Spurs,
and that means that the number one pick in the
twenty twenty five NBA Draft goes to the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Rolando Blackman, all smiles, four time All Stars celebrating, But
Dallas Mavericks had a one point eight percent chance to
win the number one pick overall in next month's draft.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
They had never won the lottery. TNT on the call
on it your play of the day, Hey day, this
is Jim. I think the new Pope sucks. He was
supposed to bring us Cooper flag and he didn't. I
think he's overrated. We got to get rid of him.
At least we don't have a pope from Green Bay,
so there's that going on. But this guy was supposed
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he was supposed to beat the chosen One. I'm going
all the way back there. Really disappointing attack of the
Clones movie. But he was supposed to be the chosen one,
and he couldn't even bring us left. Three days after
the guy becomes pope, we couldn't even get the number
one pick in the draft. He's overrated. I'll hang up
and listen. Didn't even advance a single slot, I mean
just twelfth overall. I'm the guy from Chicago. Yet you
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lean into your exaggerated lunacy what you want to say
about the pope. But I'm telling the Pope when the
lightning takes you, takes you out. Look. I had an
issue walking around the ballpark Friday, man, the number of
people selling bootleg boat merch. It's like, I appreciate, I
appreciate the hustle, but at the same point, I'm like
(37:03):
feeling a bit uneasy an pop stuff again. You know
what I mean? What game you sent me pictures you
took with like five people dressed as the only one
guy is the Pope God? It on by the people
that guys cardinals, bishops? What were they? Some bishops he
brought his back. No gear, some archbishops. I asked, Pope
gear No, not gear, No, come on, I wanted the
(37:25):
Vatican City connect Jersey, come on that those were not
for sale. Uh, did not quite get to that level. Again,
the Pope let you down. The Pope let you that.
At least we didn't get the Spurs winning again, which
I think the NBA everybody would have quit if somehow
the Spurs will tell you what though, that was the
one that was Uh. I was half expecting in all
(37:45):
of this.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
You know wemby Uh with the illness and missing the
end of the year. You see Castle wins Rookie of
the year they bring in dearon Fox, it was all right,
it's set up, and then it's like, oh, they've got
the second pick. But once again, we've got the draft
law and this what yesterday was the fortieth anniversary of
the Frozen envelope?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
And you go all the way down, Lebron leaves Cleveland.
What happens the next year? Tada, here, here's your number
one pick. Anthony Davis gets dealt to Los Angeles. What happens, Ah,
the Pelicans get the number one Luca gets traded into
the Los Angeles. So Lebron, you shut the hell up
with your laughing, crying emojis unless you're just giving us
the nod in the wink as to what the reality
(38:26):
is with the third eye. So what we actually have
Nico Harrison's reaction to the number one pick in the
draft going to the Mavericks, now that we know Cooper
Flagg is the player to be named later in the
Luca Danta trad. Yeah, it's good. So we have we
have Nico Harrison's reaction. Go ahead, Frostburg, let's hear it.
I have the smartest man alive.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
So is it?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Does everybody revisit the trade. Now, I really just say, hey,
Nico Win, I expected him to walk across the stage
middle fingers up, yes, yeah, he just starts dancing along.
Speaker 7 (38:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
That thing that shows up on your Twitter timeline where
you got like the six guys in a row and
that one guy comes to the front and they start
dancing across the basketball court, That's kind of what Nico
Harrison in the moment now I had to do. And
now it's fine, But look, I want to say this
because while while you were enjoying beers in the pulp
at your game on Friday, yeah, a couple of times,
(39:20):
we did this a lot on the show. So I'm
going back to it. It's on Twitter. I said, Look,
I don't know anything. I know nothing of nothing, but
knowing how the NBA needs to take advantage of big
time superstars when they come in the league. You just
watch Zion come into the league, and it's been a disaster,
sticking with New Orleans saying you can't stay healthy, can't
stay on the court. It's been a disaster. He was
(39:41):
the last generational player to come on the court where
we said okay, he's up. He failed Wemby We're hoping
right he had a bit, you know, missing, Hopefully he
can get back soon and play. And everyone's got prayers
up for Wemby. But I said on Friday, I said, listen,
I don't care what the odds are. The Mavericks, the
six or the Bulls are coming out of this lottery
(40:02):
with the number one picking Cooper Flag. I don't care.
I'm not saying. I'm just saying, tell me the odds.
Like Bill Maher says, I don't know it for a fact,
I just know it to be true. There's no way
one of those teams isn't coming out of the draft
lottery with the number one picking Cooper Flag and a
generational talent, the third generational talent in the left eight
(40:22):
years is gonna start his career with a heritage team
and a big market that's really good, not gonna have
however you want to say it. I told it didn't
matter the odds. I told you one of those three
teams is gonna get him. Tnah, Cooper Flag is gonna
be a Maverick three Hall of Famers, with the aforementioned
Anthony Davis already installed there. Whatever Kyrie's health is, as
(40:45):
you get going. But you know the generational guy, and
I did that story about the estimated loss in revenues
for the Mavericks. Gee, wonder what just fixed all of that?
What was it? Seven hundred eight undred million dollars. Welcome
Cooper Flagg exit out by the Fresca exit, swollen dome,
(41:05):
Jason Smith, My Carmon. I'm not saying, I'm just saying,
look where it went. We get back into the biggest
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