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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon pay their respects to legendary KISS guitarist Ace Frehley who passed away earlier today at the age of 74.

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RelA three won the final in a three nothing series
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Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I have a big night to get too. We got
two games in Major League Baseball, Dodgers now one game
away from the World Series. The Blue Jays wanted to
people know, hey, hey, we're still alive here. Don't shovel
durning us yet. And of course Thursday night football second
half about to start in is the Bengals with a
seventeen to ten lead over the Steelers. But the Dodgers

(01:39):
win Game three, three to one, in another game in
which it was an incredibly well pitched game, Tyler Glass.
Now now they Dodgers eat a little bit more out
of their bullpen because Glass, I'll get into a little
bit of the sixth inning through about ninety nine pitches,
but you get what you need from trying in from banda.
Sasaki looks like he's back in the outing. He had
a couple of days ago in his rear view mirror.

(01:59):
And this is three incredible pitching performances by the Dodgers
in a row to move one game away from the
World Series. If you're a Milwaukee you are saying, right now,
what do you want us to do? We had just
run into a pitch, a starting pitching buzzsaw, which is
exactly what the Dodgers envisioned it to be when they
gave Blake Snell money, when they gave you a motto

(02:20):
three hundred million dollars, when they gave Tyler Glasnow one
hundred and seventy five million dollars. This is exactly what
they vision and vision. And I gotta say, Ah, the
Brewers need to X, Y and Z. What are you
gonna do? I mean, you have run into an absolute
pitching buzzsaw this round with the Dodgers. You just throw
your throw your hands up and say, Okay, maybe we'll
get back at it. Maybe we'll get some run. Maybe

(02:40):
we'll get a run, maybe we'll get two runs. Maybe
that'll be enough.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
But what are you gonna do? You can't it's nothing.
They've done nothing they could that this. Sometimes you just
run into a team that is just absolutely white hot.
It's not like the Dodgs are hitting, but they're hitting enough,
and they're pitching. I'm gonna tell you what this reminds
me of in a couple of minutes, which is a
little a little nerve racking for the Dogs.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
But they're right nerve wracking right now. They're feeling pretty good.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, there is there is nothing going wrong right now.
This is an unbelievable onslaught of pitching from the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
In the end, and Pat Murphy, I'm sure he'll be
complaining about salaries and caps and I'm just a humble
manager here.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I have no thoughts on you. You had the best
record in baseball. You had what do you mean we
have the best record in base fight.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
You've always got his cry about the disparity in pay
you one ninety seven games.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
They don't know our names.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
And blah blah, blah, blah blah. Here's the thing we
talked about it coming into the series. You only have
two guys that could qualify on the current metrics as
quasi thumpers like you didn't have a forty home run guy.
You have two guys over twenty eight home runs, which
meant it was about generating runs. Get them on, get
them over, get him in stolen base. Uh was one

(03:51):
of the big weapons in the arsenal all year long. Well,
when you only account for four hits and the control
has been fantastic all three pitchers. You look at Glass
now today another eight strikeout performance. You're not getting on base,
You're not even giving yourself a chance to be gnats,
to be annoying. And that's the tail of the tape, right.

(04:11):
You can't manufacture a run without getting on, which goes
back to Terra and how different it all is if
he just leans in right, knowing that every run was
gonna be at a premium because their pitching was great.
Misrowski's so much fun to watch when he's on and
healthy and ready to go. Maybe not for Dodger fans,
but they got that run early, and that's it. You

(04:33):
never look back, right, you get the one to one,
you finally get the lead, and you make it hold
up Sasaki clean and easy, thirteen pitch ninth inning, eight
strikes strikes out of that. So, I mean he was
ready to go, So all of its reset and you're
in a really good position because you didn't have to
tax any of these guys really hard and throw a
lot of pitches, and you go into Game four with

(04:55):
the commanding three to zero lead. Now we see what
Otani can do in the pitching side.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Now here's the thing you tell about, And this is
this is one thing that I feel like I'm I'm
kind of done with after today because it really didn't
make sense. Right. We'll get to the Dodgers in a second.
But you watched the Brewers decide, and this has become
a real thing in vogue the last four or five years,
is to have openers and have different pitching plans. Instead

(05:19):
of here's my starting pitcher out there, we're going to
pitching plans, and by and large they work. Right. I
think the record of teams that go with bullpen games
or openers are like a ten and five or something
like that when they've gotten decisions over the course of
the past five years in the playoffs. So it works
to it, it works to affright, I get it. But
here's what I don't get right, And I didn't get

(05:40):
this today watching the game. So obviously, Miserowski's coming in
and he's gonna be he's gonna be great. Right, He's
gonna come in and and the Brewers expect him to
come in after the first inning and pitch however long
you need to. Right now, obviously he was ready to
come in the first inning because he did come. He
had to, right, the Dodgers get a run and Miserowski
limits the damage, which is which is great, and then

(06:00):
he's great over the course next four or five innings.
So here's what I don't get. If miss around, if
he's ready to come in that early, right, he's ready
to come in, and he's gonna come in after the
first inning anyway, why is he not starting the game,
Because what the flip side is gonna be is, well,
we have an opener. However many pitches he goes, and
then we bring in our best guy, and then we

(06:22):
get an extra couple of innings because it's only a
couple of times through the order. And I'm like, okay,
well time out a second. You can always do that
on the back end. Right, If you want to start
Miserowski and he goes five six innings and hey, you
get to the order a third time, you can always
make the move to the reliever. Maybe you need to,
Maybe you don't, right, Maybe Miserowski is saw in bats
and you don't need to do it, right, But why

(06:42):
would you have a lesser pitcher pitch to the best
three hitters or best four hitters in a team's lineup
when clearly you are ready to go to a better
guy for a longer amount of time that's coming in.
That doesn't make sense. I mean, I get where you think, oh,
we can skate through the first inning and they're only
going to see him once and he's not. You know,

(07:02):
the odds are Baseball is a game of failure and
getting a run is a thing. But why would you
start somebody? Why would you and not have your best
pitcher that you're gonna pitch that day, pitch against the
best hitters on the other team. I don't understand that.
And this is where I think managers get so out
of control with the bullpen games and the openers and this.

(07:23):
It's like, dude, if you have a guy that's been
and miss Rowski has been really good in the playoffs, right,
he was great in regular season to start, then he
hit a lull a little bit, but you can see
the talent this guy, the way he is throwing. I
would want him out there the first couple times through
the order, and then if I have to make a change,
I'll make a change. This is we're planning on making

(07:43):
changes before we see how the game goes. When my
idea and the idea that I think this is why
I can be a major league manager is Okay, let's
start the game with our best idea and we'll adjust
as the game goes, right, Okay, Misroowski doesn't have it
all right, we take him out, we go to somebody
else and X, Y and Z and that, But I'm
gonna go to him him. I want him to face
the best the best hitters in the lineup. I don't
want him to come in afterco well then then two

(08:05):
more times through the lineup. Okay, yeah, but you don't
know how the game is going to go the rest
of the way. You know what's gonna happen. All you've
done is I'm not putting him up against the best
three four hitters in the lineup and the Dodgers, and
what happened. They were chasing run already after the first time.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
That's it, right, Ashby starts and he had already been
seen twice in this series, like he's pitched in every game.
And I get it to a degree, right, the old
oh and playing the percentages Simpson with two lefties in
their first four hitters.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
However, nine home runs.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Today, however, Otani leads off with the triple Mookie Bets doubles.
It just like that, you're behind and the only last
sixteen pitches only gets one out before you go to Miserowski,
who was fantastic until fantastic, well until the shadows went
away until yeah, right, but he still really un You're
running in the shadow big deal, you're running the shadows

(08:55):
of the He's not shadow proof.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
No he's not. No, no, no, no, no, he's not
the shadow Man.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
That's all in five innings, pitched three hits, one a
and run and nine strikeouts. I think you'll sign up
for that.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, but I okay, you start the game and all
of a sudden it's bang bang, Oh you're losing, and
now we're going to him, like, what do you do? Like,
sometimes managers get too cute, they get too involved in
a plan and not as much as Okay, you gotta
have a feel for the game and how it goes.
And what you're doing is you're saying, this is our plan.
We're gonna do this, this and this before we even

(09:26):
see what happens in the game. Well guess what. When
the game starts, different things happen, and it's about how
you adjust. I would rather adjust to boy Miserowski giving
up a triple in a double. Okay, now we got
adjust because he clearly doesn't have it tonight. Because if
he didn't have it, then when you go to him
the second inning, then you go into a third pitcher
because if he doesn't have it, to take him out
even earlier. So now you're another pitcher down if Missowski

(09:47):
doesn't have it. So I've like managed, they just get
too cute and too caught up with a whole strategy
of oh, we're gonna do this and this, because I'm
the smartest manager in the world and I know of it.
Ashby again, who now the team has seen a couple
of times, gonna go in the first inning and we're
gonna hope to escape. By We're gonna hope to escape
and get out of the first inning. Otani's not been
swinging the bat. Well, maybe we can get through here.

(10:07):
And then hey, we're feeling good because then we got
Mizerowski through the lineup the next two times. In theory,
but everything changes when the game begins, and that's the
whole thing. And this is this is all you know,
managers who I don't know if because they feel like
they don't have as much impact on the game as
it used to because many front offices make all the moves.
But you gotta have that feel during a game as
to what you got to adjust during the game. You

(10:29):
can only go in with so much of a plan
to say, we want to do X, Y and Z.
What are you gonna do when it doesn't happen? Okay,
well now you go. Now you go to your best
pitcher and it's great, but you're chasing because you decided, oh,
we're gonna have some crazy strategy where we don't have
our best guy pitching against the best guys in the lineup.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
But but it dies together and that you're you're chasing
one run. And guess what's really been hard in this
series for you? Scoring runs?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, you're right on that one. I'm so smart. You're not.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
You're not jetting it ru you got any Barry Bonds
battle armor sitting around that you can you know, give
a guy to stand and lean in to get get
a runner on base. Because you're you're having continually terrible
at bats. So every run has been magnified. It's not
like the Dodgers are doing a conga line around the
bases here. No, they had a couple of solo home runs.

(11:21):
It's fine, right, I mean, it was never in doubt ball.
But they've they've scored a total of ten runs in
three games.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
You've scored three.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, right, so every one of those moves gets magnified
on a whole other level.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
And chasing down one.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Oh guess what, you haven't gotten graded bats, But now
you know that runs are at a premium. Guess what,
the bats get that much worse. It's just human nature.
They start chasing and pressing. And that's what you saw
as this game wore on. Glasow could have pitched himself
into a couple of bad situations. Guess what, they bailed
them out every time with a bad swing.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean really, it's uh. You have to understand that
when the gate like the mold Mike Tyson thing, everybody's
got a strategy till they get punched the mouth. Sometimes
you don't get punching them out to the fourth round.
Maybe you don't get punch in the mouth at all.
Sometimes the first punch is getting punch in the mouth.
And oh, what we gotta do here?

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Because the check so clear, that's the coding question going
through your.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Living You got punched them out. And the fact that
Missowski comes in with runner at second and nobody yet
bang bang bang, I have a pretty I have a
pretty I feel pretty good saying that. I think he
would have kept them off the board in the first inning.
I think he would have kept them off the board
in the first inning just throwing one hundred one oh
two is that I think he would have been.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Okay, how many kids do you think showed up with
Murphy in the post man? Bring a bunch of guys
out to La. No, this is like a like a
like a like an all extended family. It's it's like
my kids, my my siblings, kids, their kids. So since
we're going home tomorrow, let me introduce you my extending Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, La is a lot closer to can Kun.
Milwaukee is from everybody. Yeah, because if you're leaving right
from here after the game, after Game four, you just
got bat flying right out. You just get what it is.
All right, guys, great season. I know we're packing up.
Everybody's going. You guys are going back. We're you know what,
we'll get together in a week. We'll have our end

(13:12):
of season meetings. But hey, great job, great job. Let's go.
We gotta get there. I'll see on that zoom call.
Gotta get there. He wearing the Jellies tonight. He was
on his phone. You can see he's on like Expedia
looking for about for the flights. Hey, I get that
flight tonight. It can leave, but I kind of have
to stay for game four though. If I leave, no,

(13:34):
I'll stay for one more game. All right, I'll stay
for Skie game four. But now now you need you
need kids. You need adult children, like you know, the
kids are like in their sixteen, seventeen, twenty twenty five
years old. You everybody there, if you're Pat.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Murphy full range, well got long. I've been teaching.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Even even just for even even kids of your friends. Hey, listen,
I need more, any more kids here? I need more.
I mean, this is bad. We're down threes. If I
need five kids on one side of me, five kids
on the other.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
He turns to the youngest one. It goes, this is
my game fourth starter. I mean because the disparity in payroll.
I mean, this is all I got.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I gotta look like John and Kate plus eight like
on steroids. I need that. Man. I need Brady Bunch
times too. That's what I need. You're going back in rewind.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
I mean, we just commemorated eighteen years of Kardashian I need,
but I mean, how long is you can?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I get the octomom with all her kids here and
sit in front of me, show them. Wow, you're getting everybody.
That's everybody all right now? Ask me whatever question you
want to ask me about openers. Look at all these
kids here that are hearing every word you say.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
We just mentioned all three of the biggest reality stars.
Is that took us down? That portal to Hell?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Exit? About a Fresca exit? Swollen down? The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon Pobo coming up next. Yeah,
I'm gonna remember an absolute legend. What the big gun
worry about the Dodgers is going forward? And what do
we have happening right now in the NFL? Keep it

(14:56):
right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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(15:23):
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Don't listen to the show so it can get camp.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
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Speaker 5 (15:30):
Hit him, Paulie, Ignore that fool.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
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Speaker 5 (15:37):
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(16:04):
what's going on Thursday Night football, major League Baseball in
a minute. But obviously look the big stunning news today.
Ace Freeley, Kiss lead guitarist, dies at the age of
seventy four, succumbed to a brain bleed. That he had
a fall in the studio a few weeks ago. We
talked about this the other day, you and I that
he had to postpone a bunch of gigs because there

(16:26):
was an accident he had, but he was gonna get
back out hopefully in the next.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah, they'd already scheduled some stuff for you know, late
February early March of twenty six.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Man TMZ had the story today hospitalized with a brain bleed.
It did not look good. And then we get news
late this afternoon. Ace Freeley dies at the age of
seventy four. And you know the thing about this, since
it's a sad story, because Freeley's one of the more
more love guys in rock and roll history, had a
great sense of humor. Everybody liked talking to him. It's

(16:57):
it's in times like this, like I always I feel
good about rock and roll in general because, like I
get to talk to people who don't know what Ace
Freely and Kiss was. I mean, Killer Kiss is one
of the most iconic bands rock bands of all time.
And you have some kind of no matter how old
you are, you have some kind of working knowledge of Kiss. Sure,

(17:18):
but I got to tell you this and this is
this is what I told Tysher because he was like
Ace Friel, he didn't really know Kiss, And I just said,
you know how big Taylor Swift is right now, right, okay, biggest,
biggest recording star in the world, right all this stuff,
Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift is the junior varsity
compared to what Kiss was at the height of their
popularity in the seventies and early eighties. That's bold, but

(17:40):
I like it. And this is this is back problem,
but mainly because hey, you go back when when Kiss
had the makeup on. Obviously they all have the different masks,
and obviously you know Ace Freeley was spaceman and the
overall interest in Kiss was it dwarfed. What what people
think about tailors Swipt Now great, It's a different time frame,
a different landscape back then, with less music, less things

(18:03):
to do. But Kiss, like I try to tell people
they were there was such a popular I couldn't even
they had movies. They were in movies, they had Each
of the members of the band did a solo album.
The drummer Peter Chris did a solo WILB, but also
had a big song right like this song back in
the New York group, which I listened to at least
two or three times a week more during the baseball season,

(18:25):
the biggest song of any of the Kiss members coming
off of their solo albums. Who had Ace Freeley on
that he was the guitarist, not the singer. I remember
when they were on Hollywood Squares. They had the big
square that went all the way out to the side.
There was four of them. They were in movies Kiss
Meets The Phantom of the Park. Like there was nothing
bigger music wise for a good seven to ten year
stretch than Kiss. They were dangerous. I remember being scared

(18:47):
of them because I was just young enough to get
to get Kiss in the songs and love Gun and
rock and roll night, and here they are with all
this makeup on, and like, I'm scared of Geene Simmons.
He's a guy that bites, the bites, the bloodbags in
his mouth and it comes in. The blood comes all
the way down his face. I was scared of Kiss,
but I couldn't stop listening to their music, and I
wanted to get Kiss double platinum for Christmas so bad.

(19:08):
It was the only thing I put on my list, Like,
I don't think people understand it. Show up under the tree,
how big?

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I did get double Okay, oh yeah, like just how
big Kiss was. Like I remember Tarantino saying this, Hey,
you know when when pulp fiction came out and and
here's John Travolta getting his second career and people were
kind of seeing him for the first time. I remember
him saying, Hey, Tom Cruise had his heyday and this
is Tom Cruise, few good men and top gun everything else.
Tom Cruise couldn't touch how popular John Travolta was in

(19:34):
his heyday late seventies, early eighties, right. I remember him
saying that, like twenty five thirty years ago, and I
feel the same, like, no one understand all the how
popular is people are right now. No one understands just
how popular Kiss was and how big a deal they
were in the rocks and in the music scene. Like
I remember when they didn't have when they because all
they did was where uh face paint? Right, they had

(19:55):
all the different masks on and the face paint, and
there was like millions of dollars from all these different
pop arazzi that said, if you could get the first
picture of a member of Kiss without their their paint on,
you know, with without the with without and it's like, WHOA,
what are we gonna do? Can I get a picture
of them without the makeup on? Okay? I remember one

(20:15):
guy actually got a picture of Gene Simmons who was
dating Chaer, but nobody knew what he looked like, and
it never got published. I remember Gene Simmons doing an
interview saying, a guy's got it somewhere. He took a
picture of me and Cherry just kind of popped out boom,
and I'm like, well, that's that's the game right there.
They're all going to see us without makeup on and
and and I don't know what's gonna happen. And now
we got to figure out the next phase of our career.
But nobody knew it was him. No one knew. I

(20:38):
was like, okay, I don't know it was this guy,
so okay. So they it kept going and no one
knew what they looked like till they finally took there
the makeup off in the mid eighties, and that was
a big deal when they came out and they were
still doing great music and I mean ace freely, I
mean this this band was the way rock and roll
is now. There's so many things you can say were
birthed because of Kiss. All right, people are just seeing

(20:58):
Kiss now, going to see fall Guy. I was made
for loving you as used in the right. The big
the big hard rock metal band Ghost now most popular
band in that genre. They all wear masks. We were
joking about our hole models. Yeah, I mean yeah, oh
the spaceman. Ah you kiss my Anthea. I mean the
the the impact Kisses had on the world of music

(21:19):
in general. It can't even be quantified with where it
is right with performance and music and and and being
able to capture that mystery and Ace Freely is the guitar,
you know at the head of all of this. You
know him and Paul Stanley, Jean Simmons, Peter Chris, Like,
these guys are all incredible icons.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah, I mean you go back and the one thing
I always appreciated and loved and you've you've mocked me
for a decade plus of like, all right, how do
you make money off it? Like, how do you how
do you promote? Nobody were better self promoters than these guys, right,
they put their label on frigging everything you get for
a while. You can go to Costco and buy a
casket not to be you know, uh An dour As.

(21:56):
We're talking about the passing of one of their members.
But legitimately between the movies, I mean, it was playing
You and my daughter, the one movie that she's bought
for streaming that she watches every couple of weeks is
kiss hanging out with Scooby Doo. Now that doesn't make
a lot of sense to a couple of those songs,
probably not belong but hey, Scooby Doo jump past Hey,

(22:18):
it's first seven and eight year olds, long long ago.
So here you have it, and that one has done
very well. One of my favorite quotes, and just kind
of going through some of the articles, there was a
clip with Tom Snyder that was really making the rounds.
That was kind of funny, but it was there. It
came from a magazine from two thousand and nine. I'm

(22:40):
an anomaly. I'm an unschooled musician. I don't know how
to read music, but I'm one of the most famous
guitar players in the world. So no figure a nice
life lesson, right, if we want to take something from
all of this, because you know, Simmons has talked about
it for decades of you know, we're not the most
technically sound of bands, but people enjoy it. We rock

(23:03):
in front of hundreds of thousands of people when you
do some of those festivals.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
But for Ace.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Freely, yeah, just a long career, always beloved. I mean
the outpouring of emotion across the rock world, even when
it was still in the balance and hadn't been confirmed.
Like everybody started telling these tales going all the way
back forty fifty years Geddy Lee, right, I and Life
Center getting ready to go on a tour together long

(23:29):
after what a decade after Neil Peart passed away. Like
one of the first things he said is like they
gave us a start. It was a picture from nineteen
seventy four of them hanging out and talking about you know,
backstage and playing cards and just being stupid as a kid,
but being welcomed into rock and roll by these guys.
And that's one of their biggest pieces of their legacy,

(23:51):
was how they opened the door for a lot of
other bands.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, it's just I mean, really, you see this today,
I'm like, wow, it's a huge era of conic music
and personality. And you just think about their impact and
it's it's it mushrooms. It kind of crushes, like, wow,
this is the impact this band has had.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
But the Tom Snyder clip by reference, I'll retweet it
out at Swollendom was funny because the rest of the
band's pissed, like he asked the question about their look
and how they got you know, who decided on the
costumes whatever, and Ace Freeley just starts talking and the
camera pans back and you see the rest of the
band kind of looking like the hell are you the game?

(24:30):
You're now the spokesman, So wait a minute, that's fun.
I'm only the lead singer. Come on, Just like normally,
I guess he would he would sit back and Jean
and Paul would do all the time, and he's like, nope,
this one's fine.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Oh rest in peace, space man fly brave. Meanwhile, happening
right now, we got the Bengals on top of the
Steelers twenty to seventeen late in the third quarter of
more in that game coming up in a few minutes.
But it's all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows of the Dodgers
right now. Look, they're they're a hot knife through butter
through the Brewers. And like I said, you just throw
your Okay, what are you gonna do? We shrugged, right,

(25:03):
We're just the Dodgers are just throwing bebies at us.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
They're standing out with like their their cleats, begging you
for money. We need another pitcher.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
However, I do have it going on to the World Series, right,
I do have one concern because of the team the
Dodgers remind me of, right now, Okay, And and look,
we talk a lot about when you play so well
in one series, you get a bounce into the next series. Right,
And the Dodgers are throwing the ball unlike any team

(25:35):
we've seen in the last fifteen years of Major League
Baseball as a team, right, whether it's Snell or Yamamoto
or Glass now tonight, even though relievers are good, right,
that's how good. Even the relievers who stink are all good. Right,
that's how big. So I see the Dodgers getting a
bit of a bounce pitching wise in the next round
of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
We also talked about defense being a thing for the Dodgers, right, Hey,
I gotta make sure, but clearly this round it's not.
And frostbur is gonna hate me for saying this. You
have a chance to not do it then, but no,
But I got I got you have. I gotta be me.
I gotta say that the Dodgers. You want to sing
that out loud, I gotta be Remember this is gonna
come back to bite you, and that your mic. The Dodgers.

(26:19):
The Dodgers right now remind remind me a lot of
the twenty fifteen Mets who did the same exact thing
to the Cubs in the NLCS. Harvey cinder Guard matts
to Gram and they get to the World's end, it's like, well, hey,
we're gonna we're gonna crush the Royals because look at
the Look at how we threw against the Cubs in

(26:40):
that round of the playoffs. It was fantastic. But what
happened in the World Series. They didn't quite pitch as well,
they didn't quite play as good defense, and the Royals
won the World Series because the Royals made contact, hit
ground balls, and the Royals won the bleeping World Series.
That's kind of what the Dodgers remind me of here,
because they're gonna get a bounce in the next round.
Pitching wise, I can't see how you continue to keep

(27:01):
this up the entire way, not to this level. Not
they can't still pitch well, but like this, when you're
winning three to one, it's not like, hey, you're pitching well,
you're winning seven to one, eight one. No, you're squeaking
out two to one, three to one games. So that's
the one thing. If I can look at anything from
the Dodgers, they remind me the twenty fifteen Mets who
looked like we're getting to the World Series, and I'm like, nah,
I'm ordering all my Mets World Series. We're gonna win.

(27:23):
And then I'm like, oh, man, the first batter of
the World Series sess but just drops a fly ball
the warning track, right, Like that's like the kind of
series it was. That's the only thing that concerns me
about the Dodgers's. Boy, I can see the defense and
I can see the bounce of pitching happening in the World.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Series, so I should of being able to take in
extended bats for both the Blue Jays and the Mariners.
That's gonna be a hallmark of what we see going forward.
How do you get those starters on the horse and
back out of the game?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Right?

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Not going six to seven innings at a spot and
Glass now gave them a big effort. A guy who
much maligned over the course of the season, right for
early exits and some eccentricities, I think would be the
way to put it. But yeah, it's it's curious, and
I think for this game, the fact that you started

(28:13):
and again seeing Ashby for the third time certainly helped.
But you get the triple for Sho Hao Toni right
off the jump. And Mookie Betts, who, by the way,
you want to talk about your your fielding, you want
to talk about all all of those things in terms
of fundamentals. He's a Gold Glove finalist, all him somehow
Freddy Freeman is not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Freddy Freeman
who should get it just for the one play at

(28:35):
the end of the game that he made, you know,
saving toddyem in a really, really bad error. He needs
to get the Golden Glove just for that. So you know,
to talk amongst yourselves won't bring that back up as
this rolls on. And good for Mookie Bets, that's fantastic,
But it's that, you know, dialed up and right now
once again the Dodgers pulling all the proper strings, just

(28:56):
as they did a year ago.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Does it always make sense? Hell no, But here we
are exit out about a Fresco exit swollen down the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike harmon time
gow to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports. From someone who came in tonight wearing kiss makeup.
It's Monty Belanos.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
You know I should have is what I should have done?
That I would have loved to.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
You should have done the cat like Peter Cris. You
could have done the Spaceman like La could have had
the Star.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
I think I was for the Star. I think I
would have gone with the Star. Okay, all right, bets you, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Star was always a cool one.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
It was.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
It was.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
I mean, they're all, they're all awesome, but I think
I would have gone.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
With the Star and the ones I was. I was
never scared of Peter Chris because he was like a cat,
and I was like, oh, it's a kiddy, It's okay.
Paul Stanley was okay with the Star. Was fine. Jean
Simmons was.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
Simmons right away.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Stanley was free. I mean, there's a lot going on there.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
There's a lot going on, and there's a lot going
on in Cincinnati between the Bengals and the Steelers. Here here, guys,
to kick off Week seven of the enna, Joe Flacco
has thrown for two hundred and thirty two yards in
two touchdowns. Bengals are up right now twenty to seventeen.
They're about to start the fourth quarter. Also, Bengals are
knocking on the door. It's third and goal.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
They're on Pittsburgh five yard line, so they may extend
their lead.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
Right now.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
Aaron Rodgers has thrown for one hundred and forty two
yards two touchdowns. He also has two interceptions so far
in this one. Let's move on to the other old
man playing tonight, Max Scherzer.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
They officially have taken him off the mound. He pitched
five and two thirds innings. He gave up five hits
or three.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
Hits, excuse me, one earned run, four walks, five strikeouts.
They try to take him out halfway through like the
fifth inning, and he said no, and he stood his
ground and he got out of it, and they even
sent him out for the sixth inning.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
But it seems like they just took him out.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Blue Jays are up though, five to one against the
Mariners in this game four of the ALCS, where Seattle
leads the series two to one. As you guys were
just talking about, the Dodgers defeated the Brewers three one.
They are now one went away from advancing to the
World Series. Jackson Cheerio by the Way, who did the
game in the middle of an app bad because of
a right leg injury. He already said that he's gonna

(31:05):
play in Game four. He just had a cramp, so
that's why he took himself out.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
But other than that, Dodgers one went away from the
World Series.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
And then on the ice, Bruins and Golden Knights tied
at one apiece late in the first period. Hurricanes over
the Ducks one zero, also late in the first just
like the Penguins and the Kings, with Kings up to zero.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of mon Yes,
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Lot from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Uh,
you are seeing right now exactly why Mike Tomlin did
not like the Joe Flacco trade. Why is he ripping Joe?
Why is he ripping the Browns trading joh I don't
know why you trade Joe Flacco. Yeah, you're seeing why
right now. Because he has helped birth a spark in

(31:45):
the Bengals offense. Again, He's over two hundred yards passing
a couple of touchdowns. We said it when it happened,
I said, this is a good fit. Flacco's a good fit.
For what the Bengals like to do. He's gonna get
the ball to their playmakers. It's gonna make Jamar Chase
is gonna really benefit from having this change in quarterback.
And so far Jamar Chase twelve catches, one hundred and
ten yards in a touchdown. It's even Chase Brown is

(32:06):
having a good game. Chase Brown.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Mike Harmon is having a couple of big runs, chunky yardage.
T Higgins found the end zone as well. Flaco in
his career at eleven and eleven against the Steelers, twenty
seven touchdowns against twelve picks and averaging about two hundred
and twenty nine passing yards per game.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome. The Jason
Smith Show with My best friend Mike Carmon Coming up next. Hey,
who's going to replace James Franklin at Penn State? Yeah?
Take a big candidate off the board after a huge
story today, that's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
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Speaker 1 (32:54):
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(33:16):
because I said last night, as the game goes on,
the offenses are gonna start opening up. It's gonna get
oiled as the time goes on. And here we are.
The over has officially hit forty three and a half.
These Steelers in the end zone. Aaron Rodgers throws a touchdown,
a big drive by Jalen Warren, getting them down close.
He throws a touchdown pass to cut the Bengals lead

(33:39):
to twenty seven to twenty four, still eleven minutes to
go in the fourth quarter. And and you know still now,
Mike Tomlin can sit back and just go I can't
believe they traded this guy to the Bengals. And I
gotta watch Joe Flatto throw for three hundred yards against us,
because you know that's what's happening. Well, he's a half.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yard from his over under from the yard thirty seven
ye chase already over one hundred, but fantastic drive there.
Jalen Warren's been great fourteen carries, one hundred and twenty
one yard. Didn't see that coming to that level of success.
Also thirty one yards receiving on four receptions, but quick strike,

(34:16):
no Hendrickson, So no pass rush means a lot of
dancing for Aaron Rodgers in the ability to break things down.
He had at least three pass attempts in the first half.
We had more than eight seconds to throw the ball,
eight seconds when normally he's the guy that has to
get it out.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Of two and a half seconds. Yeah, so plenty of
opportunity there.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Meanwhile, Vladimir Guerrero Junior homeward for the Blue Jays too
to extend there. It's his fifth home run in the
playoffs this year. How about that person dressed like a
wizard in the front row. Terrible effort to get that ball.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
And the guy that came to the game dressed like
a wizard didn't have his glove turned the right way,
didn't catch the home run ball. But I will say this,
if you come to a game dressed as a wizard.
Do you really expect him to have great glove work
if it's not Ozzie Smith. Okay, boy, Ozzie Smith was
the wizard, but he always dressed like a baseball player.
If you dress like a wizard out of baseball game,

(35:06):
I'm not expecting you to have great flashing of the
leather skill.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
I think I might be able to find a clip
of him with Tommy Lasorda as part of the Baseball
Bunch where he was actually dressed. No, not that, Oh okay, okay,
now I want to start blowing the harmonica. I know
it's kiss night, but I mean we could go back too.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Uh So, we'll have more from both games coming up
in about ten minutes. But look, a huge story out
of college football today, which should be good news, not
just for the guy who is getting this contract extension.
How happy were you? It's good news? Yes, I was happy.
It's good news for everybody that has a stake and
enjoys watching their college teams succeed. Regardless as to whether

(35:50):
or not you are at the top of the food chain,
close to the top of the food chain, middle of
the food chain, bottom of the food chain, Kurtzignetti, who
was the number one overwhelming choice to take over for
James Franklin at Penn State. Right, what he's done with
Indiana the last couple of years, had him in the
playoff last year. Honestly, they're probably better this year than

(36:12):
they were last year. Undefeated going into this weekend against
Michigan State. He was a guy, right, of course, you
gotta go to Penn State, signs an eight year, ninety
three million dollar contract extension to stay at Indiana. Now
he has said all along, I'm here, this is where
I want to be. I came here for a reason
all this time, right, So, yeah, and saying all the
right things, Well you said, but now obviously, hey, taking

(36:33):
advantage of this situation. Hey, guess what, guys, this is
when you got to get paid, right, You got to
take advantage strike when the iron's hot.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
But here's the best news for everybody is that in
this nil era Power five conferences doesn't matter if you're
in the middle, if you're at the top, if you're
at the bottom, you can loosen up per strings and
you are able to stay competitive or become even more

(37:01):
competitive as long as you can get the big alumni,
the big NIL conglomerates to loosen up the purse strings
and be okay with paying money, and they will do
it as long as they like the head coach. Right,
as long as it doesn't whether college basketball, college football,
you will be able to if you go to a
big power five school, Granted you have big graduates somewhere,

(37:23):
big alumni, you have a lot of money that can
give money because they want to see the football program
or the basketball program succeed. You can do it, but
they have to like what's going on, and they have
to like the coach because if they don't like the coach,
it's not going to happen. But you look at these
teams the last couple of years, these middle of the
pack teams that have risen up in stature, whether it's
Indiana now and now Indiana's got their guy because they

(37:44):
have money. They have a lot of famous grin I'm
sure Steve Alford gave a lot of money to keep
signetti there. Right. You look, we talk about Syracuse and
Duke in the acc that figured out the nil market
and how to get big players come. And people are
transferring from Notre Dame and Alabama and Texas and go
these places, and now many Daz is probably gonna get
mentioned to be the Penn State head coach because he
was there as a DC and is doing really good

(38:06):
things at Duke Former Sports Center, Pa many DS. But now,
you know, as long as as long as you have
a coach everybody likes, you can compete with everybody else, right,
And that's why all the top schools hate it. That's
why Alabama hates NIL. In Michigan and Ohio sid they
all hate it because they all have to pay a
lot more money for their guys. And also they know
that other teams are gonna get really good players because

(38:30):
just because we're Michigan, they're Indiana doesn't mean Indiana doesn't
have people that can give money to put them on
an equal playing field. That's why the top schools hate
nil and the middle schools now, hey, we can do
this and do it legally. This is what the best
part is about college football now is a guy like
Kurtzignetti can stay at Indiana and get ninety three million dollar. Yeah,
it's funny.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
We went through the odds for the Benn State coaching
job yesterday. He wasn't one of the leaders. He was
kind of and also ran because it was believed in
a large way that he probably would stay in Indiana
at least a little while longer and see smarter. So
Matt Rule, I think it pushed his percentages up over
the course of the day. Your guy, f fran Brown,
I'm sure to come on, man, don't take fran Brown.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Take manny Ds. He's great. I worked with them an ESPN.
I'll write a letter recommendation for him. Don't take Fran Brown.
But it becomes part of that equation.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Right, you talked about legally paying and certainly there's plenty
of athletic departments, coaching staffs, et cetera that you know,
like the old way when it was, if you're willing
to go out there and risk possible exposure of such
that the reward was great with some risk. But again

(39:41):
the toothless NCAA certainly helps you there. But when you
look at the landscape now, if your team wants to
get be involved, you can activate you decide. Right, you
look at Syracuse, you look at the Northwestern teams that
should have had a first mover advantages based on their
alumni base, and where you just need to make sure,

(40:01):
your coach wants to play the game right. You always
had to do it in the recruiting game anyway, but
it's now that on steroids like it is on a
whole other level of all right, what's the level of
administration and going through that process? And the teams and
organizations that have decided to really lean into that, they're
the winners.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
In this process. But players want to play right.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
So a guy getting six million will go somewhere else
instead of maybe, all right, we're gonna stash you a
bit for a little bit more money because y'all got
no proof of concept.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
If I have to do that exit, how about a
fresco at Swollen Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from
the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, we got
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