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It’s another Steelers pick, still no Shedeur Sanders. Jason and Mike with all the latest on Shedeur Sanders free fall.-And Jason explains why he absolutely loves the Jalen Milroe pick for the Seahawks!

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the meeting of Joe Douglas went at bout as well
as it could last night. He signed my Garrett Dya
Coke gave me a hug when I really thought he
was not going to give me a hug. I was
painting him to say no, it was okay. But that
went about as well as it could.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah, the hug was a little bit of a diversion
of what I thought was gonna happen, you know, a
nice hearty and Laurel handshake.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Well's something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
But you went into a really big dude, like he
was a real like when he stood up in the
studio and I was wild. You can see this video.
It's up on social media at Fox Sports Radio on Twitter.
I put it up as well at how about a Fresca,
Like when he stands up, I'm like, oh, he's not
just standing up, and he's like no, he's standing up,
and he's like eight inches to I'm five nine. He's
like eight inches taller, or at least he seemed like

(01:40):
he was that much taller. I'm like, oh, hey, Joe,
how you know, buddy fuddy larger than life personality and
effect and impact on your life, perhaps more so than
almost anybody non family.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Related in your life over the last decade. Joe Douglas.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
So you had that meeting in that moment.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I see. Here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Like Seger's nodding his head eager, like sometimes.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Sometimes my hang on that. Sometimes my dad can fall
down the list a little bit, like you know, it's okay.
I mean maybe Joe Douglas sometimes can be above him.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
You know, I used the term family like a lower
kse F and you can decide who slides in and out.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Jason, what do you got Frostburg?

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Joe Douglas may or may not be pressing charges against
you for that.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, what's the statute of limitations on such a thing?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
He's fine, he signed my diet Cope, he signed my
Garrett Wilson this now.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
But is he really well?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I mean, if I inserted him into an NYPD Blue
scene where he has to talk to Simone and simple
wins Man.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
How does that go.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I gotta see paperwork before I think that thing is real.
Come on, I just got that video game. I'm gonna
walk around. Someone's gonna go Because now I know from
watching TV so often, Like if I walk around in
a really attractive woman comes up to me and goes,
excuse me, Are you Jason Smith, I'm gonna say nope, nope,
because I know I'm gonna say would say, yeah, you've

(03:03):
been served, ah, because it works in the TV all
the time. Are you you, Harry Bosh? Yes, I you've
been served Harry Jason Smith.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Nope, not me.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
I really thought you were going to take a different
tact with the attractive woman coming up and saying.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Hey, are you Jason Smith?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
And then all this side we're talking about, you know,
evening rates and all this kind of stuff, and suddenly
you're in the Who's Gown.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I know things now to people, what are you ninety
years old? In the Who's Gow?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I celebrate all decades and I watch a lot of
TV and movies that span the years, just like our
very air, udite and knowledgeable audience.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Audience.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I saw Farley Granger War Movie and I wanted to
say I thought he was better than John Wayne.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Hey, I could speak up to the most elite intellectuals
of our audience, and boy, I can get down as
low as we need as well. My south side ease
is ready for a Friday Night.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
So where do we sit right now?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Round three of the NFL Draft in progress. And if
you told me any time before the draft began that
we'd be on the air on Friday night, on the
air Friday night, middle of the third round and Shadoor
Sanders would still.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Be on the board, I would have said, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Could I see him falling in the first round through
the first eight or nine picks?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Would I see him falling past like twenty or twenty one.
No way out of the first round. That's never gonna
happen out of the second round. Come on, man, I
know football. Yet here we are in the third round,
seventy seven picks have gone and still no Shadoor Sanders.
And if you're looking at where there could be a

(04:52):
landing spot for him later on in the third round,
the Steelers still pick again. But again the Steelers had picked,
they passed them by. The Saints pick again, they've passed
him by the Browns. I believe the Browns have had
seven selections so far in the first two and a
half rounds. They've passed him by every single time. So
in theory, there's three or four spots where you could

(05:13):
get him, but you could have got him before and
now you're not gonna get him.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
And Shador Sanders is still on the board.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
As stunned as I was that he dropped through the freak,
I thought that, really, I mean, so few things stunned
me long term in sports, because we've been doing this
for so long. Like I said, okay, falling through the fret,
no way, No, my god, he did, and I still
couldn't believe it. Going to bed last night. H'm like,
this is absolutely insane, Yet here we are. And the
big lesson that you're going to learn from this, the

(05:41):
big lesson coming out of the draft is that the
optics you put out there in the off season interviews
talking to teams, they matter teams. Now you know how
much swagger and confidence NFL teams are comfortable with in
a potential franchise quarterback because chadors But he's in every

(06:01):
mock draft near the top. No one's doing this as
a you know, look, I heard the Dan Patrick promo.
No one's doing this as a favorite of Dion Sanders,
putting in the top of the mocked Everybody wants to
be right right now. What would a mock drafter rather
be right on? Hey, I got your door Sanders in
the third round or I got it at the third
overall pick. No, they want to be right right. No
one's getting it wrong. Mel Kiper has been evaluating college

(06:22):
football players for forty years. Is he that wrong about
your door Sanders? No, it's not that wrong. The talent,
what he's put on tape, what's on the field is terrific.
You've heard a lot analysts say, listen, it's everything he
does on the field, he's good enough to have been
drafted by now. But again, there's only so much swagger
and confidence and out and out just just ego centric

(06:45):
behavior that teams are willing to put up with, because
that's really what you see. Look the guy at this
draft party last night with the words legendary in perfect time.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
All behind him, you know, on a wall.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Like he's I'm all ready to go, Like I got
my branding is already, I'm ready to go.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Ready to go.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
And what happens is you go in, you interview, and
you hear the stories. Yeah, worst interview I ever had,
and you haven't heard that he and you also heard
before that he had.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Bad interviews with teams.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
So you know, why what else can you draw other
than hey, what you put out there, we're not comfortable
with and for and and always have to remember. And
we talked about this a few nights ago. Congratulations to
that take that was everywhere today, and we talked about
the last two the last three nights. Really is that
it's a job interview. Just like you and I going

(07:30):
in for job interviews, you go in and put your
best foot forward. You don't go in and start talking
about Look, I'm gonna change this company the minute I
walk in here. Well really, yes, I yeah. This is
an entry level position, so yeah, I know. But I'm
gonna have your job in five years. And look, I
got ideas. Everywhere I've ever been, everywhere I've ever worked,
I've turned them around. I've turned that place around.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Sir.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
You worked at Blockbuster Video and a guess well you
actually you repaired tires in Goodyear for three days, actually
two days.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I quit. I didn't like that job, Which is that
that's me after college?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Uh? Yeah, no no, but I turn those places around.
When you think of a job interview, is that how
you go in? Is that how you go in and
meet teams? I get you want to be yourself and
you want to show that hey I'm confident and I
can win. But you want to put out the best
version of yourself. You want to put your best foot forward.
You don't do stuff like this during job interviews. You
don't do it when you're trying to meet somebody. If

(08:20):
I see a girl that I like, Wow, I really
like her, and if I go over to talk to her, go, hey,
you know what, drop the zero and get with the hero.
I'm not doing that because that's probably not a turn on,
all right, but that's me, but that's who I am. Yeah,
I get it. But put out the best version of
yourself because you can say this is who I am.
And that's great because you know yourself. But guess what,

(08:42):
all these other teams, all these other they don't know you.
They don't know and they would, okay, if we're gonna
go in and make you a franchise quarterback, because that's
what you are, we want to know that what comes
along with it we're gonna be okay with. We want
to know that we're walking into a situation where you're
gonna be coachable. You're gonna be able to be someone
that that takes direction, doesn't blame the offensive line if

(09:02):
you get sacked a bunch of times, which we saw.
We want to call some of your former coaches, but
the only coach you ever had is your dad. So
we're gonna call him and he's gonna tell us things
about you like this shows you how what the the
optic you put out there and the impression of the
personality is a really really big deal. And you can
stretch and push the boundaries to how much swagger and

(09:23):
that teams like and I think we saw that it's
somewhere between what Baker Mayfield showed when he came in
and where Johnny Manziel was and sh George Sanders is
like somewhere in the middle. Like, dude, you have to
go out there and it's a job interview. It's trying
to meet someone. It's putting that image out there that yes,
you can trust me being the face of a billion

(09:43):
dollar franchise. That's what people want to know. And it
was obvious, Hey, it's easy to get scared in the
NFL draft, and everybody's been scared of that because of that,
the optics and what you do personally matters so so much.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
All right, So he was plus one sixty five to
get out of the first round. That was pre you
know Goodell walking to the podium for the first time yesterday.
Our teammate Jeff Schwartz, he does the obviously former NFL
player and now does betting work on our Countdown show
on the weekend, he said he was trying to get

(10:16):
a bunch of money down because it was Hey, Chador
won't drafted in the second round.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
Was one hundred to one. Well, here we are.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
So it's that kind of thing where you're trying to
parsh through the noise. Now I feel bad. You know,
you got Kuyper and Klatt and so many others unless
you were really expecting to be invited to the next
birthday party or something.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I don't know what's good, what it is. They've all
feel like.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
It's a big personal affront to them. Rants and raves
about Shador. I don't know between the interviews what his
teammates had to say. I gotta imagine you had a
couple of offensive lineman that had some choice words for
him along the way. Right as you go into all
that deep background stuff. I'm not saying there's anything untoward

(11:05):
in criminal and whatever else is some have tried to
suggest and stuff. We talked about it last night. He's
never been coached by someone other than Dion. Maybe there's
a little bit of that. If we take the pie
chart and you start parsing away, then you were trying
to explain it at this point. I thought he did
enough to where you would have gotten a shot at
this point. Clearly thirty two war rooms disagree on many opportunities, right,

(11:32):
Schwetzinger walk on at UCLA to a top tackler. He's
their first pick in the second round, and everybody immediately
looks around, going, oh, here we go now as Robin Kelvin,
we're finishing up. The Jets made their selection and we
were really hoping that it was going to be Shador
there didn't do one thing, Aaron Glenn, I know the

(11:53):
Jets aren't going to take you to her Sanders because
he is not about what could be a circus.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
He's trying to create a culture. And if you know,
are we doing I just told you how much we
love Justin Fields and believe in them. Now we're telling them,
oh yeah, now do we don't?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
No, I it was just more for the funt of
the show, just getting on and watching you lose your
mind one way or another.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But no, I want Kyle McCord. I want Kyle. I
want day three, Kyle McCord. You know me. That's what
I know.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
I know, I know, buddy, it's still it's still out
there for you.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
But it's just the the idea with you trying to
parse through the noise and unless you're gonna get honest
answers from everybody with their names attached, you're never gonna
find out no exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
I think it's pretty easy. Look coming off the season,
where was Shador Sander's boy? Schador Sanders cam Ward one?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Two?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, but that's all I need, Okay, but tell me
to evaluate her me coming off what we saw in
the college football season, and talent evaluators are consistently evaluating
throughout the college football season. But what I'm saying, no, no, no,
But what I'm saying is the people in the war rooms,
they're not telling them, Hey, second.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Coming off the season, what was it?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
And this is from analyst and dress, Hey, not a
lot of daylight between cam Ward Shadoor Sanders. It could
go either way. These guys are both incredibly talented. When
do we start seeing Shador Sanders slide down draft picks
in the offseason when players are going out doing interviews,
talking to other teams, and we got the stories of
the combine that Shador Sanders didn't make a lot of friends,
didn't impress a lot of teams. That storyline continued, so

(13:24):
that's suddenly when he started dropping. It's not a he
doesn't go from having from being a guy that is
me basically indistinguishable from cam Ward too. Oh I never
had a first round grade. He wasn't that good to
begin with. Now that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen because
oh I went back and looked at the tape and
oh boy, I got it so wrong, Because what you're
saying is that they got they didn't just get it

(13:45):
wrong and say, well, here's Aaron Rodgers who we thought
was gonna go number one, but he slid the twenty four. Right,
this is a guy that's got coudbo number one and
number two and he's still on the board middle of
the third round. Like, guys don't get it that wrong, right,
they don't get it that there's wrong and there's a
margin of error, and there's getting it this wrong, and
guys don't get it this wrong.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Well, the last thing, really really quick, was that he
had all the opportunities to also go and work out
in front of folks, and he chose not to right
combine and everything else, could have gone and competed and
done all of that, and just said I don't need to.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
I don't know how well that goes over.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Telling me, man, the optics matter, what you do in
the office, what it matters. This is the He's the
shining example of Wow. I got to make sure I
make myself out to be an asset whoever's gonna draft me.
I can't just be hey, full steam ahead, I'm full
of myself. I mean, you can't do it. This is
the evidence. This is the evidence. And we're just getting started.
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Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well coming up next.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yes, we'll continue to keep you posted on when and
if Shador Sanders comes off the board in the third round.
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Speaker 3 (17:05):
Again, some of are gonna really surprise you.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
But boy, there have been so many great selections, especially
some under the radar in the first round and beyond.
But the Steelers were on the clock. This was gonna
be potentially where the slide for Shador Sanders was going
to end.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Was gonna be over. It's over, Johnny, It's going to end.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It was gonna end. Okay, the Steels, all right, they
made another move. They decided not, well, here is where
it's gonna end. This is where Shador Sanders comes off
the board. What a bargain he would be here in
the middle of the third round. The Steelers get a
quarterback because they absolutely need a quarterback. Did Shador Sanders
get taken? Let's take a listen to Lynn Swan, who

(17:50):
makes the selection for the Steelers, thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
With the any third pick in the twenty twenty five
NFL Draft. The Pittsburgh Steelers looking to be dominant once again.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
So lot Caleb Johnson running back Irewa. Now I do
want to say this.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I got to say something really good for the Steelers
before I just absolutely rip them to shreds. Lynn Swan
strong ring, game, strong ring. Lynn Swan is wearing every
one of his Super Bowl rings from the seventies and
early eighties, and they are gleaming like they Lynn Swan
looked like Fanos, Like look at when he when he

(18:38):
would put the when he would go on at list
that the gemstones in and he would turn around like
Lynn Swan's rings were.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
He was like Thanos without the glove. Ah, yes, all
of this.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Here's the super Bowl stone and here's the quarterbacks. Wait,
quarterbackstone is not working.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Hang on, hang on, but.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Look at these other stones, really really strong ring game
for Lynd Swan.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
I would say this every time one of those Steelers
from the seventh these gets up in front of a podium,
they should go on a forty five minute rant for
the respect they don't get about how great that team
was from Terry Bradshaw on down. Nobody gives them any
love outside of Pittsburgh on the grand scheme of it,
and those guys No No, and Lynn Swanna certainly among them.

(19:21):
So I love that he had the gauntlet on, oh.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
So strong and gleaming like I really wanted him to
show the rings that do the fanos, Like when he
closes his eyes, all the power that's running.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Starts shaking.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
So if the Steelers weren't looking to be dominant once again,
they probably would have taken sa door there right.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, I don't know that I would have said that
if I was.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
That's my favorite part of it.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Lynn Swat, I I don't know that I would have.
I really I don't know that I would have said that.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I really don't know, because here's the thing is that, honestly,
we've talked about the Steelers right at this point, you
need some kind of NFL intervention because it just looks
like with every passing day the NFL has passed Omar
Khan and Mike tomlin By. They continue to take the
most important position on the NFL field and turn it

(20:11):
into a necessary evil that we're gonna fill.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah. I'll take care of that at some point. Okay, okay,
that's great.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's like owning a house and you don't have a roof,
but you need a little bit of repair to the refrigerator,
and you need there's a little bit of a dry
rot in the corner of the living room and the
steels like, Hey, that dry rot.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
You let that expand.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Boy, that's a now progressive commercial. You let that dry
rot expand. That's gonna get all the way into the
rest of your wall. You want to take care of that, man. Yeah,
the refrigerator, Hey, refrigerator is not working.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
You're not.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You gotta take care of that. There's no roof on
top of the house. Eh No, I will get to that.
We got we got a real you know, I got
a really cheap guy coming in that can do roofs.
He's just gonna take a bunch of toilet paper, just
put a whole bunch. I mean, we're gonna get like
rolls levels of toilet paper, Like not just one level,
We're gonna have like six or seven levels of toilet
paper on that and that's gonna cover the house.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Like.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
This is what the steel are doing, the most important
position on the field, and they have decided, Yeah, last year,
we're gonna try to get by with bargain bin basement
guys because Mike Tomlin clearly his philosophy is I don't
need an elite quarterback to win. Look at how smart
I am, look at how we can win. So it's
justin fields and Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Did that work? No, okay?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So this is when normally the next year you go, okay, okay,
we took a chance, took a chance, get it all right,
We got to go the other direction. Now we got
to go out and make sure we get a quarterback.
There's guys out there to go get. Maybe we go
win on Sam Darnold. Maybe we try to trade for
Kirk Cousins. Maybe maybe maybe, And instead here they are
Aaron Rodgers is sitting out. He would be a Steeler
if he really wanted to be. So you know, he's
not coming. Okay, let's go into the draft and get

(21:41):
what we get. Anybody else in free agency. Nope, not
gonna get anybody. We're gonna bring back Mason Rudolph. Okay,
that's great. Okay, Now we're going to the NFL Draft.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
What do we need?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Most need a quarterback? Okay, what do we do the
first couple of picks? We have no quarterback? Like, I
don't know what their plan is. I don't know how
unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat. Unless
they have a seat plan that nobody else knows and
they're waiting to unveil it somehow. That's gonna involve them
getting Mahomes unless that happens, I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
The Steelers are doing. I mean, hey and me, I
don't care.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I feel like it's one less team I got to
compete with for the Super Bowl, right because the Steelers
everything else every year is pretty button down. Their defense
is always really good, they always run the football right,
their weapons are good enough. But hey, this is what
we're doing with the quarterbacks, there's great. Great, I'm glad.
I'm glad you're doing this. It's one less team I
have to worry about. But Honestly, this is such NFL malpractice.

(22:33):
It's the most important position and they decided, yeah, we'll
get to when we get to it. Like any other team,
they'd be the laughing stock of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
If this was the.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Jets or the Raiders or the Jets, or the Cardinals
or the Jets, everybody would be laughing. Or the Browns
or the Jets. Everybody's like, But the Steelers, Ah, Hey,
what are they gonna do? They gonna let no, No,
it's time to call it for what it is. This
is absolute mismanagement and I really don't get the Steelers philosophy.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Now here's a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
First off, I like that you you started Lynn Swann
with the Thanos comparison, because I.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
Have to ask, which Marvel Earth?

Speaker 4 (23:10):
You know?

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Are you creeping in in existence?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Because you're talking about not worrying about another team because
of their malfeasance.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
What the hell are you doing? That's what Hey, I'm
as a Jets fan better than you.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I'm thinking, what's been my mantra the off season? You jerk,
it's been dark horse playoff team. That's my mantra. That's
what I'm going. That's great and that's who I'm competing with.
Because a team at the Steelers that's good enough to
get in the playoffs and do nothing. Now they may
not even get in the playoffs. So okay, that's my
that's who I'm competing. Okay, that's what I'm not competing.
I'm not competing with the Eagles or the Bills. Come on, man,

(23:47):
I know.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Where I'm at. I just want to get in the
dance once. I haven't been to the dance.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Look again, Pope Francis became pope and died and never
saw the Jets make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Right, it's the longest.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Drought in North American sports making the playoffs. I just
want to get in the dance, man, that's all. I'm
not asking too much.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Well, because we like a little bit of dark humor.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
I mean, there's nothing better than the graphic coming up
the Cardinals pick is in as we await in conclave
and funeral proceedings, et cetera for the departed Pope. The
other thing, I mean, look for the Steelers in a vacuum.
You look at the picks that they've made. And I
love both guys. First guy, obviously, his surname is Harmon.

(24:26):
That's what the other I mean obviously, thoughts and love
and prayers to he and his family. Mom got to
hear the name, got to do all that, and and
passed away.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
I had had been in life support.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
So just a tragic story trying to find that silver
line lining that she got to see Derek drafted and
then the the Johnson pick. It's got an average six
yards of carry, durable running back. It's like it's a
great move right now, Agie Harris is gone. You team
him with Jalen Warren there and keeps your But yeah,
I still got the guy in the Riddler outfit running

(25:04):
running point as the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Who is it? Who is it? Is it Mason Rudolph
or is it something that we have? We have no idea.
Who's gonna be? Is it Aaron Rodgers? And it's all
just a.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
K fame WWE inspired work with all of this talking
that eventually he shows up when it matters. Hi, guys,
I'm here ready to work. Is it Kirk Cousins or
is there something behind door number three? I don't know
Sdor Sanders is still out there. He may still be
their guy. Before it's all said. None, Right, But it's
not just Shador Sanders. It's you need a quarterback, and

(25:37):
there's guys out there's Sanders, and there's Milrow and yours
and McCord and you need a quarterback and you're in
the third round. Yeah, but you've also decided you don't
think there's suddenly gonna be a run where all of
those guys that you may have bunched together are suddenly
gonna get drafted like fantasy draft.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Hey, it's the run on the Yeah, a run on
defense is started.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Okay, all right, exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
We need that third tier quarterback. But this is but
but this is also but here's the thing. This is
the quarterback position. Again the most important. This is now
where you go, hey, let's play the game a little
bit and I'll get my quarterback here. No, this is where, hey,
we gotta get a quarterback. Let's get the guy here.
Because yeah, it's sort of important, like if you wanted
to say, hey, I really like you know, we need it.

(26:23):
We need a we need a safety. But you know what,
for some reason, it's a huge safety draft. There's like
eight safeties that are interje Let's let's roll the dice
a little bit that one of the guys we like,
is gonna be there at safety in the fourth round. Right,
You do that with those positions, you don't do that
at quarterback.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
You know, try to try to get by a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And that's the Steelers are doing. And I look, I go,
what is going on here? I know, I really it's
twenty twenty five in the NFL and you win with
big playmakers at quarterback, and the Steelers are like, they're
just they're just sticking there, you know, drawing a line
going Nope, we're gonna try to win the way that
nobody else has won in the NFL since nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
We're gonna go back in do it that way.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Let me ask you this, though, Jason, when you go
when you start ranking the rest of these quarterbacks, and
I know you love McCord, how much does the taxidermy
shop that quinn Ewers lives in?

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Oh my, now that push him up the ladder.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I don't know what was more what was more impressive about?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Hey, this guy, this this guy is, uh, this guy,
this guy is really something. As far as you got
to watch out for the the Shador Sanders legendary. Uh,
you know, perfect timing, like that's pretty intimidating. The big
black and white images up there, or all the trophy
all the buck trophies on the wall behind quinn Ewart's family,
there was like ten of them, Like, oh my goodness,

(27:38):
what's going on?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
I think if if I were his family, I don't
have had some fun with it. Printed out a bunch
of mini jerseys of DB's. He was gonna cook that
just had him on the antlers. Let's say that Hamilton
on it. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
No, no, no, that's a little that's a little true Detect
too True Detective Season one for you.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Man, That's that'd be a little weird.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You'd hear, you'd hear goodbye horses in the background.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
I just like the way he's sitting there, arm over
the sofa, and behind him.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
You just have this dog nagerie.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well, I mean look there's that, and then there's Shucks dog,
which was amazing, right, I mean.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
His girl.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I mean come on, I mean, Chuck gets taken and
and it's and it's a big shock and everybody's jumping up,
and his dog jumps up and is so happy because
everybody is happy. He just wants to be in on
the celebration. Like that almost made me cry.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Right, that was so cool.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
And then when they interviewed him after, Yeah it's my dog,
I feelway said her name was Ruby or something. Yeah,
she likes it. She's excited. She's just sitting there in
the wide shot. Everything is cool, not worrying about her
barking or anything else. Just so excited where the paws
up in the air because everybody's jumping around and she
wants to be part of the excitement.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Like that was such a great moment.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Man, it's huge.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Right, a dog takes center stage here on night two
of the draft, just like a dog did five years ago.
Tonight was Bill Belichick's dog sitting at the computer ready
to make a selection.

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Speaker 6 (29:39):
The NFL Draft with rounds two and three tonight, and
no nobody is taking Colorado quarterback shaduor Sanders yet. And
by the way, we are on nearly pick number ninety
overall NFL network saying tonight that among the things the
Steelers aren't, Rooney told Steelers Nation Radio today on Aaron
Rodgers free agent core quote, he does want to come here,

(30:02):
so I do think we may get words soon end quote.
Steelers in the third round drafted a running back from Iowa,
Caleb Johnson. Cleveland's second round took running back from Ohio
State quin Shawn Judkins. Ohio State running back Travion Henderson
went to New England. New Orleans selected a quarterback in
round two, Tyler Shuck of Louisville. Among the other selections.

(30:23):
This evening, LSU tight end Mason Taylor to the New
York Jets. There is a Lakers at Minnesota playoff game
going on right now, the third of the three. On
tonight's schedule and dealing with the stomach bug is Luka Donci.
He's one of six, shooting just two points in the
first half, but mid second quarter, the Lakers lead thirty
nine thirty seven at Minnesota because Lebron James has sixteen

(30:47):
points seven of nine shooting early.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
See steez, wait now, I have a story here. I
need you to be able to tell me if it's
true or not. If you can confirm this that when
Luca ordered room service before the game, the guy that
brought up the food looked remarkably like Nico Harrison.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Can you confirm that story?

Speaker 6 (31:05):
No, but I believe it was someone who had worked
at a Sacramento hotel years ago.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Okay, that same guy? Make sure all right you Nico Harrison?

Speaker 1 (31:15):
No, where's Luke? I need to come on, where's Luca's room?
I got the food, give me the where where's the room?

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Guy's been lying in wait for three decades.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
And he also had no idea that Luca liked the
food quite that much. Milwaukee over Indiana one seventeen to
one oh one. Jannis Antenacumpo thirty seven points, Gary Trent
Junior at thirty seven for the Bucks from three point range.
He was nine of twelve at Orlando, a win for
the Magic against Boston ninety five ninety three, even though

(31:43):
Jason Tatum returned from the bruce wrist. Tatum had thirty
six points and seven turnovers final minute of regulation in
the NHL Playoffs at New Jersey Devils tied with Carolina
two to two. Montreal has beaten Washington sixty three at
Edmonton Oilers out to a two nothing lead in the
first against the LA Kings to Major League Baseball, and

(32:04):
Washington beat the Mets five to four, which there was.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
No baseball tonight. There was no baseball tonight.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Well, it was like there was no umpires earlier in
the game. Two runs in the bottom of the night
and that's when you see earlier in the game, the
Nationals turned to triple play, although clearly on replay the
line drive to first actually hit the ground.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Yeah for yeah, got but.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
That triple play really took us right out of the inning. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
The Mets did have the four runs top of the eighth,
did have a late lead. Yeah, you know, they could
have had the Yankees closer maybe and add him to
the no no kill.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Devin Williams ad Alonzo killed Devin Williams.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
And Devin Williams about to get killed in New York
City because he lost again tonight giving up three on
the top of the ninth at Yankee Stadium, Toronto beat
the Yanks four to two. Baltimore at Detroit rained out
doubleheader tomorrow. Boston at Cleveland, rained out doubleheader tomorrow. Kansas
City won its fifth straight game two nothing over Houston.
Wins for Minnesota and the Cubs. Right now top of

(33:01):
the ninth that Saint Louis Cardinals lead three to two
over the Brewers Raves already out to a three to
nothing lead at Arizona, bottom of the third. And what
a pitching matchup at Dodger Stadium tonight. It's Paul Skeens
and the Pirates against LA's Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Pirates lead one
nothing in the second. Again in the NFL Draft, we're
on about pick ninety round number three, Rams up next.

(33:25):
Still no Shudoor Sanders selected in this draft. We are
going back to you.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Thank you, Steve O Boy. If you're a sports fan
here in LA. Tonight, let's see we need a two
screen experience. I got the Lakers in the playoffs, and I.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Got skeens in Yamamoto. Oh and oh, by the way,
that I need.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
The Kings, No, I need ever got everything. King's learning
that working away from home a little different tonight.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Oh sorry, hey, don't forget.

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(34:11):
every single night. Well we're still on Shador Sanders Watch.
But straight ahead, Yeah, well when the pick right there,
we wanted to get to the fact that Stealers continue
to mismanage their team. But straight ahead, how about some
of the big picks that we love so far in
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Speaker 5 (35:35):
I'm sorry, Jason, I was looking for the chador version.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Oh whoa, whoa, He's actually not even on the road,
ty shirt. He's not even on the road yet. Like, yeah,
he'd have to be on the road going. He's not
even on the road. He's still in his house.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
So quickly here that Dar's not even gonna let him
a home.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Oo.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
He's just blind to that little room.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
If you think about it, he is on the road
home because he was at the draft, right, No he
was not. He didn't use no, No, he was home.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
He was a good call.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.
Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a
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to subscribe so you never miss our very best Fox
Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Well, I'll tell you what
time to let you know about some of our favorite
picks in the draft before we're going to do this
throughout the night tonight. Picks we like in the top ten,

(36:24):
picks we liked from eleven through twenty, picks we like
from twenty one to thirty two. Yes, we spent last
night on Travis Hunter and no Chador Sanders and Cam Ward.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
But there's some huge, huge.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Difference maker picks that we're going to spotlight and one
big pick just happened about thirty seconds ago.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Wait, Chador Sanders.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Not quite, not quite, Shadure Sanders, not quite, but still
a very big pick. Nonetheless, you want quarterbacks going in
the second, third round of the draft, we have quarterback.
We had Jackson Darton round one, we had Cam Mordon
round one, we had chucking round two. Well, we got
some guys. Go, we got some guys. Wait, Quinn, you

(37:08):
weres coming, Kyle McCord coming. Oh yeah, we got guys coming.
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Speaker 3 (37:41):
You're jacketing. This is so good.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
This is a family car right here. With the ninety
second pick of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the
Seattle Seahawks have selected my nephew quarter back Alabama Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Oh wow, look at you, ty shirt. A little bit
of sweet Shawn Alexander. Look at that man. You did
not know that though you did not know that. You
did not know that, Alexander.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Jerry Tray, Jerry, we got a trade for you do
with Sanders. He's not even in the NFL. George, he's
not even that. I don't care. We gotta get a
George call me back. Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
So, here is Jalen Milroe taken by the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Now, obviously, hey they're in on Sam Donald. But hey,
Sam Donald, is he really gonna be this good?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
All right?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
We gotta make sure we have our next pipeline in there.
So here comes Jalen Milroe, who was picked in a
great spot. Right, I thought for sure coming into this season,
if you you know, go back to August, where hey,
Milroe's gonna get taken.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
All right.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
He's a first round guy. He is a first round talent,
and he's someone that's gonna come in You're gonna show
everybody how great he is.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Will be a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Big time, early first round player, and then last year
was just kind of okay, And he looked absolutely awful
in the bowl game against Michigan, Like you would look
at him and say, is he a freshman? Is he
like having to play in his first game because their
other quarterback is going to the NFL and is opting
out of the bowl game. That's how bad Jalen Milroll looks.

(39:23):
So you could see a little bit more of a project.
Yet this is perfect. It's a perfect situation for Jalen
Milroe because okay, yeah, Sam Donald's got the gig, right.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
This is what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
He's our guy, and he's court this year into next year.
We're paying them money, yes, yes, yes, but now we
have someone who might need a year a little bit
to get used to the NFL, work on his footwork,
work on his game, because clearly he is not nearly
the finished product that we thought he was going to be.
This is a great landing spot for him. He's outside
of the spotlight and by this time next year, depending

(39:57):
how Sam Donald goes, Jalen Milroe is gonna be much
more ready to take over at some point. Again, he's
got all the tools, he just didn't have a great
enough year and that bolt. Wow, I'll tell you that
Bowl game shows you that, Hey, sometimes that last game
you put on tape if it's an absolute stinker, this
is what can happen.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Well, but that's the curiosity of it, right, I mean
everything else was great, and this is where we get
down to your choices in war rooms and the last
thing might be you know, first first impressions leave a
lot last impressions like what do you do to finish
things out?

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Yeah, it wasn't good? Is that? Should that have been?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
It?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
No? Some something in between, but certainly there's a lot
to like. And you go through the draft analysis and
prospecting of this draft season Jason and he was the
guy that there were a lot of question marks, just like, okay,
how high or low does he go?

Speaker 5 (40:48):
Because a week ago there was a.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Well you could see him, argued that that's the guy
they traded back into the back end of the first
round for well, here you go in the third and
you get him as a value proposition here for a
team on the rebuild.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I really it's it's a it's a great landing spot.
And now that now I like the Seahawks saying, okay,
we're all in on Sam Donald. Well what if Sam
Donald stinks? Okay, because we've seen him stink many more
years when you've seen him be good. So now it's like,
well if Donald stinks, boy, we're stuck. Then we're looking
for a quarterback next year. And said, no, no, now
we have our guy and Jaln Milroll coming in hits
the ground running because yeah, he's had a year in

(41:22):
the program, a year being an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Now it's a great, absolute great pet love this pick
right here.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
And you're committed to Donald, but you're not sixty million
dollars a year committed to Sam Donald.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
All right, So there you go, summer. There's one big
pick we liked. What about some other picks from tonight
and more? The Shador Sanders fall out? Will he still
be on the board in ten seconds? Find out all
that and more coming up next. Jason to Mike, you're
listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
I know who it's not.

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