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here we are on a Friday. We're hours away from
the Heisman Trophy. Maybe maybe we know who's gonna win
after what we found out tonight. Maybe we got another
crazy day with Sharon More But look this is and
I look, I'm I don't want to say I am
luke warm on this because you know, I don't know
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that the Jets can get him. Uh, but I don't
know how excited I am about the Jets if they
got him. But look, Fernando Mendoza is likely going to
walk away with the Heisman Trophy tomorrow. Probably won't be
a close vote, but not going to be a runaway.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
He is now even more favored to win where he
takes home the Maxwell and Davey O'Brien Awards.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Look, he's going to wind up winning.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And we talked about it last week basically, whoever had
the big week conference championship week, that's gonna be your
Heisman Trophy winner.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Because it's not a stat year. It's not a Joe
Burrow accounted for seventy touchdowns like this is.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, I mean, you didn't even have a big stat
to finish it off. Just get the w and move on,
succeed and proceed, right, I.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Mean it's not and it's not like Mendoza or any
of the quarterbacks are light in the world on fire
for the NFL Draft. But yeah, okay, he's gonna win
the Heisman, and he should thirty three touchdowns to lead
all FBS.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Think about that for a second.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Thirty three touchdowns, Like that's a number that in the
early two thousand, it's like, wow, man, thirty Now it's
like thirty three.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's it?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Thirty three touchdowns? What he threw for you? Isn't that?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Like?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But but he's got like twenty rushing touchdowns, right? Oh no,
we don't. Oh okay, Oh, thirty three Okay, it's it's
not a stat year. This is one of those years
where you know, I compare it to it's it's almost like,
and I'm going back to the mid two thousands when
Troy Smith won quarterback at Ohio State. Right, Ohio State
was undefeated. He was their quarterback all season. He was
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a great leader, He led them into the you know,
into the playoffs and and and it was one of
those Hey, he was the quarterback on the best team.
He's gonna win the Heisman Trophy. That's kind of how
I feel like Foranana Mendoza. Over the course of the season,
Indiana's proven themselves to be the best team in the country,
beating Ohio State last week, clearly only undefeated team left.
Banana Mendoza has been pretty good and he's the quarterback.
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I think it's pretty simple. That's pretty easy math to
say Foranana Mendoza Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
What's been the sad part of it, though, is all
week long it becomes the look at these are not
even comparable. And here's some of these great resumes mentioned Burrow.
Go back to some of the great individual seasons that
we've had through the years. Go back to the heroics
of t Bow or Cam Newton's ridiculous numbers, like, Okay,
that's not this year. Okay, it's a different It's a
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different landscape where we've got talent spread out all over
these teams and with nil and all of these opportunities.
It's just a different world. What I think is cool
is in the final Final four is you got four
guys who were far off the map as far as
the Heisman balloting and early projections when we got into
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the season, right current betting odds is Mendoza's ninety two
percent implied probability that he wins. But you look at
coming into the season, arch Man and Cade Club Nick
Garrett Nussmayer got bench multiple times like just keep going
on down the line. You have all those guys, and
in the end it's Mendoza Pavia Love and saying none
of them were better than twenty to one, saying was
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twenty to one, Love was fifty to one, was one
hundred and twenty five to one, and Mendoza was fifty
five to one in the open. So you just talk
about the run of a college landscape and where we're
at in the just a very different game and we've
talked about it every week, watching it at the political theater.
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That has been the playoff committee and the run through
and this is just you know, the culmination of that.
Now for your jets, we wait and see.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Look, here's the thing is that I'm I'm okay after
seeing the quarterbacks play over the course of the past
few weeks, right coming into the season, after the first
three four weeks, I'm like, oh, man, it's gonna Mendoza,
could be Dante Moore, Ty Simpson is playing really well.
They're gonna have oh whoever needs a quarterback. You're gonna
be the top of the draft. You're gonna be excited.
But nobody ever really took that next step. I feel
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like we're we're kind of falling all over ourselves to
try to make for Nana Mendoza and to be look
great college quarterback.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right, this is this two different things we're thinking about here.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But part of the ex is who's going to jump
to that next level and be a great player? And yeah,
somebody will, right, Maybe it's Mendoza, maybe it's Dante Moore,
maybe it's Garrett nuss Meyer, who knows. But there's not
that overall excitement of Wow, what a great quarterback class,
and you see all evaluators saying, hey man, you're going
to see NFL teams push their quarterback ships to twenty
twenty seven when it seems like it's going to be
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a little bit better. I guarantee you if Arch Manning
came out this year, he'd be the number one pick.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, and that's where we're in the latest rumor, right,
that's where at if.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He came out he'll be the number one pick this year. Yeah,
I mean he finished strong, finished well.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And you know you're talking about potentially teams like the Rams, right,
we talked about them a little bit with Joe Burrow.
Folks can find that full podcast yesterday. All the speculation,
you know, Matthew Stafford in his future and whatever else.
But when we're starting to look at at teams that
have an established quarterback, I wouldn't be surprised if with
a lot of these players that we're looking at here,
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you got two different things going on at play.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
One.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
If if you're not going to get the first round
valuation and evaluation from these talent folks, as you're going
towards the draft, you're like, I can make how much
an nil money if I stick around or I move
to another school or whatever, because it's pretty good money.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
The other side is that you have teams like the
Rams and maybe others that have a quarterback, and again
the Stafford thing, we don't know longevity, he could walk
away tomorrow. Is the fact that you're looking at maybe
going back to more of the Packers model if you're
not sure right of, Hey, let's get a guy in
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the building before we need to, and we bring them
along because how many teams have the break glass in
case of emergency? Was like, well, it's got to work
with this guy, and then they're terrible. It's like, all right,
how long do we run this out before we go
draft another guy and another one and another. Like it's
just that same thing year after year. And while folks
don't like Jordan, you know, some folks still try to
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go against what Jordan loves become. I think he's a
lot better in option and a lot more efficient in
option than almost anything else you're running out there. So
it's that kind of thing with these quarterbacks moving forward,
is that maybe we get a little bit of a
landscape shift in the NFL as well in terms of
trying to get these guys straight in because a lot
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of them have only played one years at high levels too, right,
and what have we seen with that time and again
in the NFL that don't work? No, right now, that
doesn't work straight from twelve or twelve games of fifteen games?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Bill Parcells would always say, I'm taking a guy with
three years and thirty starts. Those are the only guys
I'm not taking something with one year. Who's a one
year wonder that all of a sudden shows up and
is terrific. Now, certainly there are guys who are going
to break that mold. Joe Burrow certainly broke that mold,
and other guys will do that. But overall, yeah, it's
a very developmental year quarterback, right, And that's why I
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th Look, it's been a tepid Heisman race the entire season.
I can remember how many conversations have we had about
the Heisman Trophy over the course of the last two
and a half months. One we had we had any
more than a passing thought or a passing question with
Pete Futec on the Heisman trophy. Like it's it's like again,
it's a it's a two thousand and six Troy Smith.
He's a terrific leader, and he's the best quarterback on
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the best team. And there's your Heisman trophy.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Whether that's not he goes I mean a little bit preseason,
a little bit as the the stuff started chaotically for
Arch Manning and a few others, But otherwise, I mean,
does the Heisman still have the same juice that it
once did?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Right? It used to be much must see TV.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Then it became a three hour TV show with a
lot of interviews and cast like I'll tune in the
final five minutes to find out who they crown, uh,
when the betting odds are close. But in this particular case,
I'm sure we'll get Mendoza's speech. And he can't top
what he did after the Big Ten title game anyway, No,
no, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It be tough. That's gonna be tough, right, he ain't top.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
In that minute and a half or whatever the hell
that was of excited utterances and alternating between a hype
man and religious talk. I mean, it was just going
back and forth, like, Wow, here's a lot going on
in this man's head. But he is jacked up and
I'm there with him.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Now competing with the Heisman Trophy Tomorrow I'm sure will
be whatever twist and turn we get from form Michigan
head coach Sharon Moore, who appeared in court today remotely
in a prison jumpsuit, facing a felony and a couple
of misdemeanor chargers following his dismissal as Michigan head coach.
Now with every day, a few more details get out,
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and today we get a better example of the whole
picture where Sharon Moore and this staffer had a relationship
going on the last couple of years. According to many reports,
was the worst kept secret in the athletic department. And
when it got close to being found out a couple
of weeks ago, Sharon Moore, who had somehow the woman
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he was having an affair with, got a raise on
her annual salary from fifty grand a year to ninety
grand a year. Didn't get a bump, didn't get a promotion,
just say hey, you got more money. When this was
started to become a bigger story and unable to be
contained anymore or it was gonna break wide open, he
was advised to break off this relationship and not have
any contact with the stafford. He was advised to not
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have any contact with her. He then decided to fire
her instead of transferring her elsewhere in the football program.
This is when she came forward to the school with
details of their affair. He was fired. He goes to
her house with a knife. He threatens to kill her,
and then watch and watch him kill himself. He drops
the knife, he runs out, The police catch him at
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a church. And now this is this mess for Michigan,
as we said last night, just gets bigger and bigger.
You think this is bad, No, no, just wait twenty
four hours, and wait twenty four hours after that, and.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
After that after that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This is just the beginning, because now we're gonna get
into who knew what when with this affair. But the
biggest thing that I take away from this today and
I scratch my head and I go, you know, you
see in movies, you see characters that somehow juggle all
kinds of balls in the air at once, and they
always seem to make the right decision right like like
I watched Jax tell her and sons of anarchy, I'm
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going nobody has more on his plate in the not
even the president has more on the plate on his
plate in the world in this guy. How does he
do this?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right? How does he do this?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And when you're doing things like here's Sharon Moore who
was married and he was carrying on an affair and
he's a head coach of Michigan.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
This is a dude with a lawn on his plate.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Man, right, But when it goes on for a couple
of years, obviously he's able to do things. But the
mistake that I can't come back to and I shake
my head and go, how do you think this was
a good idea? When you get advised to not work
directly with her anymore. Now, there's many things you could
do at that point, right, You can transfer her. You
can just say, hey, listen, we shouldn't have contact anymore.
(11:41):
It's getting too hot for us. Whatever it is, however
it is. But you really think firing her was gonna
end it? Like do you think you were that powerful
that firing her was gonna enit?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
It?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Like she wasn't gonna say, oh, okay, you're gonna fire me. No, no, no, no,
I'll fire you. How about that, I gotta fire you, Rod, No,
I'll fire you, big bong fire you of go, I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Gonna go to the school. And it's like, well, okay,
did you really think fire?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That was gonna be it? Like that was gonna she
was gonna walk away and go huh. We had some laughs.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's it. It's over what Yeah that was? That was
that should not have been a branch? How do you think?
How did you think that was gonna go that way?
I read that. That's what baffles.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Me the most about all of this is that, after
all that's gone on and keeping all these balls in
the air, that's the decision he made that. They're like, okay,
we're gonna fight. I'm gonna fire you. And that's when
she goes to the school. Because I was wondering, oh boy,
when it turns out she went to the school and
told them about their affair, you're thinking, okay, why what
is this now? Now the situation could get even more
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out of control. But then oh, he was gonna fire.
Of course she's gonna go and say oh no, no, no,
you think it none of you. Just wait and see
what happens now you want to fire me from this job?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Like that?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's the one where I go, wow, I don't know
how that decision was made.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I really don't what is it? The old hell hath
no fury. As for the forty thousand dollars rais, remember
Babe Ruth was once asked why he was making as
much as the president, and he said he had a
better year. So I think you can look at Babe
Ruth and see the home runs ago probably a better
year than the president. And and maybe maybe she was
looking at some metrics uh on and off the the
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office that that may have have led to that I
don't know, happiness quotients and whatever else. But uh yeah,
in terms of that being the end game to this,
I we we questioned some of the rationality, you know,
the the heart wants what it wants, whatever else, and
and decision making complicated.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
As you say, you know, you got a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Of things, and and as we've watched plenty of uh what,
spy movies and crime movies and and heist movies during
our time together here at Fox Sports Radio, that we
could probably have our own letterboxed uh subset.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
For what we've done.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
You and I've had all the novels that you've read
and and that I've listened to you talk about Uh
that that we we've got every permutation. It never ends
with hey, I can fire this person and it's gonna
go well, that's never been a.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Plot point in any of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And common sense, No, no editor is gonna take that
in from a writer and go, yeah, that's how.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It should end. No, they're kicking back, going that's not
gonna work.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I mean, and in big business now, whenever there is
a situation that involves something like this, it is what
is the best thing to do?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Do we do we go and fire them? Do we wait?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Do we make sure we cross all our t's and
dot our i's where we make that decision because we
don't know how re litigious things are gonna get right
in front of the lawyers, that's right, right. Look at
what happens in sports now when you see someone embroiled
in a scandal.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
And and you know what ESPN used to do this?
Uh really really they were, they were at the forefront
of this honestly. Is that when something would happen and
and if somebody did something that embarrassed the brand, embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We've seen it elsewhere as well.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know, he's seen it a fox, We've seen in
places right, So when the decision is always okay, we
could fire this person right away, but then it's gonna
get litigious, and then we're gonna be dragged and it
goes a big deal and it's dragged into court and
it's all these things.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Or we wait it out.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And their contract ends and we don't hire them again,
and that's it and we move on and it's and
it's and it's just and it's way cleaner.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
And that's kind of how things are done.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like you you don't see like that's why companies have
to take so much care into what's going on when
you fire someone, because you don't know what that's gonna
mean coming back at you.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What what is that gonna be there?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
You fire someone, you open that up to all kinds
of lawsuits, and who knows what's gonna be out there?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
What one person knows, what it doesn't. It's a big unknown.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So to make that decision to fire somebody when you
don't know how it's gonna go, I.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Go, wow, that is that is That is not That's.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Not a page out of out of any kind of
business school I've ever been to. That when you hey,
when you want to fire somebody. You gotta be damn
sure that you have all your your pages figured out
and your your t's crossed and your i's dotted before
you want to make a move like that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
That's a plausible deniability up the top. But if this
is the worst kept secret, okay, now it's see who
knows what where? How when we talk about litigiousness, I
mean they think of it just in sports, the number
of issues that have been at all places. A lot
of times it's the as you say, let the clock
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run out, like we're not getting into the legal ease
because discovery is a patting gas. John Gruden right as
excited as he is to get a box a crap
from school X and do it unboxing, like he's one
of those little kids with holiday toys. You're telling me
he wouldn't rather have been coaching. Now, he may end
up getting some massive ass settlement and at all, but
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doesn't he always strike you as a guy that would
have rather been on a sideline somewhere?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah? I think so?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Right, So you know, and just go on down the
line that things come out. I mean that the Kaepernick case, right,
I mean, how many of the NFL owners like we
don't need anything coming out of this. Figure out what
the settlement is and you can debate how much ended
up being paid out in that and so many other
cases across our sporting landscape that have nothing to do
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with dalliances and office romances. Those are plenty and there where.
We've got those all across the landscape. Plenty of minds
have blown up over the course of the years for those.
But just talk about just from the straight business part
of it, it still just goes back to pragmatism of all. Right,
let's see while it is not grounded or hasn't festered
(17:28):
in rationality, at some point we need to be adults
and come to an endgame. Uh, you know which is
bet and for this you know his family, friends, you
know everybody associated, right, the wife and kids. Uh, and
the how this all came to a head, Like you're
you're just if you feel terrible for all of it,
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but you know, the firing was the the step if
you avoided that, I mean settlements and agreements and separation
termination however you want to want to come to it.
This was just not the way to try to end
multiple years. I mean, this wasn't a one one or two. Uh,
(18:10):
you know, meet up kind of things. This is a
long standing thing according to the latest reports. So it's
i's a.
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Speaker 2 (19:46):
I want to thank you Alex tyshirt ahead of time.
I mean to clip and save this winning me so
many great points with.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
My daughter today.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Really yeah, so because you've played this song so many times, right,
and know what other show you'd ever gonna hear the
DMX Rootolf the red Nose Reindeer version, especially as often
as you play it here, because I've heard it so
many times now, I know the beginning so well, like
that came on the radio today and and all of
(20:15):
a sudden it's going and and the the uh you know,
the words on the on the screen didn't come up
for some reason.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It was one of those things where it was like
still showing you what what station we were listening to
the holiday you know, uh, Holly and and you know
whoever the DJ was, and it's doing that ding ding,
and so he goes, oh, what song is this?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I go this DMX rut off the Red Nose Reindeer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Still while it's going yeah it's X, I seem so
cool at that point because I'm like, yeah, that's DMX, yeah,
rute off the Red Nose Reindeer, Like, how do you
know that?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Dad? Yeah? Yeah, dad knows things. I know things.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, we've hit the Pavlovian response for those things. I
will say this. I put together a little bit of
a mix while I was making breakfast for you know,
to hang it out out with the kid this morning,
and I had the Alex Tyshert Super mix going, and
at some point she just looked at me and said,
are you okay? Between the metal matchups? Christopher Lee, DMX,
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you name it? Like it got to like five to
the fifth song, and she's like, dude, what happened? What
happened to your old Elvis and Engelbert and whatever else?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Like it's a new world order, man, what do you want?
So we could be looking at not one but two
quarterback changes this week.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
In the NFL. One definitive Lee and one name the
definitive one.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It is the New Brady Era in the NFL, just
like Tom Brady showed up in two thousand and one.
He comes in at the end of the game because
of an injury to a quarterback and he plays okay
but not great. Started the next week he takes the
Patriots on a run. They become a two decade Super
Bowl champion. Same thing. Brady comes in last week for
(22:01):
the Jets. Play's okay a little bit, but they lose it.
Now we're starting a new two decade run thanks to
Brady Cook, who will start a quarterback for the Jets
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
The New Brady Era is here.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Mike Harmon, embrace it. It's just like the old one.
I'm telling you, man, Watch out Jacksonville. Brady Cook four touchdowns,
three point fifty and it's wall.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Look at this. All of a sudden, we have a
new Brady.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
The new Brady will be the hot will be the
pictures everywhere. It'll be a superimposed Brady Cook and a
Tom Brady Jersey. Brady Brady. Every twenty years we get
a repeat of history. And we had it twenty years
ago with Tom Brady. Now we're getting it now with
Brady Cook.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
This would be fantastic. Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Plus thirteen and a half on the road left for dead?
If he comes out and has a massive game, Are
you kidding?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Smith?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Come on, get on board this that you have the
quarterback of your future in your building, m.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Or elseid, we don't need to worry about it. We're
gonna yeah. No, I mean it's not New Brady. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I don't know that the transference policy of just names works.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
But hey, I like the cut of your gym.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I like your optimism because you've been selling it down
the river. You've been mad about the Mets all week
and now, and now you get to this game. Let's
see over under for pass completions is sixteen and a half?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, the first half. That's the Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I don't even see one for betting time to passing
yards here time cook. I don't even say they put
a number on it.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
All I see is a Trevor Lawrence get ready, get
ready for get ready, get ready, everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's the new You wanted Mac Jones to be the
new Tom Brady. Blank that man, I got your new
Tom Brady. It's dude's just Brady. We just called Brady.
It's Brady, Brady Cook Brady.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Get ready. Oh my goodness, this would be fair.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I mean, it'd be a fantastic thing for you because
it would really throw the AFC cell into tizzy. Because
right now people in Jacksonville, those folks, I gotta go
find that original Jacksonville Jaguars hat that I have sitting
around for when my aunt and uncle moved down there,
when he was there for work, as they he was
a charter member of their season ticket holders. He embraced
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it fully, and right now they're sitting there going it's
ours for the taking.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
It's the Jets.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Starting Sunday, the Jets own the next two decades in
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
They ought it's the Brady. It's just like it was. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Brady comes in and Drew bledste gets hurt and he
plays okay, you know, he drives them a little bit,
but he fails on fourth down. The Jets wind up winning,
and then okay, the next week things start to get better.
They go to the super Bowl. They went and look
at this, that's that was last week.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
He came in.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yes, he turned the ball over a couple of times,
had a big touchdown drop. But other than that he played. Okay,
Now get ready to you think Jacksonville's good. Watch what happens?
Now watch this Trevor Lawrence second best quarterback on the
field Sunday. You just watch and if if I'm one
of the other Jets quarterbacks gets on the field, third
best quarterback on the field, if Adrian Martinez gets to play,
third best quarterback on the field.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Wow, Trevor Lawrence is on a bit of a heater
for fantasy purpose. This has been over nineteen fantasy boids
three straight games, so a big opportunity for him here.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Come on that is you know that does qualify as
a Lawrence heater at nineteen fast Usually with the elite
fantasy quarterbacks like hey, twenty five thirty points, but.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You know, here's Trevor Lawrence at nineteen. Hey, guys on
a heater.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The guys on the heaters at nineteen fantasy points.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Well, what's been interesting to watch this year? And obviously
doing the iWatch Flex podcast. Go download it as you
will and we appreciate your support and listen, send it
to friends and family just like you do the podcast.
Here everything on the iHeartRadio app. I mean you're looking
at right now, average for quarterbacks. Jalen Hurts is sixth
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at nineteen and a half. Yeah, that's where we're at
in our quarterback run for this year. Back end QB twelve,
Trevor Lawrence seventeen and a half a game.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Look at him.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Nobody more average, no more average fantasy quarterback than that,
right there?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Come on, ahead of Love, He's ahead of Baker, He's
ahead of Sam Sam, Sam, He's ahead of Lamar.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
The big question is, though, will he be ahead of
Philip Rivers, who may or may not start and play
for the Colts on Sunday against the Seahawks. Right, we've
been tracking this story all week long, and the Colts
are being cagey as to who's going to start a
quarterback for them this week.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Is it going to be Philip Rivers? Will it be
Burt Jones?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I don't know what caginess you really need to worry about.
I mean, you're looking at Philip Rivers film from five
years ago. Really, the Seahawks are favored in this game
by thirteen and a half. And the only question for
me in this game, depending on who plays quarterback, if
it's Brett Rippon or Philip Rivers is okay. So if
it's Brett Rippon or Philip Rivers, that means do I
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take the Seahawks by twenty or the Seahawks by thirty?
That's that's the only question I have. Are they gonna
win by twenty or by thirty? This is I mean, really,
I can't believe Philip Rivers hasn't said, hey, guys, maybe
after this week. This is this is a top five
defense in the NFL, and they are talking about a heater.
They're on a heater. Maybe next week things will get
a little bit easier for me and I can have
a little bit more of the playbook.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Grasp.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
This is gonna be ugly. The cults are on the road.
They're in free fall. I really, man, it's a pin
your ears back day for the Seahawks. Seahawks by twenty
or thirty, that's the all the difference in the quarter.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I think if Rippin plays, maybe they win by twenty
because they'll go a little bit more conservative. But if
Philip Rivers plays, I'll let them sling it. So maybe
one extra pick six, maybe in two extra turnovers and
one pick, they run all the way back to the
ten yard line and kick a field goal. So yeah,
by twenty, by twenty or by thirty if it's Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
What do we got? Seahawks fourth in the NFL with
forty one sacks, right now behind the Broncos who put
up fifty five on the year. Falcons at forty eight
sneaky because well, we've just kind of mocked them most
of the year until last night's win and Captain Kirk
but and then the Browns at forty four. Most of
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those mombiles Garrett as a playce. And for those that
don't know who Bert Jones is, yeah, let's go all
the way back. Seventy three to eighty two were his
active years Baltimore and then with the Rams to close
it out in his career.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So do you want he was NFL MVP. I think
in seventy six or seventy seven.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
He was the MVP of the NFL one year and he.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Had a great miller like commercial Burt Jones Once upon
a time.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
He had five awards, including the NFL AP MVP, the
PFWA MVP, all of those in nineteen seventy six. All right,
go back to seventy six, going back to our our
fun and exciting world that we were talking about with
the Heisman Trophy. By way of comparison, he had twenty
four touchdowns against nine interceptions average. He completed sixty percent
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of his passes and through for thirty one hundred yards
nine point two average yards per attempt, fifteen.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yards per completion. Boy, what a different NFL it was
back in the day. It's interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, it's not just this week that, oh, here's Philip
Rivers coming out against an NFL team.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
This is Philip Rivers coming out.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Honestly, the Seahawks right now probably the second best team
in the NFL. I take them behind the Rams, and
not that all the teams are great, but somebody's got
to be first, somebody's got to be second, somebody's got
to be thirty second. The Seahawks right now, number two
team in the NFL. I would take the Seahawks over
the Patriots right now. I take the Seahawks over the
Broncos right now. I take their defense to be more opportunistic.
(29:47):
I mean, you're not just saying, hey, we're playing starting
against a good team you're on the road in a
hostile environment against one of the.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Top two teams in the league. Do we really think
that's gonna go forty one sacks? You're talking about an
offensive line that's had its issues of injuries. Riley Leonard
doesn't carry an injury designation even though they say he's
week to week, So we have no idea what that means. Really,
trying to be crafty and cagey is stiking as we
end the week. But yeah, it no matter how much
(30:17):
I want to be positive, and you know, it's the
Christmas season and all that fun stuff. I've talked it
into existence because now that Carol Brady getting her voice
back to sing at church thing is showing up on
my timeline, So there you go. But it's just the
idea of let's be realists about it. There might be
a couple of plays, they might be able to scheme
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a few things up, but you got sixty minutes of football.
I mean, that's an awful lot of time for these
guys especially. We've talked about sack totals, We've talked about incentives,
we talked about trying to still battle the final four
weeks to see if you can't get yourself not only
a division win, but to be the number one seed. Right,
all of that stuff still at play here. So yeah,
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you're not gonna take this lightly, and you're gonna go
in to bury him if he does play, and even
if he doesn't, are you really worried about Brett Rippon?
This is a guy that's bounced around a bunch. Riley
Leonard showed you know just what he doesn't know at
this point, right, It's just a very difficult proposition for
this Indianapolis team once upon a time, resplendent and full
(31:22):
of hope, making trades, making deals to forti five things
for a second half and then we want watch poor
Daniel Jones crumple on the field.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Time to find out what's trending right now by world
of sports is someone who got to give it up
for her You know, this is the time of the
year when people have to play hurt.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
There's no other choice.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
It's December, it is winning time, and Monte belangos in
with a fever of one hundred and forty six to
do updates and keep us posted on what is trending
tonight in the wide world of sports.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
I'm feeling better. My fever is only one oh seven,
so that's good. Oh yeah, so I'm feeling better. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Okay, Hi, you guys got a real husky, husky whiskey
filled voice.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
Yeah no, no, I sound sexy as Phoebe says. And friends,
you know what I'm saying. You can sexys.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Go get mama whiskey. Don't go get mama whiskey.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Yeah boy, yeah no, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to
keep it like this.
Speaker 8 (32:15):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I want to hear the kids version of later on.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Don't make me laugh because it hurts. All right, all right,
let me start. Let me start with some college football news.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
Indiana quarterback for Nano Mendoza to come the twenty twenty
five Davey O'Brien Award for Best Quarterback and the twenty
twenty five Maxwell Award for Most Outstanding Player in the Nation,
while Norre Dame running back Jeremiah Love has won the
Dope Walker Award as the nation's top running back.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
He's the first Notre Dame running back to win the award.
When it comes to the NBA, there's some games going
on right now. The Mavericks lead the Nets one oway
to one oh seven. With about four minutes to go
in Dallas, the Timberwolves lead the Warriors thirty to twenty nine.
It's still early in the second quarter in this one
the games that have wrapped up all the Bulls took
down the Hornets won twenty nine to one twenty six.
Pistons over the Hawks one forty two to one fifteen.
(33:05):
Joel Embiid was vintage Joel Embiid. He had thirty nine
points tonight and the Sixers defeated the Pacers one fifteen
to one oh five. Jonovan Mitchell had a night forty
eight points, and the Cavaliers took down the Wizards one
thirty to one twenty six. The Jazz and the Grizzlies
went down to the wire, butt Utah won it one
thirty to one twenty six. When it comes to the NHL,
only two games, only two games today. The Blues defeated
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the Blackhawks three to two, and the Mammoth right now
are up on the crack in two to one.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
It's late in the second period.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Other NFL news, besides the Jets turning to rookie Brady
Cook to be their starting quarterback against the Jaguars. Yeah,
the Colts haven't publicly named the starting quarterback for a
Week fifteen yet, but the Raiders are gonna start.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Can you pick it at quarterback against the Eagles?
Speaker 6 (33:45):
As Gino Smith has a shoulder injury, Cowboys wide receiver
CD Lamb officially clear concussion protocol.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
He's gonna play against the Vikings on Sunday night.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
But Bengals wide receiver T Higgins won't play against the
Ravens in Week fifteen because of his concussion.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Back to you guys, thanks so much, uch, Yes, and
you're you're gonna sing Smelly Cat Forest later?
Speaker 8 (34:02):
Yeah, right, definitely?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
What are they coming up next? Hey?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Our big Football Friday continues, two big bold predictions for
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the most underrated game of the day Sunday in the NFL,
the most under Two big bold predictions for this game
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and beyond, and it involves Mike Carmon, your Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
The beloved.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
All Right, we get the Browns and the Bears Sunday.
And first let's deal with the Browns and Shador Sanders,
who was going to start the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
We found it out earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
He was asked about his comments on it, and he said, listen,
only focused on the Bears going forward. Uh, something a
little bit different about Shador Sanders, you know who he
kind of feels like so far, Uh with what he's
what he's like on the field and off the field,
he kind of feels like he's the next Jameis Winston, right,
(35:34):
like Jamis you see where his career is now. Man,
He was fun, he was dynamic. He threw a lot
of touchdowns, threw a lot of interceptions, right, was very
gregarious off the field, was always someone you wanted to
hear what he had to say for whatever reason. And and
and clearly Shadoor Sanders has the built in deon Sanders.
Uh and and and Colorado attention coming into the NFL,
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But that's kind of what he feels like. Sanders has
a lot of talent. He's a gunslinger. He's gonna he's
gonna move you up and down the field. He's also
gonna give the ball to the other team a couple
of times a game, just like Jameis Winston did.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
He's entertaining.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Whether he is saying something that you say, Wow, that
was pretty cool. I give him credit for that, or
saying something you go, man, I don't know that I
would have said that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
But he's always someone that stirs, that knows how to
stir the drink. Uh and and it is going to
be this kind of I would say, this kind of
performance we're gonna get on Sunday and throughout where he's
gonna be someone that is going to make throws and
make plays you go, wow, this is our guy. And
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then he's gonna make maddening decisions that make you go, oh,
we can't go anywhere near this guy.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
He's a backup. But overall as entertaining. You think about
the roller coaster ride and how much.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Fun Jameis Winston's career has been, like I feel like
Shador Sanders in a little bit of a different way,
is the same way with his talent. How he approaches
the game, how how we how we gravitate towards what
he has to say, makes news off the field, like
almost feels like this, this is the kind of guy
he's gonna be for his career. Yeah, except for that
little run in with that reporter way back and when
(37:08):
right the and I A, you know, the preseason stuff.
He said all the right things, like even getting after
his sibling, his mom or whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It's like, hey, come on, like we're talking football, like
all the right things. Seems like a overall a pretty
good kid that's just trying to learn and come along.
So doesn't mean that behind the scenes there's not more
to it, right. I still don't believe in a thirty
two team conspiracy. It's the NFL. If anybody thought he
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was really gonna be able to come right in and
help them win, come on, these guys. We know the
cutthroat business this is and how quickly they churned through guys.
But but for Shador, we've seen some big plays. The
fact that he is willing to take shots downfield has
opened up some big opportunities. We've seen Judkins, we've seen
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Samson's no Samson this week, he's been ruled out. But
where they've able to take short passes and make chaos
because the linebackers have to play honestly down the field
as it translated into massive numbers for those wide receivers. No,
but Harold Fannon is a weekly fantasy hero for you here.
Jerry Judy actually seems interested in playing football again. All
(38:18):
of that is bed as opposed to, you know, the
shot putting that Dylan Gabriel was doing back in the day.
So yeah, for Shador, it's a matter of avoiding the
catastrophic turnovers because they'll move the ball on the Bears,
I have no doubt on that. It's just you know,
will they be able to go you into what has
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led to Elite leading twenty seven turnovers. The answer is
probably yes. So he's got to be smart with the
football and it's gonna be a rock that he's throwing
as well, right because it's gonna be twenty below zero
as a game time temperature. If you want to go
see a football game in the freezing cold to say
you did it, you can get in for undred hundred
bucks to watch this, I would advise against.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I expect them to move the football.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I expect the Bears to get turnover and start the
Bears defensive fantasy. And where we're at right now, all
the questions with Chicago coming off the lost Sunday. They're
gonna win this game and they're still gonna win the
NFC North. Okay, all of this, Oh look, it's all
coming down. They lose to Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
They lost on the last play and if DJ Moore
and if Caleb Williams waited another second on that last
fourth down pass, DJ Moore walks into the.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
End zone, right, we had multiple options that he missed.
It's an okay loss. It happens. It's part of Caleb Williams' growth.
But Green Bay is two inconsistent. They have a tough
game this week that I don't think they're gonna win.
And after this week, we're talking about the Bears being
back on top of the NFC North and they're gonna
win the division. And we're gonna say they may not
be home Field Bears, but they're gonna win the division.
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By the time the season ends, we're gonna be fantastic
with all look at the Bears and singing their praises.
Everything is fine for the Bears.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Mike Carmon, Yeah, I think when we look at this
one right, it's another great opportunity for the growth of
Ozzy Trapillo out of Boston College. Why left tackle, baby,
you get Miles Garrett. He's acquitted himself pretty nicely against
the other pass rushers in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Another big test this week, Exit out about a Fresca
exit swollen dome.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
So there it is the most underrated game of the week,
Shadure and the Bears and a lot of turnovers. But
coming up next we preview the two biggest games in
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Keep it Air Football Friday, Fuck