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October 5, 2023 37 mins

In Hour 1 of the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys react to the endings for the NL and AL Wildcard series all ending in sweeps. The guys discuss the fatigue of Taylor Swift coverage in the NFL, and Jason proclaims the complaints are completely ridiculous, and are only from people who hate on everything. Plus, the guys discuss the Patriots turmoil and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
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Day two of the Major League Baseball Playoffs, is it

(00:54):
really and well? We have Day two and another four games.
I kind of like the four games in one day.
I kind of I dig this more than the We're
gonna have three games and then the next day we
have one game, and then then we're gonna have two games.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Then we're gonna no. I kind of like, hey, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
First round four games, four games, because if a game
is not good, we go to the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
It's like, if if you can't guarantee me we're getting
something good, just hit me with volume and I kind
of dig four games yesterday, four games today.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah. But when it's volume of suck, is it good?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
It doesn't matter, it's more suck tho.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Well, going home already.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Would you rather have one slice of pizza that's bad
or a whole pizza that's bad because you'll.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Still eat some of the pizza.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Well, but I mean, I'm probably stopping after one. I
can't speak for you, but if it's bad, I'm probably out.
But you know what, if you feel in because you've
spent the money. See, this is where we get into
that economic lesson of sunk costs that you and I
have talked about for a long time. That we we
would have to talk about that a little bit more,

(01:54):
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Now here's the this is the big Takeawy, because as
you said, everybody's gonna be going home right minutes so
it has beaten Toronto.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Toronto's eliminated Texas. They beat Tampa Bay. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Tampa Bay's out. Philadelphia is just moments away. From beating Miami.
They're up seven to nothing in the top of the
seventh and bottom of the ninth inning. Milwaukee's about to
go home, and and and Craig Counsel will be named
manager of the New York Mets.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
So there's that.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I think he puts out a hat in his post.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I think he's already wearing it in the botto. I
think he's already he's already changing in the dugout. I
saw a little bit of that, like he's actually putting
on the Mets uniform. They actually gave him book show
Walter's jersey said, no, I need a new one. So
he's gonna have to put that new one off.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Did you think your guys there ready to swoop in?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Listen?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
David Stern shows up. Hey, guys, remember me, I was there.
I was here for a while.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Remember me. Hey, how you doing.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Just came to get skipped there is his emissary.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, no, no, I just came to get skip and
and and we're leaving. It's all good. We'll see you
good Hey guys. Hey, great run here, good luck next year. Okay, great,
thank you to see you guys later on.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, I gotta ask another question, is Marlin's Man at
this game again because it's in prime time?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh yeah, Marlin's Man is not going tomorrow games unless
it helps Marlin's Man. He's gonna go to other games
that maybe are better.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
So there's that.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, I mean, you're just a fraud wearing that jersey
at another ballpark. It's like when you show up at
an NFL stadium, who's playing Bears Broncos? What are you
wearing Packers jersey?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Well, you know my whole thing celebrating the NFL.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Listen, you can't go to a game of teams that
are playing and wear a jersey or ahead of a
team that's not playing.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You gotta you gotta wear something that represents what's going
on here.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Stay home, extra hats, stay home.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Stay I'm not gonna go to a Chargers Raiders game
and wear a Jets jersey.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
I mean, I'm not gonna Jets and I'm not gonna
do it.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
So both. I won't want to fight me because those
be confused.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
But of this, of the baseball today, I do have
one I have. I have a thing for everybody, and
I know that this is something that's probably not gonna happen.
But in sports, you need to celebrate your will you
say it all the time, celebrating your win, right, exactly right,
And we're gonna see the first round of the playoffs
is gonna end tonight. It's gonna end in about fifteen minutes, right,

(04:05):
first round of Thesah. We need to celebrate wins. And
we're still talking now in the post after season glow
of what do the Yankees do next? The Yankees are mad,
the Yankees driving conversation. The Mets have fired their manager,
they could get somebody else. We were still in the acts. Boy,
the regular season zero is over and all of these

(04:27):
teams are going home, and look at these teams that
can celebrate being in the playoffs and tada, while we're
still talking about who's gonna manage the Mets or what
the Yankees are gonna do. Toronto has done, Tampa Bay's done,
the Marlins are done, and the Brewers will be done.
So like two days after the season ends, you're seeing
it done.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's over.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's over for every BET's over for half of these
teams in this round, and you don't really get a
chance to celebrate. Hey, we had a great season. We
got to the playoffs. You need I want a little
bit more of that, right, like I want a little
bit more of Hey, we want it. This is one
hundred and sixty two game slog and we're one of
the best teams in baseball.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
We have the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
I'd like to have three or four days of walking
around and wearing my gear and saying, hey, I'm pretty
happy where we're at, and get excited about the games
coming up.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I don't care if there's no I.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Don't want to go from ay, this is great, oh,
now this, and now after the first day of celebrating
we're in the playoffs, I gotta worrybout the next day
of the season being over. I mean, I'd like there
to be a little bit of time built in. You
can let teams all come into the playoff series. You
can set up, have them set up their pitching staffs,
and have a great and equal setting as you can
here in the postseason, there's no savory, there's no celebration.

(05:37):
Looking in college basketball, when your team makes the tournament,
by and large, you get four days of celebrating and
being excited going. Sometimes you're playing the play in game, okay,
but at least you get a couple of days. You
get a couple of days, you know, NFL you get
a whole week. You get a whole week.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
In between play where this place is playoffs. Sometimes you
get more than that.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
If you have a buy in the NBA, you have
a lot of time now, especially with the playing round,
you have all kinds of time to get in. So
the team that are good enough to get in, yeah,
i'd like to I'd like to have a little bit
more time, but just you know, relax and savor the
trifle a little bit and and and clap hands and
say hey, this is great, and this is awesome, and
I'm excited before I say okay, now i gotta get
it going again. Instead, it's like, hey, right away, because

(06:15):
we're jamming in as many games as possible, and we're
jamming it all in all the way through, and we're adding.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Stuff, so let's do it.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I kind of feel bad that we're still in the
after effects of the season and half the teams are
done after tonight. Half the teams that make it into
this round are done after tonight.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, but they get to put a banner up that
they made the postseason. They get to stop any slides
for our boss, Scott Shapiro. He's already buying Parkers for
the inevitable uh World Series, Uh, or at least uh,
you know, NLCS battles to come. You know, maybe just
down the street, but you know, maybe maybe he's got

(06:52):
got to travel back to Minnesota, uh for for some
run there in the in the World Series. I mean,
there's just all sorts of craziness, uh that that goes on.
Obviously he's a Twins fan, so I had to make
sure to drag the Dodgers back in there. So it
wasn't you know, because he immediately said brave. I'm like, well,
you could just be here, you could see games right
down the street. But also the parka to go back

(07:12):
to Minnesota. But I told him he could just crawl
in the tunnels.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Go, oh that's good, that's good. Yeah, just states stay
in the tunnels.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
But then look, I mean, the Brewers are now done, right,
Arizona finishes them off. At no point do we get
to see Bernie Brewer slide it all? No, no, no
home runs, they're done, no wins, they're done, and the
Diamondbacks advanced.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So hey, Bernie Brewer Son's getting a little big, guys,
time Son's getting pretty low, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
He could go fill himself up a tall mug and
not have to worry about reporting to work too early tomorrow.
But you know, the way this series go, Yeah, to
your point, we're talking about, you know, managers comings and
going some of the All right, here's some of the
big disappointments for the year, and what do they need
to do to get right, whether it's the Mets. Are

(08:01):
they gonna trade Pete Alonzo and that'll stay for a while,
But you know, you've got that, You've got the the
different heavyweights. What San Diego does moving forward? Bob Melvin
evidently coming back again, you know, not putting the blame
on him directly, but you know certainly someone's got him
at least on a low heat over there.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
But you go on, can't blame the managers every year
in San Diego. I mean, come on, man, I mean,
how many years are you gonna do that? That's Tangler's fault.
It's not Tigler's fault. It's Melvin's fault. All right, Let's wait,
let's wait before we fire the guy hanging out the
fact that you.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Were able to get the Tangler back in here. You
win a prize at a dollar ninety eight. But you know,
it's it's just that that part of all right, let's
exhale right in Chicago, right my hometown. A lot of
folks still texting, all right, the Cubs collapse. This is
awful trying to say Suzuki's error is now Bartman two
point zero, which I think is an interesting.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, that's that. Yeah, that's a little that's a little much.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
That's a little much, but you know what you're trying
to add on. And and really if folks were I
think as years go on, maybe people look at Bartman
with a clean eye and go, really wasn't his fault?
Look at the prior always lose his mind?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
And its rounds away. You're four outs away from the
world series. This is a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
It's a little bit that we're four outs away from
when he went series in a hundred years a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
But Suzuki's Eric knock out a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
No, but you got but you got your your world
series and now you're into the next era where it's
been suckage and so this was the years like they
get back to the playoffs, and they could look across
the way where the White Sox had whatever expectations, I
didn't have them. It's like, all right, let's just have
some fun here. Uh. And then they lose one hundred games. Uh,

(09:47):
and everybody's pointing fingers and trying to assess blame. So
you know, still falling out of that. You've just got
in all these cities, like what do we do to
be competitive? And the first round of the playoffs is
down officially over forty eight hours. Baby done, Let's go.
I mean, look, some would argue you're not deserved to

(10:07):
be here anyway. Well, you know what, assuming Philadelphia takes
care of Miami. Well let's just assume that for a moment,
you'll have two home teams and two road teams win
in the way. This is structured. So you know, you
got your parody.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
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(10:44):
and it look again we told you last night. In
five years, when the Tampa Bay Rays are playing in
North Carolina or Nashville or Montreal, you're gonna look at
game one of this series where they couldn't get nineteen
thousand people to come to the game as the time
when when everybody in baseball said, let's stop talk about
building a new stadium here, let's get the team out
of Tampa because this is ridiculous. It's the worst optic

(11:06):
in the world that we can't get people to a
game right now. This was the second chance that the
Rays had to try to fill a stadium after a
full day's worth of a we lost. It could be
the last game of the year. And look how embarrassing
it was. There were tickets available. We only drew nineteen
thousand fans and probably less than that. Probably it was
more like around twelve or thirteen thousand, but it was

(11:27):
a little bit creative counting in Tampa. Okay, well here's
the second here's a second game, and all right, we'll
get more people here today. Less than twenty one thousand,
so you had an extra one thousand people who said, Hey,
I want to stand up here and come to the game.
I mean, really, this is what you get for a
team that won ninety nine games and has played pretty well.
You can't fill your stadium more than half for either

(11:49):
of these games. And I get their day games, but
you know what, I look at the attendance and other
games and other teams playing during the day they have
full capacity there at sellouts, and you can't even get
your your stadium half full.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I mean this is where I go.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Really, I mean, you talk about baseball being in different
places and is it feasible and it's no longer feasible
in Oakland? Is it really feasible in Tampa now or
or should now? I'm circling like crazy. If I'm Montreal,
if I'm Nashville, if I'm New Orleans, I am. I
am hanging out outside of Rob Manford's office in New York, going, Hey,
we'd like to talk to you about what we can

(12:24):
do and season tickets that we can guarantee you in
and money we would pay for relocation to get this
team to our city. Because we know what to do.
We are we are ready in baseball mad we want
this to happen. I am doing that tomorrow. If I
am these cities that want a baseball team to say,
yeah they don't want it, we'll sell We'll have people.
We could be forty and one twenty in the last

(12:44):
game of the season. We'll guarantee you a sellout because
people want to come see baseball in our city. Where
here it's yeah, we can't even get halfway full and
we're in the playoffs. Yeah, this is it. I'm kind
of done with baseball here. I'm telling you, if you
want a team and you can guarantee it, hey, you
know what, that's your team to go after. Go after
the race.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
City of Saint Peters Big and Panelas County building a
one point three billion dollar ballpark. That's the agreement with
the Rays, part of a redevelopment of the Tropicana Field site,
an eighty six acre area also known as the quote
Historic gas Plant District blah blah blah, one hundred and
sixty two landing. This is where they made the announcement.

(13:24):
But here's the key, and this is a paragraph that
was forgotten by pretty much everybody when this was announced. Yeah,
they're gonna stay quote. There is a public approval process
that all parties hope to complete by early next year,
including votes from the Saint Pete's City Council the Panellas
County Commission. But this is the first time the Rays

(13:46):
have reached this step in their long running pursuit of
a new ballpark. Gas up the jet boys, we're touching
down in Florida.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh man, I'm telling you get ready to get get
your get your proposals ready, because it could happen for you.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
I think they should meet them at the airport, signs
saying we would let you would look good as an
ex bo with l ready for you.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Ellis valent Hub Brooks is there, We're already, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Reared and the terminator. We're all here. We're ready.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Now you're talking.

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Speaker 1 (14:35):
So I can't go to Tampa ever again, but now
I can go to Montreal and Nashville, and anywhere in
North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
I'm in a clear water in December. Either way, I'm
a hero now. Oh no, they're gonna hate you.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Hey, you're the guy who's on the air with the
guy that said they should take the team away.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Hey, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be
like Taylor Swift at her next NFL game. I'm gonna
wear a fake mustache.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is the number.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I mean, really, after today, can you really say saving
baseball here?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Or are we going to be someplace else?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
In five yere they had a good run coming up next.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
The NFL has had to defend their focus on one
person over the course of the last twenty four hours,
and way do we tell you who it is?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
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(16:22):
outs away from the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Being over in me.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, Arizona's eliminated Milwaukee Craig Council wearing a Mets jersey
in his postgame prescott.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
He was not. He was wearing a Mets robe. Get
it right?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
He was asked the question, Hey, how do you feel
about your team being out here so quickly? And he said,
I think next year Brandon Nimmo has done enough to
prove he should be the leadoff hitter for the Mets.
Oh I'm sorry, Oh oh oh, I'm done with this game.
I'm on to my next job. I'm on to my
next game. I'm on, I'm onto the Mets.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Some suits.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
You already have the giant PowerPoint presentation. It was loaded
up as if Oh, I'm sorry, you weren't supposed to
see that. I was doing all my scouting reports.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And then all the all the all the reporters get mad,
all the Milwaukee reporters get mad and go, come on, man,
how dare you do this? Toss and he cuts mad, says,
you know what, if you don't want me to answer
these questions, I'm out of here. Somebody else can come
in here. And he walks out, and then mister met.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Comes in to sit down.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
He'll answer for me.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
You you can ask my guy the questions. How do
you gonna see mister.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Mett just sitting down the big head, knocking over all
the microphones and he's just putting new reporters to ask
him questions.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Now you got the Mets answering, mister Matt answering questions
for the end of a Brewer's run. A complete takeover
is what you're operating at. I mean, look, they had.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Resident says, I'm taking Bernie Brewer with me, and Bernie
Brewer has got tape around his mouth and he's tired.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Whoa, and they're throwing him in the back of a truck.
Now you've made it into.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
A Liam neesaid movie.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
What are you doing the hand skills? I will find you.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Well, he knows how to lay down a bunt uh
and hit behind the But look back to back games.
They build a lead and then they lose by at
least three runs from the notes that have gone out
from stats and everywhere else. Last team to.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Do that and a two thousand and three Cubs congratulations.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
There you go, coratulations.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
So now, yes, when we have John Paul Morosi on
later on MLB Network, Inside of the Pope, John Paul Morosi,
who was classmates and teammates with David Sterns, new Mets
president at Sternsy in the Pope, right, Stern in the Pope,
which is the morning show somewhere ye have mornings right
now and Ann Arbor, I'm sure we will find out
that that Craig Council will be the Mets manager tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
It happened tomorrow. We're gonna get that from well.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
We might be able to get that exclusive from JP
when he joins us later tonight. So is it a
done deal? Now?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
How about now?

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Is it now?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
JP? Hit refresh, hit refresher, hit refresh, check your phone again. Okay,
how about now? How about now?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So we'll have more baseball on the way. But a
big story that broke this afternoon that just I want
to shake my head and I want to tell the
NFL guys, stop letting social media program your league. The
National Football League has felt the need to defend themselves

(19:16):
for focusing on the Travis Kelce Taylor Swift pop cultural moment.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
All right.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
The NFL has put out a lot of different things
on social media celebrating Taylor Swift being at the Mets game,
being at the Jets Chiefs game on to be hitt
the Mets game, being at the Jets Chiefs game on Sunday,
which again makes me think, really, why was that flag
really thrown on Sauce Gardner, and even Travis Kelcey himself
is saying, hey, the league is overdoing it with its

(19:44):
attention towards their romance. Now we'll get to Travis Kelcey
in a second, but what I want to say is
this NFL again, stop letting social media program what you do.
No one is getting hurt by you show Taylor Swift
at the games. Nobody is mad for any good reason.
It's not like Taylor Swift came to the Jets game

(20:06):
and Chris Collinsworth comes on the air and says, sorry, guys,
we got to postpone the start of this game by
forty five minutes because because Taylor Swift isn't here. Hey, sorry, guys,
We're gonna cut the second quarter short by ten minutes
because Taylor Swift is gonna do a song.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Hey, sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
The game's gonna end middle of the fourth quarter because
Taylor Swift has to leave. You got to make sure
she's safe leaving. There is no enjoyment of the game
that is affected by Taylor Swift because they're showing her
too much in cutaways. She's in too many commercials. What
does it matter? What do you care if she's in
a commercial. If she's cut away, what, oh, you're really upset?

(20:42):
If they show Taylor Swift in a booth, you want
to see some kind of crazy fan. You want to
see another cutaway of fireman ed. You want to see
another Mets, another Jets fan with an airplane on his head?
What are you really mad about? The people who are
mad about this are just people who wake up every
day mad and that look that then that's a thing
in this country, right, we wake up matter. Everybody's much
more mad every day than they can be. The spread

(21:03):
of social media news is more and more negative every day.
But there's no real reason for people to be mad
about the attention on Taylor Swift. No one's getting hurt,
no one's losing money.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
You're in.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Your enjoyment of a game is not affected. You get
to see everything you want to. What does it matter
if they talk about your song lyrics?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (21:21):
What?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
What do you care what they talk about during a game? Well?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I don't understand why the NFL would koutout of people
just because on social media you have people that just
want to say I want to hate this, Why because
I just do?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Why because I do do? You have a reason. No,
I just do. I want to watch a football game.
You get to watch the football game, but I want
to watch you without Taylor Swift. You want to watch
without commercials too? Oh I'd loved it.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Well, sorry, we can't do that. You know, I don't
see you saying, hey, there's too many commercials. I'm not
going to watch the NFL game. I wish the NFL.
I really don't want to see flow from Progressive anymore.
I like Doctor Rick. Doctor Rick is funny. Flow is not.
Why do they keep showing me flow? I want the
NFL to tell me why Flow from Progressive is on
and not Rick. Do we really need forty seven pictures
of fun dinner at PAMs? The answer is no. I mean,

(22:04):
this is just it doesn't make sense why the NFL
would want to feel they have to back up and
defend their involvement with this. The NFL puts out a
statement about the bios on Twitter and what they do
and saying, hey, this is what we're trying to do
with Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
It's a fun thing. I really I see this and
I go.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
People are just gonna hate everything, and sometimes outcry on
social media is a good thing, and it's something that
goes forward because there's a system of checks and balances
that sometimes don't happen, whether it's legally or in the
public eye, and social media will do that for you.
But then there's sometimes where there's just a story that
doesn't make sense because people who want to be upset

(22:43):
just want to be upset. This is one of those
times there's no no one has any state, no one
has any real reason to be mad other than just
I'm mad, and I'm focusing my attention on being mad
because they show Taylor Swift too many times.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's nonsensical.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, flow Jake from State Farm, the general. I'm just
talking TV in general now. But sure you go down
the ads you don't like them, don't watch. I mean,
that's it. They should have responded just with the Kawhi
Leonard instead of you know, really going and saying, well,
we're sorry, but this is the way our business works.

(23:18):
You have to understand, like, no, Blake, you you don't
like it, go do something else with your life. Like
we're catering and we're trying to bring more people to
the table, more eyeballs.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
I was reminded I was reading an article the other day, Right,
they got this desert trip thing hanging out here on
the site of Coachello with all the old metal bands
coming up this weekend. Right, so Guns N' Roses and
Judas Priest and Iron Maiden tools on the bill. Originally
Ozzy was but he wasn't up for it, and then
you have Metallica, And I was reading an interview with

(23:49):
Lars Ulric James Hetfield, right, some of the quotes like,
look at this point when they got their run from
Stranger Things, people were mad. They're like, we're happy new
fans are finding us, and forty years later they still
give a damn With the NFL, it's hey, here's a
segment of the population that we might not have connected with.
And whether it's through TikTok that folks are grabbing videos, Instagram,

(24:14):
acts and Twitter or watching the game just directly, we're
getting more engagement than we have from certain segmentations. That's
good for business, that's good for everybody. And I don't
understand why you'd go out of your way to send
a half assed kind of statement, almost reading like an

(24:35):
apology to these dopes and old heads in our business.
Because there's plenty of them, right, and y'all know who
I'm talking about, screaming to where their veins are popping
out of their heads like this is the worst act perpetrator.
How about you go and complain more about McDaniel's play calling,
how about Brandon Staley and his decisions? Oh, you'd have

(24:56):
to watch a game instead of reacting to a headline.
Oh you know, you go on down the line. It's
just a bunch of uh you know. And the NFL
makes it share of mistakes. This is not one of them.
This is certainly not one of them. This is good
for business, good for America. The Kelsey's addressing it on
their podcast today, they sounded like a couple of dopes too.

(25:19):
You guys win from this. You guys all win from this,
especially you, Travis eight hundred plus thousand new Instagram followers,
sixty six percent of every Jersey sold goes into your
old pocket.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Shut up, Well that's the thing, because I agree with you,
because here's you mentioned. Here's Travis Kelcey and Jason Kelcey
from their podcast today saying, yeah, maybe the NFL is
overdoing it a little bit with the attention on Taylor
Swift and Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Is the NFL overdoing it? What is your honest opinion?
Everybody was just like overwhelming for Taylor. What is your
honest opinion on how the NFL is treating celebrity at games.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I think it's fun when they show who all is
at the game, you know, I think, uh, I think
it brings a little bit more to the atmosphere, brings
a little bit more to to what you're watching. But
at the same time, I think.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Uh, they're overdoing it.

Speaker 7 (26:13):
They're they're overdoing it a little bit for sure, especially
my situation right, I think they're they're just trying to
have fun with it, and a lot of a lot
of the people watching go ahead, let's hear it.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
I just think the NFL is not used to celebrities
coming to the games. Like basketball has to figure it out.
They're all court side, they're sitting there. They show them
once or twice and then and then but they get
back to the game. The NFL is like, look at
all these days celebrities to the game. Keep showing them,
show them, show them, show them, dude, Listen, you show
them once, let them know they're there. Maybe after a
touchdown you get a little clip, but you can't can't

(26:43):
be overboard with it.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
People are there to watch the game, right, yeah, They're
not there to get thrown on TV.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Okay, all right, let's stop it.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
All that you ever hear about Reynolds or Jackman or
Blake Lively referenced.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
It all, all of that is just stupid.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, Jason Kelce, what is it if they're showing the
people again, know, they're not showing people and like, oh,
sorry you missed that touchdown. We wanted to show you
Taylor Swift, but boy, what a great play by Ceedee Lamb.
That was an unbelievable catch and sorry you missed it live.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
That's just stupid.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
And for Travis Kelsey to say they're overdoing it, that's
just stupid too, Because you know what, I didn't hear
Travis Kelsey say, hey, stay out of my personal life
when his Jersey sales were up four hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
And tell her not to come.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And his podcast was the number one podcast on iTunes
and whatever money, the money he is making in the
relevancy and the social media followers he is getting, I
didn't see him saying anything about, hey, hey, this is
my personal life. No, no, no, you embraced it. It
was helping you, and now there's a little bit of backlash.
And oh, another person, another couple of people that can't

(27:46):
stand when people criticize them on social media.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I always say, if.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You can't take people telling you you suck, get off
of social media. So now here's Travis Kelsey and Jason
Kelsey want to go. Wait, wait, we think the NFL
is overdoing it a little bit more to no. No, no,
it's fine for you when it benefited you, and now
you're getting a little bit of backlash and now you
tell people to stop. No, no, no, can't have it
both ways. This is something going on. If you're for it,
you're for it. If you're against it, you're against it.

(28:11):
But there's really no reason to be against it the
NFL again, NFL, don't let social media program in the league.
Travis Kelcey just be quiet at this point, Just say hey,
whatever you want to say, but don't sit here and
tell me all now you guys are going overboard with
it because this is a fake outrage.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
All of this is just fake.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's just it's just people want to be upset about
something and it drives me crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Because it's not a real controversy. It's just, oh, hey,
look at all these people on social media. Look what's happening.
People are saying this as any coverage of the NFL
being effective. No it's not.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Oh but let's apologize this whole thing. It's all fake, fake,
Mike Harmon fake.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
But again, I mean, what are the numbers for their
podcasts the last couple of weeks since this became a
reality as people try to quote get to know Travis
Kelce Because it works both ways, right, you got some
football people that may just know the name and know
that the tour was a hot commodity ticketmaster, blah blah blah,

(29:06):
and you move on. So you get to a little
bit of the learning of the space and maybe you
can tailor an extra column or a segment on a podcast,
I don't know, record a video that's directed to those
not being condescending, as I've seen so many try to do,
because you know, the assumption that there's not a some
level of cross section between swifties, you know, like me

(29:27):
and the football loving world, you know, like I've made
a living talking about for the last twenty five years,
that you know that those people don't exist. I mean,
that's insulting on a whole other level. But you know,
for Travis Kelcey, he's benefited a ton and it's not
like they sat and went through a deep dive every time.
It's like, hey, let's take another look at what Ryan

(29:48):
Reynolds is doing. Now, Now that was a social media
decided to have fun with him. He's got the face
of a guy whose fantasy team is about to go
h and four and there's Hugh Jackman. And then it
gave people an opportunity to talk about Hugh Jackman being out,
you know, with friends, in the midst of what's going
on in his personal life and what's going on with

(30:09):
Wolverine and getting back to that, all of those things.
But it's all about one a lister on a higher
I mean, it's the giant, blinking, star spangled, silver studded
in you know, diamond encrusted a that you're talking about
with Taylor Swift. And they leaned into it and then
they went right back to the next play. Harry goes

(30:30):
he breaks down the sideline up. I think she just
took a sip out of the cup. Anybody want to
guess what's in there. No, I didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Oh by the way, sorry, Hey, there goes McCaffrey ten
to five touchdown. Wow, Niners win. On the final play
of the game.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
It is an eight player lateral and Kristin McCaffrey goes
over the top for a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
But look at Taylor Swift. Look how excited? I mean, really, Jason.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
I didn't go back and do the count, but I
would imagine of the seventeen looks that she got right
because that was the official over under. Uh it came
in at seventeen. How many of those were before the
Jets woke up and actually made it a game.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, once that became a game, hey, they were way less.
It was a lot in the beginning, know what.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
I mean, Like as soon as it becomes a blowout,
it's like, hey, let's go look at something more interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah oh wait, wait, but but now it's a game,
and you saw it a lot less. Well, and you
also saw it a lot less because Kelsey didn't have
a great gain himself, so it was hard to show.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
It's like, we're waiting.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
He's kind I mean, he caught two passes in the
first drive, and I'm like, how come you're not showing
Taylor Swift now, then they decide, oh, now we got
a show her, and then they couldn't show her, get it.
Then they could have showed her even more if they
wanted to, and they missed a couple of chances early.
I mean, it's it's just a it's a fake outrage.
It's a fake controversy. And the NFL and Travis Kelsey, Oh,
let let's let let's see. Let let me fall victim

(31:46):
to what people are saying on Twitter to what to
what jump? And knucklehead Billy oh four seven four four
has to say about this because he's got an egg
as his profile and boy he's really mad about Taylor Swift.
I mean, I mean it, people, let social media just
program way too much Twitter and how about a fresco
Mike gets swollen dome as I give our Twitter accounts
here x Orry x x X.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
You don't want me to talk about the look, I
get a lot of fishing as her name comes out.
I'm going away. You'll be back like before. Oh wait,
Hamilton was a couple of years ago. I can't do
those references now.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
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Speaker 3 (32:30):
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Speaker 1 (32:33):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon,
Live from the ti Raq dot Com studios. We got
more baseball coming up in a few minutes. Wait to
hear where Craig Council like to say following the Brewers elimination.
But the more time goes on, you know, we make
a lot of bold predictions here on the show because
it's fun to do. It's fun to try to tell

(32:53):
the future and what we detect and what we see
and what we can glean from situations. And one of
the big bold predictions we've given you for a while
is this is gonna be it for Bill Belichick in
New England, Like this year is going to be it.
Bob Craft basically put him on notice in the offseason,
and it's not getting better. Yes, they were able to

(33:13):
beat the Jets because they always beat the Jets, but
they can't play the Jets seventeen times. It's been embarrassing.
Last week was embarrassing. And today you get the story
from an unnamed NFL executive that said, hey, the Patriots
are using mac Jones all wrong. Everything he did well
in college, they are not allowing him to do in
the NFL. They're trying to make him fit into their

(33:34):
system and it's not working. And this is something that
is both stunning and shocking when you realize the level
of excellence the Patriots have had over the past twenty years,
well up until Tom Brady left. Wait, you're gonna bring
a guy in and not design your system around him
and make him fit into what you want to do
and not give the guy an offensive coordinator?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And this is what the Patriots are doing. And Bill
Belichick has lost his fastball. He's not the same coach.
It's not that just hey, we lost Tom Brady. It's
these personnel decisions. Nothing makes sense. And if it was
any other coach making these decisions, Mike, it would be
this guy needs to be fired. But the more time,
the more stories like this to come out that hey,

(34:16):
they're not using him in the right system and mac
Jones is not being taken advantage of. I kind of
look at Belichick like I looked at the situation with
Jim Beheim last year, where Beaheim's a Hall of Fame
coach and one of the best to ever do it,
and he gets pushed out at the end of the
year because he decides to get a little chesty with
it's my decision when I leave. And then two months

(34:36):
later he was out and Adrian Autry, longtime assistant, comes
in and somebody wrote something about him a and Syracuse
website the other day that sticks with me by when
they said, hey, and now you know, Syracuse will have
a little bit more of an up to date and
current model and be more modern day with how they

(34:57):
approach things, because look, Beaheim had one way to do things.
He did it that way since nineteen seventy six. So now, yeah,
it is a new era for Syracuse and a new
coach to do things more modern ways, which is only
going to help.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
And I think, okay, all.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Right, any kind of nervous as I had about Bejim
not being there, I'm kind of done with that now.
And I feel like that's the same thing with Belichick,
is that he's been doing things one way for a
really long time, and you wonder just how much has
the NFL passed them by, And maybe Girod Meyo is
the guy to come in with new attitudes and new
desires and new ways to look at things and a

(35:31):
new way to be more modern than the NFL. And
maybe that's how we should be looking at Bill Belichick.
Not that the way of hey, I just want to
win despite everybody and do it my way, but just
maybe the NFL's kind of passed them by at this point.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I think some of it. And you know, you look
around and we've long talked about it here. You can
coach pretty well, you can't evaluate talent to build the roster.
So like last year, I argued it was arguably his
best coaching job he ever did because the person so now,
at no point did you say that's a win there,
that's a win there. Okay, you had judon whatever, but

(36:07):
you didn't have a lot of talent on that squad, right,
and you're the guy that's picking the groceries the old
parcels line. So yeah, they're gonna be just good enough
to be mid again. And the mac Jones thing, we've
talked about quite a bit of wondering where the ceiling is,
how much is him? And you would have thought bringing
Bill O'Brien in which is funny because I'm thinking about

(36:29):
Houston and what they're building there with Demico Ryance right now,
and start contrast right what Bill O'Brien was once upon
a time as a coordinator. I just don't know that
you have the guys that you can really fully take
advantage of what Mac Jones did well back when he
was at Alabama Mack all those years ago, or seemingly

(36:50):
all those years ago. So yeah, it's that tough spot.
But now that is the talking point. How ugly does
it get or does it have to be? Because you
get drum by Dallas, but you're hanging around with everybody else,
So how bad are you? We'll find out if Dallas
gets drummed by San Francisco, it's gonna look a lot worse.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine out Fox is the number.
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon X at how about a Fresca
X at Swollen Dome. We have more NFL on the way,
But boy, do we reflect like lunatics at what happened
in Major League Baseball tonight.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
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