December 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith throws out three possibilities for Tua Tagovailoa
1) He's Kirk Cousins & backs up whoever is Miami's starter next year.
2) Straight up trade for Kyler Murray. An exchange of problems.
3) Rams swing a crazy trade (their specialty) and he backs up Matthew Stafford until he takes over.
Plus, will the Knicks eventually hang the NBA Cup Championship banner at Madison Square Garden?
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New York Knicks win the E Cup. I've been drunk
all day. It just sobered up for the coffee that
I went to Trader Jose. I got one of those
things where it's just like straight espresso down that I
am ready for tonight. Did you just drink the cold
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grew concentrate. Just that's what it was a man. Instead
of diluting it like you're supposed to hell with it,
I'm just going straight concentrate many through it. Man. I
had to be ready for the show man good man. Hey,
And in part of my hayese are the Bears moving
to Indiana? Yeah? Is that a real story? No, that's
been a real story for a long time. They bought
that swap of land like they've got land all over
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That's one of the things that's been strolling in the
background for a long time. I'm all not leveraging the
city and that horrible, horrible field that they've been playing on,
a sacred ground in terms of what a stadium. Once
upon a time was the Great Soldier Field, and then
they put that toilet bowl over the top of it,
but handled by the park District, one of the worst
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surfaces you'll ever play a football game on, or watch
people play a football game on. So, yeah, trying to
leverage the city to put some money towards things, well,
I gotta say, if you were gonna move to Indiana
to play football, now's the time. It's never been better
than it. Is in India. I mean, come on, they're
in the They're in the playoff of the number one
team in the country. I mean, come on, this is
when you go to Indiana. This is go to New York.
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The New York team stink. I'm not going to We're
going to Indiana. That's what. Well, at least the Colts
have drifted back, so you would be number two in
the state right now. Ah well, yeah, Sycamores don't feel
the team, do they? No, I don't. I don't think
you can. You already have so much a Larry Bird
and Kreem Abdul Jabbar, but I no, I think you
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would probably boy Indiana. They would have to go all
the way. But it's still the NFL. No, they would
fight the Indoe Hoosiers for number one in the state.
They would fight Indy, the Indiana Bears. It already rolls
off the tongue, Indiana Bears, Indiana Bears rolls off the table.
It would have to be you know, wherever they end
up setting up shop and it's like some sub section. Yeah,
it's it's crazy, but yeah, that is going on, and
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it's been part of the All right, let's use whatever
leverage we can buy some land. Nothing else. Lands appreciating
in value, so it sound investment. So there you go.
There's your investment advice in three minutes after the hour.
But yeah, it's Hoosier's day here at Soldier Field. He
get a free Indiana Hoosiers replica Mendoza Jersey. I can't
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say his whole name because then we'd have to pay
him money. But get your replica Mendoza Jersey here at
the game odd Sunday. Yeah, it is some mex level stuff.
So that's one of the stories swirling in the background
of Packers week.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Out.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, that's one of the greats the
Bear I mean, look, this has been a great upping
the anti story over the course of the past few years.
And now that look, this is the biggest game the
Bears have had at home in a long time, right,
this Saturday game against Green Bay, who's basically going to
decide the NFC North and decide, you know, they could
finish this highest second in the in the NFC this year.
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This is when CEO Kevin Warren says, oh yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, hey,
you know we could move and we could move entirely
out of Illinois. They're looking outside of Cook County. They're
looking at the big property in Arlington Nights and potentially
northwest Indiana. I mean, that's just awesome. I like how
he says it's not about leverage now, it really is
about you're not gonna move You're really gonna move the
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Bears to Indiana. It's gonna be the Indiana. But come on, man,
you're not moving the Bears. And it is all about
leverage and where you you've had opportunity, and you look
in the area just up and down the highway there,
it's a nice short drive. You mentioned Purdue there Justice,
So like all of that to say, uh yeah, when
you're winning, it's a lot easier to go back to
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a city state and just say, hey, what do we
got on the table here, because you know, we got
a lot of options. And right now we're really popular
with this you know, good better, best coach and a
second year quarterback that people are starting to fall in
love with a little bit and the brand is at
its peak since nineteen eighty five. So yeah, it's exciting times.
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But yeah, you gotta leverage this for every bit that
you can. I mean, it's like whenever there's an opening.
You know, no matter where you work, if there's an
opening that suddenly avails itself, you have to raise your
hand and say, hey, what do I got? Oh I
get to we gotta bring Brent Musburger out of a
time to say you are looking live at Kevin Warren
Field here in Indiana as the Indiana Bears hosts the
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Green Bay Packers. Yeah, I mean funny because if you
listen to a Bear's broadcast, there are advertisers and businesses
from northwest Indiana, and that's part of the a's part
of the broadcast. So this doesn't come out of the blues.
So folks that think this is just kind of like
a random Okay, it's Midwest, they're near blah blah. No, no, no, no,
there's advertising dollars that have already been exchanged and promotions
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for cities in Indiana for a long time. So yeah,
it's it's it's timing, man. You gotta strike while the
iron's hot, man, I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, look, a plethora of big football stories tonight. You know,
Joe Burrow is leaving more crumbs. He wants out, and
I really feel like he really does want out. Patrick
Mahomes wants to be back week one. But yeah, sometimes
in the world we live in now, the you become
the news. Right and right now this hour here, Fox
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Sports Radio is big time in the news. Is our
colleague here for better part of the last ten years.
Doug Gottlieb has announced he is leaving Fox Sports Radio
and he is gonna, you know, just concentrate more full
time on coaching the Green Bay Phoenix. You know, the
last couple of years Doug's been doing both really cut
through the clutter. It was. It was incredible endeavor for
him to undertake to do a daily sports talk radio
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show and coach the Green Bay Phoenix. Doug just making
that announcement a few minutes ago that he is gonna
have his last show I think on Friday, and then uh,
you know, gonna continue on to do his podcast, but
uh obviously devoting even more of his time to the
Green Bay Phoenix. Now this story is is uh, look,
it's been really incredible to watch and follow this over
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the course of the last you know, couple of years
that it's been. But as far as this ending, I
I this was sort of we'd we talked about it
when it happened. I felt like it was sort of
inevitable that it's sometime he was gonna have to choose, right, Like,
sometime he was gonna have to choose. I either stay
at Fox Sports Radio and do what I've been doing
for a long time and continue to be a you know,
a newsmaker and an opinion giver and and and everything else,
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or I was gonna have to choose. I gotta pick
full time and and and and donate all of my
time to coaching, like to do like for for a
team like Green Bay. Because you think about it from
their perspective. When this came out, this is a really
controversial topic, and it was, okay, if Doug was leaving
to coach UCLA or Michigan or Indiana or someplace, and okay,
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wait a minute, you're gonna do a full time radio
show and coach this high lofe d one. Okay, Okay,
I don't know about that, but here's here's here's Green
Bay and getting Doug who's been a big national voice
for the last you know, twenty some odd years. Uh,
you know, doing games and being on the radio and
on TV. Uh. You know that that's a coup right, Hey,
we got somebody that's got a big national personality. It
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will help recruiting, it's gonna help visibility, it will help
all of this. So I get, you know, when we
talked about it, when it happened, I get why both
sides were in for it. Right, Fox is in for Hey,
we got he's gonna coach, He's gonna do the show.
It helps us, you know, everybody kind of wins. As
long as Doug can do it. It's a lot to
take it, take that responsibility, even though as he said,
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you know, it's two hours in the middle of the day.
I can fit it in. I can do it a
couple of things. The way he said it, I don't
know that I would have said it quite that way,
but I get what he was saying. Yeah, I can
do the show, and I can and I can still
coach because it's it's it's downtime for me during the day.
So I get it. And it's been a fascinating thing
to watch. But I always felt that eventually he was
gonna have to choose whether it was hey, uh, one
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of the sides making him choose, or he was going
to realize that, Wow, you know, I'm not twenty five,
and the endless amounts of energy that I had the
first year plus doing this, that kind of goes away, right.
It's like, you know, I look at my daughter who
is talking about now flirting with the idea of going
to the East Coast for college, and I'm like, okay,
go oh, I love the fall. I go, yeah, okay.
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Let me just tell you something here. The fall is great,
and the fall is great, and I know that you
love the winter. Your experience with the winter has been
one week at Christmas and we fly home. Yeah, And
she said, no, I know that, but I would. I said, yeah, No,
here's what's gonna happen. You're gonna love the weather for
the first two weeks, maybe the first month. It's gonna
hit November, whether you're in Syracuse or New York or NYU,
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whatever you want to go, go and it's gonna be great.
And then December is gonna come and it's gonna be
cold and slushy and sleet and rain every day. And
this is gonna happen for December, January, February, March, and
then April's gonna come and you're gonna say, hey, we
got a couple of sunny days. This is great, the
weather is changing, and then you're gonna get four feet
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of snow sometime at the end of April. You don't
understand that. I know it sounds great and you can
you're full of energy now, but trust me, I grew
up there, I lived there. It's it gets to you
after the first couple of months when the fall is
very short, and you know, to a different extent, like
with Doug, it's like, hey, to devote this kind of energy.
And you know, he talked a lot about his family
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as well, and and having to fit them in. When
is when is when his kids come to see him?
Eventually you were gonna have to make a choice, like
we You know, he's done this for a couple of
years and it came time to Okay, I have to choose.
His team is pretty good, you know. I could tell
just by talking to him and doing shows together that
we've done in the past, everything. You know, Look, he
loves doing what he's doing. He loves this. Coaching lights
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him up, man, and I get it. Look as the
youth coach I was, I get coaching lights you up.
But it just absolutely light him up. And he coach
coach all the time. He would go to Israel and
would still do his Fox Sports radio show and he's
doing the Maccabi game and all kinds of stuff. So
I get it, But I so I always felt like
at some point he was going to have to choose,
and he chose the Phoenix, and he chose his kids
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that he's coaching, and you know, best of luck to
him with that. I want him to succeed. I want
to see the Phoenix in the tournament. I want to
see him throw more chairs. So we could talk about him.
It's it's you know, I'm happy for him. I'm happy
for this choice, and I know it must have been
difficult and a hard thing to do and to say
at this point, this is when I have to walk away.
But again, his team is pretty good. Just beat Calcanda Barber,
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they won a few games, so this was the time
to make that call, which again I thought would happened
at some point five and two in their last seven
and starting to get a little bit of momentum. Obviously,
we talked about the chair throwing in that near miss
in the final minutes, right an opportunity to really push ahead,
and you know, you could see the emotion because it's
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two loves, right, And oh, I think we lost in
there for a second. Oh, we'll get him back in
a second. Jason Smith MI Carmen Live from the Fox
Sports Radio Studios. Yeah, it's it. And you know, Harmon
gets in that point there about saying, yeah, you have
two things that you love, and it's okay to love
a couple of things, right, It's okay to love two things.
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But when you realize that hosting a full time sports
talk radio show, that's a full time job for everybody, right,
And then when you're hosting a when you're coaching Division
I college sports, that's a full time job for everybody.
I get that you can love both of them. You can,
you can love a lot of things, and I completely
get that, But again, you only have so many hours
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in the day, and you know, when you're into your
you know, I think Doug's in his late forties now,
I think he's a couple of years younger than I am.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, that that uh, that energy reservoir, doesn't You don't
quite bounce back as well as as you normally did
when you know, you know, you don't do that anymore.
But that's just it eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox Jason Smith Mike Carmen live from the Fox Sports
Radio studio. So best of luck to Doug again. This
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about it throughout the show tonight. But coming up next,
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an official benching in the NFL for one quarterback and
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say I want out of my current situation. That's next
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way tire buying should be. Well, big stuff out of
the NFL today. Look, we'll get to Puka Nakua ripping
the referees. But I'll tell you what live stream Live
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to right now. Number one, Well, we talked about it
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on Monday night, said it should happen. It was talked
about yesterday like it was going to happen, and officially
it happened today. Tua Tongue of Iloa, the three day
odyssey of him? Will he still be the quarterback of
the Dolphins. He has been benched for this weekend's game
by head coach Mike McDaniel. Quinn yours six round draft
pick out of Texas. We'll start passing over Zach Wilson. Sorry,
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Zach Wilson, I'm sorry. And if he sucks, Marina we'll
get the start. Yeah. Sure, yeah, Jay Fiedler, Yeah, they
got a whole bunch of guys ready to go. Wow,
go Feedler, Feeley, keep going down the line. So Tua
is benched, and and quite honestly, by benching Tua, you
have announced the end of the Tua Toungueo vloa era
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as a starter in Miami. You don't go back after
benching him. This is not one of those Hey, he's
not right, he's not healthy, he needs to sit. He
needs to get better. This is the quarterback position is
not giving us what we need, so we need to
move on. You don't get your job back after you
get benched like this. You only find a way to
be a backup or move on someplace else. Now, for Tua,
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yesterday we told you that, hey, the best straight up
trade one on one would be with the Arizona Cardinals, right,
because you can make the money work. Teams are exchanging
problems for other problems. Getting the better quarterback would be
the Dolphins, but they'd have to pay Kyler Murray a
little bit more than the Cardinals would have to pay Tua.
Tua and Jacoby Brissett would be a complete locker room.
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Maybe it's a change of scenery, but there is a
lot of money at stake for this. But you talk
about two teams that need to move on from quarterbacks,
might pick so high, might not like some of the
guys in the draft. Hey, that works for Tua. But
two other situations right, One we only briefly touched on
yesterday is that if it gets bad, right, and clearly,
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Tua has not done a lot to show everybody that, oh, hey,
he could be the answer. Like it looks a lot
like Kirk Cousins and the Falcons where they couldn't move
on from him. He wouldn't take less money and he
had to back up Michael Pennick Junior until Penix got hurt.
And now Kirk Cousins is playing and he's playing pretty well.
Maybe he jumpstarts his career and after this year teams
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will be okay with taking on two years of his
salary to come in and be a bridge type quarterback.
Maybe that could happens. Been a big year for Kirk Cousins.
But trying to move Kirk Cousins, remember the end of
last year, he lost his job, he was benched and
Michael Pennock Junior came in. He knew he was gonna
be the guy coming in if you couldn't find a
way to figure out the money, and you always can
figure out the money. This was Kirk Cousins digging in
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and the Falcons digging in because the Falcons don't want
to They're not gonna for one second let it be
known they made a bad decision by signing Kirk Cousins
and drafting Michael Pennick Junior. They are gonna just continue
to die on that hill that we did the right
thing with these two quarterbacks, and that it looks like
they may have no quarterbacks because Michael Pennick Junior hasn't
been good and he's been injured. So this could wind
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up being a big possibility for the Dolphins. Is that, Yeah,
you have Tua who is not gonna be the starter anymore,
and maybe Quinn Ewers lights it up the next couple
of games and he comes in to get kind of
projected to be a little Justin Herbert esque when he
was in college. Now, clearly you gotta wait and see
how it goes. But either that or it's somebody else
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in free agency, or it's somebody in the draft it's
a first round pick and or it's nuss Meyer, or
it's somebody early second round that comes in and gets
the job, and Tua is the highest priced backup in
the NFL for at least this next year. So I
could really see a scenario in which Tua winds up
staying with the Dolphins as the backup quarterback because hey,
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Kirk Cousins was a pro right, there were no real problem.
We didn't hear about problems he's causing behind the scenes.
With Atlanta this year. There was none of that. He
was fine. They manage a situation as much as it
could be. And Tua is like that too. He's a pro.
He may not like it, but he's not somebody's going
to try to make waves. He kind of is like
a Russell Wilson esquhere. Hey, I'm always trying to do
the right thing. I want the right image of me
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out there, and I want to do the right thing.
So I have no doubt that he would handle it
as best as he could. But that's a real possibility.
Might because you look at what his capt is the
next couple of years, and you're coming off being bench,
not just we got another guy. It's it's not Sam
Darnell coming off of forty touchdowns where hey, I got
this is Tua coming off of being bench. That's a possibility, yeah.
I mean the only thing that comes to it when
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you look at the dollars and cents is whether they
just decide to go to the Russell Wilson route and
just take the poison pill and move on, just recognizing
the next couple of years will be miserable in theory
because you have such a restrictive cap hit. I mean,
you see the number that have been floated about, right,
it's pre June first reduces the dead cap to forty
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five million. Otherwise we're looking at almost one hundred million
dollars that's on the table here with TUA. And that's why,
you know, if I'm going back to your scenario of
the Kyler Murray trade, which is this fun in theory,
I get the far worst guy and I'm still on
the hook for a ton of money for next and yeah,
no I'm out. But it's just the idea in Miami.
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I remember Quinn Ewers was the guy that kept arch
Manning on the bench, So I mean, there's something there.
Unless there's not, I don't know. But he got to Cincinnati.
They can't stop the you know, our show, and five
or six other guys. I mean, that's that defense is
no good. So you got an opportunity to at least
put something decent on on paper here, and then you
got Tampa Bay. Their secondary has been terrible. So the
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next two weeks you at least have some opportunities for
McDaniel to show that he can do the job with
the next guy up, because that's the other domino that
can still fall in all of this. I mean, I
don't know how much he had saved versus coming down
from on top. Right, you got a power vacuum in
terms of your GM that you fired mid season, so
you're trying to figure out what the next steps are forward,
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and it's sounded and looked like maybe McDaniel would would
stay and get a stay of execution, but the next
three weeks might just be all right, we're just turning
the page altogether. So you got that part in there.
Season finale is on the road at New England. But
for the TUA situation, just from a money perspective, trying
to find anybody to take on any portion of that
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salary is just not going to work. Like, this isn't
a third year that you're moving on from the guy, right,
this is this is year six, right, this is who
he is at this point in terms of how he operates.
Co Sell and I have talked about it a lot,
and his tape review NFL Films Greg coach Sell and
I on our Sunday mornings. It's like, it's all timing, right,
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It's all timing patterns. It's not Hey, I can drive
the ball in and make a big throw, a big play.
It's it's a lesser version of the Russell Wilson moon ball.
To go back to the you know Russell Wilson from
an economic standpoint, but also from a playing standpoint. You know,
once upon a time Russ can at least drive that down,
and he can also make some plays with his legs. Well,
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Tua just runs into trouble more than anything. And we
talked about it on Monday night against the Steelers. The
number of sacks that he took that were just inexplicable
in an obvious throw the damn ball out of bound situations.
So you know, those decisions in addition to just throwing
the ball the interception was unconscionable. I mean the number
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of turnovers he's made over the coach of the year.
Normally we could pick a pick and choose through all
right off the receiver's hands. Off this virtually all of
them are his fault and bad reads and bad decision making.
And now with that level of financial responsibility to it,
it's it puts Miami in absolute hell trying to figure
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out what to do going forward. Jason Smith Mike Harmon
Lot from the Fox Sports Radio studio sor right, what
do you got on this Frostburg Jason on a scale
from one to sixty seven? Yeah? Okay, are you for
two on the Jets? Come on a no, that's his
landing spot. Listen, listen, listen. I'm not trying to get
like three great years out of that. When I says great,
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I mean for us, not you. Content No, no, for us,
not you. Yeah. The fact that the Dolphins would trade
to it of the Jets in division tells you what
they think of him and how how good they think
he's going to be. Oh, I will trade with the Jets.
What do you want. We won't take anything you promised
to start him for the next three years. We'll trade
him to you. We won't even take anything from you. Hey,
two and oh I just clinched just being two and
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oh against the Jets the next three years. There we go.
Check that off. I'm GM of the year. Everybody, Well,
I mean you also, you get a statue immediately. What
were I was the interim GM? This got me a
seven year deal because I was able to keep him
in division. Ah, you don't let it. Oh, you get
can you imagine? Like you know it's one of those
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dinner parties in the off season, you're hanging out with
UH with Brandon bean and and UH and and Vrabel
and they're like, hey, great move you got thanks for
doing that and keeping them in condivision. Man, that's great.
We're gonna be two and h against him every year. No,
you did, you did great. You think he couldn't throw
the football in the cold? Wait, he tried to throw
the football at MetLife all those times. Oh, that's gonna
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be fantastic. No, great, but you guys are great. But
we talked about it yesterday. That was the only part
of the trade to Arizona I liked was the idea that, well,
at least he's in a dome and most and all
the division games will be on the West coast, right exactly,
And that's a big thing. Right. There was all these
reasons why, No, he's still terrible. It doesn't. But it's
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an extra. But when you when you have two quarterbacks
that are making all that money, it's an exchange of problems.
You know, it's not working for Kyler and Arizona not
working for two in Miami. Maybe it works the other way.
Either way, you're still on the hook for this money.
You're still paying somebody at least you could pay somebody else, uh,
you know, to come in and maybe it's different. Maybe
it works, if it doesn't, Okay, you tried, right, But
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I would just look around and say, all right, we
need a couple of defenders. Can Kyler do that? Because
that ain't his fault. But let's let me throw this
one out here for me too, because this is a
team's absolute specialty. Okay, Now again, you have to figure
the money out, and if you're motivated enough, there's always
a way to figure the money out. How about this,
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Because it's their team's specialty to make crazy trades that
go against the norm, that bring in high priced guys.
And I've wondered for the past seven eight years how
they continue to bring in these high priced vets for
short term and turn them around and still stay under
the cap and are able to compete and be the
best team overall in the NFL the last seven or
(25:45):
eight years. But it is a typical Sean McVay thing
to do for the Rams, to say, you know what,
I'm a quarterback guru. I can make it work with
a lot of guys. Right. Remember Baker Mayfield was here
he went and lug at all the money he's getting
with with with Tampa. Right, I had him here, Right,
Matthew Stafford was someone nobody wanted in Detroit. It was
(26:06):
aw Stafford's terrible, all that bloated salary. Now all of
a sudden, no, wait a minute, Matthew Stafford might be
the best quarterback in the NFL. It's gonna win MVP
this year. But that is a typical thing to do
for Sean McVay. And again, it's about the challenge of
doing something like this because look, everybody's human and everybody
wants to be able to say, hey, that's a challenge
(26:27):
for me. We have seen too a flash. It's not
like we haven't seen him play well or we've seen
him at four thousand yard seasons. You know, we've seen
him be able to do that. But he comes in,
they figure out a trade, they figure out the money.
It's not going to be a lot of uh, you know,
it's not gonna be a lot of draft capital going
one way or the other. But they figure out the
money and Tua comes in and he sits, and he
(26:47):
sits behind Matthew Stafford until he retires, and then Tua
just assimilates into the role of starting quarterback, because where
else the Ram's gonna get a guy outside of taking
someone late in the draft that you're gonna have to
groom anyway. Tua is twenty five, so if he sits
until he's twenty seven, twenty okay. They got Matthew Stafford
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when he was thirty three years old, right, I think
they're okay with Tua. If he took over a twenty
eight or twenty nine, it's not like he's got to
worry about losing a lot of speed.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's like Philip Rivers and everybody speed to begin with.
But that would be a typical La Rams swing for
the fences. We have our quarterback. It also puts pressure
on Matthew Stafford after every year to go, hey, I
may retire, I want more money. I may retire. I
want more money, because you know they're kind of sick
of that. And if you thought you were done with
it after last year, oh wait, do you see after
he wins MVP this year what he wants for a
(27:37):
new deal. But think about that for a second, because
that's the Rams specialty, is taking money that doesn't seem
like it works. Making it work. And Tua comes in
and he backs up Stafford and it's written in stone
that he is the heir apparent, and Tua can calm
himself down and learn a playing quarterback from the best
guy you could learn to play quarterback from on a
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great team in a great environment that plays on the
West Coast, that plays in good weather, plays away games
in good weather. To it to the Rams, the Rams
do crazy things like this all the time. Why not
this You can add Shanahan to that list if we
want to go down this road as well. Right, a
guy that you get him in a system, you get
him in the right space, that maybe it could work.
(28:18):
I would say this for the Rams, though, I'm looking
at the Falcons pick that they're getting for this year,
and I'm liking where they have a lot of options,
right because not yeah, they'll draft in their own in
the high twenties or whatever, but that Falcons pick. Every week,
we sit there and wait with baited breath to see
how high or low that'll become. You know, like you
(28:41):
watch for that first pick when you had it from
the Panthers, when you want to turn that into Caleb Williams.
But that's it. Right, it's just say, all right, how's
this going to finish out? As it sits? You know,
it would be the number one pick, right or number
ten pick, I should say, right now, ahead of where
Miami is selecting if the draft were held today. But yeah,
I mean McVeigh is certainly a guy that loves his
(29:03):
challenges and loves the rebuild and the money can be
figured out to a point somewhere along the way. Someone
has to just swallow all that dead cap and push
on for two Again. That four thousand yards was a
couple of years ago, and you know what he is
(29:24):
at this point in his career. How much you can
fix it? I mean, if he was so upset he
didn't want Jared Golfer round, Yeah, Eddy years later talks
about it's like, well I was in mature. It's like, yeah,
you were. You had a guy that was pretty damn
good and you didn't harness it. You still had some
pretty good runs. Yet he ended up being the fall guy. Yeah,
you got your super Bowl with Stafford, but you know,
(29:46):
you look at what the career golf has had. It's
been pretty strong. But trying to fix another guy, yeah,
I mean there's a couple of coaches and every offensive
genius thinks that they can fix someone else's cast offs.
Just when Ker Mayfield was there, there was no money
attached to it, right there was there was. There was
nothing that you had to worry about, and you didn't
(30:06):
exactly have to shell out a bunch of of prospects
and draft picks or anything else to bring him into
that building for that short term. So you know that's
about Hey, look what I've done. I helped turn him around,
like so you know I could do it for you
until it would be acceptable to the trade coming in
somewhere to be. At this point, he's got no choice.
That is true. You basically had Mike McDaniel say, hey,
(30:29):
we need some vote of confidence at the quarterback position.
In other words, right now, his team has told him
they have none time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world sports. So someone who's been called
the Matthew Stafford of Fox Sports Radio, that's right, she's
not really welcome in Detroit anymore.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's uh, this is just for you, Jason, go to
your go to your goat gony.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Your going to your.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Goy didn't hang a banner. You can't saying didn't hang an.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I don't blame them, really, I don't blame him.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Is it important or isn't not important? Half the people
make fun of this.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Half the other people aren't watching it, So I don't
blame them for not hanging it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I have to correct all of you. This is when
you say it, it's world champion New York Knicks. That's
how you have to say it. It's a no banner
to wave it though they win the Emirates Cup. That's
how you have to say it. It's a law.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Now, I don't know if it's a law.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It is, I trust me. I'll send you the paperwork.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Please send me the paperwork.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Everybody that just really hated on this though, Moncie and
we talked about this last night. They just need a hug. Sure, right,
the league made a championship, they made a tournament, they
won the tournament. What am I missing?
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Right?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
No, I actually watched it, so I get it. I
get it, but people just you know it's I get
both sides. But I enjoyed. I enjoyed the game. But yeah,
so going to your going New York? All Right, two
NBA games and they've both wrapped up. The Grizzlies out
lasted the Timberwolves in Minnesota. One sixteen to one ten
was the final score.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
This just ended.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Jaren Jackson Junior twenty eight points, twelve rebounds, Rudy Gobert
in the last sixteen points and sixteen rebounds.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
The Bulls, who had you know, started off hot, kind
of struggled.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They gotta win today, yeah, over the Coup of Years
went twenty seven to one eleven. Josh Gitty with another
triple double twenty three points, eleven rebounds, and eleven assists,
while Donovan Mitchell dropped thirty two points in the loss.
The Lakers have ruled out DeAndre eight and four Tomorrow's
game at Utah. When it comes to men's college shops,
Number thirteen Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt survived seventy seven to seventy against
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Memphis in overtime, so Vanderbilt is still undefeated. Number sixteen
Alabama pulled away and defeated South Florida.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
One o four to ninety three. Right now halfway through
the second half.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Number seven Gonzaga has a seventy two to sixty lead
over at Campbell. When it comes to the NHL, the
Hurricanes are up on the Predators three to one late
in the third period, down to the final two minutes.
Devils and Golden Knights are scoreless. Halfway through the first period,
the Panthers defeated the Kings three to two, so LA's
losing streak continues. Mammoth over the Red Wings four to one,
(33:01):
and the Blues edged the Jets one zero. When it
comes to the NFL, Thursday Night football is kicking off
Week sixteen, and it's from Seattle, where the Rams are
taking on the Seahawks. The Rams were supposed to fly
out a few hours ago, but ESPN reported that their
flight has been significantly delayed due to an equipment issue
on the plane. The Rams are also listing wide receiver
(33:24):
Davante Adams as doubtful for tomorrow's game because of his
hamstring injury. Yeah the Dolphins benched quarterback to a Togoba Looya,
while the Jets are once again going to start undrafted
rookie Brady Cook at quarterback Sunday at New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
New York, New York Coat Go New York, New York.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Coat and Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was kept at
home today due to the flu.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of mons real
quick as we talked about it, because I know you
know this off the top of your head. If you
can visualize how many banners do the Clippers hang? How
many banners the Clippers have? What What did I do
to you? I want to ask you.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I I I started with, go to your going to
New York?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And then are you're gonna do that to me? Swinging
that break coming list? Not the brost no study in
You said it's all good, and then you said something
about porcupines. Okay, all right, very good. She wants you
to fall on the quills. All right, that's final. All right,
(34:24):
thank you, Manzi.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
You're not welcome.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Harmon, thank you?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Your voice out.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Almost there, almost one hundred percent back.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Don't they put one up? Every time they signed Kawhi
Leonard for more money they signed resigned?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Who no, who'se stus BANDA ah.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Manzi, let's let's clip us.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
That's done in my they are in my sa via.
There you go, mel Novecento. So's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
He's just citing numbers now coming up next week.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Back numbers, biggest nbast. Don't do that, because now Tyer's
gonna play the FRANCESC counting to forty one. We've got
to learn it somehow. Get into the biggest NBA story
of the day next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio. Oh my god, that'll learn you.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (35:47):
The holidays. And if you want someone to take care
of an unfaithful partner for you, Hey, that's that's this
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Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. We
got some big NFL stories coming your way in about
ten minutes, including a two not one, but two crazy
(36:08):
stories surrounding one player from today. It's been a full
day for this NFL. So yeah. But the New York Knicks, sorry,
the world champion New York Knicks have decided, probably not
making Adam Silver happy, that they are not going to
raise a banner for the Emirates Cup title at Madison
(36:28):
Square Guard. Now the other teams that have won put
banners up, the Knicks decided they're not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Jalen Brunson today said, look, we're gonna enjoy the hell
out of this, but once we get back to once
we get back home, get playing again, where we're moving on.
We're on to other things. Look, they got their next
game tomorrow night against the Pacers. I think they're gonna
sit their entire team against them because they're all exhausted
from the E Cup run, the and the win last night. Wow,
celebration veas, Hey, come on, I mean, look, this is
(36:56):
this is a storyline. We have to look past the
headline of raising the banner number one. This is a
this is a story, and this is a celebration. This
is for me and the fans, right, this is this
is for all the Knick fans that have been waiting
countless years for a mid season tournament that we can
call our own, that we could just sit here and
(37:17):
just get drunk for a week and say go New York, Go,
New York go. Right, it's a thing. Now the Knicks
are saying the right thing about hanging a banner. Hey,
they're asked about it. No, we're focused on the task
at hand. We're focused on the NBA title. We think
we're the best team in the East, and the Look,
by any metrics, are one of the top four or
five teams in the NBA, one of the top two
(37:39):
teams in the East. So yeah, they're saying the right things.
Are they going to put the banner up? Yeah, they're
just not going to do it, Like when everybody gets
back from from Christmas break right, They're not gonna do
it on Christmas Day. They're not gonna do it now
when they get back home. They'll eventually put it up
because look, the NBA wants them to put it up,
you know, and then maybe the NBA will make them
do it. But at some point Nicks will do it.
(38:00):
Maybe they do it Opening night next year, maybe they
do at the end of the year this year. I
don't know, but at some point they'll do it. But
it's the right thing to say. Now, hey, we're not
doing it now. We're focused on other things. We don't
want anybody to think that we have are resting on
our laurels, that we won this championship and now we're
all good for a while. No, we want to show
you that, hey we won, we're business as usual. We're
getting back to it. So this is not we're thumbing
(38:23):
our nose at the NBA. This is not all the knickser.
The knickser aren't treating that. The Knicks had to win
because they needed the the absolute tangible proof that the
direction they're on after firing TIBs was right, and they
need a little bit of that early in the season,
some validation to say, hey, we're on the right path,
this group can coalesce, we can win things. Great. Great.
(38:44):
The Knicks needed that win last night for all of those,
all of those reasons, right, They need to show that
tangible proof that moving on from TIBs is the right
thing and that shadow is no longer hanging over the organization.
But yeah, Mars, this goes, they'll they'll hang They'll hang
it at some point, it'll hang. Just just got to
call on Silver say dude, don't worry about me. Well
hang it at some point, just just it's not just
going to be right now, give us a break on it. Well,
(39:05):
but that's the thing, right, It's it's all in how
you message it. As it stands. You kind of said, well,
we're not doing this, like, well don't you can't. You
can't do that because I'm sure the partner that had
the elaborate ceremony and ponied up a lot of cash,
you know, to the tune of five hundred and what
thirty eight thousand dollars per player and full contract guy
(39:25):
and all whatever else is involved. I'm sure they want
their just due to wear their logo and everything hangs
from a banner that is in the arena. So I
got to imagine there's a phone call mixed there and
you could have said, you know, now is not the time,
like just you know, however, you massage it, but you can't.
Just can't. No, no, no, we got other things we
(39:46):
need to do.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
This is important. It's important to your fans. If other
people want to mockt it's like we talked about you
with your T shirt or hat combination or georts or
whatever you wanted to do with the logo and the
championship on it. If folks want to judge it, that's
on them. Internally, you actually won something, all right. They
built a tournament, you want it. Celebrate it for the Knicks. Yeah,
(40:07):
there's still a lot of this great proof of concept
short term in this odd construction of a tournament and
a Spurs team. That's it'll playing right now with Victor
woman Yama on a minute restriction. No excuses, Just here's
part of the equation of what you're doing. You got
a lot of work left to do, a lot of
work with the rotation, got to get through healthy whatever.
(40:29):
But yeah, at least at this point you've had a
test and you passed with flying colors. But at some
point I would imagine the sort of damaicles i e.
The Emirates Company or Adam Silver starts waving at you,
going you know, Banner's got to go up, buddy, Banner's
got to go up. Yeah. Again, it just won't be
in the next few months. It's fine, they'll do it.
(40:50):
It's all good. Yeah, But then it'll be forgotten about
when you melt down in the playoffs champion New York Knicks.
That crazy story out of the NFL is next. Jason
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buying should be. Well. Happy day after the world champion
New York Knicks win the E Cup. I've been drunk
all day. It just sobered up for the coffee that
I went to Trader Jose. I got one of those
things where it's just like straight espresso down that I
am ready for tonight. Did you just drink the cold
(01:18):
grew concentrate. Just that's what it was a man. Instead
of diluting it like you're supposed to hell with it,
I'm just going straight concentrate many through it. Man. I
had to be ready for the show man good man. Hey,
And in part of my hayese are the Bears moving
to Indiana? Yeah? Is that a real story? No, that's
been a real story for a long time. They bought
that swap of land like they've got land all over
(01:40):
That's one of the things that's been strolling in the
background for a long time. I'm all not leveraging the
city and that horrible, horrible field that they've been playing on,
a sacred ground in terms of what a stadium. Once
upon a time was the Great Soldier Field, and then
they put that toilet bowl over the top of it,
but handled by the park District, one of the worst
(02:01):
surfaces you'll ever play a football game on, or watch
people play a football game on. So, yeah, trying to
leverage the city to put some money towards things, well,
I gotta say, if you were gonna move to Indiana
to play football, now's the time. It's never been better
than it. Is in India. I mean, come on, they're
in the They're in the playoff of the number one
team in the country. I mean, come on, this is
when you go to Indiana. This is go to New York.
(02:22):
The New York team stink. I'm not going to We're
going to Indiana. That's what. Well, at least the Colts
have drifted back, so you would be number two in
the state right now. Ah well, yeah, Sycamores don't feel
the team, do they? No, I don't. I don't think
you can. You already have so much a Larry Bird
and Kreem Abdul Jabbar, but I no, I think you
(02:44):
would probably boy Indiana. They would have to go all
the way. But it's still the NFL. No, they would
fight the Indoe Hoosiers for number one in the state.
They would fight Indy, the Indiana Bears. It already rolls
off the tongue, Indiana Bears, Indiana Bears rolls off the table.
It would have to be you know, wherever they end
up setting up shop and it's like some sub section. Yeah,
it's it's crazy, but yeah, that is going on, and
(03:07):
it's been part of the All right, let's use whatever
leverage we can buy some land. Nothing else. Lands appreciating
in value, so it sound investment. So there you go.
There's your investment advice in three minutes after the hour.
But yeah, it's Hoosier's day here at Soldier Field. He
get a free Indiana Hoosiers replica Mendoza Jersey. I can't
(03:27):
say his whole name because then we'd have to pay
him money. But get your replica Mendoza Jersey here at
the game odd Sunday. Yeah, it is some mex level stuff.
So that's one of the stories swirling in the background
of Packers week.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Out.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, that's one of the greats the
Bear I mean, look, this has been a great upping
the anti story over the course of the past few years.
And now that look, this is the biggest game the
Bears have had at home in a long time, right,
this Saturday game against Green Bay, who's basically going to
decide the NFC North and decide, you know, they could
finish this highest second in the in the NFC this year.
(04:06):
This is when CEO Kevin Warren says, oh yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, hey,
you know we could move and we could move entirely
out of Illinois. They're looking outside of Cook County. They're
looking at the big property in Arlington Nights and potentially
northwest Indiana. I mean, that's just awesome. I like how
he says it's not about leverage now, it really is
about you're not gonna move You're really gonna move the
(04:28):
Bears to Indiana. It's gonna be the Indiana. But come on, man,
you're not moving the Bears. And it is all about
leverage and where you you've had opportunity, and you look
in the area just up and down the highway there,
it's a nice short drive. You mentioned Purdue there Justice,
So like all of that to say, uh yeah, when
you're winning, it's a lot easier to go back to
(04:50):
a city state and just say, hey, what do we
got on the table here, because you know, we got
a lot of options. And right now we're really popular
with this you know, good better, best coach and a
second year quarterback that people are starting to fall in
love with a little bit and the brand is at
its peak since nineteen eighty five. So yeah, it's exciting times.
(05:14):
But yeah, you gotta leverage this for every bit that
you can. I mean, it's like whenever there's an opening.
You know, no matter where you work, if there's an
opening that suddenly avails itself, you have to raise your
hand and say, hey, what do I got? Oh I
get to we gotta bring Brent Musburger out of a
time to say you are looking live at Kevin Warren
Field here in Indiana as the Indiana Bears hosts the
(05:36):
Green Bay Packers. Yeah, I mean funny because if you
listen to a Bear's broadcast, there are advertisers and businesses
from northwest Indiana, and that's part of the a's part
of the broadcast. So this doesn't come out of the blues.
So folks that think this is just kind of like
a random Okay, it's Midwest, they're near blah blah. No, no, no, no,
there's advertising dollars that have already been exchanged and promotions
(06:00):
for cities in Indiana for a long time. So yeah,
it's it's it's timing, man. You gotta strike while the
iron's hot, man, I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
So.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, look, a plethora of big football stories tonight. You know,
Joe Burrow is leaving more crumbs. He wants out, and
I really feel like he really does want out. Patrick
Mahomes wants to be back week one. But yeah, sometimes
in the world we live in now, the you become
the news. Right and right now this hour here, Fox
(06:31):
Sports Radio is big time in the news. Is our
colleague here for better part of the last ten years.
Doug Gottlieb has announced he is leaving Fox Sports Radio
and he is gonna, you know, just concentrate more full
time on coaching the Green Bay Phoenix. You know, the
last couple of years Doug's been doing both really cut
through the clutter. It was. It was incredible endeavor for
him to undertake to do a daily sports talk radio
(06:54):
show and coach the Green Bay Phoenix. Doug just making
that announcement a few minutes ago that he is gonna
have his last show I think on Friday, and then uh,
you know, gonna continue on to do his podcast, but
uh obviously devoting even more of his time to the
Green Bay Phoenix. Now this story is is uh, look,
it's been really incredible to watch and follow this over
(07:15):
the course of the last you know, couple of years
that it's been. But as far as this ending, I
I this was sort of we'd we talked about it
when it happened. I felt like it was sort of
inevitable that it's sometime he was gonna have to choose, right, Like,
sometime he was gonna have to choose. I either stay
at Fox Sports Radio and do what I've been doing
for a long time and continue to be a you know,
a newsmaker and an opinion giver and and and everything else,
(07:36):
or I was gonna have to choose. I gotta pick
full time and and and and donate all of my
time to coaching, like to do like for for a
team like Green Bay. Because you think about it from
their perspective. When this came out, this is a really
controversial topic, and it was, okay, if Doug was leaving
to coach UCLA or Michigan or Indiana or someplace, and okay,
(07:57):
wait a minute, you're gonna do a full time radio
show and coach this high lofe d one. Okay, Okay,
I don't know about that, but here's here's here's Green
Bay and getting Doug who's been a big national voice
for the last you know, twenty some odd years. Uh,
you know, doing games and being on the radio and
on TV. Uh. You know that that's a coup right, Hey,
we got somebody that's got a big national personality. It
(08:18):
will help recruiting, it's gonna help visibility, it will help
all of this. So I get, you know, when we
talked about it, when it happened, I get why both
sides were in for it. Right, Fox is in for Hey,
we got he's gonna coach, He's gonna do the show.
It helps us, you know, everybody kind of wins. As
long as Doug can do it. It's a lot to
take it, take that responsibility, even though as he said,
(08:38):
you know, it's two hours in the middle of the day.
I can fit it in. I can do it a
couple of things. The way he said it, I don't
know that I would have said it quite that way,
but I get what he was saying. Yeah, I can
do the show, and I can and I can still
coach because it's it's it's downtime for me during the day.
So I get it. And it's been a fascinating thing
to watch. But I always felt that eventually he was
gonna have to choose whether it was hey, uh, one
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of the sides making him choose, or he was going
to realize that, Wow, you know, I'm not twenty five,
and the endless amounts of energy that I had the
first year plus doing this, that kind of goes away, right.
It's like, you know, I look at my daughter who
is talking about now flirting with the idea of going
to the East Coast for college, and I'm like, okay,
go oh, I love the fall. I go, yeah, okay.
(09:22):
Let me just tell you something here. The fall is great,
and the fall is great, and I know that you
love the winter. Your experience with the winter has been
one week at Christmas and we fly home. Yeah, And
she said, no, I know that, but I would. I said, yeah, No,
here's what's gonna happen. You're gonna love the weather for
the first two weeks, maybe the first month. It's gonna
hit November, whether you're in Syracuse or New York or NYU,
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whatever you want to go, go and it's gonna be great.
And then December is gonna come and it's gonna be
cold and slushy and sleet and rain every day. And
this is gonna happen for December, January, February, March, and
then April's gonna come and you're gonna say, hey, we
got a couple of sunny days. This is great, the
weather is changing, and then you're gonna get four feet
(10:07):
of snow sometime at the end of April. You don't
understand that. I know it sounds great and you can
you're full of energy now, but trust me, I grew
up there, I lived there. It's it gets to you
after the first couple of months when the fall is
very short, and you know, to a different extent, like
with Doug, it's like, hey, to devote this kind of energy.
And you know, he talked a lot about his family
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as well, and and having to fit them in. When
is when is when his kids come to see him?
Eventually you were gonna have to make a choice, like
we You know, he's done this for a couple of
years and it came time to Okay, I have to choose.
His team is pretty good, you know. I could tell
just by talking to him and doing shows together that
we've done in the past, everything. You know, Look, he
loves doing what he's doing. He loves this. Coaching lights
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him up, man, and I get it. Look as the
youth coach I was, I get coaching lights you up.
But it just absolutely light him up. And he coach
coach all the time. He would go to Israel and
would still do his Fox Sports radio show and he's
doing the Maccabi game and all kinds of stuff. So
I get it, But I so I always felt like
at some point he was going to have to choose,
and he chose the Phoenix, and he chose his kids
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that he's coaching, and you know, best of luck to
him with that. I want him to succeed. I want
to see the Phoenix in the tournament. I want to
see him throw more chairs. So we could talk about him.
It's it's you know, I'm happy for him. I'm happy
for this choice, and I know it must have been
difficult and a hard thing to do and to say
at this point, this is when I have to walk away.
But again, his team is pretty good. Just beat Calcanda Barber,
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they won a few games, so this was the time
to make that call, which again I thought would happened
at some point five and two in their last seven
and starting to get a little bit of momentum. Obviously,
we talked about the chair throwing in that near miss
in the final minutes, right an opportunity to really push ahead,
and you know, you could see the emotion because it's
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two loves, right, And oh, I think we lost in
there for a second. Oh, we'll get him back in
a second. Jason Smith MI Carmen Live from the Fox
Sports Radio Studios. Yeah, it's it. And you know, Harmon
gets in that point there about saying, yeah, you have
two things that you love, and it's okay to love
a couple of things, right, It's okay to love two things.
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But when you realize that hosting a full time sports
talk radio show, that's a full time job for everybody, right,
And then when you're hosting a when you're coaching Division
I college sports, that's a full time job for everybody.
I get that you can love both of them. You can,
you can love a lot of things, and I completely
get that, But again, you only have so many hours
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in the day, and you know, when you're into your
you know, I think Doug's in his late forties now,
I think he's a couple of years younger than I am.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, that that uh, that energy reservoir, doesn't You don't
quite bounce back as well as as you normally did
when you know, you know, you don't do that anymore.
But that's just it eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox Jason Smith Mike Carmen live from the Fox Sports
Radio studio. So best of luck to Doug again. This
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about it throughout the show tonight. But coming up next,
we got big stuff out of the NFL. There is
an official benching in the NFL for one quarterback and
another quarterback may really just at some point have to
say I want out of my current situation. That's next
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the NFL today. Look, we'll get to Puka Nakua ripping
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stream video. But two big quarterback to stories to get
to right now. Number one, Well, we talked about it
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on Monday night, said it should happen. It was talked
about yesterday like it was going to happen, and officially
it happened today. Tua Tongue of Iloa, the three day
odyssey of him? Will he still be the quarterback of
the Dolphins. He has been benched for this weekend's game
by head coach Mike McDaniel. Quinn yours six round draft
pick out of Texas. We'll start passing over Zach Wilson. Sorry,
(15:46):
Zach Wilson, I'm sorry. And if he sucks, Marina we'll
get the start. Yeah. Sure, yeah, Jay Fiedler, Yeah, they
got a whole bunch of guys ready to go. Wow,
go Feedler, Feeley, keep going down the line. So Tua
is benched, and and quite honestly, by benching Tua, you
have announced the end of the Tua Toungueo vloa era
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as a starter in Miami. You don't go back after
benching him. This is not one of those Hey, he's
not right, he's not healthy, he needs to sit. He
needs to get better. This is the quarterback position is
not giving us what we need, so we need to
move on. You don't get your job back after you
get benched like this. You only find a way to
be a backup or move on someplace else. Now, for Tua,
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yesterday we told you that, hey, the best straight up
trade one on one would be with the Arizona Cardinals, right,
because you can make the money work. Teams are exchanging
problems for other problems. Getting the better quarterback would be
the Dolphins, but they'd have to pay Kyler Murray a
little bit more than the Cardinals would have to pay Tua.
Tua and Jacoby Brissett would be a complete locker room.
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Maybe it's a change of scenery, but there is a
lot of money at stake for this. But you talk
about two teams that need to move on from quarterbacks,
might pick so high, might not like some of the
guys in the draft. Hey, that works for Tua. But
two other situations right, One we only briefly touched on
yesterday is that if it gets bad, right, and clearly,
(17:12):
Tua has not done a lot to show everybody that, oh, hey,
he could be the answer. Like it looks a lot
like Kirk Cousins and the Falcons where they couldn't move
on from him. He wouldn't take less money and he
had to back up Michael Pennick Junior until Penix got hurt.
And now Kirk Cousins is playing and he's playing pretty well.
Maybe he jumpstarts his career and after this year teams
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will be okay with taking on two years of his
salary to come in and be a bridge type quarterback.
Maybe that could happens. Been a big year for Kirk Cousins.
But trying to move Kirk Cousins, remember the end of
last year, he lost his job, he was benched and
Michael Pennock Junior came in. He knew he was gonna
be the guy coming in if you couldn't find a
way to figure out the money, and you always can
figure out the money. This was Kirk Cousins digging in
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and the Falcons digging in because the Falcons don't want
to They're not gonna for one second let it be
known they made a bad decision by signing Kirk Cousins
and drafting Michael Pennick Junior. They are gonna just continue
to die on that hill that we did the right
thing with these two quarterbacks, and that it looks like
they may have no quarterbacks because Michael Pennick Junior hasn't
been good and he's been injured. So this could wind
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up being a big possibility for the Dolphins. Is that, Yeah,
you have Tua who is not gonna be the starter anymore,
and maybe Quinn Ewers lights it up the next couple
of games and he comes in to get kind of
projected to be a little Justin Herbert esque when he
was in college. Now, clearly you gotta wait and see
how it goes. But either that or it's somebody else
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in free agency, or it's somebody in the draft it's
a first round pick and or it's nuss Meyer, or
it's somebody early second round that comes in and gets
the job, and Tua is the highest priced backup in
the NFL for at least this next year. So I
could really see a scenario in which Tua winds up
staying with the Dolphins as the backup quarterback because hey,
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Kirk Cousins was a pro right, there were no real problem.
We didn't hear about problems he's causing behind the scenes.
With Atlanta this year. There was none of that. He
was fine. They manage a situation as much as it
could be. And Tua is like that too. He's a pro.
He may not like it, but he's not somebody's going
to try to make waves. He kind of is like
a Russell Wilson esquhere. Hey, I'm always trying to do
the right thing. I want the right image of me
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out there, and I want to do the right thing.
So I have no doubt that he would handle it
as best as he could. But that's a real possibility.
Might because you look at what his capt is the
next couple of years, and you're coming off being bench,
not just we got another guy. It's it's not Sam
Darnell coming off of forty touchdowns where hey, I got
this is Tua coming off of being bench. That's a possibility, yeah.
I mean the only thing that comes to it when
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you look at the dollars and cents is whether they
just decide to go to the Russell Wilson route and
just take the poison pill and move on, just recognizing
the next couple of years will be miserable in theory
because you have such a restrictive cap hit. I mean,
you see the number that have been floated about, right,
it's pre June first reduces the dead cap to forty
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five million. Otherwise we're looking at almost one hundred million
dollars that's on the table here with TUA. And that's why,
you know, if I'm going back to your scenario of
the Kyler Murray trade, which is this fun in theory,
I get the far worst guy and I'm still on
the hook for a ton of money for next and yeah,
no I'm out. But it's just the idea in Miami.
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I remember Quinn Ewers was the guy that kept arch
Manning on the bench, So I mean, there's something there.
Unless there's not, I don't know. But he got to Cincinnati.
They can't stop the you know, our show, and five
or six other guys. I mean, that's that defense is
no good. So you got an opportunity to at least
put something decent on on paper here, and then you
got Tampa Bay. Their secondary has been terrible. So the
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next two weeks you at least have some opportunities for
McDaniel to show that he can do the job with
the next guy up, because that's the other domino that
can still fall in all of this. I mean, I
don't know how much he had saved versus coming down
from on top. Right, you got a power vacuum in
terms of your GM that you fired mid season, so
you're trying to figure out what the next steps are forward,
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and it's sounded and looked like maybe McDaniel would would
stay and get a stay of execution, but the next
three weeks might just be all right, we're just turning
the page altogether. So you got that part in there.
Season finale is on the road at New England. But
for the TUA situation, just from a money perspective, trying
to find anybody to take on any portion of that
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salary is just not going to work. Like, this isn't
a third year that you're moving on from the guy, right,
this is this is year six, right, this is who
he is at this point in terms of how he operates.
Co Sell and I have talked about it a lot,
and his tape review NFL Films Greg coach Sell and
I on our Sunday mornings. It's like, it's all timing, right,
(21:53):
It's all timing patterns. It's not Hey, I can drive
the ball in and make a big throw, a big play.
It's it's a lesser version of the Russell Wilson moon ball.
To go back to the you know Russell Wilson from
an economic standpoint, but also from a playing standpoint. You know,
once upon a time Russ can at least drive that down,
and he can also make some plays with his legs. Well,
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Tua just runs into trouble more than anything. And we
talked about it on Monday night against the Steelers. The
number of sacks that he took that were just inexplicable
in an obvious throw the damn ball out of bound situations.
So you know, those decisions in addition to just throwing
the ball the interception was unconscionable. I mean the number
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of turnovers he's made over the coach of the year.
Normally we could pick a pick and choose through all
right off the receiver's hands. Off this virtually all of
them are his fault and bad reads and bad decision making.
And now with that level of financial responsibility to it,
it's it puts Miami in absolute hell trying to figure
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out what to do going forward. Jason Smith Mike Harmon
Lot from the Fox Sports Radio studio sor right, what
do you got on this Frostburg Jason on a scale
from one to sixty seven? Yeah? Okay, are you for
two on the Jets? Come on a no, that's his
landing spot. Listen, listen, listen. I'm not trying to get
like three great years out of that. When I says great,
(23:19):
I mean for us, not you. Content No, no, for us,
not you. Yeah. The fact that the Dolphins would trade
to it of the Jets in division tells you what
they think of him and how how good they think
he's going to be. Oh, I will trade with the Jets.
What do you want. We won't take anything you promised
to start him for the next three years. We'll trade
him to you. We won't even take anything from you. Hey,
two and oh I just clinched just being two and
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oh against the Jets the next three years. There we go.
Check that off. I'm GM of the year. Everybody, Well,
I mean you also, you get a statue immediately. What
were I was the interim GM? This got me a
seven year deal because I was able to keep him
in division. Ah, you don't let it. Oh, you get
can you imagine? Like you know it's one of those
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dinner parties in the off season, you're hanging out with
UH with Brandon bean and and UH and and Vrabel
and they're like, hey, great move you got thanks for
doing that and keeping them in condivision. Man, that's great.
We're gonna be two and h against him every year. No,
you did, you did great. You think he couldn't throw
the football in the cold? Wait, he tried to throw
the football at MetLife all those times. Oh, that's gonna
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be fantastic. No, great, but you guys are great. But
we talked about it yesterday. That was the only part
of the trade to Arizona I liked was the idea that, well,
at least he's in a dome and most and all
the division games will be on the West coast, right exactly,
And that's a big thing. Right. There was all these
reasons why, No, he's still terrible. It doesn't. But it's
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an extra. But when you when you have two quarterbacks
that are making all that money, it's an exchange of problems.
You know, it's not working for Kyler and Arizona not
working for two in Miami. Maybe it works the other way.
Either way, you're still on the hook for this money.
You're still paying somebody at least you could pay somebody else, uh,
you know, to come in and maybe it's different. Maybe
it works, if it doesn't, Okay, you tried, right, But
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I would just look around and say, all right, we
need a couple of defenders. Can Kyler do that? Because
that ain't his fault. But let's let me throw this
one out here for me too, because this is a
team's absolute specialty. Okay, Now again, you have to figure
the money out, and if you're motivated enough, there's always
a way to figure the money out. How about this,
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Because it's their team's specialty to make crazy trades that
go against the norm, that bring in high priced guys.
And I've wondered for the past seven eight years how
they continue to bring in these high priced vets for
short term and turn them around and still stay under
the cap and are able to compete and be the
best team overall in the NFL the last seven or
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eight years. But it is a typical Sean McVay thing
to do for the Rams, to say, you know what,
I'm a quarterback guru. I can make it work with
a lot of guys. Right. Remember Baker Mayfield was here
he went and lug at all the money he's getting
with with with Tampa. Right, I had him here, Right,
Matthew Stafford was someone nobody wanted in Detroit. It was
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aw Stafford's terrible, all that bloated salary. Now all of
a sudden, no, wait a minute, Matthew Stafford might be
the best quarterback in the NFL. It's gonna win MVP
this year. But that is a typical thing to do
for Sean McVay. And again, it's about the challenge of
doing something like this because look, everybody's human and everybody
wants to be able to say, hey, that's a challenge
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for me. We have seen too a flash. It's not
like we haven't seen him play well or we've seen
him at four thousand yard seasons. You know, we've seen
him be able to do that. But he comes in,
they figure out a trade, they figure out the money.
It's not going to be a lot of uh, you know,
it's not gonna be a lot of draft capital going
one way or the other. But they figure out the
money and Tua comes in and he sits, and he
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sits behind Matthew Stafford until he retires, and then Tua
just assimilates into the role of starting quarterback, because where
else the Ram's gonna get a guy outside of taking
someone late in the draft that you're gonna have to
groom anyway. Tua is twenty five, so if he sits
until he's twenty seven, twenty okay. They got Matthew Stafford
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when he was thirty three years old, right, I think
they're okay with Tua. If he took over a twenty
eight or twenty nine, it's not like he's got to
worry about losing a lot of speed.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's like Philip Rivers and everybody speed to begin with.
But that would be a typical La Rams swing for
the fences. We have our quarterback. It also puts pressure
on Matthew Stafford after every year to go, hey, I
may retire, I want more money. I may retire. I
want more money, because you know they're kind of sick
of that. And if you thought you were done with
it after last year, oh wait, do you see after
he wins MVP this year what he wants for a
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new deal. But think about that for a second, because
that's the Rams specialty, is taking money that doesn't seem
like it works. Making it work. And Tua comes in
and he backs up Stafford and it's written in stone
that he is the heir apparent, and Tua can calm
himself down and learn a playing quarterback from the best
guy you could learn to play quarterback from on a
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great team in a great environment that plays on the
West Coast, that plays in good weather, plays away games
in good weather. To it to the Rams, the Rams
do crazy things like this all the time. Why not
this You can add Shanahan to that list if we
want to go down this road as well. Right, a
guy that you get him in a system, you get
him in the right space, that maybe it could work.
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I would say this for the Rams, though, I'm looking
at the Falcons pick that they're getting for this year,
and I'm liking where they have a lot of options,
right because not yeah, they'll draft in their own in
the high twenties or whatever, but that Falcons pick. Every week,
we sit there and wait with baited breath to see
how high or low that'll become. You know, like you
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watch for that first pick when you had it from
the Panthers, when you want to turn that into Caleb Williams.
But that's it. Right, it's just say, all right, how's
this going to finish out? As it sits? You know,
it would be the number one pick, right or number
ten pick, I should say, right now, ahead of where
Miami is selecting if the draft were held today. But yeah,
I mean McVeigh is certainly a guy that loves his
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challenges and loves the rebuild and the money can be
figured out to a point somewhere along the way. Someone
has to just swallow all that dead cap and push
on for two Again. That four thousand yards was a
couple of years ago, and you know what he is
(29:24):
at this point in his career. How much you can
fix it? I mean, if he was so upset he
didn't want Jared Golfer round, Yeah, Eddy years later talks
about it's like, well I was in mature. It's like, yeah,
you were. You had a guy that was pretty damn
good and you didn't harness it. You still had some
pretty good runs. Yet he ended up being the fall guy. Yeah,
you got your super Bowl with Stafford, but you know,
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you look at what the career golf has had. It's
been pretty strong. But trying to fix another guy, yeah,
I mean there's a couple of coaches and every offensive
genius thinks that they can fix someone else's cast offs.
Just when Ker Mayfield was there, there was no money
attached to it, right there was there was. There was
nothing that you had to worry about, and you didn't
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exactly have to shell out a bunch of of prospects
and draft picks or anything else to bring him into
that building for that short term. So you know that's
about Hey, look what I've done. I helped turn him around,
like so you know I could do it for you
until it would be acceptable to the trade coming in
somewhere to be. At this point, he's got no choice.
That is true. You basically had Mike McDaniel say, hey,
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we need some vote of confidence at the quarterback position.
In other words, right now, his team has told him
they have none time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world sports. So someone who's been called
the Matthew Stafford of Fox Sports Radio, that's right, she's
not really welcome in Detroit anymore.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
It's uh, this is just for you, Jason, go to
your go to your goat gony.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Your going to your.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Goy didn't hang a banner. You can't saying didn't hang an.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I don't blame them, really, I don't blame him.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (31:01):
Is it important or isn't not important? Half the people
make fun of this.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Half the other people aren't watching it, So I don't
blame them for not hanging it.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I have to correct all of you. This is when
you say it, it's world champion New York Knicks. That's
how you have to say it. It's a no banner
to wave it though they win the Emirates Cup. That's
how you have to say it. It's a law.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Now, I don't know if it's a law.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It is, I trust me. I'll send you the paperwork.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Please send me the paperwork.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Everybody that just really hated on this though, Moncie and
we talked about this last night. They just need a hug. Sure, right,
the league made a championship, they made a tournament, they
won the tournament. What am I missing?
Speaker 6 (31:37):
Right?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:38):
No, I actually watched it, so I get it. I
get it, but people just you know it's I get
both sides. But I enjoyed. I enjoyed the game. But yeah,
so going to your going New York? All Right, two
NBA games and they've both wrapped up. The Grizzlies out
lasted the Timberwolves in Minnesota. One sixteen to one ten
was the final score.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
This just ended.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Jaren Jackson Junior twenty eight points, twelve rebounds, Rudy Gobert
in the last sixteen points and sixteen rebounds.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
The Bulls, who had you know, started off hot, kind
of struggled.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They gotta win today, yeah, over the Coup of Years
went twenty seven to one eleven. Josh Gitty with another
triple double twenty three points, eleven rebounds, and eleven assists,
while Donovan Mitchell dropped thirty two points in the loss.
The Lakers have ruled out DeAndre eight and four Tomorrow's
game at Utah. When it comes to men's college shops,
Number thirteen Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt survived seventy seven to seventy against
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Memphis in overtime, so Vanderbilt is still undefeated. Number sixteen
Alabama pulled away and defeated South Florida.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
One o four to ninety three. Right now halfway through
the second half.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Number seven Gonzaga has a seventy two to sixty lead
over at Campbell. When it comes to the NHL, the
Hurricanes are up on the Predators three to one late
in the third period, down to the final two minutes.
Devils and Golden Knights are scoreless. Halfway through the first period,
the Panthers defeated the Kings three to two, so LA's
losing streak continues. Mammoth over the Red Wings four to one,
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and the Blues edged the Jets one zero. When it
comes to the NFL, Thursday Night football is kicking off
Week sixteen, and it's from Seattle, where the Rams are
taking on the Seahawks. The Rams were supposed to fly
out a few hours ago, but ESPN reported that their
flight has been significantly delayed due to an equipment issue
on the plane. The Rams are also listing wide receiver
(33:24):
Davante Adams as doubtful for tomorrow's game because of his
hamstring injury. Yeah the Dolphins benched quarterback to a Togoba Looya,
while the Jets are once again going to start undrafted
rookie Brady Cook at quarterback Sunday at New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
New York, New York Coat Go New York, New York.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Coat and Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was kept at
home today due to the flu.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of mons real
quick as we talked about it, because I know you
know this off the top of your head. If you
can visualize how many banners do the Clippers hang? How
many banners the Clippers have? What What did I do
to you? I want to ask you.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I I I started with, go to your going to
New York?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And then are you're gonna do that to me? Swinging
that break coming list? Not the brost no study in
You said it's all good, and then you said something
about porcupines. Okay, all right, very good. She wants you
to fall on the quills. All right, that's final. All right,
(34:24):
thank you, Manzi.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
You're not welcome.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Harmon, thank you?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Your voice out.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Almost there, almost one hundred percent back.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Don't they put one up? Every time they signed Kawhi
Leonard for more money they signed resigned?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Who no, who'se stus BANDA ah.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Manzi, let's let's clip us.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
That's done in my they are in my sa via.
There you go, mel Novecento. So's going on.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
He's just citing numbers now coming up next week.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Back numbers, biggest nbast. Don't do that, because now Tyer's
gonna play the FRANCESC counting to forty one. We've got
to learn it somehow. Get into the biggest NBA story
of the day next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio. Oh my god, that'll learn you.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (35:47):
The holidays. And if you want someone to take care
of an unfaithful partner for you, Hey, that's that's this
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Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. We
got some big NFL stories coming your way in about
ten minutes, including a two not one, but two crazy
(36:08):
stories surrounding one player from today. It's been a full
day for this NFL. So yeah. But the New York Knicks, sorry,
the world champion New York Knicks have decided, probably not
making Adam Silver happy, that they are not going to
raise a banner for the Emirates Cup title at Madison
(36:28):
Square Guard. Now the other teams that have won put
banners up, the Knicks decided they're not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Jalen Brunson today said, look, we're gonna enjoy the hell
out of this, but once we get back to once
we get back home, get playing again, where we're moving on.
We're on to other things. Look, they got their next
game tomorrow night against the Pacers. I think they're gonna
sit their entire team against them because they're all exhausted
from the E Cup run, the and the win last night. Wow,
celebration veas, Hey, come on, I mean, look, this is
(36:56):
this is a storyline. We have to look past the
headline of raising the banner number one. This is a
this is a story, and this is a celebration. This
is for me and the fans, right, this is this
is for all the Knick fans that have been waiting
countless years for a mid season tournament that we can
call our own, that we could just sit here and
(37:17):
just get drunk for a week and say go New York, Go,
New York go. Right, it's a thing. Now the Knicks
are saying the right thing about hanging a banner. Hey,
they're asked about it. No, we're focused on the task
at hand. We're focused on the NBA title. We think
we're the best team in the East, and the Look,
by any metrics, are one of the top four or
five teams in the NBA, one of the top two
(37:39):
teams in the East. So yeah, they're saying the right things.
Are they going to put the banner up? Yeah, they're
just not going to do it, Like when everybody gets
back from from Christmas break right, They're not gonna do
it on Christmas Day. They're not gonna do it now
when they get back home. They'll eventually put it up
because look, the NBA wants them to put it up,
you know, and then maybe the NBA will make them
do it. But at some point Nicks will do it.
(38:00):
Maybe they do it Opening night next year, maybe they
do at the end of the year this year. I
don't know, but at some point they'll do it. But
it's the right thing to say. Now, hey, we're not
doing it now. We're focused on other things. We don't
want anybody to think that we have are resting on
our laurels, that we won this championship and now we're
all good for a while. No, we want to show
you that, hey we won, we're business as usual. We're
getting back to it. So this is not we're thumbing
(38:23):
our nose at the NBA. This is not all the knickser.
The knickser aren't treating that. The Knicks had to win
because they needed the the absolute tangible proof that the
direction they're on after firing TIBs was right, and they
need a little bit of that early in the season,
some validation to say, hey, we're on the right path,
this group can coalesce, we can win things. Great. Great.
(38:44):
The Knicks needed that win last night for all of those,
all of those reasons, right, They need to show that
tangible proof that moving on from TIBs is the right
thing and that shadow is no longer hanging over the organization.
But yeah, Mars, this goes, they'll they'll hang They'll hang
it at some point, it'll hang. Just just got to
call on Silver say dude, don't worry about me. Well
hang it at some point, just just it's not just
going to be right now, give us a break on it. Well,
(39:05):
but that's the thing, right, It's it's all in how
you message it. As it stands. You kind of said, well,
we're not doing this, like, well don't you can't. You
can't do that because I'm sure the partner that had
the elaborate ceremony and ponied up a lot of cash,
you know, to the tune of five hundred and what
thirty eight thousand dollars per player and full contract guy
(39:25):
and all whatever else is involved. I'm sure they want
their just due to wear their logo and everything hangs
from a banner that is in the arena. So I
got to imagine there's a phone call mixed there and
you could have said, you know, now is not the time,
like just you know, however, you massage it, but you can't.
Just can't. No, no, no, we got other things we
(39:46):
need to do.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
This is important. It's important to your fans. If other
people want to mockt it's like we talked about you
with your T shirt or hat combination or georts or
whatever you wanted to do with the logo and the
championship on it. If folks want to judge it, that's
on them. Internally, you actually won something, all right. They
built a tournament, you want it. Celebrate it for the Knicks. Yeah,
(40:07):
there's still a lot of this great proof of concept
short term in this odd construction of a tournament and
a Spurs team. That's it'll playing right now with Victor
woman Yama on a minute restriction. No excuses, Just here's
part of the equation of what you're doing. You got
a lot of work left to do, a lot of
work with the rotation, got to get through healthy whatever.
(40:29):
But yeah, at least at this point you've had a
test and you passed with flying colors. But at some
point I would imagine the sort of damaicles i e.
The Emirates Company or Adam Silver starts waving at you,
going you know, Banner's got to go up, buddy, Banner's
got to go up. Yeah. Again, it just won't be
in the next few months. It's fine, they'll do it.
(40:50):
It's all good. Yeah, But then it'll be forgotten about
when you melt down in the playoffs champion New York Knicks.
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