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here we are. We jump in right away, final twenty
seconds to the third quarter of the Pacers lead the
Knicks in a pivotal game four one ninety one, also
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known as the Tyres Halliburton Game. Well, I mean he's
going to the Hall of Fame off of this game
twenty eight points, fourteen assists, and eight rebounds, not even
through three quarters of the game. This is where Tyrese
Halliburton is at the night he is having. Now you
know why the pacer said, Hey, we got to bring
your dad back. Man. Look they're patting themselves on the back, going, yeah,
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we brought your dad back at the right time. Look
at this game, you ever, one of the greatest games
in NBA playoff history. We did the right pat yourselves
on the back. You did the right thing.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's the complete opposite of Jamie Tart when his dad
showed up.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
He just could not play here all world. Jake himself
Hall of Famer Jami Oa is catchy. I'll tell you why.
It's absolutely true. Look, I'm I'm stunned. Honestly, the game
is this close right because here we are twenty seconds
ago on the third quarter, and the Pacers has simply
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done everything they've wanted to do offensively in this game,
everything they've wanted to do. The knickser lost on almost
every defensive possession. There's a pacer wide open for three.
At the end of the shot clock. There's an easy
path to the hoop. I don't know if Brunson is
missing some defensive assignments up top, but offensively, the Pacers
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have done everything. Halli Burton has done anything he wanted to.
They're playing at the pace they wanted to, which is
they want to go up and down the court fast.
They want to be able to hold Jalen Brunson down
and make him dribble the ball up court and pressure
him as often as he's on the floor. I mean,
the Pacers have done everything they've wanted to, They've played
at the pace they've wanted to, and yet it's a
ten point game like this should be the Knick should
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be down twenty five at this point. I can't believe it's. Honestly,
it's this close.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Well, I've doubled up on turnover too, Nicks with fourteen
to the Pacers seven, but they've made it count at
the fire line. Twenty six of twenty nine last couple
of minutes have been a wrestling match, and curiously officiated
in the process. Benedict Matherin. I would put him, I
would just call him the menace because at some point
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Kat or somebody is just going to haul off on him.
He has tackled Jalen Brunson at least twice in the
last two minutes, and they're they're really just beating the
hell out of bruns and seeing if he'll react at
this point getting into the end of.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The third quarter.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But that first half from Halliburton was a clinic.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I mean he was to rebound short of a triple
double in the first half.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
What he did, Joe jed, you know, looking at lines
and having some fun with it as we do here.
His over under for points, rebounds and assists was thirty
five and a half for the game.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, he got you. You're feeling pretty good when you
can celebrate that A half of bills before half too.
I was all right, you're looking bill at the before
the last time out official time out of the second quarter,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Reediately going the live wagering opportunities. What has the market
given me?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'll tell you man, it is an eleven point lead
for the Pacers going to the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
The only thing I can say is, well, Nick's got
it where they want him, right, Hey, down eleven going
to the fourth quarter. Hey, we're good man, this is
what we wanted. We love being down ten eleven points.
We go to the fourth quarter, it's our quarter, let's go.
But I'm telling you, nothing's gonna matter unless somehow defensively
they can flip the script in the fourth quarter. Because really,
I mean, you watch the Pacers offensively, and Halliburton gets moving,
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He's got a lot of space and and I don't
know if it's just panic. I don't know if the
Knicks are losing their assignments, but they're just allowing the
Pacers to do anything they've wanted. I can't believe Pacers
miss as many shots aid they're shooting fifty five percent
from the floor. I can't believe it's it's that low.
Like I really had missed that mast. I feel like
they haven't missed one, like like since the early part
of the second quarter. Well you're oh, now marked with
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the three. That's the last miss. That was eighteen minutes
ago in game time, like real. The fact that it's
the eleven point game is stunning to me. So I
want to think that, Okay, maybe it's there. But at
the same time, I mean, the Pacers hoops, they're easy hoops.
There's no because like every time down the floor for
the Knicks, specially especially with Brunson. Yes, they want to
slow it down, so he's gonna try to, you know,
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try to back the defender down and try to turn
the lane and try to find somebody. The Knicks baskets
are all work right, and you need some kind of
easy stuff right obviously, but the Knicks offense is not
bad so far. But defensively you also need to make
them the other team work a little bit. And I
don't see any plays where I feel like, hey, the
pay boy. That was something that was Halliburton with two
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guys on him and the step back three or here
he was in the lane and he leans into the
contact like the hoops are just too easy. There's you got.
You gotta make him work at some point down the floor.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, the other part is we were watching final a
couple of minutes of the first half and as the
third quarter began, all the fifty to fifty balls fell
to Indiana right the thud to the side of the rim.
So you're in perfect rebounding position if it was a
true rebound. Instead it comes short, so it's an easy flow.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
There. There was another play that ball goes up.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You've got two rebounders somehow it scorts out to a
guy who's literally sitting on his ass to trigger a shot. Now,
Halliburnton missed the three, but it was indicative of the
way the prior two to three minutes a game time
had gone, where the ball is just finding the feet
of the Indiana Pacers for another wide open look or
a trigger back inside for the knick side of it. Again,
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they're taking care of business at the file line. Twenty
six of twenty nine thus far brunts and eleven of
twelve taking a beating. But you've seen it. There's no
easy layups, there's no transition. You don't expect to win
that time and again against the squad, right, you don't
want to run against the Pacers given their depth, and
they were pretty judicious with the minutes for Jalen Brunson
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again in the second quarter, he got a nice long rest,
figuring he's gonna wear some heavy minutes here down the stretch.
But defensively he's sitting at a minus sixteen lost getting
bumped off the block and again if you're not gonna
call the the fall as he's trying to get through
a screen and those kind of things consistently because It's
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like any other sport, right, you watch with your kid's
soccer game, any of you out there, or youth basketball, whatever,
you're not calling all the falls because you can't, right,
And that's certainly what's happened in this playoff series where
you start pushing the boundaries of how much can I
get away with a body or a hand hand check
or do you have to really leave an imprint of
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all four fingers across the guy's wrist and go, hey, Rev,
I'd like a challenge on this one, because that's what
we're seeing, a lot of a lot of holding down
on rebounding attempts.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So big challenge. Fourth quarter coming up. So here we
are again, eleven point lead for the Pacers over the
next fourth quarter, just underweight, and we make a big
deal obviously. John Halliburton, Tyre's Halliburton's dad dad at the
game tonight for the first time since getting banned because
he couldn't control himself and had to troll Giannis after
the Pacers eliminated the Bucks a couple of weeks ago.
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So he gets to come back to the game tonight
and now, look, I don't think there's any I don't
think there's any any question as to Hey, like I said,
they did the right thing. We brought him back at
the right time because look at the knight Halliburton's having. Now,
Frostburg says, we have the pregame speech right of Halliburton
and Tres speech. It's more of a chat between him
and pops, a chat between the Tyres and his dad.
We have that. Okay, Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Exclusive. Okay,
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let's say so this this is Tyres and John Halliburton pregame.
All right, let's go. Do you want to hear it? Yeah?
I got here. I got to hear what spurred Tyre's
Halliburton onto this incredible night. Wait for it? Ready, Yeah,
I'm dude. Everybody's ready, man waiting with baited bread pud
you hear me. It's gonna make you proud, daddy. I'm
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gonna make you so proud. You made you that proud
are You're gonna be so proud, proud, prow That is
really emotional, that really gotten. That is I'm now affected
as this fourth quarter you know what promise? Yeah he did.
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I mean there was a lot of back and forth
on that make me proud. I will I think I will.
I got it. I think we'll do it. I think
we got Okay, I'll make you proud.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I may not just asked and answered, you know,
the knowing nod or anything. It's a deep resonance to
that exchange, which makes me say, if you, if you
have the opportunity, you know, call call your dad, call
your grandpa, call.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
That person in your life and say that if he's
been banned from a game, and make sure he's okay.
But no, I mean, do I make you proud? Not?
I mean, where where can I now? Speaking of Dad's
being banned from games? Okay, speaking of dad from your
dad tonight, I bought my dad a ticket for the
the Ache game tonight. He is down there and Anaheim
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Berry sent me a picture from his seats already. He
parked in Ron Washington spot. He said to me, tell
him how he's in is to play first base? Watch
he calls me, right, because I told you last I
went to the game this past week and when when
I saw the Angels in the Marlins, A lot easier
to get tickets for that, right, Well, just a little bit,
and uh, you know, and I tell I always tell
you how great it is and you get you get
service at your seat, they bring you food. It's fantastic
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at Angels games. I mean, the thing is you have
to watch the Angels. But uh, my dad gets down
there and my dad said, so I decided to splurge
for preferred parking, And I said okay. He goes and
he calls me when he gets there. He goes, you
know where I'm calling you from right now? I go,
all right, what happened? Like he's calling me on the
way into work. And when he calls me, I'm like, okay,
what what's going on with something happened? Dad? What's going
He goes, you know, I'm calling you from My dad
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never says that I'm calling you from right now. I'm like, okay, prison, hello, Dad,
you and I'm in jail? Are you in? Are you
in Angels jail? Are you in like a jail under
the stadium? Did you get arrested? What happened? See you
in bootleg merch? He goes, I'm in my parking spot
and I'm about twenty yards from walking right into the stadium.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Now, how much is preferred parking at Angel Stadium.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
For my dad, who's a vet? Uh? Oh, there's a
discount for a vet. I think it's like, oh, yeah,
we had well, we had to actually had the vet discount.
At the playoff game with the Mets and the Dodgers
last year, we had they led, they saw him and
they said, hey, come on right through because he's got
the Vietnam Vet everything. As soon as we pulled up,
they go, no, sir, come right through here. We're like,
oh wow, my dad gives the wave and they waved him. Yeah,
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they did. And then my dad came out and he
had a big hat on, he had the sunglasses on.
He took him off.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Does he wear all that every time he can? Did
you see what kind of discounts he can get?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yes, he wears it.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
When he goes to Pavilions to go to the supermart.
I'm just walking in. He's got wristbands on. In the
whole nine of yards.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
This uh twelve pack of Guinness is uh sixteen dollars?
Not yes, sir? Oh oh sir, No, So he got
nine dollars. That's what I thought, Thank you. So he
calls the guy. He goes, I'm twenty yards from walking
into the stadium and he says, I'm just gonna kind
of saunter my way in and get there for batting practice.
He was so excited to get Did he really use
the term saunter though, Yeah, oh yeah, no, my dad.
(11:55):
Oh that's great, my dad, you hat some next level stuff.
You'd be some prize because you see, you know when
my dad comes on the show, some of the things
he says, right, you'd be surprised. My dad is one
of the smartest people I've ever met, Like some of
the things that he that he says and comes up with,
and the way he can do the New York Times
crossword puzzle on Friday and penn in about a minute
(12:16):
and a half where he just goes along, go, wow,
there there were you know, thirty seven across clues. You've
only got thirty five of them. Yeah, I'll see what
the you know, the sweetish word for bed bug is
on the way back down. I'll get that end.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And then.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
No, he doesn't wait, No, he generally takes him at
least he says he has a bad day if he
gets to four for wordle I was like, wow, okay,
I'm like sometimes I'm like, you know, sweating that out
at six. But I'm like, you know, I get it done,
but my dad's like, yeah, four is like a bad time.
I'm like, geez okay, he's like that. If there was
a cross if there was a speed crossword puzzle Olympics,
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my dad, I know, my dad would be at the
top of that. No, there's probably a professional circuit. So
they'd complain saying that the uh okay, if there was
like him, were coming and ruining it for if there
was an over sixty five, you know, even like like
the like the Senior crossword Puzzle Tour. But it's a saying,
with all this injury, how do we put him to
work for good? Now? Do we profit off him? You'd
be a bet on him. He goes, he goes to
(13:13):
a he goes to some right and we get him
drunk and he's walking around like yeah, yeah, yo, dude,
no one's gonna bet on this guy. And then boom,
just like color of money and then boom, the odds
go all the way down the tubes. You make all
kinds of cash on him. Yeah, we can only run
that circuit so long. It's a small thing regionally. He's
gonna have to be willing to travel. I am a genius.
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Well we got more from this game. Still a big
Pacer lead thirteen. Now, still a long way to go
in the fourth quarter, but you know, if the Pacers
(13:55):
don't start missing shots, it's gonna be a three to
one lead for Indiana. But straight ahead, a big story
out of basketball today. Something that's taking up our attention
for the last week turns out to not have happened
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Go to expresspros dot Com just under seven minutes left
to go. The Pacers lead the Knicks one to thirteen
one hundred. And you know, it's not like the Knicks
need any help looking bad in this game, but wow,
the officiating the last few minutes, I'm not considered it
saying it's costing the game. But there are three plays
the Pacers flopping on offense get to the free throw line,
Miles Turner twice grabs hold of Karl Anthony Towns's hand
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and won't let go, and Karl Anthony Towns is called
for the foul like you see it on the replay.
This is a bad look for the NBA. They're gonna
look at some of these fouls tomorrow and go, oh
my goodness, we just lost our minds for that stretch
early in the fourth quarter. Because this is what's this
is what's helping keep the Pacers lead. Like I'm watching
Myles Turner go. They let him do whatever he wants to.
I mean, he locks up, he locks up Karl Anthony
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Towns with his arm under Karl Anthony Towns's arm and
the referees call it, but really, but grabbing his hand
and not let it like they were holding hands. Yeah,
I was thinking, and Towns is trying to move his
hand out of the way. They call the foul on
Myles Turner.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Wow, well because Turner flailed away like how dare you
touch me? Look, you're also getting heat checked and Superstar
calls for Benedict Mathern.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, that's where we're at this game, Like that is
as good as Haliburton was, And it's great that Daddy.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Is there and he's trying to impress him at all.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
The fact Batherin has done more in this game than
he had the entire series combined and tripled. You're looking
at at a guy who's taken He checked threes from
the quarter they're all taking. He checked three guys says
like he's tackled Bruntson multiple times.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
No calls.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean he's going full ed Reid a couple of times.
Come on you me, Frosburg, Desaga and Mary could could
score on the nixt defense right now. We just have
to We just have to dribble around, get work the
shot clocked down, Watch the Knicks panic and one of
us is open for a show.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Towns or Bruntson is given up by the eight seconds
left hand. I really we're getting past one of them.
I mean, look, it's the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Clearly have no answer defensively, and it's yet another feather
in the cap of Rick Carlisle, who was completely out
coach TIBs in this series. So far, the Knicks seem
like they don't have an answer for whatever the Pacers want.
Right Game one, they didn't have an answer during the
comeback Game two. They started the game wanting to establish
Pascal Siakam, who had a Kevin Durant in his prime
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type game. How do you know they weren't ready for that,
and clearly tonight they weren't ready for Halliburton. Weren't ready
for anything offensively, because whether it's Halliburton making shots or
the Pacers getting open, looks like there's not again, there's
no shots where I go, wow, man, what are you
gonna do for that turnaround three from the corner with
a second left of the shot clock. No, everything is easy.
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Everything is easy for the Pacers to.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Say, yeah, everybody taking care of business except for your guy,
damn hard. So I guess you get that feather in
your cap that he's not gutted you. But Siakam once
again twenty four points ten to seventeen, couple of three
point shots for him. Nie Smith, who was questionable yesterday,
He's got sixteen plus twenty two on the night to
lead the squad. Turners got twelve, only two boards for him, which.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Is kind of curious.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
But Halliburton with the twenty eight fourteen assists, eight rebound night.
He's also got four steals and still with zero turnovers.
You want to talk about operational efficiency, Knicks for the game,
sixteen turnovers, Pacers slowly catching up at ten, but that's
your tail.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Of the tape. So we'll love more in this game again.
Time out on the floor. Knicks down by twelve, the
Pacers looking to go up three to one and really
take a stranglehold on this series. And maybe we'll start
our Pacers Thunder preview coming up in a bit. Yeah,
Paul Pierce having fun now in toligent pace is gonna
beat that? Yeah? Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Is he sitting around a campfire where he may or
may not have, you know, dipped into whatever was in
the canister?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
May you'll want to work again, you never know. May
may walk to work, you never know. He doesn't get
another take, he got his first take. Wrong. Yeah, oh
that's true. Thing's winning. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, you
got another take. You're down. No, no, no, Well if
you're only you're getting stuff changed, you get first take
on first take, you don't get you don't get sicked.
That's why the show is not called second take exactly. Yeah,
first take, first take. So we'll have more on this game,
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but another big story out of basketball. Earlier today, the
WNBA announced they could not substantiate a report of racist
fan behavior at the season opener between the Fever and
the Sky a few days ago. The quote coming from
the league in a statement, we have investigated the report
of racist fan behavior in the vicinity of the court
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based on information gathered to date, including from relevant fans,
team and arena staff, as well as audio and video
review of the game. We have not substantiated it. And
you know this is where when I when I talk
about situations at the WNBA can't afford to get into
you can't afford to get into rivalries broke breaking down
on a racial angle. Right, and now, what does the
(20:32):
story look like? This story looks like, Hey, here's a
story that gets manufactured because of the hard foul between
Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese, which was a result of
angel Reese pushing a player to play before and a
foul that Caitlin Clark committed that they both sad a
basketball play and people get upset because Angel Reese gets
gets loses that game by however many points. And now,
(20:54):
oh here's report. I heard this. I heard this said.
So now the Sky have to put out a statement
about it. We don't condone this behavior, the fever. We
have to put out a statement. You know, Angel Reese
talks about it, Caitlyn Clark talks about it. Now here
we find out it's nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Well, but we talked about it the night that had happened, right,
and well, our first chance to talk about it on
the monday, you know, you had the Sky coach. You said, well,
we found out what everybody else did. It's like it
wasn't something that was heard in the game or reacted
to which we watched the game. We watched it come
down to the end, and there was nothing until social media,
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which is you might as well have NBA whatever else.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Right that, by the way, bad day for the WNBA
with NBA sentime.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
But it's one of those things where it just started
to gestate what was it quote when everyone else did,
I think it's something that we heard about, and so
we're forthcoming and anything that the league is able to
do investigation wise.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Angel Res more or less said the same and corroborated that,
you know, and immediately, hey, we're glad that the league's
looking into It's like, okay, fine, but nobody on the
squad came forth saying I heard this, No, because you
would be pointing them out this night. You would be
pointing them out in real time like we see at
NBA games all the time. Someone says something untoward, the
(22:05):
bench reacts. Yeah. And this is where everything with the W,
with everything that's gone on in all their controversy since
Caitlin Clark and Angelies came into the league, with all
the controversy, what if I said, is the biggest thing,
show me you can handle success. This is an unprecedented
level of success for the W. Show me you can
handle it. And they can't because what did they do here?
(22:26):
They let social media launch an investigation where okay, wait
a minute, where look at was something said was of course,
you know, we don't condone this, we're looking into it. Boom,
take care of it right when you have the Sky
make a statement and the Fever make a statement, and
now we're launching an investigator. Okay, so now you've given
this credibility when all you did is has seen some
stuff on social media most likely this is all I
(22:48):
heard this at the game? Did you hear did you
hear this? I'm talk to people at the game wn basis,
don't worry about it. We got it right, don't worry
about it. We got it. Okay, we're going to take
care of this. Like this is where they need to
show we can handle this success. We can. We know
when something comes up that's a little bit rocky, we're
going to be able to handle it. Right. So that's
the number one thing is that they got to show
they can do it because it looks like social media
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made them make an investigation over something that didn't happen.
Right now. My other part is this is that this
is I always say my pr advice to the stars.
If I wasn't doing this, i'd be a public relations advisor.
What I would do is I would I would talk
to specific people. If I was pr advice and if
I had I had these people as clients. If I
had Caitlin Clark as my client, if I had Angel
Reese is my client. If I had Cheryl Reeve is
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my client. If I had Cheryl Swoops as my client.
If I had Cheryl Burke as my client. If I
had Cheryl Tigues as my client, Cheryl h if I
had Cheryl Hines as my client, if I had Cheryl
lad as my client, if I had Jackie Cheryl as
my client. He didn't want to talk about Texas A
and m Cheryl Hines.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You're going to get into a lot of other discussions, right,
n So my wan to stay away.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I would say this, right, I would say, look, quit
being petulant about stuff, Quit being petty, Quit pushing whatever
angle is here. I would tell Angel Reese, Hey, we're
worried about race. Don't repost the post about white girl
Caitlin Clark walking away from you after this play, after
you just put out a statement saying there's nothing out there.
(24:11):
You know there's no room for this kind of behavior
in the game. Right. I would say the same thing
the show will Reef. I would say, don't sit here
and say what about the rest of us? Because you're
upset your game is not on national television. When the
season starts, like last year, I would say these things.
I would say because here's the thing is what you
don't get. I'm telling you not to look petulant because
eventually you're just gonna look bad. You're gonna you're gonna
(24:31):
be stopped from whatever you want to achieve because you're
gonna start looking awful. Right, It's like the like you
think about players when they start flopping too much, and
you get the point with boy, they're great player, but
when they flop, you're like, oh, I can't even watch
I can't even watch Luca because he flops all the time.
I can't even watch So and So because they're flopping.
I can't watch Rashid Wallace. He flops all the time.
And and you want a really great player gets that
(24:52):
tag of all they do is flop, and it's really
hard to watch the same thing's gonna happen to these
players because if you continue to push out this pettiness,
in this petulance, you're going to look bad. Right, You're
gonna look bad. So let's just make let's just you know,
the WNBHVV will take care of stuff. Number one. But
the second thing is I would say, the players don't
do anything to add on to this, right and the
coaches don't do anything to add on to this, because
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you're just gonna look bad when this stuff goes on,
because it's gonna look bad on you. And I'm telling
you to protect you as my client that if you
keep pushing this stuff out there, eventually people are gonna
get sick of it. You know, right now this debate
is raging and the w is hot, but eventually people
are gonna say, I'm done. I'm done. I don't need
another Caitlin Clark angel restory that's not on the basketball court,
right I don't need another one of these things that's
(25:35):
not on the court. They're gonna have to keep. That's
eventually where people are gonna go. So I would tell them,
you gotta watch it right now, and I would just
cut and cut out whatever you can. Don't worry about crap,
play basketball, enjoy everything that's coming your way, Push the game,
push the league, push your rivalries. B if you want
to tell, if you want to make it about make
it about basketball. Basketball, basketball, that's what people like, That's
(25:55):
what people are gonna respond to. Make it about that
and everything will be okay. But this this is going
no where. No.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But that's the thing, right is, you know we talk
about the boy who cried wolf, and in this case,
you know, you bring race and and and certainly there
are enough people in every walk of and I use
the term journalism loosely, uh, that will chase that for
clicks and get their their talk in. And we certainly
had plenty of that across the media for the week
(26:22):
following Uh that that came out of it, people getting
their families involved or whatever else. And then they can
come back to oh, sorry, my bad, but they got
their engagement, they got their clicks. What whatever measurements that
you go through, it might have been a bad look,
but when they can present their next quarters numbers to
whoever they're looking to do deals with, tada, they won.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But you go only trained on the margins.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
With that, I think your people that you were trying
to bring in the eyeballs and attention to the w
NBA that you're not gonna win with that. Right, You'll
keep your diehards because they were there from the start.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
And if that's all you're interested, then fine, then stop
the pretense. Of trying to grow the game and just
be done with it, but to recognize that to sell
to folks consistently, it does have to be about the
actual product and not sideshow circuses. And in this case,
something absolutely fabricated by a couple of social media accounts.
(27:22):
Now it doesn't mean one hundred percent that nothing happened,
right they but whatever investigation.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Statement was, we couldn't find anything.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
They couldn't corroborate it, right, And I told you that
we were on Monday night.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I said, well, it's already been forty eight hours. If
you would have found something, you would have got something
and would have heard something. Right that, there was no
reaction to where there was anything, you know, heated in
that moment, because if it was truly happening in the game,
someone would responded, we've got enough of that in the
country and the globe as a whole. Like, you don't
(27:54):
need to fabricate it. You can find it for real
if you really want to.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
So you're only going to kill your product and your growth,
and you're going to take some of these players that
might have been growing an audience. And to your point,
between flopping and other types of scenarios, where it's not
about their on core performance. Folks are gonna tune out.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, I mean it's going to run hot and heavy
for a while, like people will, but eventually it's gonna
fans are gonna say, you know, I'm done, I'm done
with this, Like, Okay, here it is. This is new,
and like it's a whole new thing with the WB
and popular and and and and all the controversy and
people picking sides and who they like and who they don't.
But eventually it's going you know what, I don't have
time for that. I'm done with this. I'm kinda I'm
(28:37):
I'm mentally I'm mentally just drained from another one of
these conversations that really we've had too many times now, right,
So let's let's just let's let's just move on from this.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
But the other part, it goes back to discussion we've
had with Kate and Clark, going back to when she
was playing at Iowa and we were covering that team
running deep into the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Was she's chippy, she's chirpy, she.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Does not shy away from contact, and a hard fall
is sometimes just a hard fall. In fact, ninety eight
percent of the time, it's just a hard fall in
the construct of a physical game. Does it mean that
sometimes it doesn't get untoored to where you need to
pause and blow a whistle and get everybody calm down. No,
I mean we're gonna see those, but not every time
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that Caitlin Clark is fouled or commits a fall is
it's some egregious act, And in this case it was
absolutely absurd because of where the contact occurred.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Should you give a little extra shove? Yeah, maybe, but
in the end.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
It's it's a basketball play, all right? Play on exit
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Speaker 1 (29:46):
Just my advice. Eventually this is gonna turn on you
and you gotta just understand. Let's just get let let
go of the petulance in the pettiness right this week
instead of there, the league can do their thing right,
be in charge, show me you can do it, but
pr and managers, hey, listen, just just do because trust me,
it's gonna come back. There's there's the end game. Trust
trust me. You gotta be able to do your job. Yeah,
(30:06):
or find someone who can time not to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports. But guy's
been called the Tyrese Halliburton the Fox Sports Radio. His
debt ones got kicked out of here for getting in
front of Frostburg after a show. It's Steve Desager. No
I was waiting for it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
But he's never had a night this good, something like
that all the way. While we're talking about w NBA tonight,
Minnesota went to five and O edging Seattle. New York
now four and oh after whipping expansion Golden State and
Dallas won at Connecticut and a battle of oh and
four teams one oh nine eighty seven Page Beckers with
twenty one points. Now to the update of the NBA Playoffs.
(30:43):
It's Game four the Eastern Conference Finals at Indiana. PACER's
still leading one, twenty one, one fourteen. Over the next
just over two minutes to go, PACER's trying to go
up three games to one. It's been a high scoring
game from the start. Just in the first quarter there
were nearly eighty points combined. That's the most ever in
any conference final game for a first quarter. It was
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seventy eight to be specific, and through three the Pacers
were up to one oh two, most points allowed by
the Knicks through three of a playoff game since nineteen ninety.
Tyrese Halliburton has thirty two points, nine rebounds, fourteen assists
and no turnovers for the Pacers. Twenty seven points for
Pascal Siakam, Indiana, shooting fifty three percent from the floor.
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The Knicks led by the twenty nine points from Jalen Brunson,
twenty four for Karl Anthony Towns. He has eleven rebounds
twenty points for og Atanobi. The home team Pacers lead
by seven two ten to play in the NHL Playoffs.
Currently it's Edmonton still to one over Dallas with four
minutes to go, Oilers trying to go up three games
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to one in the West Final. Pass rusher Joey Bosa,
now with the Bills, is likely out until training camp
with a calf injury.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Wait wait, wait, Joey Bosa is hurting. It's a come on, see,
don't lie to me man. Don't why he's getting that
iron man awarded a training camp this year.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
This is kind of like that one driver at the
Indy five hundred over the Wision just in the warm
up laps the flag isn't even gone yet and he
crashed out.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You know what, the great job by Fox. Within five
minutes they had him for an interview.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes, well, what else was he doing? Come on over
and let's talk about this.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
By the way, you see, Fox got over seven million viewers.
That's that's a larger TV audience than for the Daytona
five hundred to start the NASCAR seasons. Only three times
in three decades that Indies had a larger TV audience
than Daytona.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And didn't they move that to a bigger stadium because
Caitlin Clark drove in it, so he wanted to make
sure that all the fans could get there to watch. Yeah,
it was originally at what like DePaul University. It was
actually Indiana University, Purdue University of Indiana. That's where they
had of that IUPU Y something like that. Actually at
(32:57):
an Indiana University of Pennsylvania is where Oh there is one.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yes, absolutely, let's update the baseball as the Red Sox
are tied in the bottom of the tenth at Milwaukee
one to one. As are all this, Chapman blew the save,
giving up the tying run in the bottom of the
ninth the Rockies are tied at the Cubs two to two.
In the bottom of the tenth inning, the Cubs say
A Suzuki with his fiftieth RBI of the season, Pete
Crow Armstrong with his forty ninth. The Dodger Shoeo Tani
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with his twentieth homer of the year, leads the Majors
LA one at Cleveland, nine to five. Philadelphia won again
two nothing over Atlanta. The Mets won they're fourth straight,
beating the White Sox six to four. Road winds for
the Reds, Twins and Cardinals. Detroit beat San Francisco three
to one, and currently the Astros lead the A's.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Eleven to one.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
In the bottom of the eighth again, Pacers lead with
under two minutes to go by seven.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O Nicks. Just miss
a bucket. Pacers going the other way. Looks like they're
gonna go well. They got shot, gets blocked out of bounds.
Looked like Siaka was going in for a Tomahawk dunk.
No so minute forty five left to go. Looks like
Karl Anthony Towns is okay. He bangednes on the previous possession.
He is all right. What bangnes bangese it happens? Uh
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so again seven point lead for the Pacers as we continue.
Is this gonna be an incredible mix comeback? Or is
this the Pacers up three games to one? We got
that and a play of the day with an exclamation
point coming your way next right here Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
For Sure, here we go goes on top.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's toping to.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Three d Lad Kevin Harlan until d with the call
of course, it's obi topping with the dagger three at
the end of a shot clock, Pacers are gonna go
up three to one here over the next They lead
it right now one twenty seven eighteen with fifteen seconds
left to go of more in this game coming up
(35:04):
in a couple minutes, but right now it's time for
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when you are the first person in Major League Baseball
to get to twenty home runs and it's still May,
well you get to be the play of the day.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
It's the first stitch the other way, Kwan steps back
onto the track.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
It is gone.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Sky scraping drive the other way. You know, Tani's got
his twentieth What the Otani? He says, third consecutive gave
him with the long hat.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
What the don Ton? Yeah, twenty twenty home runs for show? Hey,
Otani so far this season, and we still have a
little bit ways to go in May, especially since he's
now he's hitting, you know, a home run every game.
But here's a great stat right for all you Dave
Kingman fans. He's got twenty home runs and thirty five RBI.
(36:22):
This tells you the bottom of the lineup of the
Dodgers is really not getting on base. He's got twenty
home runs and thirty five RBI. Like that's that. I mean,
I didn't know that that was actually mathematically possible to
have twenty home run because you got to think, how
many RBIs does he have not on home runs, right,
like how many what does he have? Like four RBIs
not on home runs because some of them are two
(36:43):
run homers, on three run homers, a lot of are
solo homers. But twenty and thirty five for Oton.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, we're gonna have to go back and do the
count as the game goes on. Certainly, now with the
NBA game done, good job.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
It's been done for a while. It's been done well.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
But I mean, you know, I don't have to pay
attention to it anymore that you know, we can go
and start doing a countdown. I go back to let's
see twenty twenty one, because I immediately started thinking about Kyle Schwarber,
since he's been a leadoff hitter, that he had a
lot of the same. He had seventy two games with
Washington and split in time with them and Boston. But
(37:21):
in those seventy two games, he had twenty five home
runs and fifty three rbhid not quite not just pretty
quite the same race, Yeah, still two one, But the
point being that you know that that happens when you're
a power hit. I mean back to back games you
lead the game off. So I mean there's two of
them right there, right, so, but yeah, just an amazing clip.
(37:43):
He's back up at ninety six and seeing the ball well,
because there were some concerns a couple of weeks ago
long balls and not much else. But now there's still
for that Dodger lineup, as you alluded to, still a
lot of questions. I mean, we talk a lot about
the pitching staff, but the rest of the line certainly
getting under the microscope as well.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
What do you got for you have another big stat here, Frostburg.
What he got Well, we all know the incredible season
he had last year, right mm hmm. In fifty five
games this year, he's hit twenty home runs. How long
do you think it took him how many games last
year to hit twenty home twenty to get to twenty
when he hit fifty five seventy seventy five seventy five games,
(38:24):
Because he really hit it big in the second half
of the season when he got last year, he's gonna look,
I mean, he's it looks like he's gonna have no
problem hitting sixty, right, because when he gets hot, he
hits him in, but he doesn't go he doesn't have
like real he feels like his droughts are longer because
it's only like, you know, three games. Well, then he
hits a game, right, and then he hits one for
like five straight games in a row. Stipball, he had
(38:45):
a drought. You know, his drought is three games. Any
any player would say, Oh, I gotta have that. I mean,
he's gonna he's gonna hit sixty home runs this year?
Is he gonna drive in seventy five runs? Is he
goin sixty runs? Add sixty one runs and ninety five
Nobody cares and an o PS of one point one?
What happens in October? That's all that matters. Got sixty now?
(39:08):
Right now, after seeing this at the bottom of the
order for the Dodgers, is going, oh, guy, we really
got to pick it up. Man. We we've not been
doing our job that this is the numbers that this
guy has. We gotta do something. You gotta make it
look better. Better.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I don't know it'll well, but I mean, this becomes
the true legend of O TOWNI had a whole other way.
Look at what he does on his own. He's not
even getting the support of that back end of that roster.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah, but I mean, but twenty home runs already and
he's got himself out in front again. This is a
conversation I do not want to have right now. We'll
have it later on. I don't want to have it
right now. Who he is right now co MVP favorites
with in the National League. You don't want to have it.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
But we will have it because we're fair, we want
to be I just don't want to have it right
now because it just it. It upsets me. He's got
forty nine. I just had to watch the Knicks lose
at least the Mets one tonight. But you do it
right now? Noson, you don't have to talk about the Knicks. No,
we'll get to No, no, no, I'm not gonna do it. No,
(40:07):
I'm not gonna do it. No, no, no, no, I'm
not gonna me. It upsets me down. And you see
a lot of odds where at this because the Memorial
Day is a big time to look back at the
MLB season, what we've seen so far. Here's certain certain
benchmark days of the year in baseball, Memorial Day, fourth
of July Labor Day. What do we look back, what
is ahead of us? And looking and seeing right now, going, wow,
(40:29):
he actually this guy actually has more first place votes.
Can I take a guess? No, no, not a lot,
no guessing, there's no guessing. You can't guess. I can't
guess it. Rhy smashb something like that. Yeah, did you
say SpongeBob? Yeah, lives in a pineapple under the sea.
(40:51):
Somebody's got to check that guy's bat and TJ Yes,
absorbent and yellow and porous. Is he tj uh? Yeah, No,
that's a conversation we'll have another time. Not ready to
have a.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Psychologically, I could tell this knicks loss as much as
you carry mental well already you were not feeling it.
Holding of hands, Miles Turner really turned you off out
a whole other way.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
That call is really in the embodiment of this game
for you. It is a three to one pacers lead.
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