July 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Mike Harmon and Chris Plank got to the bottom of all the Dodgers' recent troubles/struggles. And the guys debate if Micah Parsons should leave the Cowboys after Jerry Jones' weird comments!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Greetings and welcome in.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
We begin another beautiful week here Fox Sports or Radio.
As the big Voice guy said, there is no Smith.
He is gone and gallivanting. Therefore, like Keith Richards, I'm
saddling up, sidling up to the big microphone in the spotlight.
I'll sing you a couple of songs over the course
of the week with some guest stars. First up, coming
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off the left of the stage, our guy Chris Plank
at Plank Show. You hear him on the weekends with
our guy Arnie Spanier. He's been doing yeomen's work between
his college football and softball work and then four straight
days here on the network. So let's see if he
sounds like his aforementioned colleague, Arnie Spander. It's Chris Blank
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what's going on, Chris.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Come on, man, four days in a row is child's
play here? It's it's all good, Jayson, God already fire.
Well you get it out of the way early, then
you're good. It's been good man. We're getting close to football.
The countdown is on. We got a game next Thursday
that everyone will be excited about and then they'll grinch
about two plays in because no one's playing, of course,
and then we're less than gosh, we're less than a
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month really away from the start of the first Saturday
of college football. So game on, Micha. Let's have some fun.
Tonight should be a fun week for you. You do have
a very I guess I should say, like rotating. It's
an electic mix that' you're gonna say. There's no settling
into a comfort zone. Is that in the contract? You
gotta have someone different every day. You can't just say hey,
(01:55):
I like Plank or I like Buyer. I know you
wouldn't like Arnie, but you just say, hey, that's the
person I want to be with every day.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Is that contractually? So it stays fresh?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, I mean, maybe Jason's got that in because it's
in place of him, But you know, for me, I
kind of throw it up. Scott and I come up
with a you know, cursory list, and then we see
how it falls out based on availability, based on other
needs at the network or people's other jobs and attending
to so they're in. It becomes a all right, here's
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what the computer spits back out.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
That is the boos very much like Dave Roberts very much. Well,
you just throw it in there and then it gives
you the lineup. By the way, I got to get
on that level. I have never not once had Scott
be like, hey, man, who you want. I gotta get
on that level like you Harmon I and Arnie you know,
runs the network. That's what he tells me. Yeah, right,
So I got to find that level.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Good stuff. Man, We'll pumped to be here. Should be
an awesome kind of a big deal in my own mind.
If that's what else. Glad to have you with as
we've got some college football we can get to with
some of the media days out there and some of
the rumor conjecture speculation a two hundred and fifty million
dollars to ken BEI mutumble like rejection from one conference
to a would be member earlier. But we'll start where
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I know your heart is, and that is also the
same spot on my guy Justin Frostberg, who's just those
ten days away from that Hall of Fame game, and
his guy Antonio Gates going in, our guy Steve Disager,
who's at the news desk, who you know all too well.
And of course for you, Melker, I've lived in Los
Angeles a long time. I'm a White Sox fan, so
the fact that they're actually scoring run is a very
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exciting thing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But let's talk about the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Let's talk about the defending champion and all the chaos
that has ensued. Tonight is mystery grab Bag Championship ring night,
where you can get one of five players. It's a
pretty good looking replica of the World Series ring. That's cool.
Sho heeo Tani is on the mound, that's fantastic. We've
got Freddie Freeman. He's gonna be in the lineup, but
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he tells people he thinks he's figured out in a
sleepless night how to fix his swing. Meanwhile, Mooki Bets
just said I don't know when asked about his continued
struggles going all the way back to the weight loss
and mystery illness that started the season. So all of
that things, all of those things converge into tonight, Chris,
the swoon of the Dodgers, the inability to get over
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against winning teams, overall being owned by the Milwaukee Brewers.
And then last night, just after yesterday afternoon, I should say,
here West Coast time, after all of the positivity and
grab ass that Clayton Kershaw played during the All Star Game,
he was back to being red ass. Clayton Kershaw, throwing
his glove and refusing to comment, figuring he'd get himself
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in trouble after several errors were committed in the field
to base running gaffs and everything else, and all of
a sudden, every string that was pulled right a year
ago looks like it's been snapped along the way, as
if we were in some horror movie.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
For the Dodgers this season.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
They're struggling, and they were struggling before the end of
the first half. Disager had this note last night, and
it absolutely blew my mind. Mookie Bets in July is
hitting just ten to fifty three, just ten. And again,
this isn't all on Mookie. I don't know how a
team that appears to have so much talent can be
this enough defensively and antipaus death. He makes this spectacular
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play and then has the one that I still don't
know how he missed it. I've tried to watch that
thing five or six. I don't know if he got
caught in the lights. I don't know what his excuse was.
And then you again, you mentioned Freeman's in the lineup tonight,
So that's good, but you know, glassnow gives you a
real What's frustrating about the suite to the Brewers is
that Tyler Glasnew gave you something, Mike. He gave you
something that was a solid outing from him and his
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first what opportunity since April Frostbury. I think that's right.
But you got something from your staff that you hadn't
consistently got this year. You got to do that took
me on the fourth. So it's a very confusing time.
I think was the hot streak of product of just
playing no offense to the White Sox, but just a
stretch of not very good baseball teams right where you
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look back saying, oh they won, like for it, they're good.
But then you realize they're now going up against good teams.
Brewers are tied for first skate of twins. Not so much,
they're they're in trouble right now in the American League Central.
But this is where you need to get right. And
it leads to a longer term question for me, which
is simply, are the Dodgers back? Are they going to
be a dominant team? Is this one of those things
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that guys get healthy and you're ready to go in
the postseason or has it kind of dropped a bit
because of the struggles and maybe some guys have, you know,
not really lived up to the expectations. Injuries are killing
this team right now, which I Mike that being so
consistent with this team over the last couple of years
is absolutely mind boggling. It just makes no sense to me.
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But I bring that up with NFL teams all the time.
I did it with the Chargers much and I used
to get things thrown at me by Frostburg for doing
so and so many other teams, the Ravens for years,
like what's going on in your training rooms.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Right where you were this year after year?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And I know the Dodgers, given the financial resources at
their disposal, they can generally buy their way out of trouble,
and certainly we'll see in the next two weeks what
that could be. And yes, you got everybody getting ready
to ride back into the mix, be it Blake Snell
or some of these others who have been waiting Glass
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now who you mentioned. But will he make his next start?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
We've seen him. Ask out right, we've seen those issues
through the bat how does he recover five days later? Otani?
How much will you really be able to stretch him out?
We've seen three innings. How far does that go?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Tonight?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
He's going to start this game and then we'll see
Dustin May again. But it just you're bringing up the
injury issue. I mean last year they navigated it about
as well as you could.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean they.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Pulled the string at every turn, all those starting pitchers,
all of the relief appearances, and the opener with Keith
a Hernandez, although now he's got an injury to his
off arm so he can't do any of that. But
all of that to say, I mean, you've navigated through it.
But as much as you marvel at what because they're
still in first place and you've got San diego chasing
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and we'll see what happens. They finally got a good
start out of do Yeah, no, that's just it. You
got these teams hanging around, and when we go to
strength and schedule, well, Dodgers have the fourth quote easiest
path remaining a lot of losing squads coming up here
series for series, so some opportunity maybe to create some
distance again, but banking on full health and for every
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turn in the analytics to work right again, it's a
dangerous proposition and flirtation. And if they don't get right
hitting wise, I mean you brought up the PA has
a fielding issue and then base running one oh one.
I mean we're seeing on display time and again with
the squad some of the fundamentals have just gone out
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the window.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
But the injury issues is something.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
That I think from an organizational standpoint, you got to
pull back and just try to figure out what in
your training processes. Even if you have been really good
at picking up the reclamation projects from other squads, you
know what's going on, what's in the water for your
own organization. Because while you can buy your way out,
it's a dangerous way to live, but.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
It's still it's pretty cool to see show hee Otani's
he just jogs out to no matter that this thing started.
It's it's a very it's not necessarily a full sigh
of relief, but it's one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
All right.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
I took my tongue so the indigestion went away for
a little bit. See him out there for a couple
of innings. Now, is he only going three tonight? I
thought they were going to try to push him.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
They may try to stretch. I think it's going to
be dependent on on the pitch count and ease. Right,
we talked about stressful out stressful innings, and the fact
that the first pitch got tattooed for a home run
is probably not the ur second pitch of the game.
He goes sailing out Byron Buxton, is twenty three home
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run of the year. All right, Recess, that's great start,
a great start. Well, you have him a fatball exit
velocity of about one hundred and five miles.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
An hour, so now you know when you're struggling, let's
just go ahead and have the bottom completely fallout. But
I still it'll be very interesting to see what the
moves are coming up in a couple of weeks now
with the trade deadline, you know, it's still because of
the job their front office is done. And not to
like completely dodge your home or out, but it's still
one of the top prospects, one of the top farm
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systems in all of Major League Baseball? And you know,
do you start risking some of that? Do you really
swing for the fences? Do you call Pittsburgh and say,
all right, what do you want for Paul Skiings?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know actually won today, Chris, I saw that, you know,
that first one since May twenty eighth?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
So hold on, I just want to give you an
idea how behind my feet is for the game right now?
Boom Byron Buxton just hit a home run. It's one Minnesota,
but it's a h It really is kind of a
fascinating time to decide if your buyers are selves and
not just for the Dodgers. Right look at the Red
Sox and are you satisfied with just kind of battling
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for that wild card? Is that where you want to be?
Or do you think, hey, I can get a little
bit more and and maybe if we get in the
wild card, great, but then we're set for the future.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I know this, the Dodgers are not a team that's
going to be in any other mode than buying. They're
gonna be out there trying to find the pieces that fit.
If it's if it's getting a third basement, if it's
getting involved in schemes or another starter, if they have
to truly go and find themselves a closer.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I don't know what it.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Is, but Mike, there's there's no if, ans or butts
about it. This is one of those that it's kind
of hard to explain away with just how bad it's
been for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Struggle bus has certainly been there. And what's funny is,
you know you get the shot and freud of it
all where folks are gonna be very excitable because you
got to explain that one to me, The shot and
that is taking joy in the misery of others.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Okay, I don't have to google that.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
There's a whole do it in song form from Avenue
Q I'm a Publisher, which which I have always described
since seeing it off Broadway many years ago as the
Muppets on crack Okay, and they have a whole song
about schadenfreude. So you can go run with that one
a little bit as you will.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Hey, Hey, who said we wouldn't learn something tonight on
the show I'm here for.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
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get us at Plank Show, at Swollen Dome, at Fox
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how you're listening, and whether you're enjoying some of the
current struggles of the Los Angeles Dodgers. We coined them
the Evil Empire several years ago. As you know, we
are ahead of the curve once the buying spree really
started going. And to your point about the wild card,
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that's the beauty and the horror of all of this
stuff when you get to the trade deadline, Because once
upon a time you knew where that dividing line was right.
And now you start looking at well, here's our expected schedule,
here's the guys coming back from injury. Here's all that.
I'm a White Sox fan. I just want them to
play spoiler to somebody. I don't care who pick a
name out of the hat, that one team gets wrecked
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because of us.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
That's my goal. I just I was looking. Do you
let's see here, White Sox, We're thirty games under five hundred. Okay, okay,
join it.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They just swept the Pirates. GM was getting fired because
of them. So you got that. They were beating up
on the Rays the last I saw. Now, my screens
are replete with images of sho Heyo Tani wherever I
look right now. So you got that going for you.
So but you know, look, the long road begins with
the first step. I can't be a front runner. I'm
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still celebrating two thousand and five. You know that title
that ESPN refuses to ignore college one of the greatest
pitching performances in baseball history. That's starting for hell, they
put a statue up of Burley last week. There's my
celebration moment. That's all I got right there, Chris, that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's it. I'm living twenty years ago. All right, a
strikeout for Otani.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Here, we're keeping an eye on this game as it
rolls forward Minnesota with the one dot delayed here in.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The top of the first.
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what's going on?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Buddy?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Welcome to the party as we get ready for what
we got ten days left till we get our Hall
of Fame game and all of that excitement, which is
at the end of the weekend. There's a nickelback show too.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Who knew? You didn't know and you didn't care?
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Actually I did. I saw it somehow popped up on
my Twitter. But what I didn't know is like that
they're like and special guests like Rudy McNuggets or whatever,
like whoever the special guy. I'm like, I totally don't
know this person. I'm like, I don't know. Did I
know this person? Like? Is this that big in Canada?
I don't know, you know, because they're Canadian. But yeah,
if you seriously though, if you see like the promo stuff,
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there's like this other guy who they're with, who's wearing
like an old school Houston Oilers jersey, and I'm like,
don't know that guy. I am unfortunately familiar with Nickelback.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm gonna have to go do the deep dive of
what's going on there.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys probably know him, like you guys.
I mean, it's good to be me an old man thing.
But AnyWho, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Right there with you.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Hey, you want to start with some Lloyd Howell fun
Now he's now he's his other job. You go through
the expense reports JC Tretter, He's no longer gonna seek
a job in this process.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Demorris Smith.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I haven't read the book yet, but does this mean
he was complicit or just dumb.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
No, jeez, you're gonna put You're gonna put Lloyd Howell
on him. I mean, I I don't think Hell, I'll
see how you can do that.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Well, just say it in terms of the overall union
ineptitude and some of those discussions about guarantee that.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Right now, I'm picturing d Smith like that Kermit Defrogg
meme of him sitting back to sipping his teake. I mean,
de Smith, like, look how it looks. I mean, Jesus,
you can say to one about him having a replace
a legend, you know what I mean, Like, hey, you
got a place, and he was never gonna be it
for everybody. And he certainly had his faults, and that
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union remains the weakest of the professional sports unions, despite
the sport making more money revenue wise than any other
and frankly more than most of them combined. But I
think history won't be quite as unkind to him as
I mean. He came in and was immediately in a
bit of a labor war, and it was one in
which the owners were willing to lock people out. It
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was a really tough circumstance and I feel like, yes,
they could have done a lot of things better. But
the number of people who left when d Smith left,
who said now is the time to take my buyout
because this guy coming in looks like a total clown.
It was a charade. How he was elected, it was
everything was a mystery guys themselves. I think some of
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them didn't even really know who else they could have
voted for. The process was a sham, and it has
sham results. And whoever takes over is now going to
be I don't know, at most a couple of years
removed from the league, opting out of these TV deals
and you know, having this global turn it into more
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of a global sport, and they're going to cram eighteen
games down. People's thoats and franchise tags aren't going anywhere,
and they're going to continue to play more games abroad
than ever before. And I just think they're going to
get whatever they want. And the Union is in an
incredibly vulnerable place right now, far more so than anytime
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during D Smith's the controversial tenure.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I'm not a smart manson, Jason Smith's out on, Chris
Plinkson and Jason Locke for so good to talk to
you man, I'm not a smart dude, so I don't
really know the ins and outs of how this affects
anything now for the Players Association, because it seems as
if what the CBA is in place until at least
twenty thirty, So are we just exhale labor piece.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We don't have to worry about about strikes or anything.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
How does it affect them? I mean, I feel like
if you read the sixty one page document, considering it
was a kangaroo court stacked against them as a special
master who's never going to look the you know, is
never going to throw too many rocks at at the
five million town guerrilla who employs them. But like, I
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feel like that collusion case was a win for them.
Then they're so inept and so compromised, and J. C.
Trader acted like such a jackass that they collectively decided
not even to spread the word like that they they
kind of sort of won a collusion case. And then
they're so backwards and and and so myopic that they've
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then colluded with the league. They can't mail the fightings.
I mean, you're gonna tell me how it affect the players?
How do you think it affects with Mark Jackson, I'm
more as the fans.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
How it affects us watching a day to day. I mean,
we're not gonna have to worry about a lockout or anything.
I mean obviously no, it.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Effects mean well, I mean I don't know, I mean eventually,
I I don't. I mean I can't answer that question
because I don't. I mean, you're I don't know that
this is rock bottom. I can't remember how many times,
like with Jimmy Has I'm running the Browns, I'm like, well,
this has to be rock bottom. You know, it's never
rock bottom, So I don't, I don't. I mean, are
they going to clean up their process?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like?
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Are they? Is this going to be transparent? It's if
it's not, I mean, how will it affect it if
someone gets in there who doesn't know what they're doing,
Could that, you know, further hasten or prolong a potential
workstopic I don't, I don't know. I mean, is is
the PA going to be ripe with clicks? And is
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that going to make it even harder to negotiate? How
empowered will this person be? I mean from a football
day to day watching games, you know, follow the play
all that. No, But in terms of the players, oh,
the players can definitely continue to get hosed, and even
more so than ever by having completely enough leadership at
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the helm that doesn't even isn't even smart enough to
know when they've won.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Because that's always been the question in terms of the
rank and file, Jason like, where we've got the different
levels that players are at, salary wise, tenure, and trying
to get everybody on the same path to vote towards
the same things has always been a challenge. But now
how far removed does someone have to be from the
institutions to be trusted at this point?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
I mean, I don't know how to answer that. I mean,
it sounds like the last time around, the reps and
the rank and file weren't even on the same page
as to the process itself. And if we're now led
to believe that the executive Committee didn't even think this
guy was worthy of it in the first place, yet
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they passed it along to sort of the popular vote,
I mean, it's hard to speak about because it was
so shrouded in mystery. We didn't even know Moyd how one,
and up until recently most people didn't even know who
the hell he was running again, Like I I don't know.
I mean, he clearly was doing clownish, buffoonish stuff. He
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wasn't there that long. This started immediately. How yeah, Like,
how did he ever get that position in the first place?
How much of a leadership vacuum was there? And is there?
You know, do they need to have an independent audit
and some third party come in there and make recommendations?
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Like do they need to make it a prerequisite that
whoever they hire next has had significant experience at a
different labor union maybe ideally a sports labor union, and
has been you know, in somewhat of a prominent role,
whether current or past. Like yeah, I mean and certain, Uh,
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there's discord. There's a lack of harmony. I think among
the players. We're talking about what is it right now? Right?
You got ninety guys on rosters, You've got thirty teams.
Do the math. It's a lot of people at various
points in their career, with various earning potential and various
earning past and various earning futures. It's it's it's it's
(25:26):
hard to get them on the same page. I mean,
looks how hard it is to get thirty two billionaires
on the same page, and now we're talking about, you know,
twenty seven hundred guys.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
It's gonna be tough. Jason locking for is our guest
all right on the well kind of on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
It looks like Michael Parson's gonna be still showing up
at Cowboys camp. But Jerry Jones is doing Jerry Jones things.
The bottom line more than anything else. He usually gets
these deals done. What kind of situation do you feel
like this ends up being for the Cowboys? Do they
get it done? Does it cost him too much? Or
could this one drag.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
On a bit?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
No, they'll get it done. They'll get it done, probably
right before this. These stars, Yeah, it'll cost them too much.
They'll have the egg on their face. I'll probably regret
it within a couple of years. It's just the same
old dog and pony show. I mean, like we were
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talking last week, Garry eats this stuff up. I mean
the fact that there's all this discord and disharmony, and
then he eventually gives the guy more than anybody else
would have. And so you know that the guy eventually
gets a smile on his face. But the star culture
continues and certain people are propped up and there's an
underbelly to that roster. There's never really cohesion in that
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locker room because certain guys are treated like rock stars
and you know, everybody else just there's sort of everybody else.
And you know, I think Jerry's gotten increasingly callous and
slip it with how he talks about injuries and talks
about players worth. And it really kind of started, you know,
(27:10):
around the Kaepernick stuff, and I feel like it's kind
of escalated since then, and he continues to message to
that locker room in a way that I don't think
resonates with a lot of those guys, especially the ones
who aren't being paid his best to breathe in their positions.
So yeah, I mean he'll get his, like that got his,
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but he'll end up hurting the team because of the
contract structure and because of what else they won't be
able to do. And he just he's just so stuck
in his own ways, and the older he gets, the
more stubborn he gets, and it's his way or the highway,
and it's just going to be another I think, pedestrian
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season in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Another big effort from US here out on Monday night
from our guy, Jason Lock and for at Jason Lock
ANDFA is where you find him in the Twitter verse,
see what he's got going on the Wanta bet podcast,
and so much else than he does one five to
seven the fan there in Baltimore, Jason, thanks for taking
a few time minutes out with us here on a
Monday night. Next time we'll be talking about more camp
(28:19):
fun and getting ready for that Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah, get on Malmo and get on FC cloth and
from the Czech Republic tomorrow and Champions League qualifying. Think
of that. Take them both on the money line, maybe
Parlam together.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Malmo is a wonderful place to visit, by.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
The way, gorgeously Yeah, it's wonderful, lovely.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, I can't wait to go back. Thanks for hanging
out with us, buddy. We'll talk to you again, guys.
Thank you a little bit of betting advice on the
way out for you there, Plank. Can't beat that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Welcome back in Fired up to be with you here
at Jason Smith show with Me and Mike Carbon there's
no Jason Smith this week on vacation. Yes, the back
end of the week he will be sampling Muskrat dinners
in Detroit. So if you're on the streets of Detroit,
look out for a guy wearing nothing but mets garb
on purpose.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
He's going to Detroit.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, he vacations in Detroit. It's where his wife's family's from.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Oh, very cool. I've never been, so I can't talk
any trash on it. Everything I know about Detroit I
learned from eight Mile.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It really just kind of comes down to this.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
If I'm in the summer months and I live in
southern California, where the hell am I going?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's gonna be better Detroit? Evidently.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Well, I mean, you know, there was a kid rock
line where he's saying, if Heaven ain't a lot like Detroit,
I don't want to go.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I just I always took Jason to be a beach guy,
like to get away and want to be in like
a scenic area. But as you laid out, you live,
you work every day in Los Angeles, kind of hard
to beat that scenery on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
He's pastier than I am, so I don't think he
sees the sun.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Oh are you guys kind of like powder?
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Remember that movie?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Is that what we are with Jason White? To that level?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But you know, I mean, look enough dog walking and
enough soccer tournaments for me.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm some shade of red most of the time.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
At one point, about six weeks ago, they could have
hired me as one of those actors, you know, like
when of the movie's coming out and all of a sudden,
like they're in the third row and they look like
someone from a horror movie or whatever, and they stand there.
I could have been a stand in for the thing.
Like I had such a bad case of sunburn. My
skin was peeling and like got all scaly looking. I
(30:30):
could have passed for this iteration of you know, cousin Richie,
who's gonna play him in the In this current iteration,
he'll get you if you're not cared.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
For the Sun's undefeated. Man, it'll get you if you're
not caring. No, that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And one you're as pasty as I am. You go
from what I am to beat red really past. There
is no tan, There is none of that all right.
So we've got Big Ten media days coming up, and
the billion dollar question, multi billion dollar question when you
talk about the future of college athletics, and we have
many of them that will traverse a little bit over
the course of the night and throughout the week as
(31:02):
we go, is what the playoffs look like after this
coming year, because we'll have a title game on the
nineteenth of January. And then you back that out so
you get those travel plans in place. But if you
want to go looking further of how you have to
budget and how you have to analyze things, well, it
gets a little more chaot r at your mark of
the Big twelve likes his five and eleven kind of situation.
(31:25):
You're five champions and you're eleven at large, but.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
For the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
In an interview with Joel Klatt a few weeks ago, Petiti,
the new Big Ten commissioner, outline the idea of the
four four two two one. Now we'll see what he
does and in terms of verbalizing that this next iteration
in front of all the assembled media masses, but four
for the Big ten, four for the SEC and Greg
(31:50):
Zanche always you know, looking for global expansion. His own self,
and then we start going down, you know, for the
for the Big twelve in ACC and everybody else as
we go through. So you have automatic bids would be
thirteen of the sixteen as laid out in that interview
with Joel Klatt. And now it's the constant fight for
(32:12):
supremacy as we see teams getting gobbled up in conference realignment.
Maybe some buyer's remorse for schools like USC and some
others when they realized what was could have been if
not for some bad media rights deals all the way
back then, Hi, I remember that that was fun. But
(32:33):
for tomorrow, I think that's that's the billion dollar question
in all of it. Chris does he double down on
automatic bids?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
And you know that interview with Joe Clatt or I
don't know, Joe Clatt talking to Tony Pettitia really seemed
like it was more Joe Clatten, Yeah, and yeah, you know,
but they even when it is kind of you know,
convoluted as going for four two and a half two
and a half one, we'll give that third a spot
(33:01):
in the Big twelve or the ACCC or whoever's coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
just it made it made no sense. Listen, it's not
an invitational. It's a tournament, and you don't give automatic
bits outside of a champion unless it's an invitational. I'm
not I was out a fan of this when it
came out. Mike, I don't know where you stand on it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I'm a Big ten apologist, a proud Northwestern alump, so
so good for bids. Well, no, I don't agree with
it in a as a radio host and a larger
thought process. But you know, damn it, my guys, anybody
been Illinois quote representing the Big ten? But TD said,
that's my job.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
But I mean, in most situations, if you're at sixteen,
if you're at sixteen teams, you're probably getting four just
about every single year. If you're the Big ten anyway, right,
you're definitely getting four about every year. If you're the SEC,
you know, the Big twelve and the a SEC can't
support this, they can't come out. And obviously Brett Yormar
(34:02):
a couple weeks ago Big twelve media day down in Frisco, Texas,
he was like, we are five and eleven five automatic bids,
eleven at large qualifiers and they have to be because
they can't take less the first time they take less,
will take more and more from them. Now that's shit, right,
when there's that negotiation, right, they'll take more and more
from them. So you've got to stay strong with five
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and eleven if you're the Big twelve in the ACC.
But the Big ten apparently wants to force the SEC
to play nine conference games. But they sure as hell
don't care that the ACC only plays eight conference games too.
You don't hear him grinching about that at all.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Well, and that's where the curiosity of all this happens,
right when we're talking about the size of the conferences
as it. I mean, I remember back in the day
when the Big ten was still legitimately ten before Penn
State came on, and then after that it was a
land grab and bit by bit, like I actually registered
the big twenty dot com domain name good call were
(35:00):
a head and that we might still be. We might
still be aheading there as we go. But it's just
the idea of the absurdity of some of this. But
also we'd been seeing the prediction of the super conferences
so long ago, right where we just have a couple
of sixteen or thirty two team super conferences in the end,
(35:20):
and everybody else is playing off in their own little
sphere and navigating their own globe, which still may end
up becoming the case as more of the rights deals
come to fruition and the curiosity here. But certainly, if
you're not the big ten or SEC, you've got to
do everything you can to talk about the greatness of
at large teams. Otherwise you're just going to be lost
(35:42):
in the shuffle.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, and especially if you're only in these projections getting
two bids, and that's the case, you gotta say no.
So AC Jim Philp's gonna speak this week to ACC
Media Day coming up later in the week.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
We'll learn a lot.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
This would be very interesting week to see if anyone really,
as Brett Yormark put it a couple weeks ago, doubles
down on their beliefs.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Well, and everybody else still has to figure out how
to pay everybody and where the proper dollars and cents are.
And because you are my college football guy at playing show,
find me over at Swollendome. We'll talk about that coming
up next as we continue. Because Sarkesian had some interesting
comments on the future of this college football wave.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
We got that next on Fox sports radio,
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
We begin another beautiful week here Fox Sports or Radio.
As the big Voice guy said, there is no Smith.
He is gone and gallivanting. Therefore, like Keith Richards, I'm
saddling up, sidling up to the big microphone in the spotlight.
I'll sing you a couple of songs over the course
of the week with some guest stars. First up, coming
(00:50):
off the left of the stage, our guy Chris Plank
at Plank Show. You hear him on the weekends with
our guy Arnie Spanier. He's been doing yeomen's work between
his college football and softball work and then four straight
days here on the network. So let's see if he
sounds like his aforementioned colleague, Arnie Spander. It's Chris Blank
(01:11):
what's going on, Chris.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Come on, man, four days in a row is child's
play here? It's it's all good, Jayson, God already fire.
Well you get it out of the way early, then
you're good. It's been good man. We're getting close to football.
The countdown is on. We got a game next Thursday
that everyone will be excited about and then they'll grinch
about two plays in because no one's playing, of course,
and then we're less than gosh, we're less than a
(01:33):
month really away from the start of the first Saturday
of college football. So game on, Micha. Let's have some fun.
Tonight should be a fun week for you. You do have
a very I guess I should say, like rotating. It's
an electic mix that' you're gonna say. There's no settling
into a comfort zone. Is that in the contract? You
gotta have someone different every day. You can't just say hey,
(01:55):
I like Plank or I like Buyer. I know you
wouldn't like Arnie, but you just say, hey, that's the
person I want to be with every day.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Is that contractually? So it stays fresh?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, I mean, maybe Jason's got that in because it's
in place of him, But you know, for me, I
kind of throw it up. Scott and I come up
with a you know, cursory list, and then we see
how it falls out based on availability, based on other
needs at the network or people's other jobs and attending
to so they're in. It becomes a all right, here's
(02:25):
what the computer spits back out.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
That is the boos very much like Dave Roberts very much. Well,
you just throw it in there and then it gives
you the lineup. By the way, I got to get
on that level. I have never not once had Scott
be like, hey, man, who you want. I gotta get
on that level like you Harmon I and Arnie you know,
runs the network. That's what he tells me. Yeah, right,
So I got to find that level.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Good stuff. Man, We'll pumped to be here. Should be
an awesome kind of a big deal in my own mind.
If that's what else. Glad to have you with as
we've got some college football we can get to with
some of the media days out there and some of
the rumor conjecture speculation a two hundred and fifty million
dollars to ken BEI mutumble like rejection from one conference
to a would be member earlier. But we'll start where
(03:07):
I know your heart is, and that is also the
same spot on my guy Justin Frostberg, who's just those
ten days away from that Hall of Fame game, and
his guy Antonio Gates going in, our guy Steve Disager,
who's at the news desk, who you know all too well.
And of course for you, Melker, I've lived in Los
Angeles a long time. I'm a White Sox fan, so
the fact that they're actually scoring run is a very
(03:29):
exciting thing.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But let's talk about the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Let's talk about the defending champion and all the chaos
that has ensued. Tonight is mystery grab Bag Championship ring night,
where you can get one of five players. It's a
pretty good looking replica of the World Series ring. That's cool.
Sho heeo Tani is on the mound, that's fantastic. We've
got Freddie Freeman. He's gonna be in the lineup, but
(03:53):
he tells people he thinks he's figured out in a
sleepless night how to fix his swing. Meanwhile, Mooki Bets
just said I don't know when asked about his continued
struggles going all the way back to the weight loss
and mystery illness that started the season. So all of
that things, all of those things converge into tonight, Chris,
the swoon of the Dodgers, the inability to get over
(04:16):
against winning teams, overall being owned by the Milwaukee Brewers.
And then last night, just after yesterday afternoon, I should say,
here West Coast time, after all of the positivity and
grab ass that Clayton Kershaw played during the All Star Game,
he was back to being red ass. Clayton Kershaw, throwing
his glove and refusing to comment, figuring he'd get himself
(04:39):
in trouble after several errors were committed in the field
to base running gaffs and everything else, and all of
a sudden, every string that was pulled right a year
ago looks like it's been snapped along the way, as
if we were in some horror movie.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
For the Dodgers this season.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
They're struggling, and they were struggling before the end of
the first half. Disager had this note last night, and
it absolutely blew my mind. Mookie Bets in July is
hitting just ten to fifty three, just ten. And again,
this isn't all on Mookie. I don't know how a
team that appears to have so much talent can be
this enough defensively and antipaus death. He makes this spectacular
(05:21):
play and then has the one that I still don't
know how he missed it. I've tried to watch that
thing five or six. I don't know if he got
caught in the lights. I don't know what his excuse was.
And then you again, you mentioned Freeman's in the lineup tonight,
So that's good, but you know, glassnow gives you a
real What's frustrating about the suite to the Brewers is
that Tyler Glasnew gave you something, Mike. He gave you
something that was a solid outing from him and his
(05:44):
first what opportunity since April Frostbury. I think that's right.
But you got something from your staff that you hadn't
consistently got this year. You got to do that took
me on the fourth. So it's a very confusing time.
I think was the hot streak of product of just
playing no offense to the White Sox, but just a
stretch of not very good baseball teams right where you
(06:05):
look back saying, oh they won, like for it, they're good.
But then you realize they're now going up against good teams.
Brewers are tied for first skate of twins. Not so much,
they're they're in trouble right now in the American League Central.
But this is where you need to get right. And
it leads to a longer term question for me, which
is simply, are the Dodgers back? Are they going to
be a dominant team? Is this one of those things
(06:26):
that guys get healthy and you're ready to go in
the postseason or has it kind of dropped a bit
because of the struggles and maybe some guys have, you know,
not really lived up to the expectations. Injuries are killing
this team right now, which I Mike that being so
consistent with this team over the last couple of years
is absolutely mind boggling. It just makes no sense to me.
(06:47):
But I bring that up with NFL teams all the time.
I did it with the Chargers much and I used
to get things thrown at me by Frostburg for doing
so and so many other teams, the Ravens for years,
like what's going on in your training rooms.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Right where you were this year after year?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And I know the Dodgers, given the financial resources at
their disposal, they can generally buy their way out of trouble,
and certainly we'll see in the next two weeks what
that could be. And yes, you got everybody getting ready
to ride back into the mix, be it Blake Snell
or some of these others who have been waiting Glass
(07:21):
now who you mentioned. But will he make his next start?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
We've seen him. Ask out right, we've seen those issues
through the bat how does he recover five days later? Otani?
How much will you really be able to stretch him out?
We've seen three innings. How far does that go?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Tonight?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
He's going to start this game and then we'll see
Dustin May again. But it just you're bringing up the
injury issue. I mean last year they navigated it about
as well as you could.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I mean they.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Pulled the string at every turn, all those starting pitchers,
all of the relief appearances, and the opener with Keith
a Hernandez, although now he's got an injury to his
off arm so he can't do any of that. But
all of that to say, I mean, you've navigated through it.
But as much as you marvel at what because they're
still in first place and you've got San diego chasing
(08:10):
and we'll see what happens. They finally got a good
start out of do Yeah, no, that's just it. You
got these teams hanging around, and when we go to
strength and schedule, well, Dodgers have the fourth quote easiest
path remaining a lot of losing squads coming up here
series for series, so some opportunity maybe to create some
distance again, but banking on full health and for every
(08:34):
turn in the analytics to work right again, it's a
dangerous proposition and flirtation. And if they don't get right
hitting wise, I mean you brought up the PA has
a fielding issue and then base running one oh one.
I mean we're seeing on display time and again with
the squad some of the fundamentals have just gone out
(08:54):
the window.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
But the injury issues is something.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
That I think from an organizational standpoint, you got to
pull back and just try to figure out what in
your training processes. Even if you have been really good
at picking up the reclamation projects from other squads, you
know what's going on, what's in the water for your
own organization. Because while you can buy your way out,
it's a dangerous way to live, but.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
It's still it's pretty cool to see show hee Otani's
he just jogs out to no matter that this thing started.
It's it's a very it's not necessarily a full sigh
of relief, but it's one of those.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
All right.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
I took my tongue so the indigestion went away for
a little bit. See him out there for a couple
of innings. Now, is he only going three tonight? I
thought they were going to try to push him.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
They may try to stretch. I think it's going to
be dependent on on the pitch count and ease. Right,
we talked about stressful out stressful innings, and the fact
that the first pitch got tattooed for a home run
is probably not the ur second pitch of the game.
He goes sailing out Byron Buxton, is twenty three home
(10:00):
run of the year. All right, Recess, that's great start,
a great start. Well, you have him a fatball exit
velocity of about one hundred and five miles.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
An hour, so now you know when you're struggling, let's
just go ahead and have the bottom completely fallout. But
I still it'll be very interesting to see what the
moves are coming up in a couple of weeks now
with the trade deadline, you know, it's still because of
the job their front office is done. And not to
like completely dodge your home or out, but it's still
one of the top prospects, one of the top farm
(10:30):
systems in all of Major League Baseball? And you know,
do you start risking some of that? Do you really
swing for the fences? Do you call Pittsburgh and say,
all right, what do you want for Paul Skiings?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know actually won today, Chris, I saw that, you know,
that first one since May twenty eighth?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
So hold on, I just want to give you an
idea how behind my feet is for the game right now?
Boom Byron Buxton just hit a home run. It's one Minnesota,
but it's a h It really is kind of a
fascinating time to decide if your buyers are selves and
not just for the Dodgers. Right look at the Red
Sox and are you satisfied with just kind of battling
(11:06):
for that wild card? Is that where you want to be?
Or do you think, hey, I can get a little
bit more and and maybe if we get in the
wild card, great, but then we're set for the future.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I know this, the Dodgers are not a team that's
going to be in any other mode than buying. They're
gonna be out there trying to find the pieces that fit.
If it's if it's getting a third basement, if it's
getting involved in schemes or another starter, if they have
to truly go and find themselves a closer.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I don't know what it.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Is, but Mike, there's there's no if, ans or butts
about it. This is one of those that it's kind
of hard to explain away with just how bad it's
been for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Struggle bus has certainly been there. And what's funny is,
you know you get the shot and freud of it
all where folks are gonna be very excitable because you
got to explain that one to me, The shot and
that is taking joy in the misery of others.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Okay, I don't have to google that.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
There's a whole do it in song form from Avenue
Q I'm a Publisher, which which I have always described
since seeing it off Broadway many years ago as the
Muppets on crack Okay, and they have a whole song
about schadenfreude. So you can go run with that one
a little bit as you will.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Hey, Hey, who said we wouldn't learn something tonight on
the show I'm here for.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh No, We're gonna teach a lot of stuff. We're
speaking wisdom into the microphone here. Thank you wherever you're listening, however,
you're listening on one of our five hundred affiliates nationwide
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(12:41):
get us at Plank Show, at Swollen Dome, at Fox
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how you're listening, and whether you're enjoying some of the
current struggles of the Los Angeles Dodgers. We coined them
the Evil Empire several years ago. As you know, we
are ahead of the curve once the buying spree really
started going. And to your point about the wild card,
(13:02):
that's the beauty and the horror of all of this
stuff when you get to the trade deadline, Because once
upon a time you knew where that dividing line was right.
And now you start looking at well, here's our expected schedule,
here's the guys coming back from injury. Here's all that.
I'm a White Sox fan. I just want them to
play spoiler to somebody. I don't care who pick a
name out of the hat, that one team gets wrecked
(13:23):
because of us.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
That's my goal. I just I was looking. Do you
let's see here, White Sox, We're thirty games under five hundred. Okay, okay,
join it.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They just swept the Pirates. GM was getting fired because
of them. So you got that. They were beating up
on the Rays the last I saw. Now, my screens
are replete with images of sho Heyo Tani wherever I
look right now. So you got that going for you.
So but you know, look, the long road begins with
the first step. I can't be a front runner. I'm
(13:55):
still celebrating two thousand and five. You know that title
that ESPN refuses to ignore college one of the greatest
pitching performances in baseball history. That's starting for hell, they
put a statue up of Burley last week. There's my
celebration moment. That's all I got right there, Chris, that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's it. I'm living twenty years ago. All right, a
strikeout for Otani.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Here, we're keeping an eye on this game as it
rolls forward Minnesota with the one dot delayed here in.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
The top of the first.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
But coming up, we've got our guy, Jason Lock and
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Speaker 2 (14:38):
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Speaker 6 (14:49):
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Well, you know what it's called over promise. You should
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for years.
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Speaker 4 (15:57):
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No Jason Smith. Tonight, it's Chris Plank in his stead
shoe Hao Todi gives up a homer in the first
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(16:41):
on with NFL owners, what's going on with the union
and everything else across our NFL landscape. It's our body
one oh five seven the fan in Baltimore. He's got
his betting podcasts, longtime friend of the show at Jason
Lockin for in the Twitter verse Jason locking Moore, Jay,
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Buddy?
Speaker 7 (17:02):
What's going on? Gentlemen?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Welcome to the party as we get ready for what
we got ten days left till we get our Hall
of Fame game and all of that excitement, which is
at the end of the weekend. There's a nickelback show too.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Who knew? You didn't know and you didn't care?
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Actually I did. I saw it somehow popped up on
my Twitter. But what I didn't know is like that
they're like and special guests like Rudy McNuggets or whatever,
like whoever the special guy. I'm like, I totally don't
know this person. I'm like, I don't know. Did I
know this person? Like? Is this that big in Canada?
I don't know, you know, because they're Canadian. But yeah,
if you seriously though, if you see like the promo stuff,
(17:44):
there's like this other guy who they're with, who's wearing
like an old school Houston Oilers jersey, and I'm like,
don't know that guy. I am unfortunately familiar with Nickelback.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I'm gonna have to go do the deep dive of
what's going on there.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys probably know him, like you guys.
I mean, it's good to be me an old man thing.
But AnyWho, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Right there with you.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Hey, you want to start with some Lloyd Howell fun
Now he's now he's his other job. You go through
the expense reports JC Tretter, He's no longer gonna seek
a job in this process.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Demorris Smith.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
I haven't read the book yet, but does this mean
he was complicit or just dumb.
Speaker 7 (18:22):
No, jeez, you're gonna put You're gonna put Lloyd Howell
on him. I mean, I I don't think Hell, I'll
see how you can do that.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Well, just say it in terms of the overall union
ineptitude and some of those discussions about guarantee that.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Right now, I'm picturing d Smith like that Kermit Defrogg
meme of him sitting back to sipping his teake. I mean,
de Smith, like, look how it looks. I mean, Jesus,
you can say to one about him having a replace
a legend, you know what I mean, Like, hey, you
got a place, and he was never gonna be it
for everybody. And he certainly had his faults, and that
(18:58):
union remains the weakest of the professional sports unions, despite
the sport making more money revenue wise than any other
and frankly more than most of them combined. But I
think history won't be quite as unkind to him as
I mean. He came in and was immediately in a
bit of a labor war, and it was one in
which the owners were willing to lock people out. It
(19:24):
was a really tough circumstance and I feel like, yes,
they could have done a lot of things better. But
the number of people who left when d Smith left,
who said now is the time to take my buyout
because this guy coming in looks like a total clown.
It was a charade. How he was elected, it was
everything was a mystery guys themselves. I think some of
(19:45):
them didn't even really know who else they could have
voted for. The process was a sham, and it has
sham results. And whoever takes over is now going to
be I don't know, at most a couple of years
removed from the league, opting out of these TV deals
and you know, having this global turn it into more
(20:08):
of a global sport, and they're going to cram eighteen
games down. People's thoats and franchise tags aren't going anywhere,
and they're going to continue to play more games abroad
than ever before. And I just think they're going to
get whatever they want. And the Union is in an
incredibly vulnerable place right now, far more so than anytime
(20:28):
during D Smith's the controversial tenure.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I'm not a smart manson, Jason Smith's out on, Chris
Plinkson and Jason Locke for so good to talk to
you man, I'm not a smart dude, so I don't
really know the ins and outs of how this affects
anything now for the Players Association, because it seems as
if what the CBA is in place until at least
twenty thirty, So are we just exhale labor piece.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We don't have to worry about about strikes or anything.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
How does it affect them? I mean, I feel like
if you read the sixty one page document, considering it
was a kangaroo court stacked against them as a special
master who's never going to look the you know, is
never going to throw too many rocks at at the
five million town guerrilla who employs them. But like, I
(21:19):
feel like that collusion case was a win for them.
Then they're so inept and so compromised, and J. C.
Trader acted like such a jackass that they collectively decided
not even to spread the word like that they they
kind of sort of won a collusion case. And then
they're so backwards and and and so myopic that they've
(21:40):
then colluded with the league. They can't mail the fightings.
I mean, you're gonna tell me how it affect the players?
How do you think it affects with Mark Jackson, I'm
more as the fans.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
How it affects us watching a day to day. I mean,
we're not gonna have to worry about a lockout or anything.
I mean obviously no, it.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Effects mean well, I mean I don't know, I mean eventually,
I I don't. I mean I can't answer that question
because I don't. I mean, you're I don't know that
this is rock bottom. I can't remember how many times,
like with Jimmy Has I'm running the Browns, I'm like, well,
this has to be rock bottom. You know, it's never
rock bottom, So I don't, I don't. I mean, are
they going to clean up their process?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like?
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Are they? Is this going to be transparent? It's if
it's not, I mean, how will it affect it if
someone gets in there who doesn't know what they're doing,
Could that, you know, further hasten or prolong a potential
workstopic I don't, I don't know. I mean, is is
the PA going to be ripe with clicks? And is
(22:37):
that going to make it even harder to negotiate? How
empowered will this person be? I mean from a football
day to day watching games, you know, follow the play
all that. No, But in terms of the players, oh,
the players can definitely continue to get hosed, and even
more so than ever by having completely enough leadership at
(22:58):
the helm that doesn't even isn't even smart enough to
know when they've won.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Because that's always been the question in terms of the
rank and file, Jason like, where we've got the different
levels that players are at, salary wise, tenure, and trying
to get everybody on the same path to vote towards
the same things has always been a challenge. But now
how far removed does someone have to be from the
institutions to be trusted at this point?
Speaker 7 (23:28):
I mean, I don't know how to answer that. I mean,
it sounds like the last time around, the reps and
the rank and file weren't even on the same page
as to the process itself. And if we're now led
to believe that the executive Committee didn't even think this
guy was worthy of it in the first place, yet
(23:50):
they passed it along to sort of the popular vote,
I mean, it's hard to speak about because it was
so shrouded in mystery. We didn't even know Moyd how one,
and up until recently most people didn't even know who
the hell he was running again, Like I I don't know.
I mean, he clearly was doing clownish, buffoonish stuff. He
(24:15):
wasn't there that long. This started immediately. How yeah, Like,
how did he ever get that position in the first place?
How much of a leadership vacuum was there? And is there?
You know, do they need to have an independent audit
and some third party come in there and make recommendations?
(24:37):
Like do they need to make it a prerequisite that
whoever they hire next has had significant experience at a
different labor union maybe ideally a sports labor union, and
has been you know, in somewhat of a prominent role,
whether current or past. Like yeah, I mean and certain, Uh,
(25:02):
there's discord. There's a lack of harmony. I think among
the players. We're talking about what is it right now? Right?
You got ninety guys on rosters, You've got thirty teams.
Do the math. It's a lot of people at various
points in their career, with various earning potential and various
earning past and various earning futures. It's it's it's it's
(25:26):
hard to get them on the same page. I mean,
looks how hard it is to get thirty two billionaires
on the same page, and now we're talking about, you know,
twenty seven hundred guys.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
It's gonna be tough. Jason locking for is our guest
all right on the well kind of on the field.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Stop.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
It looks like Michael Parson's gonna be still showing up
at Cowboys camp. But Jerry Jones is doing Jerry Jones things.
The bottom line more than anything else. He usually gets
these deals done. What kind of situation do you feel
like this ends up being for the Cowboys? Do they
get it done? Does it cost him too much? Or
could this one drag.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
On a bit?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
No, they'll get it done. They'll get it done, probably
right before this. These stars, Yeah, it'll cost them too much.
They'll have the egg on their face. I'll probably regret
it within a couple of years. It's just the same
old dog and pony show. I mean, like we were
(26:24):
talking last week, Garry eats this stuff up. I mean
the fact that there's all this discord and disharmony, and
then he eventually gives the guy more than anybody else
would have. And so you know that the guy eventually
gets a smile on his face. But the star culture
continues and certain people are propped up and there's an
underbelly to that roster. There's never really cohesion in that
(26:48):
locker room because certain guys are treated like rock stars
and you know, everybody else just there's sort of everybody else.
And you know, I think Jerry's gotten increasingly callous and
slip it with how he talks about injuries and talks
about players worth. And it really kind of started, you know,
(27:10):
around the Kaepernick stuff, and I feel like it's kind
of escalated since then, and he continues to message to
that locker room in a way that I don't think
resonates with a lot of those guys, especially the ones
who aren't being paid his best to breathe in their positions.
So yeah, I mean he'll get his, like that got his,
(27:31):
but he'll end up hurting the team because of the
contract structure and because of what else they won't be
able to do. And he just he's just so stuck
in his own ways, and the older he gets, the
more stubborn he gets, and it's his way or the highway,
and it's just going to be another I think, pedestrian
(27:56):
season in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Another big effort from US here out on Monday night
from our guy, Jason Lock and for at Jason Lock
ANDFA is where you find him in the Twitter verse,
see what he's got going on the Wanta bet podcast,
and so much else than he does one five to
seven the fan there in Baltimore, Jason, thanks for taking
a few time minutes out with us here on a
Monday night. Next time we'll be talking about more camp
(28:19):
fun and getting ready for that Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah, get on Malmo and get on FC cloth and
from the Czech Republic tomorrow and Champions League qualifying. Think
of that. Take them both on the money line, maybe
Parlam together.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Malmo is a wonderful place to visit, by.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
The way, gorgeously Yeah, it's wonderful, lovely.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, I can't wait to go back. Thanks for hanging
out with us, buddy. We'll talk to you again, guys.
Thank you a little bit of betting advice on the
way out for you there, Plank. Can't beat that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Welcome back in Fired up to be with you here
at Jason Smith show with Me and Mike Carbon there's
no Jason Smith this week on vacation. Yes, the back
end of the week he will be sampling Muskrat dinners
in Detroit. So if you're on the streets of Detroit,
look out for a guy wearing nothing but mets garb
on purpose.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
He's going to Detroit.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, he vacations in Detroit. It's where his wife's family's from.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Oh, very cool. I've never been, so I can't talk
any trash on it. Everything I know about Detroit I
learned from eight Mile.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It really just kind of comes down to this.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
If I'm in the summer months and I live in
southern California, where the hell am I going?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's gonna be better Detroit? Evidently.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Well, I mean, you know, there was a kid rock
line where he's saying, if Heaven ain't a lot like Detroit,
I don't want to go.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
That's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I just I always took Jason to be a beach guy,
like to get away and want to be in like
a scenic area. But as you laid out, you live,
you work every day in Los Angeles, kind of hard
to beat that scenery on a regular basis.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
He's pastier than I am, so I don't think he
sees the sun.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Oh are you guys kind of like powder?
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Remember that movie?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Is that what we are with Jason White? To that level?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But you know, I mean, look enough dog walking and
enough soccer tournaments for me.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I'm some shade of red most of the time.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
At one point, about six weeks ago, they could have
hired me as one of those actors, you know, like
when of the movie's coming out and all of a sudden,
like they're in the third row and they look like
someone from a horror movie or whatever, and they stand there.
I could have been a stand in for the thing.
Like I had such a bad case of sunburn. My
skin was peeling and like got all scaly looking. I
(30:30):
could have passed for this iteration of you know, cousin Richie,
who's gonna play him in the In this current iteration,
he'll get you if you're not cared.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
For the Sun's undefeated. Man, it'll get you if you're
not caring. No, that's it.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And one you're as pasty as I am. You go
from what I am to beat red really past. There
is no tan, There is none of that all right.
So we've got Big Ten media days coming up, and
the billion dollar question, multi billion dollar question when you
talk about the future of college athletics, and we have
many of them that will traverse a little bit over
the course of the night and throughout the week as
(31:02):
we go, is what the playoffs look like after this
coming year, because we'll have a title game on the
nineteenth of January. And then you back that out so
you get those travel plans in place. But if you
want to go looking further of how you have to
budget and how you have to analyze things, well, it
gets a little more chaot r at your mark of
the Big twelve likes his five and eleven kind of situation.
(31:25):
You're five champions and you're eleven at large, but.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
For the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
In an interview with Joel Klatt a few weeks ago, Petiti,
the new Big Ten commissioner, outline the idea of the
four four two two one. Now we'll see what he
does and in terms of verbalizing that this next iteration
in front of all the assembled media masses, but four
for the Big ten, four for the SEC and Greg
(31:50):
Zanche always you know, looking for global expansion. His own self,
and then we start going down, you know, for the
for the Big twelve in ACC and everybody else as
we go through. So you have automatic bids would be
thirteen of the sixteen as laid out in that interview
with Joel Klatt. And now it's the constant fight for
(32:12):
supremacy as we see teams getting gobbled up in conference realignment.
Maybe some buyer's remorse for schools like USC and some
others when they realized what was could have been if
not for some bad media rights deals all the way
back then, Hi, I remember that that was fun. But
(32:33):
for tomorrow, I think that's that's the billion dollar question
in all of it. Chris does he double down on
automatic bids?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
And you know that interview with Joe Clatt or I
don't know, Joe Clatt talking to Tony Pettitia really seemed
like it was more Joe Clatten, Yeah, and yeah, you know,
but they even when it is kind of you know,
convoluted as going for four two and a half two
and a half one, we'll give that third a spot
(33:01):
in the Big twelve or the ACCC or whoever's coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
just it made it made no sense. Listen, it's not
an invitational. It's a tournament, and you don't give automatic
bits outside of a champion unless it's an invitational. I'm
not I was out a fan of this when it
came out. Mike, I don't know where you stand on it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I'm a Big ten apologist, a proud Northwestern alump, so
so good for bids. Well, no, I don't agree with
it in a as a radio host and a larger
thought process. But you know, damn it, my guys, anybody
been Illinois quote representing the Big ten? But TD said,
that's my job.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
But I mean, in most situations, if you're at sixteen,
if you're at sixteen teams, you're probably getting four just
about every single year. If you're the Big ten anyway, right,
you're definitely getting four about every year. If you're the SEC,
you know, the Big twelve and the a SEC can't
support this, they can't come out. And obviously Brett Yormar
(34:02):
a couple weeks ago Big twelve media day down in Frisco, Texas,
he was like, we are five and eleven five automatic bids,
eleven at large qualifiers and they have to be because
they can't take less the first time they take less,
will take more and more from them. Now that's shit, right,
when there's that negotiation, right, they'll take more and more
from them. So you've got to stay strong with five
(34:24):
and eleven if you're the Big twelve in the ACC.
But the Big ten apparently wants to force the SEC
to play nine conference games. But they sure as hell
don't care that the ACC only plays eight conference games too.
You don't hear him grinching about that at all.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Well, and that's where the curiosity of all this happens,
right when we're talking about the size of the conferences
as it. I mean, I remember back in the day
when the Big ten was still legitimately ten before Penn
State came on, and then after that it was a
land grab and bit by bit, like I actually registered
the big twenty dot com domain name good call were
(35:00):
a head and that we might still be. We might
still be aheading there as we go. But it's just
the idea of the absurdity of some of this. But
also we'd been seeing the prediction of the super conferences
so long ago, right where we just have a couple
of sixteen or thirty two team super conferences in the end,
(35:20):
and everybody else is playing off in their own little
sphere and navigating their own globe, which still may end
up becoming the case as more of the rights deals
come to fruition and the curiosity here. But certainly, if
you're not the big ten or SEC, you've got to
do everything you can to talk about the greatness of
at large teams. Otherwise you're just going to be lost
(35:42):
in the shuffle.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, and especially if you're only in these projections getting
two bids, and that's the case, you gotta say no.
So AC Jim Philp's gonna speak this week to ACC
Media Day coming up later in the week.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
We'll learn a lot.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
This would be very interesting week to see if anyone really,
as Brett Yormark put it a couple weeks ago, doubles
down on their beliefs.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Well, and everybody else still has to figure out how
to pay everybody and where the proper dollars and cents are.
And because you are my college football guy at playing show,
find me over at Swollendome. We'll talk about that coming
up next as we continue. Because Sarkesian had some interesting
comments on the future of this college football wave.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
We got that next on Fox sports radio,
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