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September 19, 2024 41 mins

On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike open the show discussing Adrian Wojnowski retiring from ESPN to become GM of the men's basketball program at St. Bonaventure. Next, the hosts discuss the Panthers’ announcement that they won't be trading QB Bryce Young and react to Buccaneers QB Baker Mayfield’s comments on the situation. Finally, they analyze Chiefs TE Travis Kelce’s remarks about his slow start to the season. Tune in for an action-packed hour!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
You know, your mood has really been markedly improved the
last I don't know twenty one twenty two days, and
it has been.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
But but I'm also I'm all so, I'm also very
sad right now. Yes, I'm very sad right now because
I'm very sad. It's very good, Tysher, this is very good.
I'm very sad right now because Francisco Lindora's meant so
much to the Mets, and now.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
He's whoa well, I mean, he's meant so much, right,
he's going to finish second MVP voting and he's got
no position to come back to because Louis Angela Cunya
is so good. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's it. Miss
that great?

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
What have you done for me lately? Janet Jackson, Jody Watley?
What have you done for me lately?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Have you done for me lately? What was Jody Wattley? Wow?
Tycher got that fast? I got on fire hitting the caffeine.
You hit me with Jody Wattley. I'm not a die.
I'll just do it on orders. Was the I'm looking

(01:58):
for a new looking for a new love.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's right, But why do I always confuse it with
what have you done for me lately?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
So tell me how does it feel? But I mean,
I mean, hey, hey, you can't go wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, I'm sorry, you're really sorry. There's no position for you.
I'm sorry, thank you for everything, but there there's no
place for you. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
It's been great.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I know we're paying you a lot of money. Yeah,
a lot of money. Back half of this contract. Wow,
there's no place.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
For you so well, but it makes for some interesting
conversations and roster manipulation for twenty twenty five for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Maybe he'll just retire like agent Wajanowski didn't go be
the GM at a school somewhere. I have a lot
of thoughts on it, didn't you know, Look I didn't
have that on my Bingo card of biggest sports stories
of the day. But clearly this has a huge ramifications.
Yet earlier today ESPN, longtime NBA inside look no better

(02:49):
NBA and true insider, right we have You know that
there's guys that that are insiders, reporters, analysts and content providers.
No better insider that we've seen in the NBA over
the last years. An Agrian Woljenhowski. We were, you know,
ready for his WOJ bombs all the time, and we
got one final WOJ bomb today where he announced he's leaving,

(03:09):
He's no longer going to be in television, not going
to be an NBA insider, leaving to become the general
manager of the Saint Bonaventure Fighting Bonnie's Bonaventure Sat the Bonnie's,
the Saint the Bonnie of this Alma mater Saint Bonaventure
of their basketball program.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
That is a we always just knew him as the
Bonnies Sea Keeps would play them in the beginning of
the year, we'd win by thirty.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm like, okay, you were playing the Bonnies tonight, Okay,
Saint Bonaventure Eagles, Eagles, Eagles, Mets, Jets, the Jets about
that Mets.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, this is one of.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
The Louis Angels, all right.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Now you're trying to make this guy into some superhero.
He's been up for a week and just because the
swing just looks like when his brother is healthy, ohich
is really a kind of fright any thing. But when
this news hit I kind of went, huh, good for him.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Joy, you can just go I'm tapping out. I'm gonna
go do this.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Maybe it's more fun, maybe it's a little less stressed.
And the bottom line is you have no idea what
of the myriad potential causes get him to this point
in his life. Right, we don't know about health. You
don't want to speculate about that, his family life, don't know,
don't know. Having been to some of those crossroads myself,

(04:29):
I chose wrongly. I'd change things up. Yeah, I good,
you would. I can't go back. You want to be
sitting next to me for most of your life, it
would have gone. But here we are. Uh. But you
got that money. He's got a lot of it, I
would assume, because this was just the latest of his contracts.
It's not like they just suddenly started paying him. He
worked pro bono for fifteen years or twenty years.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's not like Otani, where hey, we're giving you two
million a year. But then when you retire, then get.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
So all of those things and maybe, like all the
coaches and everybody else that said, I don't like this
new world. Maybe if the information world is not what
he likes anymore, so you go and you tap out
and do something else.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Look, he's gonna do something. It seems like everything is
okay health wise. This is just a career change. I'm
gonna go be the general manager of the basketball program
at my alma mater.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Right, that's not in the first general manager of a
basketball program in a well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Now they don't have to. They don't have to, you know,
pretend anymore. Hey listen and il people get money. Well,
you're the general manager, Okay, that that's what he's got,
the title, he gets, the print.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Business, he's in a basketball operation, sat fundamenture.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
But look, I understand.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
That when you get to a point in your life,
you get into your fifties, and you think, okay, I've
done this. I really want to do this before I'm
done working, right, because we talked about this a National
Radio Day a couple of weeks ago, Like, I know,
I have less radio in front of me than I
have behind me. And you start thinking, what do you
want to do? Do you want to keep doing this?
Do you want to do something else? Everybody has that
point in their life, like, Okay, I have another few

(05:59):
years to really still with my have my fastball, So
what do I want to do? And for a guy
that's been the best insider, but now obviously it is
a younger person's game, and it's you know, Sham's being
on Twitter and looking for all kinds of breaking news
so he can tweet one second after who's winning an
election or who's I mean, it gets to a point

(06:22):
where you say, you know what, I'm done. I'm done
with the phone ringing all the time. And look, Jay
Glazer's talk to us about that about how his phone
is his life and everything else and he's not away
from his phone. You watch Adam Schefter dou hits on ESPN,
he looks like the rudest guy in the world. I'm
going to answer my phone and text while we're doing
a segment because I have to. No, you could really
wait for four minutes before you text somebody back. But okay,

(06:42):
you want to show that. But that's what inside. That's
a life an insider, and at some point you have
to say, you know what, I'm done. I'm done doing that.
I'm okay sitting behind a desk and cutting ribbons and
showing up at the basketball games and doing interviews and
enjoying what I want to do for a place that
I gave a big part of my life to earlier
on I understand, I understand. I don't think there's anything
outside of this that's overwhelming. ESPN wasn't gonna get rid

(07:05):
of them. They weren't gonna say, Okay, you're out. You're
still the preeminent insider in sports. Okay, I'm turning this
money down. I have it, I have the opportunity to
do this. I'm fifty five. This is what I want
to do for the next few years before.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I hang it up.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, and we're sitting in the chair. So obviously as
things break while we're on air, highly important. Do I
really care who does it? No, because thirty other guys
three hundred thousand other people are gonna retweet that, and
it's probably gonna find my timeline.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
At some point.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
So it's origin source doesn't really matter to me. If
I'm not in the studio, en route to the studio
or talking to you and are producing staff about the show,
it's it's just.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Oh, that's cool. Who broke it? Don't don't really care.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
So the value proposition for me on that really really
doesn't hold me. He's making how much a year?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean that kind of thing, right, So you know
that that's the the part of it.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I look, God bless you get your cash where you can.
In any walk of life, you find the value proposition
and you can you can maximize it, no question about it.
But I'm just saying for me, like I saw the handry,
like the guy didn't die. Yeah, No, Like this was
like there was a number we walked awo, we're not
getting another one.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
We're not getting that was the last wochhbomb. That's it.
That's the last moan. I mean, that's my last I'm
all done. I'm all done whipping these out.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
But I meant I got one last one that I've
really filled up with a lot of information. And it's
like the Seinfeld episode where they fill up the ball
and throw them off with you know, they're gonna solve
the world's oil problems.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
That was the giant woche bombing off the edge of
the roof.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
There I was, I was, I was going rest of
development with Jay Walter Weatherman, the guy that George Senior
wouldring in to teach lessons to the kids all the time.
And he find all the way and by and finally
Jason Bateman says, Dad, you've done enough with this. He goes,
it was my last lesson.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
No more lessons. It was my last lesson. That's my
last lesson.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Like this is it.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
There's no more wojes bumps, no more. Yeah, we're done,
We're not getting anymore. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And here's how good it is for us, okay, and
here's how good it is for you, for me, for you,
it's better for you than for me. And I'm you know,
I'm saying this. Okay, I'm better for you than for me.
You know why why it's good because my teams actually
have bleeping plans now and they're good.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Right Because what if I always said I.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Need Gottlieb beginning in the tournament with Wisconsin Green Bay.
I need Reddick to get the Lakers in the top six,
and then I could manage the Mets. Okay, Now now
I need Woches succeed Wojes. You get Saint Bonaventure in
the NCAA tournament. Now Gottlieb in the tournament, Woes in
the tournament, Reddick in the top six. I could manage
the Mets. But look at the Mets, we're pretty good.

(09:53):
Carlosmando is a pretty good manager. Oh, I could run
the Mets. No, David Stearns the executive of the year. Okay,
I could run the Jets. All the Jets have turned
into pretty good. They got a great team.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Okay, I could run the next The Knicks are going
to win the title this year. How are they gonna say, hey,
we'll take a chance. All it took was the threat
of you taking over for everybody to get the kick
in the air.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Your teams are terrible you could jump in and say, hey,
I can go run the Bears slash White Sox slash
Black Hawks slash Northwestern.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Like all your teams stink so bad that you could
play this now better than me.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
This turns out to me this is like a like
a like I was born too late kind of thing,
like a was born to late. My team's all got good,
but that idea just a little bit too long.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I am uh, I am breaking the glass ceiling for
you to come in to me. Yes, because right Braun
seems to be all right. Still have questions of administration
there Northwestern. No, the White Socks are a mess. The
Bulls are a mess. Yeah, oh you can run them
to Bears. They're already writing big thought pieces of what
if we would have gotten Jim Harbaugh and you know
in the world.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
But we're defter two weeks you go and one and
they're they're already.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Doing he yeah, yeah, we should have fired that guy.
Go trade for Brenda's you're here, We should have gotten
Jim Harbaugh and talking about Moses and stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
You can have you have your pick of where you
could want. This is like this is not like all
one team here, one team like beginning of the year.
I don't know how good Carlos Mendez is good. I
could manage a METS.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Well, I got his guys. That's all my stuff, so
I can do it the proper way. Me my phone
and the hobo stick. The rest of my belongings.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
You might have to drop the whole.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't think that would be a great optic for
a GM to be walking into an introductory press conference
with his belongings in a in a knapsack that's tied
to a stick over his back while you're whistling something
from Disney from the nineteen thirties. I don't think that's gonna.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Be I think, but I think it would work saying
this is all I brought with you, this and my
work ethic. I'm ready to serve you, not a lot
of fancy stuff. You didn't have to spend fifty thousand
dollars to move me here. It's me and my stick.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh that's what they'll say. Hey, you're gonna say fifty
grand with move Oh that's great. Well, it's psychological thing.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, not just a fifty grand, it's just the I'm
not encumbered by a bunch of stuff that I'm clinging
to it's just me.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
My idea is in my hobo stack.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
You're gonna have a bidding war for you, Harmon to
look at all these guys from the media, I really
know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
What do you want? I don't know. There's be a
bidding war.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
The White Sox are gonna have to fight the Blackhawks
tooth and nail for you.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
To run that.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Well, I don't have ties to rhyin Storf, so he's
only going to promote somebody he's already yeah. Yeah, so
unless I go in and maybe I'm the beer vendor
in the three hundreds, but.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's eighty eight. Yeah, it can't be a long play. Yeah,
but if you're gonna manage, I think they would die.
I think they would do that. Yeah, I think you can.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
It's gotta be a it's gotta be a swift ascent
within the organization.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Go right, and what do you mean a cent? You
go right? And you for me?

Speaker 4 (12:46):
But but I don't have history. We do the show
with me one night, and then the next night you're managing.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
The White Cycle looks good in the uniform. That's how
it does.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
You all had They had to take out the bottom
of the all the pants, why his calves were too large?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
You already wear the white Sox hat I got you
every day.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
You're fine, you go right for you know what about
one in every three thousand people I run into actually
recognize it as a white Sox.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Otherwise it's hey, that's a cool hat.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's I mean, this is intense for you, man, This
is like a great time for you. I feel like
I missed my opportunity. All my teams are good, well.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Give it time, give it time. Not an injury. Yeah,
but Robert Sawa was still not a good.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
But well, okay, okay, maybe head coach New York Jets
might be Okay, I think that's why one gets there.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, that might be. Tibodeau may run all these guys
into the ground by next year. Come on, we're winning
the title next year, man.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Will by the end, you know, the twenty five twenty
six season, they might be looking for a power change
in power structure. Nah, we're gonna be winning title after title.
This spiral back too. That's just fine. That's fine.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, really, head coach New York Jet, that should be
what I look for, because yeah, I told you how
bad Sala is they know he's bad. He doesn't even
talk to Aaron Rodgers. So you do you ever send
them your two point conversion?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Uh? No, I have to save that. I have to
save something.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
You had a couple of red zone plays, hail Mary plays.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
I got some plays. I got some plays that'll work.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
The one where the guy rolls around on the ground
pretending he heard his ankle. Re really innovative stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
You see.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
And someone stole my idea years ago of the guy
rowing in the corner and barking like a dog when
someone makes a layup to win a game.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
The finest, finest junior high school cut of play.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
It's all I need.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I need Gottlieb, I need Reddick, and now I guess
I need Woes. What do you think that Gottlieb, Reddick
Woes and I can be the head coach of the Jets.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
What do you think that parlay would pay off?

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Wow, Gottlieb in the tournament, Saint Bonaventure in the tournament,
Lakers top six, because I got to be out of
the playing round, right out of the playing round, And
then would you end the parlay with me? Gead coach
in New York Jets would you end it there?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Well, I think we just get those three and then
it gets together. So yeah, you're right, you're right, Okay, right,
we got to get that to hit first.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
But and then it's a you know, we lay the winnings, true, Hondy,
you get that job. I'm pushing this off. No one's
going to back this bet. It's gonna cost us too
much if we lose. Yeah, no, we cash that bet,
and then you know, hey, look at what we did.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
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Speaker 4 (17:41):
Now a story that I really I didn't expect it
to go this long, kind of like the Venom trilogy,
Like I thought, Okay, we're gonna be done after one
of these, but instead now oh no, no, we got
a third one popcorn bucket.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah like that. Yeah, no, I'll go
see it. Well, I mean it's all so I could
go to the movies, but I really I thought, okay,
you venom, Okay, one movie. Yeah, then we're gonna move on. No, no, no,
we're back for another one. Okay, all right, another one. Okay,
it's still kind of fun and and okay and and
uh uh football is life, isn't it at the end? Okay,

(18:14):
and now okay, now we're done. Oh no, no, no,
we're getting the third one.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah, just remember this, all right, it's not Is this
good for your eyes and make you entertained? Is it
good for the bottom line? I mean really, if it's positive,
then it keeps getting made.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I mean really, I'll get really nervous if Morbius two
we get one of those, I'm gonna get nervous for that.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
But I was a nerd. I kind of enjoyed it. Yeah,
you know what I went in expecting absolutely enough. That's true. Yeah,
expect nothing. You'll ever read discipes. I got something.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
So this is what kind of gets because we're still
this Bryce Young story still has a beating heart. Three
days later, there's a lot of anger, and I thought
it's gonna be like at some point, like in a
movie when someone pulls someone's heart out and you watch
it beat and eventually it stops beating. Like we're gonna
be done with this story. No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now we're getting.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
This subruder film of everything this guy does. Now, like
ever every movement. Hey, he's walking out to practice. He
goes over to sign an autograph for someone and they say,
keep your head up. Well, look at his countenance. He
didn't look really enthused by that, like really, or here
he is on the practice field while he's not taking
the reps.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Let's watch his every movement and what his eyes do.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
But because of this story, we get to a great
bowl prediction for this series.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Right, let's go.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
So today the Panthers said, we're not trading Bryce Young
and Baker Mayfield, who knows a thing or two about
I know what it's like to be the number one
pick and be told they'll watch you anymore, put out
a great message for him, saying, hey, Bryce Young, story
is not done being written yet, it's far from finished,
and he still has weight and right.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I did like that picture of him and Sam Darnold
together in Panthers' uniforms that was going around.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
That was pretty good. Boy.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
We've had guys that just stunk here and then Temper
showed up and he's stuck in the sideline. Now, first
things first, Okay, no, they're not gonna trade him because
A he has no trade value and B he's going
to play again. He's going to need to play again.
So you can see that we're moving on from him, right.
You're sitting him now for a while, but he's got
to get back in. If you're turning the page and
the number one overall pick in a year and a half,

(20:19):
you need to see him after he's had time to
reset himself and figure out the best way to get
him going. And if you still can't get him going, okay,
then you're drafting Shador Sanders or Carson Becker whoever else
you want. So that's something that he's absolutely going to
play again. He's got no of course they're not gonna
trade him. But Mayfield's message is a good one because look,

(20:40):
I completely agree. We are the land of second and
third and fourth chances. If you are a quarterback taken
with any kind of pedigree. Look how many chances you're
gonna get, Sam Darnold, Look at the chances he's getting.
Geno Smith is a furgure. All these guys, but especially
if you get picked high, teams aren't going to cut Bin.
They're gonna continue to give you chances because there was

(21:01):
a reason why you had that high pedigree and why
everybody had you high on their draft board. They're gonna
go back to that and say, why can't this guy
still be good? So, yeah, that's a great message from
Mayfield to Bryce Young because that's exactly what's gonna happen.
Bryce Young is gonna get two or three more chances.
Maybe he has to come in somewhere as a backup,
but eventually he's gonna find his way in playing and
he'll find his way into the right situation. Because that's

(21:23):
what happens for guys taking number one overall, or guys
taking in the top five or top ten of the
NFL draft. You will get that chance because we love
second chance this whole country.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
We love giving second, third, fourth, fifth chances to everybody
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
If you're a quarterback, you're that guy.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, but the bigger thing is that you also have
the other side of it is how many of these
coaches fancy themselves geniuses of I can fix that guy
he didn't get a fair shake with coach XYZ. It
was a defensive head coach, or this guy was only
one foot in because the owner. He wasn't the GMS guy,
all of those kind of none at all. But I

(21:58):
can go fix it. The guy like Shanahan or McVeigh
or Sean Payton or some of these guys that you know,
just get that tag that Oh no, no, they'll be
able to fix them. Canalis in theory was going to
be that guy to get immediate returns from Bryce Young.
Guess what, it's not always built in the day, especially
when your roster construction is still shoddy. Now, is it

(22:20):
improved from last year? Sure, it couldn't be any worse.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I don't know. They're making a run at that.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I'd just say on paper coming into the year with
the moves you may Johnson, Yeah, but no, there certainly
the first two weeks. I mean, what was he one
for twenty one third downs or something like that. It's
it's a miserable experience. There's no question about it, but
on paper at least coming in. While they may not

(22:49):
have had great hope. We both talked about it going.
I don't know. They could be interesting if things break
right and Canalis really can make it work. Otherwise, well,
this is where your headed right down the same path
and you got Andy Dalton to the rescue.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Good luck, good luck, but nobody.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Look, he's going to get another chances for Panthers. If
they say goodbye to him, another team will pay. Look
it took Gino Smith is in the league a decade
before he got his second chance to be still it's
done well.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Another example, right, one of the laughing stocks, because you
know it's always going to be tied to Mahomes and
the Chiefs. But Tramisky bouncing back and forth as he has,
still in a really good spot as a backup to
one of the game's greats. But he bounced from Chicago
to Buffalo to Pittsburgh back to Buffalo. And we'll continue

(23:37):
to get shots. Because as much as folks can be
moan and point and say, well that was that, and
we saw that coming like yeah, yeah, yah, show me
your real draft boards.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah. From twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Oh so we erased some of these names and moved
him down and moved them up just and we would
look good in retress.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
We look we looked better.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had Brady number one overall back
in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Look at the Braik had him here. We moved it
right up here, number one overall. You know what, we
just couldn't read it in the light.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah it did, it was yeah, So we missed it,
so we picked someone else instead.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Now this gets us to you ready for my big
Bowl prediction? You ready for this? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:13):
After two weeks sixteen more weeks here of the National
Football League regular season, and it has to do with
someone I just talked about. But get ready for NFL
MVP Baker Mayfield. Get ready.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
That's that Baker Mayfield fun NFL m v P.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Now follow me that because because this is this is
how it breaks down, how this happens. First of all,
he's playing his best football that he's played in his career. Right,
Tampa Bay is a fit for him, right, we saw
it last year he had a phenomenal year. He started
out having a great year this year. Right, highest rated
passer in the NFL, uh same up, leads a league
in touchdowns over the first couple of weeks, he fits.

(24:57):
I'm not concerned that he's not going to have a
great ear for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Right, his personality,
what he does, he's able to succeed despite the fact
their running game is not great. Right, Rashad White's a
volume runner, and now he's not even to get hurt
ball right now he's injury and it doesn't matter. You know,
suddenly Bucky Irving is you know, they drafted him to
be part of the one two punch dere He's not

(25:18):
suddenly going to carry the ball twenty five times a game.
It's gonna be on Mayfield's arm. And it really was
on Mayfield's arm last year and he came through. So
now you're coming off of that this season in the NFC.
Who looks like the best team through the first couple
of weeks Tampa Bay and New Orleans. Right, New Orleans
blows out the Cowboys. I'm not a big fan of
New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Right, that's a discussion.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, I told you Tampa was going to the NFC
Championship game because they're loaded.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Everybody is sleeping on tamp Godwin's healthy.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Right, last year gave you what he could this year
fully healthy, He's jumped out of the gate and Mike
Evans is as steady as they go.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
He's gonna be Mike Evan's gonna be forty eight years old.
To boy, do I do I draft Mike Evans this year?
He's still starting Tampa Bay. Their defensive line is really good.
They really cause havoc and they're going to continue to
win games because they are loaded. This team is really
really good.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
And I know that the.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Optic was well they need to come back after a
couple of years for No Brady, but remember how good
they were last year. But still all the attentions on
different teams and different players. But the Tampa Bay Bucks
are going to be really, really good, and you need
that narrative that you start out the season with. And
if the Bucks keep starting out and they keep winning games.
They won a big game last week, right, Mayfield a

(26:34):
touchdown passing, he had a touchdown running.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
What do you say, the longest run of my life?
Eleven yard touchdown run.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Mayfield's going to jump out with the narrative because in
the AFC things are kind of a mess. Right, Mahomes
is not really Mahomes anymore. Is Aaron Rodgers gonna get
sympathy vote for coming back if he leads Jets to
the playoffs. But Mayfield's a guy that is coming off
a big year, that is going to lead his team.
Who's going to be at the top of the standings
for the major already the season? And probably if I

(27:01):
say right now, because injuries are just killing the Rams,
I say, who's gonna wind up with home field advantage
for the playoffs, It'll be Tampa Bay. And if that's
the case, who's getting all the credit? Baker Mayfield? Who's
gonna win MVP? Baker Mayfields That you can just see
as the narrative continues this season, stories about how his
swagger it was a little misplaced with the Browns, but

(27:22):
it fits. He learned his lesson what he can say,
what he couldn't say, what he could get away with
in Cleveland, stuff he would do differently, But now with
another chance to lead, he's doing it here. He's a
guy that's bounced around. Then the story around him is
a great one. We thought he was going to be
this guy with Cleveland. He flamed out. He was terrible
in Carolina. He couldn't even seize that job. Now he's
backing up in Tampa. But look at where he is

(27:44):
right now. He's one of the top last year, one
of the top seven eight quarterbacks in the league. And
now he has a chance to really grab that by
the horns and take it and take that narrative and
run Baker Mayfield n FLMVP.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
So I think the beauty of it is the narrative
talking about the redemption stories and reclamation projects in last
year seen as a all right, show me it again
kind of circumstance for him as he puts up big
numbers and loses Canalis. So there was some question from
an offensive standpoint whether they take a step back and

(28:16):
out of the gate. They're back where they started home
date this week. They've got the woeful Broncos in so
even with some of the injury issues they're having you
mentioned Rashad White, They've got a couple of guys defensively
that are having issues, especially on the defensive interier. Guess what,
Denver can't run the football. So even without your biggest

(28:37):
defensive players, or maybe playing at a little less than
full power bar, you still have an opportunity here. Looking
at the current MVP odds. I want to have some
fun with us. Okay, sure, all right, your leader in
the clubhouse still, Patrick Mahomes, okay, sure, okay? Three to one, yeah, okay,
brayl Allen of course, yeah, okay, yeah, sure, no, it's one.

(28:59):
It's all quarterback for our What do we got the
elite nine I think that are on this board. Josh
Allen four four and a half to one, CJ. Stroud
shortly behind him, and then you've got Jalen Hurts standing
by himself. Then it gets cluttered a bit with Joe Burrow,
Lamar Jackson and Brock Purty a little bit further along

(29:20):
twenty five to one, Dak Prescott sitting there at thirty
to one.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
What was it five to one before last week for
Dak Prestott? Oh wait a minute, move him down now.
But you could have really ridden the lightning right there,
no question about it.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
But again, Dak didn't score touchdowns in week one, right,
they dominated, but it was all Aubrey and the super
toe effect of thirty five from thirty seven from fifty
plus all guys not named Justin Tucker the first two
weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
So yeah, for Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
I mean, everything's on the table for him in a
banged up, banged up conference, deeper than it was a
year ago.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
But every team with questions, Yes, and it has to be.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's a weird year because some of the teams we
thought were gonna be good or struggling a little bit,
We've already had.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Injuries, ton of injuries, already taken the field down.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So it's it's that effect. Yeah, it's true, Sirianni could
well Syrian actually the most to make Kirk Cousins MVP
last week. But that's you know, it's not gonna be
say Kwan Barkley too soon or Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, I mean interception Yeah yeah, Like I said, you
needed about twenty yards. Jake Elliott, you know, he's one
of those guys that can hit from fifty plus opportunities.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Maybe just think about that. Baker may crazy with that MVP.
He's got it all. It's all there for him. It
is all there for.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Him, guy that everybody hated, fought with all sorts of
media members, fought with you.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Sure, Hey, look that's why that's why you should trust
me and trust us. We talk on the show.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
We're fair.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
We're fair with people. Now I'm coming. Hey, this guy
could be the MVP. He could be the MVP of
the league. I always defeatd Mayfield, Baker Mayfield, because.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
You got to let it out, you know, if you
don't let it out, I mean, it builds up and
then eventually explode.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
The only one who won't be happy with that toda yet,
Hugh Jackson.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, that's difinitely time now to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports from Brian Finley.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
But yeah, what do you got for us, my friend? Yeah,
Jason and Mike. Good to be back here.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
And we've got a ton of baseball going on, including
one loan game that is still up and running. And
it is your Yankees. Jason leading, non say my Yankees.
They're not my Yankees. Just say's not Yankees. They're your
dad's ye Yankees. Yes, not not your they're my father's
Yankees team. Yes, yes, there you go. So Yankees are
had one and nothing against the Seattle Manters. That's our
only major league baseball game still up and running. Fourth

(31:41):
inning is where they are. The Yankees are first, of
course in the Al East. They have a four and
a half game lead for first over the Ools, who
ended up losing at home today five to three against
the Giants. The Angels winners four to three against Mike
Carmon's White Sox. Mike Carmon's White Sox are thirty six
and one seventeen and on the White Sox social media
page on their Twitter, instead of really giving the actual

(32:04):
score and a graphic, they just said the other team
scored more runs than our team. Essentially to paraphrase.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
That's pretty good. That's all they said. The other team
scored more runs than us. Yeah, they weren't wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
They weren't wrong.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
It was journalistic integrity, for sure, which is what we
do here in them. Well, that's all we do here
in the newsroom, right, Mike wink wink.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Sure not to editorialize today's events.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
No, not at all. We don't do that here. The
Brave seven to one over the Reds the Padres. They
are first in the NL onund card race, two and
a half games in front of the second in the
NL card race Diamondbacks four to nothing Padres of the
Astros and two home runs for Manny Machado and the
Astros were two hit in the game. The Dodgers winning

(32:50):
eight to four against the Marlins, and Shoeyo Tani did
steal his forty ninth base of the year. He is
one stolen base shy at fifty. He still has two
home runs shy at fifty to get to that exclusive
fifty to fifty club that nobody in Major League Baseball
history has been able to reach to this stage. Twins
continue to struggle. They've lost nineteen, have lost twenty nine games.
Guardians over five to four. They get it done in Yeah,

(33:13):
in ten innings. Red Sox finished off two to one
win against the Rays. The Mets ten to nothing. They
take out the Nationals. The Mets are still seven and
a half game, seven and a half games back of
first place Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
It's not nearly the story. That is the story. That's no.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
The story is what's the NL wildcard? Take away the
fact that you want to just go on the Mets
to me and tell everybody what the wildcard races in
the National League. Okay, raise Simonbacks, Mets, and Braves. People
want to know.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
Yeah, both the Padres or the Padres lead, and they
got the Mets and the Diamondbacks both two and a
half games back, So they're right there, Braves are two
games back of the Diamondbacks and the Mets, so it
could be just as easily a situation where the Mets
or Diamondbacks fall out of the final three or the
top three wild card positions. And guys, lastly, how about
these Tigers four to.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Two over the Royals.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
They sweep case.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
And not only that, but the Tigers, a team that
seemingly from reports they gave up at the deadline, they
are now a half game out of that final wildcard
spot in the American League. Jason, mike As, I work
it back to you, and I think that's pretty impressive
considering that you know, the Tiger's payroll, Jason has to
be probably about a tenth of the Mets, and they're
just as good.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Now I know the Tiger's payroll is what the Mets
are paying players this year to not play for them.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Oh okay, I think the Tigers.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Are paying their guys what the Mets are paying Verlander
and Serzer to not play.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Bobby boonea as well, But that's its own thing. Okay,
that's a sunper thing. That's the whole Marlin's payroll right there.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Bobby Woinea I on, you know, but I will know
that everybody in Detroit believes in the Tigers when I
start getting Tigers texts from Pam's family.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Like, hey, do you really think we can do this?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Like because right now, because I'm like, I get Michigan texts,
get Lions at but no tie and tie. The Tigers
are such a huge deal in Detroit. Like it's like
like there's for a long time, Tiger's the number one
team in Detroit. You're talking about football, basket but everything else.
But I still haven't gotten any yet. I'm going, Okay,
they must not believe yet. Maybe they believe now, No,
they don't believe.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
The other thing is like Michigan needs to lose to
USC this week and then they'll be texting, Oh, you
might be right, they need Saturday. Yeah, they get pushed
off of that next season's over.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah. Then it becomes a good point Lions and whatever
the Tigers can.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Do, it's a good point. It's a good What about
the Bears, Bears? You're the Lions and Tigers and Bears?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Oh my coming up next.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
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Speaker 2 (35:46):
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Speaker 1 (35:54):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Live from the Tirerack Dot Studios. And look,
we spent some time last couple of nights talking about
how much trouble the Chiefs offense is in when you
decide we're okay with Harrison, Butker kicking a fifty one
yard field goal, you want to run the ball twice
instead of getting close on the final drive against the Bengals.

(36:17):
You know that Andy Reid feels a certain way about
his offense, certain way about Patrick Mahomes, and most likely
a certain way about Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Today, on his in the Heights podcast that he did
within in the Heights, he talked about how his slow
start Travis Kelsey won catch five yards against the Bengals
on Sunday is all on him.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
There's a lot of things that have to go right
for anybody to get the ball. You know, It's just
for whatever reason, these past two games, it hasn't gone
that way for me, and that's football.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Man.

Speaker 8 (36:47):
I'm not about to sit here and get frustrated about it.
I used to get really, really pissed off, and I
almost lose my cool a lot of the time from
not having that success, knowing I'd demand that out of myself,
and it's tough for me to to deal with being mediocre.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
The Taylor Swift curse is real. Done to Danny Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
She's Yoko the band is.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Breaking up now, Oh my goodness, we won the super
Bowl and we're two and oh it doesn't matter. Look
at what's going on with Travis.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Kelsey and you know he would be so pissed off.
Someone said that, do you think it started your trouble
starting with Danny Taylor Swift? Do you think they're tuble start?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
I think there's plenty of folks that you were great,
and now boy, you're You're on my fantasy team, so
I can tell you I haven't been great. You didn't
even get to a thousand yards. Dude, I was sixteen short.
What do you want from me?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
But I'll tell you this, and I'll tell you exactly
why he's struggling, and it's not a lot of it
is just when you're going to be thirty five years
old on the tight end, you only have so much left,
Like how much did Gronk have left? He was a
great tight end before he wound up having to hang
it up. And they're both very similar. And without looking
at all the the All twenty two film for the Chiefs,

(38:00):
I can tell you a couple of things. Number One,
they're not throwing the ball as much as they used to,
so there's gonna be less out there.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
They're running the ball more for whoever reason, Andy Reid
has decided I want to run the football.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Okay, you know Mahomes is your quarterback, but so there's
whenever you run the ball more, that's less passing plays.
But Kelsey has always been able to create space rights.
That's him and that's Rob Gronkowski. Somehow they're able to
run free across the field over the course of their
career and someone get and the linebacker loses them or
the safety loses them. Now, Kelsey's a little bit more

(38:33):
talented than Gronk in that he can make more of
the big catches in tight coverage, but the fact that
he's not getting targets. Are you talking about one catch
for five yards. His targets are all the way down
for seven targets. I guarantee you this. I guarantee with that.
I look and I can guarantee you this. He doesn't
have the separation that he once did. He doesn't have
set because if he had the separation, Mahomes would throw

(38:55):
to him. I mean, it's that simple.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Again.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I haven't watched you all twenty two film, but I
know how Travis Kelsey gets open. Watching the game on Sunday,
there was no time when I said, boy, Kelsey was
wide open there. Boy, how do you not see kel
Of course he's looking for Kelsey first, there's nobody else
he's throwing to Kelsey if Kelsey's If Kelsey's not getting
the ball, it's because he doesn't have the separation anymore,
which is just what happens when you're going to be
thirty five years old and you're a tight end in

(39:17):
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
You also can scheme it up when you're lou on
Arumo getting after it. And we we extole the virtues
of his game planning and and what he's done for
the Cincinnati defense. So some of that is going to
be take Kelsey away make someone else beat us.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
But they wont him. But they tried. They tried to
take him away for the last six years. Got to
take him away.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Then it slips a bit and your offensive line maybe
not as cohesive the run game while you're trying to
run the football. To your point, my home's only tried
fifty three pass attempts in two weeks, three interceptions. It
used to be one game for him, right, he's already
gotten you know, two touchdown passes of at least twenty

(40:00):
plus yards, which I think matches all of last year
or some ridiculous stat like that. But you're looking at
the like it's feeling out process. In September we talked
about it a little bit, you know, the old Patriots
way of right, first quarter, let's do this. I think
most of the NFL to some degree, that's it. You
want to come in with, you know, full on zero

(40:22):
to sixty in two seconds flat. It's not happening anymore
because you're not playing in the preseason, you're not getting reps.
And for Kelsey, you know, some of it is rounding
back into full on shape.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Right. He took I mean he took a lot of
the summer.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Off right, But you had also thought that last year,
at some point he would have hit at the end
of last year and suddenly become, you know, the beast
that he had been.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
But he wasn't.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
But towards the playoffs you got you got a different
calcl Yeah. But guys that when they get to be
tight ends, they age really man when you're thirty. Fortunately
he doesn't the laundry list of injuries that gront ted.
Remember Gronk wasn't supposed to play at all. When the
Patriots drafted it was like, this guy's already had put
it in you you've seen his back.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
My good, what are you doing? But no, but look
a tight ends. Hey, you go to your thirty thirty
one and when you're this, hey, he's he's already in
bonus time. He's far a one time.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I guarantee you.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
He just hasn't gotten the separation because he would have
gotten the ball ad thing is that simple? Coming up next,
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