November 9, 2023 • 37 mins
Legendary broadcaster Al Michaels says he’s returning for 2024 and won’t retire just yet. NBA Insider Ric Bucher joins the show for all the latest on the Lakers, Knicks, Giannis and Wemby. Plus, Jason explains why time is running out for Geno Smith as a starting QB.
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(00:51):
we got some blowouts to get into with Rick Buker
coming up in a few minutes, whether it was the
Lakers and the Rockets or the Knicks and the Spurs
bringing that weak ass Wenby Crap into Madison Square Garden.
We have a lot to break down, including the Yannis
ejection coming up in about twenty minutes. But make no mistake,
the Knicks beating the Spurs tonight as bad as they did,
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that may be enough to end Victor women Yama's career.
He may go back to Europe. He may never want
to play in the NBA again after tonight. Mike, that
might be a.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Shell of his former self. Remember, well, I mean, you.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Go into the biggest stage, or so they proclaim it.
I mean, not really for basketball most of the time,
but sure, let's go there. Uh, this one all the
eyes of the world, right, I mean we were getting
the images from shoot around. You don't get a lot
of shoot around foot. But here's Victor. He's made it
to New York City.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And then he was he was not good, looked a
little lost defensively.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And then on the on the offensive end, he get
caught and getting caught in no man's land. And as
much as every once in a while you like to
see him hit a three point shot, I think he's
falling in love with that a little too much.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He was no part of Nick Smoke, no part of it,
No part of it smoke. Nope, don't want that.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
If I buy a horse, I'm gonna name it Nick Smoke.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Nick Smoke is Although I always worry about two words
that have the same letter ending the first and starting
the second, because it doesn't you can't enunciate it right, No,
because I would make it all one word. Oh, Nick smoke,
just Nick smoke. Okay, I'm good with it. You know.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Exciting news today, del Mar's getting to double up. They
were already coming back for the Breeders Cup in twenty
four They announced twenty five today too, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But I really, I really, you know, what what for
a guy like Wemby mentally, what it's going to be
to try to come back from this and how long
is it gonna take. Spurs may lose ten in a row.
I mean, this is this is just an absolute whipping,
a butt whipping they got tonight. Man. I'm telling you,
I don't know. He may never be the same He
may he he was on the he was gonna be
the best player in the league sooner rather than later.
And now then who knows? He made he greg O
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may wind up having a better career than Victor Webbinyama.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But you saw the big.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Pregame stuff right, the quotes over the last twenty four
hours kind of talking about Garden when Benyama and they
reference Bull Boull in the comparisons. He's sit well with
a lot of folks and well tonight Nick Show, how
crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But we will have more NBA coming up in about
fifteen minutes again with Rick Bucker. Going to be a
fun vision as it always is with him all the
big news in the NBA. But a Thursday night football
preview unlike any other, because you know tomorrow is Parck's Panthers. Yay.
Al Michaels, in a really big interview today he did
with The New York Post talked about his critics and
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what his future holds calling play by play for the NFL.
Look al Michaels, who has been roundly criticized over the
past year plus for not being very excited at doing
the games on Amazon the matchups aren't great. He says
his plan is to come back. He's seventy eight years
old and vegetables.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
He says his plan is to come back and do
at least one more year. No question in his mind.
He's going to broadcast games for Amazon next year to
complete his three year contract with the team, and he
pushed back on the assertion he's not bringing his a
game now he tells Andrew Marshant of The New York
Post quote, I don't think I'm a lot different than
I have been through the years. And if people, you know,
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want to say that Al doesn't sound as excited, hold
on a second, folks, I'm doing the same game I've
always done. Okay, let's call time out here for a second,
because this is a conversation that all of us have,
either with ourselves or with our families at some point
in our lives. Now, let's deal with Al Michaels first.
I don't want to retire. I want to continue to
do games. And look, he talked in the interview at
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length about how, hey, it's pretty easy got do Thursday
night games. It gets paid what a million dollars a
game to do it. He wants to keep doing it.
Of course I want to give.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Way.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I want of course I want to do that. Of
course I want to. But when he says Al doesn't
sound as excited, and he thinks I'm doing the same
game I've always done. You and I are on the
air Thursday night football. But we've had more than enough
chances to go back and look at Al Michael's calls
and listen to him to break down the games as
all kinds of snippets that are put on the internet,
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and sometimes we get to watch, you know, we have
the sound up during the breaks when we're watching so
we can see what's happening, so we can talk about
it during the game. And I think if you played
a tape of al Michaels of a game he did
maybe ten or twelve years ago versus a game he's
done in the last year, and then he would hear
the difference and go, oh wow, I don't sound as
excited because he doesn't. I mean when everybody says and
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this is when I say everybody, I mean when the
general consensus from from people are al Michael's doing a game. Dude, dude,
you just don't sound as excited. You kind of have
to look into that, and maybe you don't see it
and listen. Many times we are our own worst critics.
We don't think we're moving any slower than we used to.
We don't think we're any less fast than we used
to be. Here we're moving around. But when you can
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step back and take an honest look at it, you
can say, oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, you're not in
the same shape he used to be. You can't do
the things you did when you were thirty five years old.
And I think if you look at al Michaels and
the exciting games that he called, you would hear him
from ten twelve years ago as as sharp as he was.
And now it sounds more like, hey, I'm just working.
I'm just I'm getting paid. So I'm flying in and
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I'm working. And maybe you don't notice it because you're
a little bit more tired, because you know, look you're
seventy eight years old. You're flying around the country every week.
You don't notice. You think you are, You think you're
doing it as great as you are, but really you're not.
But I bet you if you did that with al Michaels,
he would see it and go, oh man, now I
see what you're talking about. Like that happened with Jerry Rice.
Like Jerry Rice at the end of his career, thought,
I'm playing just as well as I was ten years
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I don't see the difference. And I remember him saying
somebody showed him a tape of when he was twenty
eight years old, foras when he was thirty eight years old,
and he said, oh man, yeah, I'm not doing that. Yeah,
oh no, no, I'm done. I'm done. I'm not the
same guy. And Al's got to understand that, even though
he feels like it, you see what the reaction is
and everybody's very familiar without Michael, al Michaels was not
a new dude that has shown up. But it's hey,
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it's a about no. People have been listening to al
Michaels since nineteen eighty. They know when the guy is
on his game and when he's just announcing games because
he's getting paid and he's traveling and that's what al
Michaels is doing.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, I think some of it, And obviously you and
I are on air, so we don't hear it live,
but you get clips and there's obviously a lot of
outtakes via the fun and exciting world of social media.
Sometimes I do go back, you know, on a Friday
and have it play in the background, because you know,
sometimes you really just are a degenerate and want to
go back and watch a couple of sequences again to
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make sure you saw it right as you analyze going forward.
But yeah, for Al, I mean some of the criticism
has been just the relationship or partnership with Herb Street,
who's fantastic in the collegiate world. But maybe for the
NFL side, there's folks that have their arms raised to
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talk about his performance as well. So maybe there's some
of the just partnership there. Maybe it's Thursday night. Let's
face it, there's been a couple of good matchups and
Tomorrow's is not one of them. Yeah, we'll have football
next week, see all later.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Everybody is that it's sometimes a hard sell, right you
and I We come in every night and some days
there's a list stories all over the place. Some days
it's say, all right, how do we make this seedless
story more important or interesting than it is? And you
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do it, and then you make fun of the Mets
Jets and whatever predictions have gone wrong for either of us,
and life goes on. But for al Michaels, yeah, I mean,
you're held to such a high standard. You're the d
you believe in miracles guy, so you're always waiting for
the next big call. It's like if Gus Johnson and
Kevin Harlan are suddenly a little more staid and quiet
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in their broadcasts, people are gonna notice, right when that
happens for either of them, whether it's in the drive
through or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You got to listen to the whole show every night that.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
You know with al Michaels, it has always been the
biggest games, and you're not getting the biggest games now.
But they are still standalone games, right, You're not relegated
to the fifth team for one of the networks trying
to cut your teeth, learn on the job, et cetera.
It's still a standalone game with the lights shining bright
and a huge audience. But sometimes in the clips that
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I've heard, and certainly the reviews we've read, doesn't feel
like the Selle is there.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Is he always be closing.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
He's even said, and this is this what gets you
to the point. This is where you have to have
a converence when you get to the conversation of is
it time for me to retire, whether you're sixty two,
sixty five, whether you still think you're the same guy,
whether you want to walk away from what you're doing
because you've lost the passion for whatever you do for
a living. This is all of us are going to
be in the same boat. Is he says he has
a tough time. He can't sell a bad game. And
(09:58):
I get that. I get that he is used to
doing Super Bowls and all the big games on Sunday
Night and everything. I understand that, Hey, I'm used to
all of this and getting to do big games. You
are big games Al Michael's. Well, you know what, you
had your chance. You did it for a long time.
You wanted to continue on Sunday Night football. They wanted
to go with Mike Tarico, right, you wanted Monday Night.
They wanted to go with a different group. Now, okay,
you took a lot of money to go to Amazon
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on Thursday. This kind of tells you how your career
is going. You're not the number one choice anymore. You're
not the number one choice for for Sunday nights, not
number twy. You you get in on Amazon because hey,
they're new. They want you to sell their product. This
is kind of where you are, right, He's not that,
He's not that guy. He's gonna keep doing Super Bowls
and all of this stuff. This is where you are.
And quite honestly, if you can't sell a bad game,
(10:44):
I'm sorry about that because it's still a property that
Amazon paid a lot of money for it and understand and
as you said, people are watching it. They're watching Thursday
night football, whether it's Steelers, Cowboys or Panthers and the Bears. Right,
people are watching this. So yeah, you should still go
and do the same show, the same game you've always done.
(11:05):
Just think about it like this for a second. When
we come on the show every night, right, Obviously, there
are days where it's wow, man, look at some of
these topics we're gonna get to talk about today, And
there's a coach getting fired, and there's there's a year
tie winning MVP. There's all these big things where where
you can sink your teeth into all this is a
great thing. And then there's other nights where we say, hey,
you know what, maybe those big shocking stories aren't there,
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but this is nights so we can go out. We
can have some fun and stretch our legs and talk
about stuff like the Blues on it. There's a lot
of fun to do, and there's fun I'm doing. That's
why we do it every night we do. We bring
the same kind of energy to the same kind of
show because there's always fun things for us to do,
whether it is reacting to a big story or finding
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a story that's incredibly good in making it great, that's
kind of how we do it well.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Then, like Kobe Bryant used to say, man, there might
be a kid hearing me talk for the first time,
and so I gotta bring my a game. And that's
what we need to do here each and every night
here on Fox Sports Radio as we try to get
the gremlins out of the system. With our guy Jason Smith,
You're good, I am fantastic.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay, the chases we were getting glitchy with you.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We we were getting glitchy. I was getting glitchy.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
We were getting glitch was getting glitchy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We're glitching. We were glitching. Uh so look that But
that's the whole thing is is that when when you
get to that point where you can't do the same
kind of show, and then then you have to sit
back and go, Okay, do I really am I really
the best choice to do this anymore? Because if if
we came in on a night where it wasn't a
guy getting fired and a cooks t he winning a championship,
we were like, hey, yeah, look at this story tonight. Yeah, hey,
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uh what do you think boy? Troy Aikman criticized Zach Wilson.
He's read I mean, but who's gonna listen to that?
Who's gonna listen to say? I want to listen to
something else. Al Michaels is lucky that nobody can go
and say, well, if I want to watch a football game,
you don't like how you're broadcasting it, I go watch
another game. No, they got it. They're stuck with you
doing that game. That's how it looking, and that's all.
Be consistent, have respect for the product, have respect for
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what you do. I'm sorry you're not doing the best
games anymore, but this is what you're getting paid to do,
and you gotta be doing it the best you can.
And if you can't, then then you're doing yourself in
the game of the service. And then we're going on
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ejection that is still as stunning as it was when
it happened a couple hours ago. That's coming up next.
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Right now, I don't know if Dylan Brooks and Lebron
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Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well if they stared down, do they get technical falls
called on them?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Eh? Wenby brought that weak ass crap into Madison Square
Garden that got shown the door.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
He's a fraud.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Jannis getting tossed that was crazy. Nobody better to break
it all down with us Fox Sports one NBA insider
you're gonna follow on Twitter at Rick Buker That is
Rick Buker. Rick. After watching tonight's action, I think maybe
Wenby might want to go back to Europe. He doesn't
want any part of that Nick smoke. They may have
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ended his career tonight.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Is that the song you're singing tonight?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Of course it is. Come on, man, we crushed them tonight.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, that is correct, you did. You did. Although I've
been trying to warn San Antonio fans and anybody else
would listen that this is not a very good san
Antonio team, and I dare say that the Spurs I mean,
and I'm going based on what people around the league
have been saying even before the season started, that San
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Antonio is perfectly fine taking another trip into the into
the lottery and picking up one more quality player, allowing
Wemby to get his feet wet, allow him to kind
of get to know the league a little bit this year.
But it's not like, come come out blazing and try
to win as many games and make the playoffs this year.
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That's not that is not that is not the goal here.
And I say none of that to take away from
the Knicks performance tonight. They did what they were supposed
to do against against a team like this. So still
haven't quite figured out where exactly to put this team.
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I mean, honestly, then this is kind of what happens
in New York. And correct me if I'm wrong, But like,
expectations just seem to grow exponentially regardless of whether there's
any justification for them. It's like a mushroom in the dark.
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You know, you just look and then it's one size,
and then you go away and you come back and
it's like it's way bigger and you're like, wait a minute,
what what that when inspired this?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I mean, I just I still think that they're Jalen
Brunson and a bunch of pretty good players. But the
idea that they're going to be anything more than they've
been like the last two years is really hard for
me to imagine. And so are they a playoff team? Yeah,
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they should be a playoff team. Are they anything more
than you know, maybe getting to the second round? Uh
not until they add at least one more significant piece.
I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Joel embiid it's gonna happen. Everybody's it's gonna happen at
some point. And then I don't go to the finals.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I don't know, you know. I mean the way the
Sixers are going right now, they seem to be a
pretty happy unch. So they put one on the Celtics tonight,
and I think that that that game is a reflection,
this is this is the old song. But I already
pissed O let me see it. I already I already
upset the San Antonio fans. You kind of took a
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shot at the Knicks fans, And now I'm going to
downgrade the Sixers victory tonight over the Celtics. There hack, yeah, yeah,
why not? Why not? And and and three of the
most three of the fan bases that that love to
hate on me anyway. But Philly, like I, from the beginning,
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it looked one I will say this, it looked like
the game meant way more to Philly than it did
to Boston. Now, the Celtics are going.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
To have issue.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
The issue that they have is when they play teams
with size. That's that's going to be an issue. And
it bothers me. This is what bothers me about the Celtics.
So let me go for uh the force theme I can.
I can go for the quartet now and piss off
Celtics fans. This is what concerns me about Celtics is
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is that there are that they do look like, yeah,
this this game really is not important. We don't we
don't need to make a statement against Hilly. We know
we're better and we'll show it at some point. It's
like you haven't earned that. The Denver Nuggets want to
play that way. They can play that way pretty much
anybody else. Uh, maybe even Milwaukee because they've been there. Boston,
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you haven't gotten the job done. So you need to
every game, every opportunity to demonstrate and maybe learn how
to impose your will when you're supposed to. You need
to take advantage of that. You need to do that.
There aren't There shouldn't be nights where you go, you know.
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I mean, people know we're better and we can beat
them when they want to, so you know, maybe we'll
equ one out. But if we don't, it's no big
d to me.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
It is.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
One of the flaws with this Celtics team is that
they're a little too full of just how talented they
are and how good everybody thinks they should be, and
sometimes it cuts into their desire or seeming need to
prove it.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Okay, Rick, since you dialed up the four horsemen of hate,
is there any team you'll like what they've done through
the first couple of weeks or do we just want
to keep piling on?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Well one, I love, love, love what we're seeing from
the Nuggets, obviously not satisfied with just one. Have realized
how good they can be, and they're imposing their will
on everybody. They're beaten the Warriors by ten right now,
and actually the Warriors, I've been pleasantly surprised at how
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the magic of you get to play with Steph Curry
and guys come on board and they're like, cool, what
do I need to do, Let's try to go win something.
It's just I just love the chemistry. I love the
instant chemistry. I love the way guys come in and
they try. There's no question of even with Chris Paul,
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like Okay, how is it that you need me to
play the way you guys play? Because I know it's
successful and it's a it's a beautiful brand of basketball.
Let me see how I can sit in. Yeah, you
see it with Darya Sharot, you see it with Chris Paul.
It's just it's really fun to watch. And I and
I think that for the Western Conference. You know, I
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don't put it past Golden State. I don't know if
they're talented enough, but with that chemistry, they might be
able to overachieve. And I would not be surprised if
they got to the conference finals. I don't think anybody
getting past Denver, but I could see them getting there
ahead of Phoenix. Phoenix is way more talented, they don't
have nearly the same kind of chemistry or or leadership.
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And then one of the teams, one of the teams
that I'm gonna I'm gonna give kudos to are the
Dallas Mavericks, and I not think I would be doing that,
But Luca Dottis has come back, looks to be in
better shape. Kyrie Irving is playing some of the best basketball,
most efficient basketball I've ever seen him play. They have
what I didn't think was going to be a one
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to two punch, the one two punches that Luca likes
to play slow and Kyrie is playing fast, and so
it gives them kind of this one two punch offensively.
And then Derek Lively, the center that they acquired from
Oklahoma City, the rookie center. He's giving them rim protection.
Derrick Jones was a nice pick up. He's coming in
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playing with the desperation of somebody who knows that if
he doesn't perform now, he might be out of the league.
So they've they've again I kind of put him. They're
they're like the Nix of the West and that, you know,
make the playoff maybe second round. I'm not I'm not,
you know, I'm not. I'm not looking at them as
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being contenders or elite, but they're the demonstrated that they're
far better than I expected them to be. And with
the talent that Luca and Kyrie have, Like if you,
if you, if you do away with the distractions and
it's just about basketball, those are pretty those are two
pretty fun players to watch work their craft.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Well, let's be honest, if Giannis keeps getting tossed like
he did tonight, it's gonna be here for a lot
of teams Rick watching this ejection. And there's nothing he did.
There's not only nothing he did to warrant that technical.
When he tried to talk to the officials, none of
them wanted to talk to him. I look at it
and I go, are these just officials that come in
and they have one a certain way of thinking for
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this game? Or because I look at it as do
they really think people come to the games to watch
them officiate, like like the short temper they have and
throwing them out? I mean, that was absolutely ridiculous. What
happened tonight? You know what?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I really really bothered me. And I don't I can't
recall the specific referee that he up to to ask,
but that referee was so he was dismissive, like you
know what you did get out of here? Like okay,
is it that clear? You need to explain it to
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the rest of us, because we're all looking at it like, yeah,
did he kind of mean mug? Whoever he dunked on?
Guy was right there and it was a split second,
and you're going to inject someone for that kind of
reaction is just it was a mistake, and then to
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pretend like it was obvious only compounded what I didn't
like about it. But I would say this, and look,
I'm usually I am usually defensive when it comes to
the referees. I know how hard the job is. I
think they get way too much criticism. I hate the
conspiracy theories like they have uh you know, uh, preconceived
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notions in terms of who they want to win or
any of that stuff. But I will say this, the
league told us coming into the season after we got
beaten up in World Cup competition. The indications that I
was getting were that the competition committee had decided, you
know what we need, we need to allow a little
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more physicality back into our game. And I thought I
saw it, like through the first I don't know, three four,
let's say, the first week of the season. I saw
that I saw that we weren't blowing the whistle every
time there was contact. But for the last week, I've
seen nothing. But I saw it tonight multiple times in
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multiple games where I'm like, why are well, why are
we calling that? It's it is, It's just it's not
attractive basketball. It's why I believe that our play on
the international stage has deteriorated, and and and we were
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promised something else, and I don't know why they've reverted now.
Sometimes it's really difficult, you know, it's you do your
job and and suddenly the bosses say we want you
to do your job a significantly different way, and you've
been doing it a certain way for over a year.
It takes you a little bit of time to fully
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make that adjustment. And I'm going to say, I hope
that that's what the case. That's the case here, but
I was I was so looking forward to it being
more like real basketball than you know what, if you
drive to the basket and you uh and you and
you initiate contact and throw your arms or you do
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something you react that you're going to get a whistle.
I'd hope we've done away with that, because to me,
it's just it's not it's not attractive or conducive basketball
for the NBA overall.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Speaking of real basketball, I thought we were going to
get some from the Lakers on the road, Anthony Davis
injured and unevailable. But they go out and get absolutely
drummed by the Rockets. Now zero to five on the
road this season. Rick, I just told they were back.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, I think this is another one. This is
another one where I warned everybody, like everyone was so
excited about Rob Pullink it kept the band together and
look you at it, Christian Wood, oh my god, and
U and Cam Rettish and oh my god, I mean
the Lakers. The Lakers are going to be so good.
And I'm like, you do Lebron James just got a
(27:42):
year older, right, and you do know that? Anthony Davis,
like you know it's It's so I'm not I'm not
at all surprised at where they are. I hope this
slows down what they looked like without Anthony Davis and
the young guns who just I think maybe this is
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the most surprising thing for me when it comes to
the Lakers is there is absolutely zero intimidation factor when
it comes to Lebron or a d And I'm talking
about like the young guys in the league, who really
haven't done anything yet, who just are like, oh, I'm
(28:23):
gonna cook that old guy. I mean, that is literally,
that is literally the way they approached it now. And
I'm like, wow, it's I mean, and I can't I
can't fault them, because you know, we we have we
have a few people who are pro Lebron, who are
unfailingly pro Lebron, who have been talking up what he's doing,
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how he's playing, and he's still playing like one of
the best in the league. And I'm like, are we
just looking at the box score or are we is
anybody looking at what's happened at the defensive end of
the floor, because he ain't garden Anybody like, whatever he's scoring,
it ain't enough for how whether it's off the ball
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or on the ball, that he's being he's being exploited.
And and again I don't even say this like it
sounds like I'm ripping on on on Lebron.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'm not, because everybody rick.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Everybody, you know what, I am going to rip him.
But he's gonna like he's fifth or sixth on the list.
I've already got, like I got a top five, so
he got you know, I want the listeners out there
to know, Hey, Lebron on my on my uh my
hatred list is uh, he's not even top five anymore, Like.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Lebron doesn't matter. According to Rick Buker, that's what he
called Smith.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's a new feature, Rick the top five most Hated
Things by Rick Buger, and then he off that list
every week.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
That would be like therapy from me.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, we could do that podcast, The five Things I
Hate the Most podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I think it's Zach. Is that Zach Low who does
like the ten Things I Like the most, you know whatever,
something like that. Yeah, the five Things I Hate the Most.
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
We're still gonna billion for the full hour, Rick, Yeah,
it didn't know. It's only a twelve minute therapy session.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And it's kind of like when a team falls out
of the top twenty five for the first time in
like ten years. It's Lebron falls out of the top
five for the first time in ten years for Ber.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on Twitter at Rick Buker.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That is at Rick Buker. Check out the album Ball
podcast as well. Rick is always buddy, great times man,
We'll talk to you soon. And hey, if wenby retires
after tonight, we'll call you back and come on and
react to it.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Uh you you got it. You got.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
See you bunny pushing Weby out of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You're just kicking him out. Now, that's like hate number seven.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh man, I'll tell you that was so. It's always
a fun visit. That was extra special Spice or Rick Buker, But.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
There would have never been any cause for anybody to
measure his vertical.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
How's your giggles?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
What do you think I had to do to get
job we've got to get in the industry twenty years ago?
When at first I don't want to know of stuff
I had.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
That's a question that needs to be remain remain unanswered.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I had to go to my own radio combine. You
can they tell me my forty yard dash all kinds
of crazy ass stuff.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
You give them a hot seahawks?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Take how many words?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I know?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Frostburg, Why are you so harping on the fact I
picked the I picked.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
The seahawk, you picked them in a beat down on
the ram.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I picked I picked a gate.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Did you just pick it though?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Did you seem like you're really harping on this? Like
I said it and and you bet it and you
lost one bos my fault, yes, but I picked other
teams to win blow out the road. I've picked other
blogs before that haven't happened. You're harping on.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
This, but this one is really stuck in his craws
on for this.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I really thought if you're harping on the Chargers beating
the Jets, I get it. But man, I picked a game.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Wrong last week.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
You didn't just pick it wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen dome whatever, Bookie
Frostburg bet with If you're listening, I'm sorry, it's that's
my fault. He listened to me. Uh but coming up next,
it's not all about Zach Wilson. You want to know
another quarterback that could be losing his job really soon.
Answer might surprise you. Keep it right here, Jason and
Mike Fox.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
It's definitely Zack Wilson.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
Jason, I know that's what in Baltimore, right, Yeah, gimme
that dude. This one game, Frostburg is all you know.
You picked the Seahawks to wait. Okay, uh boy, if
if the Seahawks didn't like that, they're not sirtly Hell's
not gonna like this.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know our team Number eight on Rick Buker's list.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
The Jason Smiths, you know with the Mike Carbon Live
the Tiraq dot com studios. Look, it's not just Zach Wilson,
who is legitimately getting a lot of playing for it
just not being good. But you want to know another
quarterback that quite honestly could be losing his job soon.
Look at Geno Smith. He has just not been good.
(33:23):
It's been a month of horrible play for him. He's
thrown four touchdowns and six interceptions. That's what he's done
in the last month. He's not dynamic, He's not thrown
for three hundred yards in a month. They're not moving
the ball down the field, they're not scoring, they were
not competitive last week. He's just not the same quarterback
(33:44):
that he was a year ago. And looking this happens
because you know, you don't have a you just don't
get late career great and sustain it. You can have
that time where hey, I'm late career great and I'm
great for Rob but then eventually you go back to
the quarterback you were, And that's kind of what's going
on right now. Gino Smith was a great story last
year and he got paid, but wow, with even extra
(34:06):
weapons at wide receiver and Jackson Smith, Nijigba and Zach Sharbonney,
you got you got some talent. You got five talented dudes,
man that you can get the football too. Gino Smith
is still struggling. There's too many turnovers and they're not scoring.
The defense is being asked to do way too much,
and at some point it's too good a season. Your
(34:27):
team is too talented to sit here and go down
the same road where maybe it's Drew Locke at some point,
and you give him a chance to get in there,
because I know you gave Geno Smith a lot of money,
but he has not played well and you need him
to be a good tick better than what he's doing
right now because he has cost a new games. He's
cost new games. He's not playing well, and I don't
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see there a way where if this doesn't, if this
continues for another couple of weeks, that you don't see
a change coming up at some point and Drew lockets
a chance to go in and play well.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
The other thing they need to figure out is what
the hell happened DK metcalf Right. We had a lot
of talk of, you know, attitude, and he's had some
issues right, some dumb penalties on the field, et cetera.
But he's a non factor. And now Smith and Jigbas
starting to pick up his game a bit. He's become
more involved. Charbonnet is healthy, and now you have he
(35:17):
and Kenneth Walker, because that's really what you're expecting Gino
Smith to be at this point. Defense is gonna hold
their own and then run the football, and Gino's got
to make his spots, completing about two thirds of his
past attempts. Obviously, this game against Baltimore, it's one of
those that you flush, right. It's a game against a
team from the other conference, obviously a super Bowl powerhouse.
(35:40):
And Lamar Jackson, like we talked about a few weeks ago,
folks finally backing his MVP candidacy, and he's smiling because
everything's starting to coalesce there. But when we look at Seattle,
they're still tied for first place right there. Five and three,
and you've had a couple of games where it's eyebrow
raising and yeah, turnovers are concerning. I don't know how
(36:03):
quickly you're going to Drew Locke though.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I don't know. I don't think it's a it's a
it's a killer. It's not like, Hey, if you go
to Drew Lock, you've ruined this guy. Like this has happened.
You can sit Geno Smith down and say, dude, you're
not the same guy, and we're gonna give Drew Lock
a chance. And if Drew Lock is great, you run
with it. If not, you can go back to him.
It's it's I don't think you have to worry about
the the mental asshole.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Oh, I don't worry about that anyway, because if if
you're worried about that, then.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Some quarterbacks you do.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Look, man, if if that's the state of I'm worried
about this guy's fragility there, then he ain't your guy.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But some guy. Look, if you did that to Dak Prescott,
what would happen? Right? But that's the guy, right, I
mean did.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Well, that would be Mike McCarthy knew what the hell
was going on?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Guy. You just can't do that. Certain guys you can
do it too, and certain guys you can't for whatever reason.
But Gino's a guy you wouldn't have to worry. I'm
not saying he's gonna he would lose it forever, but
he would be sad down. Hey, Drew Locke is gonna
get this game because he's just not played when he's
fumbling as well. You know he's getting sacked. He's got
two four sack games in the last month. I mean,
how long can you go with this? I don't know.
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I don't know another couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Dude. You had him blowing out the Ravens. Now you
want his job taken away.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That's why he want this job taken away.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Things happen, Things happen.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
That's why, exactly why it comes at your exactly you
cost me my prediction.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I want your ass on the bench.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I didn't even want the six and a half points,
but I said I didn't need him because I believed
in you. Gino Smith. Now I want your job.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm not even mad's broken, I'm just disappointed.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
How much longer for Geno Smith? Like Gene Oh, Gene Oh,
Gene exit out a bout of Fresca exits Swollendome Coming
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we got some blowouts to get into with Rick Buker
coming up in a few minutes, whether it was the
Lakers and the Rockets or the Knicks and the Spurs
bringing that weak ass Wenby Crap into Madison Square Garden.
We have a lot to break down, including the Yannis
ejection coming up in about twenty minutes. But make no mistake,
the Knicks beating the Spurs tonight as bad as they did,
(01:13):
that may be enough to end Victor women Yama's career.
He may go back to Europe. He may never want
to play in the NBA again after tonight. Mike, that
might be a.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Shell of his former self. Remember, well, I mean, you.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Go into the biggest stage, or so they proclaim it.
I mean, not really for basketball most of the time,
but sure, let's go there. Uh, this one all the
eyes of the world, right, I mean we were getting
the images from shoot around. You don't get a lot
of shoot around foot. But here's Victor. He's made it
to New York City.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And then he was he was not good, looked a
little lost defensively.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And then on the on the offensive end, he get
caught and getting caught in no man's land. And as
much as every once in a while you like to
see him hit a three point shot, I think he's
falling in love with that a little too much.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
He was no part of Nick Smoke, no part of it,
No part of it smoke. Nope, don't want that.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
If I buy a horse, I'm gonna name it Nick Smoke.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Nick Smoke is Although I always worry about two words
that have the same letter ending the first and starting
the second, because it doesn't you can't enunciate it right, No,
because I would make it all one word. Oh, Nick smoke,
just Nick smoke. Okay, I'm good with it. You know.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Exciting news today, del Mar's getting to double up. They
were already coming back for the Breeders Cup in twenty
four They announced twenty five today too, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But I really, I really, you know, what what for
a guy like Wemby mentally, what it's going to be
to try to come back from this and how long
is it gonna take. Spurs may lose ten in a row.
I mean, this is this is just an absolute whipping,
a butt whipping they got tonight. Man. I'm telling you,
I don't know. He may never be the same He
may he he was on the he was gonna be
the best player in the league sooner rather than later.
And now then who knows? He made he greg O
(02:59):
may wind up having a better career than Victor Webbinyama.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
But you saw the big.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Pregame stuff right, the quotes over the last twenty four
hours kind of talking about Garden when Benyama and they
reference Bull Boull in the comparisons. He's sit well with
a lot of folks and well tonight Nick Show, how
crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But we will have more NBA coming up in about
fifteen minutes again with Rick Bucker. Going to be a
fun vision as it always is with him all the
big news in the NBA. But a Thursday night football
preview unlike any other, because you know tomorrow is Parck's Panthers. Yay.
Al Michaels, in a really big interview today he did
with The New York Post talked about his critics and
(03:44):
what his future holds calling play by play for the NFL.
Look al Michaels, who has been roundly criticized over the
past year plus for not being very excited at doing
the games on Amazon the matchups aren't great. He says
his plan is to come back. He's seventy eight years
old and vegetables.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
He says his plan is to come back and do
at least one more year. No question in his mind.
He's going to broadcast games for Amazon next year to
complete his three year contract with the team, and he
pushed back on the assertion he's not bringing his a
game now he tells Andrew Marshant of The New York
Post quote, I don't think I'm a lot different than
I have been through the years. And if people, you know,
(04:21):
want to say that Al doesn't sound as excited, hold
on a second, folks, I'm doing the same game I've
always done. Okay, let's call time out here for a second,
because this is a conversation that all of us have,
either with ourselves or with our families at some point
in our lives. Now, let's deal with Al Michaels first.
I don't want to retire. I want to continue to
do games. And look, he talked in the interview at
(04:43):
length about how, hey, it's pretty easy got do Thursday
night games. It gets paid what a million dollars a
game to do it. He wants to keep doing it.
Of course I want to give.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
Way.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I want of course I want to do that. Of
course I want to. But when he says Al doesn't
sound as excited, and he thinks I'm doing the same
game I've always done. You and I are on the
air Thursday night football. But we've had more than enough
chances to go back and look at Al Michael's calls
and listen to him to break down the games as
all kinds of snippets that are put on the internet,
(05:14):
and sometimes we get to watch, you know, we have
the sound up during the breaks when we're watching so
we can see what's happening, so we can talk about
it during the game. And I think if you played
a tape of al Michaels of a game he did
maybe ten or twelve years ago versus a game he's
done in the last year, and then he would hear
the difference and go, oh wow, I don't sound as
excited because he doesn't. I mean when everybody says and
(05:34):
this is when I say everybody, I mean when the
general consensus from from people are al Michael's doing a game. Dude, dude,
you just don't sound as excited. You kind of have
to look into that, and maybe you don't see it
and listen. Many times we are our own worst critics.
We don't think we're moving any slower than we used to.
We don't think we're any less fast than we used
to be. Here we're moving around. But when you can
(05:56):
step back and take an honest look at it, you
can say, oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, you're not in
the same shape he used to be. You can't do
the things you did when you were thirty five years old.
And I think if you look at al Michaels and
the exciting games that he called, you would hear him
from ten twelve years ago as as sharp as he was.
And now it sounds more like, hey, I'm just working.
I'm just I'm getting paid. So I'm flying in and
(06:17):
I'm working. And maybe you don't notice it because you're
a little bit more tired, because you know, look you're
seventy eight years old. You're flying around the country every week.
You don't notice. You think you are, You think you're
doing it as great as you are, but really you're not.
But I bet you if you did that with al Michaels,
he would see it and go, oh man, now I
see what you're talking about. Like that happened with Jerry Rice.
Like Jerry Rice at the end of his career, thought,
I'm playing just as well as I was ten years
(06:39):
I don't see the difference. And I remember him saying
somebody showed him a tape of when he was twenty
eight years old, foras when he was thirty eight years old,
and he said, oh man, yeah, I'm not doing that. Yeah,
oh no, no, I'm done. I'm done. I'm not the
same guy. And Al's got to understand that, even though
he feels like it, you see what the reaction is
and everybody's very familiar without Michael, al Michaels was not
a new dude that has shown up. But it's hey,
(07:01):
it's a about no. People have been listening to al
Michaels since nineteen eighty. They know when the guy is
on his game and when he's just announcing games because
he's getting paid and he's traveling and that's what al
Michaels is doing.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, I think some of it, And obviously you and
I are on air, so we don't hear it live,
but you get clips and there's obviously a lot of
outtakes via the fun and exciting world of social media.
Sometimes I do go back, you know, on a Friday
and have it play in the background, because you know,
sometimes you really just are a degenerate and want to
go back and watch a couple of sequences again to
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make sure you saw it right as you analyze going forward.
But yeah, for Al, I mean some of the criticism
has been just the relationship or partnership with Herb Street,
who's fantastic in the collegiate world. But maybe for the
NFL side, there's folks that have their arms raised to
(07:55):
talk about his performance as well. So maybe there's some
of the just partnership there. Maybe it's Thursday night. Let's
face it, there's been a couple of good matchups and
Tomorrow's is not one of them. Yeah, we'll have football
next week, see all later.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Everybody is that it's sometimes a hard sell, right you
and I We come in every night and some days
there's a list stories all over the place. Some days
it's say, all right, how do we make this seedless
story more important or interesting than it is? And you
(08:30):
do it, and then you make fun of the Mets
Jets and whatever predictions have gone wrong for either of us,
and life goes on. But for al Michaels, yeah, I mean,
you're held to such a high standard. You're the d
you believe in miracles guy, so you're always waiting for
the next big call. It's like if Gus Johnson and
Kevin Harlan are suddenly a little more staid and quiet
(08:52):
in their broadcasts, people are gonna notice, right when that
happens for either of them, whether it's in the drive
through or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You got to listen to the whole show every night that.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
You know with al Michaels, it has always been the
biggest games, and you're not getting the biggest games now.
But they are still standalone games, right, You're not relegated
to the fifth team for one of the networks trying
to cut your teeth, learn on the job, et cetera.
It's still a standalone game with the lights shining bright
and a huge audience. But sometimes in the clips that
(09:28):
I've heard, and certainly the reviews we've read, doesn't feel
like the Selle is there.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Is he always be closing.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
He's even said, and this is this what gets you
to the point. This is where you have to have
a converence when you get to the conversation of is
it time for me to retire, whether you're sixty two,
sixty five, whether you still think you're the same guy,
whether you want to walk away from what you're doing
because you've lost the passion for whatever you do for
a living. This is all of us are going to
be in the same boat. Is he says he has
a tough time. He can't sell a bad game. And
(09:58):
I get that. I get that he is used to
doing Super Bowls and all the big games on Sunday
Night and everything. I understand that, Hey, I'm used to
all of this and getting to do big games. You
are big games Al Michael's. Well, you know what, you
had your chance. You did it for a long time.
You wanted to continue on Sunday Night football. They wanted
to go with Mike Tarico, right, you wanted Monday Night.
They wanted to go with a different group. Now, okay,
you took a lot of money to go to Amazon
(10:20):
on Thursday. This kind of tells you how your career
is going. You're not the number one choice anymore. You're
not the number one choice for for Sunday nights, not
number twy. You you get in on Amazon because hey,
they're new. They want you to sell their product. This
is kind of where you are, right, He's not that,
He's not that guy. He's gonna keep doing Super Bowls
and all of this stuff. This is where you are.
And quite honestly, if you can't sell a bad game,
(10:44):
I'm sorry about that because it's still a property that
Amazon paid a lot of money for it and understand and
as you said, people are watching it. They're watching Thursday
night football, whether it's Steelers, Cowboys or Panthers and the Bears. Right,
people are watching this. So yeah, you should still go
and do the same show, the same game you've always done.
(11:05):
Just think about it like this for a second. When
we come on the show every night, right, Obviously, there
are days where it's wow, man, look at some of
these topics we're gonna get to talk about today, And
there's a coach getting fired, and there's there's a year
tie winning MVP. There's all these big things where where
you can sink your teeth into all this is a
great thing. And then there's other nights where we say, hey,
you know what, maybe those big shocking stories aren't there,
(11:28):
but this is nights so we can go out. We
can have some fun and stretch our legs and talk
about stuff like the Blues on it. There's a lot
of fun to do, and there's fun I'm doing. That's
why we do it every night we do. We bring
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show because there's always fun things for us to do,
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kind of how we do it well.
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Then, like Kobe Bryant used to say, man, there might
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Speaker 3 (12:15):
Okay, the chases we were getting glitchy with you.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
We we were getting glitchy. I was getting glitchy.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
We were getting glitch was getting glitchy.
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We're glitching. We were glitching. Uh so look that But
that's the whole thing is is that when when you
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kind of show, and then then you have to sit
back and go, Okay, do I really am I really
the best choice to do this anymore? Because if if
we came in on a night where it wasn't a
guy getting fired and a cooks t he winning a championship,
we were like, hey, yeah, look at this story tonight. Yeah, hey,
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uh what do you think boy? Troy Aikman criticized Zach Wilson.
He's read I mean, but who's gonna listen to that?
Who's gonna listen to say? I want to listen to
something else. Al Michaels is lucky that nobody can go
and say, well, if I want to watch a football game,
you don't like how you're broadcasting it, I go watch
another game. No, they got it. They're stuck with you
doing that game. That's how it looking, and that's all.
Be consistent, have respect for the product, have respect for
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what you do. I'm sorry you're not doing the best
games anymore, but this is what you're getting paid to do,
and you gotta be doing it the best you can.
And if you can't, then then you're doing yourself in
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big stuff to break down with Rick Buker, including Jannis's
ejection that is still as stunning as it was when
it happened a couple hours ago. That's coming up next.
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Speaker 1 (14:47):
Right now, I don't know if Dylan Brooks and Lebron
James are best buddies, especially not after tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well if they stared down, do they get technical falls
called on them?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Eh? Wenby brought that weak ass crap into Madison Square
Garden that got shown the door.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
He's a fraud.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Jannis getting tossed that was crazy. Nobody better to break
it all down with us Fox Sports one NBA insider
you're gonna follow on Twitter at Rick Buker That is
Rick Buker. Rick. After watching tonight's action, I think maybe
Wenby might want to go back to Europe. He doesn't
want any part of that Nick smoke. They may have
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ended his career tonight.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Is that the song you're singing tonight?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Of course it is. Come on, man, we crushed them tonight.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Yeah, that is correct, you did. You did. Although I've
been trying to warn San Antonio fans and anybody else
would listen that this is not a very good san
Antonio team, and I dare say that the Spurs I mean,
and I'm going based on what people around the league
have been saying even before the season started, that San
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Antonio is perfectly fine taking another trip into the into
the lottery and picking up one more quality player, allowing
Wemby to get his feet wet, allow him to kind
of get to know the league a little bit this year.
But it's not like, come come out blazing and try
to win as many games and make the playoffs this year.
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That's not that is not that is not the goal here.
And I say none of that to take away from
the Knicks performance tonight. They did what they were supposed
to do against against a team like this. So still
haven't quite figured out where exactly to put this team.
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I mean, honestly, then this is kind of what happens
in New York. And correct me if I'm wrong, But like,
expectations just seem to grow exponentially regardless of whether there's
any justification for them. It's like a mushroom in the dark.
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You know, you just look and then it's one size,
and then you go away and you come back and
it's like it's way bigger and you're like, wait a minute,
what what that when inspired this?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
So?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I mean, I just I still think that they're Jalen
Brunson and a bunch of pretty good players. But the
idea that they're going to be anything more than they've
been like the last two years is really hard for
me to imagine. And so are they a playoff team? Yeah,
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they should be a playoff team. Are they anything more
than you know, maybe getting to the second round? Uh
not until they add at least one more significant piece.
I just don't see it happening.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Joel embiid it's gonna happen. Everybody's it's gonna happen at
some point. And then I don't go to the finals.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I don't know, you know. I mean the way the
Sixers are going right now, they seem to be a
pretty happy unch. So they put one on the Celtics tonight,
and I think that that that game is a reflection,
this is this is the old song. But I already
pissed O let me see it. I already I already
upset the San Antonio fans. You kind of took a
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shot at the Knicks fans, And now I'm going to
downgrade the Sixers victory tonight over the Celtics. There hack, yeah, yeah,
why not? Why not? And and and three of the
most three of the fan bases that that love to
hate on me anyway. But Philly, like I, from the beginning,
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it looked one I will say this, it looked like
the game meant way more to Philly than it did
to Boston. Now, the Celtics are going.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
To have issue.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
The issue that they have is when they play teams
with size. That's that's going to be an issue. And
it bothers me. This is what bothers me about the Celtics.
So let me go for uh the force theme I can.
I can go for the quartet now and piss off
Celtics fans. This is what concerns me about Celtics is
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is that there are that they do look like, yeah,
this this game really is not important. We don't we
don't need to make a statement against Hilly. We know
we're better and we'll show it at some point. It's
like you haven't earned that. The Denver Nuggets want to
play that way. They can play that way pretty much
anybody else. Uh, maybe even Milwaukee because they've been there. Boston,
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you haven't gotten the job done. So you need to
every game, every opportunity to demonstrate and maybe learn how
to impose your will when you're supposed to. You need
to take advantage of that. You need to do that.
There aren't There shouldn't be nights where you go, you know.
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I mean, people know we're better and we can beat
them when they want to, so you know, maybe we'll
equ one out. But if we don't, it's no big
d to me.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
It is.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
One of the flaws with this Celtics team is that
they're a little too full of just how talented they
are and how good everybody thinks they should be, and
sometimes it cuts into their desire or seeming need to
prove it.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Okay, Rick, since you dialed up the four horsemen of hate,
is there any team you'll like what they've done through
the first couple of weeks or do we just want
to keep piling on?
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Well one, I love, love, love what we're seeing from
the Nuggets, obviously not satisfied with just one. Have realized
how good they can be, and they're imposing their will
on everybody. They're beaten the Warriors by ten right now,
and actually the Warriors, I've been pleasantly surprised at how
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the magic of you get to play with Steph Curry
and guys come on board and they're like, cool, what
do I need to do, Let's try to go win something.
It's just I just love the chemistry. I love the
instant chemistry. I love the way guys come in and
they try. There's no question of even with Chris Paul,
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like Okay, how is it that you need me to
play the way you guys play? Because I know it's
successful and it's a it's a beautiful brand of basketball.
Let me see how I can sit in. Yeah, you
see it with Darya Sharot, you see it with Chris Paul.
It's just it's really fun to watch. And I and
I think that for the Western Conference. You know, I
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don't put it past Golden State. I don't know if
they're talented enough, but with that chemistry, they might be
able to overachieve. And I would not be surprised if
they got to the conference finals. I don't think anybody
getting past Denver, but I could see them getting there
ahead of Phoenix. Phoenix is way more talented, they don't
have nearly the same kind of chemistry or or leadership.
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And then one of the teams, one of the teams
that I'm gonna I'm gonna give kudos to are the
Dallas Mavericks, and I not think I would be doing that,
But Luca Dottis has come back, looks to be in
better shape. Kyrie Irving is playing some of the best basketball,
most efficient basketball I've ever seen him play. They have
what I didn't think was going to be a one
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to two punch, the one two punches that Luca likes
to play slow and Kyrie is playing fast, and so
it gives them kind of this one two punch offensively.
And then Derek Lively, the center that they acquired from
Oklahoma City, the rookie center. He's giving them rim protection.
Derrick Jones was a nice pick up. He's coming in
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playing with the desperation of somebody who knows that if
he doesn't perform now, he might be out of the league.
So they've they've again I kind of put him. They're
they're like the Nix of the West and that, you know,
make the playoff maybe second round. I'm not I'm not,
you know, I'm not. I'm not looking at them as
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being contenders or elite, but they're the demonstrated that they're
far better than I expected them to be. And with
the talent that Luca and Kyrie have, Like if you,
if you, if you do away with the distractions and
it's just about basketball, those are pretty those are two
pretty fun players to watch work their craft.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Well, let's be honest, if Giannis keeps getting tossed like
he did tonight, it's gonna be here for a lot
of teams Rick watching this ejection. And there's nothing he did.
There's not only nothing he did to warrant that technical.
When he tried to talk to the officials, none of
them wanted to talk to him. I look at it
and I go, are these just officials that come in
and they have one a certain way of thinking for
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this game? Or because I look at it as do
they really think people come to the games to watch
them officiate, like like the short temper they have and
throwing them out? I mean, that was absolutely ridiculous. What
happened tonight? You know what?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I really really bothered me. And I don't I can't
recall the specific referee that he up to to ask,
but that referee was so he was dismissive, like you
know what you did get out of here? Like okay,
is it that clear? You need to explain it to
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the rest of us, because we're all looking at it like, yeah,
did he kind of mean mug? Whoever he dunked on?
Guy was right there and it was a split second,
and you're going to inject someone for that kind of
reaction is just it was a mistake, and then to
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pretend like it was obvious only compounded what I didn't
like about it. But I would say this, and look,
I'm usually I am usually defensive when it comes to
the referees. I know how hard the job is. I
think they get way too much criticism. I hate the
conspiracy theories like they have uh you know, uh, preconceived
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notions in terms of who they want to win or
any of that stuff. But I will say this, the
league told us coming into the season after we got
beaten up in World Cup competition. The indications that I
was getting were that the competition committee had decided, you
know what we need, we need to allow a little
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more physicality back into our game. And I thought I
saw it, like through the first I don't know, three four,
let's say, the first week of the season. I saw
that I saw that we weren't blowing the whistle every
time there was contact. But for the last week, I've
seen nothing. But I saw it tonight multiple times in
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multiple games where I'm like, why are well, why are
we calling that? It's it is, It's just it's not
attractive basketball. It's why I believe that our play on
the international stage has deteriorated, and and and we were
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promised something else, and I don't know why they've reverted now.
Sometimes it's really difficult, you know, it's you do your
job and and suddenly the bosses say we want you
to do your job a significantly different way, and you've
been doing it a certain way for over a year.
It takes you a little bit of time to fully
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make that adjustment. And I'm going to say, I hope
that that's what the case. That's the case here, but
I was I was so looking forward to it being
more like real basketball than you know what, if you
drive to the basket and you uh and you and
you initiate contact and throw your arms or you do
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something you react that you're going to get a whistle.
I'd hope we've done away with that, because to me,
it's just it's not it's not attractive or conducive basketball
for the NBA overall.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Speaking of real basketball, I thought we were going to
get some from the Lakers on the road, Anthony Davis
injured and unevailable. But they go out and get absolutely
drummed by the Rockets. Now zero to five on the
road this season. Rick, I just told they were back.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, I think this is another one. This is
another one where I warned everybody, like everyone was so
excited about Rob Pullink it kept the band together and
look you at it, Christian Wood, oh my god, and
U and Cam Rettish and oh my god, I mean
the Lakers. The Lakers are going to be so good.
And I'm like, you do Lebron James just got a
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year older, right, and you do know that? Anthony Davis,
like you know it's It's so I'm not I'm not
at all surprised at where they are. I hope this
slows down what they looked like without Anthony Davis and
the young guns who just I think maybe this is
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the most surprising thing for me when it comes to
the Lakers is there is absolutely zero intimidation factor when
it comes to Lebron or a d And I'm talking
about like the young guys in the league, who really
haven't done anything yet, who just are like, oh, I'm
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gonna cook that old guy. I mean, that is literally,
that is literally the way they approached it now. And
I'm like, wow, it's I mean, and I can't I
can't fault them, because you know, we we have we
have a few people who are pro Lebron, who are
unfailingly pro Lebron, who have been talking up what he's doing,
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how he's playing, and he's still playing like one of
the best in the league. And I'm like, are we
just looking at the box score or are we is
anybody looking at what's happened at the defensive end of
the floor, because he ain't garden Anybody like, whatever he's scoring,
it ain't enough for how whether it's off the ball
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or on the ball, that he's being he's being exploited.
And and again I don't even say this like it
sounds like I'm ripping on on on Lebron.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I'm not, because everybody rick.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Everybody, you know what, I am going to rip him.
But he's gonna like he's fifth or sixth on the list.
I've already got, like I got a top five, so
he got you know, I want the listeners out there
to know, Hey, Lebron on my on my uh my
hatred list is uh, he's not even top five anymore, Like.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Lebron doesn't matter. According to Rick Buker, that's what he
called Smith.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's a new feature, Rick the top five most Hated
Things by Rick Buger, and then he off that list
every week.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
That would be like therapy from me.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, we could do that podcast, The five Things I
Hate the Most podcast.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
I think it's Zach. Is that Zach Low who does
like the ten Things I Like the most, you know whatever,
something like that. Yeah, the five Things I Hate the Most.
I like it. I like it.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
We're still gonna billion for the full hour, Rick, Yeah,
it didn't know. It's only a twelve minute therapy session.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And it's kind of like when a team falls out
of the top twenty five for the first time in
like ten years. It's Lebron falls out of the top
five for the first time in ten years for Ber.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's on Twitter at Rick Buker.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That is at Rick Buker. Check out the album Ball
podcast as well. Rick is always buddy, great times man,
We'll talk to you soon. And hey, if wenby retires
after tonight, we'll call you back and come on and
react to it.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Uh you you got it. You got.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
See you bunny pushing Weby out of the NBA.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
You're just kicking him out. Now, that's like hate number seven.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Oh man, I'll tell you that was so. It's always
a fun visit. That was extra special Spice or Rick Buker, But.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
There would have never been any cause for anybody to
measure his vertical.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
How's your giggles?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
What do you think I had to do to get
job we've got to get in the industry twenty years ago?
When at first I don't want to know of stuff
I had.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
That's a question that needs to be remain remain unanswered.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I had to go to my own radio combine. You
can they tell me my forty yard dash all kinds
of crazy ass stuff.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
You give them a hot seahawks?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Take how many words?
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I know?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Frostburg, Why are you so harping on the fact I
picked the I picked.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
The seahawk, you picked them in a beat down on
the ram.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I picked I picked a gate.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Did you just pick it though?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Did you seem like you're really harping on this? Like
I said it and and you bet it and you
lost one bos my fault, yes, but I picked other
teams to win blow out the road. I've picked other
blogs before that haven't happened. You're harping on.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
This, but this one is really stuck in his craws
on for this.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I really thought if you're harping on the Chargers beating
the Jets, I get it. But man, I picked a game.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Wrong last week.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
You didn't just pick it wrong.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen dome whatever, Bookie
Frostburg bet with If you're listening, I'm sorry, it's that's
my fault. He listened to me. Uh but coming up next,
it's not all about Zach Wilson. You want to know
another quarterback that could be losing his job really soon.
Answer might surprise you. Keep it right here, Jason and
Mike Fox.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
It's definitely Zack Wilson.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Jason, I know that's what in Baltimore, right, Yeah, gimme
that dude. This one game, Frostburg is all you know.
You picked the Seahawks to wait. Okay, uh boy, if
if the Seahawks didn't like that, they're not sirtly Hell's
not gonna like this.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I don't know our team Number eight on Rick Buker's list.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
The Jason Smiths, you know with the Mike Carbon Live
the Tiraq dot com studios. Look, it's not just Zach Wilson,
who is legitimately getting a lot of playing for it
just not being good. But you want to know another
quarterback that quite honestly could be losing his job soon.
Look at Geno Smith. He has just not been good.
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It's been a month of horrible play for him. He's
thrown four touchdowns and six interceptions. That's what he's done
in the last month. He's not dynamic, He's not thrown
for three hundred yards in a month. They're not moving
the ball down the field, they're not scoring, they were
not competitive last week. He's just not the same quarterback
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that he was a year ago. And looking this happens
because you know, you don't have a you just don't
get late career great and sustain it. You can have
that time where hey, I'm late career great and I'm
great for Rob but then eventually you go back to
the quarterback you were, And that's kind of what's going
on right now. Gino Smith was a great story last
year and he got paid, but wow, with even extra
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weapons at wide receiver and Jackson Smith, Nijigba and Zach Sharbonney,
you got you got some talent. You got five talented dudes,
man that you can get the football too. Gino Smith
is still struggling. There's too many turnovers and they're not scoring.
The defense is being asked to do way too much,
and at some point it's too good a season. Your
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team is too talented to sit here and go down
the same road where maybe it's Drew Locke at some point,
and you give him a chance to get in there,
because I know you gave Geno Smith a lot of money,
but he has not played well and you need him
to be a good tick better than what he's doing
right now because he has cost a new games. He's
cost new games. He's not playing well, and I don't
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see there a way where if this doesn't, if this
continues for another couple of weeks, that you don't see
a change coming up at some point and Drew lockets
a chance to go in and play well.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
The other thing they need to figure out is what
the hell happened DK metcalf Right. We had a lot
of talk of, you know, attitude, and he's had some
issues right, some dumb penalties on the field, et cetera.
But he's a non factor. And now Smith and Jigbas
starting to pick up his game a bit. He's become
more involved. Charbonnet is healthy, and now you have he
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and Kenneth Walker, because that's really what you're expecting Gino
Smith to be at this point. Defense is gonna hold
their own and then run the football, and Gino's got
to make his spots, completing about two thirds of his
past attempts. Obviously, this game against Baltimore, it's one of
those that you flush, right. It's a game against a
team from the other conference, obviously a super Bowl powerhouse.
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And Lamar Jackson, like we talked about a few weeks ago,
folks finally backing his MVP candidacy, and he's smiling because
everything's starting to coalesce there. But when we look at Seattle,
they're still tied for first place right there. Five and three,
and you've had a couple of games where it's eyebrow
raising and yeah, turnovers are concerning. I don't know how
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quickly you're going to Drew Locke though.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I don't know. I don't think it's a it's a
it's a killer. It's not like, Hey, if you go
to Drew Lock, you've ruined this guy. Like this has happened.
You can sit Geno Smith down and say, dude, you're
not the same guy, and we're gonna give Drew Lock
a chance. And if Drew Lock is great, you run
with it. If not, you can go back to him.
It's it's I don't think you have to worry about
the the mental asshole.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Oh, I don't worry about that anyway, because if if
you're worried about that, then.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Some quarterbacks you do.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Look, man, if if that's the state of I'm worried
about this guy's fragility there, then he ain't your guy.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
But some guy. Look, if you did that to Dak Prescott,
what would happen? Right? But that's the guy, right, I
mean did.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Well, that would be Mike McCarthy knew what the hell
was going on?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Guy. You just can't do that. Certain guys you can
do it too, and certain guys you can't for whatever reason.
But Gino's a guy you wouldn't have to worry. I'm
not saying he's gonna he would lose it forever, but
he would be sad down. Hey, Drew Locke is gonna
get this game because he's just not played when he's
fumbling as well. You know he's getting sacked. He's got
two four sack games in the last month. I mean,
how long can you go with this? I don't know.
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I don't know another couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Dude. You had him blowing out the Ravens. Now you
want his job taken away.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That's why he want this job taken away.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Things happen, Things happen.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
That's why, exactly why it comes at your exactly you
cost me my prediction.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I want your ass on the bench.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I didn't even want the six and a half points,
but I said I didn't need him because I believed
in you. Gino Smith. Now I want your job.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm not even mad's broken, I'm just disappointed.
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How much longer for Geno Smith? Like Gene Oh, Gene Oh,
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