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Did Jason Smith issue Philip Rivers an apology for being wrong about how he’d perform on Sunday? Will Tua be the Dolphins starting QB next season? Plus, the Washington Commanders are shutting down QB Jayden Daniels for final three games of season!

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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:51):
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are Monday night football. This dealers with the football and
uh just about two twenty left to go. It's a
twenty eight fifteen lead for Pittsburgh. The onside kick nearly

(01:12):
worked out for the Dolphins. Adam Thielen just bounced off him. However,
Heyward able to fall on top of it. So the
Steelers have the football. One first down is going to
end this, but we are gonna have the two minute
warning and the Dolphins still have a couple of timeouts left,
so still a little bit more execution for the Steelers
to win this game.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
That was one of my favorite on side kicks I've seen.
It's a good kick, all right, God spinning, whirling dervish,
Tasmanian devil like a fool the hell out of theeling
when you come in bad right underneath him, and he
had no idea how to judge it.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, the thing is is, there's the way you
see so many players with on sidekicks. Now, you see
the old way always would been, I'm gonna come down
kick the top of the ball, and you hope to
get a big bounce. Yeah right, you hope to get
a big bounce. That's kind of out because you know
players feeling that ball. It's a little bit easier. You
also have the forward momentum where even if the guy
doesn't catch it, it's gonna go out of bounds, So

(02:08):
it's a really difficult thing to try to just hey,
we're gonna get the hop or.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
By time the hop comes down, it's gonna get blown up. Yeah,
it could be like on both sides. It's it's a problem.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah. So the thing is to see on this is
that watching the kick when you can kick the kick
the ball and it's it's bouncing around on the side
and it's a bigger target. Like that was the whole thing.
This is a ball that that's that's side spinning. That
feeling doesn't get and so it just bounces away from
him like and it stays on the field because you're

(02:37):
kicking it that kind of way. Like I think that's
that's what you gotta see. That's like the way of oh, okay,
you can kick it like that, you can you get
much more fourth downs. But again I wonder what sometimes
when some kickers work on because not everybody can kick
it like that, and every single field goal kicker, every
single kicker, should be able to have an on side
kick down. Pat at this point, find some way this

(02:57):
is gonna give us the best chance recovering an on
side I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, I've always wondered because going to traveling training camps
like I used to do, guys are just kind of
sitting around most of the time. I remember Robbie Gold
used to just drive around the cart to deliver water, Like,
could you be working a little harder?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah on something, Thanks for the water, but like, how
about you work on y Like you're there for a
couple hours.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I know you can't keep driving fifty yard field goals
for two hours. I get that, but now you're just
driving a cart around. And he was great, one of
my favorites. And you know, I lamented his departure for
many years when he was kicking for the forty nine ers,
but it was just to kind of thing. If he
was emblematic of what kickers across the league were doing.
That's a lot of wasted time you get back to,

(03:40):
you know, operational efficiency as everybody starts thinking about their
own workplace practices.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
On side kick, as we said, doesn't work out, but
it also doesn't work out for the Steelers. Aaron Rodgers
slides down rather than try to throw the football into
traffic and risk an incomplete pass, makes it fourth and thirteen.
Dolphins use their final time out, so they have no
timeouts left, but Brandon Eckles is able to down the

(04:07):
subsequent punt at the three yard line of the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
So To and.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Company have two to four to get the length of
the field touchdown on sidekick length of the field touchdown,
and then hey, we got a game.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
He's got a big arm. I mean it's.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
So we'll keep you outdated here. Yeah, what you got,
frost ptop delaying your apology? Just get to it. I
got what you say to it. This is what's happening now.
Justin go back and watch video the Chargers beating the Chiefs.
Go ahead and do that, just really quick though.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
The guy that like flipped the ball back former Northwestern
Wildcat bench Coronic.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Hey, he's had a nice long career in the NFL.
So again, two minute warning. Now that the Dolphins have
a rushing play for their first play, Okay, all right,
old strategy. Why not, Mike McDaniel, Now you're thinking, maybe, hey,
maybe this is the one. Yeah, this one will get
him ninety seven yards and won't be expecting it. Oh no, no,

(05:05):
well they'll take us out of the two minute warning.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So Philip Rivers returned to the NFL a day ago. Now,
I want to be accurate. I want to be accurate
and I want to be correct, So just say so
as I said, stop I said last week, I said,
no one wants to be more wrong about Rivers coming
back than me. This this comeback against the against the Seahawks,
not the week two. It's going to be awful. He's

(05:30):
forty four, he hasn't played. What are we really going
to get now? He finished the game, stayed up right,
He put him in the chance to win the game. Right,
You need a sixty fifty six yard field goal from
Jason Myers. Your defense played out of their shoes offensively,
You got what you You got enough from the game,
but six field goals fifty six yard er a little

(05:52):
bit too much. Rivers, of course, had to juice the
ball down the field. The last pick I'm not going
to put on him. You got it. You only have
thirty seconds or twenty seconds to get down the field.
He needs something to get into field goal range, so
you have to kind of take a chance on that throw.
It was an overthrow. Okay, So I want to be
accurate about this. I was very happy to be sort

(06:13):
of wrong on Philip Rivers because how he looked. To
be honest about how Philip Rivers looked. He looked like
a quarterback that most teams have where the backup gets
no reps because the starter gets all of them, and
he is thrust into play at a moment's notice, and

(06:34):
you get as good a game as you could expect
from him in that situation. Meaning I don't expect him
to come in and throw four touchdowns, but hey, can
we get down the field enough. Can we be in
a position and maybe steal a game where offensive we
just don't look like we're absolutely bereft of everything. And
that's kind of how Philip Rivers played yesterday. He played

(06:54):
like a like when Lamar Jackson gets hurt and Snoopuntley
or someone else has to come in right when when
Torod Taylor gets hurting, Brady Cook has to play. Whatever
it is when a backup quarterback with no reps comes
in and is thrust in right away in a short
week preparing for a game, you would expect, Hey, what's
your realistic best case scenario? It was how Philip Rivers

(07:16):
looked on Sunday. We moved the ball, didn't look great,
not like Rivers went for three twenty and three touchdowns,
like move the ball a little bit. Still was a
little slow in the pocket. You know, you could tell
his accuracy wasn't there the reason why he was retired.
But he looked better than expected, better than I thought
he was gonna be. But that's exactly what it was.
He looked like that kind of quarterback that well, if

(07:36):
you told the Colts you're gonna get this kind of
week where you're gonna score fifteen sixteen points and you're
gonna have a chance to win the game because your
defense is gonna play well, your office is gonna light
the world on fire. You know, he's not gonna be great,
but he's gonna be serviceable enough where you don't just
tank it and say, well good luck. Mil will try
to figure it out for next week. Maybe Riley Leonard
is back, maybe Anthony Richardson comes back, whatever it is.

(07:58):
But that's what you saw from Rivers was the best
case scenario you could see, like a backup that was
thrust in. Hey, that's as good as we can expect
a guy to play.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean Richardson now cleared to get back to work,
So that came out today. Leonard was off the injury report,
so in theory he should be good. But you look
at Rivers on the balance, was it overwhelming. No, you
didn't expect it to be. He finishes eighteen to twenty seven,
just one hundred and twenty yards, but made the plays

(08:27):
they needed and put him in position to win the game.
You get a big kickoff return, and nowadays, you know,
we extole the virtues of and lament the accuracy and
the aptitude of these kickers to be able to bomb
through stuff. In the mid fifties, once upon a time
you had like three guys in the game that could
do that right, You had Janakowski, Prader, and then you'd

(08:47):
have a random guy that would come in right. And
over time, now it's become the norm that you could
at least tap into that with virtually every kicker. So
unfortunately you end up on the downside of it. But
when it's all said and done, I indict the effort
of the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'm embarrassed for them because that's all that's all the
excuse making. You know, started to drugs like, well, they're
looking ahead the Thursday. It's like you still have to
win this damn game. So to suddenly say, well, we
didn't take it seriously.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
This isn't the.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
NBA with eighty two games where guys don't play, guys
don't show up. No, everybody played, and you all.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Should run a bunch of extra laps or do something
as penalty for a LA.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
How do you not get at him?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You had one sack, you had a couple of things
where he was crumpling down.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's like when he had to when he had to move,
it was not pretty.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Why are you not blitzing on every every sing overload,
every single if you could beat us downfield, have at it.
But but all that to say, it's like, look for
folks that want to dismiss it, and we keep going
in the it's the indictment of the Colts. How about
it's the indictment of the rest of the NFL that
there's not a that you say, Okay, he might be

(10:02):
better physically, but it's so hard to come in and
learn the system whatever, that we're not gonna bother, you know.
I remember I remember Jerry Glanville telling this story. Was
it was really funny. Yeah, when Joe Namath was at
the end of his Cret. He played that very briefly
with the Rams when he thought, Hey, I'm gonna go
out to Hollywood and be a big, big TV start

(10:22):
everything else. He goes played for the Rams and like
his first or second game, I think they played whoever.
Jerry Glanvill's defensive coordator for maybe the Falcons and Lehman
Bennett was the head coach right, and it was just
absolutely awful for Joe Namath. Like he got hit, he
got sacked a whole bunch of times and everything and
it was just a really bad like it's one of

(10:42):
those where all the video highlights of Joe Namath with
the Rams, like we're from this game. It's like, oh
my god, Joe, like he couldn't run anymore yet, no
more mobility everything else. And he told a story where
I remember Jerry Glamville telling the story where he said
that after the game, the coach said to me, because
he was a defensive coordinator and he said, hey, uh
you did you You blitzed you know, Nameth a lot, right,

(11:03):
Like you made sure you blitz Nameth a lot in
this game. And he said, I said to him, coach,
I think there was one play where I did not
blitz him like we flits him on every single play.
I think there was one play we did not blitz him,
and I think he said it was like the end
of the half and thought they'd throw a hell Mary.
That's the only play they didn't blitz them all mass
Head splits him every single time.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
But that's what I thought we'd see. I mean, you
had we talked about it on Friday show. I mean,
and I was hoping for the best, which I thought
that the Colts could still win the game, and they
were there, but that you would attack. They were what
fourth or fifth coming into this weekend's game with forty
one team sacks. They got him once.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, you know. And here's the other part is that
maybe there was a quick because now Philip Rivers has
already been named the starter for Monday Night football against
the Niners, already already that he's been named the starter
for next week. I don't know if this was one
of those Hey, if you come out and play, we'll
guarantee you a couple of weeks. But if you are
the if you are the Colts, you want to say, Okay,

(12:00):
Riley Leonard is clear he's maybe coming back. Anthony Richardson,
as you said he was coming back, and you still
have three games left the regular season. He'll never come back.
Not that you're gonna keep Anthony Richardson, but boy, wouldn't
you want to put him out there? Wouldn't you want
to put Riley Leonard? Because Riley Leonard came in and
ran the offense pretty well, you know when he came
just just for that little bit in relief of Daniel Jones.

(12:21):
So I don't know if this was the case of where, hey,
we promised Philip another game or we promised him to
start the rest of the way, but you would think
for them the rest of this season, it's, well, we
really we want to get guys on the field that
can maybe get us to more points. Right, So it's
kind of it's it's I think there's a little more
drama surrounding Rivers comeback than you think, because it's not

(12:42):
like you suddenly let the world on fire. He's a
great it's a great story, but let's not get it
confused that you know, he looked like a guy that
was thrust in and at the minute you can get
back to your old quarterback, you go back there. Well,
the other part said that that was for River.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
That maybe you don't like either of those other quarterbacks,
and you realize that the playoffs are a distant past
in terms of your aptitude and ability. So now it's
the all right, let's just finish out the string. By
the way, again, San Francisco terrible rushing the passer. So
for Philip hey Man, he was able to stand tall

(13:16):
against the Seahawks, should be able to sit in the
pocket nice and clean against forty nine ers.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
A Christmas gift for us, we got to football was easy,
easiestly the softest apology I've ever heard of my life,
because I was only sort of wrong. I was only
sort of from here. I was only sort of wrong.
I didn't have to fully apologize. I sort of right,
do you I was? At first? Of all, they lost
the game. No, no, you thought he was gonna be

(13:41):
They lost the game. They lost the game. He did
everything you said he could. He threw one hundred and
twenty yards. I thought he was known for about one
hundred and twenty yards. He said he could. He didn't
know he did. By the way, the over under on
his passing yards was one hundred and fifty three pint Fay.
He wasn't even close. I was sort of wrong. I
was sort of wrong. You were very wrong. I was
sort of right. I would not be very wrong if
he went for two seventy five and three touchdowns and

(14:02):
they won thirty one twenty three, that I would have
been a hundred percent wrong.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I had people that don't care about football that were
texting me, going, this is not the greatest story ever.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
It's like I stopped watching when they left Sandy. Yeah, me,
look and all that stuff. Let's understand this. They're letting
a good story and and a really good showing. Like
he was. He was going to be sincere about it.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I don't need to be that fifty six goes wide.
Is Philip Rivers not the hero of the day, Okay,
but he's offensive players should ever happen.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
But that's it should have never he put them in
position to win.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, they had the big kickoff return and then it
just took a little bit after it.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
It did happen, it didn't not happen, wasn't happen, lost
Jets interception? Hey, egg, you know what else is not
happening this year? Frostburg the Chiefs winning a playoff game.
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(15:21):
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(16:40):
The Steelers win it twenty eight to fifteen. It's a
nice night for Aaron Rodgers twenty three out of twenty
seven for ninety eight yard Okay for two hundred and
twenty four yards and two scores. Enough. The Steelers get
out to a big lead. The Dolphins get a couple
of cosmetic touchdowns at the end to make it look
like it was closer than it was. But Steelers improved.

(17:01):
Eight and six, They lead the AFC North by a game.
The Dolphins done for the playoffs at six and eight.
Now with a big loss. Now, let's deal with the
Dolphins first, because this was a game that it kind
of surprised me because the Dolphins you look back and
you have this image of them at the end of
seasons when it's too cold and they can't function in

(17:22):
the cold, and I get it, but hey, you know,
last couple of years they have a couple of wins
in the cold in December. It's not like something. They
show up and going ready for the offseason to start.
But the thing is, you watch the Dolphins at the
end of the season, and tonight is the night where
you have to understand that only one of two people
is coming back to the Dolphins next year. It's either
gonna be Mike McDaniel or two tongue Vailoa. And you

(17:45):
know what, it ain't gonna be to them. McDaniel has
the casheane. Now, they could have quit it one in six.
They revamped their team. They became a run heavy team
and they won six in a row, and it was
great all of a sudden, Hey, way, they didn't quit.
That's what a big check mark in in Mike McDaniel's column.
But this was a night where the Dolphins needed points, right,

(18:07):
They couldn't impose their will on the game by running
the football like they have the last few weeks. Like
not a great night for h and though he didn't
really get a lot of carries, but they got behind
and needed to throw the football. And you watch Tua
when you get to when you get to this point
in the year, and you see he's got no zip
on the ball in the elements. He has a difficult
time throwing through them. It's a lot of it's a

(18:29):
lot of it's a lot of balloon balls. And he's
not the strongest guy obviously to throw the football to
begin with. It's not that he had a horrible night,
it's that you watch tonight and you go, there's no
way he's bringing them back. He's not dynamic enough. I mean,
you've seen enough from Tua over the past few years
to know that, all right, you're only gonna get him

(18:49):
to play a certain way. And when you don't have
playmakers everywhere, for him that you don't have Tyreek Hill
on the outside, don't have a really good tight end,
you know, you know he'll and waddle together. Were great.
When you don't have that, he's not He can't do it.
And to be a franchise quarterback, it's no longer the
case where a guy signs and well, he's staying because
they're paying them all that money. Yeah, no franchise quarterbacks

(19:12):
sign now for a couple of years. It's not working
out for a couple of years. Another team can take
that on and think, Okay, we can do what we
need to with Tua, we can turn him into something else.
And so a guy gets traded, right. We may see
that with Joe Burrow, may see with some other guys,
but Tua especially. You watch the game tonight and go, yeah,
how many more Decembers can the Dolphins walk in and say,
you know, on a night where we need points, we're

(19:32):
just not gonna get him. You can't do that anymore.
You can't. You can't keep winning trying to work around
your quarterback. And as time goes on, it's clear that
the Dolphins have to spend more time working around their
quarterback who is not getting a stronger arm. He's not
get We've seen the best of him, and Tua is
still somewhat serviceable. But in big games against big teams

(19:52):
in inclement weather, I mean this, these are the types
of nights he has, right, I mean, his stats look okay,
but you watch the first two and a hal half
quarters and they we're getting killed. Hey, a lot of
these stats are all in garbage time, and a couple
were just he just chucked it up in the end
zone to Darren Waller who made a big play. This
was not a great night, right. The numbers look okay
for Tua, but overall in this night, this was they

(20:15):
were down big. He can't make the throws. They need
to move on. And the good news is with a
lack of great prospects in the NFL draft this year,
I mean, maybe the College Football PLAYFF will have something
to do with it, and maybe a couple of guys rise,
maybe Dante Moore rises a little bit. But going into
the offseason, the Dolphins are gonna have to say, hey,
we can make two available, and you know what, some
teams that are unsure about drafting at the top, Hey,

(20:37):
we're not drafting high enough to get a pick. Hey,
we can do something for Tua. Either, you know, you
help pay a salary down we give you a decent
draft pick, or we pay a salary and we give
you absolutely nothing and we're in it for a couple
of years with him. But there's no way the Dolphins
can come back next year and say, Okay, this is
it with Tua. You've had enough chance. You have enough
chance with Mike McDaniel And the way they started turning

(20:59):
their season around was when they decided to have less
of him and more of everybody else. So when all
those things happen, you know that it's time for a change.
And I really I have a hard time seeing Tua
as the quarterback of the Dolphins next year.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's just tough to watch. Again. Some savor touchdowns. It
becomes the if you check the highlights and box score
versus actually watching the game. Because he had a couple
of inexplicable sacks that he took to create ridiculous down
distant situations, which takes eight chan except in the passing game,
kind of off the board for you in a number

(21:32):
of those circumstances. And we've talked about his arm strength,
it's all timing, routes and everything for a long time, right,
the occasional go get it once upon a time with
Tyreek Hill. Well, that guy's not on the field fifteen
to twenty mile an hour wins all the way he
throws the ball. You're putting it up now, and when
he did, what happened disaster? Right, So you're trying to

(21:55):
work the run game, which they were inexplicably not willing
to commit to early. No TJ Watt, I get it.
You get excited that you don't have the pass rusher
out there, but that also weakens what they can do upfront.
So why are you not trying to take advantage of
It's been where your strength is. Your defense has been
great today Aaron Rodgers. It was all short completions and

(22:16):
a lot of yak Like no tackling one on one
open field tackling was an absolutely atrocious Uh, this is
a tape to show It's like, all right, this is
how to not try to attack a runner in the
open field. They they had the run after Friar Moot's
third catch. He had forty five yards receiving thirty three
after the catch, like running free in the secondary was

(22:37):
like what.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Are we Doing's that a threat to throw it outside
the numbers? Aaron Rodgers is smart because he fades back.
He drops back to pass further than ever before to
make it look like those passes are really lost. He's
really gonna fool you. So it's all an opted force perspective.
He's got a thirty seven step drop. When thirty seven
he threw it out tonight to Kenneth Gainwell, there was
a thirty seven strip step drop. It would wow. The

(23:00):
ball traveled forty yards, game three yards, but it traveled four.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
It was good air yards, air yards per attempt. He
can pad those stats. But to also the narrative continues, right,
what's the graphic you see? It was Mike Tomlin record
at home on Monday night football. Well, now he's twelve
and zero and for Tua, it's the sixth game. He's
zero and six. When the game time temperatures under forty degrees.
It was sixteen degrees, felt like what they say eleven

(23:26):
or ten degrees or whatever. It was not quite as
cold as Chicago, but still the ball is a rock
as you're getting it out there, and it's a balloon
ball that he throws normally does to us, So it
becomes that much more difficult a proposition to get him
to drive it into spots. And even without TJ. Watt,
they got heat on him dropping back and he's drifting,

(23:49):
and again, how he doesn't throw the ball out of
bounds live to see another play instead of absorbing the
sacks is beyond me, particularly when he's rolling to the left.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
And I'll never understand that, no matter the quarterback, if
you're rolling to your arm side, you're throwing arm side,
how you don't just do the little flick out of
bounds and just save the down, save the yardage instead
of absorbing the sack because you're not suddenly gonna break free.
Two is not suddenly gonna do one of those Caleb
Williams throws like finding DJ Moore that ull it to

(24:21):
the back of the end zone and he goes. I
can make any throw. Jua can't do that.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, he can make a couple of throws. Even even
though that first touchdown to Darren Waller was a beautiful
throw right in between two defenders.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
At that point, it's garbage time. It's garbage time. You're
not making that comeback when he needed the throw. He
didn't have it.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
What do you got Frostburg? Jason, you mentioned this.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
The Dolphins have had recent success in the cold.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
At some point they've been okay, yeah, well their recent
success was beating the Jets. Its actually been nowhere near Okay,
when do you think their last win in the cold
has been?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
No, they've won games in December. No, they haven't. Yeah
they have hot cold games, yeah they yeah, they have.
They actually haven't won one since twenty sixteen, oh, including
the playoffs in Buffalo. But but ah, I think I
think they have.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
A couple more wins than they actually don't. But it's
it's not just December.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, but it's it's a cold it's it's the cold win.
It's it's in cold weather against other teams in twel
so women go back in twenty twenty four. Last year
in December, they won at Cleveland, okay, twenty to three,
and they lost to the Jets. But okay, they won
at Cleveland, which was a cold game. Right last year

(25:30):
at Cleveland December twenty ninth, that's a cold game, right.
Are the four games they played in December. They won
it home again San Francisco, they lost to Cleveland. They
lost to the Jets, so they won a game there
in twenty twenty three. You want to go back because
that was that was a cold game there twenty twenty three.
In December, the Dolphins lost at Baltimore fifty six to nineteen,

(25:54):
which is a bad lot. It's a bad l all right,
and I'm not telling it's not a bad l. But
they all they they beat Buffe at the end of
the season, Buffalo, they have it win. I'm tell you
that Buffalo. They haven't done that. But you want to
but go back that they can still play. Okay, it's again,
it's not great, But it's not that it's all on
the Dolphins that they can say, oh, they haven't won
this game. They won a game they beat New England.

(26:18):
So it's a it's a look, it's a case of
it's not just the Dolphins can't win in cold weather.
It's not it's it's not just that. It's you have
to have a team that can win in cold weather
at the end of the season, right, you can't. You can't.
You can't have a team that can't win in cold weather.
And it's when it gets a point where, hey, you
need to win games to get to the playoffs, to

(26:39):
get to the super Bowl. And that's about having a
quarterback that can make those kind of throws. Right, It's
if they had a different if they had an all
weather quarterback, they had someone that could, you know, like
in Aaron Rodgers in his prime, or someone they didn't
won more game, they didn't won more games down the stretch,
it'd be more of a threat when he got to
December and January.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Well, it's funny because I immediately go, all right, let's
take that Cleveland win, you know, unseasonal high high forties
to sixty degree because was it temph so Joe shadd
about an hour ago without the comeback, and this is
in the final minutes. I won fourteenth streak under forty.
Now again, game time temperature for that one last year
was hot. Because this is where we could get into, well,

(27:16):
it's a little fuzzy manner is cold, but under forty
is where we're deciding.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
It's under forties, not that forty and above is not
cold for four but here in California, thirty eight, sixty
five and under is cold for some year. Thirty eight
is not cold. Thirty five is not coty twenty is cold.
Thirty seven in a row like twenty twenty is cold.
Ten is called, but like.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Even more so.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
They should have won some of those. Look they beat
the Jets two weeks ago. Oh wait, that ruined.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
That ruins my point four and thirteen in prime time
under Mike McDaniel. Twenty five straight years without a playoff,
and that's Joe shadd You.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Gotta know that two is not gonna look legit or
win games in December and January. Right, you have to
know and nothing's changing, that nothing's changing where you play.
We have to play in January. It's okay. We have
to make sure we go get a guy that you know,
the ball can cut through the air, the guy can
make big throws that I can throw the ball downfield.
It's great in September and October in the in the

(28:10):
heat of Miami when you can do all that, But
when your quarterback can't make those throws, right, I mean,
what else you gonna do. Look, they've been winning all
the way through when they decided to go, hey we're
run heavy. They're winning all the games, right, winning all
the games, winning all the games, winning all the games.
When they have to throw the football. Look what happens
right like that? Again, you want to talk about forty
degrees being called the temperature dipped under forty against the
Jets a couple of weeks ago. It didn't matter to

(28:30):
it enough to do anything, and they ran for two
hundred and eighty yards. All right, that's what we talk about.
That the other part with you just I mean, we
danced around it. The guy's a turnover machine.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
He's like, he threw that pick today, but he's basically
one to one for the season, right, he keeps the
the margin above that you know, even number because he
got the second touchdown pass to Waller, but he came
in at what seventeen and fifteen? Yeah, so it's he
giveth and he taketh away. So you're you're never getting

(29:02):
over with that. It's not nineteen seventy eight anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I mean, and just think about the think about mentally
for the team, right, if you're the team, if you're
Dolphins nation, if you're that after this year, the Dolphins nation,
we are Every team has a nation, Okay, and they
going next season saying yep, we are coming back next year.
We're gonna be healthy. And two was gonna do it that.
That's like, uh, you're taking all the wind out of
our sales before the season even starts, Like, oh, we're

(29:26):
gonna try it again with Tua. They've tried it enough.
They need something.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Let me ask the question. We're deposits for season tickets already.
Do time now to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. But guy's been called the Aaron
Rodgers of Fox Sports Radio. He likes to drink aahuasca
tea very late at night. Nope, it's Steve Disager just relaxing.
Oh just right, relax You.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Tell me that that cup of tea you have it
is just relaxation in a cup? Is that what it is?

Speaker 4 (29:54):
On the degrees as we give it the third degree,
that's that I can clear up. You're both correct. The
stat is that the Dolphins have gone almost a decade
without winning a game. When it's under forty degrees at kickoff, yes,
all more correct. Last week it was forty one degrees
at kickoff when they won the Jets.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I tried, but it dipped under me. But there was
a big deal during the game. It dipped under four.
It's all about kickoff.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
This is it's right we decide where are starting right
the last four weeks, for the last six weeks, it's.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Like the stat on the show before you of you
know Steph Curry when he's trying a game winning shot
with fifty seconds left, with what fifty how about just
say the last two minutes? So the last one minute, boy,
you really have an agenda here. And to a tongue
of iloa. With that early pick tonight, that is a
career high fifteen interceptions, most in the NFL this season.

(30:48):
So you know Gino Smith today off so to it
takes the lead. That's the most interceptions by any Dolphin
in over a decade. And what really the Dolphins have
needed is some thing the Chargers exhibited throughout the second
half yesterday is they need a guy with minimum protection
who can still run the offense and a team in
general that's toughness, shows toughness even in cold weather. When

(31:11):
Joe Burrow was drafted twenty twenty and he was taking
number one overall, that was the year the Dolphins were
taking a quarterback. They had the fifth selection overall, Chargers
had number six. Dolphins took to it and then the
Chargers got Justin Herbert and then Green Bay took Jordan
Love later in the first round, and then Jalen Hurts
went to Philadelphia early in the second round. By the way,

(31:33):
Steelers beat the Dolphins twenty eight to fifteen. Tonight, Steelers
were down three to nothing late first half. I did
not realize this. The Steelers have scored seven points or
less in a first quarter in sixty four straight games, now,
all under Mike Tomlin, and that is the longest set
streak by any head coach in NFL history. Aaron Rodgers

(31:55):
was barely pressured tonight, had two touchdown passes. He was
twenty three of twenty seven for two hundred and twenty
four yards. He was pressured on four of his dropbacks tonight,
four out of his thirty, so he completed eighty five
percent of his passes, his highest in a game in
over a year. And just to compare the kind of

(32:15):
pressure we saw last night in Dallas, for example, Dak
Prescott was pressured over fifty percent of the time he
dropped back to pass, which was the highest pressure rate
he has faced in a game in three years. Steelers
now eight and six, and yes, Pittsburgh's franchise has won
twenty three straight at home on Monday Night football dating
back to nineteen ninety one. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes had

(32:38):
surgery tonight on his torn ACL. The Jets fire defensive
coordinator Steve Wilkes. The Colts will start quarterback Philip Rivers
again next Monday Night. Washington shut down QB Jaden Daniels
for the rest of the season with the bad left elbow,
and Yes, Packers defensive end Micah Parsons does have a
torn ACL. The MRI confirmed that today in the NBA,

(32:58):
Detroit is now twenty one, one and five after winning
at Boston one twelve to one oh five final seconds.
Utah has tied Dallas one twenty nine to one twenty nine.
Cooper Flag of the MAVs has forty points as Anthony
Davis is out with a Bruce caf Tonight. Toronto won
at Miami one oh six ninety six. Gard Tyler, hero

(33:18):
of the heat, out with a toe injury, and right
now it's at Denver, a Nuggets lead over Houston ninety
five ninety three with under ten minutes to go. Kevin
Durant twenty two points for the Rockets. Arizona remained number
one in the men's basketball ap Paul Michigan still number
two NHL wins for Dallas and Anaheim. The Atlanta Braves
resigned shortstop has sung Cam back to you.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Thank you, Steve O. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. We got more on Monday
Night football coming up in a bit. But straight ahead.
One quarterback done for the year, another one gonna play
the rest of the way, whether he wants to or not.
That's next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Be sure to catch live edition of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
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Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, but uh, one.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Quarterback going one way, one quarterback going the other way.
This quarterback saying, hey, what do you want for me? Uh?
Jayden Daniels will not play the rest of the season.
The Commanders shutting him down right call you're done. You
don't want him to turn into RG three. If we
talked about it last week, that that seems to be
the career path he is on year one he was terrific.

(34:37):
Three separate injuries year two, you want to make sure
that you haven't protected as much as possible. No reason
to keep him up right this year. Your season's done.
You need playmakers next year. There's gonna be big changes
in Washington because of the dive they took this year
from one step before the Super Bowl to where they
sit now. So yeah, no reason to play him. The
right call to sit him out the one hundred percent.

(34:59):
I'm with the commanders on fully expected the regression from
a year ago, right, all of those one score wins,
just like we talked about with the Chiefs all the
way through that there would be some reckoning. Did you
think he would go completely the other way for both
those squads? No, But when Daniels came back against the Vikings,

(35:19):
that made absolutely no.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Sense to me. Given the severity of that injury. It's
kind of like, you know, some of the other quarterbacks
that we'll talk about, but with Daniels, the initial response
and diagnosis and what we got as far as information
about that injury, it's like, why are you gonna push back,
especially a guy that wants to still be mobile, a

(35:41):
guy that wants to get you know stretch plays and
make plays with his legs. You're just putting yourself in
harm harm's way against a team that is known for
blitzing the hell.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Out of you.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Right, Why would you put him in harm's way behind
a bad offensive line when your season is already lost.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah. And the other part, and this is why I disagree,
is that Joe Burrow is going to play the rest
of the season for the Bengals, Zach Taylor saying in
a press conference today, we want to win. Okay, I
get it, I understand. Wow, dude, Joe Burrow wants out. Right.
We talked about this last week his happiness conversation. Joe

(36:21):
Burrow is a kind He's got a lot of lebron
He's got a lot of media savvy in him. He
knows what he's doing when he says things to the media.
He's not someone that's just gonnay. Hey, I wore my
heart on my sleeve for a few minutes than I
shouldn't have. He's not happy, you know, he wants out
and this is his beginning of doing it. You want
to make sure he is happy more than anything else,

(36:41):
and is putting him out there to potentially get him
hurt or be more unhappy the way to go. Look,
you watch him play yesterday was terrible, right. Jason locking
Forward joined us last couple hours ago and said, look,
I've never seen him more disinterested in a football game
than I saw him play yesterday. The main thing you
have nothing to play for now is just you want

(37:03):
Joe Burr to be happy going forward in Cincinnati and
is playing the next three week when it looks like
he doesn't want to play anymore, and when you're not
playing for anything, and you want to keep him in
a positive frame of mind. Now, I'm not somebody that
always feels like, hey, hand holding is what has to
be done, but you got to keep your franchise quarterback happy.
And I don't know what plus you're gonna get all
of a Sudden's he gonna rediscover his love for the

(37:24):
Bengals the next three weeks or is it gonna be.
There's no way you can make it better, but you
can make it worse. If he goes out there and
gets his ass kicked the next three weeks, that's just
gonna hasten the decline and his desire to get out
of town. What you're doing is you're kind of holding
it if you don't play in the last three weeks. Okay,
you can maybe repair things in the offseason and talk

(37:45):
to him, make adjustments to the offense, the offensive line,
whatever it's going to be to keep him upright, and
things can be better. But if he has a bad
last three weeks, if you're not gonna have a chance,
he's gonna say I went out the day after the
season ends. So there's no good that can be done
for this. This is where the Bengal no matter what
kind of conversations we got to understand, keeping him happy
is the best way, and the best way is to

(38:06):
just take some time away now and look at things
in the offseason.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Can I be honest with you here, Let's be honest
with you. Be in America and the globe.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
He absolutely torpedo all the high thoughts I had of
him with that effort or lack thereof. Yesterday he was.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
So disinterested and air mailing walls. There was one where
he kind of stopped instead of getting out of bounds,
he went to flick it and then he got mad
that someone hit him. It's like, no, you're still in
the field to play. If you don't want to be there.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Walk off, walk off, Like I really thought that when
we had that happiness thing, It's all right, I'll still
find my happiness on the field.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I could be mad about all of this stuff. And
I was the first to try to yell from the mountaintops, like, no,
there's no Andrew Luck situation here. That's a bunch of nonsense.
He fought back and after all that fighting, that's the
effort you're gonna put out there against the division rival,
your division.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah no that.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
If I'm a teammate, I'm pissed beyond all belief that
you went out there and gave that kind of effort.
You could say what you want. You can be selling
about the team and whatever, and you maybe you need
a hug. Fine, But for those sixty minutes, you got
eleven guys on the other side that want to kill you.
And that's what you do. That is the effort you

(39:22):
come out with.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
You got shut out. This is it's hard.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
To get shut out and the nation, unless you're the Raiders,
it's hard to get shut out in the National Football League.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
This is the playbook that stars have to play by
when they want out.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I divest any shares in liking Joe Burrow. This is
the man.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
This is the playbook that guys have to play by
if you're a star and you want out, because you
know the Bengals the way they operate, it ain't gonna
be easy. Ain't gonna be easy. It's not gonna be Hey,
it's not working. Where where we're looking at this now,
it's gonna be all we're gonna sit at you and
not trigguing. We watched Mike Brown do it with Carson
Palmer all those years ago, and he sat for a
long time like, get what you're saying. But this is

(40:02):
him starting to throw that out there. I came back,
I don't know why you even played last night.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
But that's the thing, I don't know why saying I'm
not doing it. There's no point in this point where
mathematically eliminated. It's better for me mentally, physically and for
the team that I'm right going on.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
But that's where the team has to do that and
step up for him instead of letting him say I
want out the team, No, we're sitting you out like
That's where the team has to has to take it.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
But either way that can all happen behind the scenes
and you don't end up. It's one thing to let
everybody have the wide open interpretations of your press conference.
It's another thing to go put forth a lackluster effort
when everybody's waiting to see what happens on a Sunday
against the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Well, I'm more on this story, plus another big breaking
story out of college football next fall.
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