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August 2, 2024 40 mins

On tonight's edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the hosts start the hour by reacting to the NFL Hall of Fame Game going final after severe weather ends the preseason opener in the third quarter. Next NFL Insider Jason Cole joins the show to talk the NFL Hall of Fame Game, the new rule change on kickoffs, and all other headlines coming out of the National Football League. Finally, Jason and Mike react to Seahawks QB Geno Smiths knee and hip injuries and look into what the next move could be for Seattle. Tune in to Hour 2 for all this and more!

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(00:49):
We are still in a weather delay the Pro Football
Hall of Fame game between the Texans and the Bears
that the Bears are actually winning. Delay twenty one seven
team still three minutes ago on the third quarter. At
some point they're going to say this game is over,
but they're sticking with it for now. We're waiting to
see if the weather is going to move and they

(01:10):
can continue to play this game. I would be okay
if they came back and said, you know what, listen,
the game is kind of a we don't really care anymore.
Let's just have fifteen minutes worth of kickoff plays. Let's
just really see what we can do on here. Let's
just have fifteen minutes worth of kickoff plays. Well, that
would be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
And they can do it in the rain like it's
a slip and slide like the Bears have been using
for their quarterbacks in practice.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
But it's a final. Oh it just came through. Oh
you're right, I just see it. I mean think it
just came through. It is a final. It is now
over twenty one, So now we can't have the kickoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Third one called all time because of weather. And now
we'll just await all of the headlines about the different
sports books and whether they pay out. Remember they did
hit the over with the twenty one seven team tilt.
Yours were plus one and a half for that. So yeah,
it's it's all good things. It's uh, you know, safety

(02:10):
man safety, I'm I'm mister safety lightning in the I've gotten.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
The radar up.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
You gotta take care of them. You gotta get him
home safely. You man, let's go out in the rain.
Let's go out in the rain. I'm against the elements.
I'm king lear right, my garmin. I'm against players.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I am not the golfer in Caddy Shack. I'm having
the greatest round of my life. Oh, the Good Lord
would never disturb the greatest round of my Okay, I'd
keep playing, bishop uh so. Yes, So that's it for
football over. We got got Jason Cole coming up in
about twenty minutes. We'll talk about the new kickoff rule
with him. All the other big news in the NFL

(02:49):
today the injury to Justin Herbert Gino. Smith is now
banged up, and that's a thing. But earlier today, big
Olympic headline tay, Yes, we watched some own biles win
the individual medal, and we watched team USA defeat Belgium
eighty seven seventy four women's hoops. So now the US
team goes to two and zero on their way towards

(03:10):
the gold medal. Now there was good and there was
bad in this. We'll do the bad first and get
to the good. Get to the bad. Yeah, well, the
bad is the other thing is the bad is a
great hot take. The bad is it. We should do
the good first. Let's do the good. Let's do the
good first and build up.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
That way we could get the fire sound effect that
I tried to emulate yesterday.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, that was terrible. Man. I was hurt my throat.
I I was on log lozica is the rest of
the night. I was up late.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I had to, you know, suck down some tea and
try to try to calm down my throat after what
was one of the worst sound effects. Look, Michael Winslow,
I'm not coming for your job. Let's just take that one.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
A game that was a lot closer than the final
score indicates, right, Sabri Hindesk, you made a three that
didn't mean anything in the final seconds to give it
to make it a thirteen point win. But this was
a game where the United States struggled, And we'll get
to that because that's the hot take. But of all
going on, of all the the the ills or what
we've seen from Team USA so far, international basketball women's

(04:17):
is in the is in the place where the men's
were for a long time, where our players are just
so much better than the rest that we normally roll
over them. Right, The women haven't lost a game since
the semi finals in nineteen ninety two in a row. Yeah,
it's it's it's it's a crazy number. Now this year,
much like the men, it looks like it's going to
be a little bit more difficult. Maybe not a ton

(04:39):
more difficult, but a little bit. Not as more difficult
as going to be for the men, but it's going
to be a little bit more difficult. That being said,
I'll go back to what I said at the very
beginning of the Olympics, and and and right, I feel
like I can be an NBA analyst here in the Olympics.
Is that? What did I say opening night? No matter
what happens with the United States, I can't see Asia

(05:02):
Wilson and Brianna Stewart not bringing home the gold medal.
The bigs we have and Brittany Grinder as well. But
Grinder's minutes are down a little bit. You gotta wonder
what her stamina is going to be like. Obviously she
had a you know, look, her attention was spent today
a little bit. We had the big prisoner exchange and
she weighed in on that. Obviously, going back to you know,
thinking about Russia on a day like this. She had
some quotes on it. But Brianna Stewart and Asia Wilson

(05:25):
are far and away the best players in the world
right now. And I'm watching Brianna Stewart make a steal
in the open court in the fourth quarter when Belgium's
cut the lead to six and going in and setting
up a layup, and it's how can you stop these bigs? Well,
she was the best guard on the court. Fo I know,
right she's making she makes guard like plays, like for

(05:45):
someone who plays big down load. She she is so
athletic that she makes those guard like plays. She was
the best guard. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if
she might need some time at guard because because obviously
the guard is struggling again, that's part of the hot
take coming up. But between her and Asia Wilson, they're unstoppable.
They're absolutely unstoppable. And I can't see the two of

(06:08):
them not leading the United States to a gold medal.
And I said it night one, and now it's being
said now because they each combine for forty nine to
the eighty seven points for Team USA. There are only
three players or two players overall in double figures and
it was the two of them, so quite honestly, yeah,
this is how it's gonna go. It's gonna be Stuart

(06:28):
and Wilson because when all else fails, they are just
dominating the competition. I mean, whether it's their height, their talent,
there is no way to stop them. And the best
part is they can both play on the floor together
and if someone needs a break, Britney Grinder comes out,
it's impossible to stop her. That's gonna be the formula
the United States uses to get to the gold medal
as many issues as they have, and they do. I

(06:50):
can't see Brianna Stewart and Asia Wilson not hold holding
the American flag up at the end after winning the
gold medal game, and it's look at the two of them.
Take your picks to who the MVP is. Asia Wilson
was this and Brianna Stewart was this. We're going to
win on their backs, and that's how it's gonna end. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I mean you work down low and you see obviously
Stewart in the open court as well, adding that element
of the game. But just as much as Belgium did
to try to slow them down and all credit in
the world right, and they said it on the telecast,
And it's something you and I have been talking about
in these games, trying to figure out and you do

(07:29):
this at all sporting events, but certainly in these Olympics,
trying to figure out where the line is for the referees,
right in terms of foules they're gonna call, how much
contact's gonna be allowed in the low post or up
at the three point arc, all of those things. And
for Belgium they did, I think a pretty good job
or as much as you could to try to contain

(07:50):
things down low, being physical and adding to a degree
of difficulty to the just shot making of the bigs.
For the US team, so with the guards struggling out
front and not really being able to hit much in
the way of long distance, and that continues to be
an issue, dumping down low is really the order of

(08:12):
the day because they're going to be unstoppable. And I'll
just play the math there that I'll take my two
point shots with them against everybody else in the world
shooting threes, especially if you get a little more active
on the defensive end. But yeah, they were just fun
to watch. I mean, Stuart was unbelievable, like she had
a run that you know, you just had a highlight

(08:35):
reel of hers went en route to a twenty six
point performance.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now we get to the hot take.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh again, let's go.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
If Caitlin Clark was on the Olympic team, she would
be starting the next game. That's how much the guards
have struggled so far in the Olympics, right, for different reasons.
And let's say you and it's becoming more and more
apparent how ridiculously bad choice it was to not bring
to the Olympics, right, because you could have brought her
as a curiosity. You could have brought her as hey,

(09:04):
we take the number one overall pick to the Olympics
like they've always done, but they decided not to this
year because they're petty and they're jealous. Right, you could
have brought Caitlin Clarks. You could have had some mop
up minutes or small minutes the first couple of games,
and then after today you realize, hey, the WNBA assist
leader needs to play and needs to start because the
guards have struggled so much. The United States played five

(09:27):
guards today, Okay, and there was a little bit of
good from a couple of them. But you're talking about
five players who combined to go six of twenty from
the floor, fourteen assists and nine turnovers. This was five guard.
This is not one player. These are five guards. This
is Chelsea Grand, Diana Tarassi, and Sabria Ironescu. When Kelsey,
Plumb and Lloyd they were not good. They have trouble

(09:50):
affecting the game. They have trouble affecting the game offensively
because they can't score whatever it is, They can't find
their way to the hoop and they can't hit their shots. Right,
the United States has not been good. They've got nothing
out of there. You've got zero points out of your
starting backcourt. Today's zero. Right, you've got sixteen points five right,
the assists. You've got sixteen points out of your guards total, right,

(10:10):
sixteen fourteen and nine turnovers. No one's affecting the game
and playing well. No one is. And they're having trouble
getting the ball to the bigs. And this is why
maybe Brianna Stewart playing a little bit of guard. Hey,
I can get the ball up over everybody. I can
get the ball to Asian Wilson. Don't worry about it.
I could do that absolutely. Like, the best thing I
saw today, quite honestly, out of any of their guards

(10:32):
was Kelsey Plumb defensively being able in the fourth quarter
to harass Belgium's guards where they couldn't affect the game
right because they had to shoot some threes. And Van
lu who is one of their best players, one out
of eleven from three point range.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Well, she was off balance and yeah, adjusting and trying
to do quick release because of the length of the
US and yeah, you know, Plumb defensively had a good
hand in that.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, defensively, that's the best thing I saw from any
of the guards was that Plum. Defensively, Yes, she was
pretty good, but you need something else offensively because these
games have just been too close and it's kind of
stop and go. It's kind of just, hey, let's get
the ball to Stuart and Wilson and they'll figure it out.
And you gotta have more than that because eventually, in
this tournament you're gonna play better teams, teams that have

(11:18):
seen you play and go, Hey, your guards have trouble,
they got trouble with the ball, they have trouble defensively,
they still lose players, They're still able to. You know,
Belgium was still able to free up players on screens
and they were able to get some threes. They just
shot horribly from three point range. So you're at this
point now, if you were Cheryl Reeve and you brought Caitlin,
you would have to bite the bullet and go, my goodness,

(11:40):
I can't stand her. I don't want her on the team.
I'm petty and I'm jealous, but you would have to
start her because at least she's someone that's gonna get
to the hoop or be able to get there and
dish and find the open player. It's been a struggle
with And you can sit here and say, oh, it's feeb,
but it's this. But these are five guards I'm watching
playing and they gave the most run to eye and
escue coming off the bench. I could say, okay, yeah,

(12:02):
she did have five assists, six points, but again three
of those points were on that last second three when
the game was up, when they.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Were up ten oclock, so it didn't you know, it
still counts just the same.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
But yeah, I'm not seeing anything from them that tells me, hey,
they're gonna be okay. You know, first game, jitters all right,
let's let's leave it out there. First game, jitters, they'll
figure things out. Going to the second game, No, it
was still trouble. They still had way too much trouble.
And the guards whatever it is, they're just not here.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Wouldn't you like to have, uh, a Caitlin Clark that
you could go to to say, all right, let's see
if she can open up the offense a little bit
or maybe hit a three, because nobody's really hitting threes, right,
that's the whole thing. They had five threes all game today.
And this is a this is a feb A tournament
where hitting threes is like, this is how you win medals,
you know, so someone that can hit from the outside.
At some point, you can't just you can't just concentrate

(12:53):
all your defense on Caitlin Clark like you ken in
the WNBA, where hey, you only have a couple of
players to worry about. You got five players on the
court to worry she'd be able to be open up
for threes. If Caitlin Clark was off the team, and
she should have been, she'd be starting the next game.
They would all have to roll their eyes and go, Okay,
maybe this is what we need, But you gotta go
to something, because boy, they struggled in the backcourt the

(13:14):
last two games, and you can't just wait and let
them play it out and go, Okay, we're peaking were
this the men are starting to figure it out. Okay, Hey,
they're getting to the point where all right now, now
we're seeing they're getting used to phoebea, they'reetting used to
the rotations. Who's playing, who's not. I'm seeing I saw
the same thing in the second game of the United
States that I saw in the first game. We struggled
too much, but Stuart and Nasa Wilson build us out.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah. How fun would it be to see Caitlin Clark
with the no look passes down low right to the
cutting big and you know stuff that as you got
towards the back end of the first half of the season,
that communications she had with the Leah Boston and some
of the bigs there for Indiana, that you translate that
into the Olympic Olympic mark and look, we don't need

(13:59):
to relitigate the the beginning of failure UH to to
get on board UH and make sure you established your
place uh in the Olympics, because you're being dwarfed by
Ladeki Biles and everything else, just like just like normal.
Right now, you've got the rugby team that's trumped you
with Caitlin Clark. There there's still front page news, I

(14:22):
mean real back page of the fish Wrap. Right now,
you and I are highlighting the issues and the problems.
I don't think they're getting that same level of attention elsewhere.
So we'll be the ones with the megaphones going.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You have issues. I mean, you created yourself and and look,
and I'm watching and look, and I want to I'm
not like hate watcher. And no, of course I want
us to win. I want us to dominate, want us
to do well. I love the fact that that that
we have this kind of attention, that the ratings for
the first women's game were the highest ratings of anything
until someone Biles got involved. Now suddenly everybody that we

(14:55):
get Hey, I'll show you about star power. I'm someone Biles,
but uh, game, but it it's great to see. But look,
I got call like I see it. We talked about
what's been great for the United States. The guards haven't
been good and if you know, and I don't know
what kind of meetings. They have to happen. They got
to look at each other and go, you know, I
want to stop this. They need Caitlin Clark stuff. Let's
get out and get this done. Let's motivate, right. We

(15:15):
have not been good against subpar competition. We have to
find a way. And they all kind of look lost.
They all look like they're pressing, like they want to
make plays in the back court. You know, Kelsey Plumb
looks like she's pressing, and I and Esque looks like
she's pressing. They all look like, Hey, we really want
to make plays and find a way to open up
this game right away. And it's just not happening for them.
You can see their sense of of I don't want

(15:37):
to say urgency, but it's more like panic where just
a couple of times down the court and suddenly everything's
gonna be great. No, it's not been the case, and
it's been two games of it now. Yeah, Kayln Clark
should have been there, she'd be starting le Just think
about that, think about that story. Life to the limit.
Kaitlin Clark's gonna start Game three. We get ready for
the metal Round. Kaylin Clark's in the starting lineup for
dm USA. People would say, oh, it's nice and on
Biles got twelve million viewers. Now it's like thirty million

(15:58):
view It's like watching the fun An Alley of American Idol. Hey,
so many people are now watching Team USA women. It's awesome.
They can still fly her in right.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Umm.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, someone's gotta go with a mystery injury. They got
any somewhere a mystery injury. Oh I'm not.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Feeling it well, I mean just just from a roster standpoint,
how does it work?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh no, no, I got it, No, I got it.
You have embiid. Hey, EMBIID, you're injured, You're out. And
they just don't replace his spot, but they give the
extra roster spot to Caitlyn Clark who comes and plays
on the women's desk. That's creative. Yeah, see, that's got
to get creative in the Olympics. Man's that. I'm sure
there's a how long would it take them to figure
out that rule? If that rule is wrong and by
that time the gold medal game is over and they

(16:37):
had they won already, it doesn't matter. We can figure.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Out to grab one of the lawyers from the billboards
or Jim Harbaugh, uh and they'll be able to get
us to the Promised Land.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
They would say, Hey, Jason, what about what? I don't
know that this rule is right? Yeah? No, I might.
Oh wow, is the sin still dirty? Wait what? I'll
see it later. I gotta go take care of that.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, you go, you go, and you rule. You're just
being a simple cave man that I am.

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Speaker 1 (18:28):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon livethetyrack dot com studios. Due to inclement weather,
not clement weather, not Corey clement Weather. Wow. Pro Football
Hall of Fame game ended rather early, three and a
half to go in the third quarter. The rain came,

(18:49):
the lightning came, everybody left the field, people left the stands,
and the Bears get a win. That might be the
only way for the Bears to win a game. If
where you can stop a game when the Bears are winning. Hey,
he gets what every week you might need that Mike
Hall weather system's rolling in. But it's only three nothing
and we've only played the game for a minute and
a half. Yeah, sorry, it game's over. Bears win three nothing.

(19:11):
That may be your best strategy. You want to count
with me?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Gonna be your best round one, two, three, four, Oh
it's broke.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Don't tempt fate pal all the best strategy all just
find a but can't be the same weather pattern every week.
They got. You gotta have tornadoes, you gotta have rain,
you gotta have sleep, you gotta have ice, you gotta
have mud storms, you gotta have all kinds of stuff happening.
You had something different every week.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
This is like that machine that being the Merciless had
nineteen eighties classic Flator. Yeah yeah, the big weather machine
can just start pressing buttons.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
What do we feel like now? Thanks to their weather machine,
the Bears are eleven to o going into game this weekend. Whoever,
it's in a dome on the road. Let's see what happens.
Joining us now in the hotline to break down the
latest news in the NFL. Long time NFL insider, it's
his weekend and we have the Pro Football Hall of
Fame game. He is a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter.

(20:06):
It is longtime NFL inside in front of the show,
Jason Cole Jake Call what's happening, Bud.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Yes, Hall of Fame, Say it right, say it loud,
say it proud.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Hall of This is the only week I'm actually going
to say it because it's actually coming up and I
feel bad.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Actual Hall of Fame. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
No, you have a lot of very good players getting
inducted in this weekend.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
The Hall of case Keenum. It's the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Well wait till someone makes the case Keenum case in
about ten years. Remember the Minneapolis Miracle changed football.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
For happening, not happening, not happening. He's case. I was
looking it up. He's lived in more places during his
career than you would think it's evenly possible in a
ten year career, Like he should be taking that is
it home dot Com race from Jeff gold Bloom, Like

(21:02):
he should be doing that ad. That's how many different
places work.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
We've got a gold Bloom reference and we've won nice
all right. So hey, so you saw your first review.
What'd you think of the new kickoff role.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I think it's gonna be really hard to return kicks
for touchdowns because you know they're already covering every inch
of the field, and if you're covering every inch of
the field from a short distance, I don't know how
the returner either sets up where they're supposed to go,
or how you know, the blockers in front of them
set anything up. So I think the net is that

(21:42):
you reduce the high speed collisions and you keep returns,
that you keep the chance of her turn for touchdown
at a minimum. That's probably no no big net difference
than what it was before or the awful rules that
they had before, where especially when everybody's just kicking out

(22:06):
of the back of the end round all the time.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
You know, I look at it like this, Maybe this
is gonna be something the teams figure out as time
goes on. I get it, but I'm not a big
save the kickoff guy. I feel like they've done a
lot and if and if this looks too clownish and
cartoonish and too XFL esque, I think they could say, listen,
offensive possession is just going to start in the twenty
five yard line unless you want to on sidekick, and

(22:30):
I think we'd move.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
On pre we just we just got a suckers walk. Yeah,
that's all. That's that's just yeah, like you you guys
go to the other end.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You guys walk, you guys walk, w win does the
losers walk?

Speaker 5 (22:42):
All right?

Speaker 1 (22:42):
We go down to the other red for the kickoff.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
But that goes exactly exactly, that's right. Yeah, yeah, and
we can play shirts and skins too.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
See this is escalating quickly. I dig this.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, it's only fun that we're talking about these kickoff
rules while Devin Hester gets to go into the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
So you know, it's a good week to bring that
up right away, didn't She just went right to that. Well,
didn't wait, didn't even wait a second, didn't wait one second.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
No, do not pass.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
It was it was it was either straight. It is
either straight to Devon or can we talk about how
Caleb Williams looked on the sideline?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
No, no, you're missing Steve McMichael going in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
He had yet three choices there, so that was option
numbers three, which is the way that we don't master.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
We don't make jokes about Steve McMichael. We leave him
out of the humor.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, no, we'll leave that at the humor.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
But we I asked this question just as the long
suffering Bears fan, Why did it take so long to
get him in?

Speaker 5 (23:41):
That's a tough case. And we had a lot of
really good players to know to separate through, and we
only have five guys. It's hard and so as great
as Devon Haster is and he and and he's a
Hall of Famer strictly as a kick returner, right, but
when when he tried to play other positions, Yeah, he

(24:05):
couldn't do it, right, I mean, they tried to put
him a wide receiver. He wasn't horrendous, but he also
wasn't good. So if I'm if I'm taking a guy
like Reggie Wayne or Tory Holtz or Andre Johnson, I'm
talking about those guys. But they all caught, you know,
a thousand balls, and you know, won championships, you know,

(24:25):
or or we're the most dominant receiver at the position
for a long time. And then you're talking about a
guy who you know, ran five or six plays a game.
It's it's hard to it's hard to do a comparison
on that, but I think that we have. We went
back and forth on it, and I think that eventually

(24:45):
we kind of sided with, Yeah, if we're ever going
to put in a kick returner, this is the kick returner.
And this was the time. And you know, he always
finished pretty high on my my survey. He was always
T five or six, but it wasn't a runaway all
the time, so it wasn't clear that he was absolutely

(25:07):
the guy who should get in. So I'll just put
it that way.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Jason Cole NFL Insider our guests, The Jason Smizer with
Mike Carmon, Live from the tirec dot Com Studios. All right, now,
it's weird because we're talking a lot of real NFL
with you. Now. Normally it's a you know, you talk
about how many frescilas you have, but we got a
lot of big NFL stuff to get to.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
It's kind of more for sis. It's a Thursday night.
If you talk to me on a Friday night, there
there'd be margaritas for silas, There'll be all sorts of
demos or either all sorts of pills.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
If we had Jason Cole on Monday night, it's uh
when you look at the breakdown of the total number
correct on the All twenty two film, But by Friday
night it's Jerry Jones is terrible, Brosday.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
Bring it to me.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
And name. All right, so we got you on a Thursday, which.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Is back right.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I don't care, o.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
God, but trade Lance. I'm going to tell you about
how good trade lances. Yeah, I am, I am. He
can't complete a path, I'll never mind that stuff. We
don't care about whether he can actually complete a pass.
We care that I have to average, because that's what
this is all about.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
That better.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
No, that was No, that was really good.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
You already had you already had Jeff Goldbloom earlier in
this one, and you just let that one go by
the board.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
We do stuff like that every five minutes. I mean,
I can't pick everyone.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
This is the first Jef gold Bloom reference all week.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I'm sure we had got earlier somewhere.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I think we had a Life Finds Away at some point,
and in the last couple of week.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I think we might have had him.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It is the grand master. I mean you don't know.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, that's fair. The Jets motto life finds away.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Hey, so speak all right, So scale of one to ten,
how concerned are you for justin Herbert the plan of
fashion injury that it charges expecting back to the start
of the season.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
Okay, I've never heard of a planter fascia injury. I've
heard of planet fascion is where it's sore, right, and
people either tear it and it heals fairly quickly, or
they wait for the swordness to subside, which takes a
couple of weeks, especially for a guy his age. But

(27:47):
I don't know, like, how do you injure the plantar fascia? Like,
I've never the way they've termed this is a way
that I have never heard before in you know, thirty
plus years, thirty two years of covering the NFL. So
this is odd to me. And so I don't really
know how to how to analyze it and how exactly

(28:10):
did it happen. But if it's just soreness, which happens,
I'm not really all that concerned. If it's something different
than that, like he somehow tweet that and just so
everybody knows what the plants are fascion is it's you know,
it's it's that leathery muscle that's underneath the bottom of
your foot, right it's it's it's a really thick piece
of tissue that I sometimes gets inflamed. You know, Classically

(28:37):
plants are fasci itis. But you know, there's there's no like.
It doesn't get injured that much. It's too hard to injure,
it doesn't stretch that way. So it's really odd the
way they talked about this injury. But then again, this
is Jim Harbaugh's team, and so if you're expecting sanity

(29:00):
in anything that they do, you're gonna be waiting a
long time.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
There's your summary statement Smith right there. He's on Twitter
at Jason Coal sixty two. That is at Jason Goual
sixty two.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Still is he's still living in the r V. No,
I think he moved out. He moved out of the
r V.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
He that, Yeah, he was born out of the r V.
So now now it's it's the first time out in
the world. He's out of the r V.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Was actually the womb, yes, and he was born out
of the r V. He's now moved to a hospital
is like, is that where we've gone to now or.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
No, you go home from the hospital. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
I think I think you go from all this where
we're all not living here for for the entire season. No, no, no,
let's we're moving into a house. Well they moved into
the Bolts. Yeah, yeah, he's moved into the bolt and
now that's.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
In Manhattan Beach or something like that. And good for him.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
He's living with Bolton Man Man, I'm living with Bullet.
That never happened to Boltman.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
You know, that's a great question. Did he did he
make the move north?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
How surprise would you be? I tell you this opening week,
Boltman comes out. We see him for the first time.
The crowd goes crazy. He gets the front. Yeah no, no, no,
he's throwing foam lightning bolts into the audience. Everybody's great.
And then he takes off his head like like Robert
Dowdy Junior is doctor Doom and it's Jim Harbaugh and

(30:27):
he has come out like Bolton.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
That is so that is like that is so perfect. Yeah,
it's so like, that is so Harbor. It is absolutely
so horrible. I mean, I remember the story about him
and Jim Kelly getting into it, and Jim Kelly was
working TV and Kelly came in and ad some some
some question, he ate it and he punched Jim Kelly

(30:50):
in a tree like a Saturday meeting. So out there,
literally so fleeaking out there.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
What's the writing the definitive book on him?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, he's not writing the book now.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Oh me, Well, Andrew reads the guy I want to
write about next. But I think maybe I said this
on the show, but I believe it thoroughly. You could
have Jim Harbaugh write an autobiography and have somebody else
write a biography. They would come out at the same time.

(31:27):
They would be completely different books, completely different narratives, and
they both would be completely accurate.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Is this an autobiography or the biography?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I get a different story. Few for the biography.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
The autobiography are completely different, but totally accurate because you
just don't know what lens Jim Harbaugh is looking at.
Did I tell you the guys to the story about
Harbad Stanford and the real estate deal? I don't know.
Do we have time for this?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
A quick one? God? Sure? A click?

Speaker 5 (32:01):
So Harbaugh, is that this coach at Stanford and gets
in the middle of a really bad real estate deal
back in Michigan where he got left hold in the
bag by his buddies, right, and it was going to
be like, I don't know, twelve million dollars settlement against
him or some point. It was just a crazy amount,
crazy number. Well, the Stanford real estate lawyers come in,
all these all these guys, heavy duty Silicon Valley real

(32:22):
estate guys come in. They settle the whole thing, and
they got Harbor out of the whole thing for like
two hundred thousand bucks. Right, So they decide, Okay, we're
going to go have a celebration dinner. Because Harbaugh's just
signs the papers, it gets out out from underneath it.
You know, he thought he was going to have, like
he was going to lose all his money that he
was making at Stanford. He was going to have to
pay it back all this other stuff. And he's really

(32:44):
really appreciative. And the Stanford guys say to him, hey, look, Jim,
you know we've been hearing rumors about you leaving already.
You know, we didn't do this just for you to
turn around and leave. You know, we put some effort.
We want to stay long he wants to stay long term,
and Harbor and Alter goes, Guys, I really appreciate that,
and you know, i'd like to stay that I'm going

(33:05):
to I like to say that I'm going to stay
a long time. But you know, my dad was kind
of a very good college college coach, and they're like, well, yeah,
he goes, Well, when you're a very good college coach,
he ended up moving around a lot. You know, you
spend two years here, three years here, four years there,

(33:26):
and you bounce around a lot. And I got to say,
as a kid, that worked for me because I would
be in a place and after two or three years
I wore people out.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And there you have it.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Oh some Harbaugh with a little bit of self reflection
of how big a jerkball he actually.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
He's on Twitter at Jason Coles sixty two. Jay cull
is always appreciated. Man, We'll talk to you later. There,
he goes, I haven't hurt people out. Time to go
timed out of a guy. Hey, he wears us out
every single night. It's Steve Desager with what's trending in
the wide world of sports.

Speaker 7 (34:13):
I'll take that as a compliment.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I guess the NFL Hall of Fame Game.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
The exhibition opener went to the Bears twenty one seventeen
over the Texans. Tonight game ended due to bad weather
late in the third quarter. Every other team starts the
preseason schedule next Thursday or later. A federal judge overturned
the verdict against the NFL and the Sunday Ticket TVK,
saying two witness testimonies were flawed. Titans wide receiver DeAndre
Hopkins will miss about four weeks with a knee injury.

(34:40):
Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith is out indefinitely with reported knee
and hip injuries. He's missed two practices straight. Chargers quarterback
Justin Herbert will be in a walking boot for two
weeks after a foot injury. He's expected to be ready
to play in September. Tonight, Joey Bosa left Charger practice
with the trainer. No further word on that. That's running

(35:00):
back Terry Cohen says he's retiring. Orlando will host the
Pro Bowl games again, including flag football.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
In February.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Simone Biles won the Olympic All Around. She was in
third place halfway through Today. Katie Ledecki won her third
career medal. US women's basketball defeated Belgium eighty seven to
seventy four, and Hideki Matsuyama leads the men's golf by
two strokes over defending gold medalist Xander Schaffley of the
US Angels. Outfielder Mike Trout is out for the year

(35:27):
after another meniscus tear. He will have to have a
second knee surgery this year. In Anaheim, the Angels lead
the late game over Colorado four to two in the
top of the ninth inning. The cub scored three runs
in the bottom of the ninth and beat Saint Louis
five to four. Sonny Gray pitched twelve for the Cards
seven innings, nine strikeouts, but gets a no decision. Atlanta
at four to two winner against Miami. Matt Olsen with

(35:50):
his fifth homer in the last six games. Kansas City's
Bobby wit Junior with his twentieth homer of the season
seven to one. Royals won at Detroit, and Cleveland pounded
Baltimore ten to three. Three The Guardians have won seven
of nine. The Yankees, who won five in a row,
were off. The Yanks were a half game back of
first place Baltimore now tied for first in the Al East.
Phillies are off. They've lost four in a row. Washington's

(36:12):
also lost four straight. Dodgers are off in July they
went eleven and thirteen, and the White Sox are off,
losers of seventeen straight.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Back to you, thanks it, Buch, Steve. Actually the White
Sox didn't loosen it. Coming up next, it's not just
Justin Herbert. There's another big quarterback injury in the NFL,
and this guy can lose his job pretty easy. Here's
a hit. It's not Russell Wilson. That's coming up next,
right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Carmon live from the tyrack dot Com Studios. Yes,
Justin Herbert injured out for a while. Hopefully he gets
back for the beginning of the season. Also out indefinitely
with hip and knee injuries. Geno Smith, this story broke today.

(37:11):
He's misspracticed the last couple of days. He came out
today it wasn't working, Mike McDonald saying, you know, we
don't know when. We're hopeful at some point we get
him back, but he's dealing with a knee, he's dealing
with a hip. This ain't nothing because the Seahawks know
this is now a new regime that's come in and
it's inherited Geno Smith, who look, you look for the

(37:35):
guy to come back for me, a lifetime backup to
secure that big deal with Seattle after a big year
two years ago. It was awesome, but you know the
Seahawks want to move on and not that Sam Howell,
who's the backup there is going to be the quarterback
of the future. But this is a guy who, yeah,
twenty one touchdowns, twenty one picks last year, but he
was pretty dynamic for Washington a lot of games. He

(37:57):
threw for a lot of yards. This is a guy
that can come in with the three talented wide receivers
they have it a pretty talented offense, way more talented
than he had in Washington. He can come in and
win this job. Like Gino Smith can lose this job
really easily, either via injury or if he or ineffectiveness.
And in the preseason, if he's out a while and

(38:19):
Sam Howell shows he's got command to the offense, guess what, hey, Gino,
We're gonna ease you back in. We're gonna give Sam
a chance to go. Look, it's a big bridge here
for Seattle. Obviously they're fair what they want to do.
What are they gonna do with quarterback? What's gonna happen
after the draft. It's a bridge year for them, but
they want to stay competitive because they can. They can
kind of be that team. They're a five hundred like team.
But he can lose his job really easily. You think

(38:42):
he's all of a sudden cemented into be quarterback Week
one of the Seattle Seahawks. No way, man, he can
lose this gig before the end of the preseason. Sam
Alll's a guy we watched a lot last year. There
are moments where you saw Flashes fifth round pick in
twenty twenty two. Obviously, with the number two overall pick,
they up to go in a different direction, leaving him

(39:04):
exposed to you know, a move, and he ends up
in Seattle and he's got an opportunity to not only
win the job, I do believe he could potentially be
a guy that becomes a little bit more than a
bridge guy for him, Jason, if you know the coached
up right and with the weapons, as you say, dual
headed monster in the backfield, Like, there's a lot to

(39:25):
like potentially about the offense there in Seattle. So you know,
for Sam Howell, big opportunity to show out. For Gino Smith, yeah,
hell of a story, a hell of a decade plus
in the league. But opportunity knocks for Howell, yeah and plus,
especially since you know they want to replace him. They're
not gonna sit back and go oh no, no, no, Gino,

(39:46):
this is your job. We're being very common no no, no.
This is like, oh, hey we got a guy that
could be better. Hey, that's fine, because Gino could not
start and then come back. He's done that his whole career.
You're not saying, hey, you're a long time starter. You're
hitting the betch It's very difficult mentally, how do you
come back from no no, no, no. Yet you can
very easily make that move, especially when you know they
want to. So this is not a lead pipe since

(40:07):
that Gino's gonna be out there week one. First of all,
who knows when he comes back. But in a situation
where guys aren't gonna play, starters aren't gonna play. Sam
Howell plays a lot in the preseason. He looks good
running with guys at play watch out. Could see a
quarterback to another quarterback change. Before week one they did
a restructuring. He got a lot more money up front

(40:27):
and he's on the books for a huge amount next year.
So see ya Gino exit out about a Fresca exit,
swollen dome, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. Coming up next, we
break down the story of the day from the Olympics.
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