April 30, 2025 • 41 mins
Giannis addresses his postgame confrontation with Tyrese Haliburton's dad. MLB Insider Jon Paul Morsi comes back on the show to talk some baseball. And if the Knicks lose to the Pistons Tom Thibodeau is going to be fired.
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(00:51):
Devils are going a double overtime. Jacob Markstrom has been
insane in this overtime period. Carolina buzz for at fifteen
straight minutes and he made every save. He made a
save on a tip and that I thought for sure
was top shelf, gonna win the game. Nope, he comes
up when it spears it out of the air. He
is unconscious right now. You jumped out of your chair
(01:13):
thinking in game on, that's it, that's it. I said,
that's it we got because I saw again my hockey
gift is as I'm all for my life, my career.
I could see the plays coming. I said, this is it.
And he somehow gets his gets his glove on it
and is able to snag it out of mid air.
Oh what I just said? Wow, Okay, he's got a
cool off and it's good. They're going double overtime. Give
(01:33):
him some time to sit in the dressing room and
cool off right now.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, it's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You know, you watch hockey games, and certainly with my
daughter's soccer run, every once in a while, the parents
on our side will look at me like a nuts
because if the opposing goalie makes a big play, I'll
give him an ad of boy, you know and clapping
and like wow, that was incredible, Like why are you
cheering for the opposite?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
That's mad?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
He's dead, he does that. Just ignore him, just let
him stand there. He likes sport, he's got problems. Why
does he wear purple shorts? Don't don't, don't engage him,
just don't again, good, you know what I need a
new parent, purple shorts, engauge. Don't engage with the PhD
weight loss. They're another falling off my ass. No, just
just you know, he'll start he look like a dope
with a Belton, He'll start saying crazy stuff. Just let
him sit there and say his own thing. Okay, I
(02:20):
mean it's.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
A hundred percent true.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
If you're new to the team, new to the show,
that is gonna happen. Excited utterances and the celebration of
the chaos within the white line. I'm glad you brought
up youth sports because this is where we start this
hour of the show, with the controversy coming off of
the Pacers eliminating the Bucks. Earlier tonight, look, last hour,
we talked about how this should be the final straw.
(02:43):
Giannis should be on a new team. He should ask
for a trade, the Bucks should facilitate it. This should
be his last game in a Bucks uniform. You blow
a seven point lead in the final forty seconds with
turnovers and misfree throws, and then you end with the
embarrassment of getting trolled by Tyres Halliburton's dad. Yeah, the
time in Milwaukee for Giannis has reached its natural conclusion,
(03:05):
and he needs to be very upfront with the Bucks
and say, I'm thirty years old. I got probably four
good years left. Bigger guys member, they don't stay great forever.
The bigger guys do. And Giannis is you know, big
guy two fifty seven footer. Yeah, probably about four more
years of really good prime left for him. He can't
waste it in Milwaukee going yeah, we're gonna fix it. No,
(03:27):
he's tried. He's tried for four years after they won
the title, and they haven't fixed it, and they can't
get out of the first round. It's time for him
to go three straight first round exits the thing that
to remember in it all. And look, if you're deep
into basketball, you understand this. He's been in the league
twelve years. And I think that would surprise a lot
of folks that when he had they had their title run,
(03:51):
it was like, all right, the new kid on the scene.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He's like, No, he was already deep into his career.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Because because of Lebron James on the NBA side, guys
like James Harden and Kawhi Leonard and others that are
thirty five plus, we've started to just expect these long
long AHSS careers, that that's going to be the norm.
So in the NFL, we do we're doing the same
thing with a lot of guys, like because of Brady
(04:19):
and Farv and now Aaron Rodgers. That you're expecting this
long career to keep going. Twelve years a hell of
a long career. That's a long time, yeah, right, especially
as you as you point out his size and the
way he plays. It's a bruising style that like Lebron,
defies everything still contend. He's part of the whole Terminator
(04:41):
series and this is all being filmed for a film
release as a cyborg later on. But for Giannis, you
have to look at your basketball mortality and that you've
been able to direct traffic and to his credit, at
no point has he ever been vilified because you can't
tell me that those were all done in a vacuum.
(05:01):
Yeah right, as a power player, that he's been able
to dictate, dictate some moves and they haven't worked.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
No, Like I said, it's the next dangle.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Everybody tried, and you can't say, boy Jannis has been
has fallen short Tonight thirty twenty and thirteen in the
Game thirty twenty and thirteen and wait for the start.
He's the first guy in a close out game to
in thirteen since George Bikeen in nineteen forty seven. He
was the first player with thirty twenty ten to two
and two in playoff NBA history.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
See there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You gotta get the two and two and then make
sure you get the two and two. The first guy
with thirty points said no assists in the game. I mean,
look y, this is it's just like I said, it's
it's nobody's fault. It's just it's not getting better. You've
had four years since you won the title. This is
where you're at now, and he needs to go. It's
kind of dog's fault. And well, Doc is Doc is
the first one to go. Doc is a guy, say
(05:55):
he's already out. I can help you pack because you know,
I got all kinds of freelon. It's not KLICKSVA. But
we'll have time for Doc in a minute, because now
we have to get to the postgame drama, which if
this is Janni's last game, okay, like we said, this
is this, this is the final straw. Okay, we blow
a seven point lead in the final forty seconds and
then he gets trolled by Tyre's Halliburton's dad. We brought
(06:18):
you this story a few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Halliburton.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's the game winning shot. The final seventy five footer
is chucked up by the Bucks. It doesn't go. There's
mayhem on the court. Everybody's celebrating, and Tyre's Halliburton's dad,
Ben comes on the court with a big jersey towel
and goes up, doesn't go to celebrate with his kid,
goes to stand in front of Jannis and shaking the
towel at him and trolling him. Which is such a
(06:42):
punk move, man, that's such a punk move. And Haliburton said,
a few minutes ago, Hey, I told my dad. I
think my dad just got excited. No, getting excited would
be I ran on the court to come hug you
while you were standing on the scorer's table. This was
I'm coming right out to stand in front of Yannis, which,
come on, man, what a punk move that is? Uh
So howl burtn Tod. At least he said, I disagree
with my dad, and he takes the honest aside, which
(07:03):
is a really good thing. So I give Tyre's Halliburton
credit for that, but he almost started like you were
getting into a cadence where you're gonna go full Chrispin
and stop pointing that gun in my dad. But uh,
that's a little bit of of of well, let's say,
not quite enough for Jannis, who was not happy with
what went on as he met the media moments ago
(07:26):
following the game, where he talked about the loss and
and and Tyre's Halliburton's head get in his face after
the game.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I believe like being humbled in victory. That's how way
I am.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Now.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
There can be a lot of people out there that
are like, no, when you when you win the game,
it's it's a green light for you to be disrespectful
towards somebody else. I disagree. I've won the championship. They
have it okay, and that doesn't say anything minimize that effort,
But losing the game, emotions run high. Having a fan
(07:58):
which at the moment I thought he was fun, but
then as it was Titi's son, which I love Titus
I think is a great competitor, he was his dad
sort of coming in the floor and showing me his
son not two with his face. This is what we do,
This is what we do this, f we do this.
I feel like that's very very disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's a great statement. That's a great statement. Like I thought,
I thought it was a fan. I know, I find it. Yeah,
I won a title they have and so he gets
a little bit of a well so look, you know,
Yannis for the most part, outside of the Tide one, Look,
he gets into with the Pacers a lot, right, because
the Pacers was the team with the ball right when
they took his ball.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah there, right, So.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
We know there's a there's a bit of a history
with them. But outside of that, we went looking for
the basketball. Pities, you know, where's the basketball I scored
my points with? Outside of that, when stuff like this
comes up, Yannis handles himself with a lot of class
and I you know, especially in a situation like this
where you're talking about a player's dad running on the
court controlling, Jannis finds a way to kind of calm
(09:04):
everybody down and be calm himself and say very distinctive
things and get his point across. It's not ranting, it's
not my mind is going a thousand miles an hour.
This is hey, you know, there's about you know, being
able to win and win with class. And this is
not guys saying stuff in the handshake line. This is
not guys waving goodbye. This is someone's dad who comes
(09:24):
on the court and he says, hey, yeah, win with class,
win with class. I know what it's all about. And
he finds a way to just cut through in a
very calm way and say, look, this was very disrespectful.
And who listens to what he just said and disagrees
with him? Nobody. He's got that, He's got that way
of speaking that makes you just want to agree with
what he says, which is a real skill.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I'm still working on that. But he's got that way
to say, hey, is anybody, Is anybody disagree with what
I'm saying? And really I can't find a way to
disagree with him.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I mean the follow up is why was his hand
up around Mathin's neck and Jake line to where that
dusts up a bit, but certainly here, yeah, the win
with class, you know, honor the fight, the battle that
you just had. I mean, we always see and celebrate
it in hockey at the end of playoff series, the
(10:14):
handshake line, no matter how bad the blood was and
how content, contentious. Everything was that, you know, the sportsmanship
prevails here, family members get involved. We talked about it
last last night with the Belichick story and his girlfriend,
and we've gone all through Shador Sanders. How much of
(10:36):
the invisible hand of Dion Sanders was part of the
decision process. I still come back to, no team got
desperate enough for a quarterback. So good job on the
war rooms there for finally not falling into I think
that's the other reason that Shador was so high, right,
it was the desperation. But here it's family getting involved
and escalating things.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
That I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I think everybody would have just gone on to their celebrations,
shake your hands, and move on. But then you've got
him running off the baseline. I've watched this probably fifty times,
and I'm still shaking my head, going, how does he
get to that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
You know what? My favorite part of it, what's that buddy?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
If it was? Yeah, when he put a Laker's hat on,
when he walked, he's wearing a Lakers sweater. They take
him out like when they take Kareem out an airplane
and he's wearing his Lakers jersey under his popet. I
mean he always got to be ready, right, it's like
your superhero costume.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But Yatis's point the.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Reveal like he was like like he's a kid announcing
where he's going to go to college. I just want
to say, and he puts Lakers hat on. I love
la to see it.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Peace out.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That would be an interesting cap to the night, no
question about it was really uh yeah, but it would
have taken Tyrese Haliburton's dad off the hook. I wait,
I'm announcing I'm leaving and forcing my hand. But it's
just that that curiosity of where the line goes. In
competition at any level, and certainly from the professional side,
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not often do you have the It's not quite a
finger wagging moment, but it's close of the the superstar
going all right, all right, we're done.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So what I still have a scoreboard, I still have
one more title.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's a nice little's all like, straight line, straight line.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Oh, by the way, I have a title, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
But he's just got that weight no matter what he says,
even if it's a little bit of yeah, I know
you're right, jani Yan, you are right. No, you're right, man,
you're right, You're right. You're right, you're But that's the thing, right,
I don't know what was said, you know, from the
Pacers themselves, but you know, guy's dad can't control that
guy's dad, right, and then he's gonna act the fool.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He's gonna act the full Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
No, look, and he even said that he let's have
great respect for Tyree. So they didn't say it was Tyree.
It's just because you're you're you're part of team. You're
part of Pacers Nation, right, you're part of the team.
You ran on the court after the game, and you're
you're a player's dad, so you're pretty much you're you're
part to that team, and you ran on the court
to get in my face like that. Alsombarrassed. Bad job
by security. Everybody was on the court. What do you
(13:08):
expect him to do?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Everybody was on the court. Got at least pretend that you're,
you know, trying to protect this house. There's several hundred
million dollars worth of athletes mulling about, and this guy's
able to run out with his giant towel with it
without being checked at all. Fox Sports Radio The Jason
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Guess what I think if they lose. What happened tonight
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right after we get off the air. Well last hour,
we were joined from Madison Square Garden by John Paul Morosi,
MLB network insider who took in the Pistons three point
victory over the Knicks, and we're gonna get into the
Tom Thibodeau portion of this conversation in a little bit,
because I told you before the series, if the Knicks
(16:43):
losing the first round, he's gonna get fired. And after
tonight and what happened at the end of the game,
absolutely that's gonna happen. He had a good run. But
because the Pistons won. John Paul Morosi said, Hey, I'll
still stick around and talk baseball with you guys like
I normally do so. From somewhere outside of Madison Square,
guard right now, maybe getting a full offel, maybe getting
(17:05):
sauceed pepper sandwich.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Maybe getting chased down the hallway by that guy from earlier.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Maybe at Blimpy's, maybe being Blimpys, maybe being running from
a security guard who wanted him to leave the suite
where he was doing the interview from.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah caricature at Sardi's. I mean, you know, you just
don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It is MLB Network in sign or extraordinary John Palmer ROSSI,
John Paul, what's happening again, buddy?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I'm doing great, guys, Yes, indeed, I am. I am
back at the hotel.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I am I am.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
In my my Detroit Pistons PJS, and I'm I'm all.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Set for a long spring nap here getting ready for
baseball tomorrow. But man, what a what a great night,
what a great time of year, and and.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
My goodness, one one loss of the Pistons and you're
already talking about letting go of the coach.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Jason.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
This is this is a pretty pretty dire circumstance for
a team that a few hours ago had a comfortable
three to one lead.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh no, no, this was this was before the this
is before the series. I said, if they lose this
first round, he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Be Yeah, it's about a month ago that it began.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And then not get and then not get it. You know,
when two of your best players you leave him on
the bench because you don't want to call a time out.
But we'll get to that. So we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Again. That was That was a dominant theme of of
my friends that I was walking out with from of
the building. And the people who were not trying to
throw me out, that's the people that were talking to
me wanted to try to tell me.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
So we had a nice and had a nice dialogue
about that.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
But yes, I do know there was a there was
a great amount of Major League baseball going on right now,
and that is of course my focus once again. So
it's a Morosi doubleheader, which I'm really appreciated.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, joining us from the land of the team
with the best record in baseball and also the Yankees.
That's how I'm gonna end title and also the Yankees,
and also the end. But I do give the yanked
John Paul. That's the thing about the Yankees, right they
opened the game with back to back to back home
runs and and and the big deal not about the
torpedo bats everything else. But I'm look at the Yankees
and I feel like they're really not playing that well.
(19:04):
Like you think it was a boy. The Yankees really
there struggling in their strugg and then you look and
go boy, but but you know, there they are in
first place and it doesn't feel like they're playing all
that well, which is bad news for the rest of
Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It is, And I keep waiting for the Red Sox
to catch fire a little bit. And again it's still early,
and the Red Sox might because there are parts of
the Red Sox roster that I.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Like better than the Yankees roster.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
But the Yankees, even.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Without Juan Soti.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You think about what Ben Rice has been for them,
already this season and the impact that he's made, and
it's certainly a bunch of adjustments he's made since last season.
Aaron Judge is elite of the elite. They win fifteen
to three tonight against the Orioles, who.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Are in really bad shape right now.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I mean, my goodness, but Aaron Judges Batten four twelve.
And when you've got an elite player who is at
his absolute peak, and that is the scary thing for
the American League is that this not the sixty two
homer season. Judge might be the best version of Aaron
Judge ever, and that is really scary. And Ben Rice
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tonight his ops is darned near a thousand. Paul Goldschmid
has been revived by playing in New York, and even
Bellinger hasn't gotten going yet. Jazz Chisholms still batting under
two hundred. But this is still again we're talking about
the NBA a lot right now, But this is when
when you've got your superstars who are playing like superstars.
Maybe you got two or three players at their peak,
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and that can sometimes be enough to carry you to
a championship. And yes, the rotation has been a little
bit up and down. But tonight rodn really good six
innings to earn. So I like a lot of what
we're seeing.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Right now from the New York Yankees.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You mentioned the Orioles JP.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Did we crown the young core too early or can
they still get off the mat here?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Well, that's a really good question. And Mike, here's what
I think.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
This is the cautionary tale for all the gms who
want to be very incremental in the way they build
their roster and make their moves. I would say this
in baseball, the worst thing isn't being bad, it's missing
your window and not maximizing it. In my opinion, really,
(21:22):
I would almost rather. I would almost rather be a mediocre,
the below average team that never contends seriously. Then be
the team that's blessed with all these great picks and
you should win a championship and you never really go
all in. And last year they did not go all
into the deadline. Tarik Skobel was there waiting for.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Them to acquire if they've made the right offer.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
They never made the right offer, and now they're staring
at this group of prospects that is good but not
difference making, and they're pitching is completely in.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Tatters, and that's where they're at.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Cedric malls up to a great stuf, but unfortunately for them,
it might be Mullin's off to a great start and
then they can train them.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
At the deadline.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Right, That's how bad it is, Mike, And again, I
always am a little bit reluctant to make too many
sweeping statements this early in the season. However, However, in
all my years of cover in baseball, there's one thing
I've learned for sure, and that is the American League
East is not a division that you can win by
(22:25):
going eleven and eighteen to start the year. It's just
it's darn near impossible to come back. Could you do
it theoretically, sure, but it's just it's not a way
to win the division, especially not when you're pitching. Is
this bad and the Baltimore Orioles, my friends, I fear
for our friends in Maryland.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
They may have missed their opportunity.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well. From the top of Major League Baseball, which is
the Mets and the Yankees, who are the second best
team in New York John Paul, we watched last year
the Chicago White Sox have the all time worst season
that we've seen in baseball. We chronicle it all year
and said, wow, that's a once in a lifetime thing
that we know what, We're never going to see that again.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Just trying to mock me along the way there, Chase Smith.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Except here are the Rockies with a combination of not
being good and also in the best division in baseball,
John Paul four and twenty five. Right now they are
on pace to shatter the White Sox record for losses
in a season. Is this something we're going to be following?
Will the Rockies get it right? What do you think
about where we're at right now?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I believe the kids on social media would say, hold
by Colorado, ipa please, because the Rockies, the Rockies are
about to supersede what we saw from the White Sox
a year ago. Guys, it's not good and this is
(23:45):
the residue of the Rockies. And again they've never not
since the twenty eighteen team that made the playoffs and
the least had a chance to make a little bit
of a run, they've never they've never really built on that.
They traded away Nolan Arnado, they Trever Story left, and
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Ryan McMahon is still there. But they're still not pitching
and their bullpen isn't much to write home about. Uh,
this is a fairly anonymous team. That is that is
that has a chance to be sadly historically bad.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
And guys, they they brought in Clint.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Hurdle as the hitting coach hasn't helped. Bud Black is
a really good baseball man, the manager, but this has
got to be wearing on him. They just the Chris
Buying Bryant contract was has not worked out at all.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
He's been hurt and effective. It's there's not.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
A lot to really say in a positive way about
this team.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
And the other thing about it.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Is you have picked the worst year in that division
to be historically bad. I realize the schedule is more
balanced now, so it's not going to be quite like
every time they wake up they're gonna be facing the
Dodgers of Potreys.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
But they're gonna tough to play them a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And my goodness, the Dvacs are a good team. The
Giants are a good team.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
The NL right now is this really good?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And and this might be the Rockies might be the
the mirror image of all the greatness in the National
League Right now, there's the Rockies on the other side
of that mirror, and my goodness that that face looking
back at them is not not too appealing right now, guys,
they're looking kind of stressed out.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
And it's only April.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Jason Smith show My guy, John Baulbarosi a double dip
with JP today at John Morosi, leave off the h
because mom said, so j O N M O R
O s I. MLB Network covers the NHL with us.
I mean he's all over the place and then he
gave you a live report from the garden. I mean
all of that and then some every week with us
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here on the show.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So can I get my nerd question?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You know, take it?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I mean the money he's got on.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
The field here.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I'm in a great move because it doesn't the time tonight, guys.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
This is okay, good wow, He's like Deon Sim's I
got time for this today, all right? So so let
me let me ask the money question. Then with the Rockies,
the White Sox, the Marlins, some of the like, where
are we going to get a legitimate floor that forces
some expenditure of cash.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Well, this is the This is a big question.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And and we'll see, we'll see what comes out of
the next DBA. I think that it's it's too early
to say anything for sure about if the next deal
is going to have a cap or not. We're probably
a couple of years away from learning that information. If
it's going to be sometime after the New year in.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Twenty twenty seven. But that's what it's going to take.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
The only way that this gets fixed is if there's
a cap and the floor, and that's and that's the
only thing that will that will allow or that will
force the smaller market teams.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
And I would I would put the pirates.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
In that same converse, the athletics and the same conversation.
But if clearly we have been into the revenue sharing
world now for more than two decades, okay we are
two decades on with this being the idea and the
fundamental underpinning of the game and revenue sharing itself, we
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have to be able to say directly, after two decades
worth of evidence, the revenue sharing enough is not going
to do it. It's just it's not by itself enough
to compel the smaller market teams to spend closer to
the mets.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Now, no one's expecting everybody.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
To spend like Steve Cohen, that's not that's not that's
not what's happening here. The idea is that that you
should spend something close to what your revenues that you
should and that you should be in a normal competitive
band with everybody else.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
And this is now where.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
And this is the complexity of the next negotiation, which
I still think is a chance to work out well
for the game. I really believe that there's enough smart
people in the sport that care about the game that
I think can arrive at something at the common sense solution.
But you've got the uber rich owners, you've got the
middle tier owners, you've got the small market owners, and
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then you've got the players. If this becomes like a
like a three three way royal rumble or a four
party royal rumble, then it's going to get a little icy.
The guy with the toughest job here is going to
be Rob Manford. To find a way to unify the
Mets and the Yankees and the Dodgers with the Marlins, Pirates,
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Rockies and an idea with an idea of what's best
for the game, and that the financial expenditures should represent
what is best for the game, and guys it's way
too early to know how that's all going to land,
other than to say it's a big question. And the
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fans and the small markets that are saying that my
team is not spending and my team doesn't have a
chance to compete with the Dodgers, it's really hard for
me to take that argument and find a clever or
thorough or fair way of arguing the counterpoint, because it's
just it's not the present reality of the game.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi,
MLB Network insider John Paul Morosi joining us from the
land of the best team in baseball. And also the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Wow, wait in la as always money.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Oh we got five more months of these conversations, my friends.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
All right, see you man, We'll talk to you after
makes sense, So you joy the night, buddy. Here goes
John Paul Morosi. Look, I'm not saying it's not true
best team in baseball. And also the Yankees. Yeah, that's nine,
that's it. And also the Yankees and hit the over
not even the halfway home. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Time
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Now to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports, And I like to think of tonight for
me as a glass hat more more than half full night,
more than half pause. The Mets won best team in baseball. Okay,
the Knicks lost, But did I just get another really
big win? Queup brath Bonanza. Steve de Seger has more
(30:16):
on that game and everything else trending in the wide world.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
What was the last point of yours this third? We
know the Knicks, we know the Mets.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
When you get to it, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Okay, you should know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I've known you for a long time. Should know who
my hockey team is.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Oh, I tell you, I honestly thought you said Dodgers,
And I said, why would he be talking.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
About Okay, oh boy, yeah, overtime Dodgers in overtime, yes,
or two of it, Dodgers in double overtime.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
That's not gonna happen with the Marlins, because you know,
the two worst pitching staffs in baseball are the Orioles
and the Marlins. So the Orioles lost at home fifteen
to three to the Yankees this evening. It was twelve
nothing Yanks in the fifth, and the Marlins are down
seven to one at Dodger Stadium, and it's only top
of the fifth, and.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
This game's going to go till midnight West Coast time.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
No, I have confidence in the new rules. In fact,
I adore the new rules on an evening such as
this that even a lopsided game that might wind up
eleven to three type is still going to be over
in roughly three hours.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, all right, we'll see.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Unlike the Cleveland game, which had the three hour rain
delay and is still going as we approach midnight. In Ohio,
Guardians have just walked it off, just won it two
to one against the Twins. That looks like a walk
off Homer. You know they had a guy who wasn't
their closer recently, Emmanuel Clause pitch the top of the
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ninth in a tie game. They have just home it
in the bottom of the ninth to beat the Twins.
That is a two to one final. As for the
other games in progress I mentioned, Dodgers up, Mariners lead
five to one over the Angels bottom of the seventh,
and the Padres are holding on against the Giants five
to four in the bottom of the seventh. Texas fifteen
to two of the a's Jacob de Grom the winner
(32:01):
with six scoreless innings seven strikeouts. Atlanta won eight two
at Colorado. The Rockies have lost eight in a row.
They are four and twenty five this year. Tonight's losing
pitcher Herman Marquez, zero to five with an ERA of
nine point eight. Two wins for Milwaukee and Houston. The
Mets are twenty one and nine. After beating Arizona, it
was eight to nothing in the fourth inning, eight three
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the final the win to David Peterson with five innings
one run allowed victories on the road for Boston and
Kansas City Cubs as well. Philadelphia, with two runs bottom
of the ninth beat Washington seven to six. They got
the two runs on a sackfly and a wild pitch
Saint Louis had since.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I was really upset about that because the Mets could
have really had another game in their magic number column.
But the Phillies pull off the win.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
It was such a great start from Zach Wheeler, and
then they gag it in the ninth inning the pen
and an air by Trey Turner and still win it
in the bottom of the ninth. Cincinnati's home game against
Saint Louis was rained out they'll play a doubleheader tomorrow.
Reds have won five in a row. Yes in the
NHL playoffs. Carolina in double overtime beat New Jersey five
to four. That's a four games to one win in
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that first round series. Deubles are out and the Hurricanes
were trailing three nothing tonight after the first period at Vegas.
It's still Golden Knights two to one over Minnesota, end
of two in the second period. In LA, Kings and
Oilers tied at one, and Ottawa stays alive, winning four
nothing at Toronto. That was a one nothing game in
the third. Vancouver coach Rick Tocket stepped down the forty
(33:29):
nine Ers gave tight end George Kittle a four year extension.
In the late NBA game, Clippers are shooting over fifty
percent still, but they've already allowed seventy two points at Denver.
They just started the third quarter. Now gets seventy two
to fifty nine over the Clips this first round series
even at two. Detroit won at New York one o six,
one oh three. Indiana took care of Milwaukee in Game
(33:51):
five in overtime comeback one nineteen one eighteen, and Boston
took care of Orlando eliminated the Magic in a game
five one.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Twenty to eighty nine. Celtics outscored him in the third
quarter by twenty three.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon Live from the Tirec dot Com
Studios coming up next. Yes, the Pistons stay alive by
beating the Knicks one oh six to one oh three.
I told you before the playoffs if the Knicks losing
the first round to the Piston my Bowl prediction, Tims
is going to be out after what happened at the
end of the game tonight and his explanation following it. Yeah,
(34:27):
that's really gonna happen if they blow this series to
the Pistons. We'll get into that controversy next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (34:43):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon and Uh, if you remember a few weeks ago,
Big Bowl prediction for the NBA Playoffs, I said, if
the Knicks lose in the first round to the Pistons
or really whoever. But if they lose in the first round,
Tims is gonna get fired. Yeah wait, I posited that
(35:03):
to Rick Buker before the playoffs, right, he says, you know,
I haven't heard anything that Timms is in trouble, but yeah,
I could see it after tonight. You can really see
it because the end of the game, the Knicks lose
one oh six to one oh three to the Pistons,
and he made a mistake that is absolutely unforgivable. Jalen
Brunston and Josh Hard are out of the game and
(35:27):
he wanted them to get back in the game. With
about three minutes left to go, a little less than
three minutes, they go to the scorer's table. Now the
Knicks have one time out left, right, Tim's use all
the timeouts as a close game, they have one time
out left. He doesn't use it until there's twenty seven
seconds left. The Pistons have the lead still the Knicks
hadn't able to cut into it, and then Brunson and
(35:48):
Hart go in the game. Okay, so your best play
forget about Josh Hart. Josh Hart, I mean should be
on the court. He makes so many clutch plays. But
your best player, your best player, you're okay with sitting
on that who makes all the plays in the final
three minutes of the week. Watch team, Watch that team
stand around when he's not available.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I mean he makes multiple times.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Brunson is, yes, as good as Karl Anthony Towns is,
gret Jalen Brunson is the engine of this team. And
Tom Thibodeau didn't want to call a time out to
get him back in the game. Now, I get in
the beginning you think there's a flow, there's gonna be
some kind of stoppage, and there wasn't. After a certain
amount of time, you have to say, okay, time and
I gotta get I gotta get Jalen Brunson back. Well,
that's the amazing thing, right, got go for three minutes
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left on the clock.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I contested NBA playoff game. There's not any sequence whereby
you had the automatic all right time to check in
you have. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You have your backup guards in the game, and it's
not like they were playing great and you were eating
into the Pistons lead. You put your your your two
most clutch players, right, and Cat's pretty clutch, But it
doesn't matter because Jalen Brunson is the best player on
the next He's one of the top players in the league.
And he sits on the bench for two and a
half of the final three minutes because Tis didn't want
(37:04):
to call a timeout. Sorry, you use your timeouts, So
I'm sorry it went that way. You got to get
your best player in the bleeping game. Men, what the
hell are you doing? Like, really, this is this is
you know, we always used to say this is a
fireable offense, This is a fireable offense. This now takes
my Bowl prediction and amps it up that if they
wind up blowing this lead and losing to the Pistons,
TIBs will get fired. It'll because of this mistake will
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be the one that put everybody over the top. How
do you not get your best player in the game.
I mean, at some point you have to say, okay,
time out. You can let the clock go a little bit.
I understand, Hey, we're gonna get this going. I want
to save the time out. But after thirty seconds forty
five seconds, when there's a you know, you're getting down
about the two minute markets. Okay, let's let's get these
guys in the game. Let let's you know, these guys
(37:45):
got to get in the game here, like I can't
get we can't, I mean even down to a minute
and they still know we're gonna save the timeout. Dude
in a minute, get him in the bleeping game, man.
And then I had to listen to Tibbs's explanation as
to why he did and put them in the game.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And here it is, and this makes it even worse.
Play it, Frostbury, and.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You had Jalen and Josh there on the scores table
waiting to check it. Get in. What was the thought
process of not calling the timeout or not getting them
back in the game as that lead kind.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Of went up.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Just where we were with our timeouts. And then he
said coaches decision, Yeah, and that was a very succinct dance.
Yeah no, And he said there's a lot that goes
into it. And I feel like that part and a
few good men when Demi Moore objects and then she
strenuously acts, I object overruled. No, we strenuously object. Oh
(38:36):
if you strenuously objected, I have to change mind. Like
he said, there's a lot that goes into the decision,
and I want to say, oh, there's a lot that
goes into the decision. Wait, you're the head coach, what
do you mean there's a lot. He has a lot
that goes into the decision. But this is what you
get paid for. This is what you get paid to do,
is to get your best player into the game in
the final two plus minutes. Okay, the JJ Reddick, as
(38:58):
much as he hates me, stands, ah, he's not gonna
call time out. He's gonna he's gonna make sure Lebron
and Luca get back in the game if they're checked
out of the game with three minutes left to go.
Of even Doc Rivers as bad as he is, he
knows I can't have Giannas sitting on the bench the
final two and a half minutes of the game. I
gotta get him back in. Yeah, I'll lose my final
time out. Okay, that's on me. But he took a
(39:18):
bad situation, which is one time out left, and made
it worse by not getting his best player back in
the game for the final three minutes. Well, on the
plus side, I mean he didn't take it to the
locker room with him. He did eventually use that timeout. Yeah,
with twenty seven seconds and the look on Brunson's face
when he find when he get it getting up off
the off the ground, like dude, come on, man, what
(39:40):
the hell are you doing?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
And now you've got quotes starting to come out of
the locker room bridges and others holding court with the
media and more or less just saying, yeah, I don't
know what the hell we were doing. Uh, there's my
succinct way of encapsulating their larger thoughts. But yeah, with
about three three h five or whatever it was, they're
at sitting at the scores to waiting, waiting, plenty of opportunities,
(40:03):
plenty of possessions, and then by time you come in
it's too late. It becomes that frantic all right, we've
got to and look they almost got the miracle of
miracles right when you start getting into the free throw game.
And it's something we talked about earlier. Not exactly a
clinic from that side of things from either squad, but
a terrible game for both Brunson and for Cat. I
(40:25):
mean I would have had more respective Tims would have said, yeah,
Jalen was having a bad game.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I didn't feel the push to get him back in.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
He does the rick Patino. Yeah, that's why I took
him out of the game. You know what I mean,
just just.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Run with it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
At that point, you can't saving a timeout, Collex it.
How about a Fresca exit, Swollen don't like me. I'm
not gonna put my best player back in the game
because a timeout is worth more.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Don't you get like nine hundred timeouts in the NBA anyway?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Come on, man, coming up next. If this was the
only NBA controversy tonight, we'd have a lot, But oh
we got a whole other one to get into as well.
That's straight ahead, Jason, I'm like Fox.
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(00:51):
Devils are going a double overtime. Jacob Markstrom has been
insane in this overtime period. Carolina buzz for at fifteen
straight minutes and he made every save. He made a
save on a tip and that I thought for sure
was top shelf, gonna win the game. Nope, he comes
up when it spears it out of the air. He
is unconscious right now. You jumped out of your chair
(01:13):
thinking in game on, that's it, that's it. I said,
that's it we got because I saw again my hockey
gift is as I'm all for my life, my career.
I could see the plays coming. I said, this is it.
And he somehow gets his gets his glove on it
and is able to snag it out of mid air.
Oh what I just said? Wow, Okay, he's got a
cool off and it's good. They're going double overtime. Give
(01:33):
him some time to sit in the dressing room and
cool off right now.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, it's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You know, you watch hockey games, and certainly with my
daughter's soccer run, every once in a while, the parents
on our side will look at me like a nuts
because if the opposing goalie makes a big play, I'll
give him an ad of boy, you know and clapping
and like wow, that was incredible, Like why are you
cheering for the opposite?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
That's mad?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
He's dead, he does that. Just ignore him, just let
him stand there. He likes sport, he's got problems. Why
does he wear purple shorts? Don't don't, don't engage him,
just don't again, good, you know what I need a
new parent, purple shorts, engauge. Don't engage with the PhD
weight loss. They're another falling off my ass. No, just
just you know, he'll start he look like a dope
with a Belton, He'll start saying crazy stuff. Just let
him sit there and say his own thing. Okay, I
(02:20):
mean it's.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
A hundred percent true.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
If you're new to the team, new to the show,
that is gonna happen. Excited utterances and the celebration of
the chaos within the white line. I'm glad you brought
up youth sports because this is where we start this
hour of the show, with the controversy coming off of
the Pacers eliminating the Bucks. Earlier tonight, look, last hour,
we talked about how this should be the final straw.
(02:43):
Giannis should be on a new team. He should ask
for a trade, the Bucks should facilitate it. This should
be his last game in a Bucks uniform. You blow
a seven point lead in the final forty seconds with
turnovers and misfree throws, and then you end with the
embarrassment of getting trolled by Tyres Halliburton's dad. Yeah, the
time in Milwaukee for Giannis has reached its natural conclusion,
(03:05):
and he needs to be very upfront with the Bucks
and say, I'm thirty years old. I got probably four
good years left. Bigger guys member, they don't stay great forever.
The bigger guys do. And Giannis is you know, big
guy two fifty seven footer. Yeah, probably about four more
years of really good prime left for him. He can't
waste it in Milwaukee going yeah, we're gonna fix it. No,
(03:27):
he's tried. He's tried for four years after they won
the title, and they haven't fixed it, and they can't
get out of the first round. It's time for him
to go three straight first round exits the thing that
to remember in it all. And look, if you're deep
into basketball, you understand this. He's been in the league
twelve years. And I think that would surprise a lot
of folks that when he had they had their title run,
(03:51):
it was like, all right, the new kid on the scene.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He's like, No, he was already deep into his career.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Because because of Lebron James on the NBA side, guys
like James Harden and Kawhi Leonard and others that are
thirty five plus, we've started to just expect these long
long AHSS careers, that that's going to be the norm.
So in the NFL, we do we're doing the same
thing with a lot of guys, like because of Brady
(04:19):
and Farv and now Aaron Rodgers. That you're expecting this
long career to keep going. Twelve years a hell of
a long career. That's a long time, yeah, right, especially
as you as you point out his size and the
way he plays. It's a bruising style that like Lebron,
defies everything still contend. He's part of the whole Terminator
(04:41):
series and this is all being filmed for a film
release as a cyborg later on. But for Giannis, you
have to look at your basketball mortality and that you've
been able to direct traffic and to his credit, at
no point has he ever been vilified because you can't
tell me that those were all done in a vacuum.
(05:01):
Yeah right, as a power player, that he's been able
to dictate, dictate some moves and they haven't worked.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
No, Like I said, it's the next dangle.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Everybody tried, and you can't say, boy Jannis has been
has fallen short Tonight thirty twenty and thirteen in the
Game thirty twenty and thirteen and wait for the start.
He's the first guy in a close out game to
in thirteen since George Bikeen in nineteen forty seven. He
was the first player with thirty twenty ten to two
and two in playoff NBA history.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
See there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You gotta get the two and two and then make
sure you get the two and two. The first guy
with thirty points said no assists in the game. I mean,
look y, this is it's just like I said, it's
it's nobody's fault. It's just it's not getting better. You've
had four years since you won the title. This is
where you're at now, and he needs to go. It's
kind of dog's fault. And well, Doc is Doc is
the first one to go. Doc is a guy, say
(05:55):
he's already out. I can help you pack because you know,
I got all kinds of freelon. It's not KLICKSVA. But
we'll have time for Doc in a minute, because now
we have to get to the postgame drama, which if
this is Janni's last game, okay, like we said, this
is this, this is the final straw. Okay, we blow
a seven point lead in the final forty seconds and
then he gets trolled by Tyre's Halliburton's dad. We brought
(06:18):
you this story a few minutes ago.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Halliburton.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's the game winning shot. The final seventy five footer
is chucked up by the Bucks. It doesn't go. There's
mayhem on the court. Everybody's celebrating, and Tyre's Halliburton's dad,
Ben comes on the court with a big jersey towel
and goes up, doesn't go to celebrate with his kid,
goes to stand in front of Jannis and shaking the
towel at him and trolling him. Which is such a
(06:42):
punk move, man, that's such a punk move. And Haliburton said,
a few minutes ago, Hey, I told my dad. I
think my dad just got excited. No, getting excited would
be I ran on the court to come hug you
while you were standing on the scorer's table. This was
I'm coming right out to stand in front of Yannis, which,
come on, man, what a punk move that is? Uh
So howl burtn Tod. At least he said, I disagree
with my dad, and he takes the honest aside, which
(07:03):
is a really good thing. So I give Tyre's Halliburton
credit for that, but he almost started like you were
getting into a cadence where you're gonna go full Chrispin
and stop pointing that gun in my dad. But uh,
that's a little bit of of of well, let's say,
not quite enough for Jannis, who was not happy with
what went on as he met the media moments ago
(07:26):
following the game, where he talked about the loss and
and and Tyre's Halliburton's head get in his face after
the game.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I believe like being humbled in victory. That's how way
I am.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Now.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
There can be a lot of people out there that
are like, no, when you when you win the game,
it's it's a green light for you to be disrespectful
towards somebody else. I disagree. I've won the championship. They
have it okay, and that doesn't say anything minimize that effort,
But losing the game, emotions run high. Having a fan
(07:58):
which at the moment I thought he was fun, but
then as it was Titi's son, which I love Titus
I think is a great competitor, he was his dad
sort of coming in the floor and showing me his
son not two with his face. This is what we do,
This is what we do this, f we do this.
I feel like that's very very disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's a great statement. That's a great statement. Like I thought,
I thought it was a fan. I know, I find it. Yeah,
I won a title they have and so he gets
a little bit of a well so look, you know,
Yannis for the most part, outside of the Tide one, Look,
he gets into with the Pacers a lot, right, because
the Pacers was the team with the ball right when
they took his ball.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah there, right, So.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
We know there's a there's a bit of a history
with them. But outside of that, we went looking for
the basketball. Pities, you know, where's the basketball I scored
my points with? Outside of that, when stuff like this
comes up, Yannis handles himself with a lot of class
and I you know, especially in a situation like this
where you're talking about a player's dad running on the
court controlling, Jannis finds a way to kind of calm
(09:04):
everybody down and be calm himself and say very distinctive
things and get his point across. It's not ranting, it's
not my mind is going a thousand miles an hour.
This is hey, you know, there's about you know, being
able to win and win with class. And this is
not guys saying stuff in the handshake line. This is
not guys waving goodbye. This is someone's dad who comes
(09:24):
on the court and he says, hey, yeah, win with class,
win with class. I know what it's all about. And
he finds a way to just cut through in a
very calm way and say, look, this was very disrespectful.
And who listens to what he just said and disagrees
with him? Nobody. He's got that, He's got that way
of speaking that makes you just want to agree with
what he says, which is a real skill.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I'm still working on that. But he's got that way
to say, hey, is anybody, Is anybody disagree with what
I'm saying? And really I can't find a way to
disagree with him.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I mean the follow up is why was his hand
up around Mathin's neck and Jake line to where that
dusts up a bit, but certainly here, yeah, the win
with class, you know, honor the fight, the battle that
you just had. I mean, we always see and celebrate
it in hockey at the end of playoff series, the
(10:14):
handshake line, no matter how bad the blood was and
how content, contentious. Everything was that, you know, the sportsmanship
prevails here, family members get involved. We talked about it
last last night with the Belichick story and his girlfriend,
and we've gone all through Shador Sanders. How much of
(10:36):
the invisible hand of Dion Sanders was part of the
decision process. I still come back to, no team got
desperate enough for a quarterback. So good job on the
war rooms there for finally not falling into I think
that's the other reason that Shador was so high, right,
it was the desperation. But here it's family getting involved
and escalating things.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
That I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I think everybody would have just gone on to their celebrations,
shake your hands, and move on. But then you've got
him running off the baseline. I've watched this probably fifty times,
and I'm still shaking my head, going, how does he
get to that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
You know what? My favorite part of it, what's that buddy?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
If it was? Yeah, when he put a Laker's hat on,
when he walked, he's wearing a Lakers sweater. They take
him out like when they take Kareem out an airplane
and he's wearing his Lakers jersey under his popet. I
mean he always got to be ready, right, it's like
your superhero costume.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But Yatis's point the.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Reveal like he was like like he's a kid announcing
where he's going to go to college. I just want
to say, and he puts Lakers hat on. I love
la to see it.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Peace out.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That would be an interesting cap to the night, no
question about it was really uh yeah, but it would
have taken Tyrese Haliburton's dad off the hook. I wait,
I'm announcing I'm leaving and forcing my hand. But it's
just that that curiosity of where the line goes. In
competition at any level, and certainly from the professional side,
(11:59):
not often do you have the It's not quite a
finger wagging moment, but it's close of the the superstar
going all right, all right, we're done.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So what I still have a scoreboard, I still have
one more title.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's a nice little's all like, straight line, straight line.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Oh, by the way, I have a title, blah blah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
But he's just got that weight no matter what he says,
even if it's a little bit of yeah, I know
you're right, jani Yan, you are right. No, you're right, man,
you're right, You're right. You're right, you're But that's the thing, right,
I don't know what was said, you know, from the
Pacers themselves, but you know, guy's dad can't control that
guy's dad, right, and then he's gonna act the fool.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He's gonna act the full Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
No, look, and he even said that he let's have
great respect for Tyree. So they didn't say it was Tyree.
It's just because you're you're you're part of team. You're
part of Pacers Nation, right, you're part of the team.
You ran on the court after the game, and you're
you're a player's dad, so you're pretty much you're you're
part to that team, and you ran on the court
to get in my face like that. Alsombarrassed. Bad job
by security. Everybody was on the court. What do you
(13:08):
expect him to do?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Everybody was on the court. Got at least pretend that you're,
you know, trying to protect this house. There's several hundred
million dollars worth of athletes mulling about, and this guy's
able to run out with his giant towel with it
without being checked at all. Fox Sports Radio The Jason
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Guess what I think if they lose. What happened tonight
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(13:53):
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right after we get off the air. Well last hour,
we were joined from Madison Square Garden by John Paul Morosi,
MLB network insider who took in the Pistons three point
victory over the Knicks, and we're gonna get into the
Tom Thibodeau portion of this conversation in a little bit,
because I told you before the series, if the Knicks
(16:43):
losing the first round, he's gonna get fired. And after
tonight and what happened at the end of the game,
absolutely that's gonna happen. He had a good run. But
because the Pistons won. John Paul Morosi said, Hey, I'll
still stick around and talk baseball with you guys like
I normally do so. From somewhere outside of Madison Square,
guard right now, maybe getting a full offel, maybe getting
(17:05):
sauceed pepper sandwich.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Maybe getting chased down the hallway by that guy from earlier.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Maybe at Blimpy's, maybe being Blimpys, maybe being running from
a security guard who wanted him to leave the suite
where he was doing the interview from.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah caricature at Sardi's. I mean, you know, you just
don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It is MLB Network in sign or extraordinary John Palmer ROSSI,
John Paul, what's happening again, buddy?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I'm doing great, guys, Yes, indeed, I am. I am
back at the hotel.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I am I am.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
In my my Detroit Pistons PJS, and I'm I'm all.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Set for a long spring nap here getting ready for
baseball tomorrow. But man, what a what a great night,
what a great time of year, and and.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
My goodness, one one loss of the Pistons and you're
already talking about letting go of the coach.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Jason.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
This is this is a pretty pretty dire circumstance for
a team that a few hours ago had a comfortable
three to one lead.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Oh no, no, this was this was before the this
is before the series. I said, if they lose this
first round, he's gonna.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Be Yeah, it's about a month ago that it began.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And then not get and then not get it. You know,
when two of your best players you leave him on
the bench because you don't want to call a time out.
But we'll get to that. So we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Again. That was That was a dominant theme of of
my friends that I was walking out with from of
the building. And the people who were not trying to
throw me out, that's the people that were talking to
me wanted to try to tell me.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
So we had a nice and had a nice dialogue
about that.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
But yes, I do know there was a there was
a great amount of Major League baseball going on right now,
and that is of course my focus once again. So
it's a Morosi doubleheader, which I'm really appreciated.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, joining us from the land of the team
with the best record in baseball and also the Yankees.
That's how I'm gonna end title and also the Yankees,
and also the end. But I do give the yanked
John Paul. That's the thing about the Yankees, right they
opened the game with back to back to back home
runs and and and the big deal not about the
torpedo bats everything else. But I'm look at the Yankees
and I feel like they're really not playing that well.
(19:04):
Like you think it was a boy. The Yankees really
there struggling in their strugg and then you look and
go boy, but but you know, there they are in
first place and it doesn't feel like they're playing all
that well, which is bad news for the rest of
Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
It is, And I keep waiting for the Red Sox
to catch fire a little bit. And again it's still early,
and the Red Sox might because there are parts of
the Red Sox roster that I.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Like better than the Yankees roster.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
But the Yankees, even.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Without Juan Soti.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You think about what Ben Rice has been for them,
already this season and the impact that he's made, and
it's certainly a bunch of adjustments he's made since last season.
Aaron Judge is elite of the elite. They win fifteen
to three tonight against the Orioles, who.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Are in really bad shape right now.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I mean, my goodness, but Aaron Judges Batten four twelve.
And when you've got an elite player who is at
his absolute peak, and that is the scary thing for
the American League is that this not the sixty two
homer season. Judge might be the best version of Aaron
Judge ever, and that is really scary. And Ben Rice
(20:13):
tonight his ops is darned near a thousand. Paul Goldschmid
has been revived by playing in New York, and even
Bellinger hasn't gotten going yet. Jazz Chisholms still batting under
two hundred. But this is still again we're talking about
the NBA a lot right now, But this is when
when you've got your superstars who are playing like superstars.
Maybe you got two or three players at their peak,
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and that can sometimes be enough to carry you to
a championship. And yes, the rotation has been a little
bit up and down. But tonight rodn really good six
innings to earn. So I like a lot of what
we're seeing.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Right now from the New York Yankees.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You mentioned the Orioles JP.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Did we crown the young core too early or can
they still get off the mat here?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Well, that's a really good question. And Mike, here's what
I think.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
This is the cautionary tale for all the gms who
want to be very incremental in the way they build
their roster and make their moves. I would say this
in baseball, the worst thing isn't being bad, it's missing
your window and not maximizing it. In my opinion, really,
(21:22):
I would almost rather. I would almost rather be a mediocre,
the below average team that never contends seriously. Then be
the team that's blessed with all these great picks and
you should win a championship and you never really go
all in. And last year they did not go all
into the deadline. Tarik Skobel was there waiting for.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Them to acquire if they've made the right offer.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
They never made the right offer, and now they're staring
at this group of prospects that is good but not
difference making, and they're pitching is completely in.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Tatters, and that's where they're at.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Cedric malls up to a great stuf, but unfortunately for them,
it might be Mullin's off to a great start and
then they can train them.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
At the deadline.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Right, That's how bad it is, Mike, And again, I
always am a little bit reluctant to make too many
sweeping statements this early in the season. However, However, in
all my years of cover in baseball, there's one thing
I've learned for sure, and that is the American League
East is not a division that you can win by
(22:25):
going eleven and eighteen to start the year. It's just
it's darn near impossible to come back. Could you do
it theoretically, sure, but it's just it's not a way
to win the division, especially not when you're pitching. Is
this bad and the Baltimore Orioles, my friends, I fear
for our friends in Maryland.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
They may have missed their opportunity.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well. From the top of Major League Baseball, which is
the Mets and the Yankees, who are the second best
team in New York John Paul, we watched last year
the Chicago White Sox have the all time worst season
that we've seen in baseball. We chronicle it all year
and said, wow, that's a once in a lifetime thing
that we know what, We're never going to see that again.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Just trying to mock me along the way there, Chase Smith.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Except here are the Rockies with a combination of not
being good and also in the best division in baseball,
John Paul four and twenty five. Right now they are
on pace to shatter the White Sox record for losses
in a season. Is this something we're going to be following?
Will the Rockies get it right? What do you think
about where we're at right now?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I believe the kids on social media would say, hold
by Colorado, ipa please, because the Rockies, the Rockies are
about to supersede what we saw from the White Sox
a year ago. Guys, it's not good and this is
(23:45):
the residue of the Rockies. And again they've never not
since the twenty eighteen team that made the playoffs and
the least had a chance to make a little bit
of a run, they've never they've never really built on that.
They traded away Nolan Arnado, they Trever Story left, and
(24:06):
Ryan McMahon is still there. But they're still not pitching
and their bullpen isn't much to write home about. Uh,
this is a fairly anonymous team. That is that is
that has a chance to be sadly historically bad.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
And guys, they they brought in Clint.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Hurdle as the hitting coach hasn't helped. Bud Black is
a really good baseball man, the manager, but this has
got to be wearing on him. They just the Chris
Buying Bryant contract was has not worked out at all.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
He's been hurt and effective. It's there's not.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
A lot to really say in a positive way about
this team.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
And the other thing about it.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Is you have picked the worst year in that division
to be historically bad. I realize the schedule is more
balanced now, so it's not going to be quite like
every time they wake up they're gonna be facing the
Dodgers of Potreys.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
But they're gonna tough to play them a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And my goodness, the Dvacs are a good team. The
Giants are a good team.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
The NL right now is this really good?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And and this might be the Rockies might be the
the mirror image of all the greatness in the National
League Right now, there's the Rockies on the other side
of that mirror, and my goodness that that face looking
back at them is not not too appealing right now, guys,
they're looking kind of stressed out.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
And it's only April.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Jason Smith show My guy, John Baulbarosi a double dip
with JP today at John Morosi, leave off the h
because mom said, so j O N M O R
O s I. MLB Network covers the NHL with us.
I mean he's all over the place and then he
gave you a live report from the garden. I mean
all of that and then some every week with us
(25:54):
here on the show.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
So can I get my nerd question?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You know, take it?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I mean the money he's got on.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
The field here.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
I'm in a great move because it doesn't the time tonight, guys.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
This is okay, good wow, He's like Deon Sim's I
got time for this today, all right? So so let
me let me ask the money question. Then with the Rockies,
the White Sox, the Marlins, some of the like, where
are we going to get a legitimate floor that forces
some expenditure of cash.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Well, this is the This is a big question.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And and we'll see, we'll see what comes out of
the next DBA. I think that it's it's too early
to say anything for sure about if the next deal
is going to have a cap or not. We're probably
a couple of years away from learning that information. If
it's going to be sometime after the New year in.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Twenty twenty seven. But that's what it's going to take.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
The only way that this gets fixed is if there's
a cap and the floor, and that's and that's the
only thing that will that will allow or that will
force the smaller market teams.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
And I would I would put the pirates.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
In that same converse, the athletics and the same conversation.
But if clearly we have been into the revenue sharing
world now for more than two decades, okay we are
two decades on with this being the idea and the
fundamental underpinning of the game and revenue sharing itself, we
(27:19):
have to be able to say directly, after two decades
worth of evidence, the revenue sharing enough is not going
to do it. It's just it's not by itself enough
to compel the smaller market teams to spend closer to
the mets.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Now, no one's expecting everybody.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
To spend like Steve Cohen, that's not that's not that's
not what's happening here. The idea is that that you
should spend something close to what your revenues that you
should and that you should be in a normal competitive
band with everybody else.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
And this is now where.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
And this is the complexity of the next negotiation, which
I still think is a chance to work out well
for the game. I really believe that there's enough smart
people in the sport that care about the game that
I think can arrive at something at the common sense solution.
But you've got the uber rich owners, you've got the
middle tier owners, you've got the small market owners, and
(28:14):
then you've got the players. If this becomes like a
like a three three way royal rumble or a four
party royal rumble, then it's going to get a little icy.
The guy with the toughest job here is going to
be Rob Manford. To find a way to unify the
Mets and the Yankees and the Dodgers with the Marlins, Pirates,
(28:35):
Rockies and an idea with an idea of what's best
for the game, and that the financial expenditures should represent
what is best for the game, and guys it's way
too early to know how that's all going to land,
other than to say it's a big question. And the
(28:56):
fans and the small markets that are saying that my
team is not spending and my team doesn't have a
chance to compete with the Dodgers, it's really hard for
me to take that argument and find a clever or
thorough or fair way of arguing the counterpoint, because it's
just it's not the present reality of the game.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John Morosi,
MLB Network insider John Paul Morosi joining us from the
land of the best team in baseball. And also the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Wow, wait in la as always money.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Oh we got five more months of these conversations, my friends.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
All right, see you man, We'll talk to you after
makes sense, So you joy the night, buddy. Here goes
John Paul Morosi. Look, I'm not saying it's not true
best team in baseball. And also the Yankees. Yeah, that's nine,
that's it. And also the Yankees and hit the over
not even the halfway home. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Time
(29:53):
Now to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports, And I like to think of tonight for
me as a glass hat more more than half full night,
more than half pause. The Mets won best team in baseball. Okay,
the Knicks lost, But did I just get another really
big win? Queup brath Bonanza. Steve de Seger has more
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on that game and everything else trending in the wide world.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
What was the last point of yours this third? We
know the Knicks, we know the Mets.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
When you get to it, I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Okay, you should know.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I've known you for a long time. Should know who
my hockey team is.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Oh, I tell you, I honestly thought you said Dodgers,
And I said, why would he be talking.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
About Okay, oh boy, yeah, overtime Dodgers in overtime, yes,
or two of it, Dodgers in double overtime.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:42):
That's not gonna happen with the Marlins, because you know,
the two worst pitching staffs in baseball are the Orioles
and the Marlins. So the Orioles lost at home fifteen
to three to the Yankees this evening. It was twelve
nothing Yanks in the fifth, and the Marlins are down
seven to one at Dodger Stadium, and it's only top
of the fifth, and.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
This game's going to go till midnight West Coast time.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
No, I have confidence in the new rules. In fact,
I adore the new rules on an evening such as
this that even a lopsided game that might wind up
eleven to three type is still going to be over
in roughly three hours.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Okay, all right, we'll see.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Unlike the Cleveland game, which had the three hour rain
delay and is still going as we approach midnight. In Ohio,
Guardians have just walked it off, just won it two
to one against the Twins. That looks like a walk
off Homer. You know they had a guy who wasn't
their closer recently, Emmanuel Clause pitch the top of the
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ninth in a tie game. They have just home it
in the bottom of the ninth to beat the Twins.
That is a two to one final. As for the
other games in progress I mentioned, Dodgers up, Mariners lead
five to one over the Angels bottom of the seventh,
and the Padres are holding on against the Giants five
to four in the bottom of the seventh. Texas fifteen
to two of the a's Jacob de Grom the winner
(32:01):
with six scoreless innings seven strikeouts. Atlanta won eight two
at Colorado. The Rockies have lost eight in a row.
They are four and twenty five this year. Tonight's losing
pitcher Herman Marquez, zero to five with an ERA of
nine point eight. Two wins for Milwaukee and Houston. The
Mets are twenty one and nine. After beating Arizona, it
was eight to nothing in the fourth inning, eight three
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the final the win to David Peterson with five innings
one run allowed victories on the road for Boston and
Kansas City Cubs as well. Philadelphia, with two runs bottom
of the ninth beat Washington seven to six. They got
the two runs on a sackfly and a wild pitch
Saint Louis had since.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I was really upset about that because the Mets could
have really had another game in their magic number column.
But the Phillies pull off the win.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
It was such a great start from Zach Wheeler, and
then they gag it in the ninth inning the pen
and an air by Trey Turner and still win it
in the bottom of the ninth. Cincinnati's home game against
Saint Louis was rained out they'll play a doubleheader tomorrow.
Reds have won five in a row. Yes in the
NHL playoffs. Carolina in double overtime beat New Jersey five
to four. That's a four games to one win in
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that first round series. Deubles are out and the Hurricanes
were trailing three nothing tonight after the first period at Vegas.
It's still Golden Knights two to one over Minnesota, end
of two in the second period. In LA, Kings and
Oilers tied at one, and Ottawa stays alive, winning four
nothing at Toronto. That was a one nothing game in
the third. Vancouver coach Rick Tocket stepped down the forty
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nine Ers gave tight end George Kittle a four year extension.
In the late NBA game, Clippers are shooting over fifty
percent still, but they've already allowed seventy two points at Denver.
They just started the third quarter. Now gets seventy two
to fifty nine over the Clips this first round series
even at two. Detroit won at New York one o six,
one oh three. Indiana took care of Milwaukee in Game
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five in overtime comeback one nineteen one eighteen, and Boston
took care of Orlando eliminated the Magic in a game
five one.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Twenty to eighty nine. Celtics outscored him in the third
quarter by twenty three.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon Live from the Tirec dot Com
Studios coming up next. Yes, the Pistons stay alive by
beating the Knicks one oh six to one oh three.
I told you before the playoffs if the Knicks losing
the first round to the Piston my Bowl prediction, Tims
is going to be out after what happened at the
end of the game tonight and his explanation following it. Yeah,
(34:27):
that's really gonna happen if they blow this series to
the Pistons. We'll get into that controversy next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
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Speaker 1 (34:43):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon and Uh, if you remember a few weeks ago,
Big Bowl prediction for the NBA Playoffs, I said, if
the Knicks lose in the first round to the Pistons
or really whoever. But if they lose in the first round,
Tims is gonna get fired. Yeah wait, I posited that
(35:03):
to Rick Buker before the playoffs, right, he says, you know,
I haven't heard anything that Timms is in trouble, but yeah,
I could see it after tonight. You can really see
it because the end of the game, the Knicks lose
one oh six to one oh three to the Pistons,
and he made a mistake that is absolutely unforgivable. Jalen
Brunston and Josh Hard are out of the game and
(35:27):
he wanted them to get back in the game. With
about three minutes left to go, a little less than
three minutes, they go to the scorer's table. Now the
Knicks have one time out left, right, Tim's use all
the timeouts as a close game, they have one time
out left. He doesn't use it until there's twenty seven
seconds left. The Pistons have the lead still the Knicks
hadn't able to cut into it, and then Brunson and
(35:48):
Hart go in the game. Okay, so your best play
forget about Josh Hart. Josh Hart, I mean should be
on the court. He makes so many clutch plays. But
your best player, your best player, you're okay with sitting
on that who makes all the plays in the final
three minutes of the week. Watch team, Watch that team
stand around when he's not available.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I mean he makes multiple times.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Brunson is, yes, as good as Karl Anthony Towns is,
gret Jalen Brunson is the engine of this team. And
Tom Thibodeau didn't want to call a time out to
get him back in the game. Now, I get in
the beginning you think there's a flow, there's gonna be
some kind of stoppage, and there wasn't. After a certain
amount of time, you have to say, okay, time and
I gotta get I gotta get Jalen Brunson back. Well,
that's the amazing thing, right, got go for three minutes
(36:31):
left on the clock.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I contested NBA playoff game. There's not any sequence whereby
you had the automatic all right time to check in
you have. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
You have your backup guards in the game, and it's
not like they were playing great and you were eating
into the Pistons lead. You put your your your two
most clutch players, right, and Cat's pretty clutch, But it
doesn't matter because Jalen Brunson is the best player on
the next He's one of the top players in the league.
And he sits on the bench for two and a
half of the final three minutes because Tis didn't want
(37:04):
to call a timeout. Sorry, you use your timeouts, So
I'm sorry it went that way. You got to get
your best player in the bleeping game. Men, what the
hell are you doing? Like, really, this is this is
you know, we always used to say this is a
fireable offense, This is a fireable offense. This now takes
my Bowl prediction and amps it up that if they
wind up blowing this lead and losing to the Pistons,
TIBs will get fired. It'll because of this mistake will
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be the one that put everybody over the top. How
do you not get your best player in the game.
I mean, at some point you have to say, okay,
time out. You can let the clock go a little bit.
I understand, Hey, we're gonna get this going. I want
to save the time out. But after thirty seconds forty
five seconds, when there's a you know, you're getting down
about the two minute markets. Okay, let's let's get these
guys in the game. Let let's you know, these guys
(37:45):
got to get in the game here, like I can't
get we can't, I mean even down to a minute
and they still know we're gonna save the timeout. Dude
in a minute, get him in the bleeping game, man.
And then I had to listen to Tibbs's explanation as
to why he did and put them in the game.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And here it is, and this makes it even worse.
Play it, Frostbury, and.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You had Jalen and Josh there on the scores table
waiting to check it. Get in. What was the thought
process of not calling the timeout or not getting them
back in the game as that lead kind.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Of went up.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Just where we were with our timeouts. And then he
said coaches decision, Yeah, and that was a very succinct dance.
Yeah no, And he said there's a lot that goes
into it. And I feel like that part and a
few good men when Demi Moore objects and then she
strenuously acts, I object overruled. No, we strenuously object. Oh
(38:36):
if you strenuously objected, I have to change mind. Like
he said, there's a lot that goes into the decision,
and I want to say, oh, there's a lot that
goes into the decision. Wait, you're the head coach, what
do you mean there's a lot. He has a lot
that goes into the decision. But this is what you
get paid for. This is what you get paid to do,
is to get your best player into the game in
the final two plus minutes. Okay, the JJ Reddick, as
(38:58):
much as he hates me, stands, ah, he's not gonna
call time out. He's gonna he's gonna make sure Lebron
and Luca get back in the game if they're checked
out of the game with three minutes left to go.
Of even Doc Rivers as bad as he is, he
knows I can't have Giannas sitting on the bench the
final two and a half minutes of the game. I
gotta get him back in. Yeah, I'll lose my final
time out. Okay, that's on me. But he took a
(39:18):
bad situation, which is one time out left, and made
it worse by not getting his best player back in
the game for the final three minutes. Well, on the
plus side, I mean he didn't take it to the
locker room with him. He did eventually use that timeout. Yeah,
with twenty seven seconds and the look on Brunson's face
when he find when he get it getting up off
the off the ground, like dude, come on, man, what
(39:40):
the hell are you doing?
Speaker 4 (39:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
And now you've got quotes starting to come out of
the locker room bridges and others holding court with the
media and more or less just saying, yeah, I don't
know what the hell we were doing. Uh, there's my
succinct way of encapsulating their larger thoughts. But yeah, with
about three three h five or whatever it was, they're
at sitting at the scores to waiting, waiting, plenty of opportunities,
(40:03):
plenty of possessions, and then by time you come in
it's too late. It becomes that frantic all right, we've
got to and look they almost got the miracle of
miracles right when you start getting into the free throw game.
And it's something we talked about earlier. Not exactly a
clinic from that side of things from either squad, but
a terrible game for both Brunson and for Cat. I
(40:25):
mean I would have had more respective Tims would have said, yeah,
Jalen was having a bad game.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I didn't feel the push to get him back in.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
He does the rick Patino. Yeah, that's why I took
him out of the game. You know what I mean,
just just.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Run with it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
At that point, you can't saving a timeout, Collex it.
How about a Fresca exit, Swollen don't like me. I'm
not gonna put my best player back in the game
because a timeout is worth more.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Don't you get like nine hundred timeouts in the NBA anyway?
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Come on, man, coming up next. If this was the
only NBA controversy tonight, we'd have a lot, But oh
we got a whole other one to get into as well.
That's straight ahead, Jason, I'm like Fox.
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