December 4, 2025 • 40 mins
Former Steelers’ QB, Ben Roethlisberger, thinks Mike Tomlin would be successful at Penn State. And Longtime NFL Insider Jason Cole joins the show to preview TNF and all things Week 14.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Then, welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. We'll have more
NBA on the way, more drama with Giannis, Chris Paul.
But I don't know that anybody had a worse day
than Mike Tomlin. I mean I don't know, man, I
mean there's bad days. Chris Paul certainly bad day. Well,
(00:51):
they didn't lose again, No, nobody actually asked him any
questions about what Aaron Rodgers had to say. Yeah, but
when you had two of.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
The greatest players to ever put on Steeler uniforms say
that you're not a great coach.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And you should be fired.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yet, it's not a great day for you, man, Not
that we not that we thought Ben Roethlisberger, James Harrison
and And and Mike Tomlin were best budds.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
No going out and hanging out.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But you know when you hear that that that's still
a pretty bad day for you.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well but I mean Tomlin had been reading it in
Ed Buschett's columns for years, so I mean this is
nothing new.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
H H.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
The relationship between Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Tomlin was never
a warm and fuzzy one, but it worked.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
They were able to win. It's a lot of winning.
They were able to do it, win the Super Bowl.
You know, it's a it's a really you got to
hand it to both those guys and all the guys
that played to get to and win super Bowls when
he the coach and the quarterback were not best friends.
But we can still find a way to get through it.
But now that Mike Tomlin is circling the drain, like
I feel like Mike Tomlin is is uh is walking
(01:58):
along and and like you hear that noises buzzards you
know ahead like going, I got a dead man walking
right here. This is he's getting He's getting fired. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The buzzards, the buzzard just circling and will Arnett is
singing from ice age food, glorious food. There has been
no more momentum towards Mike Tomlin being fired or reached
some sort of agreement to let good to be let
go from the Steelers than it is right now. Look,
we talked about this in the preseason, you know, we say,
(02:28):
ahead of the curve, you understand that this was going
to be the last year for Tomlin, that the twenty
twenty four season was barely enough with the strategy they
had and Tomlin's belief and I know what we need
to do with the quarterbacks, and boy did it end
badly with Russell Wilson. So now this year, even though
he got his contract extended, Look, Steels do things the
(02:50):
right way. We're not going to have a guy in
a lame duck kind of situation.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We're going to do this. It's not not a good
way to do business.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But you knew that this was going to be it.
And now the Steelers are absolutely floundering. They decide we're
going to go the cheap route for a quarterback again
with Aaron Rodgers, and it's not working. And now you
know that, Okay, what's gonna happen at the end of
the year. Ben Roethlisberger on the Footballing podcast Former Steelers legend,
Who is again? We say that, I say this about
Roethlisberger all the time. A network's going to hire him
(03:18):
and they're going to have the next great antalyst. K
I said the two best guys, right were Cam Newton
and Ben Roethlisberger. And who's making a lot of headlines
now that he's been brought on as a full time analyst,
Cam Newton?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Right, I told you these two guys. So here's Roethlisberger
on his football and podcast, not just trolling Mike Tomlin,
but he actually has an idea for another job. Yeah,
if he would leave the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's being talked.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
About around here a lot. Maybe it's time, Maybe it's
a cleanhouse time. Maybe it is. Maybe it's time. And
I like coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect
coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him too. Maybe
a fresh start for him is what's best, whether that's
in the pros, whether.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what
he was doing Penn's eight. He'll probably go win national championships.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Legit, because he wouldn't have a losing season.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now he wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, but the synapses were firing really fast, and heytend
out that sounds like a great That sounds like Roethlisberger
trying to find a way to say, listen, the Pittsburgh
Steelers need new leadership, and they do.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
They just need a new voice at this point, right,
you need a new voice. And you think, okay, well,
here's Roethlisberger saying a nice thing about it. No, no,
he's saying, you need to go back to knowing full well,
going back to college after you're coaching, you're Bill Belichick
now with that without the girlfriend like this is it's
it's embarrassing for an NFL head coach to say, Okay,
now I have nothing else to do but go back
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to college. And now I'm gonna I've been to the
head coach and I have won super Bowls, but now
the best place for me is to go back to college.
This is Roethlisberger completely stomping on Mike Tomlin because he
can and say, hey, listen, you know everybody sees it.
Now here's Mike Tomlin, who maybe go back win national championships.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, no, no, he is still trolling the crap out of
Tomlin with that. Yeah, maybe go to college take over
for James Franklin.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I mean it's something we've talked about in terms of
the Penn State job and nobody what's that word wants
it or phraseology, I guess. But for for Mike Tomlin, look,
he's still better than how many coaches, right, We'll still
put him up on the pantheon of great motivators coaches
because it's all blends back together, right, the x's and
(05:29):
o's versus getting guys to rise up in a seventeen
game season, it still gets it done. So you're under
contract through twenty twenty seven. So I don't think he's
walking away from it. I think they either come to
a nice, big buyout or they trade him, right, because
there's plenty of places Giants are the one that we've
(05:50):
been talking about quite a bit of that's like personality fit. Yeah, right,
it's not going to be. It's not going to be
You're out the day after all of a sudden he
gets called into an office. No on, It's also the Steelers, right,
you know, we were talking about the Chris Paul situation before.
It's like you gotta have a fall guy, right, and
when you're the star, you have a much larger voice.
If you're a role player, you're not for the Steelers.
(06:12):
It's just always the curiosity to me, it's like do
the gms really do anything? Or do they do what
he tells them to?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So like that dynamic is curious to me. What does
Omar Khan? What's his culpability in how this roster is constructed?
Because we went through some of the salaries yesterday, find
the full conversation of the podcast to you know, compartmentalize
and shrink it down for bite sized consumption. Here, you know,
your top four guys are defenders and as a collective
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they make about seventy million dollars, two of whom are
well north of thirty. In terms of you know where
they're at and their football timelines. You're seeing it week
to week. You have no idea what you're getting from
that side of the ball, what kind of pass rush
you're getting, what kind of opportunity. I mean, look at
the Bears just ran all over them, just just like
(07:01):
there was no heart at all when they when they
played them. But we look at just the opportunity for
the Steelers, and for Tomlin to recognize all the wind
streak is great, like you can't just diminish it because
it's it's unlike anything we've seen. But at some point
you got to have the postseason success and and that's
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long been bandied about and long just debated about where
Tomlin is. But for the veterans, the legends of the
organization to be like, yeah, here's your here's your kind
of you know, they should go. And for Penn State,
I mean, it's not a terrible idea on the grand
scale because that is what he's always cited as, right,
the recruiter, the motivator. Wait, he's a great recruit. He's
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been coaching in the NFL for twenty years. You're tom
and he's a great recruiter. We each got to come.
It's not like he's Harbaugh where he just came from
college football.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I mean, he's a great but it came over twenty years.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
But I think part of that is just the personality,
not necessarily the bring you into the building, but keep
you engaged, because that's the other part of recruiting now, right,
we talk about in college all the time with the
amount of ability and flow where You only have these
guys basically for a year before they want to leave.
Can you You got them for four months on campus
and you have to keep them happy the entire time,
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their families, their hangers on, their managers and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Can you imagine him saving money with Penn State by
going after like a two star quarterback. Hey, listen, we
don't want to.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You saw what I did in the pros with Fields
and Wilson and Rogers five star guys.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
At you're a two star guy. We're not gonna really
give you a lot of nil money.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
We're gonna We're just gonna make it work with you, Okay.
But that's where it always gets. We get into this
weird spot because I mean, you're a Jets guy, like
right now, on on top of the world of what
the Bears are doing. But I've watched it for years.
It's been a disaster right quarterback after quarterback after quarterback
and no winning to go with it with the Steelers
since Roethlisberger left, no matter how bad, and you can
(08:51):
run through them, it's a laundry list, not as long
as the jerseys that go around Cleveland that look like capes.
At this point, forty two quarterbacks since nineteen nine United
started a game. You're not quite to that level, but
they still end up on the plus side of five
hundred every year. It's like, that's just wrong. Like, at
no point has it truly bitten him in the ass,
(09:12):
or the GM or just the Rudy family as a whole.
It's like, Eh, we're still cruising alone right in the
meady part of the curve all the time. Now, before
we tell you how this is gonna end, you got
to hear from James Harrison, who look one of the
great linebackers in Pittsburgh Steeler history, enjoyed the best years
of his career when he played for Mike Tomlin. Yeah,
(09:34):
he's also not shedding tears for the Steelers head coach.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You tell me where there's a good coach on this staff,
because right now I don't see anybody planning at their potential.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Mike Dommlin is in control of hiring.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Coaches, and he may not be the one coaching the position,
but he is in position to hire the coaches to
get the potential.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Of our players.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
And right now he has not put coaches in the
position that can get the potential out of what it
is that we have. Something has to be done, Bro.
And I know the Stillers historically don't move on from coaches,
but I think it's time the history be made, because
(10:23):
right now the only history room making is being the
worst Pittsburgh still a team statistically almost in the history
of the organization.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So there's James Harten, very very emotional, James Harrison there.
Great coaches get players to play to their potential. That's
not happening now. Look, this is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Mike tomlins last year in Pittsburgh, and it's not going
to end with a big firing the day after. It
will end very.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
As amicably as possible, where both sides agree it's time
for him to move on, or they could potentially. I
don't see the trade happen because then it gets really
messy in that kind of situation where it's gonna be, Hey,
we do things the right way, we're gonna part you
know whatever. They figure out the money that you know,
and he's gonna go and he will go someplace because
you can't unring this bell that's been out there for
(11:19):
so long that Tomlin has passed his expiration date. When
you have fans channing fire Tomlin at the games, and
when you have fans booing when they play Renegade in
the fourth quarter to psych up the defense and fans
are booing it, you know, Okay, we need change with
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
We can't. We can't go forward with this again.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
We can't. We're just it's the everybody is upset. We're
in a bad place, and quite honestly, you need a
new voice. It can get you to the modern era
of football because Tomlin is still he's trying to win
like it's nineteen eighty five with with a necessary evil
at quarterback and we're not gonna go crazy for talent
wise guys. But because I had my fill with Roethlisberger
and Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell and all those guys.
(12:00):
I mean, he's tried to go cheap on quarterbacks and
he's tried to not bring in guys that that could
have a diva type attitude that would rest try to
fight him for control of the team. But this is
kind of how you win in the NFL with talented
quarterback and a dynamic offense, right, Like what they do
in the offseason went out and they bulked up defensively
and they you know they extended, guys, we're gonna run
the football, run the footbron you don't win that way.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Hey, they just brought in Adam Deelin and they let
Darius Slay go and bring in guys that were good
five years ago. Yeah. But but that that's the whole
thing is is that you need you need to get
into what the modern era twenty twenty five is for
football in the NFL. And and the Steelers are not it, man,
they are not. They are. But it comes back to
the discussion of winning versus winning again. You know, you
(12:42):
and I look at that and go, man, I wish
I had that every year. I wish I was complaining
that my team was, even if it's every year is
a game about five hundred, I'd like to be in
that stratosphere to where I'm playing meaning like this is
the first time the Bears are playing meaningful football in
December and not meaningful for somebody else. Okay, So for Pittsburgh,
(13:04):
you know you want a bit more for James Harrison.
You're in his voice. Look, as soon as they hired
Arthur Smith, what did I tell you? Like, this offense
is no longer any hope they had was dead right,
because remember he had Bijohn Robinson in a box for
a years ago. We'll get, We'll get. He's gonna get
his touches.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You never saw't. My He and Engineer Gives are the
two best running backs in the game. This guy kept
him in a box for a full year. But but
again for the GMS, they they got to answer some
questions in this process too, right of all, right, why
does he have complete control over everything in terms of
the quarterback position. But you've been able to win by
(13:43):
being on the cheap and spending your money elsewhere. The
league is turned. Now you have to decide, you know,
small W versus capitol W. You want to be that
great in the playoffs again.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, he'll be. It's too much momentum going that way.
And everybody he knows changes needed that.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And those fans were all mad that Sticks announced that
tour with Chicago. Is that is that what it was
all about?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean, come on, now, I'm gonna start playing come
sail Away in instead of rend of game.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
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Speaker 6 (15:17):
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Speaker 3 (15:32):
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Live from the Tirec dot Com Studios. So big stuff
in the NFL today. Ben Roethlisberger and James harrit some
(16:00):
Steeler legends, both think Mike Tomlin should be coaching elsewhere.
James Harrison says he's not getting the most out of
his players. Ben Roethlisberger says maybe he can go coach
Penn State.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We get a lot of crazy stuff we're dealing with,
and because of that, we bring in the craziest guy
we know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
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He is a Pro Football Hall of Very Good voter.
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. It is
Jason Cole. What's happening? Man?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Doo dooo dood boot there we go, get it fired up.
There's nothing better than the beginning of that song really
than the beginning of that song. So do you think
(16:53):
really that's just one of the greatest yeah blues guitar intros.
That's one of the grace that there is right there,
po po po.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So Hey.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So first year at Penn State Mike Tomlin nine wins,
eight wins. Would it be a bellt chick like the year?
What would that be?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I think it might be with Miami and the Dolphins.
That might be a better hotch I don't think he's coaching.
Most guys in the NFL want no part of coaching
college college football.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, but Ben Roethiser wants him to coach Penn State.
That's why I feel Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger is an idiot who doesn't understand how
college football works. Right now, Okay, Ben Roethlisberger just says
whatever he wants to say because he thinks that it'll
you know, people actually pay attention to his moronic clock trap.
I mean, but I mean, come on, He's not anybody
who's in the NFL staying in the NFL as long
(17:50):
as they possibly can because nobody wants to deal with
having to recruit their players twenty four seven three sixty
five because once you get a kid, you're just waiting
for somebody else to pull for him. So yeah, Tomlin
doesn't weigh that. I mean, he's not kissing anybody's rear,
so no, that's not happening. He's going to end up
(18:10):
coaching in the NFL. At the very worst, he'll sit
out a year, he'll do television. They've degraded television, and
then he'll decide whether he wants to be a defensive
coordinator or wants to be a head coach again, because
he'll be jobs open for him. That's how that's going
to work.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
We already got him in Miami, you got him replace
in Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, absolutely, I would. Look, I think there's gonna be
some ready made jobs if he wants to, If he
walks away, if they split, whatever happens. Could it happen. Sure,
would it happen if Dan Rooney was a lot Probably not.
But I think if Danny was around, and you know, no,
this is not a shot at art running the second,
I don't want to do that. But yeah, I think
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they probably would have figured out a solution by now.
At the same time, they went through a lot of
years with Chuck Noele at the end where they were
just kind of waiting it out to see to you know,
figure out what they were going to do next. And
even the early years of their Cower, I mean, Tommy
Maddox did god, you know, like come on, like so there,
(19:12):
you know what they have that Mike who was the
line to take them to the super Bowl again? So
it was a Tom Zack or what was his name?
I can't remember the guy's name. Who's a quarterback, Neil o'donalds. Yeah,
he was only slightly better with with the Steelers, you know,
(19:35):
like they went through a long time before they found
another you know, before they founded the franchise quarterback. And
that's their biggest problem. They got to find a franchise
quarterback and they haven't done it yet. So yeah, maybe
they'll do that with a new quarterback, and maybe they won't,
but their super Bowl history is written with franchise quarterback.
(19:55):
It's either Roethlisberger or Sports or Bradshaws. That's that's how
they win.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, just curiosity for me is just always the the GMS.
There seemed to be empty suits. Everything falls on Tomblin
in the outside world.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Oh no, no, no, that's not true. Are you talking
about in terms of blame.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm just talking about blame and how it's the perception
is that those guys don't do anything, so it all
just goes straight on Tomblin. In terms of this quarterback search.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah, but I mean Almark Conson that went three years
as the jam taken number for Kevin Colbert, so.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
He was in that building before that.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Though he was he was the cap guy. He was
not he was doing contracts. He wasn't. He wasn't picking players,
so you know understand what his role was. He was
not a scout, which may not portend to him being
able to take out a franchise quarterback. But his for
(20:52):
the Steelers is as much as we want to talk
about their consistency with with hold On Wan suck As No,
all right, I'm here. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I doubt if the Steelers were coming at me, but
Mike Tommin was at your house going, yeah, you say
that to my face, Jason Cole, it was it was.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Our rony on the call on the call right here again. Anyways,
as much as their history is about the consistency of
they're head coaching and the fact that they've made so
few changes. Yeah, A deeper look into it is it's
about the quarterback to have they had a franchise quarterback.
And when they have had a franchise quarterback, a truly
(21:33):
great player, they've won super Bowls because they've usually put
it with it and married that with a good defense
and it works out. Okay, that's that's how it goes
for them.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Jason Call our guest Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, so from there,
we take a look at Thursday Night football, the Cowboys
and the Lions and the Cowboy Bees and the Cowboys
offense and the and the way the Eagles have decidd.
We're just gonna play every other week. We have a
big game tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
You they're not. They're not even playing every other week
every three weeks, like tailing card. Tailing car is like, yeah,
we're got to show. Oh we got a game today. Cool,
all right, thank you forgotten.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's Sunday.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Sunday. Stick up on me, man, they do.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Oh they do? Yeah, come on, man, I got some
road rage at Georgia. Look at my boy from New
Jersey helping me out in Georgia. Now, nobody. Nobody's gonna
get that line, are they Anyways? Yeah, the Eagles are confounding.
(22:43):
But to get them back to Dallas and Detroit, I'd
love to believe in Dallas, I really would. But how
many times have we seen this act and it's just goes,
you know, like just up in the smoke at some
point in time, Like it's like that bad and Candell
that you get on fourth of July and you lay
(23:04):
it and it just kind of sparks a little bit.
It sparks a little bit more, it smarks a little
bit more, and you're afraid to approach it because you
think it's going to explode at the moment that juice,
you go up to it, and then you walk up
to it and you realize, now there's nothing there. It's
just it's empty. It's it's gone, and you just pour
water on it and you move on. That's what the
(23:25):
Cowboys are. It really is what they are. They're just
a team five hundred and they happen to put a
couple of games together. And I know the Pickens and
Ceedee Lamb have been awesome and everybody wants to talk
about that. I don't trust this team. You know at all,
and I've seen this routine too many times over the
last thirty years. It just it's not happening. Sorry, don't.
(23:49):
I don't believe it, not one tiny little bit. And
we're just waiting for a George Pickens meltdown, which is
about to happen anytime when he realizes when Jerry Jones walked, yeah,
I think we're gonna have some franchise. Yeah, George, I
just don't see that kind of big contract because we
were doing that for my cup and now we just
you know, we're just not doing that. We're just gonna
(24:11):
we're just gonna move on them. So we're gonna franchise
you and pick things. We'll just literally explode. If he
hears the word franchise tag the two words franchise, we
will literally explode, explode.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You have to stop the run. We're gonna play five.
We're gonna keep playing five defensive linemen, uh whenever we
want to, because you know, if you realize that, boy,
we kind of stoked up at the position. So uh,
that's kind of our strategy going forward. Thank you, Good
morning to you.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna play Clinton understanding that. How does
it feel like you. Actually the Jets turned the Cowboys
into contenders. How does that feel for you?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know, I feel like, hey, you know the Jets
that you know they can do something right once in
a while.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Somebody else that's right, X.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Jet now good? Uh, next level. By the way, Jerry
Jones walking to his press availability on say with a
turkey or Thursday said, with a turkey leg in his
hand might have might have been peak Jerry Jones.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Oh yeah, it was plastic. I give Jerry. You know,
nobody front runs like like Jerry Jones, not at least
not in sports. Maybe in politics, and I won't say who,
but nobody nobody front runs like Jerry Jones. He's greatest.
Which is all part of the magic, It's all part
(25:27):
of the act. It's like, yeah, we look like a
Super Bowl contender. I'm a genius. I'm just about to
tell you. Let's start writting those super Bowl techs steaming,
get on that right now. Get the travel plans. We
got a couple of hotels. We got we do. We've
got a couple of hotels already. We're you know, we're
gonna set up before tell all the wives and girlfriends
where we're going. To be staying so they can get
(25:48):
all the families take Yeah, I know we haven't finished
the season now, but we're going to plan for the
super Bowl thanks right now. Like they get ahead of
themselves every single time they win two games in a
row and all of a sudden, the print and super
Bowl tickets. That's how the Cowboys operate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But here's the thing though, Jay called the Eagles seem
like they just can't wait for the season to end.
They look, this is like the Eagles at the end
of twenty twenty three, where they're crossing days off till
the end of the calendar. It's like you all go
home and not have to see each other every day.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Well, they don't have any adults in the room anymore.
The adults in the room have all all left. Jason
Kels has gone Fletcher butlecher Cox is gone and brand
Graham quit for a while, so he doesn't really count.
I mean, so like anybody who can stand up and
tell Jalen, hey, Jayleen, can you cut that out or
(26:39):
look at aj and go a j we know that
you hate the quarterback. We don't care. Shut up right, No,
there's nobody around to do that. There's nobody around to
police the locker room. There's nobody bigger egos, there's you
know again, there's no adults in the room. And that
was that was the duty of Fletcher Cox, Jason Kel's,
(27:00):
Ryan Graham when he was around, and some of the
other older guys not around. Lane Johnson's not even there
to to really, you know, clean up and you know,
take somebody new task. And Jordan my Lot is as
good a guy as he is, he ain't gonna do it.
He's just not that guy.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I wanted to see how far back you were going
to go.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Jaworski's not there to keep everybody on.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Michaels, no, no, Harold Carmichael, Wilbert Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Is not there. No, not, not there to do anything.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
No no, no, no, no, no, Chuck but Noark, no, nope,
uh no.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Jackson's not there.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
No no, no Van Brock one no no.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Steve van Buren, No, Steve van Buren is not there either, No, no, not.
We're just gonna keep going all the way back.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Let me ask you one to the other question.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Two years, one year last year and the other one
the year before. Kind of out was I'm going to
back to ancient times talking about Kelsey and cock.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Dick for me, is not there anymore. It's not happening. Lord, hey,
let me ask you this, since so where is us?
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Which one of you said Wilbert Montgomery today?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I said, Wilbert Montgomery. I said, well, well, we both
we jinxed ourselves by both saying Harold Carmichael at the same.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Time bringing back zach Er snick fole.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Zach ERTs still playing making big catches in Washington. Marion
Campbell's out there, he's not walking through that door. Sure, hey,
really quickly, do Belichick, Inductor.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Mary and Campbell. Mary. Campbell was not with the Eagle
the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
No, he was that coach of the Eagles. Yeah, I'm
positive Marion Campbell's head coach of the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
I was coach of the Falcons. Weak. We're gonna we
have Frostburg. What's we're going? All? Right, arm you got
a question, you think it's important. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Very quickly. Do Robert Craft and Bill Belichick come to
blows when they're both inducted into the Hall together.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
It's gonna be so great, It would be so great
to have this. The problem is, but if the seniors
getting the way of this, only one guy may get in.
I think that would be Belichick, right, But do you
think that's all right?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
You're you're going to completely keep Belichick out. I mean
we're counting on you for that.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
No, to put Belichick in. I was on the I
was on the coach committee.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
No, you lose a sandwich for your three year, three
sandwich deal.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
You lose a sandwich in the negotiations. Call Scott Boroughs
is my guy. He's my new guy that was not
in the deal. He's renegotiating my next my next sandwich contract.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Marion Campbell, head coach of the Atlanta Falcons from eighty
seven to eighty nine, head coach of the Eagles from
eighty three to eighty five.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Wow and birds. Okay, very good, Okay, good, good memory
for you there. So anyways, getting back to you know,
the somewhat rolevant point to check and craft. I'm hoping
so this I really am hoping. But you know the
problem is that the way the system is built, and
(30:06):
last year it happened. You know, we only got Sterling
sharp in our five guys. So you know, this year
we have three very good senior candidates in Roger Craig, L. C.
Greenwood and Ken Anderson, and every bit of the votes
(30:28):
that they take away take away from me the chance
to get you know, eighty percent for both Belichick and Craft.
Because you only have one hundred and fifty votes, they
have to get forty. Again, I'm figuring that Belichick gets
at least forty, and then the question is, out of
that remaining one hundred and ten votes, how's that going
(30:51):
to be split? Is Craft's going to be able to
get forty of those votes? That's that's a really tough
part because those two deserve to get in, and they
should go in and prankically. They should go in together
and have to deal with each.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Other, present, have to present each other, have to present
each other in. That's how it should go. He's on
Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two as at Jason Cole sixty.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Two, go Aztex dude.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right, that'd be awesome. They're presenting each other on
the way in. It's time how to find out what's
trending in the wide world of sports on Montsi Belagio
sponsor what he got for us?
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Hey, guys, we will start in the NFL week fourteen
kicks off Thank You with Thursday Night football between the
Lions and the Cowboys. Detroit wide receiver Alvin Rossay Brown
is questionable. Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert says that the plan
is for him to play Monday night against the Eagles now.
He did have a plate and multiple screws put in
to repair his fractured left hand. The Browns have opened
(31:46):
the twenty one day practice window four quarterback Deshan Watson,
and the Buccaneers opened the twenty one day practice window
for wide receiver Mike Evans, who also practiced today. When
it comes to the NBA, the agent for Buckstar Young
Santete Kumpo, initiated talks with the team's front office over
the future of the two time MVP with the organization,
and then in today's game, Janna Santa Toakompo left in
(32:07):
the first quarter due to a non contact injury, who
was ruled out with the right CAF strain. Bucks were
down eighteen but came came back to defeat the Pistons
one thirteen to one oh nine. Cooper Flag had twenty
two points. The Mavericks topped the heat one eighteen to
oneh eight. Clippers no longer on a losing streak, now
on a winning streak.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
They beat the Hawks.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
One fifteen to ninety two.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Jardy I had to get rid of it is morning,
all that positivity in the locker room back right now?
Okay uh.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
The Spurs stop the Magic one fourteen to one oh two.
Darren Fox dropped thirty one points, including hitting the final
two free throws to give them the win.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But it was Jamal Murray's night.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
He dropped fifty two points in Indiana and the Nuggets
defeated the Pacers won thirty five to one twenty. In
men's college hoops, two schools suffered their first loss today.
That was number twenty two Indiana, who lost to Minnesota
seventy three to sixty four, and number twenty five Arkansas
defeated number six.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Louisville eighty nine to eighty.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
There's two NHL games still going on. The Capitals are
shutting out the Sharks five zero late in the second period.
Alex Soovechkin has already scored two goals, so he's up
to nine hundred and eleven career goals, and the Mammoth
are shutting out the Ducks three zero halfway through the
second period.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch much. Yes, Jason
Smith Mike Harmer for the Fox Sports Radio Studios. You
wear a sandwich board and stand out on Ventura Boulevard,
not happening. You know, I could probably get some Hawks. Oh,
I could probably get some Hawks.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Maybe only a few people would throw food at me
or like a drink, you know, but I would.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Get more Hawks.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Well then Laker fans throwing food.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
At me, yeah, oh they would. I guess absolutely. I
would not throw foods. I'd want to eat it, not
going to throw as they're driving.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know something.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Maybe I'll get some money, maybe maybe somebody makes it playing.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
You'll be planning some trees there, here's some money if
I have it called on, here's some money.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Now, that's gonna.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Be my Halloween costume next year.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I'm just gonna carry a tree put on.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Yes, that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
We're ready, We're ready.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Jason Smith Mike Harvin live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Coming on, as we get back into the biggest NBA
story of the day, Keep it right here, Jason and Mike. Fox.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (34:28):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon,
Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Two big stories
in the NBA today. Jannis potentially now looking for a
trade officially he gets hurt tonight calf strain. We'll have
more on that with Rick Buker coming up in about
(34:49):
a half hour. But elsewhere, Chris Paul is now looking
for the final place he can go to to finish
his NBA career. Yeah uh Paul, who would previous announced
is gonna be his final year in the NBA year
twenty one for him? This is it was waived by
the Clippers last night at three o'clock in the morning.
Yeah Clippers GM Lawrence Frank putting out the statement today.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah yeah, uh, we.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Got a roster change. Chris Paul is no longer with
the team, was sent home from their road trip, and
now Chris Paul, who knows what he's got left for
the rest of this year. Very curious set of circumstances, right,
and playing time in the what mid teens for his minutes.
A lot of scuttle butt floating today of how vocal.
(35:34):
He'd been talked about it a little bit last hour.
When you get into the you know, you can only
be as loud as your talent allows you. And when
you're no longer the guy, maybe you don't get to
talk as much, even if you are the elder statesman.
But many people upset that he didn't get all the
flowers and the going away party. Well, and that's the reason,
because you could throw this Yet it's weird. It's weird,
(35:55):
it's it's sad, it's it's it's clippers, it's clip.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
What do I say all the time? You can't escape
your identity. Maybe you can lose it for a few
years and say, hey, I found a way to escape that,
that identity that has just dogged me for the last
thirty years. But eventually you come back to it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
The Clippers, Look, they were the bottom of the barrel
for the NBA for so long. They were an embarrassing franchise.
And Steve Balmer comes in and guess what that the
high line highlife for a little bit, right. They went out,
they they bought, got a couple of superstars. Things were
looking okay, spotlights come on, I mean they went out,
they were competing in the Western Conference. They were potentially
(36:37):
just a couple of plays away here and there from
moving on. Instead, they blow three to one.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Leads likes to do just the way he phrases that.
Yes they are members of the Western members of the
Western Conference. Yes they were right.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
But you had the beginning of Lob City and and
and Blake Griffin and Chris Paul, and then you had
the segue into what we've had the last few years
with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and now James hard Okay,
you had you had the fast Lane, you would say,
we have a new we have the into It Dome,
we have our own place to play. Balmers taking a
really bad situation turn into something positive. But now they're
(37:13):
back to be in the Clippers again. Now they're back
to being the embarrassing Clippers because they're terrible. They made
bad decisions coming into this year. You can't go double
and triple down on thirty five year old guys in basketball.
I don't know why you kept feeling we kept keep
having to give Kawhi Leonard money. You got to keep
giving James Harden money. That's not gonna buy you championships.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You don't. You don't build a foundation around guys in
their mid to late thirties and expect to win. And
now you have to deal with a very old Clipper
headline because it look, there's millennials and gen z people
that don't remember the whole Clipper era before Steve Balmer
took over. But now when you fire somebody in the
middle of the night, when you at three am, you
decide we're sending you home. And this is how a
(37:54):
guy that came back to the team because for some
reason he wanted to end here. He wanted to end
with the Clippers, right like, don't you want to end
some plate, No, I want to end with the Clippers. Okay,
that couldn't even go well, and that the team had
to cut them in the middle of the night, in
the middle of the season. This is the Clippers. Hey,
all right, we're back to be in that Clipper franchise
(38:16):
that you knew for a really long time. And we
were playing at the fore and we were playing at
the Sports Arena. We couldn't make the playoffs. It was embarrassing.
We had embarrassing Clipper headlines every five seconds. Oh yeah, yeah, no,
they're back there. Now officially they had that time away.
They had they had the nice ten year run where hey,
maybe the Clippers can really become one of the next
great teams in the NBA. Get out of the Lakers shadow, No, no, no,
(38:39):
Now that we're smack Dad, back to being the old Clippers. Well,
but at least this one's about basketball. I mean, let's
let's go through the history. New Orleans, Clippers, Houston, Okay,
see Phoenix, Golden State, San Antonio. Back to Clippers for
what was supposed to be the final run. You've got
the quote from from James Harden. Me too, woke up
(39:00):
and saw it on social media. I'm just as confused
and shocked as you guys. The world definitely surprised me,
but not just Chris. It's a lot we're dealing with,
but that's out of my hands. So James Harden saying,
can I get out too?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Maybe he's got.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Palmer is a liar. Let me say it again, Steve
Balmer is a liar. Does he have a long enough
break that he can go do a shoe thing in
China and yell it for the guy in the back?
Let me yell it again. I don't want to be here,
But think about it. It's back to basketball because earlier
it was about this tree and we make the little
obligatory shots about the Kawhi Leonard ideas of cap circumvention,
(39:40):
and you know what, it went nowhere because every team's
got some skeletons in the closet related to that and
they don't want it pushed. So that goes back. So
now we're back to the basketball business of all right,
what else? How bad could it be if it's a
guy calling you and challenging you just to do your
job and that makes him a villain. Hey, I don't
need Chris yelling at me, man, that's Clippers. Look, he
(40:01):
wasn't talking to Tylo. They weren't getting along, so yeah,
you gotta go. Several weeks since he talked to Tylo,
evidently you gotta go. He wanted a meeting and he
told to beat it.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
All of this last seven eight minutes could be just
filed under one word Clippers. Clippers. Clippers. They're back to
being the Clipper. They had a nice run.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
They never left being there, nice break. No never left,
but people embraced them for a minute. Now they're shoving
them away. Coming up next, we'll preview the biggest Thursday
night football game of the year. Fox
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Then, welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. We'll have more
NBA on the way, more drama with Giannis, Chris Paul.
But I don't know that anybody had a worse day
than Mike Tomlin. I mean I don't know, man, I
mean there's bad days. Chris Paul certainly bad day. Well,
(00:51):
they didn't lose again, No, nobody actually asked him any
questions about what Aaron Rodgers had to say. Yeah, but
when you had two of.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
The greatest players to ever put on Steeler uniforms say
that you're not a great coach.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And you should be fired.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yet, it's not a great day for you, man, Not
that we not that we thought Ben Roethlisberger, James Harrison
and And and Mike Tomlin were best budds.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
No going out and hanging out.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But you know when you hear that that that's still
a pretty bad day for you.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well but I mean Tomlin had been reading it in
Ed Buschett's columns for years, so I mean this is
nothing new.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
H H.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
The relationship between Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Tomlin was never
a warm and fuzzy one, but it worked.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
They were able to win. It's a lot of winning.
They were able to do it, win the Super Bowl.
You know, it's a it's a really you got to
hand it to both those guys and all the guys
that played to get to and win super Bowls when
he the coach and the quarterback were not best friends.
But we can still find a way to get through it.
But now that Mike Tomlin is circling the drain, like
I feel like Mike Tomlin is is uh is walking
(01:58):
along and and like you hear that noises buzzards you
know ahead like going, I got a dead man walking
right here. This is he's getting He's getting fired. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
The buzzards, the buzzard just circling and will Arnett is
singing from ice age food, glorious food. There has been
no more momentum towards Mike Tomlin being fired or reached
some sort of agreement to let good to be let
go from the Steelers than it is right now. Look,
we talked about this in the preseason, you know, we say,
(02:28):
ahead of the curve, you understand that this was going
to be the last year for Tomlin, that the twenty
twenty four season was barely enough with the strategy they
had and Tomlin's belief and I know what we need
to do with the quarterbacks, and boy did it end
badly with Russell Wilson. So now this year, even though
he got his contract extended, Look, Steels do things the
(02:50):
right way. We're not going to have a guy in
a lame duck kind of situation.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We're going to do this. It's not not a good
way to do business.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But you knew that this was going to be it.
And now the Steelers are absolutely floundering. They decide we're
going to go the cheap route for a quarterback again
with Aaron Rodgers, and it's not working. And now you
know that, Okay, what's gonna happen at the end of
the year. Ben Roethlisberger on the Footballing podcast Former Steelers legend,
Who is again? We say that, I say this about
Roethlisberger all the time. A network's going to hire him
(03:18):
and they're going to have the next great antalyst. K
I said the two best guys, right were Cam Newton
and Ben Roethlisberger. And who's making a lot of headlines
now that he's been brought on as a full time analyst,
Cam Newton?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Right, I told you these two guys. So here's Roethlisberger
on his football and podcast, not just trolling Mike Tomlin,
but he actually has an idea for another job. Yeah,
if he would leave the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's being talked.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
About around here a lot. Maybe it's time, Maybe it's
a cleanhouse time. Maybe it is. Maybe it's time. And
I like coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect
coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best for him too. Maybe
a fresh start for him is what's best, whether that's
in the pros, whether.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what
he was doing Penn's eight. He'll probably go win national championships.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Legit, because he wouldn't have a losing season.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now he wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, but the synapses were firing really fast, and heytend
out that sounds like a great That sounds like Roethlisberger
trying to find a way to say, listen, the Pittsburgh
Steelers need new leadership, and they do.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
They just need a new voice at this point, right,
you need a new voice. And you think, okay, well,
here's Roethlisberger saying a nice thing about it. No, no,
he's saying, you need to go back to knowing full well,
going back to college after you're coaching, you're Bill Belichick
now with that without the girlfriend like this is it's
it's embarrassing for an NFL head coach to say, Okay,
now I have nothing else to do but go back
(04:41):
to college. And now I'm gonna I've been to the
head coach and I have won super Bowls, but now
the best place for me is to go back to college.
This is Roethlisberger completely stomping on Mike Tomlin because he
can and say, hey, listen, you know everybody sees it.
Now here's Mike Tomlin, who maybe go back win national championships.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, no, no, he is still trolling the crap out of
Tomlin with that. Yeah, maybe go to college take over
for James Franklin.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I mean it's something we've talked about in terms of
the Penn State job and nobody what's that word wants
it or phraseology, I guess. But for for Mike Tomlin, look,
he's still better than how many coaches, right, We'll still
put him up on the pantheon of great motivators coaches
because it's all blends back together, right, the x's and
(05:29):
o's versus getting guys to rise up in a seventeen
game season, it still gets it done. So you're under
contract through twenty twenty seven. So I don't think he's
walking away from it. I think they either come to
a nice, big buyout or they trade him, right, because
there's plenty of places Giants are the one that we've
(05:50):
been talking about quite a bit of that's like personality fit. Yeah, right,
it's not going to be. It's not going to be
You're out the day after all of a sudden he
gets called into an office. No on, It's also the Steelers, right,
you know, we were talking about the Chris Paul situation before.
It's like you gotta have a fall guy, right, and
when you're the star, you have a much larger voice.
If you're a role player, you're not for the Steelers.
(06:12):
It's just always the curiosity to me, it's like do
the gms really do anything? Or do they do what
he tells them to?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So like that dynamic is curious to me. What does
Omar Khan? What's his culpability in how this roster is constructed?
Because we went through some of the salaries yesterday, find
the full conversation of the podcast to you know, compartmentalize
and shrink it down for bite sized consumption. Here, you know,
your top four guys are defenders and as a collective
(06:39):
they make about seventy million dollars, two of whom are
well north of thirty. In terms of you know where
they're at and their football timelines. You're seeing it week
to week. You have no idea what you're getting from
that side of the ball, what kind of pass rush
you're getting, what kind of opportunity. I mean, look at
the Bears just ran all over them, just just like
(07:01):
there was no heart at all when they when they
played them. But we look at just the opportunity for
the Steelers, and for Tomlin to recognize all the wind
streak is great, like you can't just diminish it because
it's it's unlike anything we've seen. But at some point
you got to have the postseason success and and that's
(07:22):
long been bandied about and long just debated about where
Tomlin is. But for the veterans, the legends of the
organization to be like, yeah, here's your here's your kind
of you know, they should go. And for Penn State,
I mean, it's not a terrible idea on the grand
scale because that is what he's always cited as, right,
the recruiter, the motivator. Wait, he's a great recruit. He's
(07:42):
been coaching in the NFL for twenty years. You're tom
and he's a great recruiter. We each got to come.
It's not like he's Harbaugh where he just came from
college football.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I mean, he's a great but it came over twenty years.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
But I think part of that is just the personality,
not necessarily the bring you into the building, but keep
you engaged, because that's the other part of recruiting now, right,
we talk about in college all the time with the
amount of ability and flow where You only have these
guys basically for a year before they want to leave.
Can you You got them for four months on campus
and you have to keep them happy the entire time,
(08:12):
their families, their hangers on, their managers and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Can you imagine him saving money with Penn State by
going after like a two star quarterback. Hey, listen, we
don't want to.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
You saw what I did in the pros with Fields
and Wilson and Rogers five star guys.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
At you're a two star guy. We're not gonna really
give you a lot of nil money.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
We're gonna We're just gonna make it work with you, Okay.
But that's where it always gets. We get into this
weird spot because I mean, you're a Jets guy, like
right now, on on top of the world of what
the Bears are doing. But I've watched it for years.
It's been a disaster right quarterback after quarterback after quarterback
and no winning to go with it with the Steelers
since Roethlisberger left, no matter how bad, and you can
(08:51):
run through them, it's a laundry list, not as long
as the jerseys that go around Cleveland that look like capes.
At this point, forty two quarterbacks since nineteen nine United
started a game. You're not quite to that level, but
they still end up on the plus side of five
hundred every year. It's like, that's just wrong. Like, at
no point has it truly bitten him in the ass,
(09:12):
or the GM or just the Rudy family as a whole.
It's like, Eh, we're still cruising alone right in the
meady part of the curve all the time. Now, before
we tell you how this is gonna end, you got
to hear from James Harrison, who look one of the
great linebackers in Pittsburgh Steeler history, enjoyed the best years
of his career when he played for Mike Tomlin. Yeah,
(09:34):
he's also not shedding tears for the Steelers head coach.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You tell me where there's a good coach on this staff,
because right now I don't see anybody planning at their potential.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Mike Dommlin is in control of hiring.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Coaches, and he may not be the one coaching the position,
but he is in position to hire the coaches to
get the potential.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Of our players.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
And right now he has not put coaches in the
position that can get the potential out of what it
is that we have. Something has to be done, Bro.
And I know the Stillers historically don't move on from coaches,
but I think it's time the history be made, because
(10:23):
right now the only history room making is being the
worst Pittsburgh still a team statistically almost in the history
of the organization.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So there's James Harten, very very emotional, James Harrison there.
Great coaches get players to play to their potential. That's
not happening now. Look, this is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Mike tomlins last year in Pittsburgh, and it's not going
to end with a big firing the day after. It
will end very.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
As amicably as possible, where both sides agree it's time
for him to move on, or they could potentially. I
don't see the trade happen because then it gets really
messy in that kind of situation where it's gonna be, Hey,
we do things the right way, we're gonna part you
know whatever. They figure out the money that you know,
and he's gonna go and he will go someplace because
you can't unring this bell that's been out there for
(11:19):
so long that Tomlin has passed his expiration date. When
you have fans channing fire Tomlin at the games, and
when you have fans booing when they play Renegade in
the fourth quarter to psych up the defense and fans
are booing it, you know, Okay, we need change with
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
We can't. We can't go forward with this again.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
We can't. We're just it's the everybody is upset. We're
in a bad place, and quite honestly, you need a
new voice. It can get you to the modern era
of football because Tomlin is still he's trying to win
like it's nineteen eighty five with with a necessary evil
at quarterback and we're not gonna go crazy for talent
wise guys. But because I had my fill with Roethlisberger
and Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell and all those guys.
(12:00):
I mean, he's tried to go cheap on quarterbacks and
he's tried to not bring in guys that that could
have a diva type attitude that would rest try to
fight him for control of the team. But this is
kind of how you win in the NFL with talented
quarterback and a dynamic offense, right, Like what they do
in the offseason went out and they bulked up defensively
and they you know they extended, guys, we're gonna run
the football, run the footbron you don't win that way.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Hey, they just brought in Adam Deelin and they let
Darius Slay go and bring in guys that were good
five years ago. Yeah. But but that that's the whole
thing is is that you need you need to get
into what the modern era twenty twenty five is for
football in the NFL. And and the Steelers are not it, man,
they are not. They are. But it comes back to
the discussion of winning versus winning again. You know, you
(12:42):
and I look at that and go, man, I wish
I had that every year. I wish I was complaining
that my team was, even if it's every year is
a game about five hundred, I'd like to be in
that stratosphere to where I'm playing meaning like this is
the first time the Bears are playing meaningful football in
December and not meaningful for somebody else. Okay, So for Pittsburgh,
(13:04):
you know you want a bit more for James Harrison.
You're in his voice. Look, as soon as they hired
Arthur Smith, what did I tell you? Like, this offense
is no longer any hope they had was dead right,
because remember he had Bijohn Robinson in a box for
a years ago. We'll get, We'll get. He's gonna get
his touches.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
You never saw't. My He and Engineer Gives are the
two best running backs in the game. This guy kept
him in a box for a full year. But but
again for the GMS, they they got to answer some
questions in this process too, right of all, right, why
does he have complete control over everything in terms of
the quarterback position. But you've been able to win by
(13:43):
being on the cheap and spending your money elsewhere. The
league is turned. Now you have to decide, you know,
small W versus capitol W. You want to be that
great in the playoffs again.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, he'll be. It's too much momentum going that way.
And everybody he knows changes needed that.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And those fans were all mad that Sticks announced that
tour with Chicago. Is that is that what it was
all about?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean, come on, now, I'm gonna start playing come
sail Away in instead of rend of game.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
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Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh you're just knocking so many people out of wham
Mageddon right now?
Speaker 6 (15:17):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh people pay four God, people are gonna call tyser Go.
Come on, man, I don't listen to sports talk radio
to lose we Mageddon? What is the anniversary? So it
had to be playing?
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, doesn't mean people aren't gonna be upset.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
That's the reason they're upset. Sending along at swollen Domett.
How about a fresca if wamageddon and getting whammed? How far?
How far do you make it? Two days admitted to
the third I made it to Harmon and Smith Jerks
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
Live from the Tirec dot Com Studios. So big stuff
in the NFL today. Ben Roethlisberger and James harrit some
(16:00):
Steeler legends, both think Mike Tomlin should be coaching elsewhere.
James Harrison says he's not getting the most out of
his players. Ben Roethlisberger says maybe he can go coach
Penn State.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
We get a lot of crazy stuff we're dealing with,
and because of that, we bring in the craziest guy
we know.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Longtime NFL insider. Check him out of the thirty third team.
He is a Pro Football Hall of Very Good voter.
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. It is
Jason Cole. What's happening? Man?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Doo dooo dood boot there we go, get it fired up.
There's nothing better than the beginning of that song really
than the beginning of that song. So do you think
(16:53):
really that's just one of the greatest yeah blues guitar intros.
That's one of the grace that there is right there,
po po po.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So Hey.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So first year at Penn State Mike Tomlin nine wins,
eight wins. Would it be a bellt chick like the year?
What would that be?
Speaker 6 (17:15):
I think it might be with Miami and the Dolphins.
That might be a better hotch I don't think he's coaching.
Most guys in the NFL want no part of coaching
college college football.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, but Ben Roethiser wants him to coach Penn State.
That's why I feel Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Yeah, Ben Roethlisberger is an idiot who doesn't understand how
college football works. Right now, Okay, Ben Roethlisberger just says
whatever he wants to say because he thinks that it'll
you know, people actually pay attention to his moronic clock trap.
I mean, but I mean, come on, He's not anybody
who's in the NFL staying in the NFL as long
(17:50):
as they possibly can because nobody wants to deal with
having to recruit their players twenty four seven three sixty
five because once you get a kid, you're just waiting
for somebody else to pull for him. So yeah, Tomlin
doesn't weigh that. I mean, he's not kissing anybody's rear,
so no, that's not happening. He's going to end up
(18:10):
coaching in the NFL. At the very worst, he'll sit
out a year, he'll do television. They've degraded television, and
then he'll decide whether he wants to be a defensive
coordinator or wants to be a head coach again, because
he'll be jobs open for him. That's how that's going
to work.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
We already got him in Miami, you got him replace
in Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Yeah, absolutely, I would. Look, I think there's gonna be
some ready made jobs if he wants to, If he
walks away, if they split, whatever happens. Could it happen. Sure,
would it happen if Dan Rooney was a lot Probably not.
But I think if Danny was around, and you know, no,
this is not a shot at art running the second,
I don't want to do that. But yeah, I think
(18:50):
they probably would have figured out a solution by now.
At the same time, they went through a lot of
years with Chuck Noele at the end where they were
just kind of waiting it out to see to you know,
figure out what they were going to do next. And
even the early years of their Cower, I mean, Tommy
Maddox did god, you know, like come on, like so there,
(19:12):
you know what they have that Mike who was the
line to take them to the super Bowl again? So
it was a Tom Zack or what was his name?
I can't remember the guy's name. Who's a quarterback, Neil o'donalds. Yeah,
he was only slightly better with with the Steelers, you know,
(19:35):
like they went through a long time before they found
another you know, before they founded the franchise quarterback. And
that's their biggest problem. They got to find a franchise
quarterback and they haven't done it yet. So yeah, maybe
they'll do that with a new quarterback, and maybe they won't,
but their super Bowl history is written with franchise quarterback.
(19:55):
It's either Roethlisberger or Sports or Bradshaws. That's that's how
they win.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, just curiosity for me is just always the the GMS.
There seemed to be empty suits. Everything falls on Tomblin
in the outside world.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Oh no, no, no, that's not true. Are you talking
about in terms of blame.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I'm just talking about blame and how it's the perception
is that those guys don't do anything, so it all
just goes straight on Tomblin. In terms of this quarterback search.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yeah, but I mean Almark Conson that went three years
as the jam taken number for Kevin Colbert, so.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
He was in that building before that.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Though he was he was the cap guy. He was
not he was doing contracts. He wasn't. He wasn't picking players,
so you know understand what his role was. He was
not a scout, which may not portend to him being
able to take out a franchise quarterback. But his for
(20:52):
the Steelers is as much as we want to talk
about their consistency with with hold On Wan suck As No,
all right, I'm here. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I doubt if the Steelers were coming at me, but
Mike Tommin was at your house going, yeah, you say
that to my face, Jason Cole, it was it was.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Our rony on the call on the call right here again. Anyways,
as much as their history is about the consistency of
they're head coaching and the fact that they've made so
few changes. Yeah, A deeper look into it is it's
about the quarterback to have they had a franchise quarterback.
And when they have had a franchise quarterback, a truly
(21:33):
great player, they've won super Bowls because they've usually put
it with it and married that with a good defense
and it works out. Okay, that's that's how it goes
for them.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Jason Call our guest Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, so from there,
we take a look at Thursday Night football, the Cowboys
and the Lions and the Cowboy Bees and the Cowboys
offense and the and the way the Eagles have decidd.
We're just gonna play every other week. We have a
big game tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (22:03):
You they're not. They're not even playing every other week
every three weeks, like tailing card. Tailing car is like, yeah,
we're got to show. Oh we got a game today. Cool,
all right, thank you forgotten.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
It's Sunday.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Sunday. Stick up on me, man, they do.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Oh they do? Yeah, come on, man, I got some
road rage at Georgia. Look at my boy from New
Jersey helping me out in Georgia. Now, nobody. Nobody's gonna
get that line, are they Anyways? Yeah, the Eagles are confounding.
(22:43):
But to get them back to Dallas and Detroit, I'd
love to believe in Dallas, I really would. But how
many times have we seen this act and it's just goes,
you know, like just up in the smoke at some
point in time, Like it's like that bad and Candell
that you get on fourth of July and you lay
(23:04):
it and it just kind of sparks a little bit.
It sparks a little bit more, it smarks a little
bit more, and you're afraid to approach it because you
think it's going to explode at the moment that juice,
you go up to it, and then you walk up
to it and you realize, now there's nothing there. It's
just it's empty. It's it's gone, and you just pour
water on it and you move on. That's what the
(23:25):
Cowboys are. It really is what they are. They're just
a team five hundred and they happen to put a
couple of games together. And I know the Pickens and
Ceedee Lamb have been awesome and everybody wants to talk
about that. I don't trust this team. You know at all,
and I've seen this routine too many times over the
last thirty years. It just it's not happening. Sorry, don't.
(23:49):
I don't believe it, not one tiny little bit. And
we're just waiting for a George Pickens meltdown, which is
about to happen anytime when he realizes when Jerry Jones walked, yeah,
I think we're gonna have some franchise. Yeah, George, I
just don't see that kind of big contract because we
were doing that for my cup and now we just
you know, we're just not doing that. We're just gonna
(24:11):
we're just gonna move on them. So we're gonna franchise
you and pick things. We'll just literally explode. If he
hears the word franchise tag the two words franchise, we
will literally explode, explode.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
You have to stop the run. We're gonna play five.
We're gonna keep playing five defensive linemen, uh whenever we
want to, because you know, if you realize that, boy,
we kind of stoked up at the position. So uh,
that's kind of our strategy going forward. Thank you, Good
morning to you.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna play Clinton understanding that. How does
it feel like you. Actually the Jets turned the Cowboys
into contenders. How does that feel for you?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know, I feel like, hey, you know the Jets
that you know they can do something right once in
a while.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Somebody else that's right, X.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Jet now good? Uh, next level. By the way, Jerry
Jones walking to his press availability on say with a
turkey or Thursday said, with a turkey leg in his
hand might have might have been peak Jerry Jones.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Oh yeah, it was plastic. I give Jerry. You know,
nobody front runs like like Jerry Jones, not at least
not in sports. Maybe in politics, and I won't say who,
but nobody nobody front runs like Jerry Jones. He's greatest.
Which is all part of the magic, It's all part
(25:27):
of the act. It's like, yeah, we look like a
Super Bowl contender. I'm a genius. I'm just about to
tell you. Let's start writting those super Bowl techs steaming,
get on that right now. Get the travel plans. We
got a couple of hotels. We got we do. We've
got a couple of hotels already. We're you know, we're
gonna set up before tell all the wives and girlfriends
where we're going. To be staying so they can get
(25:48):
all the families take Yeah, I know we haven't finished
the season now, but we're going to plan for the
super Bowl thanks right now. Like they get ahead of
themselves every single time they win two games in a
row and all of a sudden, the print and super
Bowl tickets. That's how the Cowboys operate. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But here's the thing though, Jay called the Eagles seem
like they just can't wait for the season to end.
They look, this is like the Eagles at the end
of twenty twenty three, where they're crossing days off till
the end of the calendar. It's like you all go
home and not have to see each other every day.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
Well, they don't have any adults in the room anymore.
The adults in the room have all all left. Jason
Kels has gone Fletcher butlecher Cox is gone and brand
Graham quit for a while, so he doesn't really count.
I mean, so like anybody who can stand up and
tell Jalen, hey, Jayleen, can you cut that out or
(26:39):
look at aj and go a j we know that
you hate the quarterback. We don't care. Shut up right, No,
there's nobody around to do that. There's nobody around to
police the locker room. There's nobody bigger egos, there's you
know again, there's no adults in the room. And that
was that was the duty of Fletcher Cox, Jason Kel's,
(27:00):
Ryan Graham when he was around, and some of the
other older guys not around. Lane Johnson's not even there
to to really, you know, clean up and you know,
take somebody new task. And Jordan my Lot is as
good a guy as he is, he ain't gonna do it.
He's just not that guy.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I wanted to see how far back you were going
to go.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Jaworski's not there to keep everybody on.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Michaels, no, no, Harold Carmichael, Wilbert Montgomery.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Is not there. No, not, not there to do anything.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
No no, no, no, no, no, Chuck but Noark, no, nope,
uh no.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Jackson's not there.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
No no, no Van Brock one no no.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Steve van Buren, No, Steve van Buren is not there either, No, no, not.
We're just gonna keep going all the way back.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Let me ask you one to the other question.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Two years, one year last year and the other one
the year before. Kind of out was I'm going to
back to ancient times talking about Kelsey and cock.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Dick for me, is not there anymore. It's not happening. Lord, hey,
let me ask you this, since so where is us?
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Which one of you said Wilbert Montgomery today?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I said, Wilbert Montgomery. I said, well, well, we both
we jinxed ourselves by both saying Harold Carmichael at the same.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Time bringing back zach Er snick fole.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Zach ERTs still playing making big catches in Washington. Marion
Campbell's out there, he's not walking through that door. Sure, hey,
really quickly, do Belichick, Inductor.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Mary and Campbell. Mary. Campbell was not with the Eagle
the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
No, he was that coach of the Eagles. Yeah, I'm
positive Marion Campbell's head coach of the Eagles.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
I was coach of the Falcons. Weak. We're gonna we
have Frostburg. What's we're going? All? Right, arm you got
a question, you think it's important. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Very quickly. Do Robert Craft and Bill Belichick come to
blows when they're both inducted into the Hall together.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
It's gonna be so great, It would be so great
to have this. The problem is, but if the seniors
getting the way of this, only one guy may get in.
I think that would be Belichick, right, But do you
think that's all right?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
You're you're going to completely keep Belichick out. I mean
we're counting on you for that.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
No, to put Belichick in. I was on the I
was on the coach committee.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
No, you lose a sandwich for your three year, three
sandwich deal.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
You lose a sandwich in the negotiations. Call Scott Boroughs
is my guy. He's my new guy that was not
in the deal. He's renegotiating my next my next sandwich contract.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Marion Campbell, head coach of the Atlanta Falcons from eighty
seven to eighty nine, head coach of the Eagles from
eighty three to eighty five.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Wow and birds. Okay, very good, Okay, good, good memory
for you there. So anyways, getting back to you know,
the somewhat rolevant point to check and craft. I'm hoping
so this I really am hoping. But you know the
problem is that the way the system is built, and
(30:06):
last year it happened. You know, we only got Sterling
sharp in our five guys. So you know, this year
we have three very good senior candidates in Roger Craig, L. C.
Greenwood and Ken Anderson, and every bit of the votes
(30:28):
that they take away take away from me the chance
to get you know, eighty percent for both Belichick and Craft.
Because you only have one hundred and fifty votes, they
have to get forty. Again, I'm figuring that Belichick gets
at least forty, and then the question is, out of
that remaining one hundred and ten votes, how's that going
(30:51):
to be split? Is Craft's going to be able to
get forty of those votes? That's that's a really tough
part because those two deserve to get in, and they
should go in and prankically. They should go in together
and have to deal with each.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Other, present, have to present each other, have to present
each other in. That's how it should go. He's on
Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two as at Jason Cole sixty.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Two, go Aztex dude.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
All right, that'd be awesome. They're presenting each other on
the way in. It's time how to find out what's
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Speaker 8 (31:24):
Hey, guys, we will start in the NFL week fourteen
kicks off Thank You with Thursday Night football between the
Lions and the Cowboys. Detroit wide receiver Alvin Rossay Brown
is questionable. Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert says that the plan
is for him to play Monday night against the Eagles now.
He did have a plate and multiple screws put in
to repair his fractured left hand. The Browns have opened
(31:46):
the twenty one day practice window four quarterback Deshan Watson,
and the Buccaneers opened the twenty one day practice window
for wide receiver Mike Evans, who also practiced today. When
it comes to the NBA, the agent for Buckstar Young
Santete Kumpo, initiated talks with the team's front office over
the future of the two time MVP with the organization,
and then in today's game, Janna Santa Toakompo left in
(32:07):
the first quarter due to a non contact injury, who
was ruled out with the right CAF strain. Bucks were
down eighteen but came came back to defeat the Pistons
one thirteen to one oh nine. Cooper Flag had twenty
two points. The Mavericks topped the heat one eighteen to
oneh eight. Clippers no longer on a losing streak, now
on a winning streak.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
They beat the Hawks.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
One fifteen to ninety two.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Jardy I had to get rid of it is morning,
all that positivity in the locker room back right now?
Okay uh.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
The Spurs stop the Magic one fourteen to one oh two.
Darren Fox dropped thirty one points, including hitting the final
two free throws to give them the win.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
But it was Jamal Murray's night.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
He dropped fifty two points in Indiana and the Nuggets
defeated the Pacers won thirty five to one twenty. In
men's college hoops, two schools suffered their first loss today.
That was number twenty two Indiana, who lost to Minnesota
seventy three to sixty four, and number twenty five Arkansas
defeated number six.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Louisville eighty nine to eighty.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
There's two NHL games still going on. The Capitals are
shutting out the Sharks five zero late in the second period.
Alex Soovechkin has already scored two goals, so he's up
to nine hundred and eleven career goals, and the Mammoth
are shutting out the Ducks three zero halfway through the
second period.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch much. Yes, Jason
Smith Mike Harmer for the Fox Sports Radio Studios. You
wear a sandwich board and stand out on Ventura Boulevard,
not happening. You know, I could probably get some Hawks. Oh,
I could probably get some Hawks.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Maybe only a few people would throw food at me
or like a drink, you know, but I would.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Get more Hawks.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Well then Laker fans throwing food.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
At me, yeah, oh they would. I guess absolutely. I
would not throw foods. I'd want to eat it, not
going to throw as they're driving.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know something.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Maybe I'll get some money, maybe maybe somebody makes it playing.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
You'll be planning some trees there, here's some money if
I have it called on, here's some money.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Now, that's gonna.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Be my Halloween costume next year.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I'm just gonna carry a tree put on.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Yes, that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
That's it.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
We're ready, We're ready.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Jason Smith Mike Harvin live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Coming on, as we get back into the biggest NBA
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Speaker 2 (34:20):
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Speaker 1 (34:28):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon,
Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Two big stories
in the NBA today. Jannis potentially now looking for a
trade officially he gets hurt tonight calf strain. We'll have
more on that with Rick Buker coming up in about
(34:49):
a half hour. But elsewhere, Chris Paul is now looking
for the final place he can go to to finish
his NBA career. Yeah uh Paul, who would previous announced
is gonna be his final year in the NBA year
twenty one for him? This is it was waived by
the Clippers last night at three o'clock in the morning.
Yeah Clippers GM Lawrence Frank putting out the statement today.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah yeah, uh, we.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Got a roster change. Chris Paul is no longer with
the team, was sent home from their road trip, and
now Chris Paul, who knows what he's got left for
the rest of this year. Very curious set of circumstances, right,
and playing time in the what mid teens for his minutes.
A lot of scuttle butt floating today of how vocal.
(35:34):
He'd been talked about it a little bit last hour.
When you get into the you know, you can only
be as loud as your talent allows you. And when
you're no longer the guy, maybe you don't get to
talk as much, even if you are the elder statesman.
But many people upset that he didn't get all the
flowers and the going away party. Well, and that's the reason,
because you could throw this Yet it's weird. It's weird,
(35:55):
it's it's sad, it's it's it's clippers, it's clip.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
What do I say all the time? You can't escape
your identity. Maybe you can lose it for a few
years and say, hey, I found a way to escape that,
that identity that has just dogged me for the last
thirty years. But eventually you come back to it.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
The Clippers, Look, they were the bottom of the barrel
for the NBA for so long. They were an embarrassing franchise.
And Steve Balmer comes in and guess what that the
high line highlife for a little bit, right. They went out,
they they bought, got a couple of superstars. Things were
looking okay, spotlights come on, I mean they went out,
they were competing in the Western Conference. They were potentially
(36:37):
just a couple of plays away here and there from
moving on. Instead, they blow three to one.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Leads likes to do just the way he phrases that.
Yes they are members of the Western members of the
Western Conference. Yes they were right.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
But you had the beginning of Lob City and and
and Blake Griffin and Chris Paul, and then you had
the segue into what we've had the last few years
with Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and now James hard Okay,
you had you had the fast Lane, you would say,
we have a new we have the into It Dome,
we have our own place to play. Balmers taking a
really bad situation turn into something positive. But now they're
(37:13):
back to be in the Clippers again. Now they're back
to being the embarrassing Clippers because they're terrible. They made
bad decisions coming into this year. You can't go double
and triple down on thirty five year old guys in basketball.
I don't know why you kept feeling we kept keep
having to give Kawhi Leonard money. You got to keep
giving James Harden money. That's not gonna buy you championships.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You don't. You don't build a foundation around guys in
their mid to late thirties and expect to win. And
now you have to deal with a very old Clipper
headline because it look, there's millennials and gen z people
that don't remember the whole Clipper era before Steve Balmer
took over. But now when you fire somebody in the
middle of the night, when you at three am, you
decide we're sending you home. And this is how a
(37:54):
guy that came back to the team because for some
reason he wanted to end here. He wanted to end
with the Clippers, right like, don't you want to end
some plate, No, I want to end with the Clippers. Okay,
that couldn't even go well, and that the team had
to cut them in the middle of the night, in
the middle of the season. This is the Clippers. Hey,
all right, we're back to be in that Clipper franchise
(38:16):
that you knew for a really long time. And we
were playing at the fore and we were playing at
the Sports Arena. We couldn't make the playoffs. It was embarrassing.
We had embarrassing Clipper headlines every five seconds. Oh yeah, yeah, no,
they're back there. Now officially they had that time away.
They had they had the nice ten year run where hey,
maybe the Clippers can really become one of the next
great teams in the NBA. Get out of the Lakers shadow, No, no, no,
(38:39):
Now that we're smack Dad, back to being the old Clippers. Well,
but at least this one's about basketball. I mean, let's
let's go through the history. New Orleans, Clippers, Houston, Okay,
see Phoenix, Golden State, San Antonio. Back to Clippers for
what was supposed to be the final run. You've got
the quote from from James Harden. Me too, woke up
(39:00):
and saw it on social media. I'm just as confused
and shocked as you guys. The world definitely surprised me,
but not just Chris. It's a lot we're dealing with,
but that's out of my hands. So James Harden saying,
can I get out too?
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Maybe he's got.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Palmer is a liar. Let me say it again, Steve
Balmer is a liar. Does he have a long enough
break that he can go do a shoe thing in
China and yell it for the guy in the back?
Let me yell it again. I don't want to be here,
But think about it. It's back to basketball because earlier
it was about this tree and we make the little
obligatory shots about the Kawhi Leonard ideas of cap circumvention,
(39:40):
and you know what, it went nowhere because every team's
got some skeletons in the closet related to that and
they don't want it pushed. So that goes back. So
now we're back to the basketball business of all right,
what else? How bad could it be if it's a
guy calling you and challenging you just to do your
job and that makes him a villain. Hey, I don't
need Chris yelling at me, man, that's Clippers. Look, he
(40:01):
wasn't talking to Tylo. They weren't getting along, so yeah,
you gotta go. Several weeks since he talked to Tylo,
evidently you gotta go. He wanted a meeting and he
told to beat it.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
All of this last seven eight minutes could be just
filed under one word Clippers. Clippers. Clippers. They're back to
being the Clipper. They had a nice run.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
They never left being there, nice break. No never left,
but people embraced them for a minute. Now they're shoving
them away. Coming up next, we'll preview the biggest Thursday
night football game of the year. Fox
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