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I am subscribing to a TCU blowout. Yeah, forty one
fourteen the lead over North Carolina, and it's gotten to

(01:14):
the point in the program where ESPN is saying, Okay,
let's unload all the flavor stuff we had about Belichick
and his dad and his kid. Let's see all let's
see all the old video. Now it's a fourth quarter
of a forty point game. Let's show all the great
interesting stuff so people will stay and watch the rest
of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I thought they unloaded all of that in the one
hour pregame LoveFest before this kickoff. You know, as you mentioned,
TCU was not a bad team last year. They came
in here favored on the road. I didn't expect to
blow out. Quite honestly, It's forty one fourteen TCU with
about ten and a half minutes to go, and they're
driving again into the red zone. But my goodness, has

(01:51):
this been lopsided? Just ridiculously so. After the tar Heels
opening drive TD TCU down to the one yard.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Line right now. Yeah, look what we talked about this
beginning of last hour week came on and TCU jumps
out in the second half and they get a touchdown
early to make a twenty seven to seven. And look,
I wasn't surprised. I'm not surprised, right, I'm not surprised
that TCU is winning this game this this much because
you know, now forty one fourteen, Yeah, that's the thing.
But it's not surprised. But TCU was dominating because you know,

(02:19):
all the pageantry aside, now all the bits and here's
Belichick and oh my goodness, and here's Belichick and his
kid in Belichick and Belichick and Belichick, all the attention. Uh,
you know, TCU is still an eight win team and
they were, you know, one game away from potentially being
a playoff team last year. And North Carolina is a
mid Acson program right at best. So I mean, you know,

(02:42):
six and six, okay, you know it's still six wins.
However you want to you know, said like, they're a
mid program at best, and so you know when they
came in. Honestly, the big surprise to me was the
fact that, wow, North Carolina goes down the field and
scores right away. Suddenly you know, all the all the
the narrative of look at Belichick right this. The dangers
of live tweeting a game when you want to just
get out there. I can't wait to talk.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I told you Belichick could be great. I told you
look at him. Everybody's looking up at Belichick. He's gonna
be in the playoff.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
That is not just a freezing cold take. It is
free It's like immediately a bad take touchdown TCU. By
the way, extra Foyd'll make it forty eight to fourteen
at North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, I'd mean, look, I'm not surprised they're winning this
game because they are the better team. And I will
say this, okay about motivation. Right, we made a big
comparison last hour or two. No matter what happens tonight,
North Carolina is the a story of the year in
college football because of Bill Belichick, just like Dion and
Colorado was in twenty three. You have famous alum showing

(03:44):
up at the game showing all kinds of support. Right.
We saw it in Colorado, We see it tonight here
in North Carolina. Even even players who played for Belichick
and didn't go to North Carolina are there like it's
that kind that's that kind of story. The same kind
of energy surrounds North Carolina and Belichick surrounded Colorado and
Deon Sanders when Deon Sanders and Colorado burst on the

(04:04):
scene in twenty twenty three, right that big forty five
forty two win Week one of the regular season where
Travis Yunder was great and Shador Sanders was great. It
was against these TCU horn Foggs. You don't think that
was a big part of the discussion going into the game.
You don't think that was a big thing. Hey, two
years ago, same spot we were, so everybody's talking about

(04:26):
this other team and the coach and what happened. The
spotlight was too bright force. We should have won that game.
I mean, you play that game at the end of
the year, you're like, wow, man, we should have won
that game by fifty. So I guarantee you that was
a little bit more extra set of motivation for TCU
coming into this, just because two years ago we saw
this exact same thing. We're making sure we're not on
the other side of that tonight.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
You know what, North Carolina's on the other side of
tonight of whooping and absolute whooping for fourteen I mean,
it could not have gone worse. Well, okay, that's if
there wasn't an opening touchdown to talk about.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I guess I don't even gonna say they were on
the opposite side of winning. I thought, that's your well set.
That is an understatement, the understatement of the night. The
next two games are against Charlotte and Richmond. If they
don't beat Richmond by double digits, I mean, do you
just pulled up the tents and go home now? Because
I don't know. They don't play most of the good
teams in the ACC this year. They do have to

(05:22):
play Clemson in about a month. I mean, what is
this season going to be looking like? Well? Look, and
that's the that's the big takeaway from this now, and
that in one in one game or really well, since
the opening drive of this game, it's gone from North
Carolina comes into this game, look at their schedule, right,
they have Clemson, but that's it. Everybody else looks like

(05:43):
they could be beatable, right, they don't play that. And
that's the big thing that people forget now about college
football with the expanded teams and there's you know, twenty
five teams in each of the big conferences, is that
you can't play everybody, and you miss everybody. And while
certain matchups are always going to be tried and true, Michigan,
Ohio State always gonna play Michigan's gonna play Penn State,
or House they'll play PA which is not really fair.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Has already said their schedule starting next year, you're gonna
play this set of opponents and just rotate every couple
of years with the others. You can't play everybody, and
it is an expanded playoffs, so a team like SMU
can pile up the wins and like last year, get
into the postseason.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
So when when you understand that, it's like, Okay, here's
here's North Carolina schedule, right, Charlotte next week, Richmond, Central Florida, Clemson,
cal Virginia, Syracuse, Stanford, Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina State, Like,
these are all games that you would think in theory
they're winnable. Now you don't know, Hey, what is Syracuse
gonna look like at the end of October? What's you know,

(06:43):
what's Duke gonna look like at the end you know,
early in November? Right, you don't know, but right now, hey,
North Carolina a mid program. All right, this is a
very easy schedule, and you have to take advantage of
easy schedules. Right, It's how you how did Indiana get
to the playoff. Last year, boy, we played nobody. We
played a Michigan team that didn't have a quarterback. They
direct snapped it to Mullings and that was how they
got down the field, right, So that's how they get

(07:05):
into the playoffs. So all of a sudden, Belichick the
narrative kind of flipped to, hey, here he is. We're
ready for the season. They've been drama free for the summer, right,
not a lot of Jordan Hudson stuff. There's been two
and a half months of Okay, we gotta make sure
we're getting ready for the year, and there can't be
any more any more distractions, any more bad storylines to
what's going on here. So now you look at the schedule, go, wow,

(07:28):
this could really be a year where maybe just North
Carolina win ten games, can they sneak into the playoff?
Because you know, Bill Belichick is gonna get the benefit
of the doubt if his team is really good, right, Okay, Belichick,
of course're gonna let Beelichick in the playoffs. Now, it's
the flip side of it, and I know it's one game,
but it's one game where you are getting boat raced
by a team that yeah, they're better than you, and

(07:49):
they're good, but are they this much better? And so
suddenly now all of the old worries you had about
North Carolina coming into this year now they're even worse,
right because you had Belichick coming in? How long is
he really there for? Does he want to jump to
the NFL again? The headlines with Jordan Hudson, A lot
of chaos supposedly at the school, A lot of a

(08:10):
lot of drama involving the the the the upper offices
of college football at North Carolina and and Belichick and
what he's doing and how the recruiting is going. There's
a lot of hey, the jury is out right. But
then you get to this season and suddenly if it's
a year where you have an easy schedule and you

(08:30):
are the same, or you're worse. You're still a mid
program or you're worse. I mean, like it tells you
how long does Belichick have to win? I mean, I
get it's one game, but wow, this is one game
that you say, how the hell do you make this?
But the pressure to beat Charlotte next week is immense.
All of a sudden, you and see Charlotte could be
ending your season, Like how long does Belichick have coming

(08:53):
off of the drama? Because you can see how we'll
play at the end of the year. If North Carolina
is bad, who's gonna who's gonna say, Hey, i'm a
I want to go play for Belichick? You're thinking how
much longer is a guy really gonna be there? He's
seventy four years old. This season was a disaster. Am
I gonna get the recruits? They're all gonna go to
bigger schools in the ACC. I just saw what happened
this year. This is an absolute mess. Why am I

(09:15):
going to Belichick at North Carolina? And then suddenly, for
North Carolina's perspective, it's is this worth it? Right? Like?
Is this worth it? We spent a lot of money,
we went in on Belichick and now look at what
a disaster this season was. Is it time to have
a conversation about a joint moving on? And And I mean,
I know it's one game, but again, that's the stakes
right now and where that's sometimes how fast things can change,

(09:38):
especially in college football, And that's where we are right
now with this situation, is that this is just such
a bad thing for Belichick in North Carolina. You're saying,
how do you fix this? I mean, can you fix
this enough to where you can instill confidence that I'm
the guy to continue to turn this thing around at
North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
On paper to make something of this first season. And
granted there were not im mense expectations of the program
his first season in, but there were only so many
games on the paper schedule that said, you know, you
pretty much have to show in this game. I mean
it was a finite and minute amount, and this was
one of them. You had National TV all to yourself

(10:17):
because the NFL hasn't started yet, Monday Night Football was you.
And they're down forty eight to fourteen mid fourth quarter
to TCU right now, and there's an immense amount of
empty light blue seats showed showing in the stadium still
with this much time left, and I'm fully expecting Jordan
Hudson to go straight into the booths and say we're
not talking about this and start turning off the lights

(10:39):
and see if ESPN can go off the air at
this point, because this has gotten too embarrassing. After scoring
a touchdown on the first drive, they've been outscored forty
eight to seven.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
You know, I want to say I can't picture her
going into the broadcast booth during the game and asking
them the cut to commercial.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
But I actually can see that, absolutely, I actually can
picture that happened. You know what I can picture. You know,
the backup quarterback has been good. Tonight, Max Johnson, the
starter Go Lopez left with injury. He had an interception,
he had a fumble that fell behind big Max Johnson
coming back from injury, gets back on the field and
he's nine of eleven over one hundred yards, passing in

(11:14):
a touchdown. But if he wasn't good off the bench
and they were going to go to somebody else, I
was fully expecting Michael Lombardi to be his third quarterback
where North Carolina's from tonight the general manager of the
tar Heels, because you can pretty much, I mean, this
is he can't make This isn't the NFL. You can't
make a trade here mid season and try and add

(11:34):
some people. This is college the roster you start with,
well you're kind of stuck with and he is really
stuck at this point.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I mean, and look, and it's so how things change, right.
We talked about this with Jason lock and for last hour,
Bill Belichick now, Belichick has had some bad defeats over
the course of his NFL career.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Couple years ago you mentioned, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
He lost in the playoff company. I think it was
like forty five to fourteen or something against the Bills
and the playoffs. But the worst he had I remember
going he lost thirty one nothing to the Bills. Again,
that was really big. That was in like two thousand
and three, I think a couple of years ago. Yeah,
yeahs open. He lost opening week to the Bills thirty

(12:16):
one nothing in like two thousand and three, and we thought, Okay,
the lera is over for the Patriots, and then the
last game of the season he beat the Bills thirty
one nothing, so like he flipped it right. But the
worst loss he has had was that game you mentioned
against the Cowboys a couple of years ago, his last
year in New England, when things were done, thirty eight
to three, lost by thirty five points. TCU has their

(12:36):
backups in now and they're running the football. It's a
forty eight to fourteen lead. Right now. TCU gets the
end zone again. It's officially and North Carolina and score again.
It's officially the worst loss of Bill Belichick's career.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
By the time it was twenty seven to seven, the
stat came out that only one other time in Belichick's
career had he trailed a season opener by twenty points
as a head coach, and that was over twenty years ago.
The thirty one nothing lost to the Bills.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
This, I mean really, this is and they're showing everybody
on their phones now in the stands and they're just
everybody's just waiting for the game. Look, I'm waiting for you.
I want to hear Belichick now. Now it's like, okay,
I gotta hear Bellich no matter what he says, how
surly he's gonna be with the prins. Can't wait to hear,
can't wait too. We're onto Syracuse. We're here. We're on
to Charlotte. We're on to Charlotte. We're on to Charlotte. Uh,

(13:24):
this is where again, this is where you're at. Sometimes
things change so bad so quickly in college football, you think,
how long does Belichick have to win? After a night
like tonight Again, forty eight to fourteen is the TCU lead.
They have the football, they are in North Carolina Territory. Uh,
they've run the ball I think seventeen consecutive plays, So

(13:44):
I don't think they're gonna throw the ball at your cards.
Well yeah, yeah, I didn't need to throw the beginning
of the game. But you know, he Hoover was really
good too. So that's really how quick things change for
Bill Belichick at the collegiate level. I will have more
in this game coming up next. But speaking of the
big results of college football this weekend, maybe the smartest

(14:05):
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show, Oh with special
delivery Steve Desager in for Mike Harmon. And the clock
is ticking less than two minutes to go in the
fourth quarter, TCU knocking on the door. Don't know how
many more plays they're gonna run. They lead North Carolina
forty eight to fourteen.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Should have had a running clock the whole fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Well, actually after that opening run of the second half,
the seventy five yard touchdown run like that should have
been the That should have been the moment where I was, Okay,
we gotta run the clock here.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
That made it twenty seven to seven. It is now
forty eight to fourteen TCU. So here. Bill Belichick's had
almost fifty years as an NFL head coach or assistant.
His teams never once allowed forty eight points or more
in a game, And in his first night as a
college head coach, forty eight for TCU.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Five hundred and forty three total yards for TCU, and
the coaching staff has taken off their headsets. I don't
think TCU were the first and goal at the eight
is gonna run another play? I mean maybe they do.
I don't know, it be really weird, uh Jim. Yeah,
well especially Hey, I'm gonna get revenge for all the
times Belichick did this in the NFL. Yeah, TCU. Yeah,

(17:13):
they're running a Neil down play. So that's gonna be
a final snap. This is gonna be a forty eight
fourteen final. The horn Frogs absolutely blow out North Carolina
and it was outside of the first drive of the
game that was as good as it got for North Carolina.
We'll bring you Bill Belichick's press conference when he maybe

(17:33):
he'll talk, I don't know. I mean he may just
to say, you know, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I think it will be a lot of dead air.
As we say in the radio business.

Speaker 8 (17:42):
They they executed, and you know, we got some things
to work on offense, defense, special teams, you know, just some.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Just but just got to get another hoodie.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
He is being escorted off the field. Oh that's going
to be a meme. Belichick gives the camera a huge stare, like,
don't get too close to me. As he's being escorted
off the field.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
It was not him actually getting arrested. I think surrounding him.
There are as many law enforcement members around him as
there were points allowed to He's in big trouble, Steven.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think so. I think they might have had. I
think they might have more mounties surrounding him than first downs.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Should be arrested for impersonating an acc football team.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Ooh boy, Sunny Dyke's doing the postgame interview as soon
as Belichick talks, will bring it to you. But just
to finish when this game second before we get told.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Me the PR guy, the s I D at the
North Carolina program working with Belichick. If it's this kind
of season this year.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Remember the scene in Airplane when Robert Hayes is just
sweating down his entire face. And that's what it's got
to be for to be the PR guy right now,
you know, you spent the whole game like talking to people, Okay, great,
we got this, we got this. Yeah we lose. Now
you it's like, oh man, nobody like the.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Nation is leaving. The attention is gone after tonight for
the rest of the season.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'm pretty sure I saw the sidach year AFTERCU scored.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
See that's the thing, Steve, I think you're wrong because
one thing we like in sports is a train wreck, right,
and this is not Hey, a team that we thought
was gonna be good and you lose a couple of
games and they go away. Right if if Michigan isn't
good and they lose a couple of games, Look were
they in the national conversation last year? No, not really,
because they lost a couple of games down they come

(19:34):
back in at the end and they beat Ohio State
and it becomes a thing. But usually you lose a
couple of games in college football, we move on because
we don't have time for you, because, hey, you're not
going to the playoffs. We know this, right. It's not
the NFL where you can start zero to three and
figure it out. We know we move on. But Belichick
is such a huge story. He's the Colorado and Deon
Sanders of this year for twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Without them, but it was always efforvested and had something
to say and he could create a storyline. Belichick's not
gonna do any of that. And on their twelve game schedule,
ESPN was only scheduled to tear to carry two other
games of the rest of their season. They're not gonna
be adding North Carolina games.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Now, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I the Belichick Stanford.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh no, no, no, no, But but the attention on it,
it's it's look, it's gonna be just like just like Colorado. Right,
we talked about coming in that it's like when Dion
takes over, right that you know it's some kind of
new energy and he's got some good players. But we
saw after September, well, okay, the overall, end all be
all because it was the only story in college football. Okay,

(20:39):
that went away a little bit because Colorado started losing,
right Okay, and now Dion was new to college football,
and and the Colorado story was like a commet, like
it was white hot, so you knew it couldn't stay
white hot forever. Okay, Colorado loses, things kind of go
away a little bit. With Belichick in North Carolina, Belichick
is a different person out We've talked about Bill Belichick.
He's been a big deal for the better part of

(21:00):
the last twenty years. Deon Sanders was a big star
when he played. He's on TV NFL network. Right, he
went to become a head coach an FCS and then
got the gig at Colorado. But it's different. Belichick is
a much He's much more and off the Field storyline
because of his relationship with Jordan Hudson hitting whatever happens
with Bill Belichick, because we could be looking at the

(21:23):
end of his career of a guy that we thought
was the best head coach in the history of the
NFL with his Super Bowls and coming in and Brady
and debating who's more responsible, Brady Belichick, which way is it?
Like Belichick's got a lot more cache built up into this,
and the failure of Belichick is gonna have way more
eyeballs on it than the failure of Deon Sanders that

(21:44):
first year with Colorado, right, And that's why, you know,
whatever it is for him, it's like, man, yeah, maybe
teams aren't picking up on it, and maybe maybe you're
gonna have to find the game on CBS Sports Network
or if the game is on FS one, a North
Carolina game and you know when they play Charlotte, you know,
or the OA Show. Yeah, but right, you're gonna follow.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
It right after the slippery steps, You're.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Gonna follow it, and it's gonna be a story because
the fall of Belichick is just as intriguing as the
rise of Belichick. Like if they're really bad or mediocre
it's just the same as them being great. Now okay, now,
them being great, obviously they'd be more attention. Their games
will be, but the but the attention we're gonna spend it,
people will spend talking about them. There's two stories this

(22:25):
college football season. It's Arch Manning and it's Bill Belichick,
and that's not going.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Away, or this story of North Carolina's twenty twenty five
season goes the way of the torpedo bat which nobody
quickly nobody talked about anymore. This team is going nowhere.
And one big difference compared to Colorado a couple of
years ago is you could tune in because we felt
like we knew the quarterback. Hey dion Son, Hey, you know,

(22:51):
maybe you watch the FCS, you know, HBCU title game,
or you know there was something to see on the field,
and certainly Travis Hunter became something to see on the field.
This roster has none of that. So in a North
Carolina broadcast for the rest of the season, whatever cable
company picks up a game, if they do, unless they

(23:11):
show Belichick ten times on the sidelines, there may not
be much to see.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, of course they're gonna show that. That's all they're
gonna show. It's that's Belichick, watch Shortan Hudson. But sure
it is, Sure it is. But we love we love
the train wreck almost as much as we love dynasties.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
And what games, What North Carolina games are going to
get national?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
They will go crazy for Belichick, right. Belichick has been
antagonistic with the media with fans his entire career.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
They're adding the way Forest game and the upf game.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
The Patriots got.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
The tea cheated on against all your teams. Everybody's gonna
want to watch his failure. Network should carry it.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, but I mean, but this is the thing. Is
that Okay? So next week they play a four o'clock
game against Charlotte, right just to just to play it out.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
With me here, and nobody's carrying it right.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
No one's carrying it well right now, ESPN Plus has
you'll be able to get it if you really want it, right,
But what game? And it doesn't matter if you even
watch the game. That's the thing. It's all about the results.
It doesn't matter. Like you can watch Michigan and Alabama
next week and just keeping a oh Man North Carolina
and North Carolina Shark. It's fourteen fourteen midway of the

(24:20):
fourth quarter. Oh my goodness, what's gonna happen if they lose?
It's just about the result for Belichick in North Carolina.
He's such a big, oversized personality that is polarizing that
people are gonna watch they want to watch the fall. Yeah,
they will watch the fall, right. I mean, there's some
that want to see him succeed, and him succeeding would
be an incredible story. Because we spend more time talking

(24:42):
about the teams that are great regardless. But when you
have a team like the Dallas Cowboys, if they stink
this year, you think we're not gonna cover them every
single week. After the Micah Parsons trade, they're story number
one all year long. The Jets could be undefeated, they
could be fourteen and zero. Justin Fields, the front runner
for MV got thirty eight touchdowns through twelve weeks, and

(25:03):
if the Cowboys are four and eight, gets what the
number one story is the Cowboys being four and eight
trying to find a way to win. No, Micah Parsons,
It's still gonna be that way because that's kind of
how we watch sports, It's kind of how we consume
it and the Belichick North Carolina thing. It doesn't match.
Just gonna keep going.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
After this atrocious and opening they lose forty eight to
fourteen at home to TCU tonight. It's not a bigger
story next Saturday night than Michigan Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Uh. If North Carolina loses to Charlotte next week, I
think it's the same story. I think it's the same
size story as Michigan Oklahoma. It becomes the the one
A one or one A story of the week. All
of a sudden, Wait, you're owing too. You lost to
North Carolina Charlotte, You got Richmond coming up, and you
still haven't won a game. Oh my goodness, Like it
becomes that big a deal only because it's all it

(25:55):
could be. Like. It's not like this could be Belichick
where he loses and we say, okay, this could be
the end of Belichick's career. The NFL didn't want to
be sure as hell. No one else is looking saying, boy,
we missed out bringing Belichick back after this game, correct,
Like we're looking at what could be the end of
his career.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
By mid October. This might be like the Linsanity story.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Oh wow, hey he just retired Jeremy Lynn. He just
over the weekend. Steve, Yeah, he just retired.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Man, give the guy a little I'm sorry. Did I
not see him play in North America last year?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Was a little bit.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
He was real quick. Just to know where Jason's coming from.
Imagine your team is the Jets. Sorry, but just Imagineichick
and the Patriots gave him. People like Jason are gonna
want to see. They're gonna come out they hate watch Belichick.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm just saying it's not a parallel to Colorado because
Colorado had a product on the field.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, no, but Colorado also when they started losing lost interest,
even with Shador Sander and Travis Right, he's polarizing, right,
But more people don't like Belichick than like him. Right,
Dion was polarizing. Right. He's more of a fifty to
fifty down the middle. More Belichick has been because of
how he's treated the media, how he's talked. He's not

(27:13):
someone that gives you the warm fuzzies. But he has
a lot of people who respect him, obviously for what
he's accomplished in the NFL. But the flip side is,
boy that got caught in two cheating scandals. So there's that,
but the hate watching for Belichick will be much bigger
than it ever was for Dion.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
It's September first. Their next scheduled TV game is not
until mid October, so it's gonna be a Friday night
while the show is on. They're gonna play an ACC
game at cal So. Being on the West Coast, it
literally will be on throughout the show. So between now
and mid October, I just don't know how huge a
story on this show it'll get talked about on until.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
They're on. I guarantee you next week they will find
a way to get that front and center. They will
find a way to get that on a better way
to see it than ESPN Plus if you can. But
then the week after that, the game's on ACC Network,
which is on most cable channels, and the Clemson game,
which is TBD. You know they're gonna find a way
to put that on there. Bill Belichick against Clemson, Who's
likely still gonna be a Top twenty now if Clemson

(28:16):
loses the next three games and lost this weekend, but
Clemson's still pretty good, Kate Clebnick is really good. They
lost a tough game this week and I'm still I'm
not out on Clemson at all, but I'm sure that
game will wind up being on national TV. Then you
talk about cal like the Syracuse game after that is
on national TV too, I think you might, Uh, Steve,
this is that I think you're you're underestimating the hate

(28:37):
watching of Belichick.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
No, I'm not saying that people won't watch. I'm saying,
as a story, the air is out of the balloon
as of tonight because there is no product on the
field to sell.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Unlike Colorado, Steve de Sager, who if he was the
a D at North Carolina, would fire Bill Belichick after tonight.
He would walk in and say, well, Steve, say Bill,
you've had it. You and Steve and every Michael Lombardi,
everybody get out. I'm changing things up.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Start with Jordan and I don't mean Michael. College football
had well, they had all the eyebells eyeballs on themselves
tonight because you know, the NFL hasn't started. So the
Monday night football matchup was TCU down seven to nothing
quickly at North Carolina. Eventually the horn Frogs beat the
tar Heels forty eight to fourteen. TCU had over two

(29:26):
hundred and eighty yards passing and almost two hundred and
sixty yards rushing as well. This was the debut of
coach Bill Belichick at UNC. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford with
the bad back, he is expected to start the opener
Sunday against the Texans. Stafford has practice fully for the
past two weeks and is expected to do so this week.
Defensive end Micah Parsons was limited in his first practice

(29:47):
at Green Bay. He has a joint sprain in his back.
Forty nine Ers wide receiver Juwan Jennings practice for the
first time in over a month after a calf injury.
He also wants an extension. The Steelers gave running back
Jalen Warren a two year exten worth a reported twelve
million dollars guaranteed. Running Back Najie Harris, now with the Chargers,
says he expects to play in the opener Friday. After

(30:08):
the July fourth eye injury. He was just cleared for
full practice. Chargers wide receiver Quinton Johnston cleared concussion protocol.
The Chargers opener is in Brazil Friday nights against the Chiefs.
The NFL's regular season opener is this Thursday, Dallas at Philadelphia.
Eagles wide receiver Aj Brown said he will play after
a hamstring injury. Naomi Osaka beat Cocoa Golf at the

(30:29):
US Open in New York today in a fourth round
match six three six two. Number two Egos Fiantek also advanced,
as did number eight Amanda and Nisimova. Men's number one
Yonnick Center one easily. Venus Williams wonder doubles third rounder
today with Leila Fernandez. Three w NBA games, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
See, do you say what that was on today? And tennis?
The ten tennis was on when I was I was.
We were over friend's house, hanging out for a barbecue,
and all of a sudden, my wife goes, Venus Williams
is still playing.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
JERMI question, but it's doubles, so you know she can
keep advancing. At age forty five, she was out pretty
quickly trying to play the singles. But three WNBA games.
Atlanta won at Connecticut ninety three seventy six. The Connecticut
Son now ten and thirty. This year, Minnesota won again,
beating Dallas ninety six seventy one. The Dallas Wings are

(31:19):
nine and thirty two. The late game at Seattle has
the home team up on La seventy eight seventy with
about seven minutes to go. And if you're asking about
Caitlin Clark of Indiana, she did not play again yesterday,
still out with the groin and ankle injuries, but at
least she was at shoot around a week ago. Their
regular season ends September ninth, about one week away. The

(31:39):
late ballgame was a pretty good one for the visitors.
The Texas Rangers got two runs in the ninth to
tie two in the tenth to win at Arizona seven
to five. Everything is now final. Baltimore won at San
Diego four to three. Padres reliever Jason Adams suffered a
ruptured quad tendon. The Idol Dodgers first in the NL West,
now two and a half game over the Padres. The

(32:01):
Dodgers play at Pittsburgh and Baltimore this week. Houston beat
the Angels eight three, while Seattle lost ten to two
at Tampa Bay. Seattle now three games back at first
place Houston in the AL West. I mentioned the Texas
ten inning win. That's their sixth victory in a row.
Boston and San Francisco with victory. Cubs won in ten innings,
Philadelphia ten to eight winners at Milwaukee, the Phillies first

(32:23):
in the NL, still six games over the Mets, who
won ten to eight at Detroit. Juan Soto, by the way, well,
it was a first to have a go ahead Grand
Slam and a go ahead multi run triple in the
same game had never happened before. He winds up with
the six ribbies that save to Edwin Diez ten eight
the final at Detroit, but Cincinnati got three in the

(32:43):
bottom of the ninth to win its home game against
Toronto five to four. The Red still four games out
of the last NL wild card behind the Mets.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Back to you, but I do want to say this, boy,
remember when Juan Soda was absolutely miserable with the Mets
and things were so awful. Yeah, he's gonna have four
good offendul or forty home runs, one hundred and ten RBIs.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Everything is fun, an awful season.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Everything is fine. Now It's different when I say, hey,
did you know Stephen August the Mets scored more runs
in August than they did in any month in their history.
But they were eleven and seventeen. That's right, eleven and seventeen.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Where is the starting including today, where is the starting
pitching the last.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Steve, there's two starters we can trust in. One of
them's Jonah Toong who has pitched five innings at the
major league level. It's Nolan mclin and Jonah Toong And
that's it, Like, that's really it.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's kind of astounding.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Actually, at least tomorrow's like McLain day.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
So you know, Philadelphia's such a good team. If they
had Diaz as a closer, can you imagine to the
moon they would go, this is a good team lacking
the back end of the bullpen and something the Mets
actually have.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Exit out, but yeah, it's the other bullpen to get
there is a struggle. Uh, Jason Smith Steve Desager in
for Mike Harmon tonight. Okay, so that was the end.
We got more on North Carolina coming up at about
twenty minutes. As soon as Bill Belichick speaks, we will
be able to bring that to you. Now, I know
he's got a couple of things. He's got to do
the local, he's gotta do North Carolina radio, and he's

(34:09):
gonna do the national Wealth. There's a little bit more
media responsibility. We'll hear from Belichick. Coming up in a bit.
But coming up next, why the smartest coach in college football?
Maybe a guy who retired two years ago. That's next.
Jason Smith, Steve de Sager, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (34:33):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon,
Steve de Saga in for Harmon tonight and Wow TCU
blows out North Carolina and Bill Belichick's debut forty eight fourteen.
We will hear from Bill Belichick coming up in about
fifteen minutes. It was meeting the media a little bit
more like in college football, you gotta do a little

(34:54):
bit more media. You gotta do the local radio shows after,
gotta do the national guys after. So we're gonna hear
from him coming up in a few minutes as he
talks about the incredible blowout loss to start his career.
But in what was a big weekend for opening weekend
for college football, right we talked about Arch Manning and
Ohio State. We'll have more on that coming up next

(35:16):
hour as well. But I gotta say, Steve, maybe the
smartest head coach in college football is a guy who
retired two years ago because maybe, just maybe Nick Saban
knew what he was doing leaving Alabama and retiring what
he did, because wow, the drop off from when when

(35:37):
he walked away to where things sit after that loss
to Florida State, My goodness, man, maybe he kind of knew. Okay,
the way this era is going, Yes, Enna, the NAL
era is not something I like the transferportal era. Maybe
getting to the National Championship semi final and losing on
the final play against Michigan, maybe that's as good as

(35:58):
I don't get to walk away with the National championship.
But this is as good as it's going to be.
And clearly that's about right because it was an underwhelming
year for Calen de Borda's first year last year, and wow,
did they just get boat raced by a Florida State
team that ran all over Alabama yesterday Saturday doing whatever
they wanted to on the ground. It was eye opening.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
And I think you make the good point about the
overall I would also want to get out of college
football when Saban did because of college football, not necessarily
because of my program or whether I'm gonna get ten
wins or anything like that. It has changed so vastly,
especially for someone who's essentially the equal of Bill Belichick

(36:41):
that we've been talking about, multiple championships and up in age.
There's no reason for him to still go through this.
And as many a coach says, once you get into TV,
you don't lose a single game anymore. He can be
around college football, he can be around the pageantry and
see his old friends and go to actually game sites

(37:01):
and not have any of the stress. And there is
added stress that didn't exist before.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
That was Steve Lavin's line all the time at ESPN.
When you know he was young enough when he stopped coaching,
and he was in ESPN for so long. I remember
having him on my show on ESPN. He come on
after a game. I say, Steve, how you doing. He goes, hey,
year five of being undefeated in the studio, this is great.
Like he would always saying that I'm undefeated in the studio.

(37:28):
It doesn't matter what I say, it doesn't matter. I
mean Rea that that's kind of how it is. And
look at Alabama, like Calein de borr is six and
four against unranked teams. All right, nick Saban was won
twenty four and four against unranked teams at at Alabama.
I think about that numbers for a second. Alabama could
not run the football at all Saturday against Florida State.

(37:51):
All Florida State did was run the football two hundred
and thirty yards rushing, right, you had I think every
player that ran the football average at least four and
a half yards of carry. It was emasculating what Florida
State was able to do to Alabama. And this is
a bad Florida you know, I mean, like, is Florida
State back? I'm sure they're running around. Florida State is back.
We're back Florida State. Hey, this is an awesome beginning

(38:14):
for them. And I'm so glad because Florida State being
good is good for college football being in the ACC.
I'm not thrilled with you know, Syracuse, but uh, Florida
State is good for college football. I don't know that
I could take another year of them not being good
because they're such rock stars and it's awesome for them
to be to be, you know, somewhat back. But this
is not suddenly a Florida State team that that you

(38:34):
can say, well, they they found they had a great
offseason and they were able to, you know, because they
tanked last year with all the draft picks they have.
You know, they go from two to ten. Now they're
in the playoff. I mean this was a two and
ten team last year, right, they were two inten.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
They finished behind Stanford and Cal in the ACC.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
They were absolutely awful. Right, their wins were Charleston Southern
and col Like, those were their wins last year, and
they got they got boat raced by everybody. And now
suddenly you don't turn that much around in one off season. Look,
Tommy Costellanos is an okay quarterback. Right, He's not a
world beater, but he looked like someone that could do

(39:13):
whatever the hell he wanted to Saturday to against Alabama.
Like this was like that's why, that's what's so shocking
about this is it's not that, hey, they lost to
an elite team. They played Notre Dame, or they played Miami,
or they started against Ohio State. Like this is Florida
State hoping, Hey, we're hoping we can actually, you know,
just get Bowl eligible this year. Now suddenly Florida State's
a top twenty five team and Castellanos throws for one

(39:35):
fifty runs for eighty and a touchdown like this is
about as impressive as you can be. But for Alabama
to just get worked and dominated that way, that's absolutely stunning,
which again makes me think, maybe Nick Saban new this
is my time to get I'm gonna get out a
year early rather than a year late. Meanwhile, he could
have done one more year. Jalen Milroe stayed and you

(39:55):
know clearly he was one of the best quarterbacks in
the country, so potentially could have done one more. But
I think you said it, well, I'll go a year
early rather than ye're late. Because now here's Caylen de
Bor at Alabama and it's wow, how long does he have?
You know, how long does Calen to Borton? Does he
have longer than Bill Belichick to try to win at
Alabama because they're not gonna They're not gonna take a
six and six Alabama season. Now that's not gonna go

(40:16):
very well.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
And he could have gotten in the national title game.
Saban in his final year, remember how close that Rose
Bull sent me fine I was against Tarborough and Michigan.
This is Alabama team that still has to play at
Georgia at the end of the month later on in
the SEC, they're probably gonna play four ranked teams in
a row. This is not a good start to this season.
And again, Florida State was two and ten last year.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
That this is. Of all the teams that have lost
this week, like, there's a lot of it, there's a
lot of Oh, there's a lot of tens. Yeah, there's
a lot of attention on arch Manning obviously, in Texas's
loss and Notre Dame losing, there's a lot of a bit.
You know, we had four top ten teams lose this week,
but Obama's one where I just sit back and go, WHOA, man,

(41:03):
that might be the worst, that might be the worst.
The team I'm most concerned about after losing this weekend
might be Alabama. Well here, we're not top twenty five,
not yet. We'll be better at the end than we were.
And we were fine against Tennessee. Steve Vangeli put a
lot of points on the board. We were just awful
defensive North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
On the schedule, right, uh.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, sure, we got them, yeah not till thanks getting
not till Halloween. So I'm hoping that maybe we can
flexible schedule that, can we flex North Carolina Texas for
this week? Like, I think that'd be pretty cool we
gon flex that.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Coming up next, we'll hear from Bill Belichick following this
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