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May 24, 2025 • 39 mins

Jason and Mike open hour 2 explaining why the Knicks vs. Pacers Eastern Conference Finals series, with the Pacers up 2-0, is already over. Then, they question whether Tom Brady could come out of football retirement to quarterback Team USA in the 2028 Olympics now that flag football is officially in. Plus, reacting to a sullen Tom Thibodeau's postgame presser.

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Well it happened. It's over. The Eastern Conference Finals is over.

(00:55):
The Western Conference Finals is over. A good run. It's over.
It's over, Johnny, And it sounded at the end just
a few moments ago, Well it sounded like this type
of funeral. March.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
See will love it to heartheart. We'll give it back
to brunts and brunson from up top. Lets it go,
missed it and that's it. So Indiana takes a two
zero lead in this best of seven. They took the
same to zero lead against Cleveland in similar circumstances, winning
the two games in Ohio to start the series.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Here they win the two games in New York. All right,
so there it is Pacers Radio Network. Yeah, look, this
is what I know. You've listened the last couple of nights,
bad place, mentally, not great all of this. But here's
where I am right now. It's almost like and it's
not a full relief because it's gonna be over the
course of the night tonight, right, but after the show

(01:45):
is done tonight and then the weekend's gonna hit here,
and by the next time we do the show, it's
gonna be three zero Pacers. Is that by the end
of tonight I will be my equilibrium will be back
to zero because the last couple of year, you know,
it's been bad, right since this awful loss, worst loss
in the franchise history of the Knicks in Game one,
most devastating loss. I told you they were going to

(02:07):
lose Game two. I knew they were going to lose
Game two, and they did, right, So it's it's over again.
Seventy six and six teams that go up two zip
teams that go up to zip on the road, what
is it? Eighty one and one? Has anybody lost being
up to zip and going I don't think that's happened.
But although, wait, wait, wait didn't they wait? Did the
Mavericks do that to the Did Heat do that to

(02:29):
the Mavericks in the NBA Finals? Was that two zip lead?
I gonna look that up. But anyway, okay, so eighty
one and one? What does it matter? But I know
that when the end of the show comes tonight, I'm
going to feel that that bit of okay. Mentally sports wise,
the worst is over. The series is done. The Knicks
have lost. They gave away Game one. It was embarrassing.

(02:52):
They had nothing left. Their tips is getting completely out
coached by Rick Carlisle. As we've seen, the Knicks have
no answer for whatever the Pacers want to do offensively,
and it's been different game plans Game one and Game two.
The Pacers clearly know what they want to do and
the Knicks are trying to react, and the Knicks offense
always completely stalls and gets back to Hey, whatever Brunson
can do, that's how we do it. Now He's done

(03:14):
it so often so okay, I'll live and die with
Brunson shots. I'm okay dying with that three at the
end of the fourth quarter when they were down three
and eight seconds left to go, right, Brunson's the guy.
But honestly, I know by the end of the show's
time mean, yeah, I'm good. I'm good, and you're gonna say, oh, no,
you're not. Not No, I'm good. I tell you when
i'm when I'm when i'm low, I'll tell you when

(03:34):
i'm fine. I'll tell you when i'm up. I'm going
to be fine. Because this was going to be the
result following Game one. There was no way the Knicks
we're gonna come back from that devastating a loss. That
devastating a loss. And I and you know, to hear
so many people say, oh, it's just one game. It's
just like It's not just like they blew a five

(03:55):
point lead in the last minute. This was they blew
leaves that we have never seen before in the history
of the NBA. Or was it fourteen fourteen, or at
least till they were keeping track right, team teams up
nine with fifty seconds left to go in the fourth quarter.
Going back to the mid nineties when they started keeping
track fourteen and fourteen wins and no losses like this,

(04:15):
Sometimes there's a there's a mental there's a mental aspect
of things you just can't come back from. And it's
not that that the Knicks that that the Knicks team
is going to come out slow. It's not that they're
going to just to to to not have an effort.
It's that when you blow a lead like that, eventually
you start thinking, well, the worst is gonna happen to us,

(04:36):
because it did. Right, This is just what it is.
Right when we had Rick Buker on the show last
week and he said, and I said, listen, you know,
for the Knicks, with with the Celtics and in the
Celtics areas, I knew they were gonna come out and
not really have an effort in Game five and they're
going to try to go home and win it in
game six. And Rick said, you know you're right because
you do see a lot of teams. I see a
lot of teams that come out for a game and
they know we're not going to get the calls, they're

(04:58):
not going to go our way. And if it has
happens that way in the first quarter, they go see
and they put it away and it's a blowout and
they come back for the next game like that's what
I That's what I knew was gonna be. Game two
for the Knicks was going to be. Yeah, they're gonna play,
but they're gonna know disasters around every corner. They're not
going to attack this game from a standpoint of confidence,
from a standpoint of a game plan where they know

(05:19):
they want to execute, and the Pacers smell blood and
they're all kinds of confident, they're all kinds are ready
to execute that. When they started the way the game
that way today, I said, boy, that's gonna be it.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Seeackham scores the first eleven points. Sometimes the beginning of
the game is everything. Sometimes it's nothing. But I knew
the Pacers are not coming in here as self satisfied,
ready to just go home. Hey it's one one, We're fine.
They said, no, we did it before to Cleveland, We're
gonna do it here to you too, And that's exactly
what happened. I knew this was coming because that mental
hurdle of a loss like that is really difficult to

(05:51):
get over, and it's gonna be in the back of
their heads whenever they play the Pacers the next two games,
next year, two years from now, when Halliburton's still on
the team, as long as those guys are still there
and Brunts is still there, it's gonna be there. Look
what the Pacers can do to the Knicks. The mental
advantage that the Pacers had coming in was going to
be too great because they were gonna come at it
from no matter what the deficit is, we can win,

(06:13):
and let's get out big and make them quit. And
the Knicks maybe not make them quit, but make them
realize and lose whatever confidence they had.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
It.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, it's just gonna happen to us again. And you
saw the way the Knicks ran around defensively and the
Pacers able to move the ball and wind up with
an open three, and they always hit the open three
when they needed to. There's something to be said for
execution as well, But to see the Pacers play this
game that way, and the Knicks really seem to lose
composure and confidence as the game went on. That's why
I said, I told you this was coming, and when

(06:42):
I know the result is here is coming, I'm going
to accept it a lot easier. There's a little bit
of that release that I know. Okay, Well, I don't
have to be so wound up about the NBA Playoffs.
They but don't have to be so locked in on
the Knicks every day because they lost the first two
games at home. It's just gonna be a matter of
time till the season ends. I'm a realist. I get it, understand.
So by the end of the show tonight, maybe by

(07:02):
the third hour, I'll be laughing and making fun of
the next But I know by the end of the show, yeah, okay,
I moved on. Mentally, I'll be in a much better place,
which I want to get in a better place, because
I don't want to be in the mental place I said, no,
I'd be terrible, right. I was just sitting around counting
the minutes until this game, not so I could watch it,
just so it could be over and I can deal
with the result. Because if they won, hey, it's still

(07:22):
a series. It's great. I could be excited. If they lost. Okay,
I knew it was going to be this way, but
I knew how I could react, and I knew I'd
be able. I'd be able to deal with things well.
You've got a pile of cheese that you can eat.
I just need you better before you have a long
drive for the weekend in sporting events where you're listening
to disturbs version of sound of silence over and over
again and tormenting your family. That would be bad. From

(07:44):
land to basketball, I see that there are four hundred
and sixty five instances of playoff status at any round
where it got to two to zero, and thirty four
of those teams came back to win, including last year's Pacer. Now,
in terms of winning on the road, I don't have
that subject. Yeah, I don't think that working on that

(08:06):
data point. But it's gonna be less than thirty. Yeah,
it's gonna it's gonna yeah, because one of those thirty
four was the Pacers over the Knicks. Yeah, just last year. Yeah,
but all of that to say I you said quit,
I'll just say that the Knicks perpetrated a fraud on me.
I thought they were I thought they were taugh No,
I thought they were tougher than this that. I thought

(08:27):
that they would be. The fans and everybody would be
said in the bodegas and sad having last call at
three thirty in the morning after seeing a Broadway show
or whatever yesterday and whatever the Catharsis was, but that
the Knicks would be able to come back, and they
did battle back. Right, it's a one point game with
fourteen point one Brunson, it looks like he gets the turnover,

(08:49):
but he's got all sorts of jersey and what you
get the Zuppert films, that's an MSG whistle. I was
kind of surprised that they put out there, but well,
because as that ball sailed out of bounds, he even
looked back like yeah, yeah, the video review is gonna
take quite two seconds, Like nope, no, but look, but
there was a tear away. The dude would be shirtless.
There's a there's a difference. I have no shirt. I

(09:12):
don't know how you lost it. Sorry, Nick basketball, it's
stuck to his hand like he's Spider Man. No, there's
a difference between quitting and there's a difference between playing
on an edge where you're ready for things to go wrong,
for things to not go your way again. Slowly, over
the course of that game, the Knicks were never able
to take control. Every time they busted out a three

(09:32):
to four point lead, the Pacer they hit a big three,
and that's gonna be My memory of this series is
gonna be all the three is the Pacers whenever they
wanted one. Now the Miles Turner one is the one
that sticks through two games from me, because these other
guys gonna have games. Siakam, while he wasn't a dominant score,
was still their leading score at twenty per game. And
we've seen him in the past in the playoffs, he's
had big moments, so him starting to get hot didn't

(09:55):
surprivee me. Miles Turner setting up in the corner and
looking around like you're not gonna come check me, I'll
take a shot like that. Look and and there and
and look, and everything is going the PACER's way. The
Pacers are playing their best basketball right now, right the pace,
playing their best basketball right now. And I give them
the nod right because they're they're playing incredibly well to
comeback coming out this game. Uh but look that I'm

(10:19):
saying this all plays into why I said the other night,
that's it, man, that's it. And people who tried to
tell me and going to all the knicks have to
I don't know what you're talking about. Man. This is
not happening. This is not it's I don't think people
really understood exactly what happened because they're in society now,
we're in it. We're in an era where and it's

(10:41):
and it's thanks to politics. This is this is not
gonna be political conversation to work beas it's a Friday night, right,
won't be full of positives, even though the Knicks lost.
Is that there's certain things that happen and and you know,
even ten years ago in politics, something big would happen.
You go, wow, that's gonna be a story for two weeks,
and it is, and it's something that's it's such a
huge development, and you think this is gonna be a

(11:02):
story for the rest of this month and beyond. But
now at the point in politics where a big story
gets out and yeah, it's a story four half a
day and then we're onto something else. Right, it has
no staying power. No one story has any more staying
power than it's. Look at this shocker now because we're
reinventing politics every single day. So because of that, we

(11:23):
you know, hey, okay, we can move on. We move
on from things. In sports, it's not quite that way.
And I know, and I know the way this game
comes out. And then when you got into the following
day after Game one, you saw so many pundits and
experts and former players go, all the Knicks have to
put this behind they get ready, they will, They'll have Brunson,
They'll have towns of this. I'm I'm like, you guys

(11:44):
are insane. You guys played the game. You know what
happens to some to some teams mentally when you give
up an all time worst loss for your franchise and
an NBA history, When you lose a game that no
one has ever seen, you lose it a way to
two ways that no one has ever seen. Fourteen points
with three minutes left to go, nine points with fifty

(12:05):
one seconds left. There's not coming back from that, and
and and and when I watched the breakdown of it,
whether it was on TV list on the radio, I
said to myself, they're not giving they're not giving nearly
enough attention to the fact that this wasn't just Team
A blew a lead late and they won. This is
not hey, it was a seven point leader. This was

(12:28):
this was an all time NBA choke. And when you
think of the Halliburton shot and the miracle. Something breaks
in you, and something breaks in your confidence and how
you approach games and how and how you deal with
with adversity, and and no one was giving that enough
enough weight. And that's all I saw in this game
is yeah, the next consider and say we're ready, we're
ready to go, ready to come back, right, come back.

(12:49):
But I saw in the middle of the game, when
they're running around defensively, I said, they're lost. They're absolutely lost.
The Pacers are still getting open shots and the Knicks
are playing hard because it's not like the Pacers ran away.
It's a nip tuck game. The Pacers take out a
big lead, the Knicks buckle down and they make shots.
But eventually the Pacers start making their shots too, and
it's a little bit too much to ask, and the

(13:11):
comeback doesn't get there. I said they'd lose between ten
and twenty. They lost by five. It doesn't mean I
saw the result coming. And this is why again, I
knew this was gonna go this way, and no one
gave enough credit to just wow. When stuff is really bad,
you have sometimes you have to sit and go all right,
this is way worse than we thought it was. And
we really have to understand, and you know it not

(13:32):
to make it to go away from politics. Is this
is more something that everybody can understand, is that anybody
that has a kid and something happens in their lives
right when they're you know, they're ten, they're twelve, they're fourteen,
and it's like, oh, my best friend's not talking to me.
Why because she thought I said something that I liked

(13:53):
something on social media and I didn't. I didn't mean
to hit the like button because it kind of made
fun of what she said, so I liked it, and
then you know, she got mad at me. And you
just want to say, your reaction is gonna be, well, okay,
so you make up what's not that big a deal?
So you hit a button, the wrong button, Why is
that a big deal? That's fine, don't worry about it.

(14:14):
And that's your reaction because that's what you know as
an adult. But for a kid, you have to understand, Hey,
this is their whole world right now. Their whole day
is my day is ruined because my best friend is
mad at me. Whether you think the reason is legitimate
or not, it's their whole day and their best friend
is mad and your kid is upset. So you have
to come at that from the perspective. Okay, I have
to understand how you know that this is a deal

(14:37):
for you right now. This is something you are dealing
with and instead of blowing it off saying everything's gonna
be fine, you need help, you need advice, right, I
need to understand that position. Nobody understood the position that
the Knicks were in after the way they blew game won.
It was boy, what a horrible choke job. But we're
on to game two. Hey, what's up next? Here we go,
we're talking about RG three and Ryan Clark and Caitlin

(14:58):
Clark and Roy Clark and and Dave Clark five, and
Dave Clarker played basketball and Dave Clarker played baseball and
all that. That's TJ Dave Clark five. So no one
really understood that this was the reality after game one. Now,
I'll tell you this. With all of that you mentioned
the other stuff going on in media, I'd rather talk

(15:18):
about Roy Clark. Let's far more entertaining to me than
the other nonsense that's been swirling about in the verbal
slap fights. I made it good reviews, good for your
Q raiding. Everybody knows who you are. You all look
like a bunch of dopes. But it comes back to
the professionalism of what I anticipated and look at. Shaking

(15:41):
off tough losses is difficult, right, you've coached your daughter's
softball soccer. I watch my daughter with soccer games. Most games,
she's okay with it, not happy if they take an l.
But it's a fairly quick reset because there's other stuff
to focus on. And I get it. You're in New York,
so you've got the eight hundred pound gorilla and on

(16:01):
all the billboards. Hey, the Knicks choke this way if
you're walking around, I mean, that's all that's there. But again,
I'm expecting you, as a professional to get back out
there and do your job. Right, say tie it back
to Belichick. Do your job. I think I owe h
seven dollars now, but either or I owe Robert Kraft
seven dollars either way, the point being that you have

(16:23):
to flush it right, that's just the way it works.
But since you didn't and now you're down two oh,
we get to put back on the table. Something we
theorized I don't know about a month before the playoffs
is the thin haired, thin skin, red faced, surly hands,
folded arms on the sideline. Is he getting ready to

(16:44):
walk the plank? I'd rather think about Giannis Yiannis, Yannis
will save us? Is he wearing a cape ex exit?
Is this Roy Clark? Is this Roy Clark? Oh? This

(17:04):
a little bit of Roy Clark. I gotta explain the
Generation X with Roy Clarks. I mean not not not
millennials or gen Z like jen X who Roy Clark is. Yeah,
but that man could pick it. He used to have
commercials I remember growing up where he would he would
do his own guitar lessons where you would teach you
a chord at a time and you would put like
stickers on the guitar. Your fan. He would say, and

(17:25):
you get your sticker and you put it on the
neck of the guitar, and you're able to learn cord
by Cyah. Let's go man. I'm already okay, I'm already
doing better. Because the series is over, I mean eventually
we'll get some Roy Clark badge over wark In too.
And the Mets are losing and the Hurricanes that are
gonna go out to I hate they were terrible. Okay,
they didn't bother to show up at all yesterday, Exit

(17:46):
Out about a Fresca exit swelling dome. Jason Smith and
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, we got a big story out of the NFL.
We'll continue to bring you you hear from Tom Thibodeau
coming up later on this hour. But we have a
big story out of the NFL. Is the greatest quarterback
of all time coming out of retirement. That's next, Jason

(18:09):
to Mike and Roy Clark. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
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Speaker 1 (18:26):
I can hit another three again. The Knicks fell down
by ten and couldn come back. The series is over.
We don't need to play the next two and the
Pacers and the Thunder. We'll play it finals. No one
will watch, not even stream, not even if it was

(18:50):
on Apple TV.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
My favorite part is the podcast version of this It's
just you singing at Acapella.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Not truly well done. Paul Simon's coming to town in
a month. I've already started to write the letter can
you dedicate this to my friend and colleague. Could you
do instead of you can call me? How you can
call me Tibbs? Can you do that?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
One?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Can you do that? Man walks down the street. He says,
why am I? Why am I down?

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Two to the Pacers. Now the rest of my life
is so hard. I need a shot of redempse three
point opportunity. Uh yeah, oh two pacers going home. I honestly,
I'll tell you Nicks aren't gonna win a game. It's
gonna be four games and that's it. They're gonna lose

(19:43):
Game three by twenty in game four by twenty. Wow,
just like that. It's gonna be it. Man, I'm telling you.
Have I been right so far about telling I've been
right about the Nicks. I've been right. I'm telling you. See,
part of me is thinking you were playing the ropidope thing,
because he and I were actually talking about this a
little bit early. He goes, you know, riding the line,
you know what would it was better for the show,
And it's like, well, there's the if they win. Now

(20:05):
the Knicks are back, so perhaps it's four hours yeah Nicks.
And then and then as opposed to the I can't
console you. I mean, you have cheese and it's not helping. Yeah,
you got cheese. Now that you got the Mets losing,
that doesn't help. But it's a Friday night. Yeah, it's
a holiday weekend. We will be in the studio on
Monday and chatting with you across the globe. But all

(20:28):
of that to say, I didn't know which and sad, Jason,
retail therapy, Jason eating cheese and still not finding happiness.
It concerns me. Like I said, by the end of
the show, I'll be fine. I'm hopeful mentally I will.
Maybe Magic Johnson will give us a tweet or too.
Maybe maybe because I look, because in the end I
knew it was coming. I need the morning time and

(20:50):
I'll be done morning by the time we get to
the end of the shop. Should I get the guy
at the local shop to rip a box of cards
for us and we see what we get. And I
mean that might be entertaining. I don't know. I'm trying
to find some wins here for you know. I'm telling you,
I'll be fine. I'll be I'll be absolutely fine. Mary's
finding sad song after sad.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yes, it does make you feel better, though, you are
like kicking ass with the freestyles off the dome.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Well go thank you, that's gonna say. Yeah, hey, you know, look,
dome is my my thing. Rest ninety nine percent of
the NBA population is happy that the Knicks are losing.
The one percent is me and NBA television rights holders.
Those are the ones who right now shallow May is
living living it. Yeah, but yo, shallow ma is twenty nine. Okay, Shay,

(21:33):
you suck it up. You have you got some years. Okay,
you got some years. I get it. He's got skin
in the games. I mean, look, Larry, no, he is Larry.
Larry did yeah, yeah, he could have tripped Myles Turner.
He didn't. He couldn't. I got tripped by Larry David
only in the next game. But we are sapping. I mean,
what are you gonna do? We'll hear from Tibbs coming
up in a few minutes. I wonder if he has
one word answers like uh he had after Game one

(21:56):
against the Pacers. But potentially big news to football wise,
not NFL wise, but football wise, is it. There's been
some charge a lot a lot of people reporting that
potentially Tom Brady could come out of retirement to quarterback
the Laws VC to quarterback Team USA in flag football

(22:21):
in twenty twenty eight, Brady would be fifty years old
flag football twenty twenty eight. Now I'm in he can't.
He doesn't have to take a hit. Nobody's gonna be
at his feet by uh that's true. No, listen, I look,
what would I say, I have to I have too
big takes this. But first one is why not. It's

(22:41):
gonna look like the Dream Team against Angola from nineteen
ninety two when it's when it's Michael and Magic and
Barkley and Bird and final scores are one oh eight
to twenty four, and players are gonna be saying, hey,
when I'm standing next to a guy in the free
throw line, get a picture so you see what it's
like next to this guy. No one's gone. And I

(23:02):
know that flag football is a little bit different. They
play five on five. Okay, we're gonna have the best
football players in the world. I don't think anything's gonna
be close. If something is close, i'd be just donne
to beyond belief. But I mean, there are professional professional No,
there are football players out I gotta think we have
the great. I gotta think, you know, basketball, I think

(23:23):
we have the greatest football players in the world in
the United States. I'm just telling you. I just think
the United States we're gonna We're gonna we got the
greatest football players in the world. I don't think a
team from Canada is gonna. I don't think a team
from Mexico or Amsterdam is gonna show up and say,
we're really gonna give the United States all a can
handle unless they change the rules and it's more like
Australian rugby than it is flag football, na, I think

(23:46):
we're gonna be okay. What are the rules if you
start to run by me, like say a Tyreek Hill
and I just grab your flag preemptively, is it dead
there or does he still get to run down and
catch the ball pre I think that's a preemptive flag grabbing.
I don't know about that. I don't know. I don't
talk about different things in the rules. How much contact
is enough? The play is over for you? What do

(24:07):
you mean, Hey, I barely touched that guy. It's over
for you. You can't do you flatten that guy?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
He ran into me?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Like, what do you want? You're out of the go
to the sideline, you're out of the play. You're out
of the play, and be like we're gonna win that bad?
So okay, Brady, why not? Right? Why not? And if
I'm an NFL team, I am more than happy having
that because I don't want my quota actually over getting her.
What did I tell you from the beginning? And oh,
by the way, like we told you being ahead of
the curve when this topic was talked about this week
and today with break, Oh, I don't want my guys
out there. Yeah, that's nice. We told you that like

(24:36):
five days ago. I don't want anybody from my team
out there. Not that I have to worry about Jets
players being out there, but I don't fast as hell though. Okay,
I know I still don't want him out there. I
don't want him out there. Well in two years. I'm
just saying he could be if he's not on my
team in two years. Hey go ahead, play, Hey go ahead.
That ain't doesn't even have to dry. Nobody's trade for
you to get rid of a guy. Nobody from me

(24:58):
ext Jet beat it. So I I think everybody's gonna
be okay with with Brady doing that. Oh yeah, I
don't have to have my quarterback go and worry about
some sort of strained strain, injury, strain or injoy. Okay, great,
because you know that's what everybody we talked about. The
John Harbaugh quote from the other day, right, Actually it
wasn't from the other day. That was from back in
March when this was first starting to percolate. He goes, clearly,

(25:18):
I've got a guy who would excel and dominate. I
don't want him to play. No, I don't want to play.
I don't want him out there. How is all of
a sudden this is accepted for football but for World
Baseball class, Oh, it's such a great thing. No, it's
a great thing for the rest of the world, not
great for us. I pull you to Edwin Diaz two
years ago. Hey we're celebrating. Oh I'm not the right

(25:39):
like I like. For football, everybody seems to be on
the same point, full grammatic. Yeah, we don't want our
guys now. But but for baseball, Oh, I have played
it's so great, And no, it means nothing. The World
Baseball Classic is a made up event. Everything is made
up about it. It's not the Olympics. It's not even
close yeah, but it's not big gonna come and kick kick?
Does it matter? Tommy Lessorda already yelled at me on

(26:00):
the air over at one. Oh. I remember he got
so mad, Jason, Jason, Jason. I'm telling you, Jason, he
wanted to throw you out of the country. Yeah, he
was really mad. How do you not love your country?
How do you not love the Red, White and Blue?
I really wanted to say, Tommy, can we talk about
the performance and the performance here? Performance? With performance? I mean,
I mean he yelled at me when I know what

(26:21):
he might he might have that would have been good radio.
We might have gotten more dumps than we did with
the famous Eric Dickerson. So Brady, go ahead, play. It's
not gonna matter. We're gonna roll the gold medal. It
doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
The one thing I will say is this, because I
did feel this the first way, is that you know,
there's lots of people who play flag football, who do
it that have Olympic dreams like, hey, this is what
I have. And especially I think about the one guy
who said he's the Mahomes of flogg Yeah, and he
can't even know it's terrible. I'm like, dude, I can
throw better than you. And I'm in my fifties and

(26:53):
my arm hasn't been good in like twenty years, and
I can throw better. I can throw farther than you.
Come on, man, well you just throw that football. How
about that? We get Uncle Rico out there from the
football John and what greis or yeah, let's go. But like,
I do feel really bad for the guys that play
flag football, that do it almost for a living, that
should be able to play. Right, we're playing flag football.

(27:14):
You know, you go to a big tryout and we're
gonna pick Team USA, and they're gonna go play like
you got this guy, gotta have it. I do feel
for those guys because suddenly, hey, we have this big
Olympic dream. We're all gonna go play. It's gonna be awesome.
But the NFL says, oh no, sorry, guys, we're bringing
We're bringing bringing the A team to this. Ah okay, great.
I do feel for those guys. I feel for him

(27:35):
for a minute. You can be on the practice squad,
you can come to hang out, you can go uh
shag malls. I don't know. And here is Tom Brady
being benched for Benny Simonson. Benny Simonson is a liquor
salesman out of Warroad, Minnesota. Here he is, boy, I'll
tell you. In the Beer League he plays in thirty
eight touchdowns last year. Let's see if some of that
last minute Benny magic is out there again. Brady really struggling.

(27:59):
So here comes Betty Simons. But it goes back to
the old tenant of the show. And I know your
life in radio and TV before you and I got
together here, and certainly for me, it's a running joke
of all right, what's the monetization possibility of any of
these kind of events? Right, if you're gonna spend your
time on it, what is it costing you in terms

(28:21):
of times and dollar output? Or what are you getting back?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
You got that's how you're making your decision in the world.
For the NFL to say, yeah, go ahead and do this,
they have already three steps ahead in terms of whatever
The Professional Flag Football League is coming to you as
an offshoot of the NFL with the global reach starting
in the Olympics. Ergo, yeah, hey, we're all on board. No,

(28:44):
I don't want my guy to play, Yeah he can
have his guy play, because we only need ten guys
that's the other part of it. We don't need to
feel fifty two. No, no, no, we need ten guys,
ten and probably some kind of reserve. We here's our
taxing squad. Yeah, but all of it to say, it
comes down to, all right, who's QB thirty, thirty one
and thirty two. You're still better than the guy that

(29:05):
that's over there throwing a football over the mountain. You
guys are quarterbacks, and now we build from there. It's
gonna be like when when mister Burns put Homer in
for Daryl Strawberry. But I have nine home runs. Ah well,
they think of it as a very well played game
and sit down and enjoy your success. This is what
manager's strategy. Coach I got not playing the percentagy coach,

(29:27):
I got nine home runs today. Oh boy. But but
that's it right. I appreciate the dream. I'm all about dreaming.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Part of it is, you know, if you can dream it,
you could do it. Right, all of those self help things, uh,
to the tune of billions of dollars, Maybe we were
right one of those. It's started a video series of
that you can dream it, you could do it. Brought
to you by Jason and Mike. But I appreciate that.
But there's a lot of money to be made here
and global exposure. TV show wins time now to find

(29:59):
out what's trending in the wide world of sports. From
man who's been called the Tom Brady of Fox Sports Radio.
He's not happy about the roast of his life we
had from a few months ago. It's Steve de Seger.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
No, the only roast in my life is like Sunday's
dinner coming up.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
That's about the extent, Steve. If you'd gotten to twenty
five million dollars that Brady said he got, would you
have been okay with it?

Speaker 5 (30:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Okay, No, that's a no.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Although you know people who already have twenty five million,
that's kind of an odd question.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
They trade it all for a little more, Okay, yeah,
all right.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
By the way, the New York Knicks have lost the
first two games at home in a playoff series for
the first time ever, and no no team ever in
a conference final has lost the first two at home
and still wound up winning the series. Indiana wins at
New York one fourteen one oh nine tonight, two games
to none. Lead in the East Final Passcolciakam with thirty
nine points Tyrese Halliburton with eleven assists. This is the

(30:52):
first time in Knick's history that they've lost five home
games in a single postseason. The NBA record is six
home losses in a single postseason Boston a couple of
years ago, and Boston three years ago, and a couple
of other teams. Meanwhile, we've got.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I thought you said we were done updating this game.
Oh you just give the one and that's it all
coming through final score. That's it. Hey, okay, let's you
said you said last that we're done updating the game.
All you've done is update it in the last hour.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
The updating mean the game. The forty eight minutes of
the game was over.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Oh you on semantics? Yeah, okay, no more game. Wait,
I'm gonna roast you. Wait for the Steve to Saga
roast you.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Wanal score is still in lights on the board and
not change.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
It's one line, just like the next season, okay.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Jalen Brunson did have thirty six points and eleven assists.
The All NBA First Team, led by Shay giljis Alexander
in the w NBA four games Tonight, Minnesota edge Connecticut
seventy six seventy Among the late games, expansion Golden State
is still winning at LA with about seven minutes left
seventy one to fifty eight to the NHL Playoffs Game

(32:02):
two of the West Final to Edmonton in a three
zhe shutout victory at Dallas that series even at one.
A reminder Fox TV will have the Indy five hundred
this Sunday. The Dodgers are holding on in the bottom
of the ninth. It's now five to four at the Mets,
where there was an over hour and a half rain
delay in the top of the third, So yes, at
this late hour they're still going. The Dodger closer Tanner

(32:23):
Scott earlier this week allowed a home run in the ninth,
they kept him in and he allowed a home run
in the tenth. Tonight, he's thrown close to twenty five
pitches in the bottom of the ninth and gotten one
out and allowed two runs. So it's a five to
four LA advantage and the tying run is at third.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Well, no longer there's a base at the left, the
game is tied.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Scott has allowed three runs in the bottom of the ninth.
It is even at five. I was almost gonna say
at Shay Stadium at City Field, it seems like it's
been a while since anyway. The Angels are leading six
to one over the Marlins. Angels have won seven in
a row. Philly has won seven in a row and

(33:06):
leads one nothing in Sacramento against the A's bottom of
the seventh A's have lost nine straight. The Padres won
on a solo homer top of the night by Manny
Machado two to one at Atlanta that ended a six
game losing streak for San Diego. The Braves did activate
Ronald Acunya today and he homered in his first at
BET had been out for a year with a torn
acl Homard on the first pitch back to you, Thank.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
You, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. Coming up next, Tibbs is speaking. Uh. Are
we gonna get more than one word answers from a
guy that's been completely out coached by Rick Carlyle. No,
that's next, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon Sports Radio Studios. No yeat, Mets get
three in the bottom of the ninth that you leave
the winning run at third. Ronald Lecunya strikes out a
Louis Angela Cunya strikes out the other guy hit a
hold Ronalduny, but home run, welcome back, So Mets the

(34:15):
Dodgers go to the tenth th inning. This is gonna
be the theme for me tonight, right. I need this
Mets win after the Knicks. I'm not gonna get it.
I'm gonna get a three p I'm gonna get a
three run comeback in the ninth inning and the Dodgers
will win it in the tenth or eleventh, and that's said,
this is gonna be my night. It's kind of like
the shot that Hart made when he finally actually dented
the scoreboard six points for him in a no show effort.

(34:37):
But he got that layup that made it what was it,
one ten, one oh nine, and then you have the
follow on bruns and free throws and eventually we get
to our one fourteen one o nine finish. But yeah,
it taunted you. It taunted you in the moment. Likewise,
that inning, Steve Desager's feed was just slightly ahead of ours.
So as he said, hey, there was a base hit
and now it's tied, you're like all right, and you

(34:59):
sat with rap detention excitedly, like, all right, where's the hit,
let's see it. I'm just getting the rug pulled out
from I know, I know. Then the Mets'll find a
way to well, got three of the ninth and find
a way to lose. You're getting a hit in the
face with a giant mallet or pie, not sure which
giant pie. So let's hear from a guy everybody wants
to be fired right now. Tom Thimbodau. He had a

(35:19):
good run Nick's head coach, well until the last couple
of games. Uh it was. He has been completely out
coached by Rick Carlyle in the first two games of
this series. Not so much about the Knicks execution down
the stretch of Game one, but just what the Pacers
seem to have better game plan for what they want
to do, and the Knicks aer on roller skates trying

(35:39):
to react to what the Pacers have planned. So what
did Tibbs have to say? Is he talking about Michael
Malone takings like, no, I'm just kidding. Did he start
lobbying on talking about Danny Hurley taking his I just
got I'm just guys. Here's Tom Timbodeau. Following the Knicks
loss to the Pacers.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
You tell your guy going into game three, get ready
for the next one. You got to be ready to
for the next challenge. We got to study the film,
make our corrections, get ready to play again.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
What would you say was the biggest deciding factors in
tonight's game.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, and again it comes down to a couple of things.
Going into the fourth quarter. It's tie ball game, and
you just got to make better place, more winning place. Tom.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
As you know, Kat sat most of the fourth court tonight.
You went with Mitchell for most of that went into
that decision.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Just we got in a hole and then the group
that was in there gave us a chance. So we
just right right and that were just searching for a
way to win.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Tom, on the second last possession, you got a chance
to if you shot it earlier in the shot clock,
get the.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Two for one. In terms of possessions, what's your philosophy.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, like just looking forward to the best look before
the defense can get set. So that's what we're trying
to coach.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Fourteen point one seconds to go, you have a time
out left Jaileen at the part quick, what were you
looking for on that?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah? Open floor, open floor. I thought he got the space.
You know, I'm gonna trust him in that situation versus
dead ball where you can lock into and deny him
the ball. I felt like we can get him the
ball into space in that that scenario.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
All right. Now that now, look, you heard Tims there
a little bit of okay, I get it, But there
is one big thing that I that I'm completely on
board with him on. Right Kat doesn't move his feet? No, no, no, well,
well Cat Kat could find his way to Milwaukee for
Yannis next year. So I don't think that's not gonna happen,
because that could absolutely happen. But I am absolutely okay

(37:40):
at the end of games, if the Knicks' offense breaks
down and it becomes Brunson, whatever he can create, because
that's just that, that's how the knickser made. At the end.
He's the most clutch player in the NBA. I will
live with that shot and him missing every single day
because of what he does. And how many shots he's
made like that. He did have a good look. You know,

(38:01):
it's not like, okay, they had to find a way
to get him up and know he had the ball,
he had a good look. He missed it. I'll live
with that miss that. That is absolutely okay. There's so
much other crap. Oh I almost got really almost cursed there.
How I almost cursed for the first time when the
radio eyes started. Yeah, like in twenty five years. Maybe
I'm not over it yet. There's a lot of crap

(38:22):
that I'm not, but I will absolutely live with. Hey,
if Brunson has the shot at the end and and
he misses it, I'll live with that. I'll live with
that miss well. But that the further extension there is
he's watched it in his own series and certainly in
the NBA as a whole. Inbound plays in the final
couple seconds of games have been an absolute disaster. It's

(38:45):
almost like those things like we should have run those
back in training camp. You remember that, I said, what
other scenario is do we need to draw? Oh wait,
inbounding the ball with five seconds left might come in
handy at some point in a critical game. Uh So, Yeah,
he put the ball in Brunson's hands. He's led you
to this point. He's been a star. War is his

(39:06):
second team all NBA you get. You gotta let him
make a play and make make the read and live
or die with the consequence the fact that Kat's sitting
on the bench very large, Uh story that bed Yan.
It's percolating under the surface, right because you're you're just
watching and you're talking about the greatness of Siakam or

(39:27):
Haliburton closing their balance whatever. Yeah, but uh yeah, Towns, Yeah,
and something else in Towns and ANDBI for Yannis. You
can't get rid of o g Why not if he's
not gonna belongs in New York Garden Smith didn't get
the end of Game one. You can not guard guys

(39:48):
in Milwaukee. Yannis coming up next, we got extra hot
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