May 20, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to all the Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese drama. Jason explains that Caitlin Clark was just simply sticking up for her teammate who got shoved in the back by Angel Reese previously. That's really all that play was about. And Shaq says David Stern sent him to Orlando in 1992 because the weather is hot there. Plus, a Western Conference Finals picks!
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon, Heat Live from the
tirec to Dotcom Studios, where I'll tell you what not
the greatest last four days for the Dodgers swept by
the Angels for about the Mets since I think since
(00:50):
since Bobolinsky was pitching for the Angels, that's a good
at Pete A Lonzo would be an improvement for you.
The last couple of nights. Right now, middle of the
third inning, the Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers seven to nothing.
Landon Nak has come in and given up four runs
in an inning. I think Keike Hernandez might be into
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pitch him and his helmet might be in the pitchinghead night.
It's a good look at Bobblehead too. You know the
last time a position player came into a game this
early to pitch, I remember, back, this whole game is fertilizer.
That's right when I said that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But you know what, they're going through a lot of
stuff right now, guys, Okay, Taylor and Barnes long standing
guys out man.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, you got a lot of stuff going on here. Yeah, no, NoDEA.
It's like me dealing with the Knicks in the East Finals,
the Hurricanes in the Eastern Finals, the Mets in first place.
I'm dealing with a lot of stuff. Dodger fans dealing
with a lot of stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's a long, long road, right twenty nine and eighteen
on the year, great start to things and then that
seven game winning streak, but otherwise a whole lot of inconsistency, chaos,
pitcher injuries. But Clayton Kershaw's back for the moment, so
that's good. Yeah, yeah, prop you strikeouts closer to three thousand, you.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Think you think they could have waited a day or
two to let Austin Barnes catch him once before they
decided to move on. They could have done that. They
could have said Hey, all right, a couple of games,
a couple of guys. Well, let's just say one more game.
Then you get used to things. Okay, Clayton, is something's
going now. They said it's a new world order. Let's go.
This is this is how we do things in Cleveland. Now, Billy,
I don't know this is how we do it though.
So again, seven to nothing, Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers bottom
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of the thirty and the Doctors can lose four in
a row after getting swept by the Angels.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You seem a little too gleeful on that. I'm not
really lucky there. He'd come and take you out.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No, no, read. The only reason I'd be somewhat gleefles
is because, well, okay, this is gonna take the attention away.
You look, the Mets lost two out of three. Juan
Soto's not hustling. At least they'll take it away from
that boy. The Dodgers looking like Frank and the Shield. Now, yeah,
that contract is coming back down for pen ALNSA was
going up. Now it's coming back down, going up, coming
back down, going up. Pays have a way of working
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themselves out.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
How much would you pay the Rockies tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Smith. I Uh, as far as you know, I did
not pay them anything because they were winning and now
they're losing. So it was you. Yes, it backfired a lot,
and now the Mets are going to be out of
first place. So thank you very much. I appreciate that.
Thank you. We're going to be trailing the Phillies now,
the Phillies who lose one series to the Mets and
it's the end of the world. But yet somehow they
find their way back from the brink every single time,
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which I gotta say that that's a that I do.
I do appreciate that. From Philadelphia sports teams. No team
goes from the season is over. Everybody has quit. We
need to fire everybody and then go on to win
things like the super Bowl or the National League East.
Better than Philadelphia, nobody goes from this is the worst.
And I mean, hey, Mets fans, certain teams, you live
(03:55):
up and down every night. It's a hey, it's either
things are great things are bad, right, but then usually
the next day things reset. With Philadelphia teams, it's this
is the worst thing ever, and we need to disband.
If we didn't play another game, I'd be okay with
it right. The Eagles were at that point, seemingly every
three weeks they won the Super Bowl last year, Nick
Siriotti got paid right Philly, same way they got swept
(04:18):
by the Mets earlier this year, all kinds of problems,
their best relievers suspended eighty games for peds. Doesn't matter, Nope,
We're gonna win. So I really a little bit of jealousy,
But mainly I kind of dig and I want to
point out that nobody comes back from the brink where
everything is awful and it looks like we may not
play the sport anymore, and now here they are winning
like Philadelphia teams. They do that well well.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I mean they are the equivalent of the eighties era
hulk Mania. Not the guy everybody hates now, but the
guy that once upon a time was hanging and banging
and saying, you know, saying your prayers, training and taking
your vitamins and all of that stuff. You know, you're
on the ropes and then all of a sudden you
hulk out and all you know, you get the leg
drop and a way you go. And I mean that's
Philadelphia sports for you, much to your sugarn now TJ.
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Not the only angels having a great weekend or a
bad weekend. The yin and yang for sports Caitlyn Clark
and Angel Reese.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
First of all, I just want to say this. You
thought I was lying. You thought I was being a
little bit too much when I told you before the
WNBA season began. You thought last year the Caitlin Clark
hate and this story was gonna You thought, Okay, now
things will, things will calm down a little bit. What
I tell you, it's gonna be last year on steroids.
And already the Caitlyn Clark Angel Reese foul from the
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opening game of the WNBA season for both teams on Saturday,
where the fever just boat raced the sky ninety three
fifty eight. Do you look like they should be on
the same court with each other. But the foul that
Caitlin Clark committed on Angel Reese stopping a guaranteed basket
has drawn so much scrutiny, and it's the story in
sports of the last forty eight hours. Now. There's a
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lot of angles to it as well. There's a flagrant
foul angle. There's the racist comments that have been thrown
out there, allegedly that the WNBA is looking into that.
Some people on social media said they heard some things
said at the game directed towards Angel Reese. But the
best thing to do with this is to start at
the beginning, right, Let's start at the beginning of this.
This play, this foul by Caitlyn Clark on Angel Reese.
(06:25):
The play, Yes, it is incredibly overblown by Angel Reese. Okay.
And the reason why, now, this is a little bit
different than stuff you've heard. The reason why is because
Caitlyn Clark lives rent free in Angel Reese's head, rent
free in Angel Reese's head. And here's a game where
you know, all of Angel Reese's career has been built
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on her rivalry with Caitlin Clark. Everything has and generally
she has lost to Caitlyn Clark everywhere. Yes, LSU won
and won the national championship in college, but Caitlin Clark
was the better player in college. She is more talented,
she's a better player in the WNBA. She is more popular,
she is more relevant, she's the show. She's it, and
(07:09):
it's not Angel Reese, who still thinks that she should
be and kind of sort of is like, I'm very
popular too. It and Angel Reese is popular in the Star.
She's not Caitlyn Clark. But this rivalry, this play stands
for the rivalry because it was a basketball play. It's
not like Caitlyn Clark went up around Angel Reese's neck
and hit her in the head. She didn't take out
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her legs from under her. She just put her arms
over her arms to stop her from scoring. And Angel
Reaes tried to flop and she fell down and was
embarrassed so got up like she wanted to fight Caitlyn Clark. Right,
all of this is coming to a head in this moment. Right,
She's embarrassed because she's getting worked by Caitlyn Clark and
the fever. And here's a play where Katelyn Clark is
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showing you thought I was big last year, Look how
strong I am now I'll knock your ass to the ground.
Just trying to make a normal play on the ball.
So she flops a little bit, she falls, she's embarrassed,
she gets up, and this whole thing becomes overblown because
of that. But this is because Caitlyn Clark lives rent
free in Angel Reese's head. She's asked about stuff now
(08:12):
comments a Angel Reese's mate. No, don't want to talk
about it. Don't want to talk about it. Hey, you
said last year you were as big a part. Nope,
don't want to talk about it. Hey what about this
play with Angelies? No and with Kateln Clark. No, no, nope,
don't talk about no, no, no basketball play. Let's move on, right.
Does anybody really think these two are really cool with
each other? Of course not. But Caitlyn Clark is the show.
Angel Reese is not. What happened in college is irrelevant.
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This play stands for everything in the WNBA. Caitlyn Clark
commits a foul so Angel Reese won't get a basket.
And oh, by the way, a foul that she would
have never gotten last year about flagrant that would have
never been good if they that happened to Caitlyn Clark
last year. There's no way she's getting that flagrant foul upgraded.
So understand she commits a foul, which is ridiculous to
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upgrade to a flagrant. It's just dumb. The only way
I can see is because hey, the referees want to say,
we may lose control of the game if we don't
make it a flagrant. Nah, I'm sorry, it doesn't mean
you make it a flagrant. That's not a flagrant foul.
If there was something, if Angel Reese's health was at stake,
which is what you look at for flagrant fouls, right, hey,
was the health of this player put at risk? Nowhere
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would that happen, not anywhere. It's a basketball play. It
shouldn't have been a flagrant foul. But this is why,
this is why this exists, because this is Caitlyn Clark
just is overwhelming to all the players, but specifically Angel Reese,
who thought, I'm coming in and it's me too. It's
meat to me, it's me. It's now, it's not really.
You're one of the stars. And Asia Wilson is a
big star, and Brettyanna Stewart's a big star. That's all
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big stars. Kaitlyn Clark is the show. And I don't
know how many times I gotta say it, I'm sorry,
but that's the way it goes. And so to see that,
to see why this happened, why this play unfolded the
way it did, that's the only reason why. Because of that,
that aura of Caitlyn Clark, that Robbie probably lives rent
free in a lot of players heads because the jealousy
level is still there for her coming in and getting
(09:59):
all these things, the w NBA and making money. Okay, wait,
where where's mine? Where's mine? Sorry, it's not how it works, right,
So this is this is why it happened the way
it did, why it unfolded. It was their relationship and
and the situation that exists between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese.
In one play on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, I just gotta chuckle watching, you know, prepping for
the show. I did the Fox Sports Sunday with Dan
Bayer yesterday, and you know, obviously it's raging and you're
watching the you know, the hot take starting to flow
through X and the other media. Uh, and I just
kind of chuckle, and it's like, tell me, you haven't
watched but the four second clip. Without telling me you
(10:35):
haven't watched anything but the four second clip. Nobody except
maybe me is bringing up the fact that Angel Reese
basically ed Reid's Natasha Howard under the baskets right before
that happens again.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right, So, so she forearmed shiviz Aer two.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Hands to the back of the high back towards the neck,
and Caitlyn Clark gestures to the referee like what the
and then gets the ball. So Clark comes over, goes
low right, not up around the head and neck. Plenty
of video from last year where Angel Reese does a
full on swing to Clark's neck as she goes to
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the basket, but goes down low. And yes, there's a
reverse angle where maybe there's a little extra shove. So okay, fine,
upgrade it to a flagrant. Fine it fuels a fire
or whatever. But you know, there's a bit of flopping there.
The excitement. I would have loved to see, you know,
Leah Boston just stand back and let the two have
at it. That would have been fun. We're going maybe
take Caitlin Clark away from it because she turned all right,
(11:34):
foul hand up, move away, But the front part of
that play has not been added to any of this.
That was Caitlyn Clark sticking up for a teammate, right
for all the stuff that we've heard, you know, throughout
the offseason, Right, she got jacked a bit, right, spending
time in the weight room. You see the play on
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the court, and for Angel reason give her credit, like
as a whole, right, she's still gonna be one of
the best rebounders and there's a long way to finish
up and clean up a lot of the rest of him.
But it looked like she was in the gym as
well in terms of her ball handling or whatever. Watching
that game it was, but that kept me captivated.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Once it got to a thirty point burial between Okace
and Denver, guess what I was doing. I was catching
up on Seth Rogan's show, right like, I'm done with this.
I'll see what the final score is and whether any
of the parlays and crazy things that were going on.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Odds wise hit.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But for this, like this was her being a good
teammate that hasn't been talked about nearly enough of picking
up for her team. It's not Caitlin and you know,
a bunch of merriment. They went and people wanted to
come in and there was a great SI article about it.
People wanted to come play in Indiana because of who
she is and what she's about in terms of team basketball.
(12:54):
And that play was started by the fact that she
was sticking up for it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
He made yeah, all back all of it, right. But
but this anything with Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark, and
it's and it's and it's and it's really it's really
something to watch this unfold. But it doesn't get it
doesn't get to this this level unless something like that
is the case. And really, I think, look is with
everybody in the w NBA probably tired of here in
(13:21):
Kitlyn Clark. I don't I can't believe it because I'm like,
all of a sudden, our lives are better. The league
has made it right, No, no, no, no, no. I
guarantee you if you asked the w NBA the players,
at least a third of them would say, what we
want is to be as popular as we are now
and Caitlin Clark to not be in the league. I
guarantee you that's the way we want. Kate. Well, sorry,
you can't have that because you need Kitlyn Clark because
(13:43):
she's the show. Oh no no, But I gary at
least a third of the league they would say that's
what they want. We want to be as parker as
we are, but I want her. God, there's the only
reason why they're on national TV is Caitlyn Clark. I mean,
I'm sorry, this is how it goes, right, Kate Caitlyn
Clark is magic and Larry rolled into one. We said
this year ago it's happening, but boy is this fun.
It's I'll tell you this opening weekend. Baby, Let's go
(14:07):
exit out by a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason Smith
and Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Suitis.
We'll have more on this story coming up next as
well as did we need a little more evidence that
the NBA draft lottery might not be on the level?
Wait to hear what Shaquille O'Neil had to say earlier today.
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rip the knob off. So a little bit more on
the Caitlin Clark Angel restory before we get to shack
In a couple of minutes now, we talked about the
foul and how basically it's pretty simple, Caitlin Clark sticking
up for a teammate who just got pushed in the back.
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She commits the foul on Reese. Reese loses it because
Caitlyn Clark lives rent free in her head, right, that
was more malicious than the foul that Caitlyn Clark committed
on Angel Reese should not have been a flagrant, which
shows you this is how Caitlyn Clark is still going
to get officiated this year. But this story has kind
of gotten to another level now with the reports that
there were some racial comments directed towards Angel Reese and
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towards the sky at some point during this game. Now
it's kind of fuzzy. We don't have a lot of
details on it. There are reports following the game that
if people on social media said they heard some comments
what was said directed towards Angel rees following this play.
Now it's being investigated right away. The Sky put out
a comment, the WNBA put out of comment. The Indiana
(17:21):
Fever put out a couple of comments saying that, hey,
we don't condone this at all, this is not the
place for it. The Fever today said they support the
investigation into what was said. Now we don't know anything,
which is a little weird at this point because you
would think if something like that happened at the game,
we would have a little bit more clarity at this point,
but we don't. But here's the thing, and this is
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why when we talk about how great the Caitlin Clark
Angel Reefs rivalry is, you have to understand it could
get to a bad place, right because all I've seen
today is all the rivalry is great. Yeah, rivalry is
great when the rivalry is born from what happens on
the court trash talk, I'm great, you suck. This is
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getting into a real racial angle now because no matter
how this turns out, it's gonna be bad. Right if
it turns out that that Fever fans were saying things
racially charged towards Angel Reesquess what, here's another example of
Fever fans saying things that are really out out of bounds,
as we had that story on social media last year.
So that's bad for the Fever, it's bad for the WNBA,
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or that there was nothing said or they can't find anything,
and then it's well, was this made up by people
because they were upset at what happened with Caitlin Clark
and Angel Rees? No matter what the story is here,
the WNBA has a real race thing that they have
to take care of, a nip in the butt, because
you want this rivalry to continue to grow, you don't
want to get it to grow along racial tones, right,
(18:47):
That's not how it was. Look Magic and Larry when
they came into the NBA. Yeah, it's easy to say that,
but very quickly it became hey, here's Magic and Larry
on the court against each other. It was Magic winning
three titles and the Lakers winning two, and we moved
past that pretty quickly. But now this is a different time,
it's a different era. It's twenty twenty five, and this
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eraror this undertone of the racial aspect of it has
been there from the beginning with Caitlin Clark, whether it
was racial, whether it was whether it was jealousy, whatever
it was that was out there, and this is a
real easy thing to see get out of control. This
is why the DUB is in a really tough spot
right now because they got to really come out strong
with something no matter how this turns out, whether it's
(19:29):
here's the evidence we found stuff was said, or we
couldn't find anything that was said, Like, you got to
make sure that this rivalry stays on the floor, this
becomes about the league and about play, because that's great rivalries.
Players that hate each other, that's awesome. I'm telling you,
can't tell me the Caitlin Clark and angel ICs are
really cool with each other, because they're not. But no
matter how this turns out, the DUB needs a big statement,
(19:51):
a big thing to do, and I hope they're working
on it right now because you really don't want anything
racial to define this rivalry or what it's going to
be about going forward in the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, and I would have thought if you had something conclusive. Man,
that's Saturday afternoon here we are Monday night almost early
Tuesday morning, East Coast. You'd think that would be a
swift resolution to be able to pinpoint perpetrators working with
the sky and their personnel, Folks on the bench, folks
(20:23):
that would have been you know, maybe not actively involved
in the in the gameplay, but hearing it and more
attentive that you'd come to a solution pretty quickly. So
the longer it goes on, the less optimistic I am
that they come to something substantive. All that say, yeah,
I mean this is swirling in the background, you know,
the the Clark Reese, just the the battle. Look how
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it spawns into the socials and commentary throughout that. There's
always a race angle that that's in the undertones. And
now to have it to where you have perhaps explicit
derid toory, defamatory, pathetic language and racial epithets thrown out
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at a game, I mean that takes it to a
whole other space. And when you're trying to grow your league,
get more sponsors and brands on board, I don't think
it dissuades people all together, but it certainly makes it
a much more difficult proposition. If you can't find source,
If that exists or figure out how to prevent reoccurrences,
(21:31):
because right now you're just hitting a place where I mean, look,
it was a Saturday afternoon standalone, right and nothing else
against it. You have some Major League Baseball games at all,
but you had massive ratings. Hell, I was watching the
game earlier tonight Seattle and Minnesota with Page Beckers, etc.
You've got crowds when people coming out and droves. The
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last thing you want is something that hangs over casting
a Paul and getting all your big thought columnists on
that side of it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Instead of the play exit, how about a Fresco exit
swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Locke from the Fox
Sports Radio studio. So we'll continue to follow this story obviously,
but another thing today, let's just get to this for
everybody who says, oh, yeah, no, I don't know that
the NBA draft lottery could be fixed. Shaquille O'Neil did
a podcast today in which he was asked about the
(22:22):
story of his draft lottery back when he came into
the league way way back in nineteen ninety two, which
I think was many people think that's the same year
the Black Sox fixed the world series. Yes, same year,
nineteen ninety two, here was Shaquille O'Neill's story about the
ninety two NBA draft lottery about how maybe he came
to be taken number one overall by the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
In nineteen ninety two. I think the draft was in
in June. Was on the I meet mister Stearn in
March and he said to me, I know you are
can't wait for you to come to the NBA. Then
he pulled into this, how you want to play where
it's cold or it's hot? He asked me that, Yeah,
he did. He asked me that, and I was like hot,
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and he smiled and I smiled. And then a couple
of days later they had the draft thing and you
know the top three things that that Minnesota was number three.
I was, and hey, Charlotte was number two. In the Orlando,
Florida it was number one house.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So that's on Ashley Neville's podcast. Do you want to
play where it's warm? I'll leave the surfer ski well,
anyway surfing, It'll be Denver or San Diego trading up
to get him. Where do you want to close? It
was the temperature of the envelope. Yeah, We've had some
great success, Shack, you know with cold and hot things. Right,
we got Patrick Ewing to the Knicks. So here's Shack saying, hey,
(23:44):
David Stern said, hey, you want to play where it's
the water, where it's cold tuna. Orlando Magic win your
draft lottery in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
What's funny though, Jason, as you go back in time,
you look at the list, right, so it's Orlando, Charlotte, Minnesota, Dallas, Denver, Washington.
Still the Bullets gets drafted there, Uh, Sacramento, Milwaukee, Philadelphia,
a lot of cold cities that it could have been.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, but hey, you want to play where
it's Hey, we'll give you that hot team number one overall,
Orlando Magic. Right. There's two big takes out of this.
One is this is for the crowd who said, oh yeah,
I could see where in the past you could fix
the NBA draft line, but you can't do it now.
Oh wait wait wait, So so you could fix it
back then, but you can't fix it now. You mean
(24:30):
you'd stop fixing the draft the lottery after you've had
all this success getting players to where they want to go,
getting them to big markets, helping them replace players. We
can't do it now. We could do it in the past,
we can't. Come on, man, you don't stop that. You
only stop it if you get caught Spygate. You only
stop doing that if somebody says, hey, what's that guy
doing that video camera? So, of course you could still
(24:52):
do it now. If you fixed it then, you could
fix it now. You could still find a way to
do it, you know. For you know, I I feel
like so many people want to go halfway in and
say that yeah, I could see maybe in the past,
but not now. I don't want to seem completely out
of touch and say they could never do it. So
I'll say they could do it then, but they can't
(25:12):
do it. No, you could do it then, you could
do it now. Oh but I'm in the room now,
I don't see it all right, Because that's they would
do is they would fix it while you were in
the room watching. That's what they would do is try
to fit not do it before everything came out in
front of everybody. They'd fix it when reporters are in
the room, just before they draw them. That that's when
they would do it. I mean, come on, man, if
they if they fixed it, back then, I say, if
they they could fix it now. So that's the first thing.
(25:34):
Just stop with that. And here's Shack adding more. There's
so much fuel added to this fire. How much smoke
do you need before? Like, how do you defend this?
If you're Adam Silver? How can you keep saying these
teams with a smaller percentage chance, these big teams that
lose players. How can you say that? How can you
sit back and say, yeah, everything's legit. I don't know
(25:54):
what you want me to tell you, Like, I really
you kind of need to address this because it's this
is the tipping point. It's not going away. I get
you don't want to talk about it, but you're the commissioner.
You wanted to be the commission You kind of have
to address this thing.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
No, but that's as we talked about when this all
went down last week. Right, the folks that just want
to jump up and down and shout I've been in
the room multiple times, Well then maybe you got got okay.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Back in nineteen.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Ninety seven, there was a series of shows on Fox
breaking the Magician's Code, the NFNBA Draft Lottery's biggest secrets. Finally,
I mean, I'm sorry magic's biggest secrets finally revealed with
the mask guy, and he showed you how all the
master of illusion work is done. Tell me you can't
find a guy that can do sleight of hand and
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fool you in a draft lottery scenario. And anybody that
wants to say, but they have an accounting firm that
puts their name on it, Yes, because accounting firms have
never gotten in trouble for anything at all, completely spotless
records across what do we do, like bending over backwards,
like yes, is it hard?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Just like with the forty years of draft history going
back to youing, it just so happens that every time
there's that can't miss guy, that generational guy, the team
that is most in need, or where it would be
behoove the league for that guy to find his way
into that uniform, that it accidentally happens. Look, we got
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conspiracy theories of a million things I'm supposed to say, no, no, no,
that I can't possibly happen. It's like anything you're saying,
there's a chance, right, just like the one point eight
percent chance. Everybody's like, if you take a basic statistics class,
one point eight percent, Yes, I get it. You're saying
there's a chance just like this. I never say never
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on anything, right, I've seen enough in my years on
this planet to shrug and go yeah, well yeah, okay,
there you go, politicssities all the way through professional sports
whatever else. How about all those years that everybody said
nothing was going on in baseball? His guys look like
they got the super seer him like Chris evans uh
(28:12):
in the First Avenger.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Nah, nothing to see here? Well if they hoodwink does,
clearly we're no. You were right there in the room.
You claim you didn't see that. But the draft lottery's
gonna be too hard to fix. You all need to
get all over yourself. No, we can't do it. We
get that. No, of course you can, and we keep here.
It's not like we get stories like we've never hear.
I guess, yes, it's hard to prove a negative, but
we don't get stories about how. Oh yeah, well, here
(28:35):
here's why it is. Here's why you can't fix the draft.
Oh okay, okay, okay, here's how you can't do I mean,
you have to understand that it's out there and you
have to address it. If you're Adam Silver, you can't
just let this go because it's taken on a life
of its own. He will and eventually, I know he
doesn't like to do. Oh, this is not gonna help me.
It's not gonna help me. I just want to sit
and look at.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Mine really happy that the Knicks are in the Eastern
Conference finals. We care for were exciting teams. Zero championships
for three of them. And then he and then he
does a little dance.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Can't we just do that? Uh? Now, I will have
for you a conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory coming
up on this time. How about that? Right? I got
a conspiracy theory on a conspiracy theory on the NBA
Draft lottery. I have that again. I'm playing chess while
everybody else is playing checkers. That that's how it goes. Uh.
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But before we get to that time not to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports. But
guy who has been called the deep Blue of Fox
Sports Radio, he's a machine that will beat anybody in chess.
It is Steve de Seger deep Blue.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Right, what is the name of the computer that that
played Jeopardy and beat everybody at Jeopardy?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
That type of.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Thing oh, hang on can wats Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Okay, yeah exactly, or or Ken Jennings.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I believe that's another computer that did pretty well too,
Watson Watson one of the special three day competition in
twenty eleven against Ken Jennings and Brad Rudders.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Ah, there you go, so beat the best.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, hey, how did Watson buzz in? Though? Like, that's
gotta be a that's got it, because they all say
you have to master the buzzer, right, you have to
take time. That's the unfair part.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Absolutely, his magnifying glass. It's like the whole daily fantasy scam. Well,
I guess if your algorithm could make fifty two different lineups?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Sure, all right. We all got three ball games still
going in the major leagues. It's the Royals now up
two nothing at the Giants at the top of the eighth.
Diamondbacks lead seven to one at the Dodgers bottom of
the fifth, one hit for La Mookie Bets home run.
Angels lead at the A's four to two in the
bottom of the fifth. The Phillies record is now twenty
nine and eighteen. Dodgers currently are twenty nine and eighteen.
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Phillies won at Colorado nine to three in a comeback.
Rockies had led three to one going to the seventh inning.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
The Rockies to.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Start the night, We're already twenty and a half games
out in the division. Seattle got a grand slam in
the eighth from Julio Rodriguez and one at the White
Sox five to one. White Sox have lost five in
a row. The win to Luis Castillo with seven scoreless innings.
Milwaukee sent Baltimore to a seventh straight loss, five to
four with a run in the bottom of the eighth.
Cleveland at Minnesota suspended by rain after three innings. It'll continue,
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they hope tomorrow, weather permitting. Saint Louis eleven to four
over Detroit. The win to Sunny Graves five and one.
He threw six scoreless innings with ten strikeouts. Houston won
four to three at Tampa Bay. Boston over the Mets
three to one. The Reds won their fifth straight games
seven to one at Pittsburgh Nick Lodolo. The wins six innings,
seven strikeouts, and Miami scored two runs at the bottom
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of the ninth to beat the Cubs eight to seven.
Despite a home run from the Cubs catcher Miguel Amaya.
He had five RBIs. The Philadelphia Eagles gave coach Nick
Sirianni a contract extension. The forty nine Ers gave linebacker
Fred Warner a three year extension. Brown's quarterback should Were Sanders,
signed his rookie contract. This year's usc Notre Dame game
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is the last one on their current contract, and SI
says usc IS only offered a one year extension. In
the WNBA Tonight one game, Seattle a winner at Dallas
seventy nine to seventy one. Necka Gwoomackay with twenty three
points eighteen rebounds for the losing side. Reque Goonbawala, of course,
just kept shooting, shooting two for fourteen from the floor
(32:26):
and eight points in this defeat. Rookie Page Beckers had
nineteen points eight assisspeck to you.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We'll have more
basketball on the well, just think about that conspiracy theory
on a conspiracy. I'll have that coming up. And straight ahead,
we are less than twenty four hours away from the
NBA playoffs resuming Oklahoma City and Minnesota. Who's going to
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the finals. It's about one player, who that is? And
who's going coming up next? Right here, Jason to Mike,
this is Fox Radio Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon and coming up in a few minutes, I'll
give you that I'm really excited about to have a
conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. All right, Now, I'll
give you a hint. It's about the NBA Draft lottery.
We talked about a few minutes ago because Shaq had
his big podcast day where he said, right before the lottery,
(33:36):
David Stern said, where do you want to play? Where
it's warm? Where it's cold? And then the magic got
the number one pick. But I have a conspiracy theory
on a conspiracy theory, and you're gonna love it. Well,
we already know the next cheat of you. No, dude,
I'm not talking about nineteen eighty five. I'm talking about now.
I'm not talking about thirty five years ago. I'm talking
about now. We're good now, man, We're in the final four.
(33:58):
We're here, We're here, so get ready cheating. I wish
again we did not cheat, Mary mack u no cheating,
no cheating. And even if we did, even if we
did cheat to get youwing, we stunk for the better
part of two decades. Our if we did, our penance
is over, whatever it is for you. We paid our
(34:19):
debt to society. We have moved on. Sounds like what
we went through. Isaiah Thomas, Okay, if that that's what that? Yeah,
that was the Yeah, that was the penalty we had
to pay. So that's what it was. We had Isaiah Thomas. Okay,
Now we moved on, right, we had Isaiah. It's good.
We went through all that and all good. Uh now again,
(34:41):
conspiracy theory on a conspiracy theory coming up in a
few minutes. But we are set for the NBA the
NHL to resume tomorrow night. Thankfully. I feel weird like
we got no hockey, we got no basketball, that we
got anything. Uh but Western Conference Finals begins tomorrow night,
five thirty pm Pacific time, Minnesota and Oklahoma City. Where
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am I going for this pick? This is what I
initially picked? That this is what I picked the Western
Conference Finals to be last year. Before the playoffs started,
I was like, oh my god, I'm so close. Oh
I was so close. Here we are now the two
best young teams in the Western Conference. The Timberwolves clearly
figured things out over the course of the year. A
different mix now because it was Karl Anthony Town's gone
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and Julius Randol and Dante Evincenzo in. They didn't quite
achieve in the regular season like we thought they were
going to, but boy, they hit the playoffs in a
big way, two big eliminations. Going into this series with
the Thunder who ran roughshod over the rest of the NBA.
I'm going Oklahoma City over Minnesota in six for a
couple of reasons, but mainly, and I'll give you that.
(35:47):
The minor one is I like the thunders defense a
little bit more than Minnesota's, right, The consistency of the
Thunders defense I like a little bit more. Look, they
put Caruso on Jokichen Game seven, and my goodness, did
that work like that? Like that's not something he would
think to be. That's something dialed up in a lab.
We're gonna put Caruso on you wait what oh wait,
and he fronted him, didn't let him get the basketball
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where he was where he was used to doing. It
made him uncomfortable, Like I really like what the Thunder
defense can do. But mainly I come down to this, Mike,
I am more confident that I am going to get
a consistently great playoff series from Shay Gilders Alexander than
I am from Ann Edwards. Edwards, as great as he is,
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still has that pension or tendency to disappear a bit,
still has that pension or tendency to not quite lead.
How the Tea Wulves want to remember was just the ten
days ago where Chris Finch was like, hey, I needed
more out of Anthony Edwards. Anthony, did you need to
play harder? No? No, I thought I played pretty well.
Oh okay, But he's still he's not quite he does.
(36:49):
He doesn't quite have that leadership that get on my back.
I don't get that every game showing up to kill
you like I get from SGA. Right, it's just a
and it's a subtle thing. But when you're talking about
the two best players in this series, that that are
two of the best young players in the game, and
SGA is gonna win the m v P this year.
Edwards will win one at some point. I'm sure these
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guys are both, you know, I'm well on the right
side of thirty. They're gonna help carry the league for
a long time. I am more confidence in the overall
consistency over the course of what could be a seven
game series in SGA than I am with Edwards. I
can't see that to a degree.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Sure, some of the passivity at times from Edwards, you know,
the wait for the game to come to you kind
of moments. I could see that for you pick the
Wolves before we started this playoff run, so I can't
back away from them now.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now I'm gonna stick with them, man stick.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
You know, I love my guys, Chet and Dort and
the whole nine yards and what they bring to the table,
and and Chet's walking double double double double. But you know,
your SGA ant thing is certainly relevant. It'll be a
curiosity of which wing defenders really come to bear. Not
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on the defensive end, because I think we get great
effort there, but who where's your scoring coming from?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Where where are the secondary players going to make their impact?
You know, is this one where where go beart is
a bigger deal. You know that, that kind of situational basketball.
But yeah, I picked the Wolves before it. I've got
to stay with it. I'll be I'll use the cheat
code and say that it even gets to that dreaded
seventh game, but enough for the Wolves to get over.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Those I'll go thunder and six. It's it lines up
that way for the thunder side. I'm telling you it's
it's not gonna be it's not gonna be an easy series.
I'm not saying it's not gonna be a rollover so
the world. It's just great basketball. I mean real, we
are gonna see some phenomenal basketball. But overall, like there's
gonna be one or two games where the thunder are
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going to win and we're gonna say, boy, that was
a bad game from and Edwards or boy he really
need to do a little bit more in that game,
right that. I think that'll happen twice in this series.
And I don't know they we're gonna get that once
from SGA. I really don't. I really don't think that's
gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, let me ask the one one question that's the
obvious about it, and you know, we we have to
ask it. When SGA is involved, how much do you
get to bang on him a little bit? Because watching
the game look and it got out of sorts in
Game seven with with the Nuggets pretty fast. But like
the Alex Caruso and what he was able to do
physically with NICOLEA. Jokic, is it because he's bigger?
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You you coached soccer? How often did you have you
know your your defender could get thrown around by a
forward and doesn't get a call because you know your
defender's stout and has some size, right, And from Nicola Jokic,
it seemed like Cruso was able to do whatever he could. Uh,
and you're you're not necessarily getting the same call, whereas
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with SGA, he's initiating all sorts of contact. All right,
He's gonna go live at the foul line. Is is
that how this plays out? Or do they let him
muddy it up a bit because if they do advantage
Minnesota in a huge way.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, the money up is
a good point, But I think that the league is
a little worried about what a really big defensive series
is going to look like. But they want points on
the board. They want Sga and n Edwards to go
for forty a piece in every game. So I think
it's gonna be I would say, because the NBA knows
what they're doing when they assign referees, I would think
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this series will be assigned a little bit looser, whereas
the Knicks and the Pacers series may be a little
bit tighter. I forget who it was.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Someone posted the for folks interested in this thing, and
it was like a Facebook page of all the officials.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
That will be working these two series.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Game one tomorrow to sixteen. You're over under Thunder a
seven and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I got Thunder and six. Mike has the Minnesota Chimberwolves
in seven. His t Wolves is deals INDs seven. Uh, yes, tomorrow,
and of course we'll pick the Knicks Pacer series. But
come on, really, do I need to pick that Knicks
and PACs said? For Nick said, but you're only saying
that because I'm picking the Knicks. It's the only reason.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I mean, Look, we've got to have our Haliburton Brunson
WWE style.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Coming up next. More from the NBA that conspiracy theory
on a conspiracy theory, plus more
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon, Heat Live from the
tirec to Dotcom Studios, where I'll tell you what not
the greatest last four days for the Dodgers swept by
the Angels for about the Mets since I think since
(00:50):
since Bobolinsky was pitching for the Angels, that's a good
at Pete A Lonzo would be an improvement for you.
The last couple of nights. Right now, middle of the
third inning, the Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers seven to nothing.
Landon Nak has come in and given up four runs
in an inning. I think Keike Hernandez might be into
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pitch him and his helmet might be in the pitchinghead night.
It's a good look at Bobblehead too. You know the
last time a position player came into a game this
early to pitch, I remember, back, this whole game is fertilizer.
That's right when I said that.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But you know what, they're going through a lot of
stuff right now, guys, Okay, Taylor and Barnes long standing
guys out man.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, you got a lot of stuff going on here. Yeah, no, NoDEA.
It's like me dealing with the Knicks in the East Finals,
the Hurricanes in the Eastern Finals, the Mets in first place.
I'm dealing with a lot of stuff. Dodger fans dealing
with a lot of stuff as well.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's a long, long road, right twenty nine and eighteen
on the year, great start to things and then that
seven game winning streak, but otherwise a whole lot of inconsistency, chaos,
pitcher injuries. But Clayton Kershaw's back for the moment, so
that's good. Yeah, yeah, prop you strikeouts closer to three thousand, you.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Think you think they could have waited a day or
two to let Austin Barnes catch him once before they
decided to move on. They could have done that. They
could have said Hey, all right, a couple of games,
a couple of guys. Well, let's just say one more game.
Then you get used to things. Okay, Clayton, is something's
going now. They said it's a new world order. Let's go.
This is this is how we do things in Cleveland. Now, Billy,
I don't know this is how we do it though.
So again, seven to nothing, Diamondbacks lead the Dodgers bottom
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of the thirty and the Doctors can lose four in
a row after getting swept by the Angels.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You seem a little too gleeful on that. I'm not
really lucky there. He'd come and take you out.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No, no, read. The only reason I'd be somewhat gleefles
is because, well, okay, this is gonna take the attention away.
You look, the Mets lost two out of three. Juan
Soto's not hustling. At least they'll take it away from
that boy. The Dodgers looking like Frank and the Shield. Now, yeah,
that contract is coming back down for pen ALNSA was
going up. Now it's coming back down, going up, coming
back down, going up. Pays have a way of working
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themselves out.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
How much would you pay the Rockies tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Smith. I Uh, as far as you know, I did
not pay them anything because they were winning and now
they're losing. So it was you. Yes, it backfired a lot,
and now the Mets are going to be out of
first place. So thank you very much. I appreciate that.
Thank you. We're going to be trailing the Phillies now,
the Phillies who lose one series to the Mets and
it's the end of the world. But yet somehow they
find their way back from the brink every single time,
(03:33):
which I gotta say that that's a that I do.
I do appreciate that. From Philadelphia sports teams. No team
goes from the season is over. Everybody has quit. We
need to fire everybody and then go on to win
things like the super Bowl or the National League East.
Better than Philadelphia, nobody goes from this is the worst.
And I mean, hey, Mets fans, certain teams, you live
(03:55):
up and down every night. It's a hey, it's either
things are great things are bad, right, but then usually
the next day things reset. With Philadelphia teams, it's this
is the worst thing ever, and we need to disband.
If we didn't play another game, I'd be okay with
it right. The Eagles were at that point, seemingly every
three weeks they won the Super Bowl last year, Nick
Siriotti got paid right Philly, same way they got swept
(04:18):
by the Mets earlier this year, all kinds of problems,
their best relievers suspended eighty games for peds. Doesn't matter, Nope,
We're gonna win. So I really a little bit of jealousy,
But mainly I kind of dig and I want to
point out that nobody comes back from the brink where
everything is awful and it looks like we may not
play the sport anymore, and now here they are winning
like Philadelphia teams. They do that well well.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I mean they are the equivalent of the eighties era
hulk Mania. Not the guy everybody hates now, but the
guy that once upon a time was hanging and banging
and saying, you know, saying your prayers, training and taking
your vitamins and all of that stuff. You know, you're
on the ropes and then all of a sudden you
hulk out and all you know, you get the leg
drop and a way you go. And I mean that's
Philadelphia sports for you, much to your sugarn now TJ.
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Not the only angels having a great weekend or a
bad weekend. The yin and yang for sports Caitlyn Clark
and Angel Reese.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
First of all, I just want to say this. You
thought I was lying. You thought I was being a
little bit too much when I told you before the
WNBA season began. You thought last year the Caitlin Clark
hate and this story was gonna You thought, Okay, now
things will, things will calm down a little bit. What
I tell you, it's gonna be last year on steroids.
And already the Caitlyn Clark Angel Reese foul from the
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opening game of the WNBA season for both teams on Saturday,
where the fever just boat raced the sky ninety three
fifty eight. Do you look like they should be on
the same court with each other. But the foul that
Caitlin Clark committed on Angel Reese stopping a guaranteed basket
has drawn so much scrutiny, and it's the story in
sports of the last forty eight hours. Now. There's a
(06:02):
lot of angles to it as well. There's a flagrant
foul angle. There's the racist comments that have been thrown
out there, allegedly that the WNBA is looking into that.
Some people on social media said they heard some things
said at the game directed towards Angel Reese. But the
best thing to do with this is to start at
the beginning, right, Let's start at the beginning of this.
This play, this foul by Caitlyn Clark on Angel Reese.
(06:25):
The play, Yes, it is incredibly overblown by Angel Reese. Okay.
And the reason why, now, this is a little bit
different than stuff you've heard. The reason why is because
Caitlyn Clark lives rent free in Angel Reese's head, rent
free in Angel Reese's head. And here's a game where
you know, all of Angel Reese's career has been built
(06:46):
on her rivalry with Caitlin Clark. Everything has and generally
she has lost to Caitlyn Clark everywhere. Yes, LSU won
and won the national championship in college, but Caitlin Clark
was the better player in college. She is more talented,
she's a better player in the WNBA. She is more popular,
she is more relevant, she's the show. She's it, and
(07:09):
it's not Angel Reese, who still thinks that she should
be and kind of sort of is like, I'm very
popular too. It and Angel Reese is popular in the Star.
She's not Caitlyn Clark. But this rivalry, this play stands
for the rivalry because it was a basketball play. It's
not like Caitlyn Clark went up around Angel Reese's neck
and hit her in the head. She didn't take out
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her legs from under her. She just put her arms
over her arms to stop her from scoring. And Angel
Reaes tried to flop and she fell down and was
embarrassed so got up like she wanted to fight Caitlyn Clark. Right,
all of this is coming to a head in this moment. Right,
She's embarrassed because she's getting worked by Caitlyn Clark and
the fever. And here's a play where Katelyn Clark is
(07:51):
showing you thought I was big last year, Look how
strong I am now I'll knock your ass to the ground.
Just trying to make a normal play on the ball.
So she flops a little bit, she falls, she's embarrassed,
she gets up, and this whole thing becomes overblown because
of that. But this is because Caitlyn Clark lives rent
free in Angel Reese's head. She's asked about stuff now
(08:12):
comments a Angel Reese's mate. No, don't want to talk
about it. Don't want to talk about it. Hey, you
said last year you were as big a part. Nope,
don't want to talk about it. Hey what about this
play with Angelies? No and with Kateln Clark. No, no, nope,
don't talk about no, no, no basketball play. Let's move on, right.
Does anybody really think these two are really cool with
each other? Of course not. But Caitlyn Clark is the show.
Angel Reese is not. What happened in college is irrelevant.
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This play stands for everything in the WNBA. Caitlyn Clark
commits a foul so Angel Reese won't get a basket.
And oh, by the way, a foul that she would
have never gotten last year about flagrant that would have
never been good if they that happened to Caitlyn Clark
last year. There's no way she's getting that flagrant foul upgraded.
So understand she commits a foul, which is ridiculous to
(08:55):
upgrade to a flagrant. It's just dumb. The only way
I can see is because hey, the referees want to say,
we may lose control of the game if we don't
make it a flagrant. Nah, I'm sorry, it doesn't mean
you make it a flagrant. That's not a flagrant foul.
If there was something, if Angel Reese's health was at stake,
which is what you look at for flagrant fouls, right, hey,
was the health of this player put at risk? Nowhere
(09:16):
would that happen, not anywhere. It's a basketball play. It
shouldn't have been a flagrant foul. But this is why,
this is why this exists, because this is Caitlyn Clark
just is overwhelming to all the players, but specifically Angel Reese,
who thought, I'm coming in and it's me too. It's
meat to me, it's me. It's now, it's not really.
You're one of the stars. And Asia Wilson is a
big star, and Brettyanna Stewart's a big star. That's all
(09:38):
big stars. Kaitlyn Clark is the show. And I don't
know how many times I gotta say it, I'm sorry,
but that's the way it goes. And so to see that,
to see why this happened, why this play unfolded the
way it did, that's the only reason why. Because of that,
that aura of Caitlyn Clark, that Robbie probably lives rent
free in a lot of players heads because the jealousy
level is still there for her coming in and getting
(09:59):
all these things, the w NBA and making money. Okay, wait,
where where's mine? Where's mine? Sorry, it's not how it works, right,
So this is this is why it happened the way
it did, why it unfolded. It was their relationship and
and the situation that exists between Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese.
In one play on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, I just gotta chuckle watching, you know, prepping for
the show. I did the Fox Sports Sunday with Dan
Bayer yesterday, and you know, obviously it's raging and you're
watching the you know, the hot take starting to flow
through X and the other media. Uh, and I just
kind of chuckle, and it's like, tell me, you haven't
watched but the four second clip. Without telling me you
(10:35):
haven't watched anything but the four second clip. Nobody except
maybe me is bringing up the fact that Angel Reese
basically ed Reid's Natasha Howard under the baskets right before
that happens again.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right, So, so she forearmed shiviz Aer two.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Hands to the back of the high back towards the neck,
and Caitlyn Clark gestures to the referee like what the
and then gets the ball. So Clark comes over, goes
low right, not up around the head and neck. Plenty
of video from last year where Angel Reese does a
full on swing to Clark's neck as she goes to
(11:12):
the basket, but goes down low. And yes, there's a
reverse angle where maybe there's a little extra shove. So okay, fine,
upgrade it to a flagrant. Fine it fuels a fire
or whatever. But you know, there's a bit of flopping there.
The excitement. I would have loved to see, you know,
Leah Boston just stand back and let the two have
at it. That would have been fun. We're going maybe
take Caitlin Clark away from it because she turned all right,
(11:34):
foul hand up, move away, But the front part of
that play has not been added to any of this.
That was Caitlyn Clark sticking up for a teammate, right
for all the stuff that we've heard, you know, throughout
the offseason, Right, she got jacked a bit, right, spending
time in the weight room. You see the play on
(11:54):
the court, and for Angel reason give her credit, like
as a whole, right, she's still gonna be one of
the best rebounders and there's a long way to finish
up and clean up a lot of the rest of him.
But it looked like she was in the gym as
well in terms of her ball handling or whatever. Watching
that game it was, but that kept me captivated.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Once it got to a thirty point burial between Okace
and Denver, guess what I was doing. I was catching
up on Seth Rogan's show, right like, I'm done with this.
I'll see what the final score is and whether any
of the parlays and crazy things that were going on.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Odds wise hit.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But for this, like this was her being a good
teammate that hasn't been talked about nearly enough of picking
up for her team. It's not Caitlin and you know,
a bunch of merriment. They went and people wanted to
come in and there was a great SI article about it.
People wanted to come play in Indiana because of who
she is and what she's about in terms of team basketball.
(12:54):
And that play was started by the fact that she
was sticking up for it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
He made yeah, all back all of it, right. But
but this anything with Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark, and
it's and it's and it's and it's really it's really
something to watch this unfold. But it doesn't get it
doesn't get to this this level unless something like that
is the case. And really, I think, look is with
everybody in the w NBA probably tired of here in
(13:21):
Kitlyn Clark. I don't I can't believe it because I'm like,
all of a sudden, our lives are better. The league
has made it right, No, no, no, no, no. I
guarantee you if you asked the w NBA the players,
at least a third of them would say, what we
want is to be as popular as we are now
and Caitlin Clark to not be in the league. I
guarantee you that's the way we want. Kate. Well, sorry,
you can't have that because you need Kitlyn Clark because
(13:43):
she's the show. Oh no no, But I gary at
least a third of the league they would say that's
what they want. We want to be as parker as
we are, but I want her. God, there's the only
reason why they're on national TV is Caitlyn Clark. I mean,
I'm sorry, this is how it goes, right, Kate Caitlyn
Clark is magic and Larry rolled into one. We said
this year ago it's happening, but boy is this fun.
It's I'll tell you this opening weekend. Baby, Let's go
(14:07):
exit out by a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason Smith
and Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Suitis.
We'll have more on this story coming up next as
well as did we need a little more evidence that
the NBA draft lottery might not be on the level?
Wait to hear what Shaquille O'Neil had to say earlier today.
(14:27):
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rip the knob off. So a little bit more on
the Caitlin Clark Angel restory before we get to shack
In a couple of minutes now, we talked about the
foul and how basically it's pretty simple, Caitlin Clark sticking
up for a teammate who just got pushed in the back.
(16:36):
She commits the foul on Reese. Reese loses it because
Caitlyn Clark lives rent free in her head, right, that
was more malicious than the foul that Caitlyn Clark committed
on Angel Reese should not have been a flagrant, which
shows you this is how Caitlyn Clark is still going
to get officiated this year. But this story has kind
of gotten to another level now with the reports that
there were some racial comments directed towards Angel Reese and
(16:59):
towards the sky at some point during this game. Now
it's kind of fuzzy. We don't have a lot of
details on it. There are reports following the game that
if people on social media said they heard some comments
what was said directed towards Angel rees following this play.
Now it's being investigated right away. The Sky put out
a comment, the WNBA put out of comment. The Indiana
(17:21):
Fever put out a couple of comments saying that, hey,
we don't condone this at all, this is not the
place for it. The Fever today said they support the
investigation into what was said. Now we don't know anything,
which is a little weird at this point because you
would think if something like that happened at the game,
we would have a little bit more clarity at this point,
but we don't. But here's the thing, and this is
(17:44):
why when we talk about how great the Caitlin Clark
Angel Reefs rivalry is, you have to understand it could
get to a bad place, right because all I've seen
today is all the rivalry is great. Yeah, rivalry is
great when the rivalry is born from what happens on
the court trash talk, I'm great, you suck. This is
(18:05):
getting into a real racial angle now because no matter
how this turns out, it's gonna be bad. Right if
it turns out that that Fever fans were saying things
racially charged towards Angel Reesquess what, here's another example of
Fever fans saying things that are really out out of bounds,
as we had that story on social media last year.
So that's bad for the Fever, it's bad for the WNBA,
(18:26):
or that there was nothing said or they can't find anything,
and then it's well, was this made up by people
because they were upset at what happened with Caitlin Clark
and Angel Rees? No matter what the story is here,
the WNBA has a real race thing that they have
to take care of, a nip in the butt, because
you want this rivalry to continue to grow, you don't
want to get it to grow along racial tones, right,
(18:47):
That's not how it was. Look Magic and Larry when
they came into the NBA. Yeah, it's easy to say that,
but very quickly it became hey, here's Magic and Larry
on the court against each other. It was Magic winning
three titles and the Lakers winning two, and we moved
past that pretty quickly. But now this is a different time,
it's a different era. It's twenty twenty five, and this
(19:07):
eraror this undertone of the racial aspect of it has
been there from the beginning with Caitlin Clark, whether it
was racial, whether it was whether it was jealousy, whatever
it was that was out there, and this is a
real easy thing to see get out of control. This
is why the DUB is in a really tough spot
right now because they got to really come out strong
with something no matter how this turns out, whether it's
(19:29):
here's the evidence we found stuff was said, or we
couldn't find anything that was said, Like, you got to
make sure that this rivalry stays on the floor, this
becomes about the league and about play, because that's great rivalries.
Players that hate each other, that's awesome. I'm telling you,
can't tell me the Caitlin Clark and angel ICs are
really cool with each other, because they're not. But no
matter how this turns out, the DUB needs a big statement,
(19:51):
a big thing to do, and I hope they're working
on it right now because you really don't want anything
racial to define this rivalry or what it's going to
be about going forward in the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, and I would have thought if you had something conclusive. Man,
that's Saturday afternoon here we are Monday night almost early
Tuesday morning, East Coast. You'd think that would be a
swift resolution to be able to pinpoint perpetrators working with
the sky and their personnel, Folks on the bench, folks
(20:23):
that would have been you know, maybe not actively involved
in the in the gameplay, but hearing it and more
attentive that you'd come to a solution pretty quickly. So
the longer it goes on, the less optimistic I am
that they come to something substantive. All that say, yeah,
I mean this is swirling in the background, you know,
the the Clark Reese, just the the battle. Look how
(20:46):
it spawns into the socials and commentary throughout that. There's
always a race angle that that's in the undertones. And
now to have it to where you have perhaps explicit
derid toory, defamatory, pathetic language and racial epithets thrown out
(21:07):
at a game, I mean that takes it to a
whole other space. And when you're trying to grow your league,
get more sponsors and brands on board, I don't think
it dissuades people all together, but it certainly makes it
a much more difficult proposition. If you can't find source,
If that exists or figure out how to prevent reoccurrences,
(21:31):
because right now you're just hitting a place where I mean, look,
it was a Saturday afternoon standalone, right and nothing else
against it. You have some Major League Baseball games at all,
but you had massive ratings. Hell, I was watching the
game earlier tonight Seattle and Minnesota with Page Beckers, etc.
You've got crowds when people coming out and droves. The
(21:51):
last thing you want is something that hangs over casting
a Paul and getting all your big thought columnists on
that side of it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Instead of the play exit, how about a Fresco exit
swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Locke from the Fox
Sports Radio studio. So we'll continue to follow this story obviously,
but another thing today, let's just get to this for
everybody who says, oh, yeah, no, I don't know that
the NBA draft lottery could be fixed. Shaquille O'Neil did
a podcast today in which he was asked about the
(22:22):
story of his draft lottery back when he came into
the league way way back in nineteen ninety two, which
I think was many people think that's the same year
the Black Sox fixed the world series. Yes, same year,
nineteen ninety two, here was Shaquille O'Neill's story about the
ninety two NBA draft lottery about how maybe he came
to be taken number one overall by the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
In nineteen ninety two. I think the draft was in
in June. Was on the I meet mister Stearn in
March and he said to me, I know you are
can't wait for you to come to the NBA. Then
he pulled into this, how you want to play where
it's cold or it's hot? He asked me that, Yeah,
he did. He asked me that, and I was like hot,
(23:08):
and he smiled and I smiled. And then a couple
of days later they had the draft thing and you
know the top three things that that Minnesota was number three.
I was, and hey, Charlotte was number two. In the Orlando,
Florida it was number one house.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So that's on Ashley Neville's podcast. Do you want to
play where it's warm? I'll leave the surfer ski well,
anyway surfing, It'll be Denver or San Diego trading up
to get him. Where do you want to close? It
was the temperature of the envelope. Yeah, We've had some
great success, Shack, you know with cold and hot things. Right,
we got Patrick Ewing to the Knicks. So here's Shack saying, hey,
(23:44):
David Stern said, hey, you want to play where it's
the water, where it's cold tuna. Orlando Magic win your
draft lottery in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
What's funny though, Jason, as you go back in time,
you look at the list, right, so it's Orlando, Charlotte, Minnesota, Dallas, Denver, Washington.
Still the Bullets gets drafted there, Uh, Sacramento, Milwaukee, Philadelphia,
a lot of cold cities that it could have been.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, but hey, you want to play where
it's Hey, we'll give you that hot team number one overall,
Orlando Magic. Right. There's two big takes out of this.
One is this is for the crowd who said, oh yeah,
I could see where in the past you could fix
the NBA draft line, but you can't do it now.
Oh wait wait wait, So so you could fix it
back then, but you can't fix it now. You mean
(24:30):
you'd stop fixing the draft the lottery after you've had
all this success getting players to where they want to go,
getting them to big markets, helping them replace players. We
can't do it now. We could do it in the past,
we can't. Come on, man, you don't stop that. You
only stop it if you get caught Spygate. You only
stop doing that if somebody says, hey, what's that guy
doing that video camera? So, of course you could still
(24:52):
do it now. If you fixed it then, you could
fix it now. You could still find a way to
do it, you know. For you know, I I feel
like so many people want to go halfway in and
say that yeah, I could see maybe in the past,
but not now. I don't want to seem completely out
of touch and say they could never do it. So
I'll say they could do it then, but they can't
(25:12):
do it. No, you could do it then, you could
do it now. Oh but I'm in the room now,
I don't see it all right, Because that's they would
do is they would fix it while you were in
the room watching. That's what they would do is try
to fit not do it before everything came out in
front of everybody. They'd fix it when reporters are in
the room, just before they draw them. That that's when
they would do it. I mean, come on, man, if
they if they fixed it, back then, I say, if
they they could fix it now. So that's the first thing.
(25:34):
Just stop with that. And here's Shack adding more. There's
so much fuel added to this fire. How much smoke
do you need before? Like, how do you defend this?
If you're Adam Silver? How can you keep saying these
teams with a smaller percentage chance, these big teams that
lose players. How can you say that? How can you
sit back and say, yeah, everything's legit. I don't know
(25:54):
what you want me to tell you, Like, I really
you kind of need to address this because it's this
is the tipping point. It's not going away. I get
you don't want to talk about it, but you're the commissioner.
You wanted to be the commission You kind of have
to address this thing.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
No, but that's as we talked about when this all
went down last week. Right, the folks that just want
to jump up and down and shout I've been in
the room multiple times, Well then maybe you got got okay.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Back in nineteen.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Ninety seven, there was a series of shows on Fox
breaking the Magician's Code, the NFNBA Draft Lottery's biggest secrets. Finally,
I mean, I'm sorry magic's biggest secrets finally revealed with
the mask guy, and he showed you how all the
master of illusion work is done. Tell me you can't
find a guy that can do sleight of hand and
(26:43):
fool you in a draft lottery scenario. And anybody that
wants to say, but they have an accounting firm that
puts their name on it, Yes, because accounting firms have
never gotten in trouble for anything at all, completely spotless
records across what do we do, like bending over backwards,
like yes, is it hard?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Just like with the forty years of draft history going
back to youing, it just so happens that every time
there's that can't miss guy, that generational guy, the team
that is most in need, or where it would be
behoove the league for that guy to find his way
into that uniform, that it accidentally happens. Look, we got
(27:28):
conspiracy theories of a million things I'm supposed to say, no, no, no,
that I can't possibly happen. It's like anything you're saying,
there's a chance, right, just like the one point eight
percent chance. Everybody's like, if you take a basic statistics class,
one point eight percent, Yes, I get it. You're saying
there's a chance just like this. I never say never
(27:50):
on anything, right, I've seen enough in my years on
this planet to shrug and go yeah, well yeah, okay,
there you go, politicssities all the way through professional sports
whatever else. How about all those years that everybody said
nothing was going on in baseball? His guys look like
they got the super seer him like Chris evans uh
(28:12):
in the First Avenger.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Nah, nothing to see here? Well if they hoodwink does,
clearly we're no. You were right there in the room.
You claim you didn't see that. But the draft lottery's
gonna be too hard to fix. You all need to
get all over yourself. No, we can't do it. We
get that. No, of course you can, and we keep here.
It's not like we get stories like we've never hear.
I guess, yes, it's hard to prove a negative, but
we don't get stories about how. Oh yeah, well, here
(28:35):
here's why it is. Here's why you can't fix the draft.
Oh okay, okay, okay, here's how you can't do I mean,
you have to understand that it's out there and you
have to address it. If you're Adam Silver, you can't
just let this go because it's taken on a life
of its own. He will and eventually, I know he
doesn't like to do. Oh, this is not gonna help me.
It's not gonna help me. I just want to sit
and look at.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Mine really happy that the Knicks are in the Eastern
Conference finals. We care for were exciting teams. Zero championships
for three of them. And then he and then he
does a little dance.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Can't we just do that? Uh? Now, I will have
for you a conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory coming
up on this time. How about that? Right? I got
a conspiracy theory on a conspiracy theory on the NBA
Draft lottery. I have that again. I'm playing chess while
everybody else is playing checkers. That that's how it goes. Uh.
(29:25):
But before we get to that time not to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports. But
guy who has been called the deep Blue of Fox
Sports Radio, he's a machine that will beat anybody in chess.
It is Steve de Seger deep Blue.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Right, what is the name of the computer that that
played Jeopardy and beat everybody at Jeopardy?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
That type of.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Thing oh, hang on can wats Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Okay, yeah exactly, or or Ken Jennings.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I believe that's another computer that did pretty well too,
Watson Watson one of the special three day competition in
twenty eleven against Ken Jennings and Brad Rudders.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Ah, there you go, so beat the best.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, hey, how did Watson buzz in? Though? Like, that's
gotta be a that's got it, because they all say
you have to master the buzzer, right, you have to
take time. That's the unfair part.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Absolutely, his magnifying glass. It's like the whole daily fantasy scam. Well,
I guess if your algorithm could make fifty two different lineups?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Sure, all right. We all got three ball games still
going in the major leagues. It's the Royals now up
two nothing at the Giants at the top of the eighth.
Diamondbacks lead seven to one at the Dodgers bottom of
the fifth, one hit for La Mookie Bets home run.
Angels lead at the A's four to two in the
bottom of the fifth. The Phillies record is now twenty
nine and eighteen. Dodgers currently are twenty nine and eighteen.
(30:50):
Phillies won at Colorado nine to three in a comeback.
Rockies had led three to one going to the seventh inning.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
The Rockies to.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Start the night, We're already twenty and a half games
out in the division. Seattle got a grand slam in
the eighth from Julio Rodriguez and one at the White
Sox five to one. White Sox have lost five in
a row. The win to Luis Castillo with seven scoreless innings.
Milwaukee sent Baltimore to a seventh straight loss, five to
four with a run in the bottom of the eighth.
Cleveland at Minnesota suspended by rain after three innings. It'll continue,
(31:21):
they hope tomorrow, weather permitting. Saint Louis eleven to four
over Detroit. The win to Sunny Graves five and one.
He threw six scoreless innings with ten strikeouts. Houston won
four to three at Tampa Bay. Boston over the Mets
three to one. The Reds won their fifth straight games
seven to one at Pittsburgh Nick Lodolo. The wins six innings,
seven strikeouts, and Miami scored two runs at the bottom
(31:43):
of the ninth to beat the Cubs eight to seven.
Despite a home run from the Cubs catcher Miguel Amaya.
He had five RBIs. The Philadelphia Eagles gave coach Nick
Sirianni a contract extension. The forty nine Ers gave linebacker
Fred Warner a three year extension. Brown's quarterback should Were Sanders,
signed his rookie contract. This year's usc Notre Dame game
(32:04):
is the last one on their current contract, and SI
says usc IS only offered a one year extension. In
the WNBA Tonight one game, Seattle a winner at Dallas
seventy nine to seventy one. Necka Gwoomackay with twenty three
points eighteen rebounds for the losing side. Reque Goonbawala, of course,
just kept shooting, shooting two for fourteen from the floor
(32:26):
and eight points in this defeat. Rookie Page Beckers had
nineteen points eight assisspeck to you.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We'll have more
basketball on the well, just think about that conspiracy theory
on a conspiracy. I'll have that coming up. And straight ahead,
we are less than twenty four hours away from the
NBA playoffs resuming Oklahoma City and Minnesota. Who's going to
(32:55):
the finals. It's about one player, who that is? And
who's going coming up next? Right here, Jason to Mike,
this is Fox Radio Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (33:15):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon and coming up in a few minutes, I'll
give you that I'm really excited about to have a
conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. All right, Now, I'll
give you a hint. It's about the NBA Draft lottery.
We talked about a few minutes ago because Shaq had
his big podcast day where he said, right before the lottery,
(33:36):
David Stern said, where do you want to play? Where
it's warm? Where it's cold? And then the magic got
the number one pick. But I have a conspiracy theory
on a conspiracy theory, and you're gonna love it. Well,
we already know the next cheat of you. No, dude,
I'm not talking about nineteen eighty five. I'm talking about now.
I'm not talking about thirty five years ago. I'm talking
about now. We're good now, man, We're in the final four.
(33:58):
We're here, We're here, so get ready cheating. I wish
again we did not cheat, Mary mack u no cheating,
no cheating. And even if we did, even if we
did cheat to get youwing, we stunk for the better
part of two decades. Our if we did, our penance
is over, whatever it is for you. We paid our
(34:19):
debt to society. We have moved on. Sounds like what
we went through. Isaiah Thomas, Okay, if that that's what that? Yeah,
that was the Yeah, that was the penalty we had
to pay. So that's what it was. We had Isaiah Thomas. Okay,
Now we moved on, right, we had Isaiah. It's good.
We went through all that and all good. Uh now again,
(34:41):
conspiracy theory on a conspiracy theory coming up in a
few minutes. But we are set for the NBA the
NHL to resume tomorrow night. Thankfully. I feel weird like
we got no hockey, we got no basketball, that we
got anything. Uh but Western Conference Finals begins tomorrow night,
five thirty pm Pacific time, Minnesota and Oklahoma City. Where
(35:04):
am I going for this pick? This is what I
initially picked? That this is what I picked the Western
Conference Finals to be last year. Before the playoffs started,
I was like, oh my god, I'm so close. Oh
I was so close. Here we are now the two
best young teams in the Western Conference. The Timberwolves clearly
figured things out over the course of the year. A
different mix now because it was Karl Anthony Town's gone
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and Julius Randol and Dante Evincenzo in. They didn't quite
achieve in the regular season like we thought they were
going to, but boy, they hit the playoffs in a
big way, two big eliminations. Going into this series with
the Thunder who ran roughshod over the rest of the NBA.
I'm going Oklahoma City over Minnesota in six for a
couple of reasons, but mainly, and I'll give you that.
(35:47):
The minor one is I like the thunders defense a
little bit more than Minnesota's, right, The consistency of the
Thunders defense I like a little bit more. Look, they
put Caruso on Jokichen Game seven, and my goodness, did
that work like that? Like that's not something he would
think to be. That's something dialed up in a lab.
We're gonna put Caruso on you wait what oh wait,
and he fronted him, didn't let him get the basketball
(36:07):
where he was where he was used to doing. It
made him uncomfortable, Like I really like what the Thunder
defense can do. But mainly I come down to this, Mike,
I am more confident that I am going to get
a consistently great playoff series from Shay Gilders Alexander than
I am from Ann Edwards. Edwards, as great as he is,
(36:28):
still has that pension or tendency to disappear a bit,
still has that pension or tendency to not quite lead.
How the Tea Wulves want to remember was just the ten
days ago where Chris Finch was like, hey, I needed
more out of Anthony Edwards. Anthony, did you need to
play harder? No? No, I thought I played pretty well.
Oh okay, But he's still he's not quite he does.
(36:49):
He doesn't quite have that leadership that get on my back.
I don't get that every game showing up to kill
you like I get from SGA. Right, it's just a
and it's a subtle thing. But when you're talking about
the two best players in this series, that that are
two of the best young players in the game, and
SGA is gonna win the m v P this year.
Edwards will win one at some point. I'm sure these
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guys are both, you know, I'm well on the right
side of thirty. They're gonna help carry the league for
a long time. I am more confidence in the overall
consistency over the course of what could be a seven
game series in SGA than I am with Edwards. I
can't see that to a degree.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Sure, some of the passivity at times from Edwards, you know,
the wait for the game to come to you kind
of moments. I could see that for you pick the
Wolves before we started this playoff run, so I can't
back away from them now.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now I'm gonna stick with them, man stick.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
You know, I love my guys, Chet and Dort and
the whole nine yards and what they bring to the table,
and and Chet's walking double double double double. But you know,
your SGA ant thing is certainly relevant. It'll be a
curiosity of which wing defenders really come to bear. Not
(38:00):
on the defensive end, because I think we get great
effort there, but who where's your scoring coming from?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Where where are the secondary players going to make their impact?
You know, is this one where where go beart is
a bigger deal. You know that, that kind of situational basketball.
But yeah, I picked the Wolves before it. I've got
to stay with it. I'll be I'll use the cheat
code and say that it even gets to that dreaded
seventh game, but enough for the Wolves to get over.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Those I'll go thunder and six. It's it lines up
that way for the thunder side. I'm telling you it's
it's not gonna be it's not gonna be an easy series.
I'm not saying it's not gonna be a rollover so
the world. It's just great basketball. I mean real, we
are gonna see some phenomenal basketball. But overall, like there's
gonna be one or two games where the thunder are
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going to win and we're gonna say, boy, that was
a bad game from and Edwards or boy he really
need to do a little bit more in that game,
right that. I think that'll happen twice in this series.
And I don't know they we're gonna get that once
from SGA. I really don't. I really don't think that's
gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Well, let me ask the one one question that's the
obvious about it, and you know, we we have to
ask it. When SGA is involved, how much do you
get to bang on him a little bit? Because watching
the game look and it got out of sorts in
Game seven with with the Nuggets pretty fast. But like
the Alex Caruso and what he was able to do
physically with NICOLEA. Jokic, is it because he's bigger?
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You you coached soccer? How often did you have you
know your your defender could get thrown around by a
forward and doesn't get a call because you know your
defender's stout and has some size, right, And from Nicola Jokic,
it seemed like Cruso was able to do whatever he could. Uh,
and you're you're not necessarily getting the same call, whereas
(39:47):
with SGA, he's initiating all sorts of contact. All right,
He's gonna go live at the foul line. Is is
that how this plays out? Or do they let him
muddy it up a bit because if they do advantage
Minnesota in a huge way.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, I don't know that. Yeah, the money up is
a good point, But I think that the league is
a little worried about what a really big defensive series
is going to look like. But they want points on
the board. They want Sga and n Edwards to go
for forty a piece in every game. So I think
it's gonna be I would say, because the NBA knows
what they're doing when they assign referees, I would think
(40:22):
this series will be assigned a little bit looser, whereas
the Knicks and the Pacers series may be a little
bit tighter. I forget who it was.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Someone posted the for folks interested in this thing, and
it was like a Facebook page of all the officials.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
That will be working these two series.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Game one tomorrow to sixteen. You're over under Thunder a
seven and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I got Thunder and six. Mike has the Minnesota Chimberwolves
in seven. His t Wolves is deals INDs seven. Uh, yes, tomorrow,
and of course we'll pick the Knicks Pacer series. But
come on, really, do I need to pick that Knicks
and PACs said? For Nick said, but you're only saying
that because I'm picking the Knicks. It's the only reason.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I mean, Look, we've got to have our Haliburton Brunson
WWE style.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
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