January 31, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon tell you if Cam Newton choosing MVP over winning a Super Bowl is surprising or not. Jason tries to calm everybody down with their Chiefs hate. Plus, details on the Terry Rozier gambling allegations!
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
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got more NBA on the way, But and a big
sighting in the last twenty four hours of a former
sports superstar. First videos and photos of this person in
two years now. I'm like, oh my goodness, I gotta
see this, and I got into stories out of control.
So we'll have that coming up in about twenty minutes.
But as you mentioned a few minutes ago, I asked
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you a question would you rather have an NFL MVP
or a Super Bowl championship? Mike Harmon, I'll take the
super Bowl, Okay, I would take the super Bowl as well,
because you know it's the super Bowl and I can
have a ring that I could show everybody it's saying, hey,
it's a super Bowl. However, former NFL quarterback Cam Newton
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was on ESPN earlier today and was asked by Trent
by Trent Dilfer, I'm sorry. It was asked on the
show about guys like Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles, all these people,
and he was asked, would you rather have a Super
Bowl victory? Remember they lost the Super Bowl to the
to the Broncos, or your MVP? Because Newton won the
(02:04):
NFL MVP during his career, and here was Cam Newton's answer.
I ask you, Cam, if you could give back that
league MVP for a super Bowl championship, would you do it? No? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Really?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Really? Wow?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
What's more important impact or championships? If we're being honest,
the impact of you holding yourself accountable to say, everybody
has a responsibility to do.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And you could say, as an MVP.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Award winner or All American you've hailed yourself or you've
hailed jo into the bargain down, and that's what it
really comes down to it for me.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I know that's not the popular pick. I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Be popularized, but my take is I'm taking individual success
because I did my job.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the ultimate team sport, the ultimate team sport. Cam
Newton's saying, there's there's no I in team, but there's
an M and E and that's me ultimate team sport. Yeah,
I I of course I'd rather have the MVP.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
If he wanted, he would have jumped on that damn ball.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
But that's the thing, right, he asked the wrong damn
question here.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
No, I think they asked the right question because I
got the answer they wanted. Nope, not giving back the MVP.
I mean, this is I'm glad he's honest, right, I'm
always glad when people answer honestly. But boy, I was
not surprised to hear this answer from him. I'm not
because this is this is who Cam Newton was like
when he came into the league. He said, I don't
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want to be known as a quarterback. I want to
be known as an entertainer. I mean, how much was
hey was Cam Newton, you would know he was going
to be out and he was going to make the
team better, and he was going to be a team first,
was going to be a leader. No, he wasn't. Now
he was a great player, Cam Newton was a great
player again League MVP. But and when you're a quarterback,
you're supposed to be a leader. And Cam Newton say,
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oh no, no, I did my job. I didn't win
a super Bowl because none of you guys did your job.
Like I mean, this is I'm not surprised by it
at all, but wow, does he not see the forest
through the trees on this Cam Newton's legacy is he's
the guy that didn't jump on the fumble in the
Super Bowl because he made a business decision. Right, this
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is a Super Bowl, the game comes down to the
fourth quarter. That's a turnover and Newton might be able
to get to the football. Right, this is a close game. Right,
It was a close game. And the fumble, the ball
is on the ground and Newton takes a couple of
steps and stops and he could have dove on it
to try to get it, but he didn't. Right, And
he's a big dude, right, he could have dove on
and get it. Instead, the Broncos get the fumble. It's
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a big turnover. They go on to win the Super Bowl.
That's Cam Newton's legacy. Man, I get that. If it's
week twelve, week nine, Hey, business decision here, You're gonna
get criticized for it. But bigger things at stake. If
you're eleven and two or thirteen and one, Hey, better
not to get hurt. But it's the bleep in Super Bowl, man,
and you decide I'm gonna make a business decision and
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not fall on the football and not try to get
the football. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. He's a
great quarterback. And and this tells you what kind of
teammate he must have been, you know, because you know
he's not hiding stuff in the huddle about who he
is and what he what he's up for, you know,
I mean, you know, you know he's not suddening. Hey.
I'm a real big team guy and team team, team
and at the end something, Hey, I got my MVP.
I mean, I am not surprised at all in a
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in a sport that is prioritized as the best team
sport in the world. I'm choosing individual achievement over winning
the super Bowl. That is CA. That is Cam Newton on.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Which is funny because he's been asked about the fumble
how many hundreds of times in the years following, and
he's been very upfront, at least in the last and
very candid the last couple of years of how much
he regrets not going after said the bumble.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So I would think that would be in his head,
you know, as we get ready for you know, the
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
His life, his career would be looked at a lot
differently because we remember MBP awards, we certainly do, and
we count them up and but there's always the deal
with the devil of Yeah, how many of those would
you give up for a little bit more in terms
of the team's success, right, Because we remember super Bowl champions,
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we remember guys that were part of those teams. You
look at our teammate on the Fox Property's friend of
the show's been on with us a few times.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Mark Schlareth. Hey, he'll always line him up.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
He's not known for having a glorious career, but damn it,
he was a starter of three super Bowl teams. Right,
you hang your hat on the guys you went to
war with that ultimately brought down the Lombardi and brought
that home and you got the pocket well, you know,
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fist folds of confetti to say, hey, I was there,
I was on the field.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We got this done.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
For Cam Newton, It's always gonna be hey, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Go after that fumble, did you?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Because I mean, during that MVP year, a lot of
great things, but there were a lot of great players
on that squad.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, and that's what he's got to and that's what
he never understands and he doesn't understand now that football.
You could you could have picked the result, Like I know,
this is fantasy, you choosing MVP receivalle. He says, No,
you could have had a result that is so much
bigger than yourself. It's about the other fifty two guys
on the team, and the coaches and the and the
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people who work for the Panthers and the fans. It's
so much bigger. But no, I would rather not win
the Super Bowl. I'd rather have my MVP because I'm
the only I did it right. I'd nobody else block
form Apparently he did all by himself right. The ultimate
team sport. Nobody else blocked for him. Nobody said, hey,
cay Ive, just make make the yards on your own,
make the passes on your own. Believe he caught every
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pass he threw. Nobody Steve Smith didn't catch any passes.
He caught every pass he threw, like he wants to
take individual credit for an ultimate team sport and not
think it all about that how big this is outside
of himself, which is an incredibly selfish way to think.
And but to say, yes, I did this, I did
my job. Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The offensive line
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keeping you up right, Uh didn't didn't save your job.
Really really, the wide receivers making the plays they needed
to and getting yack that they didn't. They didn't do
their job. Sorry that that was all you, That was
every part was you. His argument is so flawed, and
he is so selfish and so elitist, like this is
exactly who cam Newton is, right, and this is why
he probably hadn't won a Super Bowl because this was
his attitude all the way through, right, and and just
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think about this part, right, think about the because this
is this is the other part that that he makes
it even worse. No one Usually the question of somebody is, hey,
would you give back all of your touchdowns? Like we
say to Dan Marino, would you give back every single
one of your touchdown to win the Super Bowl? Right?
And then you're asking Dan Marino, you're going to give
back your whole career to win the Super Bowl. And
(09:06):
that's more of a question, right, But that's usually how
it's asked. Would you give every goal you scored in
your career to win the Stanley Cup?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Would you give every point you scored in the NBA
to win to win the NBA title?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Would you give give back every home run you ever
hit to win a World Series? Barry Bonds? Would you
give back every home run you ever hit to win
the World Series? Like, that's a tough question, you saying, Okay,
now you're asking me for my career. You're asking Cam
Newton for It's just hey, MVP, you could have the
same exact career, same same career, man, you just don't
win the MVP. Somebody else wins it by a couple
of votes. No, I'm still taking the MVP over it. Wow,
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that is a special answer from Cam Newton man Jason.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
When we talked to Jason Cole yesterday. One of the
things you tried to extract was information related to this
year's Hall of Fame balloting. Right, he's one of the
club that will go through and debate it and says,
you know, with all the polling and everything that's gone down,
there seven people that are really gonna be at the
forefront of debates. I wonder if Steve Smith is one
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of those guys and whether a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Win might have helped him in the football pit in
this process.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Right, good run with the Panthers, obviously, but all those
years with the Panthers, he's just known as the diminutive,
angry wide receiver. Oh yeah, who was really skillful too.
But if you have that Super Bowl in your pocket, boy,
you might be walking towards.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Cooperstown a little differently, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Likewise Luke Keikley, so yeah, chaos man, chaos.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But hey, look he wore the Fedora.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Well, he's always been kind the couple of times I
had to talk to him and had an opportunity to
to wax poetic about football and you know his thoughts
on things. That's all fine and good, but he's missing
the boat on this one.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I don't know. My favorite part is the fact that
it's not they didn't ask for his whole career, just
the MVP. The fact that he's choosing what he did.
You know, hey, what I did my part? I did
my part. Oh nobody else did their part, apparently right,
but you did? You did your part. I I I
don't know. I don't know my favor, but boy, what
a teammate he must have been.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What what do you think he didn't jump on? This
is exactly why, because.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
He made a business decision. He didn't care about winning
the Super Bow. He was there, he was the I'm
in the super Bowl, I'm entertaining. I'm here win or
lose a okay, and I know you know, Look, he
caught a lot of flack, mainly after the super Bowl,
if you remember, for walking out of his postgame press conference,
which I don't care about. I don't think anybody cares about.
(11:42):
And you find out that the reason he walked out
is because he was hearing behind him other Broncos players
getting interviewed who were saying, yeah, we knew we could
do this, and we could do this, we could do this,
and he just didn't want to sit there and answer
questions about losing while other guys were ten feet from
him and he could hear all that. So I understand that.
But again it's talking after the Super Bowl. What does
it really matter? I mean not falling on When Thomas Davis.
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I think about how his arm, forearm looked like a zipper.
It looks in the Super Bowl so bad. It looked
like I could grab his forearm and throw it right
like that's laced to the football. That's what he did
to play in that game. If I was Thomas Davis,
I would say, you see this, this is what I
did so I could play and win this bleeping game.
And you can't fall in a fumble. I mean it.
What a special teammate he must have been. Man, what
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a special teammate? Exit? How about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
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the big Super Bowl storyline in a couple of seconds.
But I know I couldn't wait to click on this
after I saw this the other day, you know, clicking
through the internet getting ready for the show. You know,
look at all big stories and I see first videos,
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first pictures of Anna Cornakova in two years in a wheelchair,
and I'm like, wow, okay, I gotta see what's going
on with this, right, I'm not one for clickbait, but well,
first first public pictures of her in two years okay,
the former tennis star who would look the it girl
in sports for the early two thousands, Like she has
(15:23):
become really reclusive in the last year, which is insane
considering how popular she was. So I go and I
click and it's like in a wheelchair, Like what's wrong
with And obviously she had some kind of surgery or
something or you know, she broke her foot or something
because her foot is in a cast. Like that's like
the but like she's being wheeled at you know, and
and and look, everything looks fine. You know, she's just
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in a wheelchair because her foot is in a cast.
And I'm like, ah that, like it's like, hey, she's
in a wheelchair, like she's barely hanging on. I'm like,
I think she's okay, I think you know something with
foot surgery whatever it was okay, because you know, whether
she did have a foot like problems to you during
her career, like okay, but my first law was okay, wheelchair, Like, okay,
she I think she's okay. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I'm not a dog sure, because I know you want
a table loidal journalism kind of guy when it comes
to your national inquiry and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Stuff at the food aisle. This is not what I expect.
I think she's gonna be. I think she's gonna be
all right. I think it's gonna be a wheelchair Yeah, okay, Well, yeah,
she she had surgery or something, but.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
She had had back issues, you know, spinal issues back
in the day, and.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And the reclusive thing. Well, she's kept her.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Private life as private as anybody could be. Remember I
had her peak. It was absurd, Like I remember going
to an event up at Stanford, you know, with with
the Williams sisters as part of it, and everybody that
that was at their peak at that point. And then
it was like when I went to Jets camp when
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Tebow showed up, people everywhere trying to get to that stadium.
Fun watch, fun match, Doubles said, was great, all of
that stuff. But yeah, the peak of her popularity was
just a whole level of absurdity, far predating what the
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internet sensations, Twitter verse and everything would be now, I mean,
can you imagine, well William's sisters and her at that
at that stage.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Now, she she was ahead of her time in what
she would be if if she came around now. Okay,
like so Anna Cornicy, I gota explain to Millendam who
aunta cornicvi is? Uh so around the turn of the
central they know when Anna Cornerkova got incredibly popular as
a tennis player. Uh, every day was new pictures of
Anna doing this, or Anna doing this, or Anna was here,
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Anna in Miami Beach? And I remember was she dating
Sergei feder Off? Was she dating Pavel Burray? Like? Who
is she dating? And she had commercials and everything else,
And the big question was always all, she's gotta win.
She can't winch she gotta win tournament. If we're gonna
continue to talk about her like this, she's got to
win a tournament. She got it, win a tournament. And
that kind of was the default thing where hey, uh yeah,
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we'll like you and you can be popular, but you
gotta win something, right. This is the early aughts where
she had to win something, right. Danica Patrick had to
win something to uh you know, because of all the
inevitable backlash of here's an incredibly attractive, great women women
athlete who we're going to try to put move the
goalposts on her and say, Okay, well you got to
do this. If we're going to continue to talk about
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you do this or do this, or do this, and
eventually her, when she stopped playing tennis for popularity just
waned and she just disappeared. Whereas if she came around now,
I mean, she would be one of the biggest influencers
in the world. Like she would she would have millions
upon millions of followers on Instagram, she would have millions
of followers on Twitter. They would look to her to
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tip elections, you know, I mean probably in Russia. They
would look for her to tip elections in different countries
and what she doing, and she her popularity would know
no bounds because you look at you look at influencers
now who continue to just post content, right, people that
are just influencers now that are just famous because hey,
they hit it big for whatever reason, and they continue
to post content, they continue to do things. All she'd
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have to do is continue to post content and and
and have opinions on things and make appearances and it
didn't matter if she want or not. It would be
oh could she went, Oh, man, look at that. She
couldn't win. Oh it's too bad. How could she win here?
Oh she can't win there. It's too bad. And the
sports keeps her in the spotlight. Playing the four Grand
Slams a year keeps her in the spotlight. Like her
career now, if she like, let's just say, she would
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have a ten or fifteen year run of an incredible
amount of fame and an incredible amount of money, an
incredible amount of influence. Like that's where it was. Whereas
for when she came around the early two thousands, it
was really only a few a handful of years, and
then for whatever reason, she walked away. She couldn't play anymore.
She was injured a lot. But now she'd have a
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fifteen to twenty year run. And I don't look. You
still see things from influencers who are in their forties
and fifties, and still they have their popular But her
run that she would have from her twenties into her
mid thirties, it would be, I mean, her popularity there
was something. It would be even even it would be
ten times what it is now.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, I mean, she showed up at a bunch of events
obviously comes up the same time as the Williams sisters
and Martita Hangis who she played doubles with, so they
had their big run together, and she's just chosen to
not be part part of the public outcry for content
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after a run with The Biggest Loser because when Gillian
Michael's really hit her point where people decided they were
done with her on that show, she got.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A quick run.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
But otherwise she just let Enrique Iglesias be her hero
and that was it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Ah could be a hero baby, Yeah, let me be
your hero. Come on, tell me you've never done that.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Sure, I've never done that at karaoke where you just
looked at somebody just randomly gun.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Just to see the laugh. You're gonna get into the
spit take. I can now now I'm gonna try to
do it now. But I've never done that before.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Yeah, No, it's very power. Is that your Is that
your go to move?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's a good move. It'sact me.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
It's not a go to, but it's gone to Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, Like because I want to see, like if that
would work like it, you know, in a in a
in purple shorts and a j Cutler shersey, Like if
that would work, you know on somebody.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Well, now I'm leaner and meaner too, so I mean
super sweltery kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hey, you know he looks really good in that. Wow,
that Jake Cutler, that Jake Cutler jersey just hangs off.
It's just now, that's right.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
What's funny is I did wear the Cutler jersey yesterday,
Cause you'll laugh. My brother, my brothers, we have this
running thread of you know, things that you see wandering
around Chicago, like they try to include me in the
fun that they're having. And they were wandering back from lunch,
my older brother, and he took a picture of a
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guy who was standing outside trying to get a hold
of his buddies while wearing a trubisky jersey.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
So I said, it's funny because yesterday was Cutler suresy day.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What's the burnt cigarette cigarette hole count?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Now, Mike, you can actually buy the T shirts with
them pre burned in like that. You can sell them
like that with the cigarette. No, it's a very rare variation.
It's like a trading card. He it's cigarette holes. Hey,
that's not like you're gonna put it in the wash
and it's going to you know, come apart. No, No,
these are cigarette holes. Are designed to stay exact cigarette holes.
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That's what they are. You got to even the smear
on them right there. No, it's all good now.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Once uponunt a time I did have the suerseys and
random gifts that I would get like that, the jerseys
that would disappear. My ex wife had a pretty good
system of he doesn't need that one.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, he's not gonna remember if this is gone. He
has No, he's not gonna.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You know what, I'll tell him that the girls took
it and used it for a class day and.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Then it never found its way home. Oh yeah, I
don't know where that. Oh hey, look, where do you
want to go for dinner tonight? Oh yeah, let's go. Yeah, see,
I got you forget about what sandwich. I remember one
time going into a store in New York and it
was like a collectible store because we were on vacation, like, oh,
there's a big collectible store here, and it was one
of those. It was back in the early two thousands
(23:37):
when I think it was Reebok. I want to say,
had made like the heavy long sleeve T shirts that work.
There were kind of like sweatshirt material, but they had
the raised numbers and names and numbers on both sides
of players. And I was like, okay, wow, this is
really cool. And there was a jets one, there was
a there was a Curtis mark Course, Curtis Martin, there
(23:58):
was a Curtis Martin jets one. And I'm like, oh,
I gotta get this. And I pull it off the
rack and there's huge holes in the middle of the
of the thing, like down where the belly button is,
like there's like four, like three holes that they're not
even near each other. And then and they're off and
I go, oh, well, I gotta say this guy's got
to take money. I still want it, but guy's gotta
take money off. It was like, you know, it was
like fifty dollars if it was. So I go to
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the guy. I go, hey, how much is this? He goes, oh,
what's on the price? I go, well, it says, you know,
forty nine ninety five, but it's got, you know, all
these holes, and I don't know how it looked like
you know, somebody's slice. He goes, oh, no, no, it's
made like that. And I go, it's made like that.
I go, there's no holes anywhere else everything, there's no hole.
I've seen these before. Don't tell me this is made
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like that. Don't no, no, it's made with those holes.
He goes, ah, fine, I'll take like, I'll take like,
I'll take twenty bucks off. Well, how's that is? That?
Is that good enough for you? I go, I also
don't have to buy it, and he goes, no, no, no,
I'll take twenty juste, I'll take twenty off. I'll take
twenty off. So I'm like, all right, So I bought
it for thirty and I had it, and you know,
I was able to wear it with the holes. I'm like, ah,
you know, I didn't care, but I'm like, you had
to tried to tell oh, no, no, Kate, Kate comes
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with those on it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I know, when when something comes distressed with rips in it,
that's not this is three holes in the middle of
the in the middle of the belly button, bart right
that that comes like that? Come on?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Man, Well, you know, for about a decade, I've been
trying to find someone maybe who's done a cast of
his hands, like holding a football, because then I'd be
able to buy you that and you'd be able to
forever hold Curtis Martin's hand.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh sure, that'd be great. I'm walking down. It looks
like what's he doing. He's holding Curtis Martin's end. That's
what he's doing. Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
We should have stolen the jaunty hat off his head
that day while we were at it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
But you got to hold his hand. Exit out about
a fresca exit swollen dub Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the tirech dot Com studios. All right, so uh
to this super Bowl story, and I can make everybody
who was upset about the Chiefs getting the calls happy?
Right everybody? Well, okay, I can at least take the
temperature down for you on.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It not possible.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Patrick Mahomes talked today, you know, his press conference today
about and was asked about why the Chiefs had such
a big year. What are you gonna remember about this?
And he said, Hey, this team's been special because it's
been everybody and it seems like someone makes a big
play at the biggest moment to go out there win
a football game. Offense, defense, special teams. We make big
(26:19):
plays in big moments. That's what's special for him. And
of course when he said this earlier today, everybody's on
social media and the refs well in the refs too.
What about the refs? What about the rest? What about
the rest giving you first downs? What about Josh Allen
and just Josh Allen jiffs where it looks like he's
got the first down and you know, look, this is
the part about this and it's it's really gotten to
(26:40):
a new level because it's one team, because it's the Chiefs.
And I think we realize that, oh, now they've turned
into the evil Empire and instead of being the team
we rooted for and mahomes having a great images, we
can't wait to see them lose. Right, they become the
evil Empire? But what's going on with this? Because I
can't tell you it doesn't exist. I can't tell you that.
I'm so prized that every call that could go one
(27:02):
way or the other goes the Chiefs way. I can't
say I'm surprised that the official on the chief sideline
overruled the official from the from the Bill's sideline, where
Josh Allen had the first down every day. The Josh
Allen play looks worse and worse, and he got the
first down. They didn't give it to him. But what
this falls under is this is something that nobody really
complained about. For Jordan, for other players, it's the Chiefs
(27:25):
are getting superstar calls. Because that's what happens. The best
teams get superstar calls, the best players get superstar calls.
The best pitchers in Major League Baseball get superstar calls
balls and strikes, the best hitters in Major League Baseball
get superstar calls on balls and strikes. Right, this is
how it's gone in sports forever. But now all of
(27:46):
a sudden, like it's a new thing that, yeah, the
Chiefs get calls. Why because superstars get calls. They get
superstar calls, and going into two series in games, teams
kind of know, well, we know we're not gonna get
any help from the officials. We got to do our best, now,
is it there? No, But this is something that's been
around for a long time. Never really upsets anybody in
the NBA Finals are in the World Series. But here
(28:07):
now the Super Bowl, everybody the Chiefs are Chiefs, the Chiefs,
and Chiefs are Chiefs. Yeah, it's superstar calls. So when
you understand that's what it is, and it's something that's
been around for a long time. Look, Brady and the Patriots,
how many superstar calls did they get over the course
of their run? They got so many superstar calls? Right,
you can't I can't even count how many they got.
Austin Safaria Jenkins didn't complete the catch, He didn't complete
the catch. He be a good one. Jets killed Carl
(28:31):
uh So, Yeah, when when when you understand it from
that perspective, it becomes more palatable and you maybe you don't,
maybe you hate it a little bit less, but you
understand and you understand it a little bit more that
this is why the Chiefs get these calls. Mahomes is
going to get these calls over anybody else in the NFL,
of course he is.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah, superstar calls are always going to be a thing.
The other is, you know the prism from which you're
you're looking at it right here, here's your lens. Uh
You're maybe hate watching the Chiefs, right, you're an AFC
fan and you're tired of them. You're a Bills fan.
You just don't want just like the Michael Jordan Lebron
James thing. You're a brady person that doesn't want to
(29:13):
see what he just established upended so quickly. Mahomes and
whatever about the Chiefs is unpalatable. You didn't like the
Hallmark movie from the holiday Holidays.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Holiday Holiday, Holiday Holiday.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I wanted to make it a Halloween movie in my
head right there too. That's okay, yeah, which is good,
But you know the holiday movie didn't didn't satisfy and
quench your thirst for lovely holiday fair. I don't know
whatever it is. Maybe you're you're watching it differently as
opposed to all right, now, let's watch it from the
lens of every call that the Bills could have gotten
(29:51):
or should have gotten and didn't, or call against them
that should have been made that they got away with.
Oh that's holding. Yeah, well they didn't call it. That's
not helping the.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Chiefs, is it?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Right?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Because I think in the Bills game there were a
couple of calls we're like, wow, that really should have
been called on the edge of the guy holding and
grabbing and clutching. It's like, but it wasn't. Hey play on, uh,
And then we just say, well, you know, they can't
call holding on everything. It's like, well, I don't know,
if you'd called it the other way, it would have
been a big deal. No, you know, So it's it's
(30:27):
that kind of thing that comes through recency biases always
are there of you know, what are we expecting? And
certainly when you add a spotlight to it, Yeah, every
play gets magnified to that level. And as we talked
about the other night, just the the idea that they're
not running away and hiding from teams, right, the Chiefs
(30:49):
aren't blowing anybody out.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So if there is a call or.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Two that gets you know, the extra look see by
the by the referees, whether it's the quick review to
upheld thing, to uphold things which which did happen, by
the way, right, the the first call most most specifically,
and and you and I have focused a lot on
the the Josh Allen should have been first down call, uh,
(31:16):
that you know is the one that's kind of getting
thrown out to the side in a lot of this
in favor of the catch down in the red zone,
which again down distance other decisions being made in that
process that that don't get examined, right, So there's like, oh,
it's just a terrible call. Well, let's let's examine it.
(31:38):
Let's let's get you know, be a little more rational, uh,
and give it a more nuanced approach. But I know
it's sports talk video now with the YouTube and and
X and Instagram and everything we're doing in promoting the
show and the network as well as the audio, you
know you need hot take.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Nonsense.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Nuance doesn't sell as well. So I have to call
you an idiot at every turn. Smith, I mean, that's
just the way it has to be. And the officials
have to be awful and the worst things that we've
ever seen and a blight on humanity.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So you know, that's where we're at.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And for folks that are are Chief's apologists, they're not
going to recognize when there might be a little bit
of a favorable call that goes their way, because well no,
I mean that's not how it goes.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
They call them.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
As they see them, just like Rick Flair said, they
always did for him.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Exit. How about a Fresca exit, swollen dome Jason Smith,
Mike Carmon. When you understand the Chiefs gets superstar calls,
it's a lot easy.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
They were getting them before they were superstars.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
They're part of the origin story. We go to our
own superstars. She's been getting superstar calls for the last
ten years. It's Monty Belangnos and she's got what's trending.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah, that's right, and I'm gonna keep getting them if
you all keep it up. If I'm the Chiefs, That's
what I'm saying to Yeah, where you keep getting these calls.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Get over it, Get over you don't like it. We
don't care exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I feel like I'm in the small group of people
who I'm not a Chiefs fan, but they don't bother me.
I don't I'm not bothered by them. And I'm all
about dynasties in any sport. They make the sport, they
make it fun. I used to hate watch the Lakers
for years and years, and when they started sucking, it
wasn't fun. So it's like, I'm all about dynasties.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
So ever, leave it in the margins, manzie, right, leave
it to the officials.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You're gonna get screwed.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Yeah, leave the way it works.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
It's the way it works. But like you guys are saying,
why are you surprised, there's nothing surprising to the situation.
Nothing surprising between the Rockets and the Grizzlies having.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
A tight game.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Houston is on top right now, one oh four to
one oh one, with about eight minutes to go in
the game. The Trailblazers have taken the lead and kept
it from the Magic. They're on top seventy four to
fifty nine halfway through the third quarter. The Wizards have
lost sixteen in a row. After losing to the Lakers
one thirty four to ninety six. The Hawks had beat
the Cavaliers twice this season, not today. Cleveland won it
(34:03):
one thirty seven to one point fifteen, and Anthony Edwards
put on a show in Utah thirty six points, six rebounds,
eleven assists as the Timberwolves topped the Jazz one thirty
eight to one thirteen. On his podcast A Story that
you can read online, Dwayne Wade on his podcast today,
revealed that he had surgery on his kidney in twenty
twenty three. Doctors removed a tumor that was later deemed
(34:27):
to be cancerous. He said he was having stomach issues,
felt very weak, and then obviously he's glad he went
with the surgery at the time, but This was revealed.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
On his podcast today.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
In men's college Hoops at halftime, Ucla is beating Number
sixteen Oregon forty to twenty six. Nebraska snapped their six
game losing streak. They held on to beat number eighteen
Illinois eighty to seventy four in overtime, and number nineteen
Memphis defeated Tulane sixty eight to fifty six. Was the
final score on that one. In the NHL, the Red
(34:58):
Wings and the Oilers are still tied at to a
piece in overtime, and the Capitals lost to the Senators
five to four in overtime earlier today, but Alex Ovechkin
did score, so he is now nineteen goals away from
surpassing Wayne Gretzky with thirty one games left.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
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That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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NBA really hopes is going to go away and go
away fast. Uh. Look, we've talked a lot about gambling probes.
(36:39):
Look the Epey Masuhara situation with Sho Hey O Tani.
We played the audio last week of epay impersonating show.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Hey, well, did you see the update today? That's no
evidence that he had a gambling addiction. Yeah before he
met show. Hey yeah, oh boy, So it's all show
he's fault. He turned him into a gambling. That's that's
what it is. And shall yeah, access to a lot
of money turned it into a gambling.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
It's okay if you pretend to be me. I just
have to have plausible deniability, right, But federal investigators are
looking into Terry Rogier and his play in a very
specific twenty twenty three game. Back when he was playing
for the Hornets. There was a game in twenty twenty
three in which he had a pretty good first quarter,
(37:27):
played the first nine minutes, five points, four rebounds, couple
of assists, not a bad opening quarter. But then he
got hurt and he missed the rest of the game,
and not only that, he missed the last nine games
of the rest of the season. Now, when this happened,
there were posts that was online from back then that
were really upset. They were so upset with sports books.
(37:47):
When it found out that Rogier wasn't going to return
to the game after the first quarter, a lot of
people were saying something shady was going on regarding the
prop bets involving his stats for that night. The NBA
said they looked into it, didn't find anything. But now
whether there's new evidence or not, they're federal investigators looking
at Terry Rozier's play in a twenty twenty three game.
(38:07):
Right now, he plays for the Heat, He's got a
couple more years left on a big contract. Where here's
been a guy that look earlier on his career with
the Celtics and he was a really great up and
coming player. We thought he would be one of the
lynchpins of that of a Celtics team was gonna win
multiple championships. Now, this is why this is such a
big deal for the NBA, And of course they don't
want it to be true because they don't want to
keep hearing about instances of gambling and people fixing games. Right,
(38:32):
But this is the part that we're just gonna have
to deal with because now that prop bets and individual
bets on players have become so popular, like this has
now open the door to personal point shaving. Where before
it was, hey, we want to bet against a team tonight,
and if one player has a bad enough game, that
(38:53):
might be enough to throw the game. Now you can't
play that bad because then it would be obvious. But
it was tough like we had at times that it's
happened where players have tried to throw games in different sports.
There have been you know, big scandals about it points
shaving and not but that was okay. If one guy
has a bad game doesn't guarantee that you're gonna lose.
But over an individual's prop bets and stuff going on, absolutely,
(39:15):
because that is one thing the player can handle. Right,
If my prop bets are are an x amount of
points and and and assists, I'm just gonna make sure
I miss my shots, right, I'm just gonna make sure
that that Maya said, you know, I have a couple
of turnovers, the assists aren't there. Like that's an easy
thing for a player to control. It's much easier than
try to control, you know, something over an entire game.
(39:35):
So I Mike, I don't know, man, I think even
though this is this is a one story now with
Terry Rozier, I don't know that the fixing stuff is
ever gonna go away just because it's gonna be that easy.
As long as prop bets and individual prop bets are
a thing to be able to do something.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Like this, I was gonna have the whispers obviously had
the porter situation right that that really, uh was the
a black guy for for the sport? You go back
to the stuff that still gets swirled about of all right,
what else should have spawned out of this? What else
should we know? And every once in a while to
give something on his podcast like how come you haven't said.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That in twenty years?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
So like there's there's questions, but yeah, prop bets. Look,
they've always existed, but now you're at a level and
a marketplace when you add the different apparatus apparatus apparatuses, right, yeah, uh,
Because we've been arguing about pluralization, so I'm all self
conscious about it. But the just the idea that you've
(40:33):
got all these different apps whereby you can go uh
and do just very rudimentary linking of players with one
or two stat categories and and bam you're in UH
and and everybody gets to watch them on TV. That's
the other part, right, everybody's got equal access instantaneous alerts
to your phone, et cetera. So when suddenly the you're
(40:56):
getting ping, ping, pings, like all right, everything's good, and
then it stops.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Well, let's investigate why didn't stop hanging me?
Speaker 5 (41:03):
That guy was headed for the over, I was gonna
turn to Chinjingjing really fast.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I didn't get it. Why I haven't gotten that update.
Give me that update.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
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(00:57):
got more NBA on the way, But and a big
sighting in the last twenty four hours of a former
sports superstar. First videos and photos of this person in
two years now. I'm like, oh my goodness, I gotta
see this, and I got into stories out of control.
So we'll have that coming up in about twenty minutes.
But as you mentioned a few minutes ago, I asked
(01:19):
you a question would you rather have an NFL MVP
or a Super Bowl championship? Mike Harmon, I'll take the
super Bowl, Okay, I would take the super Bowl as well,
because you know it's the super Bowl and I can
have a ring that I could show everybody it's saying, hey,
it's a super Bowl. However, former NFL quarterback Cam Newton
(01:43):
was on ESPN earlier today and was asked by Trent
by Trent Dilfer, I'm sorry. It was asked on the
show about guys like Trent Dilfer, Nick Foles, all these people,
and he was asked, would you rather have a Super
Bowl victory? Remember they lost the Super Bowl to the
to the Broncos, or your MVP? Because Newton won the
(02:04):
NFL MVP during his career, and here was Cam Newton's answer.
I ask you, Cam, if you could give back that
league MVP for a super Bowl championship, would you do it? No? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Really?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Really? Wow?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
What's more important impact or championships? If we're being honest,
the impact of you holding yourself accountable to say, everybody
has a responsibility to do.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And you could say, as an MVP.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Award winner or All American you've hailed yourself or you've
hailed jo into the bargain down, and that's what it
really comes down to it for me.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I know that's not the popular pick. I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Be popularized, but my take is I'm taking individual success
because I did my job.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the ultimate team sport, the ultimate team sport. Cam
Newton's saying, there's there's no I in team, but there's
an M and E and that's me ultimate team sport. Yeah,
I I of course I'd rather have the MVP.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
If he wanted, he would have jumped on that damn ball.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
But that's the thing, right, he asked the wrong damn
question here.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
No, I think they asked the right question because I
got the answer they wanted. Nope, not giving back the MVP.
I mean, this is I'm glad he's honest, right, I'm
always glad when people answer honestly. But boy, I was
not surprised to hear this answer from him. I'm not
because this is this is who Cam Newton was like
when he came into the league. He said, I don't
(03:39):
want to be known as a quarterback. I want to
be known as an entertainer. I mean, how much was
hey was Cam Newton, you would know he was going
to be out and he was going to make the
team better, and he was going to be a team first,
was going to be a leader. No, he wasn't. Now
he was a great player, Cam Newton was a great
player again League MVP. But and when you're a quarterback,
you're supposed to be a leader. And Cam Newton say,
(04:01):
oh no, no, I did my job. I didn't win
a super Bowl because none of you guys did your job.
Like I mean, this is I'm not surprised by it
at all, but wow, does he not see the forest
through the trees on this Cam Newton's legacy is he's
the guy that didn't jump on the fumble in the
Super Bowl because he made a business decision. Right, this
(04:22):
is a Super Bowl, the game comes down to the
fourth quarter. That's a turnover and Newton might be able
to get to the football. Right, this is a close game. Right,
It was a close game. And the fumble, the ball
is on the ground and Newton takes a couple of
steps and stops and he could have dove on it
to try to get it, but he didn't. Right, And
he's a big dude, right, he could have dove on
and get it. Instead, the Broncos get the fumble. It's
(04:44):
a big turnover. They go on to win the Super Bowl.
That's Cam Newton's legacy. Man, I get that. If it's
week twelve, week nine, Hey, business decision here, You're gonna
get criticized for it. But bigger things at stake. If
you're eleven and two or thirteen and one, Hey, better
not to get hurt. But it's the bleep in Super Bowl, man,
and you decide I'm gonna make a business decision and
(05:05):
not fall on the football and not try to get
the football. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. He's a
great quarterback. And and this tells you what kind of
teammate he must have been, you know, because you know
he's not hiding stuff in the huddle about who he
is and what he what he's up for, you know,
I mean, you know, you know he's not suddening. Hey.
I'm a real big team guy and team team, team
and at the end something, Hey, I got my MVP.
I mean, I am not surprised at all in a
(05:27):
in a sport that is prioritized as the best team
sport in the world. I'm choosing individual achievement over winning
the super Bowl. That is CA. That is Cam Newton on.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Which is funny because he's been asked about the fumble
how many hundreds of times in the years following, and
he's been very upfront, at least in the last and
very candid the last couple of years of how much
he regrets not going after said the bumble.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
So I would think that would be in his head,
you know, as we get ready for you know, the
super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
His life, his career would be looked at a lot
differently because we remember MBP awards, we certainly do, and
we count them up and but there's always the deal
with the devil of Yeah, how many of those would
you give up for a little bit more in terms
of the team's success, right, Because we remember super Bowl champions,
(06:28):
we remember guys that were part of those teams. You
look at our teammate on the Fox Property's friend of
the show's been on with us a few times.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Mark Schlareth. Hey, he'll always line him up.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
He's not known for having a glorious career, but damn it,
he was a starter of three super Bowl teams. Right,
you hang your hat on the guys you went to
war with that ultimately brought down the Lombardi and brought
that home and you got the pocket well, you know,
(07:03):
fist folds of confetti to say, hey, I was there,
I was on the field.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We got this done.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
For Cam Newton, It's always gonna be hey, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Go after that fumble, did you?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Because I mean, during that MVP year, a lot of
great things, but there were a lot of great players
on that squad.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, and that's what he's got to and that's what
he never understands and he doesn't understand now that football.
You could you could have picked the result, Like I know,
this is fantasy, you choosing MVP receivalle. He says, No,
you could have had a result that is so much
bigger than yourself. It's about the other fifty two guys
on the team, and the coaches and the and the
(07:40):
people who work for the Panthers and the fans. It's
so much bigger. But no, I would rather not win
the Super Bowl. I'd rather have my MVP because I'm
the only I did it right. I'd nobody else block
form Apparently he did all by himself right. The ultimate
team sport. Nobody else blocked for him. Nobody said, hey,
cay Ive, just make make the yards on your own,
make the passes on your own. Believe he caught every
(08:01):
pass he threw. Nobody Steve Smith didn't catch any passes.
He caught every pass he threw, like he wants to
take individual credit for an ultimate team sport and not
think it all about that how big this is outside
of himself, which is an incredibly selfish way to think.
And but to say, yes, I did this, I did
my job. Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The offensive line
(08:23):
keeping you up right, Uh didn't didn't save your job.
Really really, the wide receivers making the plays they needed
to and getting yack that they didn't. They didn't do
their job. Sorry that that was all you, That was
every part was you. His argument is so flawed, and
he is so selfish and so elitist, like this is
exactly who cam Newton is, right, and this is why
he probably hadn't won a Super Bowl because this was
his attitude all the way through, right, and and just
(08:46):
think about this part, right, think about the because this
is this is the other part that that he makes
it even worse. No one Usually the question of somebody is, hey,
would you give back all of your touchdowns? Like we
say to Dan Marino, would you give back every single
one of your touchdown to win the Super Bowl? Right?
And then you're asking Dan Marino, you're going to give
back your whole career to win the Super Bowl. And
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that's more of a question, right, But that's usually how
it's asked. Would you give every goal you scored in
your career to win the Stanley Cup?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Would you give every point you scored in the NBA
to win to win the NBA title?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Would you give give back every home run you ever
hit to win a World Series? Barry Bonds? Would you
give back every home run you ever hit to win
the World Series? Like, that's a tough question, you saying, Okay,
now you're asking me for my career. You're asking Cam
Newton for It's just hey, MVP, you could have the
same exact career, same same career, man, you just don't
win the MVP. Somebody else wins it by a couple
of votes. No, I'm still taking the MVP over it. Wow,
(09:41):
that is a special answer from Cam Newton man Jason.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
When we talked to Jason Cole yesterday. One of the
things you tried to extract was information related to this
year's Hall of Fame balloting. Right, he's one of the
club that will go through and debate it and says,
you know, with all the polling and everything that's gone down,
there seven people that are really gonna be at the
forefront of debates. I wonder if Steve Smith is one
(10:06):
of those guys and whether a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Win might have helped him in the football pit in
this process.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Right, good run with the Panthers, obviously, but all those
years with the Panthers, he's just known as the diminutive,
angry wide receiver. Oh yeah, who was really skillful too.
But if you have that Super Bowl in your pocket, boy,
you might be walking towards.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Cooperstown a little differently, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Likewise Luke Keikley, so yeah, chaos man, chaos.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
But hey, look he wore the Fedora.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Well, he's always been kind the couple of times I
had to talk to him and had an opportunity to
to wax poetic about football and you know his thoughts
on things. That's all fine and good, but he's missing
the boat on this one.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I don't know. My favorite part is the fact that
it's not they didn't ask for his whole career, just
the MVP. The fact that he's choosing what he did.
You know, hey, what I did my part? I did
my part. Oh nobody else did their part, apparently right,
but you did? You did your part. I I I
don't know. I don't know my favor, but boy, what
a teammate he must have been.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
What what do you think he didn't jump on? This
is exactly why, because.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
He made a business decision. He didn't care about winning
the Super Bow. He was there, he was the I'm
in the super Bowl, I'm entertaining. I'm here win or
lose a okay, and I know you know, Look, he
caught a lot of flack, mainly after the super Bowl,
if you remember, for walking out of his postgame press conference,
which I don't care about. I don't think anybody cares about.
(11:42):
And you find out that the reason he walked out
is because he was hearing behind him other Broncos players
getting interviewed who were saying, yeah, we knew we could
do this, and we could do this, we could do this,
and he just didn't want to sit there and answer
questions about losing while other guys were ten feet from
him and he could hear all that. So I understand that.
But again it's talking after the Super Bowl. What does
it really matter? I mean not falling on When Thomas Davis.
(12:04):
I think about how his arm, forearm looked like a zipper.
It looks in the Super Bowl so bad. It looked
like I could grab his forearm and throw it right
like that's laced to the football. That's what he did
to play in that game. If I was Thomas Davis,
I would say, you see this, this is what I
did so I could play and win this bleeping game.
And you can't fall in a fumble. I mean it.
What a special teammate he must have been. Man, what
(12:26):
a special teammate? Exit? How about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
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the big Super Bowl storyline in a couple of seconds.
But I know I couldn't wait to click on this
after I saw this the other day, you know, clicking
through the internet getting ready for the show. You know,
look at all big stories and I see first videos,
(15:03):
first pictures of Anna Cornakova in two years in a wheelchair,
and I'm like, wow, okay, I gotta see what's going
on with this, right, I'm not one for clickbait, but well,
first first public pictures of her in two years okay,
the former tennis star who would look the it girl
in sports for the early two thousands, Like she has
(15:23):
become really reclusive in the last year, which is insane
considering how popular she was. So I go and I
click and it's like in a wheelchair, Like what's wrong
with And obviously she had some kind of surgery or
something or you know, she broke her foot or something
because her foot is in a cast. Like that's like
the but like she's being wheeled at you know, and
and and look, everything looks fine. You know, she's just
(15:45):
in a wheelchair because her foot is in a cast.
And I'm like, ah that, like it's like, hey, she's
in a wheelchair, like she's barely hanging on. I'm like,
I think she's okay, I think you know something with
foot surgery whatever it was okay, because you know, whether
she did have a foot like problems to you during
her career, like okay, but my first law was okay, wheelchair, Like, okay,
she I think she's okay. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I'm not a dog sure, because I know you want
a table loidal journalism kind of guy when it comes
to your national inquiry and.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Stuff at the food aisle. This is not what I expect.
I think she's gonna be. I think she's gonna be
all right. I think it's gonna be a wheelchair Yeah, okay, Well, yeah,
she she had surgery or something, but.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
She had had back issues, you know, spinal issues back
in the day, and.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
And the reclusive thing. Well, she's kept her.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Private life as private as anybody could be. Remember I
had her peak. It was absurd, Like I remember going
to an event up at Stanford, you know, with with
the Williams sisters as part of it, and everybody that
that was at their peak at that point. And then
it was like when I went to Jets camp when
(16:55):
Tebow showed up, people everywhere trying to get to that stadium.
Fun watch, fun match, Doubles said, was great, all of
that stuff. But yeah, the peak of her popularity was
just a whole level of absurdity, far predating what the
(17:15):
internet sensations, Twitter verse and everything would be now, I mean,
can you imagine, well William's sisters and her at that
at that stage.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Now, she she was ahead of her time in what
she would be if if she came around now. Okay,
like so Anna Cornicy, I gota explain to Millendam who
aunta cornicvi is? Uh so around the turn of the
central they know when Anna Cornerkova got incredibly popular as
a tennis player. Uh, every day was new pictures of
Anna doing this, or Anna doing this, or Anna was here,
(17:47):
Anna in Miami Beach? And I remember was she dating
Sergei feder Off? Was she dating Pavel Burray? Like? Who
is she dating? And she had commercials and everything else,
And the big question was always all, she's gotta win.
She can't winch she gotta win tournament. If we're gonna
continue to talk about her like this, she's got to
win a tournament. She got it, win a tournament. And
that kind of was the default thing where hey, uh yeah,
(18:09):
we'll like you and you can be popular, but you
gotta win something, right. This is the early aughts where
she had to win something, right. Danica Patrick had to
win something to uh you know, because of all the
inevitable backlash of here's an incredibly attractive, great women women
athlete who we're going to try to put move the
goalposts on her and say, Okay, well you got to
do this. If we're going to continue to talk about
(18:30):
you do this or do this, or do this, and
eventually her, when she stopped playing tennis for popularity just
waned and she just disappeared. Whereas if she came around now,
I mean, she would be one of the biggest influencers
in the world. Like she would she would have millions
upon millions of followers on Instagram, she would have millions
of followers on Twitter. They would look to her to
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tip elections, you know, I mean probably in Russia. They
would look for her to tip elections in different countries
and what she doing, and she her popularity would know
no bounds because you look at you look at influencers
now who continue to just post content, right, people that
are just influencers now that are just famous because hey,
they hit it big for whatever reason, and they continue
to post content, they continue to do things. All she'd
(19:14):
have to do is continue to post content and and
and have opinions on things and make appearances and it
didn't matter if she want or not. It would be
oh could she went, Oh, man, look at that. She
couldn't win. Oh it's too bad. How could she win here?
Oh she can't win there. It's too bad. And the
sports keeps her in the spotlight. Playing the four Grand
Slams a year keeps her in the spotlight. Like her
career now, if she like, let's just say, she would
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have a ten or fifteen year run of an incredible
amount of fame and an incredible amount of money, an
incredible amount of influence. Like that's where it was. Whereas
for when she came around the early two thousands, it
was really only a few a handful of years, and
then for whatever reason, she walked away. She couldn't play anymore.
She was injured a lot. But now she'd have a
(19:57):
fifteen to twenty year run. And I don't look. You
still see things from influencers who are in their forties
and fifties, and still they have their popular But her
run that she would have from her twenties into her
mid thirties, it would be, I mean, her popularity there
was something. It would be even even it would be
ten times what it is now.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, I mean, she showed up at a bunch of events
obviously comes up the same time as the Williams sisters
and Martita Hangis who she played doubles with, so they
had their big run together, and she's just chosen to
not be part part of the public outcry for content
(20:37):
after a run with The Biggest Loser because when Gillian
Michael's really hit her point where people decided they were
done with her on that show, she got.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
A quick run.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
But otherwise she just let Enrique Iglesias be her hero
and that was it.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Ah could be a hero baby, Yeah, let me be
your hero. Come on, tell me you've never done that.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Sure, I've never done that at karaoke where you just
looked at somebody just randomly gun.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Just to see the laugh. You're gonna get into the
spit take. I can now now I'm gonna try to
do it now. But I've never done that before.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Yeah, No, it's very power. Is that your Is that
your go to move?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's a good move. It'sact me.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
It's not a go to, but it's gone to Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, Like because I want to see, like if that
would work like it, you know, in a in a
in purple shorts and a j Cutler shersey, Like if
that would work, you know on somebody.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Well, now I'm leaner and meaner too, so I mean
super sweltery kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hey, you know he looks really good in that. Wow,
that Jake Cutler, that Jake Cutler jersey just hangs off.
It's just now, that's right.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
What's funny is I did wear the Cutler jersey yesterday,
Cause you'll laugh. My brother, my brothers, we have this
running thread of you know, things that you see wandering
around Chicago, like they try to include me in the
fun that they're having. And they were wandering back from lunch,
my older brother, and he took a picture of a
(22:09):
guy who was standing outside trying to get a hold
of his buddies while wearing a trubisky jersey.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
So I said, it's funny because yesterday was Cutler suresy day.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
What's the burnt cigarette cigarette hole count?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Now, Mike, you can actually buy the T shirts with
them pre burned in like that. You can sell them
like that with the cigarette. No, it's a very rare variation.
It's like a trading card. He it's cigarette holes. Hey,
that's not like you're gonna put it in the wash
and it's going to you know, come apart. No, No,
these are cigarette holes. Are designed to stay exact cigarette holes.
(22:49):
That's what they are. You got to even the smear
on them right there. No, it's all good now.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Once uponunt a time I did have the suerseys and
random gifts that I would get like that, the jerseys
that would disappear. My ex wife had a pretty good
system of he doesn't need that one.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, he's not gonna remember if this is gone. He
has No, he's not gonna.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You know what, I'll tell him that the girls took
it and used it for a class day and.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Then it never found its way home. Oh yeah, I
don't know where that. Oh hey, look, where do you
want to go for dinner tonight? Oh yeah, let's go. Yeah, see,
I got you forget about what sandwich. I remember one
time going into a store in New York and it
was like a collectible store because we were on vacation, like, oh,
there's a big collectible store here, and it was one
of those. It was back in the early two thousands
(23:37):
when I think it was Reebok. I want to say,
had made like the heavy long sleeve T shirts that work.
There were kind of like sweatshirt material, but they had
the raised numbers and names and numbers on both sides
of players. And I was like, okay, wow, this is
really cool. And there was a jets one, there was
a there was a Curtis mark Course, Curtis Martin, there
(23:58):
was a Curtis Martin jets one. And I'm like, oh,
I gotta get this. And I pull it off the
rack and there's huge holes in the middle of the
of the thing, like down where the belly button is,
like there's like four, like three holes that they're not
even near each other. And then and they're off and
I go, oh, well, I gotta say this guy's got
to take money. I still want it, but guy's gotta
take money off. It was like, you know, it was
like fifty dollars if it was. So I go to
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the guy. I go, hey, how much is this? He goes, oh,
what's on the price? I go, well, it says, you know,
forty nine ninety five, but it's got, you know, all
these holes, and I don't know how it looked like
you know, somebody's slice. He goes, oh, no, no, it's
made like that. And I go, it's made like that.
I go, there's no holes anywhere else everything, there's no hole.
I've seen these before. Don't tell me this is made
(24:40):
like that. Don't no, no, it's made with those holes.
He goes, ah, fine, I'll take like, I'll take like,
I'll take twenty bucks off. Well, how's that is? That?
Is that good enough for you? I go, I also
don't have to buy it, and he goes, no, no, no,
I'll take twenty juste, I'll take twenty off. I'll take
twenty off. So I'm like, all right, So I bought
it for thirty and I had it, and you know,
I was able to wear it with the holes. I'm like, ah,
you know, I didn't care, but I'm like, you had
to tried to tell oh, no, no, Kate, Kate comes
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with those on it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I know, when when something comes distressed with rips in it,
that's not this is three holes in the middle of
the in the middle of the belly button, bart right
that that comes like that? Come on?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Man, Well, you know, for about a decade, I've been
trying to find someone maybe who's done a cast of
his hands, like holding a football, because then I'd be
able to buy you that and you'd be able to
forever hold Curtis Martin's hand.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh sure, that'd be great. I'm walking down. It looks
like what's he doing. He's holding Curtis Martin's end. That's
what he's doing. Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
We should have stolen the jaunty hat off his head
that day while we were at it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
But you got to hold his hand. Exit out about
a fresca exit swollen dub Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the tirech dot Com studios. All right, so uh
to this super Bowl story, and I can make everybody
who was upset about the Chiefs getting the calls happy?
Right everybody? Well, okay, I can at least take the
temperature down for you on.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It not possible.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Patrick Mahomes talked today, you know, his press conference today
about and was asked about why the Chiefs had such
a big year. What are you gonna remember about this?
And he said, Hey, this team's been special because it's
been everybody and it seems like someone makes a big
play at the biggest moment to go out there win
a football game. Offense, defense, special teams. We make big
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plays in big moments. That's what's special for him. And
of course when he said this earlier today, everybody's on
social media and the refs well in the refs too.
What about the refs? What about the rest? What about
the rest giving you first downs? What about Josh Allen
and just Josh Allen jiffs where it looks like he's
got the first down and you know, look, this is
the part about this and it's it's really gotten to
(26:40):
a new level because it's one team, because it's the Chiefs.
And I think we realize that, oh, now they've turned
into the evil Empire and instead of being the team
we rooted for and mahomes having a great images, we
can't wait to see them lose. Right, they become the
evil Empire? But what's going on with this? Because I
can't tell you it doesn't exist. I can't tell you that.
I'm so prized that every call that could go one
(27:02):
way or the other goes the Chiefs way. I can't
say I'm surprised that the official on the chief sideline
overruled the official from the from the Bill's sideline, where
Josh Allen had the first down every day. The Josh
Allen play looks worse and worse, and he got the
first down. They didn't give it to him. But what
this falls under is this is something that nobody really
complained about. For Jordan, for other players, it's the Chiefs
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are getting superstar calls. Because that's what happens. The best
teams get superstar calls, the best players get superstar calls.
The best pitchers in Major League Baseball get superstar calls
balls and strikes, the best hitters in Major League Baseball
get superstar calls on balls and strikes. Right, this is
how it's gone in sports forever. But now all of
(27:46):
a sudden, like it's a new thing that, yeah, the
Chiefs get calls. Why because superstars get calls. They get
superstar calls, and going into two series in games, teams
kind of know, well, we know we're not gonna get
any help from the officials. We got to do our best, now,
is it there? No, But this is something that's been
around for a long time. Never really upsets anybody in
the NBA Finals are in the World Series. But here
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now the Super Bowl, everybody the Chiefs are Chiefs, the Chiefs,
and Chiefs are Chiefs. Yeah, it's superstar calls. So when
you understand that's what it is, and it's something that's
been around for a long time. Look, Brady and the Patriots,
how many superstar calls did they get over the course
of their run? They got so many superstar calls? Right,
you can't I can't even count how many they got.
Austin Safaria Jenkins didn't complete the catch, He didn't complete
the catch. He be a good one. Jets killed Carl
(28:31):
uh So, Yeah, when when when you understand it from
that perspective, it becomes more palatable and you maybe you don't,
maybe you hate it a little bit less, but you
understand and you understand it a little bit more that
this is why the Chiefs get these calls. Mahomes is
going to get these calls over anybody else in the NFL,
of course he is.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah, superstar calls are always going to be a thing.
The other is, you know the prism from which you're
you're looking at it right here, here's your lens. Uh
You're maybe hate watching the Chiefs, right, you're an AFC
fan and you're tired of them. You're a Bills fan.
You just don't want just like the Michael Jordan Lebron
James thing. You're a brady person that doesn't want to
(29:13):
see what he just established upended so quickly. Mahomes and
whatever about the Chiefs is unpalatable. You didn't like the
Hallmark movie from the holiday Holidays.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Holiday Holiday, Holiday Holiday.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I wanted to make it a Halloween movie in my
head right there too. That's okay, yeah, which is good,
But you know the holiday movie didn't didn't satisfy and
quench your thirst for lovely holiday fair. I don't know
whatever it is. Maybe you're you're watching it differently as
opposed to all right, now, let's watch it from the
lens of every call that the Bills could have gotten
(29:51):
or should have gotten and didn't, or call against them
that should have been made that they got away with.
Oh that's holding. Yeah, well they didn't call it. That's
not helping the.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Chiefs, is it?
Speaker 5 (30:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Right?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Because I think in the Bills game there were a
couple of calls we're like, wow, that really should have
been called on the edge of the guy holding and
grabbing and clutching. It's like, but it wasn't. Hey play on, uh,
And then we just say, well, you know, they can't
call holding on everything. It's like, well, I don't know,
if you'd called it the other way, it would have
been a big deal. No, you know, So it's it's
(30:27):
that kind of thing that comes through recency biases always
are there of you know, what are we expecting? And
certainly when you add a spotlight to it, Yeah, every
play gets magnified to that level. And as we talked
about the other night, just the the idea that they're
not running away and hiding from teams, right, the Chiefs
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aren't blowing anybody out.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
So if there is a call or.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Two that gets you know, the extra look see by
the by the referees, whether it's the quick review to
upheld thing, to uphold things which which did happen, by
the way, right, the the first call most most specifically,
and and you and I have focused a lot on
the the Josh Allen should have been first down call, uh,
(31:16):
that you know is the one that's kind of getting
thrown out to the side in a lot of this
in favor of the catch down in the red zone,
which again down distance other decisions being made in that
process that that don't get examined, right, So there's like, oh,
it's just a terrible call. Well, let's let's examine it.
(31:38):
Let's let's get you know, be a little more rational, uh,
and give it a more nuanced approach. But I know
it's sports talk video now with the YouTube and and
X and Instagram and everything we're doing in promoting the
show and the network as well as the audio, you
know you need hot take.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Nonsense.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Nuance doesn't sell as well. So I have to call
you an idiot at every turn. Smith, I mean, that's
just the way it has to be. And the officials
have to be awful and the worst things that we've
ever seen and a blight on humanity.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So you know, that's where we're at.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And for folks that are are Chief's apologists, they're not
going to recognize when there might be a little bit
of a favorable call that goes their way, because well no,
I mean that's not how it goes.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
They call them.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
As they see them, just like Rick Flair said, they
always did for him.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Exit. How about a Fresca exit, swollen dome Jason Smith,
Mike Carmon. When you understand the Chiefs gets superstar calls,
it's a lot easy.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
They were getting them before they were superstars.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
They're part of the origin story. We go to our
own superstars. She's been getting superstar calls for the last
ten years. It's Monty Belangnos and she's got what's trending.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah, that's right, and I'm gonna keep getting them if
you all keep it up. If I'm the Chiefs, That's
what I'm saying to Yeah, where you keep getting these calls.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Get over it, Get over you don't like it. We
don't care exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I feel like I'm in the small group of people
who I'm not a Chiefs fan, but they don't bother me.
I don't I'm not bothered by them. And I'm all
about dynasties in any sport. They make the sport, they
make it fun. I used to hate watch the Lakers
for years and years, and when they started sucking, it
wasn't fun. So it's like, I'm all about dynasties.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
So ever, leave it in the margins, manzie, right, leave
it to the officials.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You're gonna get screwed.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Yeah, leave the way it works.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
It's the way it works. But like you guys are saying,
why are you surprised, there's nothing surprising to the situation.
Nothing surprising between the Rockets and the Grizzlies having.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
A tight game.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Houston is on top right now, one oh four to
one oh one, with about eight minutes to go in
the game. The Trailblazers have taken the lead and kept
it from the Magic. They're on top seventy four to
fifty nine halfway through the third quarter. The Wizards have
lost sixteen in a row. After losing to the Lakers
one thirty four to ninety six. The Hawks had beat
the Cavaliers twice this season, not today. Cleveland won it
(34:03):
one thirty seven to one point fifteen, and Anthony Edwards
put on a show in Utah thirty six points, six rebounds,
eleven assists as the Timberwolves topped the Jazz one thirty
eight to one thirteen. On his podcast A Story that
you can read online, Dwayne Wade on his podcast today,
revealed that he had surgery on his kidney in twenty
twenty three. Doctors removed a tumor that was later deemed
(34:27):
to be cancerous. He said he was having stomach issues,
felt very weak, and then obviously he's glad he went
with the surgery at the time, but This was revealed.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
On his podcast today.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
In men's college Hoops at halftime, Ucla is beating Number
sixteen Oregon forty to twenty six. Nebraska snapped their six
game losing streak. They held on to beat number eighteen
Illinois eighty to seventy four in overtime, and number nineteen
Memphis defeated Tulane sixty eight to fifty six. Was the
final score on that one. In the NHL, the Red
(34:58):
Wings and the Oilers are still tied at to a
piece in overtime, and the Capitals lost to the Senators
five to four in overtime earlier today, but Alex Ovechkin
did score, so he is now nineteen goals away from
surpassing Wayne Gretzky with thirty one games left.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Back to you, guys, thanks a bunch mon, Yes, The
Jason Smith Show with the Mike Carmon live from the
Tirak dot com Studios. Coming up next. A big NBA
story that nobody in the NBA wants to be true.
That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
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NBA really hopes is going to go away and go
away fast. Uh. Look, we've talked a lot about gambling probes.
(36:39):
Look the Epey Masuhara situation with Sho Hey O Tani.
We played the audio last week of epay impersonating show.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Hey, well, did you see the update today? That's no
evidence that he had a gambling addiction. Yeah before he
met show. Hey yeah, oh boy, So it's all show
he's fault. He turned him into a gambling. That's that's
what it is. And shall yeah, access to a lot
of money turned it into a gambling.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
It's okay if you pretend to be me. I just
have to have plausible deniability, right, But federal investigators are
looking into Terry Rogier and his play in a very
specific twenty twenty three game. Back when he was playing
for the Hornets. There was a game in twenty twenty
three in which he had a pretty good first quarter,
(37:27):
played the first nine minutes, five points, four rebounds, couple
of assists, not a bad opening quarter. But then he
got hurt and he missed the rest of the game,
and not only that, he missed the last nine games
of the rest of the season. Now, when this happened,
there were posts that was online from back then that
were really upset. They were so upset with sports books.
(37:47):
When it found out that Rogier wasn't going to return
to the game after the first quarter, a lot of
people were saying something shady was going on regarding the
prop bets involving his stats for that night. The NBA
said they looked into it, didn't find anything. But now
whether there's new evidence or not, they're federal investigators looking
at Terry Rozier's play in a twenty twenty three game.
(38:07):
Right now, he plays for the Heat, He's got a
couple more years left on a big contract. Where here's
been a guy that look earlier on his career with
the Celtics and he was a really great up and
coming player. We thought he would be one of the
lynchpins of that of a Celtics team was gonna win
multiple championships. Now, this is why this is such a
big deal for the NBA, And of course they don't
want it to be true because they don't want to
keep hearing about instances of gambling and people fixing games. Right,
(38:32):
But this is the part that we're just gonna have
to deal with because now that prop bets and individual
bets on players have become so popular, like this has
now open the door to personal point shaving. Where before
it was, hey, we want to bet against a team tonight,
and if one player has a bad enough game, that
(38:53):
might be enough to throw the game. Now you can't
play that bad because then it would be obvious. But
it was tough like we had at times that it's
happened where players have tried to throw games in different sports.
There have been you know, big scandals about it points
shaving and not but that was okay. If one guy
has a bad game doesn't guarantee that you're gonna lose.
But over an individual's prop bets and stuff going on, absolutely,
(39:15):
because that is one thing the player can handle. Right,
If my prop bets are are an x amount of
points and and and assists, I'm just gonna make sure
I miss my shots, right, I'm just gonna make sure
that that Maya said, you know, I have a couple
of turnovers, the assists aren't there. Like that's an easy
thing for a player to control. It's much easier than
try to control, you know, something over an entire game.
(39:35):
So I Mike, I don't know, man, I think even
though this is this is a one story now with
Terry Rozier, I don't know that the fixing stuff is
ever gonna go away just because it's gonna be that easy.
As long as prop bets and individual prop bets are
a thing to be able to do something.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Like this, I was gonna have the whispers obviously had
the porter situation right that that really, uh was the
a black guy for for the sport? You go back
to the stuff that still gets swirled about of all right,
what else should have spawned out of this? What else
should we know? And every once in a while to
give something on his podcast like how come you haven't said.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
That in twenty years?
Speaker 5 (40:13):
So like there's there's questions, but yeah, prop bets. Look,
they've always existed, but now you're at a level and
a marketplace when you add the different apparatus apparatus apparatuses, right, yeah, uh,
Because we've been arguing about pluralization, so I'm all self
conscious about it. But the just the idea that you've
(40:33):
got all these different apps whereby you can go uh
and do just very rudimentary linking of players with one
or two stat categories and and bam you're in UH
and and everybody gets to watch them on TV. That's
the other part, right, everybody's got equal access instantaneous alerts
to your phone, et cetera. So when suddenly the you're
(40:56):
getting ping, ping, pings, like all right, everything's good, and
then it stops.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Well, let's investigate why didn't stop hanging me?
Speaker 5 (41:03):
That guy was headed for the over, I was gonna
turn to Chinjingjing really fast.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I didn't get it. Why I haven't gotten that update.
Give me that update.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
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