December 31, 2024 • 41 mins
On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Dan Beyer fills in for Jason Smith. Mike and Dan kick off the hour by diving into Monday Night Football and reacting to the College Bowl Games so far, including Miami QB Cam Ward opting out of the second half of the Pop-Tarts Bowl. Next, College Football Analyst Pete Fiutak joins the show to discuss the College Football Playoff and Bowl Games. Finally, the duo examines the NFL and the season-long records that could be broken in the final week. Don’t miss all this and more in Hour 2!
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seems to be the way of the officiating world. In
the National Football League, the Lions score on a thirty
yard Jamier Gibbs sprint to daylight missed the pat second
one of the night, forty to twenty eight. Ensuing kickoff,
there's a scrum, the ball scorts free and a forty
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nine er player emerges from the pile to go and
runs it all the way towards the end zone.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And you had how many.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Officials are there?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Six seven seven seven total?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Right, so seven seven people standing around shrugging, plus all
the players except for the two that ran down for
the forty nine ers, everybody wondering what the hell's going on?
Instead Nope, down by contact and play resumes. But it
went back to the you know you you astutelee b
member Seahawks Bears just the other night. Yeah, it's touchdown,
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okay unless it's not.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, And this clearly wasn't a touchdown and it wasn't
called a touchdown, but it took them five minutes to
figure it out because no one is really paying attention
to where the ball is. Yep, that's why this this
whole sky judge in conversation like that, I still can't
get over the pass interference call six years ago in
the NFC Championship game. How an official could miss that? Like,
I don't know if we need more officials, we just
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need better officials. I'm not sure because maybe if you
add another one out there, then they also don't see
what's going on. But my goodness, there's just some stuff
that you just nobody had the ball in the pile.
There's no one and I understand that it's tough to see,
but ended up forty nine ers recovered down by contact.
They keep the ball where it was fumbled anyway, but still.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, it looked like a Lions player had jumped on it,
but it scorts through his arm and still is floating.
You see a forty nine er player dive back into
said pile and he's clearly touched by multiple Lions while
he's down, and oh, there you go. Eventually the ball
does get free run, but it doesn't matter coming up
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on the two minute warning. Here forty to twenty eight
the forty nine ers, after the brilliant start to the game,
bogging down a couple of self inflicted wounds here with
some bad tosses as brilliant as he was early, rock
Party pretty choppy.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Can I bring my take back and make it a
hot take? Brock Party should not have played tonight and
should not play next week.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
He's losing money, Damn Bayer, losing money with every throw.
He should freeze. That's what brock Party should do. Go.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, you got to stop the climber, you know, so
he doesn't tip over the mountain. The yodeling guy from
the price is right.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Easiest game to win on the prices right by the way.
But yeah, I'm if I'm brock party, I freeze right now.
If it's card Sharks the.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Three six, no hemy no HEMI we could use every
game show that we've ever watched. Yeah, sixty seven, chase
that card and two picks for Birdie in this one
golf three Zho three and three Gibbs with that thirty
yard run goes over one hundred on the day, He's
got one hundred and seventeen and a score. Williams Laporta
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and I'm on Rossny and Brown all found the end
zone for the Lions, so all your fantasy stars accounted
for on the Lion's side of things. For your San
Francisco forty nine ers. Perhaps he had to get cute
because he was starting Guarendo thirty four yards on nine
carries and Deebo Samuel three touches on the ground for
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sixteen yards. He has one catch for five yards. It
was a touchdown, So you do get that saber, but
clearly not the world win that you were hoping for
and Juwan Jennings five catches forty three yards.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And that's who Steve de Seger is rooting against as
we speak. Got a bump from that. Jake Bates missed
extra point, so Steve is just patiently waiting. It's essentially,
if Juwan Jennings Zungzi doesn't catch a touchdown, he should
be good for all intents and purposes.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Steve just gave me that, Look.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
He's going to He's gonna come in. Look I'm getting
out of the way. I'm closer to the door. I'm
screwed if this goes south after what you just did,
Look what you made me do at Dan Byron Fox.
If you want to want to continue with this at
t Swall and no where you find me your heroes
and zeros from week seventeen. We'll get back into that
in earnest Towards the end of the hour, we got
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Pete Futech coming up talking all things college football in
a few but that's I think where we started. Right
we're talking about brock Purty, should he or shouldn't he
have played? Should he or should not play? Week eighteen,
We're gonna have that same conversation related to Saquon Barkley,
although that's got records attached to it, so it's got
a whole other level of way too. It much like
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cam Ward and what he did for Miami and his three,
you know, having his touchdown performance and they put up
all these gaudy stats in the first half. I was
okay with it. I saw the outrage and the anger
that started to flow as as he did. Operation shutdown,
because I don't think it happened in a vacuum, right.
(06:04):
I think it was part of a plan. Right. It
wasn't a Hey, I got my stats, shait, coach, I'm
not finishing this. Get you got to remix this business
with me. I'm walking to the bench.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I think it's the optics, and I will use the
pop tarts ball as the example here. It's like putting
one pop tart in the toaster. It just looks weird,
like you may not be hungry enough for two, you
may only want one, but it just looks weird. And
that's what I think it was with cam Ward. It
just it ended up looking weird in a Bowl season
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to have a player come in and play one half
and then not play the second half, especially when you
would think that if it was for draft protection, you
wouldn't play at all. Right, So it's if you're going
to play the first, why play the second. To your point, Mike,
I don't necessarily care. And it's not that I don't
care about this story. I just that's fine because that's
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what bulls are right now. That's all these games figuring
figure out what you want. We have had players with
bigger names sit out previously. We've had players in bigger games.
By the way, brock Perdy just left after being sacked.
So Josh Dobbs is now in the game for San Francisco.
But to me, I just don't I don't understand the
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outrage for it, considering it's in it's their decision. He
wanted what one last time with his team go around.
That's fine. In fact, if I'm a Miami quarterback and
you had a quarterback on your roster that that will
be your starter next year, I'd want to I'd want
to see more of them. You know, I've seen enough
of cam Ward. Cam Ward got us thus far. Let's
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go to the next step. Let's see who's next. Let's
see who's on our roster.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, I think some of it owes to the conversation
we were having about party before. When you start getting
into incentives, agreements, all of those things, not to mention that, look,
you're holding a record now, right You're It's a record
that will probably get past yeah, in short order, but
for now, you got the most passing touchdowns in college football.
(08:04):
For whatever it's worth. Anytime you can add an extra
inscription to the trading card show and to the record
book as people go and sell you into the marketplace,
it plays dan it's fair and the boosters and everybody
that helped fund things for your nil collectives and whatever
else they want to return on that as much as
they may want to see the next he's healthy and good.
(08:28):
It is good to go. Like I had a different
feeling when Preston Stone did that and wouldn't go into
the game. And now there's still quibbling over whether he
was going to come in for SMU or not, and
that it was all part of the plan and it
was when it was too late, but he eventually transfers
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to NORTHWESTERNS Like, I don't know how I feel about that, sure, right,
because the game was potentially still in the balance and
they had gone sideways with your starter, so break glass
in case of emergency, and then he didn't go in. Now,
the tale they told afterwards after the media blow up
was that no, no, no, we talked about it late,
did he want another snap? Whatever? And again it goes
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back to the uniform last time, all of those different things.
He's still going to be playing college football. Sure, so
it's a bit of an apples orange. But for the
purpose of this conversation of you know, opting out.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I've and I may be just the wrong guy to
talk about this, Mike, because I am a big college
football fan, but I don't care as much about the records.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And the reason being is.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Because if you're a fan of a school or a
fan of a certain team, you'd be surprised at, actually
who leads what for the players that you remember and
who has done, you know whatever, You'd be surprised, Oh,
that person's our leading receiver of all time, or that
person's the like to know it off the top of
your head is diehards will know it. But I think
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more people than not would be surprised at who leads one.
So if it's a touchdown record here, if it's the
rushing record, that so many people now have so many
different levels, especially now with more games being played, like
it is pretty significant to have the full range of
stats covered to remember who won what and who led what.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, now you also add the play extra playoff rounds?
Are they counting depending on.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The conference, it's a whole mess.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, right, So it's the era of change. One hundred
and fifty eight passing touchdowns. So say, who sticks around
college football long enough to do it? And now you've
got the financial inducements whereby if you don't have that
first round grade, Yeah, guess what I mean. We're talking
some of these rumored seven million dollars nil deals on
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the table for yours or insert quarterback here to.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Transfer yours future. Who knows what it could be.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Just to Mike, I, Steve the Seger is up by
six ten of a point. Okay, this fantasy football game
in his championship game right now.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I don't mean to be the guest to come in
and but this is and it's basically Juwan Jennings, Like
that's what it is. So I don't know if Steve's
not even listening to us, but it's uh, and I
think Juwan Jennings is in the game.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
First and goal, fifty four seconds remaining, Dobbs under center.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Oh, they went to him and it's incomplete.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
He completed. It'll be second down.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
So then Jake Bates extra point may have been the
saving grace for one Steve de Seger.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
We will know how this ends as we continue here
live fromthtirak dot Com studios. Hey, we've got an important
guest coming up in fifty seconds. As we know in
the National Football League can take an eternity.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That is true. I am game. He's dam to let
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
There you go. We are all apprized nationwide and globally,
and we're all rooting for Steve at Dan on Fox
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Speaker 2 (13:17):
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Speaker 3 (13:28):
Hey Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith
Show with Me, Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith tonight in
instead my buddy Dan Byer, the iWatch Flex podcast, hanging
out during the days and doing his work at the
news desk and working with Doug Gottlieb and Cavino and
Rich and of course Sunday Red Zone Radios alongside Kerrie
(13:48):
Rhoads and Dan Byer. I mean, you want to break
some news here. I mean, I don't think we need
the old pomp and circumstance and pat yet.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
But there's a champion in our mits. Steve is a
fantasy football championship by point five to nine points time
after time. Baits missed extra point the second time around
is what separates Steve de Sager from everyone else.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
And then he is a champion.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
How about that? Congrats's gotta be worth a double sawbuck
to whatever Baits is charity of choices. Congratulations Steve Disager.
He got the queen over the top as well.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
He's the first person to ever win a championship and
then not say anything into the mic after there.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
It is Can you imagine the other guy in the
final losing by a mysst extra.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I just told Mike, I said, I lost in my
fantasy league last year in the final and Harrison Butker
kicked six field goals. And I still remember it to
this day. I got lost to a six field goal
to lose by an extra point. That's ridiculous, awful.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Good wins, bad losses, sometimes bad wins, but they feel
so good. Congratulations Steve Desager, a guy who knows a
thing or two about chronicling good bad, ugly coaching decisions,
bad college kickers, all of those things. We go out
to the hotline. Now for our buddy. It's Pete Futech.
College Footballnews dot com is the website is where you
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find him at Dan Byer on Fox, at Swollen Home
where you find me. And there's the music hit my
music readying for the next round of the college football playoffs,
all the pomp and circumstance of Week seventeen of the
NFL finally dead and gone. There so a proper introduction
at fu Tech where you find him. Go to college
(15:43):
Footballnews dot com. He writes everything, he watches everything like
a hawk. He's like Santa Claus. What's going on, buddy?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Well, I've been playing in my fantasy my guys since
nineteen eighty seven. So the scars from that over thirty
eight years of fantasy football are more than any other
personal scars by myself and others from losses such as
like people when people lose on a missed extor point
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in the final five seconds of a meaningless game.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, because you also had to do a lot more
work back then. It wasn't tabulated for you. You had
to decide on the source of stats. You had to
wait for your commissioner to tabulate it all. Were you
that taser?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I have the honor of back in the day at
the University of Wisconsin kind of during one of my
classes with now Melt just say Melt Tucker helping to
look through the USA today that to physically write down
the scores from the day before, as opposed to getting
him online now we do.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Right now, I do have to ask Pete, what dorm
were you in class?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
I was in class.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I was like, no, no, but what dorm did you
stay in?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I was in Celery at the time, So it'd be
because I was the one person I got into school
like in October and I somehow waited six months to
send in my housing thing, and I got the last
like dorm on campus. So my entire dorm floor was
me and a bunch of other idiots two ways of
the last second to get in. So not exactly now
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Gonquin roundtable of people there of you know, people getting
into classroom.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I did just want to say that I think you
would have been in og but I was also in
celery A.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But I think a few years later than you were Peche.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, everyone later than night. I figured that out
by this point. I got in just by literally right
down my name and address. That's all. That's that's all.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I got.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Half the battle, that half the bat.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
There you go, Pete. As we get ready for the
next round of the playoffs, we'll get those in earnest
here in a minute. But the Bold season day, we
saw Iowa and Kirk Farence with his uh masterful coaching
in the final minutes of the game, the latest great
example of we need to hire more people as gms
at college campuses, and we need a whole team of
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NASA scientists to navigate the final two minutes for coaches.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
It's weird. I don't know why. There's a bunch of
things that in all our weird role in of analytics.
I just I will never be convinced that it is
the right move to go for two in various spots,
except when you score a touchdown to go up seven
and you have a chance to go up two scores.
There's that, and there's the inability to kind of figure
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out just timeouts. We got in the pros too, right
last night, did we saw screw up with the Atlanta Falcons,
which also lost the game this year by unnecessarily going
for two. So there's coaches are just kind of weird creatures.
They just kind of go with, you know, what they
know and their habits, and now they're starting to let
they listen to the analytics types here and there for
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good and for bad. And you're right, you know, Iowa,
they should have called a couple of timeouts there, and
they should have figured it out, relaxed and figured out
how to get a first out. Instead, you got that
game over. Mazoo wins your Music City Bowl.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
We know that at some point, because football playoff, we're
going to go significant changes from what it is now.
Brett McMurphy saying today we could see some as soon
as next year. What's the first thing they need to
correct that they got wrong this year.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
The College Football Playoff Committee just has to do their
job better, like everyone's going to complain. In fact, the
first round games being lousy was actually necessary because you
can't you have to put in the eleven win Power
Conference teams. You had to kind of put in Indiana.
I don't think you should have put in that SVU,
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but okay, fine, because then everyone screams and yellow say
they should get their shot, and then they get blown
out by the better team and then we have closure.
You don't really need to see Alabama in there or
you know, an Ole Miss team or South Carolina. We
know what they should do. So the first round being
a blowoup all being blowout is fine. The problem was
the committee blew it by first like this whole idea
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is saying, well, we're not going to punish team that
lose their conference championship. Well why not? You know, that's
the whole point is you're supposed to take the whole
body of work, and that's what they're thing. What's from
the beginning. Secondly, they didn't give enough credit excuse me,
the conference champions by ranking SMU ahead of Clemson, which
is something it never used to do. So they screwed
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up their rankings, they screwed up their process, and they
screw up everything that they've done from twenty fourteen on
with this one ranking. And so the seating wasn't right
because they messed it up. If they get it right,
you still get blowouts. But you know what, let's see,
let's wait and see. Let's waiting to make you absolutely
sure that number three Boise States does get you know,
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blown out by Penn State and that Arizona State gets
rocked to before we just kind of assume that, oh gosh,
we can't put the seeding like this. Well, let's let's
just wait and see when these two teams get blowout,
blown out, and then we'll kind of go from there.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I did respect the gamesmanship of James Franklin. Hey, Jent
d this is one of the greatest seasons you've ever
seen by a guy that's one of college football uniform
and called himself a running back. And you better write
it down because if we lose, we lost to the
greatest of all time.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
We were beaten by the best beat.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Yeah, it's not gonna fly outside of Janty. You know
how many other guys on Boise State play for Penn State.
You know, it's it's it's a crazy time of bull
year when you do have such a disparity. And look,
there's no excuse. Now I don't like this whole idea. Well,
you know, James Franklin can't still can't win the big one.
We're not buying smu Well the college football playoffs. Do
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won a game? Like, give him a little bit of
a break. He's won seventy something percent of his games.
He's pretty good at this. But yeah, if they lose
the Boise State, you know, and look, Boise State is
the winning his program in the college football Playoff era
to not make the College football Playoff. I know, a
group of five all that, but still they've won more
games than anybody else without getting in. I Poly Wisconsin
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was number one among the Power of five teams for forever.
And let's let's just make sure that they that boys
you think doesn't come up with something because I don't
think they're going to win two games, but then they
could be Penn State if this works, but I don't
think they will.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
How much are we going to see off arch Manning
on New Year's Day in Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
I don't think enough. We shouldn't see any Actually, I
don't know why they're so desperate to get rid of
Quinn Hers already. You know, say thanks for everything. He's
he's an NFL quarterback, he's got, he's accurate, he's gotten
them here. And what's kind of screwed them up? What
almost screwed him up in the first run against Clemson,
it was they kept trying to shoehorn in arch Manning
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for specific plays when you just didn't need to do it.
And then I don't know if there's people yelling at
Sarkesi to get him in there already, or oh my god,
arch Manning might transfer or something. Well whatever, you're Texas,
you'll go get another quarterback, big deal, you know, But
Quinnywards is supposed to find his ankle is supposedly better, and yeah,
there might be a couple of packages here where arch
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Manning runs or something. We all know he's going to
be great. I don't know he's gonna be, you know,
at number one overall draft pick in a couple of
years and all that. But for right now, the way
you wears is playing. Yeah, just keep them going.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah to that end, I always entertained myself by finding
some old Texas footage and watching Mac Brown and the
assistants losing their minds when they had to figure out
the major Apple White Chris Sims.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Until Chris Sims, but yeah, until Chris Sims throwed nineteen
interceptions in the Big twelve championship game against Colorado and
then got replaced. But yeah, it's you've always and you're
gonna have that going forward. You have to make everyone happy.
But look, and that's kind of part of the problem.
This is a college football playoff. Now, this is you
don't mess around. You can't you can't do it. Just
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go keep trying to win these games because it's gonna
be hard for all these teams to keep advancing. I
mean again, Arizona State's pretty good. You know, Boyden think's
pretty good. I don't think either will win. But you
can't take any of them for granted.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Right now, you've get pretty close to saying it's the
bleeping Catalina wine mixer.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Nice, you were close, all right.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think there's a lot of talk about Ohio State,
not as much talked about Oregon for the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Are you getting that sense at all?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
It's all about the redemption for the buck Eyes, how
well they played against Tennessee, the past interference on Jeremiah Smith,
the Will Howard slide. I'm not hearing a lot of
Oregon talk. Is that the sense that you're getting? And
is it maybe better for the Ducks that way?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Probably, because I mean you're right. I mean they're very, very,
very good. I mean they're the only in the fIF
team left. I mean they did actually beat Ohio State,
they did actually beat Penn State and put up a
ton of points on a really good Penn State defense.
You know, but the star power isn't there. I mean,
Dyn Gabriel is just he doesn't have the national buzz
and Ohio State's just better, they have more talent. When
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Ohio State plays like it did against Tennessee, that's it.
You know, that's forget it. You know, you want you
go out there and gets the you know, eight men
OUs thing. It's like not today, after you see that
first pitch coming and yet nope, forget it. But you know,
so I do think that well, I don't think Chets
gets out of its own head, and I think they
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finally did. I said it at the time, and I
got yelled at and all that the loss of Michigan
was probably the best thing that could happen to them.
They got the extra week off, they got a little healthier,
and man, the team that came out of that tunnel,
that was a different attitude team, like, all right, the
worst thing in the world happened to us, and we're
still here and we have our red uniforms and they
just looked amazing. Again, said to see, so you're right,
(25:34):
there's a long way a way of saying, yeah, no
one's talking about Oregon, but if you're if we look
back and say, you know, let them cry for the
national championship on New Year's Days, probably not wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
But to follow with that, you know, with Ohio State, right,
the narrative all along is I mean, Ryan Day it's
one of the few coaches folks can pick out of
a lineup because all that's been written, taking the James Franklin,
he can't beat a good team just on steroids. To
this point to where even if it is, as so
(26:04):
many people have termed it, the lunatic fringe are the
only people that would legitimately want Ryan Day out, it
makes for a good story.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Absolutely, I mean, yeah, he maybe can't can't be Michigan lately,
but he's won maybe three percent of his games, and
you know, find the coaches and the coaches, we can
do that. But yeah, you're right. It's it's just because again,
the two best teams in the college in college football,
Ohio State in Georgia. It just depends on whether or
not they play like it. They have the most NFL guys,
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they're the most loaded, they have the most money, they
have the most depth, and that kind of puts the
pressure on them to be the stars and stars where
after all this, after all the college football playoffs stuff
and all the ring are we gonna be really shocked
when it's Ohio States versus Georgia for the national championship? No?
You know, so that's because it's unfortunately, this is not
going to be like the NCAA tournament and kind of
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we just kind of talk before but before we're not
gonna have a Cinderella team. We're not gonna have You
can't just get hot them three. You can't just have
the right picture. You can't have a goalie stand in
their head. It's not like that's not how college football works.
You might have one upset. You're not gonna get TCU
beating Michigan and Georgia like we you know, like a
couple of years ago, the thoughts some people thought we
were going to get, So you're gonna get the disparity
(27:17):
of talent is just going to come through, just screamingly
loud and clear. And the kind of what this college
football Playoff shows is just what a big gap there
is before the teams that have all the money and
talent and the teams that don't.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Okay, So then where does that upset happen? If it
does in the quarterfinals.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Notre Dame George isn't an upset, right, because that's probably
the one that that's probably the closest nothing. You know,
Oregon beating Ohio State really wouldn't be an upset or
anything like this, I guess because it's Texas and we
know I keep saying they're gonna blow it at some point.
So if not, now it's the next round. I don't
think boys, I mean, give you give Penn State ten
(28:00):
days to get ready. They're right, they're just gonna stop too.
They're just getting Actually, jet he's not beating us now.
It doesn't mean that bois I think doesn't have enough
of passing me via bye. But this is a this
is a talented team full of NFL guys too. I
don't think Boise State can get this done. But if
as in the state, everything kind of clicks and again
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Texas goes Texas, Yeah, that might be where the one
kind of thing that could happen could happen.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Twelve and a half or thirteen the number there Arizona State,
Texas made certainly Levitt going out of his way to
put up some bulletin board material. Hey, say my name,
say my name, I talk to hear about viewers and
and Manning and all these other guys. I'm the best.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
I kind of yeah, in this you can't really go
by too much in this shockingly good Bull season so
far as there's so many opt outs. But what we're
kind of seeing a little bit here is, you know,
outside of a you know, cam Ward sitting out the
second half, weg so I always stated it's big twelve
was not very good, and we kind of well kind
of knew this. We knew the ACC wasn't very good.
(29:04):
That's proven out. But you know, Colorado getting torched, and
you know, the big twelve so far has been okay
in Arizona State. Winning the Big twelve championship is good.
But if Texas just doesn't screw this thing up, they
should be just fined.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Pete Futech with US College Footballnews dot com, where you
follow him at Pete Futech. He'll join us later on
in the week as we recap what goes on over
the next two nights. Pete, enjoy the festivities. I can't
wait to read all the reviews and follow your tweets
as you live and die with each possession.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Oh god, I do, don't. I just probably need to
unplug between this and fantasy football. I'm football down. I
said it, I'm footballed out.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You got one more mod, buddy, Yeah, let's actually the
Bears are done. You don't have to worry about that anymore,
but a little little less in terms of you know,
the herd on the ticker, So you got a couple
more days here to roll through. You should put a
live camera up to as well. Let's let's watch your video.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Form real entertaining me drinking coffee all day long, sitting
in front of computers and screen.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, er, no, no, no, But if you give us the
verbal accompaniment like you do when you visit us. Mean, look,
we're sarcastic to the core. You and Smith. Dan's got like, well,
we all have that. So I think it would be
you know, Mystery Science Theater three thousand for college football.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
And the people who get that reference, who will be
watching me drink coffee and make a little wise cracks.
That would be an interesting group.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's a billion dollar industry.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
That would be the salary B crowd is what we're
talking about here.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
There you go at Pete feu Tech again where you
find it.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Pete.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Appreciate you joining us. Enjoy the games. We'll talk to
you later a week. You guys, be good man. All right,
Dan byer in for Jason Smith on my Carmen as
we come to you from the diirac dot com Fox
Sports Radio studios. We'll talk about the opt out opt
in records, what does it all mean? But first it's
Steve Desager. He's got what's going on in our large
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sporting world. The Champ, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Champ is here, Detroit Lions.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
We're at San Francisco tonight. Did you know the Niners
averaged eight yards per play in this game? And did
not win forty to thirty four Detroit the final as
Jake Moody had his problems again as San Francisco kicker.
Missed a fifty one yard field goal attempt late in
the first half, missed a fifty eight yard or early
fourth quarter, missed a late extra point try. Niners lost
(31:34):
by six. They were up by eight at the half.
We brought this up earlier in the show. Kyle Shanahan,
let's just say he's familiar with blowing leads of eight
points or so and losing games. In fact, AP updates
the stat Can you name a coach in the last
decade that has a worse winning percentage than Kyle Shanahan
and games where they're up eight? Actually, Matt Naggy and
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Frank Raig, that's pretty much the list. Detroit beat San
Francisco by six. The Niners record now six and ten.
Brock Purty four total touchdowns but two second half interceptions.
He had three hundred and seventy seven yards passing. The
Detroit Lions have finished undefeated on the road this year,
eight to no. They're fourteen and two overall, and the
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Lions will play the regular season finale this Sunday night,
hosting the Vikings to decide the NFC North and the
number one seed in the NFC.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
By the way, the Jets are due to.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Interview Ron Rivera this week for their head coach opening,
and Rex Ryan expects to interview there. College Football's Music
City Bowl at nineteenth rank, Missouri down ten to Iowa
late third quarter come back to win twenty seven to
twenty four. Brady Cook two touchdown passes. Mazoo got two
field goals in the fourth quarter from fifty one and
fifty six yards. Five bowl games tomorrow, including that one
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to start the college football Playoff in the NBA. Among
the seven games tonight, Denver won at Utah one thirty
two to one twenty one. Nicolo Jokich not just a
triple double. He had thirty six points, twenty two rebounds,
and eleven assists, and teammate Russell Westbrook had a triple
double with no turnovers. Clippers sent New Orleans to a
(33:11):
tenth straight loss Chicago one in overtime at Charlotte. Hornets
have lost eight straight. Knicks won their eighth in a row.
That was at Washington. MAVs are leading mid third quarter
at Sacramento, sixty eight, sixty four.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Back to you, Thanks so much, Dave the champ as
he revels in that for the duration of the evening,
we'll continue here. He's Dan byer in for Jason Smith.
I'm Mike Harmer. I'm jealous of him because he gets
to know. I mean, I don't know the guy he
beat is the problem, because if it was someone around
these hallways, we could go full on. I'm the Wiz,
get him a crown and a cape and he get Dorman.
(33:44):
I don't know who that guy is.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
There is the There is the dreaded stat correction. So
tomorrow it will be finalized. So the unofficial champ right now.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Wow.
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A couple of days off. Youn't get out of sorts.
Don't know what to do with yourself. You're yelling at
the television like you're doing a segment and instead now
(35:28):
I'm back in the studio with you here. Dan, we
talked about brock Purty and you know whether he should
have done a Queen's Wave to the forty nine or
faithful tonight and then not played Bomb went through most
of the game and then got hurt. So I'm gonna
go on a limit, say for week eighteen against Arizona.
It's operations shut down, all right, and we'll see Josh
Dobbs there. You've already heard it, Sean McDermott, everything going
(35:52):
on in Buffalo because he's got a consecutive game street going.
Josh Allen will start, he's gonna shake everybody's hands, he's
gonna wave to the crowd, and he's gonna walk away.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I have zero problem with that, because if the game
was meant to be something Josh Allen would play, you're
just not risking it.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
This isn't this isn't cheapening.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
You know a record to continue it just to throw
a guy out there and then replace him because you
want to see the younger guy. Josh Allen would play
the whole game if there was something to play for.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Look at you getting dragging the giants and that whole
Eli Manning, Jo Smith.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yes, you know, it goes even goes back to cam
Ward a little bit. You know, there's you know, whether
people like the record or you know, didn't like the records.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
This is another you know, possible possible record for Josh
Allen at some.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Point that'll continue at least, you know, through next season
or until next season.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, And either way, everybody gets up and goes to work,
They get their kids up and off to school as
they need to, and you go with many different motivations. Yes,
and you go through your day interacting with your colleagues
with many different motivations.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Well, heck, tomorrow's a half day for a lot of workplaces.
So yeah, that's all. It is just gonna be a
half day for Josh.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Operation shutdown, absolutely, all right. So Sakuon Barkley three hundred
and forty five carries two thousand and five yards. That
gives you a nice robust five point eight yards per carry.
He is one hundred yards away from surpassing Eric Dickerson,
who made it known on' a Friend of the Show.
Helped make the show in its infancy in his battles
(37:23):
with the Rams and Field passes and Disneyland passes, and
his dislike and distrust of Jeff Fisher and their battles
and squabbles over petty stuff. So I'm still waiting for
my Super Bowl ring because we were part of what
happened to really build up to Jeff Fisher getting bounced
(37:43):
in Sean McVay showing up. You're welcome Rams fans anyway,
he made it pretty clear it's like, well, let's caveat
it out because you know, games played and all these
other things, which is still to me in this day
and age with a guy that had injury history that
Saquon has but running getting through a full seventeen games slate, Hell,
you should get an award just.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
For that, right, especially with the number of touches that
we're at.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Well, considering for what we've seen from Sakuon Barkley when
we think of him as someone who's injury prone, he's
been pretty available for his teams over the last three seasons,
so that kno gotten him where he missed, you know,
almost an entire year and would miss certain games. For
the most part, he's been there for his team over
the last three.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Seasons, three hundred and seventy eight touches thus far. But
right now he's thirty four fewer rushing attempts than Dickerson
in his record setting year, Dickerson averaging five point six
yards per carry. But you get the extra game, and look,
the rules of engagement change, records get broken, schedules change.
(38:50):
I don't think I've heard many people crying about single
season home run records or any of those things. And
baseball was, you know, the sanctity of the game.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Well, I'll say this, and I asked this to my
partner on Sunday, Carrie Rhoades, the former All Pro safety
for the Jets and Cardinals, And I asked him if
he thinks that running the football now is easier or
more difficult than it was, say, when Eric Dickerson broke
the record, and Mike, I think that it's a lot
easier right now to run the football. We don't see
teams run the football a lot because it's such a
(39:20):
quarterback dominated league, but defenses because of that, defenses aren't
built to stop the run. So if you actually do
hang your hat on running the football, like some of
these teams do, think it's I think it's easier to
run now than it was when Eric Dickerson or Barry
Sanders or Emmitt Smith were playing. I just think that
those defenses back then were actually built to stop the run,
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and now I think you have an advantage if you
just wanted to do that.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I mean we had the outliers of guys like
Marino and Kelly firing it around. But outside of that,
still three yards in a cloud of dust you and
I grew up on, and certainly me and Chicago we've
never gotten away from it. Insert punched in a rim
shot or whatever you want to do there. But the
idea of being that you're seeing the successive teams that
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have reverted back to that style take nothing away from
the passing acumen and what Lamar Jackson's done with his numbers.
It's predicated on Derrick Henry bludgeoning people with great regularity,
and especially the second half of games. All of a sudden,
you're coming down as a linebacker and he's beating you
up a bunch. Not to mention the business decisions on
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the corner, no chance. So we saw it with San
Francisco when McCaffrey was healthy. What they were able to do.
Elijah Mitchell, whoever else substituted. It was a machine. Go
back to the Denver days of Shanahan the Elder and
everybody was a thousand yard Russher. But it was more
the blocking scheme that was advanced. But you know, we
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don't have the same defensive interior of four hundred pound
guys sitting squat in the line. No, you've got to
be able to be a dancing bear on the offensive
line and on the defensive front. You got to be
fast enough to chase these guys down.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeah, we see teams line up with two linemen.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
It's crazy as it is, like guys, the two guys
in the stance, you know, on a four point stance,
of three point stance on the want of scrimmage on defense.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
It was not like that back in the day.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Now, so I'll get the credit for being able to
stay healthy through it, but I agree with you, different animal,
different game. It's a different sport. It's like watching the
NBA now that everybody laments so much. Look at what
it used to be. Same thing. NFL. It evolves, it changes.
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seems to be the way of the officiating world. In
the National Football League, the Lions score on a thirty
yard Jamier Gibbs sprint to daylight missed the pat second
one of the night, forty to twenty eight. Ensuing kickoff,
there's a scrum, the ball scorts free and a forty
(01:15):
nine er player emerges from the pile to go and
runs it all the way towards the end zone.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And you had how many.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Officials are there?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Six seven seven seven total?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Right, so seven seven people standing around shrugging, plus all
the players except for the two that ran down for
the forty nine ers, everybody wondering what the hell's going on?
Instead Nope, down by contact and play resumes. But it
went back to the you know you you astutelee b
member Seahawks Bears just the other night. Yeah, it's touchdown,
(01:47):
okay unless it's not.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, And this clearly wasn't a touchdown and it wasn't
called a touchdown, but it took them five minutes to
figure it out because no one is really paying attention
to where the ball is. Yep, that's why this this
whole sky judge in conversation like that, I still can't
get over the pass interference call six years ago in
the NFC Championship game. How an official could miss that? Like,
I don't know if we need more officials, we just
(02:11):
need better officials. I'm not sure because maybe if you
add another one out there, then they also don't see
what's going on. But my goodness, there's just some stuff
that you just nobody had the ball in the pile.
There's no one and I understand that it's tough to see,
but ended up forty nine ers recovered down by contact.
They keep the ball where it was fumbled anyway, but still.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, it looked like a Lions player had jumped on it,
but it scorts through his arm and still is floating.
You see a forty nine er player dive back into
said pile and he's clearly touched by multiple Lions while
he's down, and oh, there you go. Eventually the ball
does get free run, but it doesn't matter coming up
(02:54):
on the two minute warning. Here forty to twenty eight
the forty nine ers, after the brilliant start to the game,
bogging down a couple of self inflicted wounds here with
some bad tosses as brilliant as he was early, rock
Party pretty choppy.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Can I bring my take back and make it a
hot take? Brock Party should not have played tonight and
should not play next week.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
He's losing money, Damn Bayer, losing money with every throw.
He should freeze. That's what brock Party should do. Go.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, you got to stop the climber, you know, so
he doesn't tip over the mountain. The yodeling guy from
the price is right.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Easiest game to win on the prices right by the way.
But yeah, I'm if I'm brock party, I freeze right now.
If it's card Sharks the.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Three six, no hemy no HEMI we could use every
game show that we've ever watched. Yeah, sixty seven, chase
that card and two picks for Birdie in this one
golf three Zho three and three Gibbs with that thirty
yard run goes over one hundred on the day, He's
got one hundred and seventeen and a score. Williams Laporta
(04:03):
and I'm on Rossny and Brown all found the end
zone for the Lions, so all your fantasy stars accounted
for on the Lion's side of things. For your San
Francisco forty nine ers. Perhaps he had to get cute
because he was starting Guarendo thirty four yards on nine
carries and Deebo Samuel three touches on the ground for
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sixteen yards. He has one catch for five yards. It
was a touchdown, So you do get that saber, but
clearly not the world win that you were hoping for
and Juwan Jennings five catches forty three yards.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And that's who Steve de Seger is rooting against as
we speak. Got a bump from that. Jake Bates missed
extra point, so Steve is just patiently waiting. It's essentially,
if Juwan Jennings Zungzi doesn't catch a touchdown, he should
be good for all intents and purposes.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Steve just gave me that, Look.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
He's going to He's gonna come in. Look I'm getting
out of the way. I'm closer to the door. I'm
screwed if this goes south after what you just did,
Look what you made me do at Dan Byron Fox.
If you want to want to continue with this at
t Swall and no where you find me your heroes
and zeros from week seventeen. We'll get back into that
in earnest Towards the end of the hour, we got
(05:21):
Pete Futech coming up talking all things college football in
a few but that's I think where we started. Right
we're talking about brock Purty, should he or shouldn't he
have played? Should he or should not play? Week eighteen,
We're gonna have that same conversation related to Saquon Barkley,
although that's got records attached to it, so it's got
a whole other level of way too. It much like
(05:42):
cam Ward and what he did for Miami and his three,
you know, having his touchdown performance and they put up
all these gaudy stats in the first half. I was
okay with it. I saw the outrage and the anger
that started to flow as as he did. Operation shutdown,
because I don't think it happened in a vacuum, right.
(06:04):
I think it was part of a plan. Right. It
wasn't a Hey, I got my stats, shait, coach, I'm
not finishing this. Get you got to remix this business
with me. I'm walking to the bench.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I think it's the optics, and I will use the
pop tarts ball as the example here. It's like putting
one pop tart in the toaster. It just looks weird,
like you may not be hungry enough for two, you
may only want one, but it just looks weird. And
that's what I think it was with cam Ward. It
just it ended up looking weird in a Bowl season
(06:36):
to have a player come in and play one half
and then not play the second half, especially when you
would think that if it was for draft protection, you
wouldn't play at all. Right, So it's if you're going
to play the first, why play the second. To your point, Mike,
I don't necessarily care. And it's not that I don't
care about this story. I just that's fine because that's
(06:57):
what bulls are right now. That's all these games figuring
figure out what you want. We have had players with
bigger names sit out previously. We've had players in bigger games.
By the way, brock Perdy just left after being sacked.
So Josh Dobbs is now in the game for San Francisco.
But to me, I just don't I don't understand the
(07:17):
outrage for it, considering it's in it's their decision. He
wanted what one last time with his team go around.
That's fine. In fact, if I'm a Miami quarterback and
you had a quarterback on your roster that that will
be your starter next year, I'd want to I'd want
to see more of them. You know, I've seen enough
of cam Ward. Cam Ward got us thus far. Let's
(07:37):
go to the next step. Let's see who's next. Let's
see who's on our roster.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, I think some of it owes to the conversation
we were having about party before. When you start getting
into incentives, agreements, all of those things, not to mention that, look,
you're holding a record now, right You're It's a record
that will probably get past yeah, in short order, but
for now, you got the most passing touchdowns in college football.
(08:04):
For whatever it's worth. Anytime you can add an extra
inscription to the trading card show and to the record
book as people go and sell you into the marketplace,
it plays dan it's fair and the boosters and everybody
that helped fund things for your nil collectives and whatever
else they want to return on that as much as
they may want to see the next he's healthy and good.
(08:28):
It is good to go. Like I had a different
feeling when Preston Stone did that and wouldn't go into
the game. And now there's still quibbling over whether he
was going to come in for SMU or not, and
that it was all part of the plan and it
was when it was too late, but he eventually transfers
(08:48):
to NORTHWESTERNS Like, I don't know how I feel about that, sure, right,
because the game was potentially still in the balance and
they had gone sideways with your starter, so break glass
in case of emergency, and then he didn't go in. Now,
the tale they told afterwards after the media blow up
was that no, no, no, we talked about it late,
did he want another snap? Whatever? And again it goes
(09:10):
back to the uniform last time, all of those different things.
He's still going to be playing college football. Sure, so
it's a bit of an apples orange. But for the
purpose of this conversation of you know, opting out.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
I've and I may be just the wrong guy to
talk about this, Mike, because I am a big college
football fan, but I don't care as much about the records.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And the reason being is.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Because if you're a fan of a school or a
fan of a certain team, you'd be surprised at, actually
who leads what for the players that you remember and
who has done, you know whatever, You'd be surprised, Oh,
that person's our leading receiver of all time, or that
person's the like to know it off the top of
your head is diehards will know it. But I think
(09:56):
more people than not would be surprised at who leads one.
So if it's a touchdown record here, if it's the
rushing record, that so many people now have so many
different levels, especially now with more games being played, like
it is pretty significant to have the full range of
stats covered to remember who won what and who led what.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Well, now you also add the play extra playoff rounds?
Are they counting depending on.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
The conference, it's a whole mess.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, right, So it's the era of change. One hundred
and fifty eight passing touchdowns. So say, who sticks around
college football long enough to do it? And now you've
got the financial inducements whereby if you don't have that
first round grade, Yeah, guess what I mean. We're talking
some of these rumored seven million dollars nil deals on
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the table for yours or insert quarterback here to.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Transfer yours future. Who knows what it could be.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Just to Mike, I, Steve the Seger is up by
six ten of a point. Okay, this fantasy football game
in his championship game right now.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I don't mean to be the guest to come in
and but this is and it's basically Juwan Jennings, Like
that's what it is. So I don't know if Steve's
not even listening to us, but it's uh, and I
think Juwan Jennings is in the game.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
First and goal, fifty four seconds remaining, Dobbs under center.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Oh, they went to him and it's incomplete.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
He completed. It'll be second down.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
So then Jake Bates extra point may have been the
saving grace for one Steve de Seger.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
We will know how this ends as we continue here
live fromthtirak dot Com studios. Hey, we've got an important
guest coming up in fifty seconds. As we know in
the National Football League can take an eternity.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
That is true. I am game. He's dam to let
you know.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
There you go. We are all apprized nationwide and globally,
and we're all rooting for Steve at Dan on Fox
at Swollendome where you find me. As we continue, Peak
few Tech joins us, talking all things college football as
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Speaker 2 (13:17):
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Speaker 3 (13:28):
Hey Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith
Show with Me, Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith tonight in
instead my buddy Dan Byer, the iWatch Flex podcast, hanging
out during the days and doing his work at the
news desk and working with Doug Gottlieb and Cavino and
Rich and of course Sunday Red Zone Radios alongside Kerrie
(13:48):
Rhoads and Dan Byer. I mean, you want to break
some news here. I mean, I don't think we need
the old pomp and circumstance and pat yet.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
But there's a champion in our mits. Steve is a
fantasy football championship by point five to nine points time
after time. Baits missed extra point the second time around
is what separates Steve de Sager from everyone else.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
And then he is a champion.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
How about that? Congrats's gotta be worth a double sawbuck
to whatever Baits is charity of choices. Congratulations Steve Disager.
He got the queen over the top as well.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
He's the first person to ever win a championship and
then not say anything into the mic after there.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
It is Can you imagine the other guy in the
final losing by a mysst extra.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I just told Mike, I said, I lost in my
fantasy league last year in the final and Harrison Butker
kicked six field goals. And I still remember it to
this day. I got lost to a six field goal
to lose by an extra point. That's ridiculous, awful.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Good wins, bad losses, sometimes bad wins, but they feel
so good. Congratulations Steve Desager, a guy who knows a
thing or two about chronicling good bad, ugly coaching decisions,
bad college kickers, all of those things. We go out
to the hotline. Now for our buddy. It's Pete Futech.
College Footballnews dot com is the website is where you
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find him at Dan Byer on Fox, at Swollen Home
where you find me. And there's the music hit my
music readying for the next round of the college football playoffs,
all the pomp and circumstance of Week seventeen of the
NFL finally dead and gone. There so a proper introduction
at fu Tech where you find him. Go to college
(15:43):
Footballnews dot com. He writes everything, he watches everything like
a hawk. He's like Santa Claus. What's going on, buddy?
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Well, I've been playing in my fantasy my guys since
nineteen eighty seven. So the scars from that over thirty
eight years of fantasy football are more than any other
personal scars by myself and others from losses such as
like people when people lose on a missed extor point
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in the final five seconds of a meaningless game.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Well, because you also had to do a lot more
work back then. It wasn't tabulated for you. You had
to decide on the source of stats. You had to
wait for your commissioner to tabulate it all. Were you
that taser?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I have the honor of back in the day at
the University of Wisconsin kind of during one of my
classes with now Melt just say Melt Tucker helping to
look through the USA today that to physically write down
the scores from the day before, as opposed to getting
him online now we do.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Right now, I do have to ask Pete, what dorm
were you in class?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
I was in class.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I was like, no, no, but what dorm did you
stay in?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I was in Celery at the time, So it'd be
because I was the one person I got into school
like in October and I somehow waited six months to
send in my housing thing, and I got the last
like dorm on campus. So my entire dorm floor was
me and a bunch of other idiots two ways of
the last second to get in. So not exactly now
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Gonquin roundtable of people there of you know, people getting
into classroom.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I did just want to say that I think you
would have been in og but I was also in
celery A.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But I think a few years later than you were Peche.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, everyone later than night. I figured that out
by this point. I got in just by literally right
down my name and address. That's all. That's that's all.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I got.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Half the battle, that half the bat.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
There you go, Pete. As we get ready for the
next round of the playoffs, we'll get those in earnest
here in a minute. But the Bold season day, we
saw Iowa and Kirk Farence with his uh masterful coaching
in the final minutes of the game, the latest great
example of we need to hire more people as gms
at college campuses, and we need a whole team of
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NASA scientists to navigate the final two minutes for coaches.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
It's weird. I don't know why. There's a bunch of
things that in all our weird role in of analytics.
I just I will never be convinced that it is
the right move to go for two in various spots,
except when you score a touchdown to go up seven
and you have a chance to go up two scores.
There's that, and there's the inability to kind of figure
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out just timeouts. We got in the pros too, right
last night, did we saw screw up with the Atlanta Falcons,
which also lost the game this year by unnecessarily going
for two. So there's coaches are just kind of weird creatures.
They just kind of go with, you know, what they
know and their habits, and now they're starting to let
they listen to the analytics types here and there for
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good and for bad. And you're right, you know, Iowa,
they should have called a couple of timeouts there, and
they should have figured it out, relaxed and figured out
how to get a first out. Instead, you got that
game over. Mazoo wins your Music City Bowl.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
We know that at some point, because football playoff, we're
going to go significant changes from what it is now.
Brett McMurphy saying today we could see some as soon
as next year. What's the first thing they need to
correct that they got wrong this year.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
The College Football Playoff Committee just has to do their
job better, like everyone's going to complain. In fact, the
first round games being lousy was actually necessary because you
can't you have to put in the eleven win Power
Conference teams. You had to kind of put in Indiana.
I don't think you should have put in that SVU,
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but okay, fine, because then everyone screams and yellow say
they should get their shot, and then they get blown
out by the better team and then we have closure.
You don't really need to see Alabama in there or
you know, an Ole Miss team or South Carolina. We
know what they should do. So the first round being
a blowoup all being blowout is fine. The problem was
the committee blew it by first like this whole idea
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is saying, well, we're not going to punish team that
lose their conference championship. Well why not? You know, that's
the whole point is you're supposed to take the whole
body of work, and that's what they're thing. What's from
the beginning. Secondly, they didn't give enough credit excuse me,
the conference champions by ranking SMU ahead of Clemson, which
is something it never used to do. So they screwed
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up their rankings, they screwed up their process, and they
screw up everything that they've done from twenty fourteen on
with this one ranking. And so the seating wasn't right
because they messed it up. If they get it right,
you still get blowouts. But you know what, let's see,
let's wait and see. Let's waiting to make you absolutely
sure that number three Boise States does get you know,
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blown out by Penn State and that Arizona State gets
rocked to before we just kind of assume that, oh gosh,
we can't put the seeding like this. Well, let's let's
just wait and see when these two teams get blowout,
blown out, and then we'll kind of go from there.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I did respect the gamesmanship of James Franklin. Hey, Jent
d this is one of the greatest seasons you've ever
seen by a guy that's one of college football uniform
and called himself a running back. And you better write
it down because if we lose, we lost to the
greatest of all time.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
We were beaten by the best beat.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Yeah, it's not gonna fly outside of Janty. You know
how many other guys on Boise State play for Penn State.
You know, it's it's it's a crazy time of bull
year when you do have such a disparity. And look,
there's no excuse. Now I don't like this whole idea. Well,
you know, James Franklin can't still can't win the big one.
We're not buying smu Well the college football playoffs. Do
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won a game? Like, give him a little bit of
a break. He's won seventy something percent of his games.
He's pretty good at this. But yeah, if they lose
the Boise State, you know, and look, Boise State is
the winning his program in the college football Playoff era
to not make the College football Playoff. I know, a
group of five all that, but still they've won more
games than anybody else without getting in. I Poly Wisconsin
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was number one among the Power of five teams for forever.
And let's let's just make sure that they that boys
you think doesn't come up with something because I don't
think they're going to win two games, but then they
could be Penn State if this works, but I don't
think they will.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
How much are we going to see off arch Manning
on New Year's Day in Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
I don't think enough. We shouldn't see any Actually, I
don't know why they're so desperate to get rid of
Quinn Hers already. You know, say thanks for everything. He's
he's an NFL quarterback, he's got, he's accurate, he's gotten
them here. And what's kind of screwed them up? What
almost screwed him up in the first run against Clemson,
it was they kept trying to shoehorn in arch Manning
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for specific plays when you just didn't need to do it.
And then I don't know if there's people yelling at
Sarkesi to get him in there already, or oh my god,
arch Manning might transfer or something. Well whatever, you're Texas,
you'll go get another quarterback, big deal, you know, But
Quinnywards is supposed to find his ankle is supposedly better, and yeah,
there might be a couple of packages here where arch
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Manning runs or something. We all know he's going to
be great. I don't know he's gonna be, you know,
at number one overall draft pick in a couple of
years and all that. But for right now, the way
you wears is playing. Yeah, just keep them going.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah to that end, I always entertained myself by finding
some old Texas footage and watching Mac Brown and the
assistants losing their minds when they had to figure out
the major Apple White Chris Sims.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Until Chris Sims, but yeah, until Chris Sims throwed nineteen
interceptions in the Big twelve championship game against Colorado and
then got replaced. But yeah, it's you've always and you're
gonna have that going forward. You have to make everyone happy.
But look, and that's kind of part of the problem.
This is a college football playoff. Now, this is you
don't mess around. You can't you can't do it. Just
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go keep trying to win these games because it's gonna
be hard for all these teams to keep advancing. I
mean again, Arizona State's pretty good. You know, Boyden think's
pretty good. I don't think either will win. But you
can't take any of them for granted.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Right now, you've get pretty close to saying it's the
bleeping Catalina wine mixer.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Nice, you were close, all right.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I think there's a lot of talk about Ohio State,
not as much talked about Oregon for the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Are you getting that sense at all?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
It's all about the redemption for the buck Eyes, how
well they played against Tennessee, the past interference on Jeremiah Smith,
the Will Howard slide. I'm not hearing a lot of
Oregon talk. Is that the sense that you're getting? And
is it maybe better for the Ducks that way?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Probably, because I mean you're right. I mean they're very, very,
very good. I mean they're the only in the fIF
team left. I mean they did actually beat Ohio State,
they did actually beat Penn State and put up a
ton of points on a really good Penn State defense.
You know, but the star power isn't there. I mean,
Dyn Gabriel is just he doesn't have the national buzz
and Ohio State's just better, they have more talent. When
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Ohio State plays like it did against Tennessee, that's it.
You know, that's forget it. You know, you want you
go out there and gets the you know, eight men
OUs thing. It's like not today, after you see that
first pitch coming and yet nope, forget it. But you know,
so I do think that well, I don't think Chets
gets out of its own head, and I think they
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finally did. I said it at the time, and I
got yelled at and all that the loss of Michigan
was probably the best thing that could happen to them.
They got the extra week off, they got a little healthier,
and man, the team that came out of that tunnel,
that was a different attitude team, like, all right, the
worst thing in the world happened to us, and we're
still here and we have our red uniforms and they
just looked amazing. Again, said to see, so you're right,
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there's a long way a way of saying, yeah, no
one's talking about Oregon, but if you're if we look
back and say, you know, let them cry for the
national championship on New Year's Days, probably not wrong.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
But to follow with that, you know, with Ohio State, right,
the narrative all along is I mean, Ryan Day it's
one of the few coaches folks can pick out of
a lineup because all that's been written, taking the James Franklin,
he can't beat a good team just on steroids. To
this point to where even if it is, as so
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many people have termed it, the lunatic fringe are the
only people that would legitimately want Ryan Day out, it
makes for a good story.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Absolutely, I mean, yeah, he maybe can't can't be Michigan lately,
but he's won maybe three percent of his games, and
you know, find the coaches and the coaches, we can
do that. But yeah, you're right. It's it's just because again,
the two best teams in the college in college football,
Ohio State in Georgia. It just depends on whether or
not they play like it. They have the most NFL guys,
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they're the most loaded, they have the most money, they
have the most depth, and that kind of puts the
pressure on them to be the stars and stars where
after all this, after all the college football playoffs stuff
and all the ring are we gonna be really shocked
when it's Ohio States versus Georgia for the national championship? No?
You know, so that's because it's unfortunately, this is not
going to be like the NCAA tournament and kind of
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we just kind of talk before but before we're not
gonna have a Cinderella team. We're not gonna have You
can't just get hot them three. You can't just have
the right picture. You can't have a goalie stand in
their head. It's not like that's not how college football works.
You might have one upset. You're not gonna get TCU
beating Michigan and Georgia like we you know, like a
couple of years ago, the thoughts some people thought we
were going to get, So you're gonna get the disparity
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of talent is just going to come through, just screamingly
loud and clear. And the kind of what this college
football Playoff shows is just what a big gap there
is before the teams that have all the money and
talent and the teams that don't.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Okay, So then where does that upset happen? If it
does in the quarterfinals.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Notre Dame George isn't an upset, right, because that's probably
the one that that's probably the closest nothing. You know,
Oregon beating Ohio State really wouldn't be an upset or
anything like this, I guess because it's Texas and we
know I keep saying they're gonna blow it at some point.
So if not, now it's the next round. I don't
think boys, I mean, give you give Penn State ten
(28:00):
days to get ready. They're right, they're just gonna stop too.
They're just getting Actually, jet he's not beating us now.
It doesn't mean that bois I think doesn't have enough
of passing me via bye. But this is a this
is a talented team full of NFL guys too. I
don't think Boise State can get this done. But if
as in the state, everything kind of clicks and again
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Texas goes Texas, Yeah, that might be where the one
kind of thing that could happen could happen.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Twelve and a half or thirteen the number there Arizona State,
Texas made certainly Levitt going out of his way to
put up some bulletin board material. Hey, say my name,
say my name, I talk to hear about viewers and
and Manning and all these other guys. I'm the best.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
I kind of yeah, in this you can't really go
by too much in this shockingly good Bull season so
far as there's so many opt outs. But what we're
kind of seeing a little bit here is, you know,
outside of a you know, cam Ward sitting out the
second half, weg so I always stated it's big twelve
was not very good, and we kind of well kind
of knew this. We knew the ACC wasn't very good.
(29:04):
That's proven out. But you know, Colorado getting torched, and
you know, the big twelve so far has been okay
in Arizona State. Winning the Big twelve championship is good.
But if Texas just doesn't screw this thing up, they
should be just fined.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Pete Futech with US College Footballnews dot com, where you
follow him at Pete Futech. He'll join us later on
in the week as we recap what goes on over
the next two nights. Pete, enjoy the festivities. I can't
wait to read all the reviews and follow your tweets
as you live and die with each possession.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Oh god, I do, don't. I just probably need to
unplug between this and fantasy football. I'm football down. I
said it, I'm footballed out.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You got one more mod, buddy, Yeah, let's actually the
Bears are done. You don't have to worry about that anymore,
but a little little less in terms of you know,
the herd on the ticker, So you got a couple
more days here to roll through. You should put a
live camera up to as well. Let's let's watch your video.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Form real entertaining me drinking coffee all day long, sitting
in front of computers and screen.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, er, no, no, no, But if you give us the
verbal accompaniment like you do when you visit us. Mean, look,
we're sarcastic to the core. You and Smith. Dan's got like, well,
we all have that. So I think it would be
you know, Mystery Science Theater three thousand for college football.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
And the people who get that reference, who will be
watching me drink coffee and make a little wise cracks.
That would be an interesting group.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
It's a billion dollar industry.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
That would be the salary B crowd is what we're
talking about here.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
There you go at Pete feu Tech again where you
find it.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Pete.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Appreciate you joining us. Enjoy the games. We'll talk to
you later a week. You guys, be good man. All right,
Dan byer in for Jason Smith on my Carmen as
we come to you from the diirac dot com Fox
Sports Radio studios. We'll talk about the opt out opt
in records, what does it all mean? But first it's
Steve Desager. He's got what's going on in our large
(31:03):
sporting world. The Champ, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Champ is here, Detroit Lions.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
We're at San Francisco tonight. Did you know the Niners
averaged eight yards per play in this game? And did
not win forty to thirty four Detroit the final as
Jake Moody had his problems again as San Francisco kicker.
Missed a fifty one yard field goal attempt late in
the first half, missed a fifty eight yard or early
fourth quarter, missed a late extra point try. Niners lost
(31:34):
by six. They were up by eight at the half.
We brought this up earlier in the show. Kyle Shanahan,
let's just say he's familiar with blowing leads of eight
points or so and losing games. In fact, AP updates
the stat Can you name a coach in the last
decade that has a worse winning percentage than Kyle Shanahan
and games where they're up eight? Actually, Matt Naggy and
(31:57):
Frank Raig, that's pretty much the list. Detroit beat San
Francisco by six. The Niners record now six and ten.
Brock Purty four total touchdowns but two second half interceptions.
He had three hundred and seventy seven yards passing. The
Detroit Lions have finished undefeated on the road this year,
eight to no. They're fourteen and two overall, and the
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Lions will play the regular season finale this Sunday night,
hosting the Vikings to decide the NFC North and the
number one seed in the NFC.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
By the way, the Jets are due to.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Interview Ron Rivera this week for their head coach opening,
and Rex Ryan expects to interview there. College Football's Music
City Bowl at nineteenth rank, Missouri down ten to Iowa
late third quarter come back to win twenty seven to
twenty four. Brady Cook two touchdown passes. Mazoo got two
field goals in the fourth quarter from fifty one and
fifty six yards. Five bowl games tomorrow, including that one
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to start the college football Playoff in the NBA. Among
the seven games tonight, Denver won at Utah one thirty
two to one twenty one. Nicolo Jokich not just a
triple double. He had thirty six points, twenty two rebounds,
and eleven assists, and teammate Russell Westbrook had a triple
double with no turnovers. Clippers sent New Orleans to a
(33:11):
tenth straight loss Chicago one in overtime at Charlotte. Hornets
have lost eight straight. Knicks won their eighth in a row.
That was at Washington. MAVs are leading mid third quarter
at Sacramento, sixty eight, sixty four.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Back to you, Thanks so much, Dave the champ as
he revels in that for the duration of the evening,
we'll continue here. He's Dan byer in for Jason Smith.
I'm Mike Harmer. I'm jealous of him because he gets
to know. I mean, I don't know the guy he
beat is the problem, because if it was someone around
these hallways, we could go full on. I'm the Wiz,
get him a crown and a cape and he get Dorman.
(33:44):
I don't know who that guy is.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
There is the There is the dreaded stat correction. So
tomorrow it will be finalized. So the unofficial champ right now.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I also got Dennis O'Hara into the show, so I
rule work. Hey, check out his IMDb if he's in it.
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Maybe he plays in Week eighteen. Maybe he doesn't. We'll
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Speaker 2 (34:26):
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Speaker 3 (35:07):
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you get your podcasts. You'll see the show posted by
Shay right after we get off the air. I thank
him in advance Team Team. It's good to be back.
A couple of days off. Youn't get out of sorts.
Don't know what to do with yourself. You're yelling at
the television like you're doing a segment and instead now
(35:28):
I'm back in the studio with you here. Dan, we
talked about brock Purty and you know whether he should
have done a Queen's Wave to the forty nine or
faithful tonight and then not played Bomb went through most
of the game and then got hurt. So I'm gonna
go on a limit, say for week eighteen against Arizona.
It's operations shut down, all right, and we'll see Josh
Dobbs there. You've already heard it, Sean McDermott, everything going
(35:52):
on in Buffalo because he's got a consecutive game street going.
Josh Allen will start, he's gonna shake everybody's hands, he's
gonna wave to the crowd, and he's gonna walk away.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I have zero problem with that, because if the game
was meant to be something Josh Allen would play, you're
just not risking it.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
This isn't this isn't cheapening.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
You know a record to continue it just to throw
a guy out there and then replace him because you
want to see the younger guy. Josh Allen would play
the whole game if there was something to play for.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Look at you getting dragging the giants and that whole
Eli Manning, Jo Smith.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yes, you know, it goes even goes back to cam
Ward a little bit. You know, there's you know, whether
people like the record or you know, didn't like the records.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
This is another you know, possible possible record for Josh
Allen at some.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Point that'll continue at least, you know, through next season
or until next season.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, And either way, everybody gets up and goes to work,
They get their kids up and off to school as
they need to, and you go with many different motivations. Yes,
and you go through your day interacting with your colleagues
with many different motivations.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Well, heck, tomorrow's a half day for a lot of workplaces.
So yeah, that's all. It is just gonna be a
half day for Josh.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Operation shutdown, absolutely, all right. So Sakuon Barkley three hundred
and forty five carries two thousand and five yards. That
gives you a nice robust five point eight yards per carry.
He is one hundred yards away from surpassing Eric Dickerson,
who made it known on' a Friend of the Show.
Helped make the show in its infancy in his battles
(37:23):
with the Rams and Field passes and Disneyland passes, and
his dislike and distrust of Jeff Fisher and their battles
and squabbles over petty stuff. So I'm still waiting for
my Super Bowl ring because we were part of what
happened to really build up to Jeff Fisher getting bounced
(37:43):
in Sean McVay showing up. You're welcome Rams fans anyway,
he made it pretty clear it's like, well, let's caveat
it out because you know, games played and all these
other things, which is still to me in this day
and age with a guy that had injury history that
Saquon has but running getting through a full seventeen games slate, Hell,
you should get an award just.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
For that, right, especially with the number of touches that
we're at.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Well, considering for what we've seen from Sakuon Barkley when
we think of him as someone who's injury prone, he's
been pretty available for his teams over the last three seasons,
so that kno gotten him where he missed, you know,
almost an entire year and would miss certain games. For
the most part, he's been there for his team over
the last three.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Seasons, three hundred and seventy eight touches thus far. But
right now he's thirty four fewer rushing attempts than Dickerson
in his record setting year, Dickerson averaging five point six
yards per carry. But you get the extra game, and look,
the rules of engagement change, records get broken, schedules change.
(38:50):
I don't think I've heard many people crying about single
season home run records or any of those things. And
baseball was, you know, the sanctity of the game.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Well, I'll say this, and I asked this to my
partner on Sunday, Carrie Rhoades, the former All Pro safety
for the Jets and Cardinals, And I asked him if
he thinks that running the football now is easier or
more difficult than it was, say, when Eric Dickerson broke
the record, and Mike, I think that it's a lot
easier right now to run the football. We don't see
teams run the football a lot because it's such a
(39:20):
quarterback dominated league, but defenses because of that, defenses aren't
built to stop the run. So if you actually do
hang your hat on running the football, like some of
these teams do, think it's I think it's easier to
run now than it was when Eric Dickerson or Barry
Sanders or Emmitt Smith were playing. I just think that
those defenses back then were actually built to stop the run,
(39:44):
and now I think you have an advantage if you
just wanted to do that.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah, I mean we had the outliers of guys like
Marino and Kelly firing it around. But outside of that,
still three yards in a cloud of dust you and
I grew up on, and certainly me and Chicago we've
never gotten away from it. Insert punched in a rim
shot or whatever you want to do there. But the
idea of being that you're seeing the successive teams that
(40:08):
have reverted back to that style take nothing away from
the passing acumen and what Lamar Jackson's done with his numbers.
It's predicated on Derrick Henry bludgeoning people with great regularity,
and especially the second half of games. All of a sudden,
you're coming down as a linebacker and he's beating you
up a bunch. Not to mention the business decisions on
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the corner, no chance. So we saw it with San
Francisco when McCaffrey was healthy. What they were able to do.
Elijah Mitchell, whoever else substituted. It was a machine. Go
back to the Denver days of Shanahan the Elder and
everybody was a thousand yard Russher. But it was more
the blocking scheme that was advanced. But you know, we
(40:53):
don't have the same defensive interior of four hundred pound
guys sitting squat in the line. No, you've got to
be able to be a dancing bear on the offensive
line and on the defensive front. You got to be
fast enough to chase these guys down.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeah, we see teams line up with two linemen.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
It's crazy as it is, like guys, the two guys
in the stance, you know, on a four point stance,
of three point stance on the want of scrimmage on defense.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
It was not like that back in the day.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Now, so I'll get the credit for being able to
stay healthy through it, but I agree with you, different animal,
different game. It's a different sport. It's like watching the
NBA now that everybody laments so much. Look at what
it used to be. Same thing. NFL. It evolves, it changes.
Get over it as we continue here, Fox Sports Radio, Hey,
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