September 5, 2025 • 35 mins
Jason and Mike give their picks for who they believe will be getting to the AFC and NFC conference championship games. The guys react to news of Bill Belichick's reign in North Carolina getting even messier. Plus, did Dak spit first?!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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tire buying should be well. Still in a weather delay,
Cowboys and the Eagles. Eagles will be taking over with
four forty four to go in the third quarter. Following
Miles Sanders fumble, Dak R. Scott makes a touchdown saving tackle.
That was the last play we saw as a weather
delay has creeped in lightning in the area. That probably
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came out of Jerry Jones's hands. When he saw Miles
Sanders fumble. Ah uh, So we're probably about a half
hour away right now. That's what Adam Schefter is reporting
from the game resuming, So it could be another half
hour until we get the rest of this game tonight
between the Cowboys and the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Now, while they're killing time, we did get a great
update from around the Cowboys locker room where you have
a bunch of cold Cuts. Trevon Diggs came out to say, hey,
we need some food back the cold cuts man. So
the old Cuts came back with a giant cart. I
don't know if he was going to stand in line
and try to use his debit card to buy a
bunch of stuff, I don't know, but they got a
cart back, and they added they also have a bunch
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of uncrustables, which I've come to find over the last
year is really I think a market that is propped
up by NFL teams.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh okay, I thought you were gonna say like because
Micah Parson's mom when she thought he was going to
be playing like cut him up for everybody, specially on
across the Balls. But now not. Now she showed she
can do that in Green Bay now she can do that. Yeah,
but she's still there to support the old friends. So
you know, funny thing before you get too because we're
gonna give you our AFC and NFC Championship game picks
(02:16):
coming up in a couple of minutes. We do it
every year, gets more teams in. We picked the teams
that would be vying to go to the Super Bowl.
But uh, you know it's funny seeing Dak Prescott make
that tackle. Uh that really stopped a touchdown. And you
know we kind of joked around about Jerry Jones was Outum,
I'll play Dack both ways. If Travis Hunter can do
it and then not gonna have Dak do it. Why
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I'm paying him enough, why not go do it? Look
he can stop the run. And I immediately thought back
to it. This, this is a great story. So sophomore
year of high school, we're playing a team that we're killing. Right.
It was my big it was my big uh stat
highlight because I had an interception in that game. I
was so excited, right and got it and I fell
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jumping to get the ball, all right, honest, swear to god,
I would have had to pick six, but I fell jump.
I had jumped to get the ball and I couldn't
get my balance and I was like, oh man, And
I remember our line at Scott McMillan said, Jason, I
had you, man, we had you alway done school, I know,
but I had to jump, but I didn't come down
with the ball. But I had the interceptions. You would
have had.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The opportunity about that time was when high stepping really
came in. Oh yeah, yeahant Merton Hanks and Deon Sanders,
you might have had, you know, your choice of celebration
into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Merton Hanks by a neck. So we're winning this game
and it's twenty seven nothing in the second half, and
my best friend was a quarterback, and I thought I
was gonna be the quarterback. When the ball was really big,
I'm like, I can't throw that ball. And my friend
was like, yeah, I could throw it, and he had
a great arm. So he's a quarterback. I'm like, unbelievable. Man,
he was never a quarterback. So he's a quarterback. And
we're winning twenty seven nothing, and now you know, the
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third quarter starts in the game, the game's over and
our coach, this is JV and our coach decides to
put him in at right guard on the offensive line,
and he puts him in because he wants to show everybody, Hey,
you know cha's tough. For Chapman's tough, he shows it.
So he puts them in and we're like, wow, carry's
going to play line Wow, and and and our coach
just stands there like he's got a big smile face going.
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You know, Chapman used to play guard in the boys
leagueuse right, he was. He was, you know, we play
linebacker and running back in guard. He played guard the
boys league. That's how tough he is. And the coach
was like, yeah, eh, I'm putting, you know, showing you
how tough it is, how tough our quarterback is. Thirty
seconds later, after one play, our varsity coach comes streaming
on the sideline and he goes, what the blank are
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you doing putting your quarterback and right guard? Get him
out of the game, and our cut and the coach
just goes turns and goes, all right, let's get let's
get Chapman out. Let's get chat go going, go going, going,
uh uh go going going for Chapman, going for him.
He just cut it. He's one because he knows. Somebody said, hey, uh, coach,
is that is that the quarterback playing guard? What what?
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Because he's wearing number twelve? Sure he's in it, going well,
that was the best What the hell are you doing?
Get him out of that? He was having fun. He
was a kid, all right, all right, all right, And
he played a couple of snaps like like he play.
I'm like, oh my goodness, he actually played a couple
Is that now? I don't know, you know, at that
point in the game, do they understand it's the quarterback
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playing line. Are they going to take a shot because
we're killing them and everything? But he plays like okay,
and he came off the field, was like, wow, that
was okay, all right, I can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, but if he was able to handle himself, he
was able to handle himself.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, sure, sure, sure for a couple of plays. Yeah yeah, yeah,
But you know, but I don't think you.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Guys gonna at that age. I mean, look I had
at the botto. Well but that's the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean, what are you doing out of the
As I started to say that, it's.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like, God, they're not gonna like no, I remember what
happened to me in grade school. So yeah, it was
even even earlier.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Get the guy out. That was the best good time.
So again, again we're probably a little bit less than
a half hour away from Cowboys Eagles resuming. Michael Jordan
at the game.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh yeah, he's got a better game than he got
on Monday and Monday night.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Certainly closer, that's for sure. You know, the game I
went to on Monday was really not this close. I
just want to tell you, was he still there in
the fourth quarter? I don't remember any crowd shots you see.
Is he at this game with Jordan Hudson? Oh woa?
Whoa wow? So again, a little bit less than a
half hour away from resumption of this game, which we'll
get to. But perfect time now for Mike and I
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to do this because I was thinking about the like,
how we got to get this in tonight because the
season starts tonight. Get picked, and this is a perfect
spot for us to give you our AFC and NFC
Championship game picks. I love doing this every year, a
little different than the Super Bowl. Four teams in right
kind of fun. Since we're seeing an NFC game tonight,
we'll start with the NFC Okay, it is a Super
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Bowl or bust year for this team because their quarterback
has to get paid, their star wide receiver has to
get paid. They understand the sense of urgency. I don't
care that they lost their coordinators. This is a team
that knows what they have this season to accomplish. And
I love the fact that Jamis and Williams He's gonna
take a big leap because he wants to get paid
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after this year too. He's gonna break out. The Lions
will be unstoppable. It is their last chance before this
current era is over. They are way too talented to
not be there. They get there this year. Jamier Gibbs
and right now, I'll tell you right he'll be the
best running back in the NFL this year with way
less carries than than Saquon Barkley is. Their offense is
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so much better than anything anybody else has. You'll get
Aiden Hutchinson back. I'd be stunned if the Lions aren't
in the Super Bowl, but I'll put them in the
NFC Championship game right now. I've been on them for
three years. I'll stick them all the way to the
end of this era. Lions in the NFC Title game.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You don't like me on the AFC side with Come on, man,
get over the huff. You know this is a team
I really want to to pick, but all and I
had it written down, and then all of a sudden
we get the injury report of hey, there's a calf
injury for a certain running backup in the Bear.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh a calf injury. You saying, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Why why did they trade for that other guy from washingtonf.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Injuries are yeah, it's easy, No, that's fine. So based
on schedule and everything else, you get a little bit excitable,
but it's all contingent on all number twenty two getting
out there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You look at the forty nine ers who are nineteen
to one for Super Bowl odds, perty got paid, You
look at depth balance, all of those things, A favorable schedule,
so the road is open. But I look at Christian McCaffrey,
I go, how do I trust you? You're already breaking
my heart on a Thursday before the season even starts,
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leaving me all nervous. They will be playing the Los
Angeles Rams, WHOA in the Stafford Bowl, which will make
everything come full circle from the trade that really jumpstarted
both of these teams runs to where they are right now.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Now, I asked the obvious question, will Matthew Stafford and
his back be available to play in said games?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, I'm glad you said that, because on I don't
think it matters. Wow, okay, all right, now we're talking Casey.
You know what that means. Matthew Stafford if he's gets
dinged up, if he's hurt. This offense is made to
work with basically anyone you've seen anyone they have run
the football, come in and run the football well right,
whether it was Acres or Kyron Williams, doesn't matter catching
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the football, whether it's Cooper Cup or Pooka Nakua. And
now you have DeVante Adams added. The Rams have done
such a great job of adding talent, adding mercurial talent,
drafting well. But this is a system where, yes, Matthew
Stafford one of the biggest clutch quarterbacks in the game,
your favorite quarterbacks, favorite quarterback, But if Jimmy Garoppolo plays,
the offense will be just fine. And this is a
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RAMS team is gonna win a division that's not gonna
be as great as people think it's gonna be. Rams
and the Lions the Stafford Bowl to go to the
Super Bowl. Take that.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know, I love me some Jimmy g So I'm
all over there. Look, I've got this Eagles squad. It's
very tough to knock them off because we look at
the division. I don't think that Jalen Carter will be
a dope again after this. We'll see if he gets
any kind of suspension after the spitting incident that started
off our twenty twenty five campaign. But you've got a
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team with great depth on both side defensive tackle maybe
a little bit. And it's funny because you saw how
easily Dallas goes down the field.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's like, well, you know you always script these.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
But no, no, this was the Quentin Tarantino rewrite because
you had a guy getting thrown out for spitting and
now all of a sudden, that whole offensive set is
something different and it takes a couple of possessions to
get right. We'll see if that how it holds up
here once we resume play here in Week one. But
I like the Eagles too much and the depth and
what Jalen hurts and that offensive structure gives.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So there's our NFC Championship game picks. What about the AFC. Okay,
here's where I'm getting a little loose. Oh look at
the little it's temporaneous here, right. It's easy to pick
the Bills, But I'll tell you the Bills maybe in
for little bit of a regression, maybe a little bit
easy to pick the Ravens. However, I've seen the Ravens.
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I've seen that movie many times and it ends the
same way we have yes with Lamar Jackson turning the
football over in the playoffs and they lose. Okay, the
Bengals are a very trendy pick. Health is always a
big thing with the Bengals. That lack of defense might
coming back to get you in some boy. I am
gonna go with something that we haven't seen in the
NFL since twenty twenty two. Two teams from the same
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division wow in the AFC Championship game. Neither of these
teams are the Chiefs. Give me the Broncos and the Chargers.
WOWFC Championship game. Wonder what kind of odds you get
on that part. It's hard to not love Denver. Their
roster is phenomenal. Watching their second and third stringers dominate
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in the preseason is something. They are always well prepared.
They have no weaknesses. Sean Payton is able to now
this is his third year. He's got the team he wants.
He's got the players he wants. He excited about fourth
round picks, and he says Pat Bryant's the next Michael Thomas.
But Bo Nix is terrific. He was right when he
said he's the guy I wanted. Their defense is good,
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they have playmakers all over the field. Do not sleep
on the Broncos. I get that they're starting to get
a little trendy, but they are a terrific team and
I see nothing but great things for the Broncos. The
Chargers man look out for Jim Harboy year two again,
year two. Now, he's got the talent he wants in
the place he wants. He's got a sledgehammer running game.
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He trusts Justin Herbert more than he did probably at
this point last year. Lad McConkie is fantastic. Quenton Johnston
had a big leap from last year to this year. Right,
you brought Keenan Allen back, You'll be able to throw
the football when you have to. Justin Herbert will show
just how remind everybody just how good he is and
that defense. People forget it's one of the top five
defenses in the NFL, So give me. I know it's
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tough to see two out out of the same division,
but we saw it a couple of years ago Broncos
Chargers AFC Championship Game.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I just did an odds estimate based on well the
Action Network website the bet that he proposes for the
AFC title game seven and eighty three to one.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
People, Oh, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Twenty seven to one both teams to win the Super Bowl.
So I mean that's for one of the you know
that that team to finish the job. But I mean,
that's kind of insane. But we look at the AFC.
I've got the Chiefs, right, you had your opportunity to
get him, like the chalk to a degree that the
fourth favorite to win the Super Bowl. But you're looking
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at a squad that comes back where she Rice misses
his time due to suspense. You've got depth at wide receiver.
Patrick Mahomes doesn't need to put up pinball numbers, although
I think he will at points. Travis Kelcey had ninety
seven yard receptions last year and everybody hated him. Yeah,
like I know, he had a bad Super Bowl, plenty
of plenty of plays were just like, that's not there. Well,
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he wasn't on tour with Taylor Swift this time around,
hanging around Europe drinking beer. Uh and and they got
some calories off for dancing. But otherwise it was the
struggle Bush as we look at that. But so I
got the Chiefs on one side of it, when we
look at the other. You mentioned, you know, Buffalo and Baltimore.
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It's it's hard to go away from those two. I
love the Denver pick. That is highly gutsy, no question
about it. Uh, cycle it all down. I'm a glutton
for punishment. McDermott and the Bills because of the easy
walk through the division. Yeah, it's it still should be
so it should still be an easy path. But then
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it becomes they all right, how do you get over that?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's the thing for me with the Bills is like,
I think during the regular season, because the division is
not great, they'll be able to mask some of their difficulties. Look,
their defensive backfield is not terrible again, and it's not
like they got so good in the offseason. It's just
everybody else in the division is really starting over. So
once you'll they'll get there. I'm not. But once you
get to the playoff okay, which.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Is why I I can pick them to get to
this game, sure, but not to get past it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So the dragon waits for them and vanquishes them again.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So there it is. There are are official AFC and
NFC Championship game picks. Twitter at how about Afresca? Twitter
at Swollen Dome Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, here you go.
Who are we playing for? All the marbles later on
this year? Update Right now from Monday night football teams
are getting back on the field right now. They are
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going to start warming up sometime in the next couple
of minutes. Play a schedule to resume shortly after eleven
thirty East Coast time, so in about fifteen or so
minutes from now. Again, teams just getting out of the
field now to start warming up. That is when we
plan to resume this game. Watching Jalen Hurts is starting
to stretch right now, so the warm up period has started.
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About fifteen minutes from now. We are going to get
the rest of this football game.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, it was intermission you got your snack, right. I mean, look,
we talk a lot about the complaints, Uh what's gonna
happen with with red zone and how it's gonna be covered,
and we got the you're gonna get four you know,
very short breaks of.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Course of those hours, so all yeah, shat app But
here you go.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You got an extended forty five minutes. You could have
walked the dog, taken a nap.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Made a couple of sandwiches, made a sandwich eating it,
made another sandwich about that too, and dessert wonderful like
all of those things you could have pulled off, or
a third sandwich, you know, try I like that, especially
if you got the mini sliders going then then you
don't feel so bad. So we'll have a resumption of
this game coming up in a few minutes. But straight ahead,
another football story. What famous head coach is continuing to
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play petty trolling games and he's making his team suffer
for it? That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
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Speaker 1 (17:29):
Look, I'm gonna do things my way, and my way
is terrible. You waited that long just to play that. Yes,
they've been in a weather delay for lightning for the
past forty ish minutes, but both teams are on the field.
They're finishing warmups again. We're probably a little bit less
than ten minutes away from this game resuming four forty
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four to go in the third quarter. Eagles will be
taking over following a disastrous Miles Sanders fumble that Cowboys
aren't Look, we're on the verge of going in taking
the lead instead. Eagles have the football now their own
seventeen yard line again. Will start this game coming up
in about ten minutes or so. A couple of things
with it really quick though, Bears Twitter having their fun,
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Hello darkness, my old friend, the pictures of Eber Flush
staring down at his play sheet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So that and and a lot of complaints, including gard
guy Jason Cole going, that's that was what you did
for the delay? You just did your halftime show again.
How do they come out of the second half? Okay,
how do they come out after a delay? Yeah, it's
too bad.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
They don't have like radio people or people like us
that could say, hey, we got a delay for forty minutes,
forty minutes, Come on, we do four hours a night,
forty minutes. That's fine, Yeah, do that. Dance it out
of our heads. I'll never forget that. When when I
first started doing TV and I was doing like first
take and stuff for ESPN and all of that, and
and they said, okay, what do you want to make appointment?
I said, yeah, I'm gonna do this, and they go, okay,
so we're gonna give you, we'll we'll well, you know,
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we're gonna you know how much time do you need
to go? How much time do I need? Like, yeah,
to prepare I go? I do I do four hours
a night. Just to let me know, let me know.
You need me in five minutes and I'll be in.
I'm ready. Let me know, get me in five minutes.
Of the first times, like we've been doing this show, welcome,
welcome in if you're if you're new to what we
do here at Fox Sport Trader, Jason'm not doing this
show now you're eleven. I just remember like the first
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time you took a vacation and I had some folks
come in who evidently the concept of a four hour
show was just freaking them out. It's like you really
could do four like this is really pretty easy. How
much How much time you need to get your take ready?
We need to get my How long do you have
to talk? Well, like a minute and a half minute
and a half, Yeah, just let me know, give me
a five minute warning, let me know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Or Frostburg being out one time and our buddy Rob Gara,
we love you, Bob Garrett, and he goes, well, what
are you gonna say? When Jayson says that I'll go,
you sure, that's what he's gonna say when we go
on there, that's.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I I don't know what he's actually gonna say. Once
he starts and the red lights on, sure, so we'll
just go we can do this. Uh So again, we're
probably about five minutes away, and they just keep showing
the Jalen Carter spitting on Dak Prescott play, uh from
the from.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
The early part of the game.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, you know, And and it's it's kind of weird
videoing viral.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah you know, And it's kind of weird when they
show the the the the other angle of it. It
almost you know, it's hard to see what Dak says.
But I really I can't believe that Dak Prescott is
gonna say something that is gonna you know, that's gonna
really well, I had no choice because he said something
that's fighting words, you know, or something like that. Like this,
Dak Prescott, he's not gonna whatever. He's gone. He's saying
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a lot of stuff, but that's that's not gonna happen.
I mean, come on, I mean, the guy's wearing wrist
bands and tribute to his mom. I mean, happy birthday.
I still remember his rookie year when he when he
when he drank the water and he threw the paper
cup and he missed the picked up threw it away, Like,
I don't think Dak Prescott's doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And literally did you see him going over to the
garbage can putting something right as you said that, they
cut away to Dak doing that. Yeah, Dak's mom would
have been her birthday on the fourth, So paying tributor.
I don't imagine he's starting the game trying to not
that you're not trying to get into Jalen Carter's head,
but not something that inflammatory to where you get.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Such a disgusting act there. You got tribute to Joe
buck Now elsewhere in football and I can say NFL
cod because anything that involves Bill Belichick it kind of
cuts through. I want to harken you back to Monday
Night when we said Bill Belichick and his refusal to
put out a death chart and not allowing scouts to
have access to his team shows me he doesn't get
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college football and he will fail because he is not
looking out for his players. If you are starting for
North Carolina, you have an NFL future, right If you
are starting for one of the big Power five schools,
there's thirty two teams drafting seven rounds, undrafted free agents.
Everybody who is starting for a big Power five school
they have NFL dreams, And all you're doing is making
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it more difficult for your players to get noticed. Because
the scouts don't know who anybody is there. You restrict
access to them, they can't really do their research on it.
This is all to help the kids. But Bill Belichick
wants to play some kind of crazy, trolling, petty mind
games because he always did it in the NFL. No,
I'm not gonna help the media. Not gonna do this.
It's a competitive disadvantage, which it's not. Come on, Bill,
(22:14):
if it was a competitive disadvantage, you might have had
a better game on Monday than losing fifty six to nothing.
So then also if it was someone else would have
done it. Yeah. Yeah, college football has been played for
a long time. This is who he is, right, and
he is he is. He is thumbing his nose at
his kids that he is supposed to protect and get
them ready for the next level and the next what's next?
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And that's the NFL for for some of these guys, right,
Not that the not that the the scouts can't find
other ways to look at them play, not that they
can't get taped, but why are you making it more difficult.
That's what this is about. Because sorry, Bill, Yes, your
number one job is to win football games, but you
want kids who want to come there, want to play
for you. This is part of the process. Man. You
can't just say, oh, I'm gonna come in and we're
gonna re We're gonna rewrite college football in the year.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Kids still want to know that you have their back
and you're gonna help them get where they want to go.
So that was Monday night. What do we find out today?
Bill Belichick has banned the Patriots staff from accessing the
Tar Heels program. ESPN called for comment, and North Carolina
football GM Michael Lombardi said good luck and hung up
the phone. North Carolina declined comment on this. Again, Belichick
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doesn't get it, and he's going to fail. Now. I'm
actively rooting for him to fail because all this is
doing is helping is not helping his players. The Patriot's
gonna draft guys. They want to know what you think, right,
I'm sorry you don't like the Patriots. I'm sorry about that.
But your responsibility is to the kids. So now here's
a team where the scouts are not going to know
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anything about them because you're not giving them access. Right,
and scouts have talked about this, and while some teams
have some sort of restrictive access the quote zero access,
which appears three times on UNC's website, scouts are saying,
can't think of another school with a statement of zero access, right,
these are these all. Can't think of another school that
does something like this. All he's doing is hurting the players.
(24:05):
I'm sorry you hate the Patriots. It's team in the
NFL and his team that could wind up taking some
of your guys. Also, because the Patriots scouts trust you
if you put in a good word for one of
their players. Hey, you know what, Bill likes this guy? Okay, Right.
I don't think there's any part of the Patriots saying
we don't respect Bill Belichick's football mind and evaluation of players. Right.
I don't think that's the case. I think we should
see the players. But no, all he's doing because he
(24:26):
wants to play these petty games against the Patriots and
Bob Kraft, who pushed him out when he went when
Bob went when Bill Belichick's way didn't go well, which,
oh by the way, Bill, that's on you. You decided to
make the groceries. He made a horrible meal. So this
is an again he doesn't get it, and he's going
to fail. And now I'm at the point where I
want him to fail because he's not looking out for
(24:46):
the kids. Right. You are, in essence, when you coach
college football, you are still a youth coach in which yes,
but winning is the most important absolutely, But you can
win and take care of your kids at the same
time because it's about keeping the program going. It's not
the NFL where we'll just take new guys in the
draft every year. We don't want a guy in free agency,
we let him go. We'll sign another guy. This is
where you want people to come to the school and say, hey,
(25:07):
I want to go play for that guy. Right, what
do you I guarantee you right now in in recruiting
process if it's that well, I visited North Carolina, I
visited Syracuse, visited Duke, I visited Wake Forest. Hey, North Carolina,
they're not gonna let you talk to scouts, right, And
I know you want to go to the NFL because
you're a four star recruit, you're a three star recruit.
You want to go to the NFL. You're not gonna
get that at North Carolina. Right, forget about all the
other crazy stuff that goes on behind closed doors. Is
(25:28):
Nick Saban gonna retire? Is he gonna be there? I
hope he can beat the you know, the physical ailment
that he has, not that crazy stuff that said, this
is like garden variety. Hey, you know, you see the
same thing I do. You're not gonna get to the
same number of scouts. We'll make sure we get you seen.
Coaches all for this. He all for wants to see
his guys succeed and go on elsewhere and move on
to the NFL. It's a great thing for you, it's
(25:50):
a great thing for him, great thing for the program.
How many kids are gonna go? Yeah, Blake, North Carolina?
I mean I'm not going there, Like really, he doesn't
get it. And again, now at the point where I'm
rooting against him, well, you already have.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
The negative recruiting to that point about age, right, and
whether he'd lost his fastball. You're further removed from the
glory days of the last Patriots run with Brady before
he goes to Tampa, and certainly anybody that's paying attention,
both the families of players and the players themselves, they
now remember Tom Brady as a member of the Bucketeers,
(26:22):
right because he's gone. So now you get to this.
The other parts from this athletic report, which I thought
were really interesting, is they were restricting other scouts to
the first three periods of practice. Now, the average practice,
they say, ranges twenty to twenty eight periods. Right, here's
the whistle, All right, next setup go whatever three periods
(26:46):
of practice, one of which was stretching, so literally.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It was a are you stretching? Can you touch your
toes a little easier today than he did yesterday? Good
for you.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's about as much depth as they're able to get.
The other is they've got this guy, a player personnel
prolaison Frenzy Jordan. He's the only guy that can be
contacted with questions about prospects. In other words, don't call me,
don't call my coaching staff. So add it all up
and I get it. We've gone into the bastardization of it,
(27:18):
of the amateurism.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
And look, if we're honest with ourselves.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That was long gone with the billions and billions of
dollars that have been funneled into the system for many,
many years, just a matter of who is getting fat
and rich. Well, now everybody is is that you're still
at heart, to your point, a youth coach, but also
an academic institution. So you're there with the trust of
you're educating and getting them ready for the next set
(27:45):
of their lives. Being able to be insulated to not
deal with other people. That's not really the way the
world works. You're cut off. It's like, well, eventually I
gotta go out there and I'm gonna need contacts. So
if I'm gonna come here and you're gonna close me up,
why am I bothering? So if I if I have
options and I can go to Syracuse and I can
go to Duke or insert school here, I'm gone. Like
(28:08):
I might be looking to do what that guy at
UNLV did a year.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Ago, I'm done. Yeah, hun game too, I'm out. What's happened?
I mean, really, a guy he just he just doesn't
get it, just doesn't get it. Something we're going to
talk about in a couple of minutes. And we've just
seen the replay. This is where you know what I said,
I can't believe Dak would do anything that would that
would cause Jalen Carter to spin on him. They just
showed they just started the second half, started the rest
(28:33):
of this game after the lightning delay and the Eagles
had to punt get in the football back. Now, they
showed a different angle of the Dak Prescott Jalen Carter interaction.
And from this angle, which is from the far end zone,
it's sure as hell looks like Dak spit at Jalen
Carter first. Wow. And it was the Seinfeld second spinner
(28:55):
that wound up getting ejected. So, I mean, you see
this and it's like, whoa, it looks like Dak Prescott
spit at him first and Jalen Carter. Of course, you know,
they always catch the guy that responds. They always catch
the guy. They don't catch the first guy did it,
They catch the response and it certainly looks like that happened. Wow.
That has never been anything I expect from Dak Prescott
(29:18):
and that that's just disappointing. Man, that really is just
disappointing to see that.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, like spit and dribble down but just the principle
of it and just egging him on.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Wow, that's an interesting angle.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Knowing that we have a million cameras there or however
whatever capacity is yep, yeap, plus the ones on the
field and everything else, We're gonna get it. Who not
to mention big brother, I mean, all of that is there.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
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My best friend Mike Harmon My Upset Special. The game
has resumed between the Cowboys and the Eagles a long
weather delay, eight and a half to go in the
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fourth quarter. Eagles have the football, leading the Cowboys twenty
four to twenty. And of course this game is gonna
be known for one thing. Now. We have Spitgate. All right,
let's go DJ. Clearly the Cowboys feeling spit for spat
on what happened earlier. So Jalen Carter, one of the
top five defensive tackles in the NFL, was a second
(30:25):
team All Pro last year, is kicked out of the
game before the first play for spitting at Dak Prescott
in the last few minutes. At the near the end
of the weather delay break, NBC showed they had a
different angle of the interaction between the two of them,
and from the television camera behind the goalpost, you see
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Dak Prescott, who is you know is before the first
play from scrimmage a couple of the linemen on either
side of Dak Prescott. Dak leans forward, spits at Jalen
Carter kind of smiles and then in each other's face.
And after this interaction, Jalen Carter spits at Dak Prescott.
Now it completely you understand why Jalen Carter spit back
(31:08):
at Dak Prescott. You can't sit here and tell me
he was spitting at the ground. He was spitting low,
but he leans forward to spit at Jalen Carter. And
then the fact that he smiles right after him, gives
him a hey, what's up? And they get each other's face.
This was not Dak Prescott spitting on the ground and
backing up.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
But I don't have the overhead of where that spit
lands relative to where Jalen Carter is.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
He spits at him. He doesn't if you're spitting at him, dude,
if you're spinning on the ground. Your your face is
way is way.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I farked in your general direction like he's in money
Python and the Holy Grail to agitate it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
He leaned, he leaned forward and spit at him. Whether
he thought that that's what I'm gonna do. And again,
I completely think differently about Dak Prescott than I did
twenty minutes ago that that that he did this. There's
no doubt in my mind he spit out Jalen Carter,
but he's spinning spit in his face. He spit down.
He was spinning down more towards belly button level, right
toward towards swarts. That that's where the spit goes if
you're spinning down. And I can't believe this is what
(32:03):
we're talking about. Night one of the NFL. Yeah, this
is it.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But don't I don't know how far that spin direction
it was right at him, it was between you don't
know where that that spit landed, though.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Dude, you see the angle of his head again, if
you're spinning down, your face is all the way, but
it dribbles down.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And then he goes us and gives him the like
he's he leans forward.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, So Okay, so you're telling me you think he's
spinning on the ground. He leans forward before that, he
leans forward to spit, and then he backs up, and
then he gives him a smile and nods his head
and they get into it, and that's when Carter spits
on him. So I'll tell you what, looking at this,
it's probably only fair if you suspend Prescott for the
next game, because if the Eagles lost their guy for
(32:47):
this game for spinning on sportsman like conduct, he's thrown
out of the game. If you find this information, you
find this video afterwards, there's gonna be a review of it.
They're gonna look at this video and make sure you
find that he spit out him and clear it looks
like he did. It's only the right thing to say, Okay, well,
they missed their guy for this game, You're gonna miss
your quarterback for the next game.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Curiosity as to how the NFL will interpreted, I want
the overhead view as to wear that spit landed relative
to Jalen Carter's presence on the field, right, Because it's
one thing to just kind of spit while you're staring
a guy down like you have so many Westerns or whatever,
which it to me, that kind of looks what it's like.
And then he does the exaggerated head motion after the
(33:26):
spit's gone. But all of it's subject to interpretation, and
without you know that overhead shot where I can clearly say, okay,
it came within a foot of his foot or his
gut or whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Like it was an agitator move, no question about it,
with the bright eyes and everything else. So now you
have to you know clearly Jalen Carter took it as
a hostile actor said, but here's the well, you know
what you might have gotten me. But wait, I can
spray yeah, but see, but here's the thing. The act
of spitting out a player is susceptible to a penalty
and ejection. So it doesn't matter where you hit him.
(34:00):
If they rule he spit at him, And clearly he
spit at him. I don't know that he did, dude,
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Look at the video. He leans forward and you see
his head come up as he spits, like he's spitting
at him. If you're spinning straight down, it's different. I've
spit millions of times, but that looks like and then
he laughs at him and gets in his face. You
think that was just oh, I'm spin. I don't know
what Jay when Carter's response was because his back is
to us in this camera angle, right, But so he's
(34:27):
laughing at whatever the retats is from Carter. But Dak
is the But Dak is the guy that spit first.
If you kick Carter out for spitting and the Eagles
lose their guy for the whole game, that's only fit
again spit for spat TJ. That that's that's kind of
what it has to be.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'd love for some director of officiating to tell me
what was going on. That's unfortunately we're at the disadvantage.
We've got to react with no sound and try to
try to parts it together through the wonders of social
media in this regard. But yeah, it's certainly the slow
mo on the camera. It's like we're in a Seinfeld
(35:07):
episode for crying.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Amazing. The second spinner, Roger McDowell, that is one agic
loogi exit out about a fresca exit swollendum, you look
at it yourself. He spit at him. Yeah, that could
be game two, No, Deck, Oh, maybe they can get
Tony Back. Did you we just need you for one game?
Just come sling it. Uh More on opening night of
the NFL Cowboys Eagles and more big developments from this
(35:31):
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tire buying should be well. Still in a weather delay,
Cowboys and the Eagles. Eagles will be taking over with
four forty four to go in the third quarter. Following
Miles Sanders fumble, Dak R. Scott makes a touchdown saving tackle.
That was the last play we saw as a weather
delay has creeped in lightning in the area. That probably
(01:09):
came out of Jerry Jones's hands. When he saw Miles
Sanders fumble. Ah uh, So we're probably about a half
hour away right now. That's what Adam Schefter is reporting
from the game resuming, So it could be another half
hour until we get the rest of this game tonight
between the Cowboys and the Eagle.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Now, while they're killing time, we did get a great
update from around the Cowboys locker room where you have
a bunch of cold Cuts. Trevon Diggs came out to say, hey,
we need some food back the cold cuts man. So
the old Cuts came back with a giant cart. I
don't know if he was going to stand in line
and try to use his debit card to buy a
bunch of stuff, I don't know, but they got a
cart back, and they added they also have a bunch
(01:47):
of uncrustables, which I've come to find over the last
year is really I think a market that is propped
up by NFL teams.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh okay, I thought you were gonna say like because
Micah Parson's mom when she thought he was going to
be playing like cut him up for everybody, specially on
across the Balls. But now not. Now she showed she
can do that in Green Bay now she can do that. Yeah,
but she's still there to support the old friends. So
you know, funny thing before you get too because we're
gonna give you our AFC and NFC Championship game picks
(02:16):
coming up in a couple of minutes. We do it
every year, gets more teams in. We picked the teams
that would be vying to go to the Super Bowl.
But uh, you know it's funny seeing Dak Prescott make
that tackle. Uh that really stopped a touchdown. And you
know we kind of joked around about Jerry Jones was Outum,
I'll play Dack both ways. If Travis Hunter can do
it and then not gonna have Dak do it. Why
(02:36):
I'm paying him enough, why not go do it? Look
he can stop the run. And I immediately thought back
to it. This, this is a great story. So sophomore
year of high school, we're playing a team that we're killing. Right.
It was my big it was my big uh stat
highlight because I had an interception in that game. I
was so excited, right and got it and I fell
(02:59):
jumping to get the ball, all right, honest, swear to god,
I would have had to pick six, but I fell jump.
I had jumped to get the ball and I couldn't
get my balance and I was like, oh man, And
I remember our line at Scott McMillan said, Jason, I
had you, man, we had you alway done school, I know,
but I had to jump, but I didn't come down
with the ball. But I had the interceptions. You would
have had.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The opportunity about that time was when high stepping really
came in. Oh yeah, yeahant Merton Hanks and Deon Sanders,
you might have had, you know, your choice of celebration
into the end zone.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Merton Hanks by a neck. So we're winning this game
and it's twenty seven nothing in the second half, and
my best friend was a quarterback, and I thought I
was gonna be the quarterback. When the ball was really big,
I'm like, I can't throw that ball. And my friend
was like, yeah, I could throw it, and he had
a great arm. So he's a quarterback. I'm like, unbelievable. Man,
he was never a quarterback. So he's a quarterback. And
we're winning twenty seven nothing, and now you know, the
(03:47):
third quarter starts in the game, the game's over and
our coach, this is JV and our coach decides to
put him in at right guard on the offensive line,
and he puts him in because he wants to show everybody, Hey,
you know cha's tough. For Chapman's tough, he shows it.
So he puts them in and we're like, wow, carry's
going to play line Wow, and and and our coach
just stands there like he's got a big smile face going.
(04:08):
You know, Chapman used to play guard in the boys
leagueuse right, he was. He was, you know, we play
linebacker and running back in guard. He played guard the
boys league. That's how tough he is. And the coach
was like, yeah, eh, I'm putting, you know, showing you
how tough it is, how tough our quarterback is. Thirty
seconds later, after one play, our varsity coach comes streaming
on the sideline and he goes, what the blank are
(04:29):
you doing putting your quarterback and right guard? Get him
out of the game, and our cut and the coach
just goes turns and goes, all right, let's get let's
get Chapman out. Let's get chat go going, go going, going,
uh uh go going going for Chapman, going for him.
He just cut it. He's one because he knows. Somebody said, hey, uh, coach,
is that is that the quarterback playing guard? What what?
(04:50):
Because he's wearing number twelve? Sure he's in it, going well,
that was the best What the hell are you doing?
Get him out of that? He was having fun. He
was a kid, all right, all right, all right, And
he played a couple of snaps like like he play.
I'm like, oh my goodness, he actually played a couple
Is that now? I don't know, you know, at that
point in the game, do they understand it's the quarterback
(05:12):
playing line. Are they going to take a shot because
we're killing them and everything? But he plays like okay,
and he came off the field, was like, wow, that
was okay, all right, I can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, but if he was able to handle himself, he
was able to handle himself.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, sure, sure, sure for a couple of plays. Yeah yeah, yeah,
But you know, but I don't think you.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Guys gonna at that age. I mean, look I had
at the botto. Well but that's the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I mean, what are you doing out of the
As I started to say that, it's.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like, God, they're not gonna like no, I remember what
happened to me in grade school. So yeah, it was
even even earlier.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Get the guy out. That was the best good time.
So again, again we're probably a little bit less than
a half hour away from Cowboys Eagles resuming. Michael Jordan
at the game.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh yeah, he's got a better game than he got
on Monday and Monday night.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Certainly closer, that's for sure. You know, the game I
went to on Monday was really not this close. I
just want to tell you, was he still there in
the fourth quarter? I don't remember any crowd shots you see.
Is he at this game with Jordan Hudson? Oh woa?
Whoa wow? So again, a little bit less than a
half hour away from resumption of this game, which we'll
get to. But perfect time now for Mike and I
(06:19):
to do this because I was thinking about the like,
how we got to get this in tonight because the
season starts tonight. Get picked, and this is a perfect
spot for us to give you our AFC and NFC
Championship game picks. I love doing this every year, a
little different than the Super Bowl. Four teams in right
kind of fun. Since we're seeing an NFC game tonight,
we'll start with the NFC Okay, it is a Super
(06:41):
Bowl or bust year for this team because their quarterback
has to get paid, their star wide receiver has to
get paid. They understand the sense of urgency. I don't
care that they lost their coordinators. This is a team
that knows what they have this season to accomplish. And
I love the fact that Jamis and Williams He's gonna
take a big leap because he wants to get paid
(07:03):
after this year too. He's gonna break out. The Lions
will be unstoppable. It is their last chance before this
current era is over. They are way too talented to
not be there. They get there this year. Jamier Gibbs
and right now, I'll tell you right he'll be the
best running back in the NFL this year with way
less carries than than Saquon Barkley is. Their offense is
(07:25):
so much better than anything anybody else has. You'll get
Aiden Hutchinson back. I'd be stunned if the Lions aren't
in the Super Bowl, but I'll put them in the
NFC Championship game right now. I've been on them for
three years. I'll stick them all the way to the
end of this era. Lions in the NFC Title game.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
You don't like me on the AFC side with Come on, man,
get over the huff. You know this is a team
I really want to to pick, but all and I
had it written down, and then all of a sudden
we get the injury report of hey, there's a calf
injury for a certain running backup in the Bear.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh a calf injury. You saying, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Why why did they trade for that other guy from washingtonf.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Injuries are yeah, it's easy, No, that's fine. So based
on schedule and everything else, you get a little bit excitable,
but it's all contingent on all number twenty two getting
out there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You look at the forty nine ers who are nineteen
to one for Super Bowl odds, perty got paid, You
look at depth balance, all of those things, A favorable schedule,
so the road is open. But I look at Christian McCaffrey,
I go, how do I trust you? You're already breaking
my heart on a Thursday before the season even starts,
(08:36):
leaving me all nervous. They will be playing the Los
Angeles Rams, WHOA in the Stafford Bowl, which will make
everything come full circle from the trade that really jumpstarted
both of these teams runs to where they are right now.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Now, I asked the obvious question, will Matthew Stafford and
his back be available to play in said games?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, I'm glad you said that, because on I don't
think it matters. Wow, okay, all right, now we're talking Casey.
You know what that means. Matthew Stafford if he's gets
dinged up, if he's hurt. This offense is made to
work with basically anyone you've seen anyone they have run
the football, come in and run the football well right,
whether it was Acres or Kyron Williams, doesn't matter catching
(09:21):
the football, whether it's Cooper Cup or Pooka Nakua. And
now you have DeVante Adams added. The Rams have done
such a great job of adding talent, adding mercurial talent,
drafting well. But this is a system where, yes, Matthew
Stafford one of the biggest clutch quarterbacks in the game,
your favorite quarterbacks, favorite quarterback, But if Jimmy Garoppolo plays,
the offense will be just fine. And this is a
(09:41):
RAMS team is gonna win a division that's not gonna
be as great as people think it's gonna be. Rams
and the Lions the Stafford Bowl to go to the
Super Bowl. Take that.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You know, I love me some Jimmy g So I'm
all over there. Look, I've got this Eagles squad. It's
very tough to knock them off because we look at
the division. I don't think that Jalen Carter will be
a dope again after this. We'll see if he gets
any kind of suspension after the spitting incident that started
off our twenty twenty five campaign. But you've got a
(10:12):
team with great depth on both side defensive tackle maybe
a little bit. And it's funny because you saw how
easily Dallas goes down the field.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's like, well, you know you always script these.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
But no, no, this was the Quentin Tarantino rewrite because
you had a guy getting thrown out for spitting and
now all of a sudden, that whole offensive set is
something different and it takes a couple of possessions to
get right. We'll see if that how it holds up
here once we resume play here in Week one. But
I like the Eagles too much and the depth and
what Jalen hurts and that offensive structure gives.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
So there's our NFC Championship game picks. What about the AFC. Okay,
here's where I'm getting a little loose. Oh look at
the little it's temporaneous here, right. It's easy to pick
the Bills, But I'll tell you the Bills maybe in
for little bit of a regression, maybe a little bit
easy to pick the Ravens. However, I've seen the Ravens.
(11:07):
I've seen that movie many times and it ends the
same way we have yes with Lamar Jackson turning the
football over in the playoffs and they lose. Okay, the
Bengals are a very trendy pick. Health is always a
big thing with the Bengals. That lack of defense might
coming back to get you in some boy. I am
gonna go with something that we haven't seen in the
NFL since twenty twenty two. Two teams from the same
(11:29):
division wow in the AFC Championship game. Neither of these
teams are the Chiefs. Give me the Broncos and the Chargers.
WOWFC Championship game. Wonder what kind of odds you get
on that part. It's hard to not love Denver. Their
roster is phenomenal. Watching their second and third stringers dominate
(11:49):
in the preseason is something. They are always well prepared.
They have no weaknesses. Sean Payton is able to now
this is his third year. He's got the team he wants.
He's got the players he wants. He excited about fourth
round picks, and he says Pat Bryant's the next Michael Thomas.
But Bo Nix is terrific. He was right when he
said he's the guy I wanted. Their defense is good,
(12:10):
they have playmakers all over the field. Do not sleep
on the Broncos. I get that they're starting to get
a little trendy, but they are a terrific team and
I see nothing but great things for the Broncos. The
Chargers man look out for Jim Harboy year two again,
year two. Now, he's got the talent he wants in
the place he wants. He's got a sledgehammer running game.
(12:30):
He trusts Justin Herbert more than he did probably at
this point last year. Lad McConkie is fantastic. Quenton Johnston
had a big leap from last year to this year. Right,
you brought Keenan Allen back, You'll be able to throw
the football when you have to. Justin Herbert will show
just how remind everybody just how good he is and
that defense. People forget it's one of the top five
defenses in the NFL, So give me. I know it's
(12:51):
tough to see two out out of the same division,
but we saw it a couple of years ago Broncos
Chargers AFC Championship Game.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I just did an odds estimate based on well the
Action Network website the bet that he proposes for the
AFC title game seven and eighty three to one.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
People, Oh, I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Twenty seven to one both teams to win the Super Bowl.
So I mean that's for one of the you know
that that team to finish the job. But I mean,
that's kind of insane. But we look at the AFC.
I've got the Chiefs, right, you had your opportunity to
get him, like the chalk to a degree that the
fourth favorite to win the Super Bowl. But you're looking
(13:33):
at a squad that comes back where she Rice misses
his time due to suspense. You've got depth at wide receiver.
Patrick Mahomes doesn't need to put up pinball numbers, although
I think he will at points. Travis Kelcey had ninety
seven yard receptions last year and everybody hated him. Yeah,
like I know, he had a bad Super Bowl, plenty
of plenty of plays were just like, that's not there. Well,
(13:56):
he wasn't on tour with Taylor Swift this time around,
hanging around Europe drinking beer. Uh and and they got
some calories off for dancing. But otherwise it was the
struggle Bush as we look at that. But so I
got the Chiefs on one side of it, when we
look at the other. You mentioned, you know, Buffalo and Baltimore.
(14:17):
It's it's hard to go away from those two. I
love the Denver pick. That is highly gutsy, no question
about it. Uh, cycle it all down. I'm a glutton
for punishment. McDermott and the Bills because of the easy
walk through the division. Yeah, it's it still should be
so it should still be an easy path. But then
(14:37):
it becomes they all right, how do you get over that?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
That's the thing for me with the Bills is like,
I think during the regular season, because the division is
not great, they'll be able to mask some of their difficulties. Look,
their defensive backfield is not terrible again, and it's not
like they got so good in the offseason. It's just
everybody else in the division is really starting over. So
once you'll they'll get there. I'm not. But once you
get to the playoff okay, which.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Is why I I can pick them to get to
this game, sure, but not to get past it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So the dragon waits for them and vanquishes them again.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So there it is. There are are official AFC and
NFC Championship game picks. Twitter at how about Afresca? Twitter
at Swollen Dome Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, here you go.
Who are we playing for? All the marbles later on
this year? Update Right now from Monday night football teams
are getting back on the field right now. They are
(15:30):
going to start warming up sometime in the next couple
of minutes. Play a schedule to resume shortly after eleven
thirty East Coast time, so in about fifteen or so
minutes from now. Again, teams just getting out of the
field now to start warming up. That is when we
plan to resume this game. Watching Jalen Hurts is starting
to stretch right now, so the warm up period has started.
(15:51):
About fifteen minutes from now. We are going to get
the rest of this football game.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, it was intermission you got your snack, right. I mean, look,
we talk a lot about the complaints, Uh what's gonna
happen with with red zone and how it's gonna be covered,
and we got the you're gonna get four you know,
very short breaks of.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Course of those hours, so all yeah, shat app But
here you go.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You got an extended forty five minutes. You could have
walked the dog, taken a nap.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Made a couple of sandwiches, made a sandwich eating it,
made another sandwich about that too, and dessert wonderful like
all of those things you could have pulled off, or
a third sandwich, you know, try I like that, especially
if you got the mini sliders going then then you
don't feel so bad. So we'll have a resumption of
this game coming up in a few minutes. But straight ahead,
another football story. What famous head coach is continuing to
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play petty trolling games and he's making his team suffer
for it? That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox
Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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Speaker 4 (17:00):
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Speaker 1 (17:29):
Look, I'm gonna do things my way, and my way
is terrible. You waited that long just to play that. Yes,
they've been in a weather delay for lightning for the
past forty ish minutes, but both teams are on the field.
They're finishing warmups again. We're probably a little bit less
than ten minutes away from this game resuming four forty
(17:49):
four to go in the third quarter. Eagles will be
taking over following a disastrous Miles Sanders fumble that Cowboys
aren't Look, we're on the verge of going in taking
the lead instead. Eagles have the football now their own
seventeen yard line again. Will start this game coming up
in about ten minutes or so. A couple of things
with it really quick though, Bears Twitter having their fun,
(18:11):
Hello darkness, my old friend, the pictures of Eber Flush
staring down at his play sheet. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
So that and and a lot of complaints, including gard
guy Jason Cole going, that's that was what you did
for the delay? You just did your halftime show again.
How do they come out of the second half? Okay,
how do they come out after a delay? Yeah, it's
too bad.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
They don't have like radio people or people like us
that could say, hey, we got a delay for forty minutes,
forty minutes, Come on, we do four hours a night,
forty minutes. That's fine, Yeah, do that. Dance it out
of our heads. I'll never forget that. When when I
first started doing TV and I was doing like first
take and stuff for ESPN and all of that, and
and they said, okay, what do you want to make appointment?
I said, yeah, I'm gonna do this, and they go, okay,
so we're gonna give you, we'll we'll well, you know,
(18:53):
we're gonna you know how much time do you need
to go? How much time do I need? Like, yeah,
to prepare I go? I do I do four hours
a night. Just to let me know, let me know.
You need me in five minutes and I'll be in.
I'm ready. Let me know, get me in five minutes.
Of the first times, like we've been doing this show, welcome,
welcome in if you're if you're new to what we
do here at Fox Sport Trader, Jason'm not doing this
show now you're eleven. I just remember like the first
(19:14):
time you took a vacation and I had some folks
come in who evidently the concept of a four hour
show was just freaking them out. It's like you really
could do four like this is really pretty easy. How
much How much time you need to get your take ready?
We need to get my How long do you have
to talk? Well, like a minute and a half minute
and a half, Yeah, just let me know, give me
a five minute warning, let me know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Or Frostburg being out one time and our buddy Rob Gara,
we love you, Bob Garrett, and he goes, well, what
are you gonna say? When Jayson says that I'll go,
you sure, that's what he's gonna say when we go
on there, that's.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I I don't know what he's actually gonna say. Once
he starts and the red lights on, sure, so we'll
just go we can do this. Uh So again, we're
probably about five minutes away, and they just keep showing
the Jalen Carter spitting on Dak Prescott play, uh from
the from.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
The early part of the game.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, you know, And and it's it's kind of weird
videoing viral.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah you know, And it's kind of weird when they
show the the the the other angle of it. It
almost you know, it's hard to see what Dak says.
But I really I can't believe that Dak Prescott is
gonna say something that is gonna you know, that's gonna
really well, I had no choice because he said something
that's fighting words, you know, or something like that. Like this,
Dak Prescott, he's not gonna whatever. He's gone. He's saying
(20:32):
a lot of stuff, but that's that's not gonna happen.
I mean, come on, I mean, the guy's wearing wrist
bands and tribute to his mom. I mean, happy birthday.
I still remember his rookie year when he when he
when he drank the water and he threw the paper
cup and he missed the picked up threw it away, Like,
I don't think Dak Prescott's doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And literally did you see him going over to the
garbage can putting something right as you said that, they
cut away to Dak doing that. Yeah, Dak's mom would
have been her birthday on the fourth, So paying tributor.
I don't imagine he's starting the game trying to not
that you're not trying to get into Jalen Carter's head,
but not something that inflammatory to where you get.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Such a disgusting act there. You got tribute to Joe
buck Now elsewhere in football and I can say NFL
cod because anything that involves Bill Belichick it kind of
cuts through. I want to harken you back to Monday
Night when we said Bill Belichick and his refusal to
put out a death chart and not allowing scouts to
have access to his team shows me he doesn't get
(21:30):
college football and he will fail because he is not
looking out for his players. If you are starting for
North Carolina, you have an NFL future, right If you
are starting for one of the big Power five schools,
there's thirty two teams drafting seven rounds, undrafted free agents.
Everybody who is starting for a big Power five school
they have NFL dreams, And all you're doing is making
(21:52):
it more difficult for your players to get noticed. Because
the scouts don't know who anybody is there. You restrict
access to them, they can't really do their research on it.
This is all to help the kids. But Bill Belichick
wants to play some kind of crazy, trolling, petty mind
games because he always did it in the NFL. No,
I'm not gonna help the media. Not gonna do this.
It's a competitive disadvantage, which it's not. Come on, Bill,
(22:14):
if it was a competitive disadvantage, you might have had
a better game on Monday than losing fifty six to nothing.
So then also if it was someone else would have
done it. Yeah. Yeah, college football has been played for
a long time. This is who he is, right, and
he is he is. He is thumbing his nose at
his kids that he is supposed to protect and get
them ready for the next level and the next what's next?
(22:36):
And that's the NFL for for some of these guys, right,
Not that the not that the the scouts can't find
other ways to look at them play, not that they
can't get taped, but why are you making it more difficult.
That's what this is about. Because sorry, Bill, Yes, your
number one job is to win football games, but you
want kids who want to come there, want to play
for you. This is part of the process. Man. You
can't just say, oh, I'm gonna come in and we're
gonna re We're gonna rewrite college football in the year.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Kids still want to know that you have their back
and you're gonna help them get where they want to go.
So that was Monday night. What do we find out today?
Bill Belichick has banned the Patriots staff from accessing the
Tar Heels program. ESPN called for comment, and North Carolina
football GM Michael Lombardi said good luck and hung up
the phone. North Carolina declined comment on this. Again, Belichick
(23:21):
doesn't get it, and he's going to fail. Now. I'm
actively rooting for him to fail because all this is
doing is helping is not helping his players. The Patriot's
gonna draft guys. They want to know what you think, right,
I'm sorry you don't like the Patriots. I'm sorry about that.
But your responsibility is to the kids. So now here's
a team where the scouts are not going to know
(23:42):
anything about them because you're not giving them access. Right,
and scouts have talked about this, and while some teams
have some sort of restrictive access the quote zero access,
which appears three times on UNC's website, scouts are saying,
can't think of another school with a statement of zero access, right,
these are these all. Can't think of another school that
does something like this. All he's doing is hurting the players.
(24:05):
I'm sorry you hate the Patriots. It's team in the
NFL and his team that could wind up taking some
of your guys. Also, because the Patriots scouts trust you
if you put in a good word for one of
their players. Hey, you know what, Bill likes this guy? Okay, Right.
I don't think there's any part of the Patriots saying
we don't respect Bill Belichick's football mind and evaluation of players. Right.
I don't think that's the case. I think we should
see the players. But no, all he's doing because he
(24:26):
wants to play these petty games against the Patriots and
Bob Kraft, who pushed him out when he went when
Bob went when Bill Belichick's way didn't go well, which,
oh by the way, Bill, that's on you. You decided to
make the groceries. He made a horrible meal. So this
is an again he doesn't get it, and he's going
to fail. And now I'm at the point where I
want him to fail because he's not looking out for
(24:46):
the kids. Right. You are, in essence, when you coach
college football, you are still a youth coach in which yes,
but winning is the most important absolutely, But you can
win and take care of your kids at the same
time because it's about keeping the program going. It's not
the NFL where we'll just take new guys in the
draft every year. We don't want a guy in free agency,
we let him go. We'll sign another guy. This is
where you want people to come to the school and say, hey,
(25:07):
I want to go play for that guy. Right, what
do you I guarantee you right now in in recruiting
process if it's that well, I visited North Carolina, I
visited Syracuse, visited Duke, I visited Wake Forest. Hey, North Carolina,
they're not gonna let you talk to scouts, right, And
I know you want to go to the NFL because
you're a four star recruit, you're a three star recruit.
You want to go to the NFL. You're not gonna
get that at North Carolina. Right, forget about all the
other crazy stuff that goes on behind closed doors. Is
(25:28):
Nick Saban gonna retire? Is he gonna be there? I
hope he can beat the you know, the physical ailment
that he has, not that crazy stuff that said, this
is like garden variety. Hey, you know, you see the
same thing I do. You're not gonna get to the
same number of scouts. We'll make sure we get you seen.
Coaches all for this. He all for wants to see
his guys succeed and go on elsewhere and move on
to the NFL. It's a great thing for you, it's
(25:50):
a great thing for him, great thing for the program.
How many kids are gonna go? Yeah, Blake, North Carolina?
I mean I'm not going there, Like really, he doesn't
get it. And again, now at the point where I'm
rooting against him, well, you already have.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
The negative recruiting to that point about age, right, and
whether he'd lost his fastball. You're further removed from the
glory days of the last Patriots run with Brady before
he goes to Tampa, and certainly anybody that's paying attention,
both the families of players and the players themselves, they
now remember Tom Brady as a member of the Bucketeers,
(26:22):
right because he's gone. So now you get to this.
The other parts from this athletic report, which I thought
were really interesting, is they were restricting other scouts to
the first three periods of practice. Now, the average practice,
they say, ranges twenty to twenty eight periods. Right, here's
the whistle, All right, next setup go whatever three periods
(26:46):
of practice, one of which was stretching, so literally.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It was a are you stretching? Can you touch your
toes a little easier today than he did yesterday? Good
for you.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's about as much depth as they're able to get.
The other is they've got this guy, a player personnel
prolaison Frenzy Jordan. He's the only guy that can be
contacted with questions about prospects. In other words, don't call me,
don't call my coaching staff. So add it all up
and I get it. We've gone into the bastardization of it,
(27:18):
of the amateurism.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
And look, if we're honest with ourselves.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That was long gone with the billions and billions of
dollars that have been funneled into the system for many,
many years, just a matter of who is getting fat
and rich. Well, now everybody is is that you're still
at heart, to your point, a youth coach, but also
an academic institution. So you're there with the trust of
you're educating and getting them ready for the next set
(27:45):
of their lives. Being able to be insulated to not
deal with other people. That's not really the way the
world works. You're cut off. It's like, well, eventually I
gotta go out there and I'm gonna need contacts. So
if I'm gonna come here and you're gonna close me up,
why am I bothering? So if I if I have
options and I can go to Syracuse and I can
go to Duke or insert school here, I'm gone. Like
(28:08):
I might be looking to do what that guy at
UNLV did a year.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Ago, I'm done. Yeah, hun game too, I'm out. What's happened?
I mean, really, a guy he just he just doesn't
get it, just doesn't get it. Something we're going to
talk about in a couple of minutes. And we've just
seen the replay. This is where you know what I said,
I can't believe Dak would do anything that would that
would cause Jalen Carter to spin on him. They just
showed they just started the second half, started the rest
(28:33):
of this game after the lightning delay and the Eagles
had to punt get in the football back. Now, they
showed a different angle of the Dak Prescott Jalen Carter interaction.
And from this angle, which is from the far end zone,
it's sure as hell looks like Dak spit at Jalen
Carter first. Wow. And it was the Seinfeld second spinner
(28:55):
that wound up getting ejected. So, I mean, you see
this and it's like, whoa, it looks like Dak Prescott
spit at him first and Jalen Carter. Of course, you know,
they always catch the guy that responds. They always catch
the guy. They don't catch the first guy did it,
They catch the response and it certainly looks like that happened. Wow.
That has never been anything I expect from Dak Prescott
(29:18):
and that that's just disappointing. Man, that really is just
disappointing to see that.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, like spit and dribble down but just the principle
of it and just egging him on.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Wow, that's an interesting angle.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Knowing that we have a million cameras there or however
whatever capacity is yep, yeap, plus the ones on the
field and everything else, We're gonna get it. Who not
to mention big brother, I mean, all of that is there.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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My best friend Mike Harmon My Upset Special. The game
has resumed between the Cowboys and the Eagles a long
weather delay, eight and a half to go in the
(30:03):
fourth quarter. Eagles have the football, leading the Cowboys twenty
four to twenty. And of course this game is gonna
be known for one thing. Now. We have Spitgate. All right,
let's go DJ. Clearly the Cowboys feeling spit for spat
on what happened earlier. So Jalen Carter, one of the
top five defensive tackles in the NFL, was a second
(30:25):
team All Pro last year, is kicked out of the
game before the first play for spitting at Dak Prescott
in the last few minutes. At the near the end
of the weather delay break, NBC showed they had a
different angle of the interaction between the two of them,
and from the television camera behind the goalpost, you see
(30:46):
Dak Prescott, who is you know is before the first
play from scrimmage a couple of the linemen on either
side of Dak Prescott. Dak leans forward, spits at Jalen
Carter kind of smiles and then in each other's face.
And after this interaction, Jalen Carter spits at Dak Prescott.
Now it completely you understand why Jalen Carter spit back
(31:08):
at Dak Prescott. You can't sit here and tell me
he was spitting at the ground. He was spitting low,
but he leans forward to spit at Jalen Carter. And
then the fact that he smiles right after him, gives
him a hey, what's up? And they get each other's face.
This was not Dak Prescott spitting on the ground and
backing up.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
But I don't have the overhead of where that spit
lands relative to where Jalen Carter is.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
He spits at him. He doesn't if you're spitting at him, dude,
if you're spinning on the ground. Your your face is
way is way.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I farked in your general direction like he's in money
Python and the Holy Grail to agitate it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
He leaned, he leaned forward and spit at him. Whether
he thought that that's what I'm gonna do. And again,
I completely think differently about Dak Prescott than I did
twenty minutes ago that that that he did this. There's
no doubt in my mind he spit out Jalen Carter,
but he's spinning spit in his face. He spit down.
He was spinning down more towards belly button level, right
toward towards swarts. That that's where the spit goes if
you're spinning down. And I can't believe this is what
(32:03):
we're talking about. Night one of the NFL. Yeah, this
is it.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But don't I don't know how far that spin direction
it was right at him, it was between you don't
know where that that spit landed, though.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Dude, you see the angle of his head again, if
you're spinning down, your face is all the way, but
it dribbles down.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
And then he goes us and gives him the like
he's he leans forward.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, So Okay, so you're telling me you think he's
spinning on the ground. He leans forward before that, he
leans forward to spit, and then he backs up, and
then he gives him a smile and nods his head
and they get into it, and that's when Carter spits
on him. So I'll tell you what, looking at this,
it's probably only fair if you suspend Prescott for the
next game, because if the Eagles lost their guy for
(32:47):
this game for spinning on sportsman like conduct, he's thrown
out of the game. If you find this information, you
find this video afterwards, there's gonna be a review of it.
They're gonna look at this video and make sure you
find that he spit out him and clear it looks
like he did. It's only the right thing to say, Okay, well,
they missed their guy for this game, You're gonna miss
your quarterback for the next game.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Curiosity as to how the NFL will interpreted, I want
the overhead view as to wear that spit landed relative
to Jalen Carter's presence on the field, right, Because it's
one thing to just kind of spit while you're staring
a guy down like you have so many Westerns or whatever,
which it to me, that kind of looks what it's like.
And then he does the exaggerated head motion after the
(33:26):
spit's gone. But all of it's subject to interpretation, and
without you know that overhead shot where I can clearly say, okay,
it came within a foot of his foot or his
gut or whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Like it was an agitator move, no question about it,
with the bright eyes and everything else. So now you
have to you know clearly Jalen Carter took it as
a hostile actor said, but here's the well, you know
what you might have gotten me. But wait, I can
spray yeah, but see, but here's the thing. The act
of spitting out a player is susceptible to a penalty
and ejection. So it doesn't matter where you hit him.
(34:00):
If they rule he spit at him, And clearly he
spit at him. I don't know that he did, dude,
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Look at the video. He leans forward and you see
his head come up as he spits, like he's spitting
at him. If you're spinning straight down, it's different. I've
spit millions of times, but that looks like and then
he laughs at him and gets in his face. You
think that was just oh, I'm spin. I don't know
what Jay when Carter's response was because his back is
to us in this camera angle, right, But so he's
(34:27):
laughing at whatever the retats is from Carter. But Dak
is the But Dak is the guy that spit first.
If you kick Carter out for spitting and the Eagles
lose their guy for the whole game, that's only fit
again spit for spat TJ. That that's that's kind of
what it has to be.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I'd love for some director of officiating to tell me
what was going on. That's unfortunately we're at the disadvantage.
We've got to react with no sound and try to
try to parts it together through the wonders of social
media in this regard. But yeah, it's certainly the slow
mo on the camera. It's like we're in a Seinfeld
(35:07):
episode for crying.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Amazing. The second spinner, Roger McDowell, that is one agic
loogi exit out about a fresca exit swollendum, you look
at it yourself. He spit at him. Yeah, that could
be game two, No, Deck, Oh, maybe they can get
Tony Back. Did you we just need you for one game?
Just come sling it. Uh More on opening night of
the NFL Cowboys Eagles and more big developments from this
(35:31):
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