September 19, 2023 • 31 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debated if the Dallas Cowboys are the best team in the NFL through two weeks. How did Deshaun Watson get away with putting his hands on an official? And the guys explain why Deshaun Watson’s good days are behind him.
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room on this song, Mike Harmon, that'som no. You know
you gotta gotta go throughout the genre. Well, it is
eleven o'clock on the East Coast and the Monday night
football game is going into the fourth quarter. We are
going to the second most two Monday night games. Obviously
tonight we're getting two games. A couple of times just
happening this year, we got these Saints and the Panthers
earlier terrible game, and then the game everybody is watching
(01:11):
the Browns and the Steelers. Brown's lead at twenty two
nineteen going to the fourth quarter, and I gotta say this, this.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Is not why.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
And we're gonna have a lot on Deshaun Watson and
Kenny Pickett following this game.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But yeah, one of them shouldn't be playing right now.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Even it's it's not it's it's not one of those
Broncos Thursday night games from last year where it's boy,
it's nine to six. This is really difficult to watch.
I mean, we're seeing plays, we're seeing points. This is
just it's not a well played game. It's just it's
just not you know what if we become football snop.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, we're well we watch a lot. Yeah, boy, bad
football man.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You can't, you know, celebrate them all. But there's someone's
got to celebrate a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But that's just it. Someone's got a rank two seventy two. Yeah, yeah,
where does this game for us? We're seeing a lot
of those that are gonna probably be in the two
hundred here. Good through two weeks of the season. Good
news for Brown Steelers.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
As low as this game will be ranked, the game
earlier tonight will be ranked lower.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It was awful. Oh that was terrible.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So yes, we're going to the fourth quarter. The Browns
have the lead twenty two to nineteen. Yes, as soon
as we get more on Nick Chubb's injury, will let
you know. He left with a very difficult looking injury.
It's not an easy one to stomach if you have
not seen it. Jordan Schultz, NFL Insider put out on
social media a little while ago. They're fearing a need
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dislocation of some kind, multiple ligaments. His season definitely in
jeopardy and in doubt for his return. It's as ugly
as you want to see it. Well, second time with
that knee.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You go back a few years now, you're talking about
contracts and the way those are structures to get out
his age. All of it works to you know, you'll
hope for a recovery and a battle back. But when
we talk about the financials in the running back market
and what it takes to stay and stick with the
team and get playing time, it's it's gonna be a
(03:04):
tough road back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I mean, we may have seen the last of Nick Chubb.
I mean he may be done playing after this. Uh
so we'll have more on this game as it unfolds.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Again.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
We're going to the fourth quarter twenty two to nineteen
Browns with the lead and the football. I meanwhile, I
know what you're thinking. Oh and we definitely got to
hear Derek Carr when he winds up.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Speaking to the media. I can't wait. Let's see how
deep that southern accent is now? Everyone? Guy? You know,
is he a caging man? Now? Did he steal it?
Because Brian Kelly's been humbled, so did he steal his accent?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We two know rotten that down?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He is gonna be fantastic, is it? Kaien pepper on
neon garlic? Who salt and pepper? I'm the Cajun quarterback?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Now? Oh you left Barn't you from Fresno?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Up?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And I'm just loving lobby and is a fan that
we're doing over the first time since twenty thirteen? How
much game tape do you watch?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh? I just watch, you know, I watch me some
Billy mad.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
No got boots up? How many times times come down?
Twenty thirteen? That's all the It's all the interceptions I
had when I was with the Raid. Not none of
my fault, though, it's all the offensive coordinator's fault. I'm
borrowing from Justin Fields blaming the OC after some big
turnovers yesterday, like.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He did, Ah, I like that. It's all Look, man,
I told you last week and this week it continues.
We should just keep a running log coaches, quarterbacks, defensive backs,
wide receivers, anybody involved in the game. How quickly they're
throwing other people under the bus. Because now you had Fields,
you had Jamar Chase right, hey, you know, get some
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more go routes out there, Briest Hall, I got the
ball four times. Talk to him, you know, just on
and on. It is just finger pointing. Sean Payton. It's
unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
To complain about not getting the football. It's another thing
to complain about you threw an interception that lost the game. No,
not my fault, but it was the play call.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well he called it. Hey, he called the middle screen
three straight times. I mean, Justin, I need three straight
times out of the same form age blaming the play.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But you're still the guy, all right, don't I'm gonna
get intercepted. But I'll throw it. Okay, I mean, wow, man,
But so again, lots of stuff to get to. But
but you're getting hal Williams. Oh yeahyeah, you're ready, man,
you're ready to that. Or I get read to Sdeur
Sanders and his dad.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You could go.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You could trade justin Field to the Jets right now. Tank,
get Caleb Williams or Schador Sanders and start over again.
Come on, Or you could keep justin Fields in tank.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But I'm starting to get back to the level of
thinking that we've had with your Jets for the decade
we've been on air, and I've been saying this about
the Bears forever. It's like, just get him out of
the organization. No, the play calling, not to go too
deep on this, Like you got a guy whose entire
strength is you know, he extends plays, get to the edge,
make a play and make a throw. No, no, no,
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no no. It's like when I used to go watch
the Jets the Sanchez tebow era. I went and saw
a couple of those practices, and they would put the
cones out and they'd make tebow work between the tackles,
and it was a miserable failure. Crowd booing. You got
massive attendance in training camp, right ESPN. Fuck, everybody's got
setups there and they're watching this and it is just painful.
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And then they finally be like, all right, take the
cones away, and then you let him scramble a little bit,
you let him evade guys, and all of a sudden
he's throwing darts downfield. He's fine in a receiver who
keeps working all of that stuff. That's what they're doing
to justin fields, except they're doing in the game. You
will stay between the tackles. You will not run outside them.
And what's it doing. It's shrinking his game like this.
(06:42):
It's like I'm I'm squishing your head. Yeah, it's painful.
I actually went back and watched that a second time
because I'm all right, I gotta see I watched it,
you know, live, but you got a grid of games on,
so you're paying attention, but you can't give it your
full attention. I went back and gave it my full
attention I'll never get at that time in my life
back and it made me appreciate the rest of my
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day that much more. It's a miracle of your eyes
still work. Some miracle after that all that you have,
I mean, after that beverage you brought me last week,
that coffee energy thing you asked for a big coffee
surprise that didn't blink. You asked my cousin blink.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Since you asked for it, you said, get me something
like two or three shots of something in it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And I got you that. I got you the triple espresso,
you drake. I didn't think you'd bring me something that
had cholesterol and protein in it.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Cholesterol, well, there that was a little cholesterol was one
of the ingredients.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Was scared.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I've never seen cholesterol as an ingredient. It extra cholesterol.
Here's your triple energy shot with a meat base right
next to the gluten and the aspartame. Oh and we
got saccharin in there too.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
What do you got in there? Why don't we start
with a nice beef broth that is bandon like thirty
seven cars. I know it had a red tag on
it for a reason.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Uh So, again, we have a lot to get to tonight.
But I want to tell you this coming off yet
because you thing now, I gotta talk me off the ledge.
After the Jets get blown out by the Cowboys, thirty
to ten. Don't jump and Zach Wilson stinks and he might.
Oh it's awful, it's awful. It's awful. You know what,
Hang on a second, I'm gonna zig where you think
I'm gonna zag? Not that I'm the biggest Zach Wilson defender.
(08:17):
You would run around yelling Zach and jag for six days.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Zach Wilson did not look great yesterday. Was his pocket
presence a little bit better?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Uh? Yeah? Was he great? Well, because you're fearing getting
hit by Michah Parsons, of course your post. Well, the
Jets decide.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
We're gonna single block Micah Parsons the entire game. How
about you roll a guy over to him and let
somebody else beat you.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
How about that? I mean, Michael Parsons is at halftime,
has to be going. Can you believe they're still single
blocking me? This is great, man. Now, dude was on
Twitch and Instagram or whatever like twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He's everywhere now Michael parsonses everywhere. Look, this game yesterday
is much bigger for one of these teams, and it's
not the Jets. The Jets had a week where you're
dealing with not having rogers. You're trying to figure out
the right way forward. What was the game plan? Probably
the best, No, it was we got to throw this
stuff out there, see what we can do. Let's try
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to throw the football, Let's try to run it.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
We can't.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
They ran forty five plays, the Cowboys ran ninety. Right,
they had forty two minutes of possession. The Jets had
the ball eighteen minutes. Right, Jets have anything to do.
The Cowboys won this game. And yes, you can blame
Zach Wills saying Zach Wilson's fault. It's all of this,
But that wasn't the story of this game. For anybody
who watched this game, I have not seen a Cowboy
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team in the dak Era be this dialed in and
this motivated.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They came into the game playing downhill, just like they
did last week against the Giants. Like they came in
like it was Colorado, Colorado State. We're gonna beat the
crap out of these guys, like they've been talking about
us for the last week. The Cowboys are extremely aggressive.
There's no there was no second they allowed the Jets
a second to breathe in this game. There was no flatness.
(10:05):
Dak Prescott probably heard all the way. Dak didn't do
anything in that forty to nothing when he came out,
had his best first half probably as a cowboy.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
The Jets were one of the They got caught in
the gears of the Cowboys. They got caught under a
huge steamroller on Sunday. The Cowboys played at such a
high level. This is more about where the Cowboys are
now than it is about the Jets trying to move
on about Rogers, because we'll have that game on Sunday
when the Jets Jets Patriots is high noon for both
of these franchises, and the directions they're gonna go like,
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it's either hey, the Patriots are gonna fall to oh
to three and that's it, or the Jets are one
and two and they're the same old Jets. Because if
they can't beat the Patriots, now, when are they gonna
ever beat them?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That's this week, that's this week.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
This is the Cowboys. They ran into the other buzz
song the Cowboys. I mean, it's really it was. It
was incredible to watch the Cowboys have this kind of execution,
this sort of motivation.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
There was no.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
There was no moving off of it. There was no hey,
we have this game. There was no flatness, none of it.
The Cowboys were incredibly impressive. This is like watching a
team that is that is a win away from the
super Bowl and they're tasting what is and they're knowing
that this team we're playing is inferior to us. Right now,
through two weeks, the Cowboys are the best team in
the NFL and it's not even close. Nobody has looked
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better than Dallas the first two weeks of the season,
because you're talking about two complete and total victories from
beginning to end, and they're two thirds of the way
to being New York State champions this year.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
They're almost there. Nobody's been better than That's the hard
part though, is that we're looking at the schedule, and
we have to look at the schedule, and the Jets
got bludgeoned. The fact that Dak still through the ball
thirty eight times shows you how much possession and how
many plays they were as it's like, all right, we
can't run it all the time, So al right, it's
a sixty two fifty two to thirty eight split. Yeah,
(11:54):
we'll take that, all right, We'll roll with that because
we can't run Tony Pollard more than twenty five times.
I think contractually we were obligated to stop. I was
really thinking we'd get to see a lot more Deuce
Vaughn and Cavante Turpin instead of more passing attempts. But
it did get exciting for about three seconds when Garrett
Wilson caught that ball and kept running and kept looking
(12:15):
around like he was waiting for someone to blindside him. Yeah,
like moment he get blown dead, like he looked out
to confused, like I run him back. Wilson has never
thrown me a pass right of this open.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
But as much as that said, the Jets were a
couple of plays away from flipping the game. Sauce Gardner
catches that pick six, Suddenly it's fourteen ten Jets at
halftime instead of hey, the Cowboys go the other way.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
The jetsman two bad penalties, and now it's eighteen to
you know, eighteen seven. Even my my crap ass bears
right play right off the jub But Brisker has a
ball hit him in the face because he can't get
his hands up. Pass it up. That's a That's a
pick six all day. Long. Yeah, Baker Mayfield's not taking
him down here? What we were running right past him
all of a sudden, you're up seven. Nothing. Instead they
keep the drive and then we talk about scripts and whatever.
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But but you're also looking at a you know, the
first two games, right the Giants. Giants have played two
quarters of football in eight Yeah, legit, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But you can't play who's been the best and most
complete team in the two weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But I also have to do analysis of what are
they playing against?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Cowboys, beat the Jets, beat who beat the Bills? Bills
just beat the crap out of the Raiders. I mean,
it's not listen down the Giants and the Jets are
awful team. Well, the Jets are gonna be. It's not
like their awful team. The Jets have a great roster
except for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Now, which again, and you and your offensive line and
your offensive coordinatorsive line is offensive line was okay enough
to beat the Bills. We're okay to run for one
hundred and seventy five yards against the Bills. That was
pretty good. Well, everybody was donned pretty good. I didn't
know what was happening to them. That was pretty good. Hey,
Breese halls the game. Eight of them came on the one. Yeah.
But I'm just saying, when when we break down, like
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when a giant chunk of yardage comes off one play.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Don't forget the other one hundred they ran for in
the game. The the other one hundred yards they ran
for in the game. That's pretty good. It was, It's
pretty good. These teams are okay. These teams are okay.
And the Cowboys not proud. And the Cowboys, I think
I'm more impressed with what the Dolphins have done. Dolphins
almost gave that game weway because they were bored in
the second half.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, we're bored. We're bored. So how does that? I
like the running running the football, You got good, good balance. Yeah,
and you still have an explosive offense.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Right now, Miami is the best team in the As
I told you last week, I said they're gonna beat
the Patriots. It's going to look like they're the best
team in the AFC thro through right now, it's Miami
and Dallas. They're the two best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And New England had their chances again and can't finish.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
For New England, Yeah, well, be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays
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Speaker 4 (14:44):
This football game will never ever, and it started at
about noon today, and we're about to go to halftime. Now,
do you remember when this game game actually started?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Brian Sipelas, the quarter back for the Browns.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Clisched out through a pick to start the game of all,
And now we watched Jack Lambert with a touchdown. Nice
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Carvion.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I figured you would have gone to Jack Ham just
so get the name Ham.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Uh, We're gonna get to Sean Payton and the I'll
tell you what you talk about a guy who also
may have lost his fastball. It's not just Bill Belichick,
but what he runs a good script, but not much else.
What just happened in the Browns and the Steelers game.
We're gonna deal tell you exactly what just happened, and
then we're gonna get to the big controversy. So the
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Browns have the football up by three with a little
bit less than seven minutes, a little bit less than
eight minutes left to go, Deshaun Watson, from the shadow
of his own end zone comple pass to Elijah Moore
to get the Browns out over the twenty yard line.
He then gets sacked, does not hold onto the football, fumbles,
and TJ Watt, who now I believe tonight is the
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has the most sacks in Steeler history, is right.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
In his six seasons, he's got the most sacks, and
Steelers an absolute menace and they're usually well on the
winning side of things. When he plays.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And TJ, TJ picks up the ball and dancing like
trying to get a Jackson five reference, and I can't
TJ go.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Jackson dances into the end zone for a touchdown. The
Steelers now lead it twenty six to twenty two. That
is now to defense. So if he played the Steelers
defense and fantasy, you're feeling pretty good. That is now
two defensive touchdowns for the Steelers on the game tonight.
They lead a twenty six to twenty two with seven
minutes left to go. The Browns are getting the football back. Now,
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this is where the controversy came from. A few minutes ago,
there was a scrum after a play near the Steelers sideline,
Deshaun Watson kind of getting into it with a couple
of players and the Steelers and the officials come in
to separate them. Again, this is nothing you've you haven't
seen before and now you know you see this all
the time. And Watson looks like he's getting a little animated.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Wonder what was said to him? So you want to
try to guess ad how about a fresh I don't know.
We'll see what we can read and what we can't.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So Watson comes to the sideline and he is talking
to a player. It looks like he's talking to George Pickens.
It looks like he's because Pickens has his hands up
in the air and it looks like he's yelling at Pickens.
He's definitely yelling at someone on the sideline. He's yelling
past Mike Tomlin to someone behind him and I see
Pickens there, and Pickens responds by putting his hands up
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in the air. So I don't know what that was,
but it looks like it was George Pickens. So there's
an official who has his hands on Watson to try
to keep to try to to try to break this
up up. Now I get that when you are trying
to break something up on the field. There's a little
bit of a gray area because you have to put
your hands on a player to say, hey, back up,
back up, back up. But this is when when officials
backing you up, you're supposed to okay, it's over. You
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can't put your hands on an official. There is a
little bit of a gray area, I get because a
player is trying to get Now, if this was Deshaun Watson, hey,
the referee is trying to get him away, and he's
standing there and he's pointing at that the guy and
the other team. Okay, I kind of get that. Okay, okay,
I get that. But what Deshaun Watson does is he
tries to shove the official out of his way to
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his right to get at Pickens. That's an ejection. That's
you're out of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Out of the gun. You're out of You talked about
this earlier. You're out of the game. Right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
If you want to stand there in point and say like, oh, yeah,
you're looking, this referee is holding me back. Oh kick
your ass, Okay, you push, but he takes the official
and he pushes the official to his side. Now, did
he probably lose his head there a little bit because
you're just thinking I want to get you. Don't hold
me back, don't hold me back. Yeah, I understand that,
but that's an a jest. Out of the game, you're
out of the game.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You're out of the gamest your head for a second.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
He gets to stay in the game and to still
play well. I mean, I guess the Steelers are happy
he's still playing quarterback for the Browns in this game,
but he needs to be long thrown out of this game.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He is the Steelers leading scorer in this game. He
is well, he's doing a great job between the pick
six and now that he's also been called for two
face mask penalties tonight. Yeah, he's keeping both teams in
the game. He really is. He's the best player on
both teams.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But I don't understand how he stays in the game,
because that is a dangerous precedent to set for an
official to say, hey, how.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Did you throw the guy out?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like, like, what does the official think if I throw
the starting quarterback out? Because officials have to think fast
and what probably went through his head? And I don't
know the officials, I mean, maybe they got the Steelers
on the money line. I don't know, but I'll try
to keep that streak alive. Hey, hey, you want me
to throw him out. He's giving you the football, He's
gonna give you another one. But I get that what probably,
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and I'm just saying probably went through the official head,
is that, Okay, I'll give him the benefit of the
doubt right here, because I do I throw the starting
quarterback of the game out? Can I throw the starting
quarterback of the game out? And that's why he allowed
him to stay in the game. But there's no way
he should be stayed in. I mean, you're out of control.
You put your hands on a fit. All the other
officials right now are gonna call him and text him
after the game and go, dude, what do you think
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is gonna happen to us?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Now? What could happen to one of us?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And I don't care about Oh, if a guy hits me,
I get to throw him out.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What if he headbuts me with his helmet?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And because you set that precedent that, oh, we're not
gonna throw to Sean Watson out of the game, what
if that happens to me?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Right like that?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I mean, I'm never want to sit here and say, oh,
let's look at the big doom and gloom scenario. But
you know, nobody's happy that he is playing in this game.
I mean know that he's still in this game after
what happened. You talking about not being happy he's playing
this game before this, but after that, you can't put
your hands on an official and push him to the side.
And that's what he did. That's an ejection.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, he bounces him. It's a couple of steps. So
he didn't go to the turf. He didn't you know,
horse collar him and flip him or anything. He didn't
go uh, you know, don Zimmer going back in the
day where we've got guys getting flipped along the base path.
But it's enough to where it's it's a hard and
fast rule. We've been talking about, you know, some of
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these things, and certainly in college football, a lot of
the questions of what's targeting, what's not targeting, what's an injection?
How many personal files do you get before we throw
you out? Do you go to a yellow red card
system like you're doing soccer? All of those things come
into play, and then you see this on a Monday
night football high magnified standalone game a quarterback because someone's
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yelling at him and mocking him on the Steelers sidelines.
He pushes an official out of the way and they
let it stand. Instead, we should be seeing dtr Do you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Now let me throw this out there as a possible
because again I disagree, like he's got to be thrown
out of the game. If he's thinking, hey, I throw
the starting quarterback out, I don't know. Maybe he heard
something that's like, Okay, that's a really provocable statement. I'm
gonna give him the back because you gotta think fast, right,
all the all these you gotta think fast and all
you could you have heard something from this sideline that
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was said bias and I only say, hey, George Pickens
because Pickens is standing.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
There and he makes a motion towards Watson. Yeah. I
mean there's a couple of guys that are there, but
Pickens is front and center.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So yeah, so I don't know what what that is,
what it was, but maybe it was Okay, they said
this and provoked him. I'll give him the benefit of
the doubt on this. Whatever it was it was said. So,
I mean, those are the only two things I can
think of that would make this be something where where
there's okay, allow him in the game. But bottom line
it's it doesn't mean you gotta have control over yourself
and you clearly I mean two face mass penalties and
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this he's got no control of himself tonight. Whatever it is,
he's mad, it is, yes, he's We'll get to the
part about him stinking.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
We'll get to that part. So he's frustrated about Patty.
He's frustrated and he stinks. And now you're at the
point where you think that maybe this is who he
is now. I mean, this is this is trying to
go up that mark, up that tree a while here.
But yeah, that display it's Monday night football. I gotta
imagine that's the referees first thought, you know, yours of
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I wonder what was said. I mean, that's the billion
dollar question. And I can't wait to hear the Steelers
players because that's the first thing you're asking. Pickens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
your seventy one yard touchdown reception. Yeah that was just
great play. Yeah, great, you were what was going on
with Deshaun Watson? What happened? He Oh, he's gonna say, Oh,
I don't know. I want Tom too. Yeah, he's clever. Yeah,
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so he'll give you a good one liner.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, And you know Tomlin's what Tomlin's great at is
he's great at answering a complicated question, a contrary question
once like Tomlin answers it very much like don't don't
follow up with me.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Oh okay, so I've been ill.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You will get one time to ask Tomlin about this
and he will answer you once. So you got to
make sure you ask the right question to get the answer,
because then that's it that you're moving your move.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I remember asking about things I saw in practice fields
and I'd get the the shades came down just a
little bit, like we're talking you and me now, right,
like okay, thanks, coach.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I mean really, I don't get how Watson is still
in the game half after that because of the officials,
I really And it should have been an easy decision.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It's easy.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And whether it's the quarterback or not, quarterback does it,
quarterback does a star player or not? Star does it?
So you can't do it. If he just put his
hands on it, you try it. But he put his
hands on to me gret him, and he tried to
shove him to the side. That's it, man Like, that's it.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You know that we've had in play forever. You're done right.
Regardless of what position you play, your level of import,
you can't touch an official. That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
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Steelers defense, Hey, you won pretty big. You bookended tonight's
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six sacks and the pick. That's a lot of points.
Steelers defense, congratulate. It's a pretty good day, right And
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if you had them, I'm sure you started them. I'm
sure anybody who had the Steelers defense started the Steelers
defense tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Well, I'm working to pull up the off of the
Yahoo scoring system or this is one that Fabiano put together.
So who knows, uh, when we looked anything like the Yankees, Mike,
it sucks. No, that's a fair point. But we look
at week two, well it doesn't have that updated. It's
absolutely useless. How dare they? But you're looking at what
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six twelve, eighteen, I mean you're up near thirty points
when it's all said, no, yeah, that's a big night,
big night. Well, it also reflects how terrible, terrible Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We'll get to Kenny Pickett in a minute, but DeShawn
Kenny Wickett stinks. To Deshaun Watson is terrible. And maybe
it's the year off whatever it was, the year plus
off that he had to go through, that he that
he or that he went through. But and there's some
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kind of karma there that the Browns guaranteed him all
this money and here he is a guy who stinks
because you watch that last play when it was fourth
down and then it's a desperation play for a first
down and he throws an uncatchable ball out of bounds.
Zone uncatchable ball out of bounds. He is widely inaccurate.
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He's not a big playmaker. He gets out of the
pocket and throws the football, and he's very inaccurate. He's
just a guy. He's he's just a guy. And and
now he's had enough time coming back to football the
last year, a full off season, everything else, and he
looks like he's someone who if you didn't know Deshaun Watson,
you would just say who is this guy? And you
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just watch game tape of him for you would say, oh,
here's a highly talented rookie quarterback that just isn't gonna
break through, that's gonna wind up losing his job in
a year or two and they're gonna move on from
him because that's kind of how he plays, right.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
He's like I said, he's.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Not somebody that completes a lot of passes. And you
look at tonight twenty two out of forty for two
thirty five did have the touchdown and the touchdown run,
but also gave them two touchdowns with a fumble and
a pick six. He's not the big playmaker that he
once was. He has very pedestrian games. And because it's
not that he's not talented still, but he just has
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very pedestrian games once in a while, he'll make a play. Wow,
there he is running for a touchdown. Okay, you know what,
Josh Dobbs makes plays like that too. Once in a while.
He made a big play yesterday. But that's kind of
Deshaun want that's what he's turned into since he's come
back as someone who boy, he's really not accurate. He
really doesn't seem like he has command of the offense.
Doesn't like he's great decision making, holds onto the football
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way too long, and once in a while.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We'll make Oh that's a big play. But you know what,
even even the.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Worst quarterbacks the league made good plays. Zach Wilson had
a good play yesterday.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
He had one big one, but Justin Fields had two
great drives. They're paying Deshaun Watson all that guaranteed money
to at best be a middle of the pack NFL
quarterback because that's the new We've seen enough him to say,
what's the new ceiling for Deshaun Watson. It's middle of
the pack NFL quarterback. That's what it is. No, and
that's where we're at. And you have I know Cooper
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was limited a little bit, but he played right. It
wasn't that bad. He played in the game and you
lose Chubb, and yes, that takes a bit away, but
Jerome Ford had one hell of an effort, not just
the one big run. He was moving the ball pretty well.
Uh you got Pierre Strong showed up a little bit
for them. They they they were still able to run
the ball, but just in the pocket, a little bit
(28:54):
of panic. No slide, no uh no tuck and run
right sick for twenty two. He had a couple of
opportunities to maybe get up field and make plays with
his legs, and instead he kept trying to dance in
the pocket, thinking they were gonna suddenly break containment and
be able to wing the ball downfield. Steel's defense is good.
I got news for you. That's the hallmark of their
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squad for how many years, And we've run the stats
for weeks on what they are when TJ. Watt plays,
who was an absolute menace once again today breaks the
all time Steelers sack record, scores a touchdown, all of
that stuff. But when he's on the field, there's no
free lunch against this defense. So for Watson this was
(29:37):
a primetime effort to show he's a guy. He's just
a guy. At this point, right, he had those big
years in Houston, those might as well might as well
have been ten years ago. And it's also karmick because
he should have been thrown out of the game.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, I look, he should obviously, we talked about that.
We'll get into that more. Shoving an official couple of
face mass penalty. He's out of control tonight. And when
you shove an official, you're out of the game. That's
an automatic ejection, automatic ejection automatic. But he, I, I
really I get there is a bit of karma there
that Deshaun Watson is this beat here you go now
you're stuck. You paid him all this money because because
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you you want you, you wanted a quarterback, and you
wanted to send a horrible message to the NFL. Not
just we're bringing the guy back. We're gonna give him
the most money ever, most guaranteed money ever.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But he's the guy, I mean, and that was what
he was gonna take because right Cleveland was off the
list from every report we have had until they called him.
You all the money. You know, desperation is the stinkiest
of colonnes. But it kept making me want to go back.
And I'm not gonna do this because it's old Houston
Texans losing football. But watching him for all those years,
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was was it just he piled up stats on a
bad squad, on a losing squad, It's like, but then
you look at his completion percentage, you look at all that,
It's like, No, he was good. He was good. He
was good.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He was good.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Chiefs in the playoffs lead Bill O'Brien. They blew that lead,
and then he started everybody. I'm gonna get rid of
everybody after that. But now you watch him and the
decision making it's so slow, uh, and and the opportunity
for the defensive line and for linebackers to get home
on him and and force the issue, and you're seeing
him turtle twitter at how about a Fresco? Mike gets
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swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmon Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
He is not good.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We'll get to Kenny Pickett, who is also not very good.
But where do you see all his defenders? Oh but Kenny, No,
Kenny Pickett thinks too. He stood in and took that
shot though. But we asked the biggest Monday night football
question we can coming up next, right, here this is
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you gotta gotta go throughout the genre. Well, it is
eleven o'clock on the East Coast and the Monday night
football game is going into the fourth quarter. We are
going to the second most two Monday night games. Obviously
tonight we're getting two games. A couple of times just
happening this year, we got these Saints and the Panthers
earlier terrible game, and then the game everybody is watching
(01:11):
the Browns and the Steelers. Brown's lead at twenty two
nineteen going to the fourth quarter, and I gotta say this, this.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Is not why.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
And we're gonna have a lot on Deshaun Watson and
Kenny Pickett following this game.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
But yeah, one of them shouldn't be playing right now.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Even it's it's not it's it's not one of those
Broncos Thursday night games from last year where it's boy,
it's nine to six. This is really difficult to watch.
I mean, we're seeing plays, we're seeing points. This is
just it's not a well played game. It's just it's
just not you know what if we become football snop.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, we're well we watch a lot. Yeah, boy, bad
football man.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You can't, you know, celebrate them all. But there's someone's
got to celebrate a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But that's just it. Someone's got a rank two seventy two. Yeah, yeah,
where does this game for us? We're seeing a lot
of those that are gonna probably be in the two
hundred here. Good through two weeks of the season. Good
news for Brown Steelers.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
As low as this game will be ranked, the game
earlier tonight will be ranked lower.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It was awful. Oh that was terrible.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So yes, we're going to the fourth quarter. The Browns
have the lead twenty two to nineteen. Yes, as soon
as we get more on Nick Chubb's injury, will let
you know. He left with a very difficult looking injury.
It's not an easy one to stomach if you have
not seen it. Jordan Schultz, NFL Insider put out on
social media a little while ago. They're fearing a need
(02:32):
dislocation of some kind, multiple ligaments. His season definitely in
jeopardy and in doubt for his return. It's as ugly
as you want to see it. Well, second time with
that knee.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You go back a few years now, you're talking about
contracts and the way those are structures to get out
his age. All of it works to you know, you'll
hope for a recovery and a battle back. But when
we talk about the financials in the running back market
and what it takes to stay and stick with the
team and get playing time, it's it's gonna be a
(03:04):
tough road back. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I mean, we may have seen the last of Nick Chubb.
I mean he may be done playing after this. Uh
so we'll have more on this game as it unfolds.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Again.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
We're going to the fourth quarter twenty two to nineteen
Browns with the lead and the football. I meanwhile, I
know what you're thinking. Oh and we definitely got to
hear Derek Carr when he winds up.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Speaking to the media. I can't wait. Let's see how
deep that southern accent is now? Everyone? Guy? You know,
is he a caging man? Now? Did he steal it?
Because Brian Kelly's been humbled, so did he steal his accent?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
We two know rotten that down?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He is gonna be fantastic, is it? Kaien pepper on
neon garlic? Who salt and pepper? I'm the Cajun quarterback?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Now? Oh you left Barn't you from Fresno?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Up?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And I'm just loving lobby and is a fan that
we're doing over the first time since twenty thirteen? How
much game tape do you watch?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh? I just watch, you know, I watch me some
Billy mad.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
No got boots up? How many times times come down?
Twenty thirteen? That's all the It's all the interceptions I
had when I was with the Raid. Not none of
my fault, though, it's all the offensive coordinator's fault. I'm
borrowing from Justin Fields blaming the OC after some big
turnovers yesterday, like.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He did, Ah, I like that. It's all Look, man,
I told you last week and this week it continues.
We should just keep a running log coaches, quarterbacks, defensive backs,
wide receivers, anybody involved in the game. How quickly they're
throwing other people under the bus. Because now you had Fields,
you had Jamar Chase right, hey, you know, get some
(04:37):
more go routes out there, Briest Hall, I got the
ball four times. Talk to him, you know, just on
and on. It is just finger pointing. Sean Payton. It's
unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
To complain about not getting the football. It's another thing
to complain about you threw an interception that lost the game. No,
not my fault, but it was the play call.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well he called it. Hey, he called the middle screen
three straight times. I mean, Justin, I need three straight
times out of the same form age blaming the play.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But you're still the guy, all right, don't I'm gonna
get intercepted. But I'll throw it. Okay, I mean, wow, man,
But so again, lots of stuff to get to. But
but you're getting hal Williams. Oh yeahyeah, you're ready, man,
you're ready to that. Or I get read to Sdeur
Sanders and his dad.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
You could go.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You could trade justin Field to the Jets right now. Tank,
get Caleb Williams or Schador Sanders and start over again.
Come on, Or you could keep justin Fields in tank.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But I'm starting to get back to the level of
thinking that we've had with your Jets for the decade
we've been on air, and I've been saying this about
the Bears forever. It's like, just get him out of
the organization. No, the play calling, not to go too
deep on this, Like you got a guy whose entire
strength is you know, he extends plays, get to the edge,
make a play and make a throw. No, no, no,
(05:57):
no no. It's like when I used to go watch
the Jets the Sanchez tebow era. I went and saw
a couple of those practices, and they would put the
cones out and they'd make tebow work between the tackles,
and it was a miserable failure. Crowd booing. You got
massive attendance in training camp, right ESPN. Fuck, everybody's got
setups there and they're watching this and it is just painful.
(06:20):
And then they finally be like, all right, take the
cones away, and then you let him scramble a little bit,
you let him evade guys, and all of a sudden
he's throwing darts downfield. He's fine in a receiver who
keeps working all of that stuff. That's what they're doing
to justin fields, except they're doing in the game. You
will stay between the tackles. You will not run outside them.
And what's it doing. It's shrinking his game like this.
(06:42):
It's like I'm I'm squishing your head. Yeah, it's painful.
I actually went back and watched that a second time
because I'm all right, I gotta see I watched it,
you know, live, but you got a grid of games on,
so you're paying attention, but you can't give it your
full attention. I went back and gave it my full
attention I'll never get at that time in my life
back and it made me appreciate the rest of my
(07:04):
day that much more. It's a miracle of your eyes
still work. Some miracle after that all that you have,
I mean, after that beverage you brought me last week,
that coffee energy thing you asked for a big coffee
surprise that didn't blink. You asked my cousin blink.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Since you asked for it, you said, get me something
like two or three shots of something in it.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And I got you that. I got you the triple espresso,
you drake. I didn't think you'd bring me something that
had cholesterol and protein in it.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Cholesterol, well, there that was a little cholesterol was one
of the ingredients.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Was scared.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I've never seen cholesterol as an ingredient. It extra cholesterol.
Here's your triple energy shot with a meat base right
next to the gluten and the aspartame. Oh and we
got saccharin in there too.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
What do you got in there? Why don't we start
with a nice beef broth that is bandon like thirty
seven cars. I know it had a red tag on
it for a reason.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Uh So, again, we have a lot to get to tonight.
But I want to tell you this coming off yet
because you thing now, I gotta talk me off the ledge.
After the Jets get blown out by the Cowboys, thirty
to ten. Don't jump and Zach Wilson stinks and he might.
Oh it's awful, it's awful. It's awful. You know what,
Hang on a second, I'm gonna zig where you think
I'm gonna zag? Not that I'm the biggest Zach Wilson defender.
(08:17):
You would run around yelling Zach and jag for six days.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Zach Wilson did not look great yesterday. Was his pocket
presence a little bit better?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Uh? Yeah? Was he great? Well, because you're fearing getting
hit by Michah Parsons, of course your post. Well, the
Jets decide.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
We're gonna single block Micah Parsons the entire game. How
about you roll a guy over to him and let
somebody else beat you.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
How about that? I mean, Michael Parsons is at halftime,
has to be going. Can you believe they're still single
blocking me? This is great, man. Now, dude was on
Twitch and Instagram or whatever like twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
He's everywhere now Michael parsonses everywhere. Look, this game yesterday
is much bigger for one of these teams, and it's
not the Jets. The Jets had a week where you're
dealing with not having rogers. You're trying to figure out
the right way forward. What was the game plan? Probably
the best, No, it was we got to throw this
stuff out there, see what we can do. Let's try
(09:12):
to throw the football, Let's try to run it.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
We can't.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
They ran forty five plays, the Cowboys ran ninety. Right,
they had forty two minutes of possession. The Jets had
the ball eighteen minutes. Right, Jets have anything to do.
The Cowboys won this game. And yes, you can blame
Zach Wills saying Zach Wilson's fault. It's all of this,
But that wasn't the story of this game. For anybody
who watched this game, I have not seen a Cowboy
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team in the dak Era be this dialed in and
this motivated.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They came into the game playing downhill, just like they
did last week against the Giants. Like they came in
like it was Colorado, Colorado State. We're gonna beat the
crap out of these guys, like they've been talking about
us for the last week. The Cowboys are extremely aggressive.
There's no there was no second they allowed the Jets
a second to breathe in this game. There was no flatness.
(10:05):
Dak Prescott probably heard all the way. Dak didn't do
anything in that forty to nothing when he came out,
had his best first half probably as a cowboy.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
The Jets were one of the They got caught in
the gears of the Cowboys. They got caught under a
huge steamroller on Sunday. The Cowboys played at such a
high level. This is more about where the Cowboys are
now than it is about the Jets trying to move
on about Rogers, because we'll have that game on Sunday
when the Jets Jets Patriots is high noon for both
of these franchises, and the directions they're gonna go like,
(10:34):
it's either hey, the Patriots are gonna fall to oh
to three and that's it, or the Jets are one
and two and they're the same old Jets. Because if
they can't beat the Patriots, now, when are they gonna
ever beat them?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That's this week, that's this week.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
This is the Cowboys. They ran into the other buzz
song the Cowboys. I mean, it's really it was. It
was incredible to watch the Cowboys have this kind of execution,
this sort of motivation.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
There was no.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
There was no moving off of it. There was no hey,
we have this game. There was no flatness, none of it.
The Cowboys were incredibly impressive. This is like watching a
team that is that is a win away from the
super Bowl and they're tasting what is and they're knowing
that this team we're playing is inferior to us. Right now,
through two weeks, the Cowboys are the best team in
the NFL and it's not even close. Nobody has looked
(11:22):
better than Dallas the first two weeks of the season,
because you're talking about two complete and total victories from
beginning to end, and they're two thirds of the way
to being New York State champions this year.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
They're almost there. Nobody's been better than That's the hard
part though, is that we're looking at the schedule, and
we have to look at the schedule, and the Jets
got bludgeoned. The fact that Dak still through the ball
thirty eight times shows you how much possession and how
many plays they were as it's like, all right, we
can't run it all the time, So al right, it's
a sixty two fifty two to thirty eight split. Yeah,
(11:54):
we'll take that, all right, We'll roll with that because
we can't run Tony Pollard more than twenty five times.
I think contractually we were obligated to stop. I was
really thinking we'd get to see a lot more Deuce
Vaughn and Cavante Turpin instead of more passing attempts. But
it did get exciting for about three seconds when Garrett
Wilson caught that ball and kept running and kept looking
(12:15):
around like he was waiting for someone to blindside him. Yeah,
like moment he get blown dead, like he looked out
to confused, like I run him back. Wilson has never
thrown me a pass right of this open.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
But as much as that said, the Jets were a
couple of plays away from flipping the game. Sauce Gardner
catches that pick six, Suddenly it's fourteen ten Jets at
halftime instead of hey, the Cowboys go the other way.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
The jetsman two bad penalties, and now it's eighteen to
you know, eighteen seven. Even my my crap ass bears
right play right off the jub But Brisker has a
ball hit him in the face because he can't get
his hands up. Pass it up. That's a That's a
pick six all day. Long. Yeah, Baker Mayfield's not taking
him down here? What we were running right past him
all of a sudden, you're up seven. Nothing. Instead they
keep the drive and then we talk about scripts and whatever.
(12:59):
But but you're also looking at a you know, the
first two games, right the Giants. Giants have played two
quarters of football in eight Yeah, legit, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
But you can't play who's been the best and most
complete team in the two weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
But I also have to do analysis of what are
they playing against?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Cowboys, beat the Jets, beat who beat the Bills? Bills
just beat the crap out of the Raiders. I mean,
it's not listen down the Giants and the Jets are
awful team. Well, the Jets are gonna be. It's not
like their awful team. The Jets have a great roster
except for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Now, which again, and you and your offensive line and
your offensive coordinatorsive line is offensive line was okay enough
to beat the Bills. We're okay to run for one
hundred and seventy five yards against the Bills. That was
pretty good. Well, everybody was donned pretty good. I didn't
know what was happening to them. That was pretty good. Hey,
Breese halls the game. Eight of them came on the one. Yeah.
But I'm just saying, when when we break down, like
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when a giant chunk of yardage comes off one play.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Don't forget the other one hundred they ran for in
the game. The the other one hundred yards they ran
for in the game. That's pretty good. It was, It's
pretty good. These teams are okay. These teams are okay.
And the Cowboys not proud. And the Cowboys, I think
I'm more impressed with what the Dolphins have done. Dolphins
almost gave that game weway because they were bored in
the second half.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, we're bored. We're bored. So how does that? I
like the running running the football, You got good, good balance. Yeah,
and you still have an explosive offense.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Right now, Miami is the best team in the As
I told you last week, I said they're gonna beat
the Patriots. It's going to look like they're the best
team in the AFC thro through right now, it's Miami
and Dallas. They're the two best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And New England had their chances again and can't finish.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
For New England, Yeah, well, be sure to catch live
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays
at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
This football game will never ever, and it started at
about noon today, and we're about to go to halftime. Now,
do you remember when this game game actually started?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Brian Sipelas, the quarter back for the Browns.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Clisched out through a pick to start the game of all,
And now we watched Jack Lambert with a touchdown. Nice
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Carvion.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I figured you would have gone to Jack Ham just
so get the name Ham.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Uh, We're gonna get to Sean Payton and the I'll
tell you what you talk about a guy who also
may have lost his fastball. It's not just Bill Belichick,
but what he runs a good script, but not much else.
What just happened in the Browns and the Steelers game.
We're gonna deal tell you exactly what just happened, and
then we're gonna get to the big controversy. So the
(15:48):
Browns have the football up by three with a little
bit less than seven minutes, a little bit less than
eight minutes left to go, Deshaun Watson, from the shadow
of his own end zone comple pass to Elijah Moore
to get the Browns out over the twenty yard line.
He then gets sacked, does not hold onto the football, fumbles,
and TJ Watt, who now I believe tonight is the
(16:12):
has the most sacks in Steeler history, is right.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
In his six seasons, he's got the most sacks, and
Steelers an absolute menace and they're usually well on the
winning side of things. When he plays.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And TJ, TJ picks up the ball and dancing like
trying to get a Jackson five reference, and I can't
TJ go.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Jackson dances into the end zone for a touchdown. The
Steelers now lead it twenty six to twenty two. That
is now to defense. So if he played the Steelers
defense and fantasy, you're feeling pretty good. That is now
two defensive touchdowns for the Steelers on the game tonight.
They lead a twenty six to twenty two with seven
minutes left to go. The Browns are getting the football back. Now,
(16:58):
this is where the controversy came from. A few minutes ago,
there was a scrum after a play near the Steelers sideline,
Deshaun Watson kind of getting into it with a couple
of players and the Steelers and the officials come in
to separate them. Again, this is nothing you've you haven't
seen before and now you know you see this all
the time. And Watson looks like he's getting a little animated.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Wonder what was said to him? So you want to
try to guess ad how about a fresh I don't know.
We'll see what we can read and what we can't.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So Watson comes to the sideline and he is talking
to a player. It looks like he's talking to George Pickens.
It looks like he's because Pickens has his hands up
in the air and it looks like he's yelling at Pickens.
He's definitely yelling at someone on the sideline. He's yelling
past Mike Tomlin to someone behind him and I see
Pickens there, and Pickens responds by putting his hands up
(17:50):
in the air. So I don't know what that was,
but it looks like it was George Pickens. So there's
an official who has his hands on Watson to try
to keep to try to to try to break this
up up. Now I get that when you are trying
to break something up on the field. There's a little
bit of a gray area because you have to put
your hands on a player to say, hey, back up,
back up, back up. But this is when when officials
backing you up, you're supposed to okay, it's over. You
(18:13):
can't put your hands on an official. There is a
little bit of a gray area, I get because a
player is trying to get Now, if this was Deshaun Watson, hey,
the referee is trying to get him away, and he's
standing there and he's pointing at that the guy and
the other team. Okay, I kind of get that. Okay, okay,
I get that. But what Deshaun Watson does is he
tries to shove the official out of his way to
(18:36):
his right to get at Pickens. That's an ejection. That's
you're out of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Out of the gun. You're out of You talked about
this earlier. You're out of the game. Right.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
If you want to stand there in point and say like, oh, yeah,
you're looking, this referee is holding me back. Oh kick
your ass, Okay, you push, but he takes the official
and he pushes the official to his side. Now, did
he probably lose his head there a little bit because
you're just thinking I want to get you. Don't hold
me back, don't hold me back. Yeah, I understand that,
but that's an a jest. Out of the game, you're
out of the game.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You're out of the gamest your head for a second.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
He gets to stay in the game and to still
play well. I mean, I guess the Steelers are happy
he's still playing quarterback for the Browns in this game,
but he needs to be long thrown out of this game.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
He is the Steelers leading scorer in this game. He
is well, he's doing a great job between the pick
six and now that he's also been called for two
face mask penalties tonight. Yeah, he's keeping both teams in
the game. He really is. He's the best player on
both teams.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But I don't understand how he stays in the game,
because that is a dangerous precedent to set for an
official to say, hey, how.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Did you throw the guy out?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like, like, what does the official think if I throw
the starting quarterback out? Because officials have to think fast
and what probably went through his head? And I don't
know the officials, I mean, maybe they got the Steelers
on the money line. I don't know, but I'll try
to keep that streak alive. Hey, hey, you want me
to throw him out. He's giving you the football, He's
gonna give you another one. But I get that what probably,
(19:57):
and I'm just saying probably went through the official head,
is that, Okay, I'll give him the benefit of the
doubt right here, because I do I throw the starting
quarterback of the game out? Can I throw the starting
quarterback of the game out? And that's why he allowed
him to stay in the game. But there's no way
he should be stayed in. I mean, you're out of control.
You put your hands on a fit. All the other
officials right now are gonna call him and text him
after the game and go, dude, what do you think
(20:17):
is gonna happen to us?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Now? What could happen to one of us?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
And I don't care about Oh, if a guy hits me,
I get to throw him out.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
What if he headbuts me with his helmet?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
And because you set that precedent that, oh, we're not
gonna throw to Sean Watson out of the game, what
if that happens to me?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Right like that?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I mean, I'm never want to sit here and say, oh,
let's look at the big doom and gloom scenario. But
you know, nobody's happy that he is playing in this game.
I mean know that he's still in this game after
what happened. You talking about not being happy he's playing
this game before this, but after that, you can't put
your hands on an official and push him to the side.
And that's what he did. That's an ejection.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, he bounces him. It's a couple of steps. So
he didn't go to the turf. He didn't you know,
horse collar him and flip him or anything. He didn't
go uh, you know, don Zimmer going back in the
day where we've got guys getting flipped along the base path.
But it's enough to where it's it's a hard and
fast rule. We've been talking about, you know, some of
(21:06):
these things, and certainly in college football, a lot of
the questions of what's targeting, what's not targeting, what's an injection?
How many personal files do you get before we throw
you out? Do you go to a yellow red card
system like you're doing soccer? All of those things come
into play, and then you see this on a Monday
night football high magnified standalone game a quarterback because someone's
(21:29):
yelling at him and mocking him on the Steelers sidelines.
He pushes an official out of the way and they
let it stand. Instead, we should be seeing dtr Do you.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Now let me throw this out there as a possible
because again I disagree, like he's got to be thrown
out of the game. If he's thinking, hey, I throw
the starting quarterback out, I don't know. Maybe he heard
something that's like, Okay, that's a really provocable statement. I'm
gonna give him the back because you gotta think fast, right,
all the all these you gotta think fast and all
you could you have heard something from this sideline that
(22:00):
was said bias and I only say, hey, George Pickens
because Pickens is standing.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
There and he makes a motion towards Watson. Yeah. I
mean there's a couple of guys that are there, but
Pickens is front and center.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So yeah, so I don't know what what that is,
what it was, but maybe it was Okay, they said
this and provoked him. I'll give him the benefit of
the doubt on this. Whatever it was it was said. So,
I mean, those are the only two things I can
think of that would make this be something where where
there's okay, allow him in the game. But bottom line
it's it doesn't mean you gotta have control over yourself
and you clearly I mean two face mass penalties and
(22:30):
this he's got no control of himself tonight. Whatever it is,
he's mad, it is, yes, he's We'll get to the
part about him stinking.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
We'll get to that part. So he's frustrated about Patty.
He's frustrated and he stinks. And now you're at the
point where you think that maybe this is who he
is now. I mean, this is this is trying to
go up that mark, up that tree a while here.
But yeah, that display it's Monday night football. I gotta
imagine that's the referees first thought, you know, yours of
(22:57):
I wonder what was said. I mean, that's the billion
dollar question. And I can't wait to hear the Steelers
players because that's the first thing you're asking. Pickens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
your seventy one yard touchdown reception. Yeah that was just
great play. Yeah, great, you were what was going on
with Deshaun Watson? What happened? He Oh, he's gonna say, Oh,
I don't know. I want Tom too. Yeah, he's clever. Yeah,
(23:18):
so he'll give you a good one liner.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, And you know Tomlin's what Tomlin's great at is
he's great at answering a complicated question, a contrary question
once like Tomlin answers it very much like don't don't
follow up with me.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Oh okay, so I've been ill.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
You will get one time to ask Tomlin about this
and he will answer you once. So you got to
make sure you ask the right question to get the answer,
because then that's it that you're moving your move.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I remember asking about things I saw in practice fields
and I'd get the the shades came down just a
little bit, like we're talking you and me now, right,
like okay, thanks, coach.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I mean really, I don't get how Watson is still
in the game half after that because of the officials,
I really And it should have been an easy decision.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
It's easy.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And whether it's the quarterback or not, quarterback does it,
quarterback does a star player or not? Star does it?
So you can't do it. If he just put his
hands on it, you try it. But he put his
hands on to me gret him, and he tried to
shove him to the side. That's it, man Like, that's it.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You know that we've had in play forever. You're done right.
Regardless of what position you play, your level of import,
you can't touch an official. That's it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
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(25:01):
Steelers defense, Hey, you won pretty big. You bookended tonight's
game with a pick six, a defensive touchdown, three fumble recoveries,
six sacks and the pick. That's a lot of points.
Steelers defense, congratulate. It's a pretty good day, right And
(25:21):
if you had them, I'm sure you started them. I'm
sure anybody who had the Steelers defense started the Steelers
defense tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Well, I'm working to pull up the off of the
Yahoo scoring system or this is one that Fabiano put together.
So who knows, uh, when we looked anything like the Yankees, Mike,
it sucks. No, that's a fair point. But we look
at week two, well it doesn't have that updated. It's
absolutely useless. How dare they? But you're looking at what
(25:50):
six twelve, eighteen, I mean you're up near thirty points
when it's all said, no, yeah, that's a big night,
big night. Well, it also reflects how terrible, terrible Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We'll get to Kenny Pickett in a minute, but DeShawn
Kenny Wickett stinks. To Deshaun Watson is terrible. And maybe
it's the year off whatever it was, the year plus
off that he had to go through, that he that
he or that he went through. But and there's some
(26:23):
kind of karma there that the Browns guaranteed him all
this money and here he is a guy who stinks
because you watch that last play when it was fourth
down and then it's a desperation play for a first
down and he throws an uncatchable ball out of bounds.
Zone uncatchable ball out of bounds. He is widely inaccurate.
(26:46):
He's not a big playmaker. He gets out of the
pocket and throws the football, and he's very inaccurate. He's
just a guy. He's he's just a guy. And and
now he's had enough time coming back to football the
last year, a full off season, everything else, and he
looks like he's someone who if you didn't know Deshaun Watson,
you would just say who is this guy? And you
(27:07):
just watch game tape of him for you would say, oh,
here's a highly talented rookie quarterback that just isn't gonna
break through, that's gonna wind up losing his job in
a year or two and they're gonna move on from
him because that's kind of how he plays, right.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
He's like I said, he's.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Not somebody that completes a lot of passes. And you
look at tonight twenty two out of forty for two
thirty five did have the touchdown and the touchdown run,
but also gave them two touchdowns with a fumble and
a pick six. He's not the big playmaker that he
once was. He has very pedestrian games. And because it's
not that he's not talented still, but he just has
(27:43):
very pedestrian games once in a while, he'll make a play. Wow,
there he is running for a touchdown. Okay, you know what,
Josh Dobbs makes plays like that too. Once in a while.
He made a big play yesterday. But that's kind of
Deshaun want that's what he's turned into since he's come
back as someone who boy, he's really not accurate. He
really doesn't seem like he has command of the offense.
Doesn't like he's great decision making, holds onto the football
(28:03):
way too long, and once in a while.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We'll make Oh that's a big play. But you know what,
even even the.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Worst quarterbacks the league made good plays. Zach Wilson had
a good play yesterday.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
He had one big one, but Justin Fields had two
great drives. They're paying Deshaun Watson all that guaranteed money
to at best be a middle of the pack NFL
quarterback because that's the new We've seen enough him to say,
what's the new ceiling for Deshaun Watson. It's middle of
the pack NFL quarterback. That's what it is. No, and
that's where we're at. And you have I know Cooper
(28:32):
was limited a little bit, but he played right. It
wasn't that bad. He played in the game and you
lose Chubb, and yes, that takes a bit away, but
Jerome Ford had one hell of an effort, not just
the one big run. He was moving the ball pretty well.
Uh you got Pierre Strong showed up a little bit
for them. They they they were still able to run
the ball, but just in the pocket, a little bit
(28:54):
of panic. No slide, no uh no tuck and run
right sick for twenty two. He had a couple of
opportunities to maybe get up field and make plays with
his legs, and instead he kept trying to dance in
the pocket, thinking they were gonna suddenly break containment and
be able to wing the ball downfield. Steel's defense is good.
I got news for you. That's the hallmark of their
(29:15):
squad for how many years, And we've run the stats
for weeks on what they are when TJ. Watt plays,
who was an absolute menace once again today breaks the
all time Steelers sack record, scores a touchdown, all of
that stuff. But when he's on the field, there's no
free lunch against this defense. So for Watson this was
(29:37):
a primetime effort to show he's a guy. He's just
a guy. At this point, right, he had those big
years in Houston, those might as well might as well
have been ten years ago. And it's also karmick because
he should have been thrown out of the game.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, I look, he should obviously, we talked about that.
We'll get into that more. Shoving an official couple of
face mass penalty. He's out of control tonight. And when
you shove an official, you're out of the game. That's
an automatic ejection, automatic ejection automatic. But he, I, I
really I get there is a bit of karma there
that Deshaun Watson is this beat here you go now
you're stuck. You paid him all this money because because
(30:13):
you you want you, you wanted a quarterback, and you
wanted to send a horrible message to the NFL. Not
just we're bringing the guy back. We're gonna give him
the most money ever, most guaranteed money ever.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
But he's the guy, I mean, and that was what
he was gonna take because right Cleveland was off the
list from every report we have had until they called him.
You all the money. You know, desperation is the stinkiest
of colonnes. But it kept making me want to go back.
And I'm not gonna do this because it's old Houston
Texans losing football. But watching him for all those years,
(30:45):
was was it just he piled up stats on a
bad squad, on a losing squad, It's like, but then
you look at his completion percentage, you look at all that,
It's like, No, he was good. He was good. He
was good.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He was good.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Chiefs in the playoffs lead Bill O'Brien. They blew that lead,
and then he started everybody. I'm gonna get rid of
everybody after that. But now you watch him and the
decision making it's so slow, uh, and and the opportunity
for the defensive line and for linebackers to get home
on him and and force the issue, and you're seeing
him turtle twitter at how about a Fresco? Mike gets
(31:19):
swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Carmon Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
He is not good.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
We'll get to Kenny Pickett, who is also not very good.
But where do you see all his defenders? Oh but Kenny, No,
Kenny Pickett thinks too. He stood in and took that
shot though. But we asked the biggest Monday night football
question we can coming up next, right, here this is
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