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July 31, 2025 • 41 mins

Jason and Mike open hour 2 of the show untangling the Browns' quarterback situation. Jason Cole from The 33rd Team joins the show to weigh in on that and more from around the NFL!

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(01:03):
four hours away from the MLB trade deadline. The Mets
making moves, the Phillies making moves, the Yankees making moves.
Maybe Carlos Korea is getting traded. We will have more
on this coming up throughout the show. Maybe maybe we
get a big trade before the show Wednesday, knew we
get one of those NEPs, we get one of those
big passing passing bombs, pass bombs, Jeff passing. What would

(01:24):
it be because Jeff Passing would probably break it, So
I would say it would be a pass bomb, pass
pass ball, pass ball.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Pass ball. That'd be pretty good. It's ball.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh, I gotta write that down.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Pass Hey, you go write that one down and cut
in print. Hey can I can I just circle back
at the end of the hour, we're talking about show Tani,
and you know, we were running up against the microphone
going off automatically on us. Has there ever been an
injury in Major League Baseball that was assessed and we
got the information about what it was faster than that show.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Hey, Tony, he had.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Cramps, cramps, say his arm, it's got no, no, no, no,
everything's fine.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
He's got cramps.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
It was so fast that where when I first saw
the cramping update, it was just cramps.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
It was in the headline.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
They hadn't even put it in the in the article yet,
like when you click on to read it, like it
was just Otani leaves with cramps.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Oh, let me click on it. What happened. But it
was the same recap.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
It was the same associated press recap or ai whatever
it was showing Otani left to.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Night's game after blah blah blah blah blah blah. So
they didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
We just want to get that out there. It's cramps.
It's cramps so fast, it's just cramps. It's okay, it's cramps.
He's absolutely fine. Like, the last thing the Dodgers want
is like, we do not want to have this go anywhere.
We are answering enough questions because we've completely biffed building
a team the right way because we spent five hundred
million dollars on starting pitching, which is never a good investment.

(02:47):
But hey, that's what the Dodgers did because they had
money burning a hole in their pocket. Going na, no, no,
we don't need to go get another shortstop or that,
not a we'll move mookie bets around here, We'll do
all kinds of fun stuff. No, let's go spend money
on starting pitchers. That boy, we really have no idea
how they're gonna be from year to year. Let's go
give three hundred million dollars to Yamamoto who maybe he's
gonna be healthy, maybe he's gonna be good.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Let's give one hundred and fifty million dollars to Blake
Snell because the guy's had two really great years when
he's had contracts. Let's go give all this money to
Tyler Glasto. Why not all this money they have spent,
and they've spent it so poorly because they've decided, well,
we have everything, let's just go spend this. You know, Okay,
I get it. Your team is still really good, you
have a lot of young player. You don't need to

(03:29):
go spend money on all. First of all, starting pitching
is a horrendous investment. It always has been, and I'm
going back thirty years and starting pitching has been a
horrendous investment. Tell me one team that signed a guy
to an eight year contract that's gonna say that was
worth it every sing No, it's not. It's not worth
it because guys get hurt, they get an effective. Starting
pitching is an awful investment. And now here's the Dodgers

(03:51):
with a three hundred and fifty million dollars payroll that
needs all kinds of starting pitching help, but the deadline
then you no team, and not even the Mets when
they were bad, when they spent all this money, when
it was like we our team is this is the
worst team money can buy. Doesn't matter, they don't have
many more holes. Then the Dodgers have to fill right
now with spending that kind of money like it's it's

(04:14):
they're spending money, and they're spending it smartly. And did
they go out and do what a lot of other
teams do?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Sure, and I get that. Yeah, well we have the money,
let's go. Tyler glaste is available, let's go get him.
Blake Snell's let's go. But understand that, Okay, maybe Blake
Snell isn't the best long term investment. There's reason why
he's been on eleven teams so far, right, Tyler Glasto, Yeah, okay,
but is he Is he the guy you want to
go all and on and say this is gonna be
this is gonna be our ace? I mean still, Clinton
Kersher was the eighth starter on the team, but when

(04:41):
when the season started, now he's the second starter.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
He's moved all the way up.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
He's like Casper Van Dean in uh in in uh
uh when Starship Troopers, where he starts off as a
private and then everybody above him just keeps getting killed
by all these bugs, and by the end of the movie,
the guy's a general. It's like Clayton Kershaw started out
as Casper van Dean and all with somebody. Hey, he's
got to be at the end because everybody else in
front of him just keeps falling apart.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Class.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
When I ran into you on the battlefield yesterday, yes
I was, Yes, I was. And for those that are
gonna go do the fact checking on Blake Snell, Jason
was speaking rhetorically.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Metaphorically.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Blake Snell has not bounced around quite that much shit,
but certainly, uh the Journeyman tag the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Uh, sure you could do that.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
What we're gonna say, if you're gonna go fact check
Jason Smith on our Starship Troopers, yeah, good luck with
that one.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Well, you know, the only reason it came up was
you were thinking of Dina Meyer.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, of course, yes.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that the guy's been on four teams, right,
the guys, that guy's been on four teams, right, I mean,
and I'm telling you, man, I don't I don't know
what to say. I mean, yes, the Dodgers went out
and they spent money because they had it, because O'tani says,
I'm gonna help you. So yeah, you have to you
have you have to spend that money, right, but you
gotta spend it wisely. Maybe it's okay, Well, we've been
really trying to replace Corey Seeger since he left, and

(06:04):
we you know, we tried a little bit with Trey
Turner but he didn't stay. Let let's take care of
our our every the big holes we have at every
day positions. But instead, no, because we've run into this
problem with starting pitching every year, let's go out spend
all kinds of over the top money. Now, I'm not
saying you shouldn't spend money on starting pitching, but hey,
maybe three years and seventy million for a guy is
where you should go instead of you know, six years

(06:26):
and two hundred million dollars. Right, maybe, hey, let's spend
some of this money on starting pitching. Well, let's make
sure we get a shortstop that that is that that
we've been trying to figure out it like, these are
the ways should be spending money, and the Dodgers went
and spent it. Like hey, like that again, Like I
just go back to my dad. My dad gets twenty
bucks in his pocket and he's like, I gotta go.
I gotta go spend this. But Dad, you don't have

(06:46):
to go spend it. Just go home watch TV. No,
I gotta spend it. I got money, I know what
to do. I Like, that's what the Dodgers did, and
they spent all this cash, and yeah, it looks great
on paper. And before the season, I said, man, if
this team comes through, this is the best roster I've
ever seen.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, but look what happened.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
This is what happens to starting pitching. This is what happens, Larry,
That's what happens.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah, I mean, look, when we go through their money's spent,
Certainly there are a number of points where you're just
kind of going, hey, no question about it. The fact
that you have a number of guys that can't get
on on the field certainly exacerbates the issue because we're
watching the bullpen have to pick up so many appearances

(07:23):
and innings along the way.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
But I mean they are still top heavy hit or wise.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Even with his deferred money, Sho Hay and Mookie and
and Freddie Freeman making some considerable corn coin. The fact
that Michael Confordo is one of those guys that would
crack the top ten on the roster without really playing
up to that gets into into stuff. I mean, fortunately,
you got Andy Pajas, who's a nice bargain, so he

(07:48):
gets to you know, dollar cost averaging for you to
take a little bit of that pain away. But yeah,
you invested a lot in the closer position. You got
two guys right now you don't trust. That's the the other.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Part of it.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now, since we are sitting here, I've been able to
have more baseball on the way.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Uh. I got a great hot take for you, like
I've been okay, it's for a while.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah yah you No, No, I got a great hot
take home and you realize you're gonna go, oh, this
is not really that hot.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
We're in early days.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
In training camp in the NFL, and clearly still the
Browns quarterback situation is where we are all defaulting to.
Right the two big stories the Browns quarterback position because
of Shador Sanders and how Aaron Rodgers is doing in
Pittsburgh with the Steelers but every day there seems to
be a new piece of information on the Browns. On Sanders,

(08:42):
on Dylan Gabriel, on Flatco, on Kenny Pickett. Right, the
four guys they have, and now that Kenny Pickets at
a little bit with with his hamstring injury, that's gonna
that's gonna be a bit. Right, He's gonna miss some time,
He's gonna miss some reps. You have four quarterbacks, you're
you're trying to figure something out with. Now here's my
hot take, right, Okay, everybody's expecting it. At some point

(09:02):
in this preseason, the Browns are gonna realize that, you know,
we can't give everybody enough reps. We're gonna cut one
of them. We're gonna trade one of them, recoop a
draft picks somewhere else, and we're gonna go for We're
gonna have three quarterbacks, right, We're gonna do something like that,
and you know, one guy's gonna get injured. Maybe where
were that? But I'm gonna tell you this right because
understand that the Browns are in a season where they

(09:25):
are tanking. Right, They've already been answering questions about arch
madness and or not tanking for arch Manning. Okay, this
is a team that you're spending all the money on
de Shawn Watson. I understand, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, then
you draft Dylan Gabriel, who I don't think was on
anybody's draft board before the fifth round, and then you
went out and got your Door Sanders, which, oh yeah,
we wind up getting it.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
We will.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
We passed them over five times, we still went out
and got him. I'm gonna tell you this this year
for the Cleveland Browns, all four of them will start
at least one game. They will all start a game
this season for Cleveland because of a combination of injury
and ineffectiveness, and they're tanking all four of them. Don't

(10:08):
keep all four of them because they'd be ner. You
can't let Flack go go because he's the guy the
break last in case something really bad happens. He's got
to play, right. Kenny Pickett's a guy you went out
and went a lot to go get. So you're not
gonna get rid of Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
You went out and made Jay. He's the guy we're
bringing in that we expect to be our bridge quarterback,
or maybe he can he's a first round pick, like
they went out and spent a lot to go get
him right, or they went out did put the most
resources in getting Kenny Pickett, And then you drafted two
rookie quarterbacks who may wind up being good maybe not,
so you want them to see the field too. Now,
I'll be I'll be the first guy to tell you

(10:41):
I don't I don't know what the order is gonna be,
because Pickett's injury is sort of putting a you know,
putting a bit of a wrench in that timeline. But
they're gonna hold on to all four of these guys.
They will find a way to keep them all on
the active roster because it's the Browns and they stink,
and they're going at some point this season they'll want
to see what they have out of all of them,
or they'll.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Be forced to. All four of them will start a
game for the Browns this season.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Book it as they walk to the field, fantastic four.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Okay, not really?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
And then there's the one guy saying, hey, do you
think you can make five? We'd like to introduce you
as five. No, no, no, we're four. We're only four.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Soon enough, man, I tell you look, Joe Flacco is
the guy that's just gonna be in the epsom salts
and waiting his turn. You've seen what he can do.
You don't need to learn anything new. Can he Pickett
missing time Stefanski, I mean, this could have been the
reclamation project. They don't know what they're doing over in Pittsburgh.
We'll bring him in X Steeler now good. Following the

(11:41):
old jet formula that seems to be going around in
the National Football League like a plague, there's only one
more year after this of the Deshaun Watson contract. You've
got them for twenty five and twenty six before you
have the void year. So you got to ride that
out as you will. I did find it funny, and
we talked about it a little bit. Rich Hornberger in
for you yesterday. Jason the idea that Haslam gets up there.

(12:02):
He's answering all sorts of questions, and when asked about
drafting shad Or, it was just like, oh no, that's
all Barry. That is completely just Barry from head to toe.
I got nothing to do with that. You all wanted
depending on me, says like, so if it goes wrong,
you've already you've got him halfway out on the plank
at this point, because you're already gonna blame him for
Deshaun Watson too, because Barry at one point was doing

(12:26):
all the dance of like no, no, no, that was a
team effort.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
That was a team effort. That wasn't me. I wasn't
pushing for that.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
So yeah, you're fantastic four and just pass the baton
like a fifteen.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Hundred meter relay. Could very well be the case, just
out of necessity.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
I mean, but Joe Flacco, if you let him out
there long enough, you're gonna win a game or two
by accident. So whether it's for Arch Manning or for
someone else, you still want the number one pick, even
if Arch goes back to school. Don't you want somebody
good as opposed to drafting fourth or fifth or and
then having to wish and hope. Yeah, I think you do.
So eventually it's picket and the rookies. Uh, that'll be

(13:03):
they'll roll the ball out and have them going.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Okay, because now, because now you got me thinking about this, Okay, yeah, okay,
Joe Flacco is mister fantastic, right, He's the leader, the
old Yeah, the older guy, the guy that's seen everything, right,
he's mister fantastic.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Little Gray in the Temple. Yeah, so we got that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Uh Shador Sanders is Johnny right, human torch right, he
drives fast too.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah he's the guy. He's the guy.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
You have the speating tickets.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
It works, Oh sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely see. Dylan
Gabriel is the is the Invisible Girl because people forget
he's there.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So oh wow, super Bowl Champion.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Ok, I mean yeah, I mean I guess it makes
Kenny Picket Ben Grimm, But I mean like that, that's
the one that doesn't really fit, Like it's only because
there's four.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
And he's yeah there, I guess that's a tough one.
I really have one because Dylan Gabriel one comes a
mini thing. Yeah, uh no, Dylan, get you forget about him?
That'd be really because the Invisible Girl could she can
turn it although she didn't really do a lot of
invisibility stuff and Fantastic four, but well, I mean, you
really don't hire Vanessa Kirby to be invisible.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah that was probably something from a raging So she's
not gonna spend most of the movie invisible, right, so
you're gonna pay okay, great, good the power you're gonna use,
the force field powers that she has, right, yeah, okay,
great to want to.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Make sure that uh you know, I don't one trick
pony here. We got out of being sure.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, because I saw that deal you cut with Moss
backrack where he's only gonna be in like a couple
of flashbacks as a human. So uh, I want a
better deal than that, just just so you know. All right,
all right, great, thanks appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
And none of you on the nose with the cooking
thing that was in the trailer, so that's not a spoiler.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
But I mean, come on now, hey, none of this.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Hey we're gonna steal from the bear. We're putting you
in the kitchen where we're gonna make you some stuff. Right,
maybe maybe you're gonna put you in a suit. Hey,
I wear suits. Now I didn't know be suit.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I wear suits.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
That's what happens, really, guys. All four of those guys
are gonna start a game.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
You can just see it, like if if if Pickett
comes back and he is healthy enough, right, I'll try
to do this just because we have Pickett's injury is
really what's what's making this difficult. But let's say Picket
comes back and they're all healthy for the beginning of
the season. Right, if they're all over the season, Picket
will start first, and then it will probably be Flacco.

(15:14):
If something bad happens or if Pickett is ineffective, right,
they'll go to Flacco because there'll still be in the
time of wanting to of wanting to win games, and
then Flacco will play for a little bit the season
will start to get out of control. Maybe Flacco's ineffective
because you know, he's over forty and he's not always
gonna be good. Then it will be we need to
see Chador Sanders. We need to if you're gonna have

(15:35):
somebody go. Then you'll see Sanders, and then you'll see
Dylan Gabriel. You will see all of them at some point,
maybe maybe Gabriel before Sanders, just because clearly they want to,
you know, really want to make Shador earn it. But
I would say, if they're all healthy, it's gonna go Picket,
then Flacco, then Gabriel, and then Shador. But they will
all start at least one game for the Browns this year.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
What about the absolute potential for the the chaos theory
really coming to bear.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Uh and see what they did there.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
You know, Flacco start and we know like even when
he's at his best, he's gonna put the ball up
for grabs. But eventually we're gonna have a number of
quarterbacks injured across the league, and for a bucket of
balls he gets traded.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
They might all not finish the season on the rock, yeah, roster,
but they will all.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Start a game for them before they get draped.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
That'll happen, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Still draft Jerry Judy. Guys, someone's gonna catch the ball.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Look, once you get down to the you know, the deadline,
and it's like, hey, you know, hey, we're down to
Gabriel and Shador and you know Kenny Picky. Okay, hey Joe,
why don't you go, Hey, the Cowboys need a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Why don't you go to the Cowboys?

Speaker 6 (16:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (16:43):
No, absolutely, something like that. I can't.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
They won't all finish the season on the right, but
they'll all start one game for the Browns.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Well, I'm already going to petition for a Panini instant
card of the four of them together so I can
celebrate the greatness. That was the Cleveland Fantastic Stick four.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Fantastic four.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
They all they all walk out the beginning of the
game they play that they play after the song going.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
For perfect tie in.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
It is brown like kind of like the rock not
quite the dudewipes guy that was on there when the
dude fell off when they unveiled the helmet, which is
still problematic to me, the shade of brown and then
you got the dude wipes tied.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
But you know, hey, you do what you do.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
No I got just had because that's the best part
of the movie, was that Fantastic four.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Like that's a really good musical trill right there, Like
we all.

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Speaker 5 (18:01):
They don't need the number four because Smith Watson's got
it right now.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Now they'll come in to just take it from him
and give it a rip.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
It right off and there.

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(20:05):
Nobody better to talk to than someone who can tell
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a starting spot this camp. Then remember the thirty third
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is on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. It is
Jason Cole. What's happening, man?

Speaker 6 (20:23):
How are Jordan loves? How easy? We haven't had the
Jordan love thing for a while. Is Rosburg on location
in Camps? Yeah? So you're looking live from Tom Benson
Stadium tomorrow. Is that what we're going to be doing?

Speaker 4 (20:42):
I think that's exactly what we're gonna be doing. Frostbury,
he's a busy guy.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
The game that's interesting for five minutes.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Okay, Hey, Trey Lance is going to play meaningful football
to him?

Speaker 6 (20:57):
Correct, that's it's extra extremely meaningful. I would absolutely agree
with that. For everybody else, they're going to be waiting
for about another month.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Guy, what's your big gambling best bet for that game tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Jason Cole and a half?

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Your overall completions over under for Trey Lance? What five
and a half. I'd go with the over. I give
them a chance. I give a chance on that. Is
there anything somebody said to me the other day they say, yeah,
how about betting on the pre Like? What? What? What? What?

(21:36):
And oh you got to hear about these guys? They
hit they hit. I'm like, hey, you always have from
the guys who win. You never hear from the guys
who lose. And that's like the vast majority of people
who dare to bet in the preseason, Like, why would
you bet on guys that are never going to actually
play in the NFL? What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, Jake Hole, I think if the deeper dive you
do into gamble and you realize that sometimes there's a nothing.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Generous bet on, it's a generous Yeah, what's in the coin?
That's yeah, yeah, let's let's make that work. You know,
what's what's going to happen? I get it? So yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
John harb fourteen?

Speaker 4 (22:19):
What color Khakis does Jim Harbo way tomorrow? Are they beige?
Are they ten? Are they silver? What color Cackies does they?

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Wait? You think it's John Harbus for I don't think
it's brother. Yeah, I think you get the wrong hardball.
So we're also a really bad start here.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Well, you to get your mine for tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Come on, trying to give you a lot tomorrow for
the game to bet on Chargers.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
Come on, man, lord, lord, lord, just stop it, to
stop it, all right, what do we want to talk about?
Real football. Come on, let's go.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Oh I was gonna tie.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, hey, all right, so I gave you I gave
a big hot take a few minutes ago.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
What do you think about this? You ready?

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Okay? Wait hear this? Can't wait?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Fantastic Okay, all four Browns quarterbacks start at least one
game for them this.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Year, So Gabriel should or Flacco and it was a
fourth ticket Bryan, Yeah, Brian said. Brian said, definitely could
start this year. Although that's the way that would be
a problem.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Now, wait a minute, Brian Sipe is hanging.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
On cardios, probably alive. He's still he's probably still hanging in.
But that, Brian, that that gives him a better chance
to start. That's a pretty good take. I gotta tell
you this. That's I like that most of the time.

(23:43):
I want to find a reason to hate your takes. No,
I gotta give it to you. So this is a
good one. Yeah, especially I love it. Which, Yeah, that's
the real that's the real thing you got to figure
out is in what order do they start games during
the seasons. So you're guessing it's going to be Flaco
right off the bat, right.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, I'm thinking if Picket is healthy. And that's the
big wrench in this now is that you know, with
with the with the injury. But if they're all healthy,
it's going to go picket. Flaco Gabriel Sanders strong bet.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
I think it's I think they're going to go with
a healthy hand to start, and so I would go
flacko picket, But I think you have the tail. And
the last two nailed, especially when Jimmy Howson is going,
oh no, no, that's the Andrew Berry's fault that Let's
make it clear, that's Schadure guy, that's on Andrew Berry.

(24:38):
Let's just I just can I can I repeat this
one more time? Schadure is pick, not the one I
thought we were going to be taking, Like Jimmy has
them for a really nice guy. Cannot get out of
it out of his own way, just like get it
wrong every time, like instead of saying the thing you
should say, which is he's our guy, and we believe

(25:00):
even him, and we hope that he turns out being
a star, and we're behind him all the way. And
you know, and Andrew was in the lead of that pick,
and I'm in agreement with him, and let's go no, Yeah,
make it sound like I got nothing to do with
this guy. I couldn't. Like he is radioactive as far
as I'm concerned, Like he's plutonium the weapons. Great.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Yeah, I was waiting for him to circle back and
say remember that to Shaun Watson thing that was all
him too, and just put it.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
All on anybody but me. I'm here to be taking
blame for Deshaun Watson until twenty fifty on this one.
That's just so brutal. Since they've never they're never getting
out of that.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
So anyways, but no, but then Dylan Gabriel by Halloween
and then Shador Sanders early descemb.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Ooh ooh, this is now you're really talking like I'll
say it because because let's I said Ticket's terrible. He
lasts three or four.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Games until the season becomes okay, they were one in
seven and it's over and we're tanking.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
I think I think they I think they pull him
faster than that, because if you're if you're starting Ticket,
you're of the belief that you can turn him into something,
and if and if if you turn it in, if
he goes one in seven, that's a complete indictment of Stefanski, right,

(26:29):
so Stefan sit there and go, that's that's on me,
and you lose your job if you just sit there
and say, this is why I think Flaco Flatto starts
the season. I do. I think that he goes.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
And especially if if if he if Picket is hurt,
then Flacco would start and it would flip flop would
go Flacco first and pick it.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, the injuries the thing, right.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
But but but I think that you know, Stefante go
like a we're contender, will go with the guy who
gives us the best chance to win games, and that's Flacco.
And then if it blows up, then you go, Okay,
well you know we gave it our best shot, and
now let me see what I can do with Picket.
That's that's what I think you do. I mean, if

(27:10):
you combined all four of these guys at this point
had a good career, If you combined all four of
these guys like you still wouldn't have a good starter.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
He started voltroning this guy and still not killing right,
Like you just melt.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Them together and they're still terrible. There's still I mean,
there's nothing. It's just a zero. It's just an absolute zero.
Like I mean fla Flacos obviously had a very good career.
He's not part of the Hall of very Good. Let
me just say that. But he's had a very good career,

(27:51):
very good. I knew where that was going but before
it even started.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
But he would get into the Hall of very Good though,
if they, you know, there's a Hall of very good, Flacco.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Would get in.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Yes he was, if there was a hall. But it's
a hall of fame.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Oh yeah, you could build another museum. Okay, A lot
of fan favorites would be there. I mean we might
get some tourism.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
You can get Yeah, you can get you can get
Jojia Kobe in there. That's a that's a good one.
That's a good night at that point.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
All right, now, now let me let me, let me,
let me throw this left turn at you. Now, okay,
how many weeks let me say this. Who's the quarterback
of the Browns? When Aaron Rodgers loses his job with the.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Why aren't When Aaron Rodgers losing his job?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
How long does Aaron Rodgers make it? Does he make
it all the way through the season? Does he make
it to December? Like when when Will Howard starts? Like
at that point, who's starting for the Browns?

Speaker 6 (28:54):
What are we doing? Like back up Tarlane or the like?
Is this like are you doing? Like, guy, I'm going
to Vegas this weekend and I'm betting the backup par way?
When do I get to Will how Howard Dylan gave
real bad you know, when do I get that parlay going?
Or where do I where? When do I bet the sure?

(29:16):
Like this is really advanced stuff I give you, Like
you know, you're really way out of it, because wow,
if those if those guys are starting, like you might
as well just end the season for those teams early. Yeah,
we're we're we're. If you're if those guys are starting,

(29:37):
that means you're already thinking, you might as well, just
like the entire the entire coaching staff might as well
just scout games college games there to see the next
their next players are.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Let me ask you what, Let the players.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
Let the players coach themselves. That's what they should do,
like you know, like you do that that events what
happens like sometimes that you know, like high school practice games,
like the coach walks away and says, hey, I want
to see how you guys do it? Go cut yourselves
right now, let me see who can handle it, who
steps up and as the leader. That's what That's what

(30:13):
happens to the Steelers and of the Browns this year.
If you've got Howard and you've got either Gabriel or
Sanders starting at the end of your like they just
walk off and go, hey, guys, handle it yourselves, put
the game plan together. Let me see what you can do.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
All right, let me ask you one more over under though,
how many more times will Jerry Jones insult Michael Parsons
before finally putting a contract in front of.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
Him at least seventy two?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Okay, good, we'll drag this out a little while longer.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
I like this, Oh yeah, what's the deadlines? When's the
deadline on this contract? So like whatever, whatever the deadline is,
he's going to milk this all the way. I love
Stephen Jones. Oh, we don't do that. You do it
every single time. Why don't even just say does I'm
not getting into that, Like, don't lie about it because

(31:03):
we all know that you do it. You're playing up
because this is the way the Cowboys create drama because
they're not a good like they have to have extended
contracts and cowboy bees. It's like that combination. It's what
they have to have to generate interest. You have to
have Jerry walk meandering the field in Oxnard in that

(31:25):
beekeeper outfit. That's the only thing that makes sense. It
makes it work. It literally is a beekeeper outfit. You
guys are laughing. Have you seen it. It's a beekeeper outfit.
That's what he wears. He doesn't want any he doesn't
want any son to touch any part of his skin,
that one single part.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Bam.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
You know they had to state them guy in the
first Beekeeper, I'm going to be starting the beekeeper too,
so just so you know, state them hands the ring.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
We're sitting a free agent beekeeper for here. He's gonna
be He's gonna be every good. He is the b
version of Michael. He's a way he's way better than
he's just he's not very good against the run. But
this guy, when those bees start to run, he catches there.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yeah, we'll horns too.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
They meant the murder hornets were supposed to take over
the Pacific courth west and just eat their way all
the way to Nebraska by now.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
But yeah, we're able to stop the murder horns.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
So it's amazing that you're Jerry gets worse and worse
the more you do it.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Well, I can get worse.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
How can I get worse? Well, how can you not?
How can you not get better at doing Jerry like
I live.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
In a week It's been a week away doing Jerry impression. No,
it's good.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Rest in peace. Banks. He was the greatest ever doing
Jerry Jones. He was I sure, I wish I had
recorded it, but he was so good.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
But no, Jerry is pretty good. You're the only one.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
No, yeah, you're the only one. I'm just the only
one who's willing to tell you in this conversation.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Now, listen, you're the one that don't you don't you
don't like you don't like the Parsons kid.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
But I liked him ever since Big Bang Theory. So
just so you know, we're gonna give him a big
contract at some point.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm just wait for the big best time to get
a headline.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
To do it.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
I was big when it was the Alan Parsons project.
I loved Alan.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
I tell you I had the eye outside.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
That's and that was the best persons I ever had.
That was Jimbo came along and he just tore it
up there with all them planets and stuff, and you know,
and now we got we got Mike, and he's tearing
it up. But he's just he's afraid of the run.
So I just campaign him that kind of moment.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
You you're you don't even have an impression.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You just sound like I'm talking fast in your voice,
like you're you're that's a.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
That's a. That's an awful impression.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
SI's pretty good, dude. Come on, it's really, it's awful.
It's really it's it's future like Twitter, Harmon, Harmon, be
honest with him.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Tell him he said took a week, honest, be honest
like that in the bumblebee bee honest.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
All right, take it easy, buddy.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Oh boy, you know, time to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports. And Martin, wise, Martin,
save us from Jerry Jones and the bee keepers, will you?

Speaker 9 (34:29):
It really is like a beekeeper's out like he like
if you if it came out that Jerry had like
a little allergy to the sun, I would not be
shocked at all. It's it's remarkable. I spent way too
much attention to Cowboys training camp at the day job.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
And trust I've seen movies about guys that can't go
outside during the day, but they only come out at night.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
I see you at night.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Maybe that's how we used to.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Forget and clean, filing the teeth down a little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I'm drinking what looks like the fruit punch Gatorade, but
not really, just so you know, all right.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
He's just waiting.

Speaker 9 (35:03):
That's why he's got that. He's just waiting for somebody
to invite him in the house. Tell me, please invite
me in.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Not coming in until you say I could commit. Okay,
that's great, all right, great.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
Got some live baseball going on right now. The Rangers
what they five to one lead over the Angels top
of the eighth inning. The Angels also making some trades.
They acquired veteran believers Luis Garcia and Andrew Chaffin from
the Nationals, the Mariners and the A's going at it.
A's with a four to one lead top of the
seventh inning. Other trades that were made. The Phillies got
closer Jwan Jordan from the Twins for two top prospects,

(35:34):
the Mets trading for Cardinals closer Ryan Helsley and right
handed pitcher Tyler Rogers from the Giants, the Tigers trading
for Braves right hand to Raphael Montero, the Cubs trading
for right handed pitcher Michael Coora, and the Reds got
third basement from the Pirates Brian Hayes, the Reds also
acquiring Zach Little the picture from the Rays. I'm sorry

(35:55):
from the Pirates. They got Cabrian Hayes exactly tel from
the Rays, the Astros acquiring infield of ramon Arius from
the Orioles. The Reds beat the Dodgers five to two.
Shoe al Tani left that start. He pitched into the
fourth inning and threw six straight balls, then got pulled.
Reports say that he suffered cramps but was able to
come and stay in the game rather to be a

(36:16):
dh the Mets. The Martins beat the Cardinals two to nothing.
Yankees walk off the Rays five to four on a
single by new third baseman Ryan McMahon. Elsewhere in baseball,
the Tigers beat the Diamondbacks seven to two, Royals walked
off the Braves one to nothing on salvi Perez walk
off hit Astros one to nine. Over The Nationals said

(36:36):
that backwards Astros nine to one over the nationals. Pirates
beat the Giants two to one, Padres beat the Mets
five to one, and d w NBA the Fever beat
the Mercury one oh seven to one oh one. Alyssa
Thomas at thirty two points and fifteen rebounds dream over
the Wings eighty eight to eighty five. Nows Hilman with
twenty one off the bench to lead Atlanta, Page Beckers

(36:57):
at twenty one and seven assists in the Losspeat the
Liberty one hundred to ninety three, and the feast A
Collier with thirty and nine. Ravens tight end Isaiah likely
will undergo surgery to repair a broken bone in his foot.
He suffered that broken bone on Tuesday's practice. Expected to
miss about six weeks. Chiefs y receiver Xavier Worthy in
the league's concussion protocol.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
The Bengals released.

Speaker 9 (37:19):
Veteran running back Zach Moss after one year, and the
Seahawks signed GM John Snyder to a four year contract extension.
Former NBA star Gilbert Arenas was arrested. Yester arrested on Thursday,
Wednesday rather for a federal indictment alleging he was operating
a legal gambling business on a high stakes poker game

(37:42):
played in Thensino. One of the other defendants was a
high level member of an Israeli transnational organized crime group.
About thirty minutes ago, Gilbert Arenas posted on instag on
Twitter picture of a video of him going down the
steps of the courthouse saying they can't hold me. He is,
at least for now, seemingly not under federal custody, so

(38:05):
an update on that story.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Back to you guys, Thanks a bunch.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Martin appreciated my friend coming up next, a player that
everybody in one league should.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Be focused on. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend
Mike Harmon. You know, still waiting for Caitlyn Clark's return
to action WNBA, but ratings haven't fallen off the cliff.
People are still watching. I'll be it more people watching
when she plays. But w is doing really well and

(38:48):
one story today should be all you need to know,
and it should really be the last time we need
to have the conversation of, Hey, Caitlyn Clark's league, and
we should stop fighting about Caitlyn Clark getting the attention
that other players don't think she should be getting. And
this is because of her teammate, Sophie Cunningham. Right now today,

(39:12):
big headline, earlier today signed a deal with Colin Coward's
Volume podcast network, and her rise in relevancy and popularity
and whatever money she is making has been incredible. Third
straight day we're talking about her. This is what people
should be focused on. This is what the WNBA should

(39:34):
be focused on, instead of does Caitlyn Clark get too
much of my attention? Why am I not getting the attention?
Because honestly, Sophie Cunningham is a jag, right. She's just
a player, right, She's not someone who's a superstar. She's
come off the bench for her career. She had a
couple of years where she's averaged over ten points a game.
But look, she's not start. She hasn't been starting most

(39:56):
of the season. She scores about seven points a game.
But look at what she's done. She's someone that now
has endorsements with Ring Doorbell RB's Adidas Now Volume a
podcast Networth with with Colin All. After defending Caitlyn Clark
right defense, Caitlyn Clark in the game gains a lot
of popularity.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
She thrusts ahead.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
With she's big in fashion when she you know, where's
what she wants to do the games. She's increased her
social media presence like by.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
The into the millions. Now, this is what you should
be doing.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Caitlyn Clark has put a spotlight on the league. Sees
that attention for yourself because this is Sophie Cunningham, who's
not even a star, and look at what she's doing.
She's one of the most talked about players in the game.
Don't sit here and tell me Caitlyn Clark's getting the
attention that I should be getting. Sophie Cunningham is someone
who's done. She's just a player, right, but look at
what she's been able to do because of the attention

(40:49):
on the WNBA.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
You're dumbest blank if you don't think Caitlyn Clark is
the face of the league.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
That's what she said on a podcast earlier.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
What it has done for me.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
But we had the rst thing right, Hot girls eat
Arby's T shirt.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Guess what they're sold out right now. They'll let you
know when stock is back in.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
The only thing you can order is a double X
on the site right now, it's twenty bucks a pop.
Yesterday we talked about the guy who's in with Jeanie
Buss on the Women of Wrestling going.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
I want her in.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
She was the enforcer. She showed she'll be tough, and
she can talk and dance. She's got TikTok followers. Let's go,
and now you add this today. Yeah, absolute genius by
her and her team.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
This is who everybody should be and this is how
you cut through.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
This is how you do it.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Coming up next, we got a big story of the
out of the NFL coming your way.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
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