July 26, 2025 • 42 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier with all the latest on the Feds probing NFLPA actions. And A's Rookie Nick Kurtz may have just had one of the best games in MLB history!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome in hour two of the program, Mike
Harmon alongside Arnie Span You're in for Jason Smith. Tonight,
Smith out Gallivantik in the Greater State of Michigan. So
if you see him out there, a guy in a
Mets Syracuse Nix hybrid. Funny, they're all the same colors,
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so you can just mix and match. Don't really have
to do a whole lot with your wardrobe there. But
if you see him at how about a Fresco, point
him out and send send notes our way. He's probably
outside of another white castle. As we see.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
He loves Detroit, loves the vacation there.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Well, you know, kid rock One's saying, Arnie, if Heaven
ain't a lot like Detroit, I don't want to go.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
That's what I was just about to say.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
We are you gonna start singing it to me like
fire on the Mountain? Is that where we go? Look,
we got some budding scandals in the National Football League,
plenty of chaos there between the Union and now another
issue that is a squeers head. But first, I mean,
in the update that Steve de Sager just gave you,
I mean it, we'd be remiss if we didn't celebrate
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the fact that Kurtz has gone six for six with
eight RBI for the A's and a fifteen to two
rout of the Astros with four home runs.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Now his stat line if you bring it up, well
you know you're conjuring evil. Six at bats, six runs
scored in six hits. That's the way it reads in
the box score before you get to the eight RBI
and four home runs. But four home run games. I mean,
we just do not see this every.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Everyone seen it. Break up, sure, break up the record.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We have four one game, sure, sure, sure, I'm trying
to thank Michael jack Schmid I think has one in
his history.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
There you go, it's going to be a short list.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, I also know that if I give it and
let it breathe long enough, we're going to have Steve
de Sager is going to know those guys.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Know he's a wizard. We've had this conversation before.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
According to a quick review, we've had nineteen instances in
the history of Major League Baseball before tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Four home one games. Yep, GETI with Suarez. Hugenio uh, Henio, Henny.
I'm trying to channel my inner Manci Milanas because she
said it just so brilliantly.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
He is much better than well then, look she's got
that down.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
He did it this year. I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, so he did do this chair, But I mean,
you've got some of the all time greats that have
done it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Willie Mays did it.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Bob Horner, one of the classic guys from the Braves
back in the day, guy who made me believe I
could be a big baseball player. Why because I was
big and a baseball player and then I stopped growing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm a short little man.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Michael Schmidt and Michael Jack Schmidt, Gil Hodges, lu gerrig
Ed Delahanty, will Yeah, No.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean some legends there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I mean it's certainly not happening a lot recently, but
nineteen times before tonight in the history of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
We celebrate the rarity. It's like the other night right.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Where you have the catcher's interference and a walk off
that hadn't happened since nineteen seventy one when it happened
against Johnny Bench. Oh my, so you know you're seeing
like baseball. We talk about it a lot. Jason and I.
He had a conversation back when he used to do
an evening show at the Other the Other Shop, and
(04:01):
Jason Stark said, look, every night you watch baseball, uh
you're gonna see something you may not have seen before,
or uh, something that maybe only your grandparents had seen.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And ever tonight we give you a little of that you.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Ever do like unbreakable records in baseball, or like I
mean the.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Rby You want to do some list radio?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
No, I just know, but I mean, just you know,
just just's some that just like back to back no hitters.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I saw a guy just sell a cut signature of
Johnny vandermir On on Twitter just the other day. Could
got a hundred bucks for it. Was I'm an old man,
you look young, I look spry. I'm a powerful and
attractive man. But I am old and I am learning,
you know what, you know what.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I'm surprised has stood all this time as Hack Wilson's
RBI record. You would think that somebody like Judge just
would have put a you know.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The way the well.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
But you had a lot, Yeah, but you had a
lot of solo meaningless home runs in the back end
of games. It just turns off cub just to tie
tie it to Hack Wilson.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Nobody's gotten close on that, to be honest, I mean,
they haven't really gotten close.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well that's a tough one though, right, I mean, because
you go back, if you look at the National League
for many, many years, you had essentially three automatic outs
in most lineups. The pitcher of the second basement and
the catcher were all light hitting individuals. And you can
go back and you have outlier years where there were
great lineups or you had a second basement like the
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Cubs and Ryan sand But but now you might have
a little bit more to where hey, this should make sense,
you've got more. But all of that to say, you
still have a lot of light hitters, I mean, and
then we've got three outcomes and a lot of strikeouts.
Not many guys draw walks with great frequency, going up,
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grip it and rip it kind of thing, as if
they were happy Gilmore.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Uh so you gotta so you've got that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So you've got a lot of free swingers, which means, look,
you were watching team batting averages plumbing year over year
every year.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
That's scared too Major league.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But what in the National teak as last week right
you had Will Smith was the only guy hitting over
three hundred.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
There was that stat that you'll still Smith the catcher,
about two fifty hitters. Where what was it like ten
fifteen years ago? You'll have just about every team has
you know, had so many two fits about at least
two fifty or higher. Now team batting there's like only
what four or five teams above two fits. This is
horrible the way hitting has gotten just absolutely and we
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grew up or baseball had some some of the best
hitters we've ever seen in our life, you know, like
Tony Gwenn and Rod Carew and people George Brett, people
like these were like the best hitters in the history
of the game compared to what we have now.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well, but look at what you just did. You just
went and pulled the best of the best, like any
football well you.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Know Brady or Mahome.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeahs, like you picked four of the greatest hitters the
game has ever seen. We don't have those guys, like,
of course we don't have those guys. Those guys, those
guys are unicorns.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah. Well, Tody Guynn was just doesn'believe.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, one of the nicest guys. He's sitting talk
to that guy forever.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
The stats you can give him about his strikeouts in
his career compared to strikeouts now is just mind body.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, to put.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
A little pin in this and to give you some
of the historical precedent because you brought up the RBI
in a single season. So curiosity, you know, killed the cat.
But gets Harmon to start clicking he clacken while you talk.
Is you got Hack Wilson at one ninety one, Luke
Garrett goes one eighty five, Hank Greenberg now and then.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Look we'll look where we're going. We're going on a
hundred years ago, right, Jimmy Fox.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Another couple of lou Garret seasons where he hit one hundred,
had one hundred and seventy three and twenty seven and
thirty Kline going back again, Jimmy Fox, Greenberg again, then
Babe Ruth comes in in nineteen twenty one, one hundred
and sixty eight. The most recent guy that cracked the
top twenty, The only guy recent to crack the top
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twenty was Manny Ramirez in nineteen ninety nine had one.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The next closest two thousand and one, Sammy Sosa had
one hundred and sixty and then Sosa again in nineteen
ninety eight, that magical year had one hundred and fifty eight.
Ajan Gonzalez season, we're on bays.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
People were getting walked ahead of them, so they were,
you know, are getting walked behind them.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I'll tell you what that ninety eight season, man, you
want to talk about fun and baseball. And I was
at Cooperstown and they had a giant day by day scoreboard,
and that was when Ken Griffy Junior was still part
of that race with McGuire and Sosa, and they over
the loud speakers were playing every one of their at bats.
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So as soon as all right.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
He did, we have it on the TV. They were
breaking in to see that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Oh absolutely, I mean, it just captivated a nation, and
then all the guys that got fat and rich and
happy were the first to say, well, those journey rotten crooks,
keep them away from Cooperstown and everything I hold here,
the sanctity of the game. It's like, wait, where were
you in ninety eight when these guys showed up looking
like they were straight out of.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
A Marvel movie after one off season? Any loved it?
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Man?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah, but we loved it right.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I mean, look, then they had the braves pitchers with
the chicks dig the long ball commercials and everything else.
But hey, we've got a big scandal in the National
Football League, and I know you you love scandal as
much as anybody. We'll get to the union part of
it in a minute. But the NFL was fining roughly
one hundred players and two dozen club employees for violating
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the league policy by selling Super Bowl fifty nine tickets
for above face value. This coming from the Associated Press
they was selling two said the players who resold them
will have to pay a fine of one and a
half times the face value they paid.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Oooo.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
What a deterrent, since.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
They made far more than one and a half times
the face value. Have you ever gone into the secondary
market or a Super Bowl as a guy who paid
through the nose to take by then father in law
to the game between the Packers and Steelers in Big D.
We're talking three and a half to four times your
face value. And that's even folks in a fire sale
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desperation moment. Club employees who violated the policy will be
fined two times face value.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Memo sent out.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
The league still completing its investigation, but this goes back.
We saw this years ago. Mike Tice, right, offensive line coach,
coach coordinator, all of those things. He had gotten in
trouble for it because he had a nice little business
running tickets through And look, it's part of the policy, right.
There's no betting on base that's in the clubhouse, no
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betting on your team, fantasy leagues, there's different rules all
of those kind of things. But according to the CBA,
players on all thirty two teams they can purchase two
tickets for the Super Bowl. And they're enhancing the mandatory
compliance training regarding the policy for all personnel, emphasizing the
specific requirements of the policy and the broader principle that
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no one should profit personally from their NFL affiliation at
the expense of our fans.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Right, right, So some people could understand what's going on here.
Players and coaches are allowed to purchase tickets for the
Super Bowl, whether they're playing in it or not. So
these players, coaches, administrators, whatever they were, decided I'm going
to purchase two tickets and they get it at face value, right, So, Mike,
what is face value on these tickets? Do you known't
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off to.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Take anywhere between maybe six fifty and several thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
So they get in.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Is paper and they do a lottery for so many
tickets or whatever, where someone Joe and Susie Q public
may get to buy a few. And then you've got
people that have media affiliations also for responsibilities, will be
allotted the ability to buy tickets as well, and they're
under the same perview.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Right right. So you buy a pair of tickets, let's
say a thousand dollars a piece, and you sell them
to a broker for five thousand dollars apiece and your
pocket the money. How egregious is that, especially if you're
a player or a coach where you're making millions on
top of millions of dollars and you're really sticking it
to the fans who have to pay that exorbitant price
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in the secondary market. It's a big blank you to
the fans. It is so disgusting. If you're going to
buy two seats, hey, how about doing something right with it?
How about giving it to a super fan of your team,
or donate it to charity or who knows, do whatever.
You will, give it to friends or family. But to
go ahead and make money off it and put it
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in your pocket, I mean, how desperate you have to
be when you're already a millionaire. I think I think
it's horrible they do something like that, Mike, I think
it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wow, do you need a hug on a Friday?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
You're on the other side of that. I don't care
what the market is, what the market will bear, and
you're around a millionaire.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
No, no, no, don't do that, because that means if
I've got five bucks, I shouldn't have six. If I've
got a million, I can't keep working towards the next million.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
So let me just get this right. I got fired
from my job. I'm not working. You're a gazillionaire and
you don't want to buy me lunch Okay, I can
see the kind of person you are. Then right, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
If you if you need some help. I'm not saying
I'm not working.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I don't have a job. Come on, man, you know what,
pull your head out of here, you know what? Come on, man,
these these guys make millions of dollars and they why.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Not everybody makes millions of dollars two. You don't know
someone's financial responsibility. You better get the hangers on that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
And then I don't care who do right? This is?
Come on, that's wrong that don't buy two tickets?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
No, no, it's the look, it's the policy as stated.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
But in terms of do I think on the grand scale,
this is some egregious, horrible thing. No, you made a
couple of bucks on a couple of tickets.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
That's not the point. The point is it was a
big blank you to the fans.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Are a lot of those tickets you might have sold
them to your buddies.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well you know what, that league doesn't know that. How
many other employees or players did that?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
What kind of nice guy are you if you say
to your buddies, I'm gonna have to make a couple
one hundred dollars on you when you know you could
have just charge them face value as you're already a millionaires.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, your buddy really wanted to go to the game,
you could go pay five thousand. There you can get
them from me, uh for an extra cup of coffee.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Uh please.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
My point just being you can't You can't monitor every
one of those transactions. You can try, but in this
particular case, of all the things going on with the
league and he's leagues, this is far from the most
degregious you've got going on here. Now it might feel
a little slimy for you, but if I'm a guy
at the back end of a roster like we were
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talking about earlier, right, I'm man number fifty three, and
I can make a couple extra bucks before I inevitably.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Get that's not who's doing it well.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
But in the absence of that, we're talking about the
larger scale. I'm saying, on this end, you might have
a guy who might be out of the league, so
it's the last couple of bucks he's making off of that,
And and then to your point, coaches and executives who
might be able to go and buy the better seats,
et cetera. So yeah, it's it's a topic. We continue
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going through this. It's not the most egregious. That's also
the you know to me when it gets you get
down to it. Capitalism when it comes to these things,
if you have the opportunity to buy him, Like if
I want to go to a concert and then I don't,
should I just give him away to someone at face value?
If there's worth three times what I paid for him
by time the consorts coming up.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
When I find out I can't go, they'll make a
botload of money.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Go make your own cash. Right?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Is it because I'm not an NFL player that suddenly
your tone and tenor change there?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Ernie Spaniard, we'll talk.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
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Speaker 4 (18:54):
Watching absolute lunacy in that A's Astros game. Nick Kurtz
many four home runs on the night, just hammered a
ball to the deepest part of the ballpark, double off
the wall, anywhere else that's in the third deck.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
What are seven for seven? Now?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
He's a monster? Yeah, you want to buy some cards.
Welcome back in Jason SMITHYO with me and Mike Carmon
already Span you're in for Jason Smith tonight as we're
watching some great Major League baseball action. We were talking
a little last night with Dan Byer some of the
throwback caps and uniforms you've got going on there for
Nick Kurtz. If you're in a daily fantasy league, he
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may have just won you your week, no question about it.
What a monster game for him.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I'm watching the met game. Mets are up six to
one two.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Look at you with your Mets.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah looking good today?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, just absolute insanity right now when we're looking at
Kurtz and what he's been able to do, and just
over the course of the night, just hammering the ball
left and right, and nobody's feeling bad for the Astros.
All right again, Rob Manford going back years, screwed all
that up. And while I'm not as vehemently going after
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him as our buddy Ben Mallard does, I'm not too
far behind when it comes to lack of leadership in
the process. But we celebrate Major League Baseball. As I
heard on the Dodger broadcast as I was driving around
a little bit earlier. I mean, we're talking sixty six
days left in your regular season.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
That's it. Sixty six more days.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
That's all you got, right, And now we're within a
week of the first NFL game of your season.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
NFL, as far as Uginson starts on the Hall of
Fame game, not Week one of the preseason, not when
everybody reports the camp, not Week one of the NFL
regular season, but the Hall of Fame game marks the
start of the NFL season. We got that on Thursday.
I'm all in it, like it's like it's a super Bowl,
you know what I mean. I get in front of it,
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I'm watching it. Then after the first quarter, I'm like, Okay,
I had enough. I don't know who the rest of
these players are. I'm just gonna move on to some.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Well, it's like you're just beginning your training, right, so
you can't go like if you're.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Going for one of the diet Look, man, if you're going.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
To the marathon, you can't run all twenty six to
the first day out.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
No you can't. You can't.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Hey, you're just not and you're not built for that. Likewise,
watching three hours of the Hall of Fame game, our
buddy Justin Prosberg, our executive producer, he'll be there ready
and to cover that and go through the process. Antonio
Gates going in. This is a year that if the
schedule had worked out, some stuff with the kids and
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some responsibilities, going for Steve McMichael would have been, you know,
my run. But you know I've already commissioned him to
buy me any and all merchandise related to those Bears
and of course the Four Horsemen, because we celebrate all
things pop culture and wrestling on this show as well.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I would have liked to go on to that. I
know you said earlier you went to the Baseball Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You've been to the Hall of fame induction ceremonies a
couple of times, and I've.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Lived right through it. I've driven right back.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'll tell you what. Cooperstown, well, you know what. Stop
to get out and smell the roses.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But during induction week, you want to talk about a celebration.
And it's one of those things that I encourage. Here's
your public service announcement where I sound like nostalgic old
man of hey remember when. But when you can get
all those guys together, right, the living players come back
and there's a lot of autograph signings. Yes, you'll pay
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more for the more recent inductees. Why they made more
money and to get them to cross the street, it's
gonna cost a little bit more. But for the veterans
that are still showing up setting up a card table.
One of my favorite memories. I've got the All Century team.
They put out a coffee table book. It was fifty bucks.
My brother had an opportunity. They did three big signings.
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It was Willie Mays and Hank Aaron together.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
So he goes to Chicago and he's able to get
a book for himself and he gets me one.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Oh correct, And so I have it I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Looking and it's great, right. So it's chronicling the five tools,
all the great pictures, the roster for each position, all
of that, some great quotes and whatever, and I decided.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I just sold the pizza, like the bitcoin guy.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Hey hey, hey, hey, no no no, no, Well, I mean
look at the time, and even now you still have
votes saying hey, go buy your pizza instead of keeping
the bitcoin. We're not going to have that conversation here.
All I know is right now, the value of a
bitcoin is pretty healthy if you look at the marketplace
these days. But the point being that we moved out
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to the upstate New York for a while. My ex
wife had a job with the GE Research Center in Schenectady, Niskyyuna,
And that meant Cooperstown was just a hop, skip and
a throw. And they had a lot of movie nights
and seminars through the year surrounding different parts of the collection,
and I got to know people, so you got to
see extra parts of the collections.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
But every year during induction week, all these guys come
back and they have deals with local restaurants and some
of the other training card shops, and then the hotels
would have a larger conference, you know, to where you'd
have a lot of signings, plus you know, a baseball
card convention and whatever. But for a lot of these guys,
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when I started getting the book signed and I'm now
up to maybe thirty eight thirty nine signatures, well no, no, no,
so like it was the All Century team. So I
mean there's one hundred guys. Plus there's a lot of
photos of guys who weren't part of the you know,
one hundred, but encapsulated something as one of those skills, right,
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but either way, So I decided to make it my
project where I could meet these guys, and as I
can afford it, I'd go and add them to the list.
My favorite was sitting for a half hour as Yogi
bearra ate a bowl of soup with me being through
and telling me stories. Now this was before I was
doing all the time, right this before I'm doing full
time radio, and I didn't have a recorder with me.
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I didn't have any of that stuff, so I just
listened to the tales and some of the interactions Through
the years.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Where are some of my.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Most cherished memories of going with these guys that played
in the fifties and sixties, the guys they didn't like.
They'd start telling you stories of you know, the hazing
or how they'd go after these guys and near fights
and bars in any town, USA. And so it's one
of my cherished possessions. But the idea being that you
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have the opportunity to go meet these people, right the
games that you love and what we do for a living.
Look in the end, anytime I hear someone protests they're
not a fan of a team, they're a liar, because
that's what got.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Them into this business, right, right.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
They may try to push it to the background and say, well,
I'm really a big fan of this player or whatever. No, no, no,
there's still that team that that's the first that they
look for in the list of games scores, that's the
first box score that they go in perus and all
of that stuff. And anybody that's telling you that is
selling you a bill of goods in this business or.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Somewhere.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They may have just lost the love of the game,
and that little boy died or or young girl died,
Little Johnny and Susie, that that inner piece has lost.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
It's great when you could do that though, that's a
good story man, I bet you had some good stories
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Was great.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Well, here's here's one that I've told before, but it's
new to you. We'll get to the NFLPA union bit,
but you know, memory Lane and as we're celebrating the
Hall of Fame and the pageantry and what we love
about it, both for Major League Baseball this week and
for the Hall of Fame game, they do the similar
stuff in Canton, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But at one point I was at going to a
signing up.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
In the Bay Area, and for whatever reason, the agent
that was negotiating for those players, they were all under
the same agency, he wouldn't sign sign off on whatever
the commitment was, right, So they don't have photos. So
their names are in these lists, right, all right, here's
the relief pictures. Boom, here's this, and I go and
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Barry Bonds was doing a signing and he didn't do
many of those at all, and whatever reputation, that's neither
here nor there. But he was there and he was
a little more expensive, but not exorbitant.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
So I got him to sign a couple of things,
including the book, and he was great.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
He flipped through the book too, like he thought it
was interesting as hell, right, so he.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Was great, like because because it was something he hadn't
signed before. So it's fine. So I get him and
then I go into Raleigh Fingers. He's one of the guys.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
He's in there, but there's no photo of him and
he and he screams back and I can't even say
it on the air. What he screams back his agent
who's back to Hey, Blanke and he Blanke get over
here and he gumes up. He goes, hey, is the book?
Remember you wouldn't sign this? Guys, look at it. Flip it,
go ahead, flip it. And I flipped it and it's
a giant picture of Goose Gossage and he starts cursing.
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But because his reaction of calling his agent over, every
other guy that's up there signing, they stop and they
put their sharpies down and they come and they want
to see what the.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Hell is going on, and I'm like, well, it's you.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
It's a page.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
But this is early enough to where we didn't have
the camera phones with it. But like, so there's several
guys where I just had to explain. It's like, well, yeah,
I just need you to sign where your name's missed
it versus a photo. So there's this giant ass picture
of Eckersley and then Gossage, but there's no photo of
Raleigh signed it beautifully. He's always had great and he's
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a collector of trading guards or whatever. But it's funny,
like you've got a few of those guys from the
Bay area or the top it off there.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I have to go back through the list, but I've
got a word list and I'll either buy checks for
the guys that are deceased, or or I'll have to
make the pilgrimage or trust that the book comes back
from some of the charitable RIGA much.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Did you get for that book?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That's a good question. I don't know a number of
the guys that passed.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
The last guy I added was actually at a show
last year right before he passed.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Oh yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Sweet as could be his daughter and we had a
nice conversation about it. I asked him about giving the
rules that they changed regarding stolen base I go, what
do you think? And he looked at it and he goes,
I can answer right, I go, yeah, it's just you
me in the wall. He goes, dude two hundred, without
thinking about it, are you kidding me? If they can't
hold me, if they can't hold me by these rules,
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and do the throwover or step off, come on, easy
as cake. And then he signed it and he started
flipping through it as well. He thought it was cool.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
So somebody gave us a stot on Ricky Henderson that
I just don't believe.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
On Twitter? George says, and he said this in a
while ago. It's funny you brought him up. Ricky Henderson
broke up eighty one maybe more no hitters with a
home run. That can't be possible. That can't be fun,
That can't.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Well, no, no, no, you know what those are? Leadoff
home runs, Arenie.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Oh that's right, that's right. Good call. I wasn't thinking
like that. Oh that is a good call. He has
that many. Oh wow, look at.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
That, because I watched the exasperation over at the news desk.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Come on, man, I think it's the perfect Yeah, but
I'm thinking like eighth inning or something. Don't bring it
to saga.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Perfect segue to bringing a man with a giant mallet.
He may have mole near like he's thor ready to
way the hammer down on you.
Speaker 9 (30:44):
I was.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
No.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
We are all celebrating what went on tonight.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
It was one of the.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Greatest offensive performances in Major League history tonight, and it
occurred off the bat of a rookie for the A's.
Nick Kurtz hit four home runs at Houston in a
fifteen to three victory. He's twenty two years old, by
far the youngest of those who've had four homer games
in Major league history. He went six for six, eight RBIs,
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six runs scored. Since nineteen hundred, the only other guy
that had had a six for six game that included
four homers was the Dodgers Shawn Green in two thousand
and two. One of my favorite guys that was, to me,
the greatest offensive performance was the modern Bass after times.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Wow. Just it put this in perspective.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
There have been twenty five perfect games pitched. If you
include Armando Galarraga of the Tigers.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Here you go, we'll add him.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
That's twenty five. There have only been twenty times there's
been a four homer game. This is more rare than
a perfect game. What happened tonight, and the thing is,
it's happened twice this season because in late April, the
Diamondbacks au Hennio Suarez, who might be on the trading block.
Over the next week, he had a four homer game
against the Braves, and his fourth home run that night
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tied the game in the ninth. They wound up losing
in extra innings. I do remember when the Diamondbacks had J. D.
Martinez late in the twenty seventeen season at Dodger Stadium
against an LA team.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That wound up winning the Pennant that year.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
He wound up with a four homer game because he
had a solo homer in the seventh, a solo homer
in the eighth, and a two run homer in the
ninth for numbers two, three, and four.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
King got to be on that list, right, Dave Kingman's
got to be there.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
He's certainly on the four strikeout three on the extra
ning game where somebody asked less, Well not somebody, Paul
Olden asked Tony Lasorda afterwards.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
When you think of.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Kingman's his performance, he hid, Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You know Tommy Lasorna's factor.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Get into our show last night, how we celebrated the
life and times of Hulk Hogan because he was the
guest ring announcer for WrestleMania two in Los What Hogan
faced Bundy in the Steel Case.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
That was about the time Tommy was appearing on the
Baseball Bunch on the weekend Intigration show.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
That was him and Johnny in the San Diego Chicken.
So what's his Ted? I forget his last name?
Speaker 9 (33:15):
He also Ted Genilis. He also appeared on the On
a Hehaw episode Tommy. They made sure to play that
at Dodger Stadium in time or two. But Nick Kurtz
the hero of the evening and then some four home
runs A's win fifteen to three at Houston.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We only have two other games going on.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
The Mets are leading six to one at San Francisco
at the top of the fifth, and the Mariners have
a couple of solo shots from Julio Rodriguez. They're tied
two to two in Anaheim against the Angels. Bottom of
the seven. Saint Louis shut out the Padres three nothing.
Dodgers were five two winners at Boston. LA Outfielder Mookie
Betts ex of Boston out for personal reasons. Reportedly he
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was in his hometown and will join the team tomorrow night.
In Massachusetts, White Sox twelve five winners against the Cubs.
Toronto won again six to two at Detroit. The Tigers
have lost five in a row. Philadelphia, you got two
more homers from Kyle Schwarbury has thirty six twelve five.
The Phillies beat the Yankees in New York.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Today.
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Miami won at Milwaukee five to one. The Bengals signed
first round pass rusher Schamar Stewart to a reported guaranteed deal.
In a concession, Stewart gets more of his signing bonus
up front. He was the last of the unsigned first rounders.
Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson will miss part of camp
with a strained hamstring said to be mild. In the WNBA,
New York one again, Minnesota one again. In fact, the
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Minnesota Links are twenty two to four after beating Las Vegas.
A reminder This Sunday on Fox TV, Indy Cars at
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in the IndyCar season. And Sunday the women's soccer euro
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defending World Cup champion against England, which won the last
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euro tournament.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Back to you, Steve, like all of the games when
Paul Ski dominates and all have anybody started taking Nick
Kurtz and putting him in Yankee or Dodger uniforms yet
on Twitter already? Yes, after half a season. Half a season,
he's twenty two years old. Hey, you barely.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
Played in the minors last year after he got drafted
he is.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I mean, sure, okay, fun to watch, man.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
We love watching these these young guys come up as
we're talking, interspersed with the talk of legends. Thanks so
much as Steve Disager at the news desk keeping an
eye on everything for us as we continue.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Thanks for the little trip down memory lane.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Always good to go into story time and reminds me
I got to get back to adding more of those
guys to the book. I'll send photos and I'll put
them up at Swollen Dome. That'll that'll be a fun
little task. I just can't let you know from a
geo tracker where I live because otherwise someone's coming for
that book and everything else.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I own safe.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah, exactly all that to say at Swollen Dome, at
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Speaker 3 (36:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
We got the ticket issue that we'll fight more about
in the second half of the show. But in the interim,
let's talk more. The head of the PA resigned. You
got chaos ensuing, and now more potential problems on the way.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
What are they?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
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we've got the PA scandal, the next round of it
last week, a lot of conversation, and you and Plank
would have covered this as well. About a strip club
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and about of car service or whatever else. Those are
like small amounts of money, So if someone's finding those
line items, you can be damn sure they're gonna find
some others. So now you've got a federal investigation into
the next level that includes potential criminal actions and including
the misuse of funds and the self enrichment of union officials.
(38:10):
According to a confidential a document that was obtained by ESPN.
A memo title quote crisis Management was drafted by a
union attorney and shared with the executive Committee and player
reps during this past week. So now they're going back
into questions of unfair business practices, the lapse of fiduciary
(38:33):
duty oversight practice. That's where it gets fun. Right, there's
people that can manage your money, and then there are
people called fiduciaries. As you go through and you try to.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Man it's not like money laundering or inside sources or anything,
or inside trading or anything like that, right.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Well, but what it is is you're not being responsible
with the money, rightiary.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
More of a conflict of interest because.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Right legal or ethical relationship of trust with one or
more parties typically it's you're you're trusted with them. So
like you're a football player, you trust that the people
that are running your union, running your shop, and who
are managing your money are working in your best interest,
i e. Not working for ownership, which is one of
(39:16):
the problem, right or exactly or funneling money wrongly in
terms of fees, like there's a.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Million companies or they may be involved with them, correct.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Which is one of the problems you had with Lloyd
Howell to begin with talking about private equity on the
ownership ownership side of face, how.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Long has this been going on?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
But that but that's the larger question I have, because
it's a question, uh that whatever any of these union
uh issues is, particularly with the NFL, have come up.
And I've I've had plenty of animated discussions with some
of our colleagues that are former players. You know, the
dissemination of information is always spotty at best. It's I'll
(39:58):
go with what the group does. I'll go with your recommend.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Whereas your checks and balances, where's the you know, the secondary,
the third people checking them, Where's where's people overlooking people
overlooking people? It's not just one group of people in charge.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well, but that's the right.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
You have your team reps, you go into you know,
funnel that up to your executive committees and up to
the person you elect as the head. Before it was
Demorris Smith, and for years we chronicled him getting beaten
like a drum at the negotiating table right by Roger Goodell.
And I've talked about it, you know, and we brought
it up a little bit earlier. Right, you just have
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that large divide between what people making sixty million dollars
a year, your quarterbacks, your pass rushers, whatever, and the
guys that are trying to hang on, right, that might
not get their second contract, might not finish that first year, right,
and voting rights and their responsibilities and what they're looking
for for the union is going to be vastly different.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Tom Brady with several hundred million dollars in the bank
and Giselle Bunchin as his wife at the time, his
consideration's much different.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Right, So Thursday night football, because you know, you get
pay each player gets like two hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
No, but that's the thing, right, you make all these
concessions in exchange for one extra day off right right, right,
or one fewer padded practice here and there. Well, but
that's like all of those things. And I think the
game has been worse for a lot of it. And
I don't think that's that's an arguable point. I think
we watch it every September that it looks like you're
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still scrimmaging, or at least one side looks decidedly worse
and less organized than the other. So now you have
the question. You have this Lloyd Howell scandal. You have
this coming out? Now, how far back does this go?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
To talk about Demorris Smith, He's got a book out
about his experiences. I haven't walked right through it at
this point, but you know, how much was you were duped?
And how much is all right? Everybody kind of knew
what was going on and are willing complicit? And I'm
not accusing him that. I'm like, I just want to know,
like where we are in the process. You know, did
this start? Because it can't just be a two to
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three year thing.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
No, And we need people to say, you know, when
we do the investigation, we need to find out who's guilty,
They need to be punished, we need to figure out
how long is this going to take? Too?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Well, But that's but that's the other side though. Arnie
is like, how far do you have to clean this out?
And if you're a you were a player, rep, I
gotta imagine your phone's been ringing it awful lot and
guys are cornering you in the locker room as camps
came underway this year. Crazy stuff. But tell you what,
let's go back into the practice. I want you to
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Speaker 4 (00:29):
Greetings and welcome in hour two of the program, Mike
Harmon alongside Arnie Span You're in for Jason Smith. Tonight,
Smith out Gallivantik in the Greater State of Michigan. So
if you see him out there, a guy in a
Mets Syracuse Nix hybrid. Funny, they're all the same colors,
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so you can just mix and match. Don't really have
to do a whole lot with your wardrobe there. But
if you see him at how about a Fresco, point
him out and send send notes our way. He's probably
outside of another white castle. As we see.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
He loves Detroit, loves the vacation there.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Well, you know, kid rock One's saying, Arnie, if Heaven
ain't a lot like Detroit, I don't want to go.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
That's what I was just about to say.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
We are you gonna start singing it to me like
fire on the Mountain? Is that where we go? Look,
we got some budding scandals in the National Football League,
plenty of chaos there between the Union and now another
issue that is a squeers head. But first, I mean,
in the update that Steve de Sager just gave you,
I mean it, we'd be remiss if we didn't celebrate
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the fact that Kurtz has gone six for six with
eight RBI for the A's and a fifteen to two
rout of the Astros with four home runs.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Now his stat line if you bring it up, well
you know you're conjuring evil. Six at bats, six runs
scored in six hits. That's the way it reads in
the box score before you get to the eight RBI
and four home runs. But four home run games. I mean,
we just do not see this every.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Everyone seen it. Break up, sure, break up the record.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
We have four one game, sure, sure, sure, I'm trying
to thank Michael jack Schmid I think has one in
his history.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
There you go, it's going to be a short list.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Well, I also know that if I give it and
let it breathe long enough, we're going to have Steve
de Sager is going to know those guys.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Know he's a wizard. We've had this conversation before.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
According to a quick review, we've had nineteen instances in
the history of Major League Baseball before tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Four home one games. Yep, GETI with Suarez. Hugenio uh, Henio, Henny.
I'm trying to channel my inner Manci Milanas because she
said it just so brilliantly.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
He is much better than well then, look she's got
that down.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
He did it this year. I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, so he did do this chair, But I mean,
you've got some of the all time greats that have
done it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Willie Mays did it.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Bob Horner, one of the classic guys from the Braves
back in the day, guy who made me believe I
could be a big baseball player. Why because I was
big and a baseball player and then I stopped growing.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm a short little man.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Michael Schmidt and Michael Jack Schmidt, Gil Hodges, lu gerrig
Ed Delahanty, will Yeah, No.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean some legends there.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
I mean it's certainly not happening a lot recently, but
nineteen times before tonight in the history of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
We celebrate the rarity. It's like the other night right.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Where you have the catcher's interference and a walk off
that hadn't happened since nineteen seventy one when it happened
against Johnny Bench. Oh my, so you know you're seeing
like baseball. We talk about it a lot. Jason and I.
He had a conversation back when he used to do
an evening show at the Other the Other Shop, and
(04:01):
Jason Stark said, look, every night you watch baseball, uh
you're gonna see something you may not have seen before,
or uh, something that maybe only your grandparents had seen.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
And ever tonight we give you a little of that you.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Ever do like unbreakable records in baseball, or like I
mean the.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Rby You want to do some list radio?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
No, I just know, but I mean, just you know,
just just's some that just like back to back no hitters.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I saw a guy just sell a cut signature of
Johnny vandermir On on Twitter just the other day. Could
got a hundred bucks for it. Was I'm an old man,
you look young, I look spry. I'm a powerful and
attractive man. But I am old and I am learning,
you know what, you know what.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
I'm surprised has stood all this time as Hack Wilson's
RBI record. You would think that somebody like Judge just
would have put a you know.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The way the well.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
But you had a lot, Yeah, but you had a
lot of solo meaningless home runs in the back end
of games. It just turns off cub just to tie
tie it to Hack Wilson.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Nobody's gotten close on that, to be honest, I mean,
they haven't really gotten close.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well that's a tough one though, right, I mean, because
you go back, if you look at the National League
for many, many years, you had essentially three automatic outs
in most lineups. The pitcher of the second basement and
the catcher were all light hitting individuals. And you can
go back and you have outlier years where there were
great lineups or you had a second basement like the
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Cubs and Ryan sand But but now you might have
a little bit more to where hey, this should make sense,
you've got more. But all of that to say, you
still have a lot of light hitters, I mean, and
then we've got three outcomes and a lot of strikeouts.
Not many guys draw walks with great frequency, going up,
(05:52):
grip it and rip it kind of thing, as if
they were happy Gilmore.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Uh so you gotta so you've got that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So you've got a lot of free swingers, which means, look,
you were watching team batting averages plumbing year over year
every year.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
That's scared too Major league.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But what in the National teak as last week right
you had Will Smith was the only guy hitting over
three hundred.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
There was that stat that you'll still Smith the catcher,
about two fifty hitters. Where what was it like ten
fifteen years ago? You'll have just about every team has
you know, had so many two fits about at least
two fifty or higher. Now team batting there's like only
what four or five teams above two fits. This is
horrible the way hitting has gotten just absolutely and we
(06:38):
grew up or baseball had some some of the best
hitters we've ever seen in our life, you know, like
Tony Gwenn and Rod Carew and people George Brett, people
like these were like the best hitters in the history
of the game compared to what we have now.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well, but look at what you just did. You just
went and pulled the best of the best, like any
football well you.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Know Brady or Mahome.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeahs, like you picked four of the greatest hitters the
game has ever seen. We don't have those guys, like,
of course we don't have those guys. Those guys, those
guys are unicorns.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah. Well, Tody Guynn was just doesn'believe.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, one of the nicest guys. He's sitting talk
to that guy forever.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
The stats you can give him about his strikeouts in
his career compared to strikeouts now is just mind body.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, to put.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
A little pin in this and to give you some
of the historical precedent because you brought up the RBI
in a single season. So curiosity, you know, killed the cat.
But gets Harmon to start clicking he clacken while you talk.
Is you got Hack Wilson at one ninety one, Luke
Garrett goes one eighty five, Hank Greenberg now and then.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Look we'll look where we're going. We're going on a
hundred years ago, right, Jimmy Fox.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Another couple of lou Garret seasons where he hit one hundred,
had one hundred and seventy three and twenty seven and
thirty Kline going back again, Jimmy Fox, Greenberg again, then
Babe Ruth comes in in nineteen twenty one, one hundred
and sixty eight. The most recent guy that cracked the
top twenty, The only guy recent to crack the top
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twenty was Manny Ramirez in nineteen ninety nine had one.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Hundred and sixty five.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
The next closest two thousand and one, Sammy Sosa had
one hundred and sixty and then Sosa again in nineteen
ninety eight, that magical year had one hundred and fifty eight.
Ajan Gonzalez season, we're on bays.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
People were getting walked ahead of them, so they were,
you know, are getting walked behind them.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I'll tell you what that ninety eight season, man, you
want to talk about fun and baseball. And I was
at Cooperstown and they had a giant day by day scoreboard,
and that was when Ken Griffy Junior was still part
of that race with McGuire and Sosa, and they over
the loud speakers were playing every one of their at bats.
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So as soon as all right.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
He did, we have it on the TV. They were
breaking in to see that.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Oh absolutely, I mean, it just captivated a nation, and
then all the guys that got fat and rich and
happy were the first to say, well, those journey rotten crooks,
keep them away from Cooperstown and everything I hold here,
the sanctity of the game. It's like, wait, where were
you in ninety eight when these guys showed up looking
like they were straight out of.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
A Marvel movie after one off season? Any loved it?
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Man?
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Yeah, but we loved it right.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I mean, look, then they had the braves pitchers with
the chicks dig the long ball commercials and everything else.
But hey, we've got a big scandal in the National
Football League, and I know you you love scandal as
much as anybody. We'll get to the union part of
it in a minute. But the NFL was fining roughly
one hundred players and two dozen club employees for violating
(09:50):
the league policy by selling Super Bowl fifty nine tickets
for above face value. This coming from the Associated Press
they was selling two said the players who resold them
will have to pay a fine of one and a
half times the face value they paid.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Oooo.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
What a deterrent, since.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
They made far more than one and a half times
the face value. Have you ever gone into the secondary
market or a Super Bowl as a guy who paid
through the nose to take by then father in law
to the game between the Packers and Steelers in Big D.
We're talking three and a half to four times your
face value. And that's even folks in a fire sale
(10:31):
desperation moment. Club employees who violated the policy will be
fined two times face value.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Memo sent out.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
The league still completing its investigation, but this goes back.
We saw this years ago. Mike Tice, right, offensive line coach,
coach coordinator, all of those things. He had gotten in
trouble for it because he had a nice little business
running tickets through And look, it's part of the policy, right.
There's no betting on base that's in the clubhouse, no
(11:03):
betting on your team, fantasy leagues, there's different rules all
of those kind of things. But according to the CBA,
players on all thirty two teams they can purchase two
tickets for the Super Bowl. And they're enhancing the mandatory
compliance training regarding the policy for all personnel, emphasizing the
specific requirements of the policy and the broader principle that
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no one should profit personally from their NFL affiliation at
the expense of our fans.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Right, right, So some people could understand what's going on here.
Players and coaches are allowed to purchase tickets for the
Super Bowl, whether they're playing in it or not. So
these players, coaches, administrators, whatever they were, decided I'm going
to purchase two tickets and they get it at face value, right, So, Mike,
what is face value on these tickets? Do you known't
(11:52):
off to.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Take anywhere between maybe six fifty and several thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
So they get in.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Is paper and they do a lottery for so many
tickets or whatever, where someone Joe and Susie Q public
may get to buy a few. And then you've got
people that have media affiliations also for responsibilities, will be
allotted the ability to buy tickets as well, and they're
under the same perview.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Right right. So you buy a pair of tickets, let's
say a thousand dollars a piece, and you sell them
to a broker for five thousand dollars apiece and your
pocket the money. How egregious is that, especially if you're
a player or a coach where you're making millions on
top of millions of dollars and you're really sticking it
to the fans who have to pay that exorbitant price
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in the secondary market. It's a big blank you to
the fans. It is so disgusting. If you're going to
buy two seats, hey, how about doing something right with it?
How about giving it to a super fan of your team,
or donate it to charity or who knows, do whatever.
You will, give it to friends or family. But to
go ahead and make money off it and put it
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in your pocket, I mean, how desperate you have to
be when you're already a millionaire. I think I think
it's horrible they do something like that, Mike, I think
it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wow, do you need a hug on a Friday?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
You're on the other side of that. I don't care
what the market is, what the market will bear, and
you're around a millionaire.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
No, no, no, don't do that, because that means if
I've got five bucks, I shouldn't have six. If I've
got a million, I can't keep working towards the next million.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
So let me just get this right. I got fired
from my job. I'm not working. You're a gazillionaire and
you don't want to buy me lunch Okay, I can
see the kind of person you are. Then right, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
If you if you need some help. I'm not saying
I'm not working.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I don't have a job. Come on, man, you know what,
pull your head out of here, you know what? Come on, man,
these these guys make millions of dollars and they why.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Not everybody makes millions of dollars two. You don't know
someone's financial responsibility. You better get the hangers on that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
And then I don't care who do right? This is?
Come on, that's wrong that don't buy two tickets?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
No, no, it's the look, it's the policy as stated.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
But in terms of do I think on the grand scale,
this is some egregious, horrible thing. No, you made a
couple of bucks on a couple of tickets.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
That's not the point. The point is it was a
big blank you to the fans.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Are a lot of those tickets you might have sold
them to your buddies.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Well you know what, that league doesn't know that. How
many other employees or players did that?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
What kind of nice guy are you if you say
to your buddies, I'm gonna have to make a couple
one hundred dollars on you when you know you could
have just charge them face value as you're already a millionaires.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well, your buddy really wanted to go to the game,
you could go pay five thousand. There you can get
them from me, uh for an extra cup of coffee.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Uh please.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
My point just being you can't You can't monitor every
one of those transactions. You can try, but in this
particular case, of all the things going on with the
league and he's leagues, this is far from the most
degregious you've got going on here. Now it might feel
a little slimy for you, but if I'm a guy
at the back end of a roster like we were
(15:09):
talking about earlier, right, I'm man number fifty three, and
I can make a couple extra bucks before I inevitably.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Get that's not who's doing it well.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
But in the absence of that, we're talking about the
larger scale. I'm saying, on this end, you might have
a guy who might be out of the league, so
it's the last couple of bucks he's making off of that,
And and then to your point, coaches and executives who
might be able to go and buy the better seats,
et cetera. So yeah, it's it's a topic. We continue
(15:40):
going through this. It's not the most egregious. That's also
the you know to me when it gets you get
down to it. Capitalism when it comes to these things,
if you have the opportunity to buy him, Like if
I want to go to a concert and then I don't,
should I just give him away to someone at face value?
If there's worth three times what I paid for him
by time the consorts coming up.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
When I find out I can't go, they'll make a
botload of money.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Go make your own cash. Right?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Is it because I'm not an NFL player that suddenly
your tone and tenor change there?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Ernie Spaniard, we'll talk.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
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Speaker 4 (18:54):
Watching absolute lunacy in that A's Astros game. Nick Kurtz
many four home runs on the night, just hammered a
ball to the deepest part of the ballpark, double off
the wall, anywhere else that's in the third deck.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
What are seven for seven? Now?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
He's a monster? Yeah, you want to buy some cards.
Welcome back in Jason SMITHYO with me and Mike Carmon
already Span you're in for Jason Smith tonight as we're
watching some great Major League baseball action. We were talking
a little last night with Dan Byer some of the
throwback caps and uniforms you've got going on there for
Nick Kurtz. If you're in a daily fantasy league, he
(19:33):
may have just won you your week, no question about it.
What a monster game for him.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I'm watching the met game. Mets are up six to
one two.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Look at you with your Mets.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah looking good today?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, just absolute insanity right now when we're looking at
Kurtz and what he's been able to do, and just
over the course of the night, just hammering the ball
left and right, and nobody's feeling bad for the Astros.
All right again, Rob Manford going back years, screwed all
that up. And while I'm not as vehemently going after
(20:07):
him as our buddy Ben Mallard does, I'm not too
far behind when it comes to lack of leadership in
the process. But we celebrate Major League Baseball. As I
heard on the Dodger broadcast as I was driving around
a little bit earlier. I mean, we're talking sixty six
days left in your regular season.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
That's it. Sixty six more days.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
That's all you got, right, And now we're within a
week of the first NFL game of your season.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
NFL, as far as Uginson starts on the Hall of
Fame game, not Week one of the preseason, not when
everybody reports the camp, not Week one of the NFL
regular season, but the Hall of Fame game marks the
start of the NFL season. We got that on Thursday.
I'm all in it, like it's like it's a super Bowl,
you know what I mean. I get in front of it,
(21:00):
I'm watching it. Then after the first quarter, I'm like, Okay,
I had enough. I don't know who the rest of
these players are. I'm just gonna move on to some.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Well, it's like you're just beginning your training, right, so
you can't go like if you're.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Going for one of the diet Look, man, if you're going.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
To the marathon, you can't run all twenty six to
the first day out.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
No you can't. You can't.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Hey, you're just not and you're not built for that. Likewise,
watching three hours of the Hall of Fame game, our
buddy Justin Prosberg, our executive producer, he'll be there ready
and to cover that and go through the process. Antonio
Gates going in. This is a year that if the
schedule had worked out, some stuff with the kids and
(21:38):
some responsibilities, going for Steve McMichael would have been, you know,
my run. But you know I've already commissioned him to
buy me any and all merchandise related to those Bears
and of course the Four Horsemen, because we celebrate all
things pop culture and wrestling on this show as well.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
I would have liked to go on to that. I
know you said earlier you went to the Baseball Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You've been to the Hall of fame induction ceremonies a
couple of times, and I've.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Lived right through it. I've driven right back.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'll tell you what. Cooperstown, well, you know what. Stop
to get out and smell the roses.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But during induction week, you want to talk about a celebration.
And it's one of those things that I encourage. Here's
your public service announcement where I sound like nostalgic old
man of hey remember when. But when you can get
all those guys together, right, the living players come back
and there's a lot of autograph signings. Yes, you'll pay
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more for the more recent inductees. Why they made more
money and to get them to cross the street, it's
gonna cost a little bit more. But for the veterans
that are still showing up setting up a card table.
One of my favorite memories. I've got the All Century team.
They put out a coffee table book. It was fifty bucks.
My brother had an opportunity. They did three big signings.
(22:55):
It was Willie Mays and Hank Aaron together.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
So he goes to Chicago and he's able to get
a book for himself and he gets me one.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
Oh correct, And so I have it I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Looking and it's great, right. So it's chronicling the five tools,
all the great pictures, the roster for each position, all
of that, some great quotes and whatever, and I decided.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
I just sold the pizza, like the bitcoin guy.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Hey hey, hey, hey, no no no, no, Well, I mean
look at the time, and even now you still have
votes saying hey, go buy your pizza instead of keeping
the bitcoin. We're not going to have that conversation here.
All I know is right now, the value of a
bitcoin is pretty healthy if you look at the marketplace
these days. But the point being that we moved out
(23:37):
to the upstate New York for a while. My ex
wife had a job with the GE Research Center in Schenectady, Niskyyuna,
And that meant Cooperstown was just a hop, skip and
a throw. And they had a lot of movie nights
and seminars through the year surrounding different parts of the collection,
and I got to know people, so you got to
see extra parts of the collections.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
But every year during induction week, all these guys come
back and they have deals with local restaurants and some
of the other training card shops, and then the hotels
would have a larger conference, you know, to where you'd
have a lot of signings, plus you know, a baseball
card convention and whatever. But for a lot of these guys,
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when I started getting the book signed and I'm now
up to maybe thirty eight thirty nine signatures, well no, no, no,
so like it was the All Century team. So I
mean there's one hundred guys. Plus there's a lot of
photos of guys who weren't part of the you know,
one hundred, but encapsulated something as one of those skills, right,
(24:46):
but either way, So I decided to make it my
project where I could meet these guys, and as I
can afford it, I'd go and add them to the list.
My favorite was sitting for a half hour as Yogi
bearra ate a bowl of soup with me being through
and telling me stories. Now this was before I was
doing all the time, right this before I'm doing full
time radio, and I didn't have a recorder with me.
(25:09):
I didn't have any of that stuff, so I just
listened to the tales and some of the interactions Through
the years.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Where are some of my.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Most cherished memories of going with these guys that played
in the fifties and sixties, the guys they didn't like.
They'd start telling you stories of you know, the hazing
or how they'd go after these guys and near fights
and bars in any town, USA. And so it's one
of my cherished possessions. But the idea being that you
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have the opportunity to go meet these people, right the
games that you love and what we do for a living.
Look in the end, anytime I hear someone protests they're
not a fan of a team, they're a liar, because
that's what got.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Them into this business, right, right.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
They may try to push it to the background and say, well,
I'm really a big fan of this player or whatever. No, no, no,
there's still that team that that's the first that they
look for in the list of games scores, that's the
first box score that they go in perus and all
of that stuff. And anybody that's telling you that is
selling you a bill of goods in this business or.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Somewhere.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
They may have just lost the love of the game,
and that little boy died or or young girl died,
Little Johnny and Susie, that that inner piece has lost.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
It's great when you could do that though, that's a
good story man, I bet you had some good stories
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Was great.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Well, here's here's one that I've told before, but it's
new to you. We'll get to the NFLPA union bit,
but you know, memory Lane and as we're celebrating the
Hall of Fame and the pageantry and what we love
about it, both for Major League Baseball this week and
for the Hall of Fame game, they do the similar
stuff in Canton, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But at one point I was at going to a
signing up.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
In the Bay Area, and for whatever reason, the agent
that was negotiating for those players, they were all under
the same agency, he wouldn't sign sign off on whatever
the commitment was, right, So they don't have photos. So
their names are in these lists, right, all right, here's
the relief pictures. Boom, here's this, and I go and
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Barry Bonds was doing a signing and he didn't do
many of those at all, and whatever reputation, that's neither
here nor there. But he was there and he was
a little more expensive, but not exorbitant.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
So I got him to sign a couple of things,
including the book, and he was great.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
He flipped through the book too, like he thought it
was interesting as hell, right, so he.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Was great, like because because it was something he hadn't
signed before. So it's fine. So I get him and
then I go into Raleigh Fingers. He's one of the guys.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
He's in there, but there's no photo of him and
he and he screams back and I can't even say
it on the air. What he screams back his agent
who's back to Hey, Blanke and he Blanke get over
here and he gumes up. He goes, hey, is the book?
Remember you wouldn't sign this? Guys, look at it. Flip it,
go ahead, flip it. And I flipped it and it's
a giant picture of Goose Gossage and he starts cursing.
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But because his reaction of calling his agent over, every
other guy that's up there signing, they stop and they
put their sharpies down and they come and they want
to see what the.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Hell is going on, and I'm like, well, it's you.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
It's a page.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
But this is early enough to where we didn't have
the camera phones with it. But like, so there's several
guys where I just had to explain. It's like, well, yeah,
I just need you to sign where your name's missed
it versus a photo. So there's this giant ass picture
of Eckersley and then Gossage, but there's no photo of
Raleigh signed it beautifully. He's always had great and he's
(28:46):
a collector of trading guards or whatever. But it's funny,
like you've got a few of those guys from the
Bay area or the top it off there.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I have to go back through the list, but I've
got a word list and I'll either buy checks for
the guys that are deceased, or or I'll have to
make the pilgrimage or trust that the book comes back
from some of the charitable RIGA much.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Did you get for that book?
Speaker 3 (29:10):
That's a good question. I don't know a number of
the guys that passed.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
The last guy I added was actually at a show
last year right before he passed.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Ricky Henderson.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Oh yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Sweet as could be his daughter and we had a
nice conversation about it. I asked him about giving the
rules that they changed regarding stolen base I go, what
do you think? And he looked at it and he goes,
I can answer right, I go, yeah, it's just you
me in the wall. He goes, dude two hundred, without
thinking about it, are you kidding me? If they can't
hold me, if they can't hold me by these rules,
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and do the throwover or step off, come on, easy
as cake. And then he signed it and he started
flipping through it as well. He thought it was cool.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
So somebody gave us a stot on Ricky Henderson that
I just don't believe.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (29:54):
On Twitter? George says, and he said this in a
while ago. It's funny you brought him up. Ricky Henderson
broke up eighty one maybe more no hitters with a
home run. That can't be possible. That can't be fun,
That can't.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Well, no, no, no, you know what those are? Leadoff
home runs, Arenie.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Oh that's right, that's right. Good call. I wasn't thinking
like that. Oh that is a good call. He has
that many. Oh wow, look at.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
That, because I watched the exasperation over at the news desk.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Come on, man, I think it's the perfect Yeah, but
I'm thinking like eighth inning or something. Don't bring it
to saga.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Perfect segue to bringing a man with a giant mallet.
He may have mole near like he's thor ready to
way the hammer down on you.
Speaker 9 (30:44):
I was.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
No.
Speaker 9 (30:47):
We are all celebrating what went on tonight.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
It was one of the.
Speaker 9 (30:51):
Greatest offensive performances in Major League history tonight, and it
occurred off the bat of a rookie for the A's.
Nick Kurtz hit four home runs at Houston in a
fifteen to three victory. He's twenty two years old, by
far the youngest of those who've had four homer games
in Major league history. He went six for six, eight RBIs,
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six runs scored. Since nineteen hundred, the only other guy
that had had a six for six game that included
four homers was the Dodgers Shawn Green in two thousand
and two. One of my favorite guys that was, to me,
the greatest offensive performance was the modern Bass after times.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Wow. Just it put this in perspective.
Speaker 9 (31:38):
There have been twenty five perfect games pitched. If you
include Armando Galarraga of the Tigers.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Here you go, we'll add him.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
That's twenty five. There have only been twenty times there's
been a four homer game. This is more rare than
a perfect game. What happened tonight, and the thing is,
it's happened twice this season because in late April, the
Diamondbacks au Hennio Suarez, who might be on the trading block.
Over the next week, he had a four homer game
against the Braves, and his fourth home run that night
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tied the game in the ninth. They wound up losing
in extra innings. I do remember when the Diamondbacks had J. D.
Martinez late in the twenty seventeen season at Dodger Stadium
against an LA team.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That wound up winning the Pennant that year.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
He wound up with a four homer game because he
had a solo homer in the seventh, a solo homer
in the eighth, and a two run homer in the
ninth for numbers two, three, and four.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
King got to be on that list, right, Dave Kingman's
got to be there.
Speaker 9 (32:35):
He's certainly on the four strikeout three on the extra
ning game where somebody asked less, Well not somebody, Paul
Olden asked Tony Lasorda afterwards.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
When you think of.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Kingman's his performance, he hid, Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
You know Tommy Lasorna's factor.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Get into our show last night, how we celebrated the
life and times of Hulk Hogan because he was the
guest ring announcer for WrestleMania two in Los What Hogan
faced Bundy in the Steel Case.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
That was about the time Tommy was appearing on the
Baseball Bunch on the weekend Intigration show.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
That was him and Johnny in the San Diego Chicken.
So what's his Ted? I forget his last name?
Speaker 9 (33:15):
He also Ted Genilis. He also appeared on the On
a Hehaw episode Tommy. They made sure to play that
at Dodger Stadium in time or two. But Nick Kurtz
the hero of the evening and then some four home
runs A's win fifteen to three at Houston.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We only have two other games going on.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
The Mets are leading six to one at San Francisco
at the top of the fifth, and the Mariners have
a couple of solo shots from Julio Rodriguez. They're tied
two to two in Anaheim against the Angels. Bottom of
the seven. Saint Louis shut out the Padres three nothing.
Dodgers were five two winners at Boston. LA Outfielder Mookie
Betts ex of Boston out for personal reasons. Reportedly he
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was in his hometown and will join the team tomorrow night.
In Massachusetts, White Sox twelve five winners against the Cubs.
Toronto won again six to two at Detroit. The Tigers
have lost five in a row. Philadelphia, you got two
more homers from Kyle Schwarbury has thirty six twelve five.
The Phillies beat the Yankees in New York.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Today.
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Miami won at Milwaukee five to one. The Bengals signed
first round pass rusher Schamar Stewart to a reported guaranteed deal.
In a concession, Stewart gets more of his signing bonus
up front. He was the last of the unsigned first rounders.
Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson will miss part of camp
with a strained hamstring said to be mild. In the WNBA,
New York one again, Minnesota one again. In fact, the
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Minnesota Links are twenty two to four after beating Las Vegas.
A reminder This Sunday on Fox TV, Indy Cars at
Northern California's Road Course in Monterey. Just four races left
in the IndyCar season. And Sunday the women's soccer euro
finalists on Fox TV noon Eastern time. That's Spain, the
defending World Cup champion against England, which won the last
(34:56):
euro tournament.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Back to you, Steve, like all of the games when
Paul Ski dominates and all have anybody started taking Nick
Kurtz and putting him in Yankee or Dodger uniforms yet
on Twitter already? Yes, after half a season. Half a season,
he's twenty two years old. Hey, you barely.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
Played in the minors last year after he got drafted
he is.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I mean, sure, okay, fun to watch, man.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
We love watching these these young guys come up as
we're talking, interspersed with the talk of legends. Thanks so
much as Steve Disager at the news desk keeping an
eye on everything for us as we continue.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Thanks for the little trip down memory lane.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Always good to go into story time and reminds me
I got to get back to adding more of those
guys to the book. I'll send photos and I'll put
them up at Swollen Dome. That'll that'll be a fun
little task. I just can't let you know from a
geo tracker where I live because otherwise someone's coming for
that book and everything else.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I own safe.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Yeah, exactly all that to say at Swollen Dome, at
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Speaker 3 (36:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
We got the ticket issue that we'll fight more about
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let's talk more. The head of the PA resigned. You
got chaos ensuing, and now more potential problems on the way.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
What are they?
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we've got the PA scandal, the next round of it
last week, a lot of conversation, and you and Plank
would have covered this as well. About a strip club
(37:47):
and about of car service or whatever else. Those are
like small amounts of money, So if someone's finding those
line items, you can be damn sure they're gonna find
some others. So now you've got a federal investigation into
the next level that includes potential criminal actions and including
the misuse of funds and the self enrichment of union officials.
(38:10):
According to a confidential a document that was obtained by ESPN.
A memo title quote crisis Management was drafted by a
union attorney and shared with the executive Committee and player
reps during this past week. So now they're going back
into questions of unfair business practices, the lapse of fiduciary
(38:33):
duty oversight practice. That's where it gets fun. Right, there's
people that can manage your money, and then there are
people called fiduciaries. As you go through and you try to.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Man it's not like money laundering or inside sources or anything,
or inside trading or anything like that, right.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Well, but what it is is you're not being responsible
with the money, rightiary.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
More of a conflict of interest because.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Right legal or ethical relationship of trust with one or
more parties typically it's you're you're trusted with them. So
like you're a football player, you trust that the people
that are running your union, running your shop, and who
are managing your money are working in your best interest,
i e. Not working for ownership, which is one of
(39:16):
the problem, right or exactly or funneling money wrongly in
terms of fees, like there's a.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
Million companies or they may be involved with them, correct.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Which is one of the problems you had with Lloyd
Howell to begin with talking about private equity on the
ownership ownership side of face, how.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Long has this been going on?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
But that but that's the larger question I have, because
it's a question, uh that whatever any of these union
uh issues is, particularly with the NFL, have come up.
And I've I've had plenty of animated discussions with some
of our colleagues that are former players. You know, the
dissemination of information is always spotty at best. It's I'll
(39:58):
go with what the group does. I'll go with your recommend.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Whereas your checks and balances, where's the you know, the secondary,
the third people checking them, Where's where's people overlooking people
overlooking people? It's not just one group of people in charge.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well, but that's the right.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
You have your team reps, you go into you know,
funnel that up to your executive committees and up to
the person you elect as the head. Before it was
Demorris Smith, and for years we chronicled him getting beaten
like a drum at the negotiating table right by Roger Goodell.
And I've talked about it, you know, and we brought
it up a little bit earlier. Right, you just have
(40:34):
that large divide between what people making sixty million dollars
a year, your quarterbacks, your pass rushers, whatever, and the
guys that are trying to hang on, right, that might
not get their second contract, might not finish that first year, right,
and voting rights and their responsibilities and what they're looking
for for the union is going to be vastly different.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Right.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Tom Brady with several hundred million dollars in the bank
and Giselle Bunchin as his wife at the time, his
consideration's much different.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Right, So Thursday night football, because you know, you get
pay each player gets like two hundred thousand.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
No, but that's the thing, right, you make all these
concessions in exchange for one extra day off right right, right,
or one fewer padded practice here and there. Well, but
that's like all of those things. And I think the
game has been worse for a lot of it. And
I don't think that's that's an arguable point. I think
we watch it every September that it looks like you're
(41:31):
still scrimmaging, or at least one side looks decidedly worse
and less organized than the other. So now you have
the question. You have this Lloyd Howell scandal. You have
this coming out? Now, how far back does this go?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
To talk about Demorris Smith, He's got a book out
about his experiences. I haven't walked right through it at
this point, but you know, how much was you were duped?
And how much is all right? Everybody kind of knew
what was going on and are willing complicit? And I'm
not accusing him that. I'm like, I just want to know,
like where we are in the process. You know, did
this start? Because it can't just be a two to
(42:03):
three year thing.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
No, And we need people to say, you know, when
we do the investigation, we need to find out who's guilty,
They need to be punished, we need to figure out
how long is this going to take? Too?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Well, But that's but that's the other side though. Arnie
is like, how far do you have to clean this out?
And if you're a you were a player, rep, I
gotta imagine your phone's been ringing it awful lot and
guys are cornering you in the locker room as camps
came underway this year. Crazy stuff. But tell you what,
let's go back into the practice. I want you to
explain your dolphin
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