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and here I can't see. Can you tell me what's
the score of the Knicks Lakers game? Well you have AOL,
of course, Yeah, it's down. It just shows me, It
just shows me. Seven pm tip off. Oh, I can't
wait for a banner night at MSG. I keep hitting.
We were eight on the Lakers and then we got
our ask. So it's an eight point lead. What is
(01:11):
it is? It an eight point lead. It could be
twenty eight. Okay, enjoy it. Well, I'm saying, I don't
know if it's an eight point lead. Are you sure
it's an eight point it's not a ten point man,
I think it might be a ten point lead. I
don't know. I'm trying to see. I'm looking at Harmon's
over here on Friendster. He's trying to get some people
to find out what score the game is. Yeah, he's
I do someone that once ran a site called dmfriend
dot com no Friendster was yeah, three forty eight to
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go of the second Oh, there's my internet. We all
need friends, Nick Lee. The Lakers fifty two to forty two,
but a big last few minutes. Now Heart's got ten
andw Noby has a couple of threes. Jalen Brunson is
still leading away with sixteen. Meanwhile, for the Lakers, it's
been all Luca and Lebron. Luca's got fifteen and five assists.
Lebron twelve points already. He is five out of nine
(01:57):
from the floor. So the Knicks, Yeah, if only it
was a two quarter game for you it is. I
don't know if you know this or not. It's over
you'd be undefeated. The Nicks are leaving at halftime. Hey,
it's not going to get better than this. We're leaving
right now.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Combined nine of thirty five from three point range, the
Knicks with several more free throw attempts than the Lakers.
We had a play where Luke was driving and the
ball gets knocked away, but he takes a four arm
shiver from Cat and he ends up drawing the technical
foul because he complained pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Right now, they're doing the whole pan round of fans
at the game, and John McEnroe was sitting next to
Don Johnson, who was sitting next to someone I couldn't
tell who was sitting next to Bob Costas, and Costas
had like four phone books on. I was waiting for
the Doctor Odyssey promo.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah right, yeah, it's gonna be a shark attack doctor Otissey.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
McEnroe sitting next to Don Johnson. I love it. What
do you mean that was out of bout? Jason? Can
you tell me what the these are liking? One shot
from this game? Yeah? Right here, here you go. John mackn wrote,
Don Johnson, there you go with a right jem Stones,
I don't know who the other guy was. Who was
the other guy that cost was talking to. I couldn't tell.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I saw him, like, I know, I know his face.
I know it's face, but the name's not.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now Here's Here's a crazy His face kind of looked
like the guitarist from Cheap Trick. But I don't think
that was No. Probably would be awesome if it was
talk about that. We're gonna say his face looked like
a guitar face, looked like a guitar man playing the
strings on your nose. Man, it's what you're doing, Una
bug me now. Though, under three minutes to go before halftime,
(03:39):
NIX with a ten point lead over the Lakers, fifty
four to forty four. More on this game coming up.
Great day today to talk about a guy I haven't
talked about in a long time. Barry Bonds has jokes.
Apparently Barry Bonds has decided to weigh in on show.
Heyo Tony. Barry Bond's very active these last couple of months.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
He signed autographs for the Tops Cards again, the first contract
he's had with them. I think in like a decade.
He was around Spring training a little bit, and then
during the NBA All Star weekend up in the Bay Area.
He was a coach for one of those dopey celebrity games. Yeah,
and there he is. Hi, it's me, so, uh, twenty
years have gone by. Do you think I can come?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah? I think you're okay. Now back, you're all right,
You're okay, You're okay, Now you're all right. I think
you can all right.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So what's funny is Verry asking me about my hat size.
And it's funny that we.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Segue into a conversation about Barry Bones. Verry b his
head's sat size was an eight, right, Yeah, he was
BOUCHI yeah, Now without the roids at the two, he's
a six and eight hat. What do you mean allegend?
I don't think we have to say allegend when it
comes to Barry Bond that not well for hat size.
You do? That always upset me when I would go
on and see, oh, look at this great sweet hat.
(04:51):
You know, normally fifty four to ninety nine, now it's
nine to ninety nine. Oh, and I go size six
seven eighths only, like, who is a size or six
seven eighths. I'm about seven and five. His hat size
is down, My hat side is down. PhD wait lost
my hats. I was a seven and three quarter. Even
my hat size is down now I'm at the seven
and five inches.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm becoming a lolly pop pad. I'm dropping weight everywhere else.
I still have a giant bat hit.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's just going to his head. I mean you are
swollen Dome. No it fits. Yeah, that's your nickname, so
I mean that it really can't give that away, but
I'm not doing anything to keep it now. My hat
size is all these all these hats are now more
available for me to buy. Bebout that I don't just
go and I see, Oh it only goes up to
seven and five inches. They don't make him any bigger.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Bigger question though, did you buy that Rogers sweatshirt yet?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
No? I might another ten percent. What I'm waiting for
It was nineteen ninety nine now went up, and I
was kind of upset about that. So on general principle,
I'm waiting for to come back to nineteen nights. I
just bought one of those jerseys. But then like, what
am I gonna do with this? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I guess unless I can go to an event like
an autographed signing that he's going to do down the.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Road, but I don't. I don't want to pay three
hundred dollars. Yeah, it's like it's a non store.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It's like it's all our cost averaging because the jersey's
cheap at all.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
But now certain things like that, I know, because I
love to online shop and thrift and all kinds of stuff,
there's certain things when I buy and I don't. Again,
it's good my wife isn't listening. Is that? Certain things
I buy and I just I put in my cart
and I think about him for like a week. Do
I really want this? Do I really want this? I go, yeah,
it looks great. You look at this is only nineteen
ninety nine, blah blah blah. Yeah yeah, And then I
(06:24):
click on it and I buy it, and I go,
that was really unfulfilling. Why did I do that? But
I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I'm not gonna wear this.
Why did I do that? Like like the Aaron Rodgers
Jet sweat because everything with Jay Rogers is on clear
now for the Jets. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, this
sweatshirt that's one hundred dollars is nineteen dollars. I'm like, oh, okay,
i't or twenty nineteen ninety nine, I'm like, oh I
could get this. I'm like, yeah, it'd be great to
(06:44):
be ground and go, am I really gonna wear it?
Am I really gonna wear it all that often? Am
I really? I mean I'm just buying it because it's cheap, right, Okay,
I mean it's great quality sweatshirt. It's good. Yeah, yeah,
it says Rogers eight. And I'm like, am I really
gonna wear it? Am I really gonna wearing that? Probably? Now?
You know? And that's what I mean. Like then I go, okay,
and I'm like, I just had it. I thought about
(07:06):
this thing for a week and then I clicked to
buy it and I didn't want it? Why did I
do it? So that That's where I'm at right now.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
No, it's good, it's it's it's part of growing up
and byes. So I didn keep the candy by the checkout.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But Barry Bonds does a podcast today and he wanted
to talk about how players nowadays like show Hayotani have
it easy. In my day, I interface Walter Johnson and
Mordecai three finger Brown when he had five fingers, So
good luck trying to hit that Barry Bonds wanted to say,
how yeah shoe. Heyes, a great player, great players now,
(07:42):
but things are a lot easier in my day when
I was up there at bat playing in Major League Baseball,
show he Tani is way better than me. I didn't
even sound like Barry VI. I like that he went
full deep way. Yeah, Barry Bonds is kind of a
higher voice. Hey you go, Berny's Well, did we give
this guy a voice again? I don't know what are
we doing? I think after twenty years he's saying, Hey,
(08:05):
people seem to be forgiven and all walks of life
now for really the things they've done, why can't I
come back? And his agent probably said, Okay, sure, that's
probably what. I'm pretty sure the game is easier when
you're on steroids. Well that's the whole thing. Well, let's
play the sound bite first and we get to why.
You know it's Perry very ironic. Barry Bonds is talking
about how easy the game play.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
There's no question about who he is. I just the
pitching and hitting has been outstanding. For what he's done
in base running and stuff like that, he's a complete player.
I mean, there's no doubt about the type of player
he is and what he's accomplished in his career.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
The game has just changed.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I mean, the game is way different than it is
than when I play the same way Michael talks about
it or anyone else. Oh Tani is not going to
hit two home runs without seeing one goal right here
in my generation.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I don't care what he does.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
He's not going to steal two bases about somebody decapitating
his kneecap and slow him down.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, So Barry Bonds is the latest guy to say, yeah,
back in my day, what and look, Barry Bonds is
right to an extent what Barry Bonds I think was.
I think he's like a fifth or sixth all time
with hit by pitches because he did get thrown at that.
That's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, but when wear in that body Armory like, he
looked like he was rogue cop, well, let me just
say this. Wait, Barry Bonds also has to understand that
things a lot easier for him than they were for.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Mike Schmidt in the nineteen seventies and the eighties. The
home runner is there, and Mike Schmid has to say, boy,
was easier for me than it was for Mickey Mannlin.
Roger maris right, this is how sports goes. Here's another
guy that's been in sports server doesn't know how sports work,
Charles Barkley Barry Bonds, like, Yeah, of course things are
a little bit easier for you because of things that
were open to you now that weren't back then. Twenty
(09:43):
four hour a day training and what teams are able
to do, and what you're able to do to be
able to stay in shape all around. You don't come
to spring training to get in shape anymore. You're in
shape twenty four to seven, right, all these amenities that
are offered to players outside. Yeah, that's the way sports goes, right.
And it's also it's really ironic that a guy that
took peds and tested positive for peds, he's saying, how
(10:07):
he's got it easier than I did. Oh, by the way, okay,
easier at the plate? Who also would crowd the plate,
hang over it, wear that big armor around his elbow
with the straps that hung down into the strike zone
and they allowed him to do that. So yeah, stop
for I'm sorry for a second if Barry Bond's is saying,
oh yeah, yeah, things are away easier for Rotani than
they were for me. Yes, certain things Forrotani are he
(10:29):
doesn't have to worry about getting thrown at. That doesn't happen.
But other things, Boy, you had advantages outside the game.
You were able to gain the system with your whole
here's where I'm gonna stand with this big arm brace,
and yeah, you were allowed to do things that guys
before you didn't do. It's kind of convenient memory now
for Barry Bonds just saying this about show. Hey O Tani,
So I mean, come on, man, I mean I get it,
(10:50):
but there's other ways to make your point. And especially
I don't know that you're the guy that wants to
say things were easier then because I made it easier
on me with the cream and the clear, So it
made it easier for me against everybody, Like he's the.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Guy say but what he's saying there in between the
lines is I mean it levels out what we did
back then versus all the training habits or whatever you have. Remember,
they're always building a better mouse trap. They're always ahead
of whatever regulations the game enforces. Just kind of raising
my hand out all of that one, not casting a
spurs and just calling it what it is, but for
(11:27):
the time and Barry Bonds, you know, we always have
that imaginary line of demarcation of all right, when do
we think it all began?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
We arbitrarily decide which guys we liked that there's no
way they could have ever done anything during that period
when it's been talked about pretty relentlessly, going back to
Jose Canseco of yeah, oh no, that was everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We talk about what the game is, right, is it
easier or harder when you're deploying all those relief pictures
as a hitter. Numbers will bear it out over time,
like we're in a new era in terms of you're
not seeing a starter a second time oftentimes or a.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Third right, and how many relievers are you seeing? Now?
Everybody throws ninety five and up right, that didn't happen.
Barry Bonds was seeing crafty lefties and guys coming in
with big arsenals. But everybody throws ninety five now, right.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But that's look, I can still hit one hundred mile
an hour fastball, which I believe right, a straight dead
red fastball, and that's I guess owes to the old
style of pitching where it was more of an art form?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Am I wrong for saying that?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Like when I look at guys like Maddox and look,
guys still game the system to try to earn the plate.
We'll see what happens when the robot empires take over.
How much of that goes out the way, you know,
because all the veteran pitchers are all complaining about this
coming in, realizing that they probably get some strikes that
are a little generous, you know, a couple of inches
off the black. But to that end, you know, you
(13:02):
had all those guys and they weren't all Randy Johnson
coming in fireballing and even Roger Clemens the arsenal that
he had right, So the art of pitching may be
a bit different and was a bit more nuanced back then.
But all of that to say, you don't denigrate that guy,
you know, trying to take away from what hotel so much.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's so much easier, so much like, but.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Like you still get celebrated, even though people will put
the asterisks and argue where you know, things got fraudulent
for for guys of that era, is particularly Bonds and Clemens,
but they still recognize their greatness.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah. But and but being self aware has never been
Barry Bonds a strong point. Has never been something own
wing in the clubhouse, right, I mean he's never he's
never had that part of it. And and these are
kind of tone deaf comments where right away most people
are gonna just say, oh, yeah, another one of those.
In my day, everything was this, and it was so
difficult because I was facing two pitchers at once and
(14:01):
two balls were coming at me at the same time,
and I had to hit one of them or I
would strike out. Like but I think the Savannah bananas
do that. But to go but to go to go
to go after Otani and say oh yeah, yeah, he's
got all this and all these advantages. Like, dude, you
were the guy that made your own advantages with stuff
that wasn't allowed in Major League Baseball, and you're the
guy saying that he's got he's got advantages that I
(14:23):
didn't have. Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Look, to be fair, major League Baseball has done a
pretty good job through the years of turning a blind
eye to things they don't want to discuss. Go to
all the owners, the commissioner, the managers, the clubhouse people,
everybody that was involved with that era, including the broadcasters
that made millions of dollars and didn't question. Hey, Sammy
Sosa must have really had one great off season of workouts.
(14:48):
My god, he looks legitimately like a different guy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
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As long as I get that once Eric halftime Nix
and the Lakers. Nicks lead the Lakers sixty to fifty one. Boy,
this is really upsetting Charles Barkley. All this talk about
the Lakers salty sixteen for Jalen Brunson, meanwhile eighteen for
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Luka Doncic, sixteen for Lebron James. But it's the Knicks
with a sixty to fifty one lead at halftime this game,
much to Charles barkley chagrin being broadcast on TNT or
is he happy because they're losing? Uh No, cause he's
got to talk about him after the game is over,
he's got to talk about I don't want to do
it now before we get to this big NFL store.
I got an idea. I got a good, good, good.
(18:11):
The Paul Skiings baseball card is going up for auction
like this once in a lifetime card that a kid
here in Los Angeles pulled it.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
A lot of conspiracies on this, but it's it's the card.
The card is legit card. Okay, don't make where but
the card is legit. Don't make the car jan like
you could get sued for that.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, no, no, the card's legit. Cards was surrounding it.
The card is legit, okay. The card's legit. Yeah, cards
legit kid okay. Because Harmon's in the industry, deep in
the industry, allegedly pulled it. Now it's for sale out there.
Remember the pirates offered a whole big pirate of stuff there,
thirty years a season, tickets, watching a game with Olivia Dunn,
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who's Paul Skins, his girlfriend, all these different things. And
the kid was like, well, I live in Los Angeles, man,
I'm not gonna move to Pittsburgh and go to these games.
And they decided to put it up for auction. Anybody
can bid on it, right, and you can bid twenty
bucks on it. You're probably not gonna get it, but
you could bid on Anybody can bid on this thing.
So let me tell you what should happen. Okay, here's
(19:14):
what should happen. The pirates have to see this as
an opportunity, right, just like just like Herb Brooks told
everybody through Kurt Russell and Miracle, great moments are born
from great opportunity. That's what you have in front of
you here tonight, gentlemen, I would tell the pirates, great
opportunities are born, you know, great my moments are born
for great opportunity. You have the opportunity. I'll say it
(19:37):
like Kurt Russell as her books to try to convince
Paul's Skemes to stay here after he becomes a free agent,
to stay in Pittsburgh, where nobody stays, where everybody leaves,
no matter who you are, Bobby Benia, Barry Bonds, they
all leave, Doug drey Beck left, Jim Leland left. Everybody leaves.
(19:57):
You buy this card for this kid for two hundred
and fifty grand to whatever the hell you have to
pay for it, and you present it to them at
home plate right before opening day. Make it hard for
him to leave when it's time for him to leave.
You want to keep superstars because they don't just grow
on trees.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, we talked about it at the time. I thought
their offer. I mean it was great, like the enumeration
of all this stuff. Hang out in the Swedes. She
came over the top with the hangout with me. Here's
thirty years behind home plate tickets, and everybody extrap lay, well,
this is going to be what it would be worth,
and then add for inflation and whatever else. Pirates will
be good at some point in this speriod. But you'll
(20:37):
get to watch schemes in his entire career or whatever
goes on in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And it's like, just figure out a cash value, man,
Just figure just offer them a boatload of money.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Set it at the time. Give them a lot of
cash right now with twelve no, thirteen days, twenty one hours,
and i e. This just started. It's already at three
hundred thousand dollars with forty nine bids. Okay, plus you're
ten percent you know buyers treanium that you'll have to
pay off to fanatics when it's all said none, but
this is gonna go for a million dollars. You could
(21:12):
have just nipped it in the bud and just gone
straight to the source, the kid, his dad, whomever, unless
this is been gonna be like the wemby Jersey Cinnario.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But I figure would get lost. If they went to
the kid, the kid would say, Okay, let me talk
to people. Here's our Our offer is two hundred and
fifty grand. And you know he would have talked to
an auction house who would have said, Hey, guess what
we can get it for more. You should have just
gone over the top and been a lot of it.
And a lot of this money is going to go
to UH to help people who lost their homes in
the LA fires, which is an awesome, awesome thing, right,
I don't want to forget that part. A lot of
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that money is going to that, which is a really
awesome thing. But I think if the Pirates Kingdom with
an offer that was, hey, two hundred and fifty grand,
the kid would have said, Eh, let let's let let's
go to I think we can get we can get more.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, Like I've said, I would have just gone to
the seven figures and just been done with it.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Here's a nice round million dollars for the card. Would
that be enough? I don't know that it will be enough.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I think there's enough people, there's enough baseball players that
now collect that they want this.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I'm not kidding Mike Trout.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Like I told you about the tops RiPP party that
they had, Otani gets the schemes car but legitimately he
spent eight grand on boxes just to hand out to
people that showed up for an appearance at the store,
and he has a massive collection, Like he's bought a
bunch of top notch Otani one of ones that have
come to the marketplace. At one point they did a
special tops now when he when Otani struck him out
(22:29):
and he had Otani sign a bunch of guess what
those are the only dual signed autograph ones you're gonna
find there, the one Stroud owns.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He's brilliant about it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
But yeah, any money that Fanatics collects, which is gonna
be the ten percent buyers premium and maybe a little
taste more, will go towards the fire relief efforts. So
that's pretty cool from the corporate side of things. But yeah,
we'll be uh watching this over the next two weeks
because it's getting the seven figures. But yeah, the pirates
a lot of good will that could have been.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Bought, you know, and and we've we've kind of seen
this before. I told you. One of the best books
I've ever read sports books is the T T two
O six, one of the on the Honest Wagner card.
Right that's the most popular, most expensive card in baseball history.
There's only a few of them left, and it tells
you the story of a few people that have had
the card and how it got popular. Phenomenally an interesting book.
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And there's one part where one came out. It was
one of the biggest, highest graded Honus Wagner cards that
they've ever found. So they had this auction and it
was a big all the big you know people dial in.
It's like one of those scenes from a movie where
like here's all the big wigs dialed in and someone
would dialed in from Los Angeles and every time the
big went they would go over it, and it was like,
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who the blank is this person from LA that keeps
going over it to keep God think, oh, it must
be a movie star, it must be this whatever, because
every time, oh, you know two fifty two fifty five
right right away? You know three twenty three thirty right?
Who is it? Who is? And finally that person got
the card. Everybody was really mad. They were really upset,
and they said, okay, like you know, mister e Bidder,
sign in. And it was Wayne Gretzky who was there.
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Wanted the cards so bad, he wanted over pale. He
paid like more for that card than any other card
that ever went out. I think he sold it years later.
He had it for a while and sold it. Eventually
it ended up in the collection of Ken Kendrick. Really wow,
what happened? Okay, Ken Kenrick?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Very now if she could sing a few bars maybe again?
What's funny is about the bonus on the long way?
The auction house that originally sold it to Gretzki years
later admitted that that they'd trimmed the card to make
it look diicer.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh so we shouldn't have done that. Okay, that stinks.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, So in two thousand and eight it sold, It
moved hands a couple of times. I ended up for
a two point eight million dollar sale, and then ended
up in Kendrick's hands.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Not sure exactly what he paid, but there you go. Now, look,
we've talked a lot about Sam Darnold and where he
is number one quarterback out there in free agency, and
now things are gonna get really seriously. We had a
bit last night on the Raiders are going to wind
up either with him or Aaron Rodgers. Now, Sam Donald,
you can check it out on Twitter at how about
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a Fresco at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports Radio. It's
been out there for a while since yesterday. But what's
not being said about Sam Donald is this is that
now with the Vikings decision on Tuesday to let him
go and not sign him, to not franchise him, and
they say, oh, yeah, we'd like to bring him back, right,
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we always like to bring him back. At some point
they know they're not bringing him back because Sam Donald's
not going to go back there to be a backup
because eventually they want to start JJ McCarthy and some
other team is going to give him a contract that
at least is going to be some of the money
he's looking for, but they're going to give him the
opportunity to be a starting quarterback. Whereas Donald knows, if
I go back to Minnesota. It's just going to be
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until they replace me. So yeah, he's going to go
someplace now. The thing is, and here is this shows
you about how you can get really worked up about
stuff in the NFL and not think clearly. I guarantee
you the Vikings emotion after this decision this week, after
they finally decided, okay, we're not going to franchise him
and let him go to free agency, their emotion is relief.
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They are relieved that this is over and the decision
they made they're gonna walk away. They're okay walking away
from him after he had the year he had because
he had two bad games at the end, right Like,
it's a relief. The bad games he had for them
at the end of the season were a relief because
while yes, it ended their year, at least it made
their quarterback decision going forward a little bit easier. We
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can now justify letting Sam Donald go because the narrative
for Sam Donald is hey took him a while, but
he turned back into the Sam Donald we knew in
love the last two weeks of the season. Okay, look,
I'm not the biggest Sam Donald fan in the world,
and I've told you that I eventually will he turn
back into Sam Donald love all the way through first
fifteen weeks. Yes, he had a bad last two weeks, right,
but that doesn't erase everything you did. But the Vikings
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want you to think they did. And we're okay buying
into that narrative that what he did the first fifteen
weeks was erased by the last past two weeks. I'm
let me ask you. This was the Lions getting knocked
out of the playoffs. Did that e race everything Jared
Goff did? Oh? You had to race everything Johnson did.
Did that cost him a head coaching job in the NFL? No,
it didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, but the football got smite it him for the
school play and Williams.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, but I don't think he suffered. I don't think.
I don't think I Jared Goff's doing. Just look at me.
I'm the king of Chicago. One team wins, other teams
walk away disappointed. And the best players don't play well
sometimes in games. And no, did Sam Donald play well
in those two games? No he didn't. But still fifteen
weeks of great football is great football. Did he played
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two really good teams? Yeah? He did, and he got
knocked out of the play. It happens, right, you had
you lost to a team that made a big run,
You lost to a team the week before that was
the best team in the NFL. So when you when
you want to point Sam Darland direction of hey, this
is why we did what we did, understand you just
wanted to be taken off the hook for it. You
didn't want to be on the hook for a decision
that was going to hang it in next year, in
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the year after, because Donald would clearly walk in as
a starting quarterback. He would outplay JJ McCarthy in spring
and in the fall or in the summer. He would
have to start in the fall. He couldn't lose the
job before the fall started. Then if Donald starts out,
great again, how's JJ McCarthy going to see the field?
And now it's another year of we drafted JJ McCarthy,
he's on a rookie deal. We can't see him on
the field. It's a mess, right. I always go back
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to Philsions when he says you have two quarterbacks, you
have no quarterbacks, because you need to be able to
have that clean delineation of this is our guy and
this is the guy our break class the case emergency guy,
and the Vikings and the Falcons both learn that last
oh we got great quarterback? Rus are good? No, See
how much of the Falcons want to get out of
that decision? Now, how much of the Vikings want to
get out of they decided we're okay with letting a
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guy who went to the Pro Bowl that through for
four thousand yards and thirty five touchdowns. We're okay with
letting him walk because we have a guy that is
untested and coming off an injury that we want to
give the job to. Think how much you get in
your own way when you're an NFL team, that that's
the decision that's made. Because clearly the Vikings were looking
to be taken off the hook and relieved, and those
two games allowed them to do this.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, and the cophony of voice is loud enough against
Sam Donald locally in Minnesota and all the way throughout
national voices to make it that much easier because it
left Kevin O'Connell and everybody else and let them off
the hook for bad game management, bad play calling. I'm
not defending that Donald was good in any way, shape
and form in those games, but a became convenient that
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we didn't get deeper dives. I mean, we did them
in the moment and over time, but it gets drowned
out by the oh yeah, that was the same we expected, like,
got a couple of bad games. I would argue his
market right now is screwed by the fact that a
couple of the teams that are kind of win ish.
Now when you look at the Giants and the Raiders,
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they've got to bring in a guy who's just from
day one, not Sam. Donald's gonna learn another system in Minnesota.
You're gonna pay this guy forty plus million dollars when
you've got another quarterback there. And Kevin O'Connor likes to
look in the mirror and saying, I saved Sam. Don't
I can do that again. You could have on the
chief again.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You could have easily done it for one year. And
if Donald stinks, okay, it's one year and it's gone, right,
that was gone. It's what they just did.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
It's gone good and will also lost in the noise
was they accomplished everything they did.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Darisaw was gone as of week seven.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You're talking about a monster offensive lineman that they were
able to put component parts together to keep the line
moving and have the year they did.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But yes, it's a convenient narrative that suddenly Sam can't
play exit out about a Fresco exits. Well, no, it's
embarrassing for the Vikings. It's completely embarrassing time. How to
find out what's trending in the wide world of sports
from someone who's been called the Sam Darnold of Fox
Sports Radio. They're talking about an awful lot in Las Vegas.
It's Monty Bellagio. It's with what's trending.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Hey, what happens in Vegas stays And you're.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
The one that tells the stories about Vegas all the time. Right,
you're right. We skipped the game, did not skip?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I was so funny.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
No, no, no. I was at present at the Gripe
and Martin wedding, which.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Was beautiful, so.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Same city.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Gripe Jonathan, Yeah, we used to call him. I worked
with both of them, and there she's my one of
my best friends. But I worked with both of them,
and he's like a little younger than her.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
But we used to call him baby Gripes when he
was like little.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Lot of stuff.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
No, no, no, he was just one of the younger
ones that we were tour guides all together at Universal Studios,
and he was like one of the younger tour guides,
so we used to call him baby Gripes, and then
eventually we were like, okay, we have to stop calling
them baby gripes, and so we did.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
You know, all right, congratulations Jonathan and Moran on the wad.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Al right, guys, let's check in on this game. The
Lakers had the early lead, but the Knicks really have
just kind of come together.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
New York is on top seventy two to sixty one.
Halfway through the third quarter. Luka Doncics just picked up
his third foul. The Lakers are not shooting really well
from the three point line. They're four of twenty three,
so seventeen percent. Knicks are nine of twenty eight thirty
two percent. Jalen Brunson the leading score right now. He's
got twenty two points. Luka Doncics has twenty three points
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for LA.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Josh Hart, though, has had a couple of offensive rebounds
to keep the ball alive for the Knicks, and that's
why they are right now up seventy two against sixty
one halfway through the third quarter. What happened already in
the NBA with the Warriors. They happened in Brooklyn. They
were down twenty two points, came back one one twenty
one to one nineteen. They have won eight out of
their nine eight out of their last nine games. Steph
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Curry had forty points, including seven threes in the win.
Kobe White had a career high forty four points for
the Bulls and they edged the Magic One twenty five
to one twenty three. Orlando has now lost five in
a row. Trey Young with the little double double twenty
two points and sixteen assists as the Hawks top.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
The Pacers four to one eighteen.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
In men's college basketball number eight, Michigan State came back
to defeat Iowa ninety one to eighty four.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
On the is of.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Stars edged the Flames three to two in overtime.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Today.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
In the NFL, the Jaguars cut tight end Evan Ingram.
They also traded wide receiver Christian Kirk to the Texans
for a seventh round pick. The Rams signed wide receiver
to do at Well to a one year deal, and
Bobby Wagner is back with the Washington Commanders on a
one year deal as well. And lastly, Wyndham Clark leads
to Arnold Palmer Invitational after the first round five under
par overall.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Back to you guys, Thank you, Vonte, Jace, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon, Locketh tire Rack dot Com Studios. Coming up next.
I don't think fans are ready for the reaction when
an all time great records going to be broken sometime
in the next few days. Fans aren't because it's not
going to be what you think. That's next right here, Jason.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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and a best of version posted right after we get
off the air four minutes ago. In the third quarter,
Nick lead the Lakers seventy four to sixty five. It's
been a big game so far for Jalen Brunson, big
game for Luca and Lebron. Luca got teed up, did
not like his arguing with the officials, So this has
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been a fun game so far. The Knicks have a
nine point lead. But I got a sneaking suspicion this
is gonna wind up being close down the stretch because
this is how the Knicks do it right. Knicks don't
run away from anybody in the fourth quarter. This is
gonna wind up being.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Close down, Yeah, because they can't run in the fourth
because they've all played the first thirty.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Six although now the guys are playing a little bit
more minutes. Now. I think Tibbs, you know, has no choice.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
But well, the fact I think Cat got that second
fault because he wanted a breather.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
He's got to sit me down if I do a
stupid reach and follow right. I'm really tired. What are you, Luca?
The game's three minutes old now, I'm just just tired,
madam tired. Frostburg who has worse conditioning than Luka Doncic Okay,
the Knicks. The Knicks have great conditions, wait till the
fourth They just they I mean, they just wait them out.
I've seen this movie, buddy. They're They're good for about
(35:29):
thirty eight minutes and then things get a little hairy.
We'll see, uh. But again, still a long way to go.
Really fun game so far, three fifty eight to go
in the third quarter. And to Charles Barkley chagrin the Lakers,
we'll be front page news again tonight. So sometime in
the next couple of weeks, most likely, Wayne Gretzky's all
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time record for goals is going to be broken by
Alex Ovechkin. And I thought it was gonna wind up
being the beginning of next year, but he had a
big hat trick a few weeks ago, and now he
smells it. And there's something that happens to great players
when they smell a record, they smell a title, things
just start falling their way. And now Vechkin looks like
he may actually break the record before the end of
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the season. And Darren Pang, who was calling the game
last night, in the words of Keith Obrin, Darren Way
Downtown Pang, longtime espnanals he would come on the show
here we talk hockey, a lot nicest guy in the world.
Blackhawks got in a lot of trouble and became public
enemy number one in Washington when he said courtesy of
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one of Ovechkin's goals last night, saying, hey, he's been
a one trick pony, but hey he does something a
little bit different and scores a big goal. Get him
one more goal closer to Wayne Gretzky. Here was Darren
Pang in the call that has a lot of people upset,
you know, getting that mark down there to the Montirees.
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So there's the call of his goal, now nine goals away.
People aren't ready for the reaction Ovechkin's record is going
to be because it ain't gonna be what you think
it is. It's gonna be met with skepticism, it's gonna
be met with a lot of over the top eight
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and it's not going to be the crowning moment for
hockey that they want it to be, because you're talking
about breaking a record of Wayne Gretzky, who was the
most beloved player in NHL history, the greatest player in
NHL history. N Ovechkin, as you heard Darren Pagy say
one trick pony, right, Like he scores from the slot,
that's where he is all the time, where he scores
his goals from. Okay, he's a great goal. Look, the
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guy's one of the greatest players to ever play the game.
But he's not Gretzky, he's not beloved. He's played twenty
some odd years, played longer than Gretzky. Siria is gonna
break a record of a guy that nobody wants that
record to be broken. Everybody wants Gretzky to have this
record forever because he's the greatest. He was the greatest
player we have ever seen. There's gonna be stuff like this.
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And I don't think Darren Pang for a second meant
this maliciously because he's too nice of a guy. He
respects the game, respects of Vetchkin. He based saying was look,
this is where a Vetchkin shoots from. And he could
have used a better phrase in saying it. But this
is gonna be said a lot. Now I'm gonna say,
you're getting into politics. If it's it's a Russian player,
you know what, it doesn't help. That's not but that's
not gonna be part of it, because this is this
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is not part of that. This is more here's a
Gretzky record, and the NHL wants this to be positive,
wants it to be a big moment, and it's just
not going to be because it's not gonna be met
with the overall excitement that they would want it to be.
There should be big countdowns, NHL should be doing all
sorts of publicity. Here's the greatest record in hockey history.
He's about to be broken. You're gonna see it, and
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it's not gonna be that way, barring Gretzky himself stepping
up and saying, hey, let's all root for Alex he's
gonna break my record, do all kinds of interviews the
next few weeks and talk about his career in Ovechkin
basically saying, it's okay to root for him to break
my record. He's going to do it. It's okay. Barring
that happening, it's gonna be a real stilted and weird
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and arms length celebration when Ovechkin breaks this mark. Trust me,
it's not gonna be He's not the best, he's not
the real goal scorer. He's not my goal scoring champion. Look,
and they're gonna compare what he did to Gretzki. That's
how this is gonna go well.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
But the bigger thing is that you can just keep it,
keep the argument away, and play keep it away by
not talking about it as yeah, the goals goal scoring
is nice, and then you can just do nothing but
b role of assists from Gretzky and talk about points
and talk about how that's the differentiator.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And I think to some degree that's kind of where
Pang's going with this.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
But when you say one trick, Pony like, it's derisive
and dismissive of whatever else in the game. And Ovechkin's
long long in the two long in the game. What
he's forty seven, forty eight games or whatever he's played
this year, so he's missed a bunch. Otherwise this would
have already had to come to a fruition but to
its endpoint. But yeah, Gretzky.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Being beloved doing every interview. Go back to man.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I got to talk to him years ago when they
were doing a garage sale over at his kids high school,
and he was getting through all the stuff.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
That he endorsed. So here's golf bags and all this
other stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
By a sweater and all, and I interviewed him and
we started singing Waikiki Hockey from when he was on
Saturday Live.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
I mean, so like he's beloved, Like he.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Gets in and gets into it and is an enjoyed
great success and a love fest. And I don't think
that happens here, that goes away, And I don't think
there needs to be in, you know, outright hate of Ovechkin.
It's just the unfortunate thing that you're going up against
the legend. I just moved the goalpost.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
It's all about the points. Just watch, just watch how
awkward this is going to be. It should be unbelievably celebrated.
Watch how awkward it is. Coming up next, a double
barrel of NFL trade topics to get to Jason and Mike.
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