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July 2, 2025 • 40 mins

Jason and Mike debate if Giannis will get dealt by the Bucks this off-season. And MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show to talk Dodgers, Yankees and Tigers!

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version posted right after we get off the air. We'll
continue to celebrate Bobby Vinia Day coming up in a
few minus That's with John paulm Rosi. Fans still is
Bobby Benia Day. But Day two of NBA Free Agency
brought us all kinds of drama because now the question

(01:11):
really centers around what the hell is gonna happen with Giannis.
The big surprise move of the day the Milwaukee Bucks
waved Damian Lillard and they stretch his salary out over
the next forty five seasons so they could sign Miles
Turner away from the Indiana Pacers. Right Turner, who had
a great playoff, He's been really solid his career, you know,

(01:33):
twenty nine years old, and that they're thinking, Okay, now
we're not gonna get anything from Damian Lillard, so now
let's go and remake the team on the fly and
want to keep you honest happy. Now, the first thing
I'm gonna say is this. Giannis has already said he
is upset with the waving of Damian Lillard. Now I
hope this is just Hey, I feel bad for the guy.
He gave up a lot to come here and it

(01:55):
didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
They've been trying to get him out of Portland for
so long. I tried to get him out of port
Go play basketball where it matters, Go play where you
have a chance at things.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Get him out and if I'm fine, I'll leave.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
And he leaves, and he goes to Milwaukee and it
doesn't go well and he gets hurt, and he's going
to be out most, if not all, of this year,
and it's it's it's so hard for the guy. But
Jannis is a smart guy, right, and I understand. I'm
hoping that's what he's doing because honestly, the Bucks had
to do this. They had to be aggressive because the
bottom line is they want to keep you honest.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, his tweet was brilliant. I don't know what's going on,
but I.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Want to say, dude, you know he he's thirty five
years old. This is Damian Lillard is thirty five. Yes,
he's still a dynamic player, but you're not going to
have him for this year. And when you come back
with Achilles injuries, it takes you a little bit longer, right,
Like just look at Aaron Rodgers, right, who didn't look
like he was even passable until the midway point.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Of last year.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Like he was out that's eighteen months before and he
had that crazy surgery with Neil at tash Case who
like basically took you know, the Achilles out out of
a cadaver who was a really had really great calves
and put it in there and said, hey.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Take this, and I yelled, I'm not dead yet. It
was harmon. You don't need it, put it in there,
and so you look that it looks that. So now
you have Damian Lillard who was gonna be coming back
at some point, maybe not this year but next year
and then maybe need time after that.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
What were you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean, if you if you're sitting here saying, hey,
I'm in it long term with you, Milwaukee, if Damien,
when Damien comes back, he comes back, Okay, I get it.
But you're smart, right, So I hope this is just
I'm standing up for a guy here and I'm being
a good teammate because it doesn't make sense because you
know how the NBA works. It's the first thing I
would say with dude, when when do you think he's
going to be on the court with you when we
have a chance to win something again? Do you think

(03:47):
that was ever gonna happen to me? Thirty five? Coming
back from this devastating injury and he was still really
good before he left. But it all changes when you
come back at thirty six thirty and you're thirty six
thirty seven, Are you still that guy? You still have
the ass twitch muscles. That's gonna allow you to create
space in the open floor. You still that guy, the
Bucks can't sit here and wait for that. They had

(04:07):
to make. This was a gutsy decision. I feel awful
for Damian Lillard because again because of what he gave
up to go to Milwaukee, which was not his preferred destination.
I feel all for the guy, but it's a business.
You're paying Damen. He's getting paid one hundred and thirteen
million dollars so they can move on. He's gonna get that,
he's gonna rehab in Portland, back at home, everything he wants. Okay,
that's great, but like you have to make a decision

(04:28):
where hey, we're trying to save the team right now,
and this is we want to keep you honest. So okay,
let's go and stretch. We think Miles Turner's the guy
that's gonna really fit with what we like to do. Obviously,
we saw the team with Brook Lopez and moving on,
and you know, Miles Turner condit three. He's like brook Lopez, Okay,
we're seeing a vision. You can agree or disagree with
the vision, but I mean they kind of had to

(04:48):
make this move, like it was gutsy for them to
do it.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
It's a bad headline, I get it. But they swallowed
deep and said.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Here's one hundred and ten million dollars and we're we're
gonna move on and try to remake this team on
the fly.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
A bit of a shock this morning until you put
it in proper perspective, much like the fact that the
Pacers didn't go over the top to keep Turner right
and he goes to the Bucks just slides over in
the Eastern Conference is we've got a guy who's injured,
and we know our window to be competitive is going

(05:21):
to be a year.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Hence, so what do we do in the interim?

Speaker 5 (05:24):
We divest, we reload, we reevaluate, we see how Haliburton
comes back, and then we get ready for twenty six,
twenty seven. Right, twenty five to twenty six, you're gonna
try to be a solid team, but are you really
going all in to compete? When he got a guy
like Turner getting the offer that he doesn't know, you
have to resign yourself that he's gone, and then you

(05:46):
set yourself up for the next iteration. Likewise, here with Milwaukee,
Damian Lillard's not gonna be there and by the rules,
you have a lot of fun with salary. Got Yeah,
you got to pay him every dime of it, But
when you can stretch it out and look, if he
wants to come back and physically he's ready to come
back and reacclimate to that squad, either the end of
next year or twenty six twenty seven. Cool, But in

(06:08):
the interim he rehabs, and then he'll have his choice
of wherever he wants to go, and there'll be plenty
of suitors if he's physically back to eighty five percent
of what Damian Lillard has been. So in this case,
everybody wins, and for Giannis, he gets a guy like
you said, that can step out, that can play down
in the interior, but can step out take a big three.

(06:31):
Losing Lopez was big. He goes to the Clippers. Nice
addition for him. We talked about that a little bit
last night. But Miles Turner gives them a good number
two option as they retool that offense and retool that
roster and try to make it enticing to stay because
again you're saying, hey, gyanis, look around the east, look
around the east. He got the next they still don't

(06:52):
have a coach. They're runnerless man. Hey, honest, let's go there.
See But now, but here's the rub.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
The Bucks want to be honest, and all he has
been doing is getting itchy to go right all that
that that itch was there.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Maybe it was a little dull way below.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
The skin, like maybe one of those when you you
know it kind of wakes you up a little bit
at night. Now you go back to sleep, but then
it sort of moves up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Now it's up. Now you're up and you're fully scratching. Yeah,
that normally is after you watch the shingles and you
start thinking.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
About it a little bit too much.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I go, where's that backscratcher? Drop it on the floor.
But all it's been has been Yannis going into the
last couple of off seasons. After first round, exit's going, I
wonder where we're going? What what are we doing? And
now they lose Damian Lillard and they trade him and
he's upset. Okay, what is going on here? I don't

(07:44):
know he's going to leave. Okay, I'll tell you right now.
He's gonna get traded this off season. But it's going
to be an end of free agency. Type trade because
Giannis is not going to go someplace where they make
him promise and say yeah, we'll do this, and then
we gotta go get this guy and this guy and
this guy and this guy, and it doesn't work and
they don't get him the supporting cast he wants. He

(08:06):
wants to look at things like, Okay, I want to
be Kawhi when Kawhi got plopped into Toronto, right when
I can go in and just have the supporting cast
around me, I know who's gonna be there. I can
work well with these guys. He's gonna pick his destination
because he's mad. He wants he's not gonna trust Milwaukee
with the process after this. He knows my legacy is
a thing. Now he's having the Shaquille O'Neal mid season.

(08:29):
I gotta I gotta worry about my mid career. I
gotta worry about my legacy. So what he's going to
do is he's gonna say okay and differ it.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Let you.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm sure there's back channel stuff going on now and
teams are figuring their way out. You'll see some teams
making some moves and get the Brian Windhorse. Now, why
would they do that? Why would they do that? Meme
and a few team.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
I gotta I gotta, folks, but I mean, I gotta
make sure I give the full picture.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I gotta step into the role. You know I got
wasn't just a vocal.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
But he's he's going to wait and see how teams
position themselves and then say, all right, this team, this team.
And the good news is I think I don't think
he's he's really looking at any one particular team he wants. Okay,
there's a couple of places I could go where I
can be happy, where if they have the right team
around me, we can win. But I'm not gonna go
someplace where they make me promises and say we're gonna

(09:23):
make moves. Oh we can't, we can't get this player,
we can't get this player. I'm gonna go to a
place where I know these are the guys that are
going to be around me for next year. Whatever trade
is made, whatever move is made, Where's gonna be guys
out there that are going to be there when I
get there, and these are guys I can win with.
And that's when it's going to happen. It will be
an end of free agency thing. Not the days of

(09:44):
players like Lebron and and and guys hitting the first day,
having these big tours. Oh I'm gonna go here. That's
over now because as Lebron saw, well wait a minute,
I need the Lakers to build a little bit more
around me because you know, seven years one NBA finals,
that's not.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Cool for Lebron. James, man, he is one final thing. Cool?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah, well let you do it now. They let you
have control and look what that that wrought you.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
This is this is how stars are gonna do it now.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
With Yannis, it's curious, right, Chris Haynes was with the
reporting of him being upset. Chris Haynes, who is related
to Giannis's wife, told you he was moving. So so yeah,
you have that bit in the uh, in the in
the stash. Therefore you as your report. So some of
it may just be a little different way of posturing
instead of having Rich Paul put out a giant statement

(10:29):
like we saw from Lebron James. Right, Oh, we understand
the the posting a competitive roster while building for the
future and blah blah blah blah blah, you know, bluster
like you make yourself look really big on that back
trail in case you run into a mountain line. Guess what,
the mountain lion is still going to eat your ass.
Uh when we're talking about Wow, yeah, he's gonna get you. Okay,

(10:52):
But with Yannis, the betting odds right that he stays
in Milwaukee. Next favorite is Atlanta, Toronto, your Nicks. Yeah,
I don't forget. I'm on there too. It's me too,
It's me and honest, we both go together. Hey, why
will you keep trying to speak that into exact because
he's didn't even say that.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Knicks are gonna sign you, Honis, and he's gonna show
up at the you know, LaGuardia and the Knicks are
gonna go pick him up, and Doc's gonna be with us,
but he's gonna say, oh no, no, we're a package deal.
And they're gonna go, ah, fine, come in, fine whatever,
we'll keep you on to the height. Fine, that's what
it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
You can hang out, you get a little per diem.

Speaker 6 (11:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But the other teams, Houston and then San Antonio.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
San Antonio is the one that we've had circled for
a long time because at post draft, now you're talking
about you've got several point guards, You've got depth that
you didn't trade away when we go back to that
Deer and Fox edition. So you may have some opportunity
there based on the current roster construction. Uh, Houston already
made their big play and brings in Kevin Durant, but

(11:54):
that would be moderately interesting. We've seen a couple of
thought pieces linking him to the Warriors. So for for Yannis,
this next phase will definitely be interesting. We talked about
it last night and I'm like, I don't think it
was dead then, just because there's not a bunch of
smoke for any individual team. Man, we're just getting started.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
On the end of free agency is when it's all
gonna come together. You'll be sifting through the rubble and Okay,
these are the couple of teams that I'm happy going to.
And then that's gonna be the story who winds up
putting the best offer together where Giannis is okay going there,
uh without them giving up too much and the Bucks
all right, this is what will take coming back, Like,
that's gonna that's gonna be a thing. It's gonna be complicated,

(12:35):
but you're gonna see that's gonna be a big, overwhelming story,
just one.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Yeah, I was really surprised that you didn't have more.
I mean you got several teams from the East that
are at the top of the leader board.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean I could do I Hay right away. I
could do Cat and Nobi for I could do that
right now. I mean I got that right now, already
run the next great, I'll do that thing right now.
But I don't know the Knicks would do that.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
But I do it right because you're trying to get out,
just because you're taking the victory lap on Mike Brown,
don't get shooting.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Who is still in play? Who do you want? Who
do you want?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
The only guy you can have is Brunson, But any
any other couple of guys you want, I'll give him
to you.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Afraid to see the report that runs. His dad's gonna
survive whatever.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
He'll wind up being.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Why do I have a feeling that somehow next year
Rick Brunson will have the the the injurim trum head
coach for at least a few games for the nixt I.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Don't know, I just have a few.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
And clearly TJ the Knicks would have a death wish
if that was the case, Exit, I'm bout of Fresco.
Exit Swallen dom telling you Jannis and a free agency
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Speaker 1 (14:52):
Hey, Tani on a full count pitch, just Homer to
Wright center field. Dodgers lead to White Sox. Now seventeen
to one. It feels like it okay to one through
four innings. Now my dad is up for tomorrow. The
pressure is on him.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
There was an interesting pitch on the outer part of
the plate that I wanted to see a replay on,
but two pitches earlier Otani had followed it off and
felled the home plate umpire so like, did he not
call it because it would have looked like a revenge call?
And instead Smith throws him a meatball. That's the I'm
tired of this game. I've getting my ass kicked here.

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Speaker 8 (15:44):
I'm doing great. Happy Canada Day to our listeners who
maybe north of the border able to still pick up
the Fox Sports radio signal. Of course, our day is
in a couple of days, and NHL free agency days,
so a lot of exciting things happening there too. But
I think you're spot on. It's also Otani hits a

(16:04):
ball a million miles day. That's also on the calendar.
We should have known that was coming against the White Sox,
but certainly sure Way made that to be the case
just a short time ago. As Justin reminded me as
the segment began, it was just it was perfect. And
then I got the heads up, you know, JP, o'tanni Homer,
the ball might land in your lap in Michigan when

(16:25):
you're doing the segment. So it was a good heads up.
It was exactly right, and and the ball ended down
in the backyard. Here we're all set.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
See I liked it.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
In ten years are going to be saying, oh, look
at show, hey, Otani Day instead of Bobby Benia Day.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
The Dods paying him.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Thirty eight million dollars a year at least a metage
one point, you know, one nine million dollars.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Today, it's all a how you know what?

Speaker 8 (16:44):
You're exactly right, they'll be and my colleague Steve Phillips
will love that that it's no longer going to be
the Bobby Bonia day, that it's going to be the
Otani day. Yeah, that's that's a great point. We still
haven't quite figured out exactly the various tax jurisdictions on
that one based on where Showy is living in fifty

(17:07):
years when he's still collecting the money, but we will
leave that to other to other other jurisdictions on that
question as it goes forward.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
No, thank you, John Paul, I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
I with great futility every year JP trying to explain
why it all made sense, and people just give me
that glazed overlooks like shut up, he's getting paid and
hasn't played years.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
It made it probably made decent sense at the time, uh,
to someone at least, and and here he is. It is.
It is fascinating though that it basically Bunia had a
really good career. There was a period of time there
he was he wasn't bonds, but he was close and
he was a really good player, and I listen on

(17:54):
some levels some of the Mets. On some level this
this does keep his name alive for the modern fan.
I just hope that it doesn't trivialize too much what
was I would describe as objectively a pretty good career.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
All right, now, well we'll move on to other big
things in sport. But I want to say this year
while we're finishing on the Mets. A couple of times
a year, I call on you to, uh, you know,
because you said, hey, if I have something to say
constructive advice, because your former roommate, David Stearns one of
your best friends. You talked to him all the time,
and he runs the Mets. So I have one thing
I want you to pass along to all Right, it's
very impleasing to me. He's very important. Right now, bring

(18:31):
Grimace back. We need Grimace. What is he waiting for?
Grimmaz has to throw out the first pitch again. We've
lost thirteen of fifteen. We need Grimace back.

Speaker 8 (18:41):
Grimace.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
We can do.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
Glad that you did not say anything about the job
security of Carlos Mendoza, because this is not his fault. Okay,
this is I was actually speaking earlier today with a
dear friend of mine about the Mets, and he said
he was asking me. He didn't quite ask me the
same thing you just asked me, but similar woe is us?

(19:06):
And I basically said, when your pitching staff gets hurt
at the same time, it's not going to be pretty.
And it's not pretty right now for them, So bring
back Grimace. Yes, that's an easy one. I don't think
they should make any change to the coaching staff. I
do think they should try to trade for someone like
Adrian Hauser with the White Sox, your very own Chicago

(19:28):
White Sox. Actually, the two of you could probably make
that trade happen right now before the end of the segment,
the White Sox for the Mets to go back to
one of his former teams and resuscitate that situation. But
adamn Markez with the Rockies, they need help. They should
get it. I'll let Sternsy know.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
It's funny because Jason was just saying, I don't think
Jacob deGrom would go back.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
Wow, I hadn't even thought of that as being a possibility.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
We were just throwing names out of here.

Speaker 8 (20:02):
I don't think so, just because again, I love what
the Grama has done this year for the Rangers.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
There.

Speaker 8 (20:09):
While they may move some players, I don't think Jake's
gonna be one of them. It's a big time contract,
as you both know, and for someone who has had
injuries in the past, I cannot imagine Jacob mcgrammould want
to go back and h and just sort of sip
from the fountain of what is right now a very
injured pitching staff. I think he wants to keep his distance.

(20:31):
He probably feels quite comfortable right now in Arlington.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Texas, all right now?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Speaking of New York teams, John Paul, Yes, okay, the
Mets after but the Yankees, boy, you watch them. It
looked like they were gonna run away with the Al East,
and suddenly they've hit the skids. They lost two more
in a row, and now suddenly Toronto and Tampa Bay,
who were kind of just hanging around five hundred, they're
a game and a game and a half out. What's
your level of concern scale of one to ten for
the Yankees.

Speaker 8 (20:56):
I'm at about a seven, and I'm not a very
I tend to not be a reactionary person when it
comes to baseball slumps. But I look at this team
and say, the things that made them special, and Judge
is obviously Judge, He's in his own category. Jazz Chisholm

(21:17):
has actually played pretty well for them, but the things
that make them special. You look around their lineup, where
do they have true superstar separating talent on that team.
Judge Goldsmith's had a great year, Jazz weent healthy has
been really good, but they've got I think elsewhere. It's

(21:38):
someone in the normal range, average range of production. And
now the bill is coming due, I think for not
having Garrett Cole, the fifth spot of the rotation I
think is a bit of a concern. The fourth spot
is a concern. The bullpen is a concern, and you're
seeing now even when Judge goes through period of time

(22:00):
where he's just good as opposed to the best player
in the world, they're really vulnerable. There's no Sodo there anymore.
And Stanton of course is still just still working his
way back. Ben Rice is cooled off since the start
of the season. They're still a good team, but they're

(22:21):
not a great team, and they don't have even the
balance of a team like Detroit or Houston, and man,
this momentum that the Jays are building huge win Today
on Canada Day, the crowd was rocking at George Springer
a Grand Slam. If I'm the Yankees again, I'm not
panicking and all of a sudden I'm gonna miss the

(22:41):
playoffs because, after all, guys, it is the America League
of twenty twenty five. But I think the chance is real,
real that either the Rays or the Jays will pass them,
and honestly could happen before they also break.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Green and Carpenter and obviously school ball in on aunt.
How did the Tigers keep their edge with nothing to
play for in that division for the next three months.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
Well, I'll talk about Mom about this, okay, because she's
gonna say, Johnny, you gotta keep it going, you get
you gotta keep them hungry. So I do think playing
for home field advantage is significant. And the other thing
that is probably even more significant than the homefield advantage

(23:26):
piece is this group really does like playing together. And
there's a lot of young guys who are in similar positions.
Some of them actually a lot of them are still
trying to earn their first major payday in this sport.
And so I think there's enough, there's enough hunger there.
And then that's where I'm a believer that while people

(23:47):
might say, oh, this is just the start of the
Tigers win, no, listen, their farm systems excellent. Mcgonagall's elite,
Clark's elite, the guy guys in the minor leagues that
are really really good. But I've always said this, just
when you think that it's the start of your window,
you better win right now, because there's a really unique
chemistry to this team that I think is largely predicated
on the fact that a lot of their guys are

(24:08):
still young and hungry and are still trying to make
their way and make their money in this game, and
that's actually a pretty powerful thing. It's worked well for
the Brewers for a while. It's kind of been the
ethos of the Rays for most of the last decade
and a half, and they've had a lot of success
during that period of time. The Guardians have had varying
levels of that vibe at different points, so I think

(24:31):
it's a very healthy thing to have as a team,
and they seem to really have it. They like playing together.
Aj Ininsch is maybe the manager of the year this year,
but it's been a fun team to watch because they're
not dependent on one superstar. It's maybe again the opposite
of the Yankees. It's a really good one through nine,
and I think that's the biggest reason why they've got
a comfortable lead right now in the Big Ten of baseball,

(24:55):
the Midwest Division, of course, as we like to call
the American League Central.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So I ask you this, now we've seen three months
of baseball. We have three months of baseball to go.
It's pretty easy to see Tigers are the best team
in the American League. Dodgers are the best team in
the National League. If they played a best of seven
right now, If they played a best of seven right.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Now, Dodgers Tigers, who do you have winning?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And you gotta be truthful because I know your dad's
gonna call you after this to go you didn't pick
the Tigers. So seven game series right now? Dodgers Tigers,
Who wins?

Speaker 8 (25:27):
Detroit and Detroit. The reason I'm saying Detroit is is
I right now, I trust the Tigers' pitching depth in
terms of again what it's going to look like, not
just now, but in the later part of October, based
on all that we have seen. Who do feel more

(25:48):
comfortable about staying healthy and staying consistent as a staff
from now until the end of October. The Tiger staff
or the Dodgers staff, I would say the Tigers staff. Now. Offensively,
there's obviously Otani and Freeman are are in another world
and so and honestly, by the way, so is will Smith.

(26:09):
This season, he might win the batting title as a catcher,
which is really hard to do. But you know, Mookie's
had a bit of a tough year. I just think
that the way that you look at this from Detroit's perspective,
it's a it's a it's a lineup that balance is
right and left very very well. They're able to chase
slip the tun advantages here and there. Again, the Dodgers,

(26:33):
they beat the Yankees in five games last year. I
think that series was closer than that, And I just
think maybe they're just a tick more vulnerable this year.
The Dodgers are than they were a year ago, based
on just the ongoing pitching questions that I've got. So
does does that depend a little bit on on where
I live? Maybe I see the Tigers a lot. I

(26:53):
like their team that they've got a really, really nice
looking team. So I'm gonna believe in them until someone
tells me otherwise.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
So we still got a couple of weeks before we
get past the All Star break and towards that trade
deadline JP. But how much movement are you anticipating? Like
how much anxiousness do we have a month out?

Speaker 8 (27:10):
Yeah? I think it's still it's still developing, you know.
I was told recently that it's quite quiet in terms
of the GM level of actual negotiations on trades that
could happen, and I think it's because there's a lot
of teams that are still figuring out who they are.
I do think that'll change, probably as we emerge from

(27:31):
the All Star break. By then the draft will be
over and teams like the Orioles honestly, a team like
the Red Sox, I mean, you can't. They can't fool
anybody here. They should be sellers, and I suspect that
they'll move towards potentially doing that. I was told the
Rockies are all of a sudden more willing to actually

(27:52):
move their guys than they've been in a while. So
I think that the chess pieces are still getting to formulated.
But hey, when you're at when it's July one, It's
on thirty days of the deadline, so I do think
that it is no longer early and we'll start hearing
I think a bit more about where where these moves

(28:13):
could potentially happen as we get towards probably the middle
of the month.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi, that is at John
MOROSSI check him out on MLB Network.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
What game you got this week? John Paul? What are
you doing?

Speaker 8 (28:24):
So? I've gotten the Cubs and the Guardians rematch the
twenty sixteen World Series. I get to drive. I get
to drive it is, which is awesome. So, Mike, you
let me know if there's any big alumni events going
on your alma minor there in the Great City Chicago,
let me know. I'll stop by a salo on my
way to town.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
See if we can pull that off. Let's go, all right,
nothing else.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
We'll give you some credits at a couple of local establishments, all.

Speaker 8 (28:48):
Right, And I would love that. And again, I love
being able to drive, especially this time of year. Gas
up the car. I'm a Midwesterner. It's the fourth of July.
Hit the road, baby, I'm looking forward.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
To it, all right, we'll enjoy the weekend.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
And hey, before you hit the road, remember call Stirnsy
and say you bring back Grimace.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Okay, get a starter.

Speaker 8 (29:08):
If you can, but you gotta certainly deliver Grimace for
my buddy Jason Smith Grimmas first.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Then we'll work on a starting picture.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Okay, grip buddy, we'll talk you safe travels, buddy. No,
I get that right, because Grimace can help you right now.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Yes, you got it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
You got them on tomorrow. Yeah, you got a month
till the deadline.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Tomorrow, I got one.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Great. You can meander along a little bit longer and longer.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
We got a doubleheader against the Brewers tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Grimace. Grimace comes back tomorrow. We need Grimace tomorrow. That'd
be great tomorrow for Grimace. How about a couple of
other WWE superstars or something. Again, let's start with Grimace.
Let's start with Grimace and then go from there.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
How have they not come back to them at this point?

Speaker 6 (29:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
You've hit the mid point of the season.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
For a week and half. Bring what do we do
while we're losing games? Bring Grimace back?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Bring Grimace back? How do you not have them come back.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
What's not?

Speaker 4 (30:00):
I don't know who Grimas is, but bring it back.
I gotta doing that.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
You're doing a side told I don't know. I mean
the Yankees are doing the Costanza bobblehead. Tickets for the bobblehead.
The bobblehead sales are higher than the get in price
for that because it's it's Costanza's sleeping under under his head.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
That is a legit bobble.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Does it come with the faux Playboy magazine?

Speaker 5 (30:20):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
That, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Or maybe the talaries Georgie.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Maybe that's why it's uh so sought after. You never know.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well, they've done the Seinfeld Crew the last couple of years,
so you got to keep the set going. But this
one looks spectacular. Tomorrow's Yamamoto day. I just saw a
commercial where he was talking to his bobblehead. It was
next level stuff. Let's find out what's trending right now
the wide world of sports. So someone who's been called
the George Costanza of Fox Sports Radio, was that wrong?

Speaker 4 (30:48):
He walks around the hallway saying, this.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Is the summer of Steve.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's the summer of Steve.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
He's gonna eat a block of cheese like an apple.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
Did you hear Mike just say that the bobblehead is spectacular? Spectacular? Fact,
we have a Dodger lead of six to one over
the White Sox. In the bottom of the fifth, LA
scored four runs in the first. Now show, hey Otani
is in his thirtieth homer. Only once in the last
twenty five years we had three guys get to thirty
homers before the All Star break in twenty nineteen, it

(31:15):
was Pete Alonzo, Cody Bellinger and Christian Yelich. This year
to the thirty home run mark already Aaron Judge, Cal
Rawly and now show, Hey Otani. It's the Royals leading
at Seattle five to three in the bottom of the seventh.
The Diamondbacks are ready to send San Francisco to a
four straight losses eight to two Arizona. In the top

(31:35):
of the eight startersz At Gallen went seven innings with
ten strikeouts. Everything else is final wins for the Cubs
and the Angels. Wins for Houston and Texas Rangers ten
to two over Baltimore. Winning pitcher Jacob de gram Is
nine and two ERA two point one three had six
strikeouts in six innings tonight. In fact, de gram in
each of his last fourteen starts, has allowed two runs

(31:58):
or less six hits are less. That is the longest
streak by any traditional starter in the modern era of
Major League Baseball. Cincinnati at Boston suspended by rain after
three innings.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Boston's up two to one.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
That game continues Wednesday afternoon rainouts at Washington at Philadelphia
at the Mets, doubleheaders for all of them. Tomorrow. The
A's one in ten innings, four to three at Tampa
Bay Miami one, it's eighth in a row. Pittsburgh won
it's fifth straight game. Toronto on Canada Day, beat the
Yankees twelve to five. George Springer two homers, seven RBIs,

(32:31):
including a grand Slam Aaron Judge in the loss, single double,
three walks.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
And Canada had all their guys. They all they No
one called saying I'm opting out. It's been too long
of a season. Canada had all their guys for that game.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
They even had George Springer, who looked like he disconnected
his own next sliding head first into third yesterday. Kids
do not slide head first into a base. This is
why MLB All Star Game voting ends on Wednesday. You
know your fingers for Aaron Judge. NBA got those last boats. No,

(33:05):
they are an NBA MVP. Shay gilds Yous. Alexander agreed
to a four year Supermax extension. The Milwaukee Bucks are
waiving Damian Lillard to sign free agent center Miles Turner.
The seventy six ers are re signing Eric Gordon. Larry
Nance junior is signing with Cleveland. Tim Hardaway junior signing
with Denver. Guard Duncan Robinson.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
No other juniors, No other ju ju out? Yeah, John
Stark junior. Oh, No, okay.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
Guard Duncan Robinson left, James, Okay, Now we're talking about
NBA players. Guard Duncan Robinson left the Heat for Detroit.
The Raptors re signed center yacka Portal. The Nuggets acquired
Jonas Valenshunas from Sacramento for Dario Sarich w NBA. The
Commissioner's Cup Final was tonight, Indiana to not have Caitlin

(33:52):
Clark still out with a groin injury. Bots the fever
one at Minnesota seventy four fifty nine and the FISA
Collier of Minnesota six of eight eighteen shooting five turnovers.
Her team Minnesota was fourteen and two. They just won
in dominant fashion against lowly Connecticut on Sunday night, when
Collier at twenty three points.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Vec Collier and Clark were named the All.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Star Game captains and the rest of the starters named Monday,
including rookie Page Beckers. Indianapolis is going to be hosting
the WNBA All Star Game July nineteenth.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Hey,
after what we saw today in the NBA, it is
time to pay homage to the absolute end of an era.
It was not a long era, but it was a
big era. We have to celebrate it. That's next, Jason
and Mike Fox Era.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
Home Up.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
After what happened today in NBA Free agency, we have
to celebrate the end of an era.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
It's an era. It's a big era. It's not a
long error. It's not like by yeah, but it's something
that really and I can, I can.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
I can paint this in a way where it seems like,
even though this era is over and this team didn't
win a championship, they still kind of won.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Did you bring a cake?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
No, there's no cake. There's no cake.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
It's not a celebration.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Is a cake or it's a No, it's a celebration
on the radio. And if we want to, we can
have cake after Oh it doesn't matter. Yeah, uh, farewell,
Indiana Pacers will always have.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
The Spring of twenty twenty five, Miles Turner signs with
the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, in free agency, which is the most absolute gut
punch to the Pacers they could possibly have, because that's there, that's.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Literally walking across the street. Only about the.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Only thing worse would have been saying I'm going to
play for the Knicks, Right, That's the only thing that
would have been. Maybe, I don't know, because the regular
season rivalry is just that big a deal. But now
you're losing Miles Turner, right, You've lost him. Halliburton is
out for for most, if not all, of this year.
You're gonna lose other players, this era of the Pacers.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
This moment in time, they had. It's over right.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
This is not gonna be a pace team that suddenly, Hey,
we're showing up and we're all gonna hit three's when
weever we want to. And TJ. McConnell's gonna play like
Lebron when he goes in for twenty two minutes a night,
like they had this incredible moment this playoffs. And this
is where I mean, I'm being honest when I say this,
even though they didn't win the title like it would.
You know, when you look back in history and think of, Okay,

(36:37):
the spring of twenty twenty five, the NBA Playoffs, what
are you gonna think about the first team that's gonna
come to your mind of the Pacers, It's gonna be
the Pacers. Nick Series's gonna be the Pacers with all
their comebacks and the Pacers nearly getting there and Halliburton
becoming a star, and the drama with him and his
dad and Yannis. I mean, the Pacers really won because
they won the battle of Hey, what was this playoffs

(36:59):
all about? Isn't about Lebron? Even though the thunder one
and SGA won, it wasn't about them. It wasn't about
the Knicks, you know, it was almost about the knicks.
It was about the pacer. You will think back to, Wow,
this run the Pacers had. And you know when we
talked with Rick Buker a week ago and he was like,
you know, it's gonna be interesting to see how if
the Pacers lose this year's there was the middle of
the NBA Finals. He's be interesting to see how history

(37:22):
remembers this Indiana Pacers team.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
And on the court, it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Hey, the Pacers showing everybody what it means when you
can have five guys on the court at the same time.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
They condit a three.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
You know, not they hit him all the time, but
when this is how you're able to come back. It's
how they're able to come back in all these fourth
quarters of games because they would have five guys on
the floor and even though a couple of guys are
really good at shooting threes, anybody could. Miles Turner could
it one, right, Neie Smith could win them are good
at one. Like, that's something the teams are gonna take
away and say, we want to incorporate this. We want
all five of our guys to being able to hit

(37:51):
threes because comebacks are easy. You can't guard everybody, but
overall it's gonna be This is who the playoffs were about. Like,
this was about the Indiana Pacers, even though this era
is over, not like we thought it was going to
continue on next year because of the way they were
able to just defy the odds and overcome obstacles and
miracle shots and miracle comebacks.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
But I mean, they own the playoffs. It's not going
to be around for them again.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
And then but this this spring, this playoffs, this spring
of twenty twenty five, they owned the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Yeah, we look at their run and you know, injuries
happen over the course of playoff run, beneficiaries before the
the ultimate fall for for Halliburton, and and certainly Carlisle,
I think got some flowers, and rightly so for the
job that he did putting that squad out in positions

(38:41):
to stay in games, to fight through adversity late in games.
I mean, if nothing else, it's a coach's clinic. So
this is one that you know, you box up and
start sending the high school coach, here's how to motivate
your kids. Look at the Indiana Pacers, a team that
wouldn't die. That's really how you re because they didn't
win anything, so you can only celebrate it so far.

(39:03):
Right in the moment, it's like, wow, that was a
hell of a run. Five years from now, am I
remembering that run necessarily?

Speaker 4 (39:09):
No, I'm oh you to remember the year.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Remember the Halliburton shot against the Knicks and the choke
signal and all the comebacks and Haliburton getting hurt in
Game seven? What that could have meant for the Pacers
and winning. No, Okay, if you say, hey, twenty five
on the thunderbeat the Pacers, you're gonna think haliburt.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
No, you gonna have a hell of a run.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
And certainly Halliburton's dad being confined to the box for
a while and sent to the sin bin.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I don't discount that for what it meant.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
I think for the NBA as a whole, maybe there's
both from the Pacers side and for the roster construction
of the Thunder that we're seeing the shift, because also
the rules will make you shift, and we'll see how
how teams can can stay together or try to going
forward with the new aprons and everything else. But for

(39:57):
this perfect moment in time, as those rules come in
to focus. You saw a Pacers squad that just kept coming,
and certainly if you were on the wrong side of
those last second shots by Halliburton, you ain't forgetting those
runs anytime soon soon, and McConnell will haunt your dreams.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah no, but I got it.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
This was about them, This was this playoff. Even though
they didn't win, it was about them and that's kind
of a victory.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Well, I'm also taking the victory lap because Timbodeau did
still get fired like we said he would.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Before the playoffs started.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Coming up next, we break down the craziest NFL move
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