May 22, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith reacts to the Pacers stealing Game 1 from New York in The Garden: Plus, a visit from NBA Insider Ric Bucher joins the show to talk Jason off the ledge and help make sense of what we just witnessed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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your screen. So where we are now, I have nothing left.
I have nothing left. It's Game one of the Eastern
Conference Finals and it's not even over.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, lock it in and rip the knob off.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Let's go lead the Pacers one thirty one, one thirty
with a minute forty five left to go in overtime.
How did we get here? Because the Pacers down fourteen
with three and a half minutes left to go, keep
hitting threes and Tyrese Haliburton hits what looked like it
was a three that hits the back of the rim,
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bounces straight up in the air about eight feet, comes
back down through the hoop. However, he had his foot
on the line. Pretty easy to see his foot was
on the line, so no controversy there. But yet another
big hoop by the Pacers. They close incredibly, We're in
overtime with about a minute and a half left to go.
I just I just want to say, I hope the
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other ninety nine percent of NBA fans have enjoyed the
last few minutes of this.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Game, because I have not no, no, no, It's okay. The
other ninety nine percent of people, I hope they enjoy
it because I really have. Now for the radio audience,
if you you follow me on Twitter at Swollen Dome
I put out earlier, you know, hey join us as
Varsity Club assembles at seven o'clock because we'll watch and
live and die with you on each possession. I'm showing
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you the shot chart from the fourth quarter as we
sit here. You can't see it on the radio, but
all of the little blue dots for the Pacers from
three point range. Nick's pretty efficient in the paint. Not
so much from the outside. Yeah, absolute opposite. You saw
Nie Smith amongst others, and then your nemesis Nemhard shining
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bright as well both and he like neon lights. Yeah.
If it's shining on Broadway, it's any in the Pacers
in the playoffs, and it's the Knicks, you're going to
do well. So I hope everybody else can can enjoy
because I couldn't enjoy it. I could not enjoy go
well you did with the bottom man until the final
two and a half minutes right fourteen point lead on.
Jason asked me if I enjoyed it? Frostburg, did you
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enjoy it?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, remember that nine Burg's one of the ninety nine percent.
He was with me until the Knicks eliminated the Celtics,
and now he's away from it. He broke to Tokobe
in peace, accord, it's okay, and now here we are
he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Shut down the Avengers. Yeah, that's right, it's being shut
down Brunton out the free throw line. He hits both
free throws. The Knicks lead at one thirty three, one
thirty two with a little over a minute left to
go in overtime. Where we where if the Knicks lose
this game. I don't know, man, I don't know. If
the Knickson win another game this series, where does it rank?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And the all time collapses of playoff games every twenty years?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Apparently it's Reggie Miller with the choke sign. It's Halliburton
hitting the shot he thought would win the game, making
the choke sign thinking the game was over, not realizing
his foot was on the line. So when we wind
up going to overtime, they still have to play. I mean,
just an incredible run here in the last few minutes
that if the again, if the Knicks lose this game,
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Obi Toppen just got a rebound dunk former Nick to
give the Pacers the lead with about fifty five seconds
left to go. I mean, i'd really if the Knicks
lose this game, I don't know how you come back
from this the rest of the series. I how you
blow a fourteen point lead at home in game one.
I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, just said an amazing run you had. Haliburton with
a good ball, fake defender flies by, miss is the
three but top and comes flying in just in incredible sequencing.
Brunson makes the shot to put the Knicks ahead by one.
But living and dying with each possession are you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And Tyrese Halliburton, who is having the game of his
life right now. A big drive and dish for a layup.
Nempard goes in to give the Paces a one thirty six,
one thirty five lead. Time out on the floor now
with twenty six and a half seconds left to go.
I had to know what to say, Like, this is
a heavyweight fight, and sometimes game one can be everything.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Sometimes game one is just game one.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But wow, I'm telling you, man, if the Knicks lose
this game, I really I don't know how you come
back from this.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I really don't. Well, we've got cheated out of the
final minutes that we're supposed to be. Here's everybody on
celebrity row. I haven't gotten any of those. Wow, he's
almost gotten run over a couple of times, so that's
why he's near the chacers. Bench. No, he has not
as of yet. But yeah, I don't know that I've
actually seen Challaby. Did he stay home? I don't know,
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but you're guy nemhard. He's got fifteen all five starters
for the Pacers at least fourteen points scored. Turner had
that hot start. He's been a bystander here, you know,
still rebounding and doing the other work, but scoring column
being filled by everybody else on this squad right now.
Plus add ten from McConnell off the bench. Great balance
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as you would expect from the Pacers squad, but just
an insane final two and a half minutes of regulation,
leading overtime, wide open looks, good ball movement by the
Pacers and attempts to close out, but you leave your feet,
get taken by the ball fake and then it you
look around and you got some wide open looks. You know.
That's the thing is that the two things from this
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game is the Knicks missed two big free throws in
the final twenty five seconds. Karl Anthony Towns misses a
free throw and Ogiannu Noobi misses a free throw that
would have made this irrelevant because then it would have
been here's Halliburton shot potentially tie the games, but the
play would have probably unfolded differently because they would have
absolutely needed a three. So that's kind of where it
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would be.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But the fact that all you have to do when
you're up by that much, with that time left, with
that much time left, I don't know how you don't
just say, Okay, no threes, right, no threes.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That's what it is. No threes. Don't allow threes. And
and they just kept finding a way to get open
and get open, and get open. They kept finding a
way to get open, and and and the Knicks kept
allowing threes when it was clearly something that you needed
to not be able to to just dis just don't
allow it. Let them go, let them go in for laffs,
let them go twos or not threes.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And they kept getting threes, and now it looks like
the Pacers are going to have the ball with the lead.
In twenty five seconds left, there was a pass from
Ogianronobi to Jalen Brunson that goes off the hands. Nembard
gets his hand in there to deflect it, but it
looks like the ball deflects off of Nemhart and then
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hits Jalen Brunson. So the ball goes out of bounds.
Right now, it's Knick's ball, but it looks like they're
gonna reverse it and it's gonna go back to the Pacers.
An awful turnover by the Knicks here. I mean, I'm
telling you, like I'm seeing the end of this game going.
This is gonna be an all time one of the
all time worst losses in Nick's history that we're looking
at right now.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, Brunson reaching for the ball, trying to get it
in bounds as quickly as he could, you know, one
of those I know that's off me kind of moments,
and the look on his face, the countenance a bit dejected.
We don't normally see that from Brunson, but this one
a huge play, a huge challenge coming up here as
we've got eighteen point nine seconds remaining. But to your
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larger point, right, they did everything right. They were able
to time with Brunson on the bench in the second
we talked about it, seven minutes of your backups in
taking care of business, extending the lead. Later in the game,
he's in foul trouble, he's on the bench taking care
of business. Extending, maintaining the lead, and then you have
the final two and a half minutes that are worse
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than anything else going out from a twenty four at
stand ups and previews, you know, cinema con and all
of those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It looks like it's gonna be the ruling is coming in.
It is off Brunson, so they're putting time back on
the clock. So twenty seconds now left to go, but
the Knicks are gonna have to foil because the Pacers
have the ball they're up on. That is just a
horrendous turnover. Not a great pass by Anonnobe, but still
something that Brunson's got to get his hands on because.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Watching the replay, I don't even know if if Nebar
even got his hand on the ball. Looked like he
just got his hand in there and it went off
of Brunson and went out of bounds. I don't even
know that he got his hand on the ball. Yeah,
depending on the camerangle. The one we saw was a
bit inconclusive, but certainly it's moot at this point, clearly
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off Brunson.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
On the weekend, the ensuing possession right now still one
thirty six, one thirty five. Obi Toppin just gets the
inbounds pass and goes in for a slam.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He goes and this is an.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
NBA slam dunk contest dunk that he goes in for
to give the Pacers a one thirty six, a one
thirty eight, one thirty five lead now with fifteen seconds
left to go. So no trying to get to the
free throw line for the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
They go in, get the easy bucket, and so now
it's the Knicks with a three point facing a three
point deficit with fifteen seconds left to go. He was
fouled on the way up, but it doesn't look like
they called the foul. Again, I'm try trying to do
the show and talk about what happens. Yeah, he didn't
bear the brunt of it either. I get popped in
the face. Yeah, Mitchell Robinson went up and clearly committed
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a foul on top and I don't believe he got
whistled for it. So I think it's gonna wind up
being nick basketball with fifteen seconds left in their down three,
even though Brett Goldstein kept yelling whistle whistle, So where
so I got.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
The volume up here, guys, And it was hilarious and
you'll you'll hear it during the break. We can't play
it unless we bleep it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, oh okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And the ball went off Bronson. When they reversed the call,
somebody in the crowd yelled.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Bool, duty that was spike, Lee. I'm sure it was spiked.
Nobody told it. It might have been shallow may shout, hey,
shout drunk and an absolute catastrophe at the garden. What
looked like it was going to be a crowding achievement
and a blowout victory. Now we've got a three point game,
nixt looking to inbound with fifteen point three.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I mean again, this is gonna be disaster for the Knicks.
This is I really, I don't know how you would
come back after this. Jalen Brunson misses a three and
it goes. It doesn't even draw iron and Karl Anthony
Towns three hits the front of the rim with a
couple of seconds left to go. The Knicks now the
ball is out of bounds with two tenths of a
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second left to go. I believe it's Indiana basketball and
that's gonna do it. And the Pacers are going to
absolutely steal Game one, in a game the Knicks had
all but wrapped up. I oh, man, I don't know
what to say. I really I don't know what to say.
I gotta get my mind right, Harmon. I need to
time out. No, this was truly I need to time
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out of it.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Like you were calm, and I got to give you credit,
right because its close game first half. Maybe you were
just being nice to my ear drums. You weren't, you
weren't over the top, or maybe you just saw that
it was the Eastern Conference Finals so you needed to
be measured in your approach. Either way, I was very
concerned because we didn't get your normal Nick's vandom. And it's
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like who took it? Who took your soul? I mean
we were we were. That would be the Pacers up
by fourteen with three and a half left, and and
somehow a perfect ending by the Pacers is going to
wind up when they're gonna wind up winning this game
no matter who gets the basketball. There's two tents in
a second left, so it's gonna be an incredible Knicks collapse. Again.
I don't know how you come back the rest of
the series for this. I get too wide open looks
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here on this last possession, I could see. I could
see the Knicks losing by twenty in Game two. I
can see it happening.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I can There's no stopping Obie Topping on reel this guy.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Why you got Obie Topping jokes coming out of prosper
and former Nick Obi Topping. I mean, I mean, this
is going to go down as Okay or in Knicks
playoff history. It's gonna be the Reggie Miller, the threes
and the and and the choke, and it's going to
be this game. How do you what did you give
Topping for that dunk? On a scale of ten, That
was pretty good dunk. That's that's what you think because
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you get a nine, like it's do you make it?
You get a nine just.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Kind of cocked it once and dunked it. I've seen
better dunks, but in the middle of a game that
gets about.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It not just a game, This is game one of these.
Can you ai a key underneath it?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's a final now from the Garden Pacers win it
one thirty eight, one thirty five. I can't wait for
the post game, Well, actually I can. I can wait
for you know what you basketball basketball is canceled. Basketball
is canceled.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's it. It's canceled. It's not. It's darkness, mild friend,
at least the me's one exit. How about a fresco exit.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Swalling down, We will break down one of the biggest
comebacks and one of the biggest chokes in NBA playoff history.
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Speaker 2 (14:41):
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Speaker 4 (14:52):
Ill a Perton inbounded it right to Towns who couldn't
get the three pointer off in time, and the Pacers
get the job done, walking off with their heads held high,
stunning this home Nick crowd with a one thirty eight,
one thirty five overtime win, overcoming his seventeen point fourth
quarter deficit. I take a one nothing in the Eastern
Conference Finals series lead.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Had a big lead, Bud blew it down the stretch,
cat giving up threes and missing free throws and allowing
that big three. Hella Burton makes the choke sign. Hell
p Burton wanted him to eat it in over time.
They couldn't do it, and they lost.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen.
I I saw it, I watched it. I still can't
believe what I just saw. Yeah, A fourteen point lead
for the Knicks with three and a half left to go,
a nine point lead with fifty one seconds left to go,
but Aaron Smith scores twenty points in the fourth quarter,
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including six threes.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Tyrese Halliburton ties it with a jumper that bounces off
the back of the iron eight feet in the air
and comes back down through the hoop. The Pacers win
it in overtime, and I don't know. I don't know
if the Knicks can take a game here at this point.
I don't know how you come back from this. I
really don't. This may be the worst Knicks playoff loss,
and this may be worse than the Reggie Miller game
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in ninety five. This may be the worst loss because
of all of what goes along with this. It's the
Pacers again. You get the choke sign, a miracle three
that shouldn't have even went. Really, I don't know how
you come back from this. I really don't.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Uh Now, someone who might maybe feel better or may say, yeah, Jason,
this is how it's going. Fox Sports one NBA Insider Extraordinaire.
Check him out on the Odd the Ball podcast as
well on Twitter at Rick Buker. It is longtime friend
of the show, Rick Buker, Rick, what's happening.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Man, Oh, you know say it? You know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The struggle is real.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Ricks are happening, Jason. Yeah, the Pacers, they're happening. Hey,
it's just one game. At It's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, he's trying to figure out how to compose himself
at this point. Sorry, Rick, he's he's going through it,
that fourteen point lead, two and a half left and
then unable to close out and it becomes ni Smith,
so use it tomorrow and he kneon shining light on Broadway.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Hey, it's only one game, Jason, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Rick, this is this is like one hundred games. This
is sometimes sometimes game one is game one. Sometimes game
one is everything. I don't know. I don't know how
you Rick, it's a fourteen point lead at home. You
blow it. All you have to do is keep saying
in the huddle, no threes, guys, last year, no threes,
no threes. Guess what.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Pacers keep hitting threes, pay keep hitting threes. And Halliburton
hits that miracle shot does the choke sign? I wanted
the Knicks to make him eat it in overtime. But no, no, no,
can't stop me.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
O T.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Halliburton picks tonight to be the great Halliburton, and now
it's one. I really, mentally, I don't know where you
go from here. I really don't.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I don't honestly, I don't think you're giving these Nicks
enough credit. I do think that they are mentally tougher
than that. And look, Indiana, certainly, the Pacers have nothing
to lose. They're coming in with a ton of confidence,
as they should. I expected this to be a very
dramatic series. I had no idea that we were going
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to get Game one like this. I thought the Knicks
would win Game one. I thought it would be close.
I was surprised that they were winning a game that
was as high scoring as this one was. And uh
and then lo and behold. It was like, oh, I
guess they're not so. But I just look, a lot
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of things have to go right for obviously for the
Pacers to pull this out. And yes, the Knicks had
I had that big lead, but I don't think there's
the Boston Celtics. I think they can look at a
lot of things. I think they got a little three
point happy down the stretch instead of continuing to attack
the rims and and and that was their downfall. And
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then you had Jalen Brunston, who was you know, with
five fouls, kind of had to play different. Uh. It
is interesting how they're they are attacking him at the
defensive end, and they're going to have to figure something
out when it comes to that. But these teams are
so evenly matched that. Uh. And we've seen you said
the great we saw the great Ty Halliburton tonight. We've
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seen times where we don't see the great Ty halliburt.
So I don't at this point in the playoffs. I
don't expect what we've seen to this point changed dramatically.
And what we've seen to this point is a New
York Knicks team that has that that is battle tested,
that's had to go through, uh, taking a couple of
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punches and responding to them. Maybe not any as dramatic
and big as this one, but but they've had to
answer the bell. They did it, they've had to do
it from the first from the first series. And conversely,
we've seen Indiana be up and down at times. So honestly,
I still think that this is going to be a
very long series. And while I think it puts the
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Knicks on their back foot at this point, I still don't.
I don't eliminate the possibility of them still winning the series.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Now clearly a miserable seven and a half minutes of
basketball as we're chronicling Rick, But before that, the second
quarter to me stood out as a giant growth moment
for the Knicks, where they were able to let Jalen
Brunson sit for almost seven minutes. So, I mean, I
think that would bode well for future returns that you've
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saw some semblance of continuity that had eluded them in
the past.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah. I mean a lot of that was built on
Campaign hitting a couple of threes, which he generally has
not done in the playoffs. Sure, and but Ogo and
Noby sort of taking over UH for for a period.
So yeah, I mean the fact is that Timms is
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playing a deeper rotation at this point, and and they
have to have that you, I mean, pay Payne has
to get minutes, McBride has to get minutes. Mitchell Robinson
obviously is going to get minutes. If if if he
can play eight consistently, UH, and they can contribute, then
I don't think that the depth that the Pacers have
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is going to be the issue. It really comes down
to your stars have to outplay their stars and and
or or even up their score their stars, and then
you have to have that next player down the line contribute.
And that player for the Pacers tonight was was in
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was a Nie Smith And uh and I don't know
that the Knicks necessarily got that from from a third
or fourth guy.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Here's how here's how bizarro this few minutes is right here.
I don't think the Knicks are going to win a game,
and Rick is saying it's gonna be a long series.
Nicks are bouncing back like our roles. It's like we
did Freaky Friday, Rick, and we ran into each other
and I'm you and you're me right now?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's well, you know what I do.
What I can't Sason.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
See me? I go Rick. In a week that it's
been all conspiracies for the NBA. After the ratings came
out for Game one of the Western Conference, I'd bet
more confident that the Knicks are going to make this
a longer series. How's that?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
No doubt about it? I mean we're like, look, we're
I do a lot of TV these days, and you know,
the talker around the studio is, can we okay, we
can't get Minnesota, can we at least of New York?
Because Indiana? Okay? See, oh my god, what are we
going to do? Who's going to be tuning in to
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get the latest updates on the series? No offense to
all my friends in Oklahoma City and Indianapolis, but the
reality is the size of those markets and their respective
teams do not draw a ton of national interests. But
I do believe in the big picture, this is what
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Adam Silver wants because he's no longer looking at the
national audience as a thing that they're trying to attract.
He's trying to go to a global audience. And I
think that if you have a variety of teams competing
for titles, I think that spreads the wealth and that
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gives the opportunity for more fans around the globe who
if they're not watching then I mean watching games. The
majority of the globe is not watching games. They're watching
highlights and they're buying merchandise, and that's where the NBA
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is making its money. So it goes to it's natural
to think that the more teams that you have competitive,
the more jerseys you're going to sell.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Well that's what I said, Rick after the game.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I said, at least the ninety nine percent of NBA
fans enjoyed the last few minutes in overtime of this game.
I didn't, but at least ninety nine percent of the
fans did. Okay, great, all right, got that's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I mean, I think, Jason, sometimes we have to make sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, take one for the team. It's a greater good thing, right,
it's a greater good.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
But I mean, this is your night. Take one for
the team.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Rick, I hear what you're saying on all of this,
but I mean, honestly, this may be the most devastating
Knicks playoff loss in franchise history. Fourteen point lead with
two and a half left to go. Wait, like we
got a stat coming up on what team's wrecords are
in the play Else we have a fourteen point lead
with two and a half minutes left to go, and
not just that, it's to the Pacers, and it's a
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miracle shot at the end, and Halliburton does the choke
sign and they lose an overtime and it's like, I mean,
I hear all you're saying, but all I keep saying
is I don't know. I still feel like I got
punched in the face like twenty times. I need smelling salts.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Yeah, when you put it that way, you're right. The
series is over. No, I look, I get that, But
but missus Lincoln, how was the play? Yeah? I uh no,
I get all that, But I really the question is
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are the players either buying into all that or are
they feeling all that? Are they feeling all that history?
Are they feeling all of that absolute gloom of doom.
I think a Knicks fan who has lived through all
of those things, it's feeling that a lot more than
(26:04):
in that locker room, just because it's kind of the
league that we're seeing now, which is crazy things happen.
I mean, how many record comebacks have we had? So
I don't know that they're looking at it from quite
the same historical perspective and saying, you know what, we
just suffered the worst loss in New York Knicks playoff history.
(26:30):
I still think there's a part of them that has
to be thinking we're the first mixed team in forever
that has actually made the Eastern Conference Finals and it's
Game one, and yes we lost it on our home floor,
and we blew a big lead, but we have demonstrated
that we have the capability of our racing big leads
(26:52):
and winning games down the stretch as well. So look,
Indiana did to us what we have done, what we
did to the defending champs, and so now we have
to go back and do it to them. And that
would be my That would be my rallying cry if
I was Tims and giving the speech after this.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Get you now, I have to contact all your producers
for the TV show over there on FS one. To
find Spike Lee at can the Camp Film Festival and
see how he's doing at rick Yukers where you find
him on Twitter. You see him on FS one. Here,
I'm here with us each and every week Jason Smith
Show with Me Mike carmon Fox Sports Radio MVP finally announced, Rick,
(27:31):
were you surprised that there was such a disparity in
the seventy one to twenty nine final?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I actually was. I thought it would be I thought
it would be a lot closer. And you know, the
difficulty is that announcing it so late in the process
and The reason for that, I was told is they
don't really like to announce it in the second week
of any round, and they didn't want the MVP to
(27:58):
be announced before any of the other awards. So that's
the reason. Whether you buy that or not, that's sort
of the explanation that the league, that the League is
giving for it coming out so late. The problem with
it coming out so late is now everybody's taking the
Nuggets Thunder theories as a referendum on whether it was
(28:18):
deserved or not, and it's like it's a regular season awards.
The votes were in, and you know, at that when
we were going through the first round, I heard just
as much about, you know, SDA is probably going to
win and it's going to be the greatest injustice ever.
I don't have a problem with SDA winning. He wasn't
at the top of my ballot. I was one of
(28:38):
the twenty nine that voted for Jokic simply because I
thought he was far more indispensable to the Nuggets success
than Shay Gilds Alexander was to the Thunder. And I
am fully aware of the disparity in wins and all
of that, but I just thought that that Jokic had
(29:01):
an extraordinary, extraordinary season, and I can't I just couldn't
say that about about Shay. He had a great season.
He was the best player on on on the winning
this winningest team.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
And for some people, that's the definition of m v
P or it it's Trump's what whatever, you know. My
My definition that I just I just gave you is
that's the beauty of this. And I think it's it's
I like it is that the NBA has never defined
what most Valuable Player is supposed to be, so everybody
(29:39):
has the opportunity to interpret it in their own way
and it as a result, we have a lot of
debate and conversation, and uh, you know, for the business
we're in, I think that that's good and and because
it would I think it would be kind of cookie
cutter if we tried to put parameters parameters on it,
and we we might have the opportunity of the sing
(30:00):
out on somebody that that actually deserved it.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is at Rick Buker.
Check him out on FS one tomorrow, probably next to
a very happy Paul Pierce. I'm thinking Paul Pierce is
going to come in with a Haliburton Jersey, Nie Smith Jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh man, he's gonna oh yeah, it's gonna be a
happy Paul Pierce tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, he's gonna jump out of the wheelchairs, crip walking.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Rick, Thanks a bunch man. We'll talk to you next week.
Have a great one.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
My pleasure, mental health, mental health.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's gonna be a lot. I really, honestly,
I just want to throw up, go to bed, and
wake up after game two is over. That's really what
I want to do. Should I get you want to do?
I want to I'll tell you this is it's not
I'm not good, my Carmen. No, I know I watched
it and you got Quyatt, which is which is worse
(30:52):
than screaming Jason Smith. I am not good. I'm not good.
So I get at home like I'm growing up with
my dad right when he was quiet. That's when you
knew you screwed up, and you're trying to figure out
which thing you just got caught doing or one of
your brothers got caught doing. No, I didn't. Well, it
(31:13):
was eerie least similar and not that my dad was
ranting and raining all the time. But it was the
idea that you weren't conversational. You got quiet, very clinical
in terms of your description of what was going on,
as opposed to the man I've watched for eleven years
ride highs and lows with the squad. This was just
a almost like you saw it coming, Jason.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
You think you're upset, now you wait till you hear
Rick Kloh he's going off on the next.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is he really?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, he's gonna have some some quotes that you're not
gonna like.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Okay, well we'll have him and we'll have tips. Because
I think TIBs was doing one answer, one one word answer,
isn't then he thought somebody, oh good, uh, time out
to find out what's trending in the wide role of sports.
And someone who's been called the TIBs of Fox Sports Radio.
Sometimes you ask your questions that she just has one
word answers.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's Monty Belagya.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Yeah, that was a game.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
I'm sorry, Jason, that was rough, almost as.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Bad as like the Clippers. I feel with you.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Final score one thirty eight to one thirty five. A
little bit of what Tom Thibodeau has said after since
the game.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
There's obviously disappointment when you fall short, you know, but
it doesn't. We have to take a look at the film,
make our corrections, and then we got to change quickly
for game two. We got to be ready for Game two,
and that's all you look at. So you have to
take disappointment turn that into more determination.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
More determination coming from the Knicks hopefully for Game two.
Other NBA news shake Gildas Alexander winning the NBA's MVP
Award for the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five season.
In baseball, we've got some games going on. We weren't
really watching because of that Knicks game, but the Diamondbacks
did score against the Dodgers Kit tell Marte with a
(32:56):
solo shot.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
They're up one zero, bottom of the sixth inning.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
The Angels have had some more runs against the A's
at sixty three top of the fifth inning. Earlier today,
the Yankees walked it off against the Rangers four to three.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Thanks to Jason Dominguez.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Dalton Varshow had a grand Slam as the Blue Jay
shut out the Padres fourteen zero. And really early today,
the Orioles snapped in a game losing streak, So yay,
Orioles fans. They beat the Brewers eight four in eleven
innings in the NHL Playoffs. It was Game one of
the West Final and the Stars came back to defeat
the Oilers sixty three.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Game two will be on Friday.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
In the NFL, the Colts announced that their owner and
CEO Jim Erse passed away peacefully in his sleep this afternoon.
He was sixty five, while the Titans signed their number
one overall pick cam Ward to his four year, fully
guaranteed forty eight point seven million dollar contract.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
So no Rolexes gods die after this guy.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You what you want to watch? It's got the triple
L in it now REALX. Thank you Monson, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next. You know, listen some stats. We don't tons
of stats because stats are like, okay, you can hear
stats that kind of go in one ear out the other.
We brought to that.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Great one last night about Caitlin Clark already tied for
the most twenty ten games twy points tennis games in
WNBA history with ten all right.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Amazing play one games right, forty one games. Courtney van
der Sloot's played five hundred games and has ten Right,
that's amazing. We have a stat coming up next from
this Knicks Pacers game that's gonna make that look like
a kid giving out candy. Why do we give you this?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
It is?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It is amazing. What we're gonna tell you. Coming up next,
Jason and my Fox Sports Radio songs for you. Jason,
I like the end of the world. Better be sure
to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific,
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. You know, I closed my eyes, I blinked,
(34:58):
I splashed water on, I walked out of the bathroom,
going I'm walking back into a new reality. Or the
Knicks one. Nope, Nope, still Pacers one, one thirty eight,
one thirty five. Well, I mean it might be in
one of those alternate earths. You and Patrick are getting
into a deep discussion of all these weird realities in
the Marvel universe. So maybe you'll wake up in one
(35:19):
of those. I hope so. I hope so I'll wake
up in that in that alternate universe where Jan Soda
is hitting, and the knicks are up and you don't
miss twelve free throws in the final moments. You know,
all of those things, just a couple of things. This
incredible game, the way it ends before I give you
this stat that's just gonna absolutely blow you away. Already
(35:40):
Tyrese Halliburton's jumper that bounced off the back iron, up
and through and the choke sign is going to be
it already is It's going to be one of the
most popular highlights in the history of the NBA. They're
going to play that thing forever well because it links
to generations. They're gonna play it for it because he
does the choke sign just like Reggie Miller did. Like,
(36:02):
they're gonna play that thing for I mean the rest
of my life too, the rest of my life they're
gonna play Now, it's not so much about the hell
they'll take it. They'll back a free for the moon.
(36:28):
Reggie Miller cackling like a madman, Reggie Miller, the laughing
guy in the background there. I mean, really, it's it's
a it's going to be one of the biggest highlights
the NBA's there, and they're gonna play it for. I mean,
it's gonna live forever. It's gonna be fifty years from now,
you're gonna still be seeing we still play the Reggie
Miller choke thing. And that was in nineteen ninety five.
They still play that, right, they still play. They're gonna
(36:49):
play this thing. This is gonna live for. He created
an NBA all time moment that I'm gonna have to
watch for the next thirty years. What's the fine he's
got to get fine, fine, go fine choke signs. Don't
you get that out?
Speaker 6 (37:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I wish it would have called it technical. Oh it's
a tea. It's not quite a throat slash, but I
mean Brunson's at the free throw line for two with
no time left. Uh, really, it's a it's a fair time.
It's an all time NBA highlight that we are seeing there.
The Knicks turn the ball over at the end of regulation,
they miss free throws. Just an absolute choke fest. And yeah,
(37:28):
Halliburton makes the choke sign. Now here comes the stat
I was telling you about this again.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
This.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I'm doing the show tonight for the ninety nine percent
of the people who are happy what they saw I
understand that in the history of the NBA. Okay, this
has now been the number is now official after seeing
it bandied about over the last few minutes a lot
of people and big NBA check marks teams with a
fourteen point lead and two fifty left to go in
(37:58):
a game, right, so, with two minutes and fifty seconds
left to go in the game and a fourteen point lead,
because that's the Knicks had right now, fourteen point lead
two minutes and fifty seconds left. Coming into tonight, teams
were nine hundred and seventy seven and oh up by
fourteen at least with two fifty left in the game.
Said nine hundred, nine hundred and seventy seven and oh
(38:22):
make it nine hundred and seventy seven and one.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Also the fourth time this postseason that they've been down
at least fifteen points and came back to win. Well,
this fourth time done that.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
This dives into the other stat that is maybe even
more impressive. But just think about that, teams were nine
hundred and seventy seven and OH up by fourteen with
two fifty left to go. Teams that are up by
seven with fifty seconds left, Okay, up by seven points
with fifty seconds left. Since nineteen ninety seven, teams are
(38:55):
seventeen hundred and two up and four down. Again, if
you had a seven and more point lead, they had
a nine point lead with fifty seconds left, seven and
more point lead with fifty seconds left to go in
the game. Teams are seventeen hundred and two wins and
four losses since nineteen ninety seven. Right, that sounds amazing.
(39:15):
Three of those four losses are because the Pacers did
that in this playoff, in this playoffs and the playoff.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
They have three.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
They gave teams three of those four losses up by
seven with fifty seconds left and they come.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Back to win, so one in each round. Right yeah, yeah?
So Game five, Game two, Game one, here we go.
That's chaos. I mean, Carlisle starting to really look like
Robert Carlisle too. He's gonna be Rumpel, still skinned or
in the full money.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I I am just I am blown away. I'm blown away.
We have two hours left to the show. I'm blown away.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
You're just looking to put your head set down? And
whych I mean when I said I wanted to throw up,
go to sleep and wake up after game two like
This is how I would feel when I was younger
with big Mets and Jets losses. I mean, the Knicks
didn't lose them any games like this because they weren't good.
Yeah yeah, but like this is after there were no expectations.
I don't try to get on the internet. I don't
want to see anything. I want to.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I want to go on vacation and I want to
come back the next week after the next game is over.
I want to That's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But I can't. I can't because because you know this
is what we do. You're not being controlled by WWE
superstar Grayson Waller, who's a Pacers fan. I mean, just
up and down the line. It's really escalating quickly, am
I really? Because didn't even I didn't know if I
can get in the square circle right now, I just yes.
I don't know what to say. I have no fight
left in me. I have no fight. This could have
killed me. It's lots could have killed me right now. Man,
(40:44):
there there he is at the gardens.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Uh. If that's not enough, you have to hear coming
up next, what PACER's head coach Rick Carlyle had to
say about Halliburton's You following the game, it is must listen.
Rick Carlysle Coming up next, Jason and Mike Fox
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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So be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the
iHeartRadio app. It'll always pop up at the top of
your screen. So where we are now, I have nothing left.
I have nothing left. It's Game one of the Eastern
Conference Finals and it's not even over.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, lock it in and rip the knob off.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Let's go lead the Pacers one thirty one, one thirty
with a minute forty five left to go in overtime.
How did we get here? Because the Pacers down fourteen
with three and a half minutes left to go, keep
hitting threes and Tyrese Haliburton hits what looked like it
was a three that hits the back of the rim,
(01:27):
bounces straight up in the air about eight feet, comes
back down through the hoop. However, he had his foot
on the line. Pretty easy to see his foot was
on the line, so no controversy there. But yet another
big hoop by the Pacers. They close incredibly, We're in
overtime with about a minute and a half left to go.
I just I just want to say, I hope the
(01:50):
other ninety nine percent of NBA fans have enjoyed the
last few minutes of this.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Game, because I have not no, no, no, It's okay. The
other ninety nine percent of people, I hope they enjoy
it because I really have. Now for the radio audience,
if you you follow me on Twitter at Swollen Dome
I put out earlier, you know, hey join us as
Varsity Club assembles at seven o'clock because we'll watch and
live and die with you on each possession. I'm showing
(02:16):
you the shot chart from the fourth quarter as we
sit here. You can't see it on the radio, but
all of the little blue dots for the Pacers from
three point range. Nick's pretty efficient in the paint. Not
so much from the outside. Yeah, absolute opposite. You saw
Nie Smith amongst others, and then your nemesis Nemhard shining
(02:38):
bright as well both and he like neon lights. Yeah.
If it's shining on Broadway, it's any in the Pacers
in the playoffs, and it's the Knicks, you're going to
do well. So I hope everybody else can can enjoy
because I couldn't enjoy it. I could not enjoy go
well you did with the bottom man until the final
two and a half minutes right fourteen point lead on.
Jason asked me if I enjoyed it? Frostburg, did you
(02:58):
enjoy it?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Hell?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, remember that nine Burg's one of the ninety nine percent.
He was with me until the Knicks eliminated the Celtics,
and now he's away from it. He broke to Tokobe
in peace, accord, it's okay, and now here we are
he's gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Shut down the Avengers. Yeah, that's right, it's being shut
down Brunton out the free throw line. He hits both
free throws. The Knicks lead at one thirty three, one
thirty two with a little over a minute left to
go in overtime. Where we where if the Knicks lose
this game. I don't know, man, I don't know. If
the Knickson win another game this series, where does it rank?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And the all time collapses of playoff games every twenty years?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Apparently it's Reggie Miller with the choke sign. It's Halliburton
hitting the shot he thought would win the game, making
the choke sign thinking the game was over, not realizing
his foot was on the line. So when we wind
up going to overtime, they still have to play. I mean,
just an incredible run here in the last few minutes
that if the again, if the Knicks lose this game,
(03:54):
Obi Toppen just got a rebound dunk former Nick to
give the Pacers the lead with about fifty five seconds
left to go. I mean, i'd really if the Knicks
lose this game, I don't know how you come back
from this the rest of the series. I how you
blow a fourteen point lead at home in game one.
I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, just said an amazing run you had. Haliburton with
a good ball, fake defender flies by, miss is the
three but top and comes flying in just in incredible sequencing.
Brunson makes the shot to put the Knicks ahead by one.
But living and dying with each possession are you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And Tyrese Halliburton, who is having the game of his
life right now. A big drive and dish for a layup.
Nempard goes in to give the Paces a one thirty six,
one thirty five lead. Time out on the floor now
with twenty six and a half seconds left to go.
I had to know what to say, Like, this is
a heavyweight fight, and sometimes game one can be everything.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Sometimes game one is just game one.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But wow, I'm telling you, man, if the Knicks lose
this game, I really I don't know how you come
back from this.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I really don't. Well, we've got cheated out of the
final minutes that we're supposed to be. Here's everybody on
celebrity row. I haven't gotten any of those. Wow, he's
almost gotten run over a couple of times, so that's
why he's near the chacers. Bench. No, he has not
as of yet. But yeah, I don't know that I've
actually seen Challaby. Did he stay home? I don't know,
(05:18):
but you're guy nemhard. He's got fifteen all five starters
for the Pacers at least fourteen points scored. Turner had
that hot start. He's been a bystander here, you know,
still rebounding and doing the other work, but scoring column
being filled by everybody else on this squad right now.
Plus add ten from McConnell off the bench. Great balance
(05:40):
as you would expect from the Pacers squad, but just
an insane final two and a half minutes of regulation,
leading overtime, wide open looks, good ball movement by the
Pacers and attempts to close out, but you leave your feet,
get taken by the ball fake and then it you
look around and you got some wide open looks. You know.
That's the thing is that the two things from this
(06:01):
game is the Knicks missed two big free throws in
the final twenty five seconds. Karl Anthony Towns misses a
free throw and Ogiannu Noobi misses a free throw that
would have made this irrelevant because then it would have
been here's Halliburton shot potentially tie the games, but the
play would have probably unfolded differently because they would have
absolutely needed a three. So that's kind of where it
(06:22):
would be.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But the fact that all you have to do when
you're up by that much, with that time left, with
that much time left, I don't know how you don't
just say, Okay, no threes, right, no threes.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That's what it is. No threes. Don't allow threes. And
and they just kept finding a way to get open
and get open, and get open. They kept finding a
way to get open, and and and the Knicks kept
allowing threes when it was clearly something that you needed
to not be able to to just dis just don't
allow it. Let them go, let them go in for laffs,
let them go twos or not threes.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And they kept getting threes, and now it looks like
the Pacers are going to have the ball with the lead.
In twenty five seconds left, there was a pass from
Ogianronobi to Jalen Brunson that goes off the hands. Nembard
gets his hand in there to deflect it, but it
looks like the ball deflects off of Nemhart and then
(07:14):
hits Jalen Brunson. So the ball goes out of bounds.
Right now, it's Knick's ball, but it looks like they're
gonna reverse it and it's gonna go back to the Pacers.
An awful turnover by the Knicks here. I mean, I'm
telling you, like I'm seeing the end of this game going.
This is gonna be an all time one of the
all time worst losses in Nick's history that we're looking
at right now.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, Brunson reaching for the ball, trying to get it
in bounds as quickly as he could, you know, one
of those I know that's off me kind of moments,
and the look on his face, the countenance a bit dejected.
We don't normally see that from Brunson, but this one
a huge play, a huge challenge coming up here as
we've got eighteen point nine seconds remaining. But to your
(07:57):
larger point, right, they did everything right. They were able
to time with Brunson on the bench in the second
we talked about it, seven minutes of your backups in
taking care of business, extending the lead. Later in the game,
he's in foul trouble, he's on the bench taking care
of business. Extending, maintaining the lead, and then you have
the final two and a half minutes that are worse
(08:19):
than anything else going out from a twenty four at
stand ups and previews, you know, cinema con and all
of those kind of things.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It looks like it's gonna be the ruling is coming in.
It is off Brunson, so they're putting time back on
the clock. So twenty seconds now left to go, but
the Knicks are gonna have to foil because the Pacers
have the ball they're up on. That is just a
horrendous turnover. Not a great pass by Anonnobe, but still
something that Brunson's got to get his hands on because.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Watching the replay, I don't even know if if Nebar
even got his hand on the ball. Looked like he
just got his hand in there and it went off
of Brunson and went out of bounds. I don't even
know that he got his hand on the ball. Yeah,
depending on the camerangle. The one we saw was a
bit inconclusive, but certainly it's moot at this point, clearly
(09:10):
off Brunson.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
On the weekend, the ensuing possession right now still one
thirty six, one thirty five. Obi Toppin just gets the
inbounds pass and goes in for a slam.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He goes and this is an.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
NBA slam dunk contest dunk that he goes in for
to give the Pacers a one thirty six, a one
thirty eight, one thirty five lead now with fifteen seconds
left to go. So no trying to get to the
free throw line for the Pacers.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
They go in, get the easy bucket, and so now
it's the Knicks with a three point facing a three
point deficit with fifteen seconds left to go. He was
fouled on the way up, but it doesn't look like
they called the foul. Again, I'm try trying to do
the show and talk about what happens. Yeah, he didn't
bear the brunt of it either. I get popped in
the face. Yeah, Mitchell Robinson went up and clearly committed
(10:07):
a foul on top and I don't believe he got
whistled for it. So I think it's gonna wind up
being nick basketball with fifteen seconds left in their down three,
even though Brett Goldstein kept yelling whistle whistle, So where
so I got.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
The volume up here, guys, And it was hilarious and
you'll you'll hear it during the break. We can't play
it unless we bleep it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, oh okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And the ball went off Bronson. When they reversed the call,
somebody in the crowd yelled.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Bool, duty that was spike, Lee. I'm sure it was spiked.
Nobody told it. It might have been shallow may shout, hey,
shout drunk and an absolute catastrophe at the garden. What
looked like it was going to be a crowding achievement
and a blowout victory. Now we've got a three point game,
nixt looking to inbound with fifteen point three.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I mean again, this is gonna be disaster for the Knicks.
This is I really, I don't know how you would
come back after this. Jalen Brunson misses a three and
it goes. It doesn't even draw iron and Karl Anthony
Towns three hits the front of the rim with a
couple of seconds left to go. The Knicks now the
ball is out of bounds with two tenths of a
(11:17):
second left to go. I believe it's Indiana basketball and
that's gonna do it. And the Pacers are going to
absolutely steal Game one, in a game the Knicks had
all but wrapped up. I oh, man, I don't know
what to say. I really I don't know what to say.
I gotta get my mind right, Harmon. I need to
time out. No, this was truly I need to time
(11:38):
out of it.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Like you were calm, and I got to give you credit,
right because its close game first half. Maybe you were
just being nice to my ear drums. You weren't, you
weren't over the top, or maybe you just saw that
it was the Eastern Conference Finals so you needed to
be measured in your approach. Either way, I was very
concerned because we didn't get your normal Nick's vandom. And it's
(12:04):
like who took it? Who took your soul? I mean
we were we were. That would be the Pacers up
by fourteen with three and a half left, and and
somehow a perfect ending by the Pacers is going to
wind up when they're gonna wind up winning this game
no matter who gets the basketball. There's two tents in
a second left, so it's gonna be an incredible Knicks collapse. Again.
I don't know how you come back the rest of
the series for this. I get too wide open looks
(12:24):
here on this last possession, I could see. I could
see the Knicks losing by twenty in Game two. I
can see it happening.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I can There's no stopping Obie Topping on reel this guy.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Why you got Obie Topping jokes coming out of prosper
and former Nick Obi Topping. I mean, I mean, this
is going to go down as Okay or in Knicks
playoff history. It's gonna be the Reggie Miller, the threes
and the and and the choke, and it's going to
be this game. How do you what did you give
Topping for that dunk? On a scale of ten, That
was pretty good dunk. That's that's what you think because
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you get a nine, like it's do you make it?
You get a nine just.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Kind of cocked it once and dunked it. I've seen
better dunks, but in the middle of a game that
gets about.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It not just a game, This is game one of these.
Can you ai a key underneath it?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It's a final now from the Garden Pacers win it
one thirty eight, one thirty five. I can't wait for
the post game, Well, actually I can. I can wait
for you know what you basketball basketball is canceled. Basketball
is canceled.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's it. It's canceled. It's not. It's darkness, mild friend,
at least the me's one exit. How about a fresco exit.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Swalling down, We will break down one of the biggest
comebacks and one of the biggest chokes in NBA playoff history.
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Speaker 2 (14:41):
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Speaker 4 (14:52):
Ill a Perton inbounded it right to Towns who couldn't
get the three pointer off in time, and the Pacers
get the job done, walking off with their heads held high,
stunning this home Nick crowd with a one thirty eight,
one thirty five overtime win, overcoming his seventeen point fourth
quarter deficit. I take a one nothing in the Eastern
Conference Finals series lead.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Had a big lead, Bud blew it down the stretch,
cat giving up threes and missing free throws and allowing
that big three. Hella Burton makes the choke sign. Hell
p Burton wanted him to eat it in over time.
They couldn't do it, and they lost.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen.
I I saw it, I watched it. I still can't
believe what I just saw. Yeah, A fourteen point lead
for the Knicks with three and a half left to go,
a nine point lead with fifty one seconds left to go,
but Aaron Smith scores twenty points in the fourth quarter,
(15:53):
including six threes.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Tyrese Halliburton ties it with a jumper that bounces off
the back of the iron eight feet in the air
and comes back down through the hoop. The Pacers win
it in overtime, and I don't know. I don't know
if the Knicks can take a game here at this point.
I don't know how you come back from this. I
really don't. This may be the worst Knicks playoff loss,
and this may be worse than the Reggie Miller game
(16:16):
in ninety five. This may be the worst loss because
of all of what goes along with this. It's the
Pacers again. You get the choke sign, a miracle three
that shouldn't have even went. Really, I don't know how
you come back from this. I really don't.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Uh Now, someone who might maybe feel better or may say, yeah, Jason,
this is how it's going. Fox Sports one NBA Insider Extraordinaire.
Check him out on the Odd the Ball podcast as
well on Twitter at Rick Buker. It is longtime friend
of the show, Rick Buker, Rick, what's happening.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Man, Oh, you know say it? You know what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The struggle is real.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Ricks are happening, Jason. Yeah, the Pacers, they're happening. Hey,
it's just one game. At It's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, he's trying to figure out how to compose himself
at this point. Sorry, Rick, he's he's going through it,
that fourteen point lead, two and a half left and
then unable to close out and it becomes ni Smith,
so use it tomorrow and he kneon shining light on Broadway.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Hey, it's only one game, Jason, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Rick, this is this is like one hundred games. This
is sometimes sometimes game one is game one. Sometimes game
one is everything. I don't know. I don't know how
you Rick, it's a fourteen point lead at home. You
blow it. All you have to do is keep saying
in the huddle, no threes, guys, last year, no threes,
no threes. Guess what.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Pacers keep hitting threes, pay keep hitting threes. And Halliburton
hits that miracle shot does the choke sign? I wanted
the Knicks to make him eat it in overtime. But no, no, no,
can't stop me.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
O T.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Halliburton picks tonight to be the great Halliburton, and now
it's one. I really, mentally, I don't know where you
go from here. I really don't.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I don't honestly, I don't think you're giving these Nicks
enough credit. I do think that they are mentally tougher
than that. And look, Indiana, certainly, the Pacers have nothing
to lose. They're coming in with a ton of confidence,
as they should. I expected this to be a very
dramatic series. I had no idea that we were going
(18:27):
to get Game one like this. I thought the Knicks
would win Game one. I thought it would be close.
I was surprised that they were winning a game that
was as high scoring as this one was. And uh
and then lo and behold. It was like, oh, I
guess they're not so. But I just look, a lot
(18:51):
of things have to go right for obviously for the
Pacers to pull this out. And yes, the Knicks had
I had that big lead, but I don't think there's
the Boston Celtics. I think they can look at a
lot of things. I think they got a little three
point happy down the stretch instead of continuing to attack
the rims and and and that was their downfall. And
(19:14):
then you had Jalen Brunston, who was you know, with
five fouls, kind of had to play different. Uh. It
is interesting how they're they are attacking him at the
defensive end, and they're going to have to figure something
out when it comes to that. But these teams are
so evenly matched that. Uh. And we've seen you said
the great we saw the great Ty Halliburton tonight. We've
(19:37):
seen times where we don't see the great Ty halliburt.
So I don't at this point in the playoffs. I
don't expect what we've seen to this point changed dramatically.
And what we've seen to this point is a New
York Knicks team that has that that is battle tested,
that's had to go through, uh, taking a couple of
(20:00):
punches and responding to them. Maybe not any as dramatic
and big as this one, but but they've had to
answer the bell. They did it, they've had to do
it from the first from the first series. And conversely,
we've seen Indiana be up and down at times. So honestly,
I still think that this is going to be a
very long series. And while I think it puts the
(20:23):
Knicks on their back foot at this point, I still don't.
I don't eliminate the possibility of them still winning the series.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Now clearly a miserable seven and a half minutes of
basketball as we're chronicling Rick, But before that, the second
quarter to me stood out as a giant growth moment
for the Knicks, where they were able to let Jalen
Brunson sit for almost seven minutes. So, I mean, I
think that would bode well for future returns that you've
(20:52):
saw some semblance of continuity that had eluded them in
the past.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah. I mean a lot of that was built on
Campaign hitting a couple of threes, which he generally has
not done in the playoffs. Sure, and but Ogo and
Noby sort of taking over UH for for a period.
So yeah, I mean the fact is that Timms is
(21:18):
playing a deeper rotation at this point, and and they
have to have that you, I mean, pay Payne has
to get minutes, McBride has to get minutes. Mitchell Robinson
obviously is going to get minutes. If if if he
can play eight consistently, UH, and they can contribute, then
I don't think that the depth that the Pacers have
(21:40):
is going to be the issue. It really comes down
to your stars have to outplay their stars and and
or or even up their score their stars, and then
you have to have that next player down the line contribute.
And that player for the Pacers tonight was was in
(22:03):
was a Nie Smith And uh and I don't know
that the Knicks necessarily got that from from a third
or fourth guy.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Here's how here's how bizarro this few minutes is right here.
I don't think the Knicks are going to win a game,
and Rick is saying it's gonna be a long series.
Nicks are bouncing back like our roles. It's like we
did Freaky Friday, Rick, and we ran into each other
and I'm you and you're me right now?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's well, you know what I do.
What I can't Sason.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
See me? I go Rick. In a week that it's
been all conspiracies for the NBA. After the ratings came
out for Game one of the Western Conference, I'd bet
more confident that the Knicks are going to make this
a longer series. How's that?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
No doubt about it? I mean we're like, look, we're
I do a lot of TV these days, and you know,
the talker around the studio is, can we okay, we
can't get Minnesota, can we at least of New York?
Because Indiana? Okay? See, oh my god, what are we
going to do? Who's going to be tuning in to
(23:07):
get the latest updates on the series? No offense to
all my friends in Oklahoma City and Indianapolis, but the
reality is the size of those markets and their respective
teams do not draw a ton of national interests. But
I do believe in the big picture, this is what
(23:28):
Adam Silver wants because he's no longer looking at the
national audience as a thing that they're trying to attract.
He's trying to go to a global audience. And I
think that if you have a variety of teams competing
for titles, I think that spreads the wealth and that
(23:52):
gives the opportunity for more fans around the globe who
if they're not watching then I mean watching games. The
majority of the globe is not watching games. They're watching
highlights and they're buying merchandise, and that's where the NBA
(24:12):
is making its money. So it goes to it's natural
to think that the more teams that you have competitive,
the more jerseys you're going to sell.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Well that's what I said, Rick after the game.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I said, at least the ninety nine percent of NBA
fans enjoyed the last few minutes in overtime of this game.
I didn't, but at least ninety nine percent of the
fans did. Okay, great, all right, got that's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I mean, I think, Jason, sometimes we have to make sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, take one for the team. It's a greater good thing, right,
it's a greater good.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
But I mean, this is your night. Take one for
the team.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Rick, I hear what you're saying on all of this,
but I mean, honestly, this may be the most devastating
Knicks playoff loss in franchise history. Fourteen point lead with
two and a half left to go. Wait, like we
got a stat coming up on what team's wrecords are
in the play Else we have a fourteen point lead
with two and a half minutes left to go, and
not just that, it's to the Pacers, and it's a
(25:05):
miracle shot at the end, and Halliburton does the choke
sign and they lose an overtime and it's like, I mean,
I hear all you're saying, but all I keep saying
is I don't know. I still feel like I got
punched in the face like twenty times. I need smelling salts.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Yeah, when you put it that way, you're right. The
series is over. No, I look, I get that, But
but missus Lincoln, how was the play? Yeah? I uh no,
I get all that, But I really the question is
(25:43):
are the players either buying into all that or are
they feeling all that? Are they feeling all that history?
Are they feeling all of that absolute gloom of doom.
I think a Knicks fan who has lived through all
of those things, it's feeling that a lot more than
(26:04):
in that locker room, just because it's kind of the
league that we're seeing now, which is crazy things happen.
I mean, how many record comebacks have we had? So
I don't know that they're looking at it from quite
the same historical perspective and saying, you know what, we
just suffered the worst loss in New York Knicks playoff history.
(26:30):
I still think there's a part of them that has
to be thinking we're the first mixed team in forever
that has actually made the Eastern Conference Finals and it's
Game one, and yes we lost it on our home floor,
and we blew a big lead, but we have demonstrated
that we have the capability of our racing big leads
(26:52):
and winning games down the stretch as well. So look,
Indiana did to us what we have done, what we
did to the defending champs, and so now we have
to go back and do it to them. And that
would be my That would be my rallying cry if
I was Tims and giving the speech after this.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
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I'm here with us each and every week Jason Smith
Show with Me Mike carmon Fox Sports Radio MVP finally announced, Rick,
(27:31):
were you surprised that there was such a disparity in
the seventy one to twenty nine final?
Speaker 5 (27:36):
I actually was. I thought it would be I thought
it would be a lot closer. And you know, the
difficulty is that announcing it so late in the process
and The reason for that, I was told is they
don't really like to announce it in the second week
of any round, and they didn't want the MVP to
(27:58):
be announced before any of the other awards. So that's
the reason. Whether you buy that or not, that's sort
of the explanation that the league, that the League is
giving for it coming out so late. The problem with
it coming out so late is now everybody's taking the
Nuggets Thunder theories as a referendum on whether it was
(28:18):
deserved or not, and it's like it's a regular season awards.
The votes were in, and you know, at that when
we were going through the first round, I heard just
as much about, you know, SDA is probably going to
win and it's going to be the greatest injustice ever.
I don't have a problem with SDA winning. He wasn't
at the top of my ballot. I was one of
(28:38):
the twenty nine that voted for Jokic simply because I
thought he was far more indispensable to the Nuggets success
than Shay Gilds Alexander was to the Thunder. And I
am fully aware of the disparity in wins and all
of that, but I just thought that that Jokic had
(29:01):
an extraordinary, extraordinary season, and I can't I just couldn't
say that about about Shay. He had a great season.
He was the best player on on on the winning
this winningest team.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
And for some people, that's the definition of m v
P or it it's Trump's what whatever, you know. My
My definition that I just I just gave you is
that's the beauty of this. And I think it's it's
I like it is that the NBA has never defined
what most Valuable Player is supposed to be, so everybody
(29:39):
has the opportunity to interpret it in their own way
and it as a result, we have a lot of
debate and conversation, and uh, you know, for the business
we're in, I think that that's good and and because
it would I think it would be kind of cookie
cutter if we tried to put parameters parameters on it,
and we we might have the opportunity of the sing
(30:00):
out on somebody that that actually deserved it.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is at Rick Buker.
Check him out on FS one tomorrow, probably next to
a very happy Paul Pierce. I'm thinking Paul Pierce is
going to come in with a Haliburton Jersey, Nie Smith Jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh man, he's gonna oh yeah, it's gonna be a
happy Paul Pierce tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, he's gonna jump out of the wheelchairs, crip walking.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Rick, Thanks a bunch man. We'll talk to you next week.
Have a great one.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
My pleasure, mental health, mental health.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's gonna be a lot. I really, honestly,
I just want to throw up, go to bed, and
wake up after game two is over. That's really what
I want to do. Should I get you want to do?
I want to I'll tell you this is it's not
I'm not good, my Carmen. No, I know I watched
it and you got Quyatt, which is which is worse
(30:52):
than screaming Jason Smith. I am not good. I'm not good.
So I get at home like I'm growing up with
my dad right when he was quiet. That's when you
knew you screwed up, and you're trying to figure out
which thing you just got caught doing or one of
your brothers got caught doing. No, I didn't. Well, it
(31:13):
was eerie least similar and not that my dad was
ranting and raining all the time. But it was the
idea that you weren't conversational. You got quiet, very clinical
in terms of your description of what was going on,
as opposed to the man I've watched for eleven years
ride highs and lows with the squad. This was just
a almost like you saw it coming, Jason.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
You think you're upset, now you wait till you hear
Rick Kloh he's going off on the next.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Is he really?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, he's gonna have some some quotes that you're not
gonna like.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Okay, well we'll have him and we'll have tips. Because
I think TIBs was doing one answer, one one word answer,
isn't then he thought somebody, oh good, uh, time out
to find out what's trending in the wide role of sports.
And someone who's been called the TIBs of Fox Sports Radio.
Sometimes you ask your questions that she just has one
word answers.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's Monty Belagya.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
Yeah, that was a game.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
I'm sorry, Jason, that was rough, almost as.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Bad as like the Clippers. I feel with you.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Final score one thirty eight to one thirty five. A
little bit of what Tom Thibodeau has said after since
the game.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
There's obviously disappointment when you fall short, you know, but
it doesn't. We have to take a look at the film,
make our corrections, and then we got to change quickly
for game two. We got to be ready for Game two,
and that's all you look at. So you have to
take disappointment turn that into more determination.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
More determination coming from the Knicks hopefully for Game two.
Other NBA news shake Gildas Alexander winning the NBA's MVP
Award for the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five season.
In baseball, we've got some games going on. We weren't
really watching because of that Knicks game, but the Diamondbacks
did score against the Dodgers Kit tell Marte with a
(32:56):
solo shot.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
They're up one zero, bottom of the sixth inning.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
The Angels have had some more runs against the A's
at sixty three top of the fifth inning. Earlier today,
the Yankees walked it off against the Rangers four to three.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Thanks to Jason Dominguez.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Dalton Varshow had a grand Slam as the Blue Jay
shut out the Padres fourteen zero. And really early today,
the Orioles snapped in a game losing streak, So yay,
Orioles fans. They beat the Brewers eight four in eleven
innings in the NHL Playoffs. It was Game one of
the West Final and the Stars came back to defeat
the Oilers sixty three.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Game two will be on Friday.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
In the NFL, the Colts announced that their owner and
CEO Jim Erse passed away peacefully in his sleep this afternoon.
He was sixty five, while the Titans signed their number
one overall pick cam Ward to his four year, fully
guaranteed forty eight point seven million dollar contract.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
So no Rolexes gods die after this guy.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You what you want to watch? It's got the triple
L in it now REALX. Thank you Monson, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next. You know, listen some stats. We don't tons
of stats because stats are like, okay, you can hear
stats that kind of go in one ear out the other.
We brought to that.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Great one last night about Caitlin Clark already tied for
the most twenty ten games twy points tennis games in
WNBA history with ten all right.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Amazing play one games right, forty one games. Courtney van
der Sloot's played five hundred games and has ten Right,
that's amazing. We have a stat coming up next from
this Knicks Pacers game that's gonna make that look like
a kid giving out candy. Why do we give you this?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
It is?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It is amazing. What we're gonna tell you. Coming up next,
Jason and my Fox Sports Radio songs for you. Jason,
I like the end of the world. Better be sure
to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific,
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. You know, I closed my eyes, I blinked,
(34:58):
I splashed water on, I walked out of the bathroom,
going I'm walking back into a new reality. Or the
Knicks one. Nope, Nope, still Pacers one, one thirty eight,
one thirty five. Well, I mean it might be in
one of those alternate earths. You and Patrick are getting
into a deep discussion of all these weird realities in
the Marvel universe. So maybe you'll wake up in one
(35:19):
of those. I hope so. I hope so I'll wake
up in that in that alternate universe where Jan Soda
is hitting, and the knicks are up and you don't
miss twelve free throws in the final moments. You know,
all of those things, just a couple of things. This
incredible game, the way it ends before I give you
this stat that's just gonna absolutely blow you away. Already
(35:40):
Tyrese Halliburton's jumper that bounced off the back iron, up
and through and the choke sign is going to be
it already is It's going to be one of the
most popular highlights in the history of the NBA. They're
going to play that thing forever well because it links
to generations. They're gonna play it for it because he
does the choke sign just like Reggie Miller did. Like,
(36:02):
they're gonna play that thing for I mean the rest
of my life too, the rest of my life they're
gonna play Now, it's not so much about the hell
they'll take it. They'll back a free for the moon.
(36:28):
Reggie Miller cackling like a madman, Reggie Miller, the laughing
guy in the background there. I mean, really, it's it's
a it's going to be one of the biggest highlights
the NBA's there, and they're gonna play it for. I mean,
it's gonna live forever. It's gonna be fifty years from now,
you're gonna still be seeing we still play the Reggie
Miller choke thing. And that was in nineteen ninety five.
They still play that, right, they still play. They're gonna
(36:49):
play this thing. This is gonna live for. He created
an NBA all time moment that I'm gonna have to
watch for the next thirty years. What's the fine he's
got to get fine, fine, go fine choke signs. Don't
you get that out?
Speaker 6 (37:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
I wish it would have called it technical. Oh it's
a tea. It's not quite a throat slash, but I
mean Brunson's at the free throw line for two with
no time left. Uh, really, it's a it's a fair time.
It's an all time NBA highlight that we are seeing there.
The Knicks turn the ball over at the end of regulation,
they miss free throws. Just an absolute choke fest. And yeah,
(37:28):
Halliburton makes the choke sign. Now here comes the stat
I was telling you about this again.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
This.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I'm doing the show tonight for the ninety nine percent
of the people who are happy what they saw I
understand that in the history of the NBA. Okay, this
has now been the number is now official after seeing
it bandied about over the last few minutes a lot
of people and big NBA check marks teams with a
fourteen point lead and two fifty left to go in
(37:58):
a game, right, so, with two minutes and fifty seconds
left to go in the game and a fourteen point lead,
because that's the Knicks had right now, fourteen point lead
two minutes and fifty seconds left. Coming into tonight, teams
were nine hundred and seventy seven and oh up by
fourteen at least with two fifty left in the game.
Said nine hundred, nine hundred and seventy seven and oh
(38:22):
make it nine hundred and seventy seven and one.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Also the fourth time this postseason that they've been down
at least fifteen points and came back to win. Well,
this fourth time done that.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
This dives into the other stat that is maybe even
more impressive. But just think about that, teams were nine
hundred and seventy seven and OH up by fourteen with
two fifty left to go. Teams that are up by
seven with fifty seconds left, Okay, up by seven points
with fifty seconds left. Since nineteen ninety seven, teams are
(38:55):
seventeen hundred and two up and four down. Again, if
you had a seven and more point lead, they had
a nine point lead with fifty seconds left, seven and
more point lead with fifty seconds left to go in
the game. Teams are seventeen hundred and two wins and
four losses since nineteen ninety seven. Right, that sounds amazing.
(39:15):
Three of those four losses are because the Pacers did
that in this playoff, in this playoffs and the playoff.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
They have three.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
They gave teams three of those four losses up by
seven with fifty seconds left and they come.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Back to win, so one in each round. Right yeah, yeah?
So Game five, Game two, Game one, here we go.
That's chaos. I mean, Carlisle starting to really look like
Robert Carlisle too. He's gonna be Rumpel, still skinned or
in the full money.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I I am just I am blown away. I'm blown away.
We have two hours left to the show. I'm blown away.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
You're just looking to put your head set down? And
whych I mean when I said I wanted to throw up,
go to sleep and wake up after game two like
This is how I would feel when I was younger
with big Mets and Jets losses. I mean, the Knicks
didn't lose them any games like this because they weren't good.
Yeah yeah, but like this is after there were no expectations.
I don't try to get on the internet. I don't
want to see anything. I want to.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I want to go on vacation and I want to
come back the next week after the next game is over.
I want to That's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
But I can't. I can't because because you know this
is what we do. You're not being controlled by WWE
superstar Grayson Waller, who's a Pacers fan. I mean, just
up and down the line. It's really escalating quickly, am
I really? Because didn't even I didn't know if I
can get in the square circle right now, I just yes.
I don't know what to say. I have no fight
left in me. I have no fight. This could have
killed me. It's lots could have killed me right now. Man,
(40:44):
there there he is at the gardens.
Speaker 6 (40:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Uh. If that's not enough, you have to hear coming
up next, what PACER's head coach Rick Carlyle had to
say about Halliburton's You following the game, it is must listen.
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