May 17, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, no, no, just not loud.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I was having my Ross Geller moment to go back
in the pop culture time machine of celebrate but guys,
and then he motioned to kind of keep it down.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It just got loudly. It got very loudly. Indeed, when
it gets loudly, it stayed there though.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
There were no breaks because the Celtics put up no resistance,
and then it was highlight after highlight. I was being
bludgeoned in an auditory fashion for forty minutes before the
big voice guy announced.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's it's like this, this is loud, like this is.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Like when my kids were little and they just start
banging pots because my mom didn't want to chase them
around here. Occupy yourself, say why did you give them pots?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Playing chilling?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's what it sounded like, you know, speaking of kids.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I got because I gotta tell you this, right, I
gotta tell you this today, because this is where I
stopped for a second and I said, are you kidding me?
So you know, all the big Knicks fans that that
are at the game, Timothy Shallomey goes to all the games,
you know, Shallow May is gen Z's Tom cruise like
he's gen Z's Tom. Everybody loves Shallow May. My daughter
loves Shallow May. All her friends love Shallow May. My
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daughter is big into acting and singing and writing and everything.
Love Shallow May, Love Shallow May. She says to me yesterday,
right when we said, okay, what's the schedule like tomorrow?
I said, well, tomorrow, I'm gonna I'm going into work.
I'm leaving it, you know, five whatever it is getting tomorrow,
and tomorrow we're going to the Eastern Conference finals, so
you know, it's a big night tomorrow at work. And
she goes, oh, right, right right, the Knicks are playing.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah. She goes, ah, I hope they win.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Anything, and I said, she said, I hope they win
because I hope they win for Shallow May.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And I said, hang on, and I almost pulled the
car over. I was pulled the car over.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I said, wait, I said, did you just say you
hope they win for Shallow May.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Not, you hope they win for your dad, who's been
a Nick fan since the early nineteen eight the late
seventies when the Knicks were terrible and I had to
watch Roy Williams and Sugar Ray Richardson play and the
Knicks lose every game by twenty. You don't want it
for your dad, but Shallow may And I'm doing this
kind of half fun, half serious. She goes, well, he's
at all the games. Oh oh, he's not all the
(03:26):
gal Oh right, yeah, you know what, Yeah, right, yes,
you're right. I hope they win for Shallow May too.
I almost is like, you can go live with somebody else.
I can go Shallomey can come live with us. You
can come live with.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Us and stay.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I hang out in your room and see all the
stuff up on the wall and all that. I ain't
come live with us. You can go live someplace else.
I hope they win for Shallow may Red. What it's
like my whole family does that to me. Yeah, but
you're gonna watch me for a decade. I had three
people living in the house who couldn't give it a
damn what I did or what I talked to about.
I hope like Dad goes to work, Dad makes a
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little bit of money, Dad cooked. Only as my younger
daughter has gotten older, does she really actually care about
what how's the show or not? What are we doing?
Like today I'm leaving. She goes, what do you I'm like, yeah,
the next are gonna win. Yeah, Jason's gonna be loud, good,
but he's gonna buy pizza. Yeah, so I mean, you know, yeah, no,
you gotta give a little bites, but he's gonna be
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loud all night.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
But but the fact that she asked, like it's really
a breakthrough kind of moment, like you actually are worried
about the sporting calendar. Now she'll ask about the w
NBA coming back, right that's in her timeline, or the
women's soccer league and what's going on, or when the
national team plays.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
There's some interest there.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Otherwise it's bocking my squads because if it shows up
in the timeline, it means a guy got hit in
the head with.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A pop up or something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I would also rather have no being in the timeline
than than my daughter's I hope they win.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
For chalam, do you even think about me?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Think about me, the the the investment that I put
You don't think about me first s, But you're in
the seventh circle of chalomade ash. Hey, uh so for
an exercise for your family, we're gonna draw the middle
of the fact, draw where you believe your spot is
on the family, and and where everybody else is in
relation to you, and then like I'm all the way
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out like in Hawf and Shallow.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
May is like right next to it.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's the picture of from off the shows when they
draw the family, everybody's hold then who's that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's Tidy, who's that daddy.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Zobey draws herself in the middle, Shallow May right next
to her. Pam is just a little bit further out there.
It's kind so it's kind of like the Sun, Mercury
and Venus and I'm in I mean, I'm in haf
I'm all the way out on the outer rim where
you got to send some kind of imperial droid. Ah
there there, let's go there right now, Captain Piet, we're
going there. That you're still a plane at this point.
(05:43):
You haven't been downgrade.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Keep going back? What was it took?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like oh, ad Astra where they went to Uranus and
it took like oh no, Neptune, Neptune, Neptune. Yeah, no,
I don't think you can get the net dream like
because it's too on the nose. It was like a
seth rogen I had comedy. I don't think you can
go to your age. It's just three hundred year trip
to Neptune whatever, or passengers where it's like it's five
hundred years and about Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence are gonna,
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you know, have some kind of garden growing at the end,
and they're the only ones awake.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I will have to.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Find it at some point.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I read a review that started with the first paragraph
just said don't And I never saw passengers. I never
had any interests there, even with those two leads, who
normally I trust their sensibilities, right, Pratt funny, can go
serious the time, but generally kind of a jackass. Jennifer Lawrence, Yeah,
there's a misstep here and there, but taking chances.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So normally you pair those together. I'll get on board
that one.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Again.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I saw the don't like all right, I believe you
missed a reviewer. I was gonna ask you, like, like,
why didn't they like? Because the whole thing is so
that it's style spoilers. So the whole thing is that
they're all on this trip to go live in this
faraway plan. They're we're colonizing another planet and Jennifer Lawrence
is some sort of influencer writer and Chris Pratt accidentally,
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you know, they meet before they get on the the
the on the ship, and Chris Pratt is smitten with her,
and something happens and Pratt wakes up like threw us
to sleep through this like five hundred year journey.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
But he's got inside the he's at night terrors whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He wakes up somehow he wakes up and he's lonely,
so he wakes up Jennifer Lawrence and and doesn't tell
her that, oh yeah, I woke you up, And then
it becomes Then she finally finds out midway through the
movie when Michael Sheen shows up kind of like the
bartender in in uh in the Shining and uh so,
I'll say, and I'm going, so she gets mad and
the whole big thing, and I'm sitting there going, you.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Know, I get they were mad, but why didn't they
just wake other people up? At that point?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, you know, whatever, who do we who do you
want to get?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Let's have this guy. Guy looks like he could be
Let's wake this guy up. Let's wake this guy up.
And this guy and this guy and all right, that's great,
that's what we have. Right, And this guy, if we
wake him up, I'm men, look at him. He ain't
chased me down.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's a long time, all right, We're here, That's what
it is.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We can't we can only play so many games of
war with the dec and cards that I owned over here. Well, look,
the Knicks aspect of this, we will have more, continually,
have more on today. We're gonna check in with Nicks
insider John Schmiel coming up in a few minutes. Who's
at Madison Square Garden for this game.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I have to get you another newspaper now. But yeah,
well yeah, well well yeah, well I got I got
to thank him for that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, he said, sent me, uh sent you to give
to me the back page of the Knicks of the
New York Post from the other day, the real live copy,
real life newspaper clip.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Flip it over to the top.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He got that too, I got, yeah, I got the
wicked good then back page of the Post. The front
page of the Post on the bridges steel from Tatum.
You know when Tatum was.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Playing, uh but for the Celtics. I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Look, but he didn't tap out like all the Celtics tonight.
We will have more on the Knicks part, obviously going
on and and winning and what this means for them.
But for the Celtics for a few minutes, right, like,
they're the champs last year and it looked like the
era of and this shows you how tenuous things are
in the NBA, because the Celtics win and they're set up, right,
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they're they're set up. You have Tatum has become a star,
Jalen Brown is a star.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You're paying him.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Derek White's a guy that's incredibly valuable. Peyton Pritchey want
up winning six Man of the Year this year. Porzingis
who potentially could have been the MVP of the Finals
last year a couple of games that he had. We're
able to flip that series in the Celtics way. Like
you said, okay, they're all set. This era of the
Celtics is now all set to go. And now they
don't get out of the second round. They're not really
(09:27):
competitive against the Knicks, right they want you know, they're
not really competitive. And now Jason Tatum is out for
probably at least nine months.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So now if.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You're the Celtics, you're saying Okay, So now next year,
who knows what it's gonna be. A year after that,
it's gonna be we have to decide who we want
to pay and keep. And this is how this is.
This is how fast things go from the era of
the Celtics is here too. This era of the Celtics
might be over because we don't know are they still
gonna be this good again. Tatum's gonna be out, It's
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gonna be a nine plus month injury, and who knows
when he gets back to being himself, he might not
be himself for another year after this. Right, generally you
see guys with achilles injuries. This is kind of how
it goes. So it's gonna be another year. If boy,
we're paying Jalen Brown all this money, you know, now
here's other players coming up, other players that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Need to get paid.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Are we gonna keep this team or in a year
is it gonna be a completely different Celtics supporting cast
because their era of dominance never really got here. They
won once, but then Tatum gets hurt, they lose in
the second round because clearly, even with Tatum, they weren't
up to Knicks. They weren't up to the knixt level.
They weren't up to the physicality of the playoff basketball.
(10:37):
It was they weren't up to stopping the Knicks players.
This was a Knicks rollover series, right, They win the
first two, the Celtics win, went okay, we keep it going. Here,
they win Game five when the Knicks have basically put
it away to come back in Game six, and Knicks
win Game six by seventy five points. So they weren't
close to the Knicks this year. Yes, every year is new,
but they had the regular season dominance against the Knicks
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this year and they flipped it on its head for
the playoffs. So I go from here's the era of
the Celtics that was here too? Is this era ever
getting off the ground? And I could say the same
thing for the Cavaliers. It was the era of the
Cavaliers or the regular season they had nine deep. They
can't get out of the second round. So are these
two teams that were so great do they need all
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kinds of adjustment? We talked about how the doors open
for Lebron to go play in Cleveland and finish in
Cleveland when the Lakers boot them out after this year, Hey,
I'll go home maybe I'll take it back to the
Eastern Conference. I'll take a team. Yeah, I'll take the
pressure off those players that need someone to take the
pressure off, and I'll finish off at home.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Like that's how fast.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Things change in the NBA, This era where all of
a sudden, the Calves and Celtics looked like, hey, we
could run.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
This conference for the next two to three years.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's over, and now the Nixon Pacers can run the
conference for the next three years.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Now it may change next year, you know. Now things
are gonna go. But just that fast.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Three weeks ago, it was the Celtics and Cavaliers collision
course for the Eastern Conference finals. Right, they're two of
the three best teams in the league. They're both going home.
And now, all of a sudden, here's a new era,
and it's a young team in the Knicks and a
young team in the Indiana Pacers that all have their
guys paid all the guys the next couple of years.
This is how fast things change. I also feel validated
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to a point because I asked all year long whether
the Celtics truly were deep enough, good enough or was
it cosmetically well since they were the champs were giving
them the benefit.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, they gave away or the Knicks came and took
however you wanted to describe it, right, depending which column
you want to write or which talking points you want.
Celtics big leads game one and two and they lose
both those games. So it wasn't completely a run away. Yes,
the Knicks won those games, but competitive first two games.
And then we get to the end of this with
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Tatum on the sidelines, and you have to ask, we
have no idea what the hell's going on with porzingis right,
we're talking about a little bit behind the scenes. I mean,
there's a lot of rampant speculation. The guys clearly not
well not himself. So we hope they find answers to
what ever is going on and you can get back
to form. But you just saw an absolute beat down and.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
A quit situation.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There was no fight, Like that's the other part of this, Like, yeah, what,
you're happy that you got to celebrate a title a
year ago.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Ah, you know what, that was fun. These guys are
beating a hell lot of us.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Let's go home.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I saw no level of juice whatsoever in the second
half to even try to get back into this game.
They were done and then ords quite clearly, as we
talked about a lot in the first hour, they treated
it like it was a two to nothing game the
entire way. And and kudos to the squad for finishing
the job and living up to their reputation their expectations.
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But for the Celtics, yeah, you've got a There were
a lot of questions before this playoffs came came to
bear of how long this would be right, not necessarily
the dynastic question because we love to throw that around,
but just the core before they split up and moved on, right,
That was being asked before they won the title last year,
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should they just break up Brown and Tatum and move on? Well,
now you don't even have that choice, and you have
to you have no money to spend. Yeah, right, because
that's the other part of the equation. It's like, help's
not just walking through that door and anything you thought
you had in terms of depth in terms of trade chips,
because that was earlier as they were down to well,
it's like, ah, they can make do this, this and
(14:26):
this go get you honest, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Any of these guys.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You could go do like there's no matchup that and
with those supporting players. Now that really makes a lot
of sense for the Bucks if that if they come
to that versus the other trade packages that are out there.
So and there's no easy fix for these Celtics and
now you're chasing the Knicks the things I never thought
I'd say. The era of the Celtics we thought was
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here may be over and they may need it because
it's gonna be another year I mean, and the Calves
it may not arrive for them. That's how fast things
change in the NBA. And you have a bunch of
teams in that back end of the bracket that are
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Speaker 2 (15:29):
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
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Speaker 3 (15:46):
I can relax. The Knicks are in the finals.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Relax for a few days until Wednesday night. I can
relax and worry about the Mets in the Subway Series. Relax.
The are in there. We're gonna sweep the Pacers. Conference finals. Finals,
doesn't matter. Finals, It's like finals is there.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
It's like Andy Bernard when they say, hey, how is management?
How is anger? Management? Training?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Goes well?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Management training?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The Knicks are in the East Finals.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
They will take on the Pacers after their burial of
the Celtics tonight. Joining us now from outside of Madison
Square Garden at the top of a light pole because
Knicks fans is celebrating like they won the finals tonight.
Nicks insider John Schmielkey is on Twitter at Shmilk, longtime
friend of the show.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
How you doing man? You sent me that picture of
you at the game.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I can imagine it must have just been an entire
party since midway through the second quarter.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah, I just drove through the Lincoln Tunnel. I did
not need my card to get home. I could have
floated home.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Or flown home.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I just don't want to have to go back into
the city tomorrow morning at my car. So this is
just convenient. I could have lunched myself from thirty third
Street and Eighth Avenue and set my butt back. That
set your new jersey, baby. Oh man, twy look still
work to do. Let's be very clear about that. Still
work to do. You gotta beat the Pacers, but twenty
(17:18):
five years is a long time. Enjoy the stick fans.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I'll tell you I have no one believed me on
the show this week when I said, oh, they lose
Game five, I said, I'm fine, we are gonna blow
the doors off of them in game six. It's gonna
be different. It's gonna be officiated differently. The Knicks are
going to be more physical. They're smelling blood. They kind
of halfway went for it in game five, and they
all thought I was crapsed. Oh you're just you're just
trying to You're trying to show us you're not nervous.
(17:44):
I'm like, no, we are gonna win big on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And here we go. It happened.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah. Look, I did not think I'd be sitting there
in that building tonight and the Nicks would be leading
by forty one points in the third quarter. I mean,
that place for twenty four minutes of basketball in like
an hour and a half a real time, was just
a party. The only thing people got mad about is
that Thibodau wasn't taking the starter. Than that place was
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absolutely lit, guys, And look, I said, as you know,
twenty five years since they've been to these inn Conference finals,
that might have been the best defense I've seen a
Nick team play in twenty five years too. They shut
the Celtics down. The count Bridges heraced, Derek White, Jalen
Brown fouled out in the third quarter. It was utter
(18:35):
domination in every facet of the game.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
At what point did the did you think the Celtics quit?
When did the spirit leave the body?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I think when Shireman made an appearance in the third quarter. Look,
I think it was a point at the end of
the second quarter where the Celtics I think in one
three and it looked like they're about to make a run,
and then the Knicks counted with like three straight baskets
and they're up by thirty points at a half time.
(19:07):
The game wasn't over yet, but it was darn close.
And then you know, so they's mad a couple of
shots to start the third knicks down's right back, they
got a bit you know, forty and then guys, that
was it. You know, it was Badulla pulled everyone and man,
just what a game. And again it's I don't think
(19:29):
fans understand how I mean they do, but if you
the root for the next how bad the last twenty
five years have been, or at least twenty the last
twenty five years watching you know, Ron Baker and Kyle O'Quinn,
who was probably one of the better guys he got
to watch. I mean, my gosh, Alexi sid who Knicks
fans were in love with Damian Boxon my gosh, go
(19:53):
through the list. It was bad, David Fizdale's regime, Larry Brown,
for my god, I say it, Thomas, it's as bad
as it was the lowest of the lows. And to
finally get to see this in that building for a night,
it was a blast and it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So as we look at the squad because Jason and
I were really celebrating, and I did so maybe a
little muted because my guy's been at volume. You know,
you turn it to eleven on spinal tap. He broke
the knob off John. I mean, there's there's just there's
just no about it. But all of that, with the
defense still up thirty, still challenging plays, all of that,
(20:38):
it's like, I like it. The uh I believe you
actually said, you know, don't don't get off their necks,
and they didn't.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
They didn't. They did not lay it off. And look,
if this team can play like that defensively the rest
of this postseason, they can win an NBA championship if
they can keep that level of intensity on defense. Carl
Anthony Towns was locked in. Boys, you do not see
that very often from non defense. That dude was locked in.
(21:10):
If he can play like that for two more rounds,
the Knicks can win a championship. That's not hyperbolic, that's facts.
That's where we're at. This team has not played that
way consistently this year. They've been maddeningly inconsistent. But if
you can bring that type of effort defensively here, the
Knicks can be NBA champions in the Year of Our
(21:32):
Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
The Knicks are here to save the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
John, They're here to save the playoffs because we got
Minnesota and maybe Oklahoma City and the Pacer.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
The Knicks are here to save the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well wait, you're telling me Mike Silver doesn't want in Indiana,
Minnesota or Indiana Oklahoma City NBA finals, but you said
not have only luck on this planet since the u
A lottery. They have that zero luck. They've gotten no
help to start pulling some strakes. Baby, you gotta get
the big ball get into the finals. Adam siliverthon what'll hey, that's.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It one a week, it's been well, look at where
we're at.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
John, Listen, it's already gonna be a Knicks final four.
It's gonna be like a Hallmark Christmas movie because it's
the Knicks and the Pacers who are synonymous with the
Knicks in the playoffs, Randall and de Vincenzo and probably Hartenstein.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's an entirely Knicks final fourth.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's everything we need right now.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Look, bitch goes back to the nineties and Nick Pacers,
where they've kind of went back and forth, like neither
team dominated in the nineties. One year the Pacers would win,
then the Knicks would win. Well, guess what, boys, Payback's
a bitch here, cuts and nick and lots of the faces.
Last year Kyrie Halliburn. Look, he's a really good player,
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but he is such a perfect like sequel to Reggie Miller.
He's lanky, he's skinny, he fires three, he's annoying, he
swamps heavy. He's like Riggy Miller, not as good, but reincarnated.
This could not be. It's just it's the nineties all
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over again, and it's gonna be so much fun. But
you're right, Look whoever gets out of the West that
if you're a Knicks fan, I would root for the
Denver Nuggets. I want no part, no part of the
Oklahoma City Thunder. So if I'm a Knick fan, I
root for Denver. Maybe you guys disagree, but look, that
was a hell of an effort. And Guys, I can't
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believe I'm saying that the Knicks have a real chance
to win an NBA title this year. I can't believe
I'm saying it on the radio, dre millions of people.
But them's are the facts, boys, and you know I
love that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well, all Knicks like you and I. We're all celebrating
like we won the title. They're climbing lightholes. We're all
talking about who the Knicks are going to play in
the finals, and it's like they've been to there. We
gotten out of two rounds of the playoffs that but
it's like we won the whole thing tonight.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Hey, look like I said, that's why when the first quares, Boys,
you ask me, and what I say, there's still work
to do. You did not put this team together to
win two rounds in the playoffs. You put this team
together to win an NBA championship. But there's a realistic
window here. You know, the Knicks finisher the day at home.
The Nicks have a home court advantage in the Eastern
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Conference titles.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
A second boy, all right, And by the way, if
the Timberwolves go to the finals, you know who's gonna
have the home court advantage in the NBA Finals two?
You're New York next.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So this is real. There's work to do. They have
to keep playing well, but there is enjoy the series win.
Plenty of work to do, but this is real. You know,
I'm always won the poor cold water on stuff. I'm
very realistic. I've seen too much. You guys have seen
too much as Nick fans. It always goes wrong. They
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have a real shot here, what is real?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I gotta ask the obvious question first, John Dan Smith,
you'll just punch me, is uh? You know, after the
euphoria wears off and you punch yourself out and you
go to sleep, how soon did the nightmares of Reggie
Miller come back?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
You think we're gonna sleep, Well, eventually you're gonna pass out.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I'm not saying it's a it's a natural. Hey, I'm
going to bad thing. Eventually, your body's just gonna collapse somewhere.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Hey, look here, here's the thing about Reggie Miller. Reggie
Miller had some really awesome moments against the Knicks. The
Knicks also had some really awesome moments against Reggie Miller.
They knocked him out of the playoffs more than once
in the nineties. So yes, Reggie got the Knicks a
couple of times, and a couple of times in heartbreaking fashion.
But you know the Knicks beat to go to the
NBA finals four Pacers boys. So yeah, Reggie Miller, you
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hate him, he's tired's the worst, but Nick beat him
and now it's time to be pry. Tyler Barton too.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Mix inside of John Smilkey.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
He's on Twitter, hatch ilk you can find them there
are at the top of any kind of light pole
somewhere in the New Jersey metropolitan area. After the wind tonight, John,
Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you during the
East Finals.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
All right, I'm gonna land in New Jersey.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I'm talking.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
The Conference finals. Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Mix Insider like Mix Insider, Let's go. I mean, I mean,
it was great. And now it's in between the.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Go to sleep when the knickser hoists and Hilario O'Brien trophy.
Uh Now, I realize this is a little bit of hyperbole. Okay,
it's a little bit of hyperbole because but going into
this city, you know, thinking about this the last com
and I was thinking, honestly, I was thinking about this
coming into work tonight as as I'm listening and the
Knicks are just pouring it on the Celtics and I'm beeping,
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laying on my horn, I'm banging my horn and I'm
screaming in my car up until tonight.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Did you cause that accident delayed me at your twenty bars?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You know I did not.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Thinking about this right in my lifetime. Okay, Patrick Ewing
has been the greatest nick all right, hall of Famer,
got the Knicks to two finals, multiple All Stars, right,
you know, failed a little bit like I keep thinking
of showing that miss in the Eastern Conference Finals in
ninety five when he just finger rolled it out.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Fuer rolls, I mean dunked the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But Patterwing.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Patrick Ewing generally has been viewed as the greatest Nick.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean sanity lin Sanity had those couple of weeks.
He had a few weeks that was going.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
He didn't make it his number two. He didn't even
make it to the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I realized this is now the first time that Brunson
has even gotten the Knicks as far as the Eastern
Conference Finals. But you know, thinking back, you know, hey,
Ewing brought the Knicks out of absolute obscurity. They were
terrible for so long. Bent up envelope showed up. It
wasn't bent. It was cold, Okay, just it wasn't bent.
It wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It was low cold, it was cold. It was cold.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It was really really cold.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I can't touch this, but uh, quite honestly, now, if
you ask Knicks fans who's the greatest Nick of all time,
they'll all tell you Jalen Brunson, little bit prisoner of
the moment, but also a little bit of the Knicks,
bringing the big Knicks back from obscurity over the last years,
when they had all kinds of stars come in to
try to do it right, then all kinds.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Of stars come in.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Can we do it? Can we make it? And Jalen
Brunson has done this. He's taken less money. He is.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He is more beloved in it as an by Knicks
fans than Ewing ever was.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ewing was great, but it was ah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We fell short in the finals here, we fell short
in the finals here, and really the one finals we
could have won twenty five years ago. He tears his
achilles when we could have beaten the Spurs, but that
you know, it wasn't his fault. But Brunson has been
able to persevere and lead the team past where anybody
thought they could.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You has to. He is.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
He is the He is the greatest Nick of all
time right now. He's the greatest, but there's a couple
of things that also go into it. I mean, Ewing
was notoriously not a guy that did a whole lot
of interviews and other than the quote of we make
a lot of money and we spend a lot of
money when we were talking about work stoppages, he was
a guy that didn't really have the best relationship. He's
(29:13):
also a guy that the weight of the world and
expectations were there frozen envelope theories aside decorated career at
Georgetown that we watched every minute of. Right, that was
when college basketball was one of the rulers of our
sporting world. And you watch these guys, you got to
know them, whether you liked them or not. Between he
Alonso Morning to ken Ba mctamba and John Thompson like
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they were, and then you had Alan Iverson, I mean
you just had this squad that we paid attention to.
On a whole other level, Jalen Brunson was the guy
that was the also ran when Lucas showed up in Dallas.
He's short with you know the big back porch, right,
He's not the quick guy, he's not lanky.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's not the prototypical star.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Of the NBA. Oh, and he's a colossal smart asset
the microphone, so he's very embraceable, and he's got that
workmanlike thing that wins.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
He's not something.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Feet right like that that usually disqualified center.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
What we talk greatest of all time? What do we do?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
We don't talk about Koreean and Wilt. They get just
put off from their own corner. And you know it's like, ah, whatever,
they were seven feet tall, Like, let's talk about these guys.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Jalen Brunson is that guy on a whole other level.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Telling you Brunson is now the greatest Nick of all time?
Any Nick fan, that's really sad. I know it's sad.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Even talk about car Mellow and it's okay's.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Better than Carmelo ad Jalen, But I mean, I'm just
saying you you just went right past it. We got
to insane.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Any reference, he's on the lie that game can be there, Jaliheim,
the only title Mellow can be there.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Jalen Brunson's greater.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's a metal stand. I mean, actually is Mellow fourth?
This is the fourth?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Probably maybe fourth?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's a really sad mount Rushmore. But hell, I'm telling
you get you there. Brunson is now the greatest nick ever.
And it's crazy and it's a little sad, but it's true.
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world sports with someone who's been called the Patrick Ewing
of Fox Sports Radio. She makes a lot of money
because she spends a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's manzi milagya.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I don't know if I make a lot of money,
but I definitely spend a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
That is absolutely accurate. Thank you, Poppy Chulo. Yep, thank
you Poppy. Though from letting that be a thing.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Uh, the total domination as you guys have been talking
about between the Knicks and the Celtics. Here's a little
of what Jaylen Brown had to say after the loss.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Things didn't go our way this year and it's unfortunate,
but you know, we hold our head up regardless losing
to the Knicks. You know, it feels like death. But
I was always taught that there's after there's life after death,
so we'll get ready for whatever's next. Whatever that was dark,
I'll be ready.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Wow, that was really dark.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well it was maybe they'd played better in the third quarter.
I mean, what's clearly he found Jesus what I told
you at the end of the Celtics era might be here.
Is that dark in the locker room already?
Speaker 9 (32:02):
Well?
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Life after death, my goodness, so.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Good carrying the dead through the streets exactly. I'm pretty
biggest Smalls album.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Nuggets Ford Aaron Gordon has been diagnosed with the left
hamstring hamstring strings, so his status isn't out for Game seven.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Against the Thunder, which is on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Another Game seven will be happening on Sunday, but this
time it's gonna be on the ice because the Maple
Leaves kept their season alive, shutting out the Panthers to zero.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
In baseball, everyone's getting shut out right now. The Giants
are shutting.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Out the A's four zero, Wolmer Flora's with the grand
slam AT's the bottom of the fifth inning in San Francisco.
The Mariners are shutting out the Padres in San Diego
five zero, top of the eighth inning. The Diamondbacks are
shutting out the Rockies at home five zero, top of
the seventh inning, and the Angels were shutting out the Dodgers,
but the Dodgers on the scoreboard. Angels are still up
for to one bottom of the fifth inning.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Tigers are the first team to reach thirty one.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Wait, didn't the Nick shut out the Celtics.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
To night pretty much pretty much so pretty much so
practically Yeah, yeah, Tigers of the Pristine to reach thirty wins.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
They held on to defeat the Blue Jays five to four.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
The Braves top the Red Sox four to two, and
the Astro snapped the Rangers six game winning streak with
the six to three win.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
Twins.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Keep on rolling, they keep on winning. They've won twelve.
They shut out the Brewers three zero. Back to you, guys, thanks.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
A bunch of mon Yes, Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, the
biggest lesson that we have learned about the NBA season
to this point, we'll tell you, and it's gonna shock you.
It's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (33:56):
You remember the Knicks being relegated to that small court
in the NBA Finals. You know, I actually was working
at ESPN and I was fonting the font not the
fun and I was fonting like the the eleven o'clock
Sports Center, I want to say, which is when you're
in charge of all the graphics. And it was insane
(34:16):
because I'm watching Game six of the of the NBA Final,
which the Knicks won, and it's a dual split screen
of their chasing OJ and the Knicks on the other screen,
and I'm like, oh my goodness, I can't get past this. Right,
And now, now, Knicks nostalgia is going to be around
for the next four days, the Knicks and the conference
finals for the first time in twenty five years. It's
already everywhere any NBA channel you look on. Here's the
(34:37):
last time the Knicks were in the finals back in
nineteen ninety nine. Here's a history of the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
And the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Right, So you're gonna get Nicks nostalgia for the next
few days. Again, it's the nineties, but I vividly remember
in the I still was crazy the Knicks win Game six, right,
But obviously everybody watched the and the OJ chase and
stuttering John from Howard Stern Show was at the Knicks game.
They went to ask questions when he would go ask questions,
and he asked Pat Riley in the post game, he's called.
(35:04):
He calls me, Pat, do you think if oj cut
to his left he would.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Have gone away?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And and Pack goes, what, let me talk?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And here the Pierre go go get him out, get
him out.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Get him out?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Pack goes, what is he? What does he talk like?
Pat had no idea, like, what are we talking?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
The cut left? Did he get away?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But wow, the Knicker in the East Finals, it's Nicks,
Pacers t Wolves, and the winner of tomorrow's game between
the Thunder and the Nuggets will pick that game and
give you a preview of it coming up in a bit.
Right now, this moment in time, the biggest lesson, the
biggest thinking we can learn from this season in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Okay, And if this doesn't tell you nothing does? Are
we just talking on court or.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
On court?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Everything else on court.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
On court, on court, on on camera, on court, The
NBA regular season is irrelevant. If this should be the
season to tell you that what happens the first eighty
two games is absolutely irrelevant because we're seeing lower seeds
come in and win big rounds in the NBA playoffs
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when you don't normally we didn't use to normally see that.
We're seeing big seeds go out in the second round
that were incredibly dominant from the end of October all
the way until two weeks ago. The three coming into
the playoffs. Right, we talked about this a lot. The
three best teams in the NBA a regular season and
they're far away better than everybody else, The Calves, the Celtics,
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and the Thunder, three best teams in the NBA, and
then the next level of contenders. And we said, hey,
it's the Knicks and the Nuggets and the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Right, that was enough.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
But those three teams were so far ahead, and I
remember even saying, it's if we're talking about an NBA
Finals that's not Thunder Celtics or Thunder Calves. Something is wrong.
And that could still happen under a home for Game
seven against against the Nuggets tomorrow. But think about this now,
the three best teams in the NBA. The Cavaliers don't
(37:08):
get out of the second round, the Celtics don't get
out of the second round, and the thunder or one
game away from potentially not getting out of the second round. Like,
that's how irrelevant the regular season is. Just get in,
Just get into the playing round. And this is why
it goes back to what I say, Hey, if you
can make a move at the deadline and improve your team,
it doesn't matter if you're an eight seed or a
(37:30):
seventh seed, you can still get out. It doesn't matter
if you're a sixth seed. Go for it. Because the
playoffs change, injuries happen, bad matchups happen. All of these
things have happened.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
The Celtics suddenly turned into a bad matchup for the
Knicks because defensively and physically, the Knicks were absolutely dominant
over the Celtics. The injuries hit the Cavaliers, they couldn't
get past the first part of the playoffs, and the
Pacers proved, hey, we're pretty good too. Right now, you
look at the Western Conference, the Tea Wolves said, we
don't care about you guys. Getting Luca doesn't matter what
you did in the regular season, and it was a clinic.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The regular season is irrelevant if you think you can
improve your team go for it. Go for it, because
when the playoffs start, everything is different. Now do the real, real,
real bottom feeders the teams, Hey, do we go crazy
to try to get into the playing round? Okay, chances
are you're not getting at the bottom of the playing
round is really really low. But if you're like a
(38:23):
A anywhere from five through eight or five through nine seed,
and yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Go for it because you don't know what can happen.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, you talk about health, which is always number one
going on many a year here in the NBA, But
for a long time it's been the question in the
regular season where we used to have that whiteboard when
we were in the studio down the hall where it'd
be like, all right, who's gonna win this year?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
And we come up with the three names.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
All right, there's the Warriors, there's the Cavaliers, and then
you'd pick whoever was the second and was gonna challenge, saying, ah,
can the Warriors really keep going? And then it was
all right, who else in the east? Some then Cavaliers
have by somebody go ahead into it. So you'd put
another team there unwillingly, but you'd get to it. But
the last few years we've asked a lot, what's the
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motivation to try to grind for eighty two games? You're
looking at it straight through the lens of a Knicks
fan who watched a squad that was really good, not deep,
but very good. In terms of your one through six
last year?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
They fell like flies and you can immediately attribute it
to Yeah, you could say a lot of time on
the court together is great. Yeah, a lot of time
on the court also begets the injuries, and that's what
you fell to time and time again. So you're trying
to find that balance. But to your point, you just
need to be healthy. Come April fifteenth, tell on tax Day,
pay your tax. Isn't going to the playoffs the regular season.
(39:47):
This season should tell you how irrelevant the regular season
is in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Jason and Mike coming up next way.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Don't you hear what one guy who had to walk
to work last week had to say.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
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to the Conference finals once every twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, no, no, just not loud.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I was having my Ross Geller moment to go back
in the pop culture time machine of celebrate but guys,
and then he motioned to kind of keep it down.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It just got loudly. It got very loudly. Indeed, when
it gets loudly, it stayed there though.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
There were no breaks because the Celtics put up no resistance,
and then it was highlight after highlight. I was being
bludgeoned in an auditory fashion for forty minutes before the
big voice guy announced.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It's it's like this, this is loud, like this is.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Like when my kids were little and they just start
banging pots because my mom didn't want to chase them
around here. Occupy yourself, say why did you give them pots?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Playing chilling?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's what it sounded like, you know, speaking of kids.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I got because I gotta tell you this, right, I
gotta tell you this today, because this is where I
stopped for a second and I said, are you kidding me?
So you know, all the big Knicks fans that that
are at the game, Timothy Shallomey goes to all the games,
you know, Shallow May is gen Z's Tom cruise like
he's gen Z's Tom. Everybody loves Shallow May. My daughter
loves Shallow May. All her friends love Shallow May. My
(02:27):
daughter is big into acting and singing and writing and everything.
Love Shallow May, Love Shallow May. She says to me yesterday,
right when we said, okay, what's the schedule like tomorrow?
I said, well, tomorrow, I'm gonna I'm going into work.
I'm leaving it, you know, five whatever it is getting tomorrow,
and tomorrow we're going to the Eastern Conference finals, so
you know, it's a big night tomorrow at work. And
she goes, oh, right, right right, the Knicks are playing.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah. She goes, ah, I hope they win.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Anything, and I said, she said, I hope they win
because I hope they win for Shallow May.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And I said, hang on, and I almost pulled the
car over. I was pulled the car over.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I said, wait, I said, did you just say you
hope they win for Shallow May.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Not, you hope they win for your dad, who's been
a Nick fan since the early nineteen eight the late
seventies when the Knicks were terrible and I had to
watch Roy Williams and Sugar Ray Richardson play and the
Knicks lose every game by twenty. You don't want it
for your dad, but Shallow may And I'm doing this
kind of half fun, half serious. She goes, well, he's
at all the games. Oh oh, he's not all the
(03:26):
gal Oh right, yeah, you know what, Yeah, right, yes,
you're right. I hope they win for Shallow May too.
I almost is like, you can go live with somebody else.
I can go Shallomey can come live with us. You
can come live with.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Us and stay.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I hang out in your room and see all the
stuff up on the wall and all that. I ain't
come live with us. You can go live someplace else.
I hope they win for Shallow may Red. What it's
like my whole family does that to me. Yeah, but
you're gonna watch me for a decade. I had three
people living in the house who couldn't give it a
damn what I did or what I talked to about.
I hope like Dad goes to work, Dad makes a
(03:58):
little bit of money, Dad cooked. Only as my younger
daughter has gotten older, does she really actually care about
what how's the show or not? What are we doing?
Like today I'm leaving. She goes, what do you I'm like, yeah,
the next are gonna win. Yeah, Jason's gonna be loud, good,
but he's gonna buy pizza. Yeah, so I mean, you know, yeah, no,
you gotta give a little bites, but he's gonna be
(04:19):
loud all night.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
But but the fact that she asked, like it's really
a breakthrough kind of moment, like you actually are worried
about the sporting calendar. Now she'll ask about the w
NBA coming back, right that's in her timeline, or the
women's soccer league and what's going on, or when the
national team plays.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
There's some interest there.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Otherwise it's bocking my squads because if it shows up
in the timeline, it means a guy got hit in
the head with.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
A pop up or something like that.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I would also rather have no being in the timeline
than than my daughter's I hope they win.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
For chalam, do you even think about me?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Think about me, the the the investment that I put
You don't think about me first s, But you're in
the seventh circle of chalomade ash. Hey, uh so for
an exercise for your family, we're gonna draw the middle
of the fact, draw where you believe your spot is
on the family, and and where everybody else is in
relation to you, and then like I'm all the way
(05:11):
out like in Hawf and Shallow.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
May is like right next to it.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's the picture of from off the shows when they
draw the family, everybody's hold then who's that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's Tidy, who's that daddy.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Zobey draws herself in the middle, Shallow May right next
to her. Pam is just a little bit further out there.
It's kind so it's kind of like the Sun, Mercury
and Venus and I'm in I mean, I'm in haf
I'm all the way out on the outer rim where
you got to send some kind of imperial droid. Ah
there there, let's go there right now, Captain Piet, we're
going there. That you're still a plane at this point.
(05:43):
You haven't been downgrade.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Keep going back? What was it took?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like oh, ad Astra where they went to Uranus and
it took like oh no, Neptune, Neptune, Neptune. Yeah, no,
I don't think you can get the net dream like
because it's too on the nose. It was like a
seth rogen I had comedy. I don't think you can
go to your age. It's just three hundred year trip
to Neptune whatever, or passengers where it's like it's five
hundred years and about Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence are gonna,
(06:09):
you know, have some kind of garden growing at the end,
and they're the only ones awake.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I will have to.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Find it at some point.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I read a review that started with the first paragraph
just said don't And I never saw passengers. I never
had any interests there, even with those two leads, who
normally I trust their sensibilities, right, Pratt funny, can go
serious the time, but generally kind of a jackass. Jennifer Lawrence, Yeah,
there's a misstep here and there, but taking chances.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So normally you pair those together. I'll get on board
that one.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Again.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I saw the don't like all right, I believe you
missed a reviewer. I was gonna ask you, like, like,
why didn't they like? Because the whole thing is so
that it's style spoilers. So the whole thing is that
they're all on this trip to go live in this
faraway plan. They're we're colonizing another planet and Jennifer Lawrence
is some sort of influencer writer and Chris Pratt accidentally,
(07:03):
you know, they meet before they get on the the
the on the ship, and Chris Pratt is smitten with her,
and something happens and Pratt wakes up like threw us
to sleep through this like five hundred year journey.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
But he's got inside the he's at night terrors whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
He wakes up somehow he wakes up and he's lonely,
so he wakes up Jennifer Lawrence and and doesn't tell
her that, oh yeah, I woke you up, And then
it becomes Then she finally finds out midway through the
movie when Michael Sheen shows up kind of like the
bartender in in uh in the Shining and uh so,
I'll say, and I'm going, so she gets mad and
the whole big thing, and I'm sitting there going, you.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Know, I get they were mad, but why didn't they
just wake other people up? At that point?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, you know, whatever, who do we who do you
want to get?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Let's have this guy. Guy looks like he could be
Let's wake this guy up. Let's wake this guy up.
And this guy and this guy and all right, that's great,
that's what we have. Right, And this guy, if we
wake him up, I'm men, look at him. He ain't
chased me down.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's a long time, all right, We're here, That's what
it is.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We can't we can only play so many games of
war with the dec and cards that I owned over here. Well, look,
the Knicks aspect of this, we will have more, continually,
have more on today. We're gonna check in with Nicks
insider John Schmiel coming up in a few minutes. Who's
at Madison Square Garden for this game.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I have to get you another newspaper now. But yeah,
well yeah, well well yeah, well I got I got
to thank him for that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, he said, sent me, uh sent you to give
to me the back page of the Knicks of the
New York Post from the other day, the real live copy,
real life newspaper clip.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Flip it over to the top.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He got that too, I got, yeah, I got the
wicked good then back page of the Post. The front
page of the Post on the bridges steel from Tatum.
You know when Tatum was.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Playing, uh but for the Celtics. I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Look, but he didn't tap out like all the Celtics tonight.
We will have more on the Knicks part, obviously going
on and and winning and what this means for them.
But for the Celtics for a few minutes, right, like,
they're the champs last year and it looked like the
era of and this shows you how tenuous things are
in the NBA, because the Celtics win and they're set up, right,
(08:59):
they're they're set up. You have Tatum has become a star,
Jalen Brown is a star.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You're paying him.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Derek White's a guy that's incredibly valuable. Peyton Pritchey want
up winning six Man of the Year this year. Porzingis
who potentially could have been the MVP of the Finals
last year a couple of games that he had. We're
able to flip that series in the Celtics way. Like
you said, okay, they're all set. This era of the
Celtics is now all set to go. And now they
don't get out of the second round. They're not really
(09:27):
competitive against the Knicks, right they want you know, they're
not really competitive. And now Jason Tatum is out for
probably at least nine months.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So now if.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You're the Celtics, you're saying Okay, So now next year,
who knows what it's gonna be. A year after that,
it's gonna be we have to decide who we want
to pay and keep. And this is how this is.
This is how fast things go from the era of
the Celtics is here too. This era of the Celtics
might be over because we don't know are they still
gonna be this good again. Tatum's gonna be out, It's
(09:57):
gonna be a nine plus month injury, and who knows
when he gets back to being himself, he might not
be himself for another year after this. Right, generally you
see guys with achilles injuries. This is kind of how
it goes. So it's gonna be another year. If boy,
we're paying Jalen Brown all this money, you know, now
here's other players coming up, other players that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Need to get paid.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Are we gonna keep this team or in a year
is it gonna be a completely different Celtics supporting cast
because their era of dominance never really got here. They
won once, but then Tatum gets hurt, they lose in
the second round because clearly, even with Tatum, they weren't
up to Knicks. They weren't up to the knixt level.
They weren't up to the physicality of the playoff basketball.
(10:37):
It was they weren't up to stopping the Knicks players.
This was a Knicks rollover series, right, They win the
first two, the Celtics win, went okay, we keep it going. Here,
they win Game five when the Knicks have basically put
it away to come back in Game six, and Knicks
win Game six by seventy five points. So they weren't
close to the Knicks this year. Yes, every year is new,
but they had the regular season dominance against the Knicks
(10:59):
this year and they flipped it on its head for
the playoffs. So I go from here's the era of
the Celtics that was here too? Is this era ever
getting off the ground? And I could say the same
thing for the Cavaliers. It was the era of the
Cavaliers or the regular season they had nine deep. They
can't get out of the second round. So are these
two teams that were so great do they need all
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kinds of adjustment? We talked about how the doors open
for Lebron to go play in Cleveland and finish in
Cleveland when the Lakers boot them out after this year, Hey,
I'll go home maybe I'll take it back to the
Eastern Conference. I'll take a team. Yeah, I'll take the
pressure off those players that need someone to take the
pressure off, and I'll finish off at home.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Like that's how fast.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Things change in the NBA, This era where all of
a sudden, the Calves and Celtics looked like, hey, we
could run.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
This conference for the next two to three years.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
That's over, and now the Nixon Pacers can run the
conference for the next three years.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Now it may change next year, you know. Now things
are gonna go. But just that fast.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Three weeks ago, it was the Celtics and Cavaliers collision
course for the Eastern Conference finals. Right, they're two of
the three best teams in the league. They're both going home.
And now, all of a sudden, here's a new era,
and it's a young team in the Knicks and a
young team in the Indiana Pacers that all have their
guys paid all the guys the next couple of years.
This is how fast things change. I also feel validated
(12:13):
to a point because I asked all year long whether
the Celtics truly were deep enough, good enough or was
it cosmetically well since they were the champs were giving
them the benefit.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, they gave away or the Knicks came and took
however you wanted to describe it, right, depending which column
you want to write or which talking points you want.
Celtics big leads game one and two and they lose
both those games. So it wasn't completely a run away. Yes,
the Knicks won those games, but competitive first two games.
And then we get to the end of this with
(12:44):
Tatum on the sidelines, and you have to ask, we
have no idea what the hell's going on with porzingis right,
we're talking about a little bit behind the scenes. I mean,
there's a lot of rampant speculation. The guys clearly not
well not himself. So we hope they find answers to
what ever is going on and you can get back
to form. But you just saw an absolute beat down and.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
A quit situation.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There was no fight, Like that's the other part of this, Like, yeah, what,
you're happy that you got to celebrate a title a
year ago.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Ah, you know what, that was fun. These guys are
beating a hell lot of us.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Let's go home.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I saw no level of juice whatsoever in the second
half to even try to get back into this game.
They were done and then ords quite clearly, as we
talked about a lot in the first hour, they treated
it like it was a two to nothing game the
entire way. And and kudos to the squad for finishing
the job and living up to their reputation their expectations.
(13:45):
But for the Celtics, yeah, you've got a There were
a lot of questions before this playoffs came came to
bear of how long this would be right, not necessarily
the dynastic question because we love to throw that around,
but just the core before they split up and moved on, right,
That was being asked before they won the title last year,
(14:06):
should they just break up Brown and Tatum and move on? Well,
now you don't even have that choice, and you have
to you have no money to spend. Yeah, right, because
that's the other part of the equation. It's like, help's
not just walking through that door and anything you thought
you had in terms of depth in terms of trade chips,
because that was earlier as they were down to well,
it's like, ah, they can make do this, this and
(14:26):
this go get you honest, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Any of these guys.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You could go do like there's no matchup that and
with those supporting players. Now that really makes a lot
of sense for the Bucks if that if they come
to that versus the other trade packages that are out there.
So and there's no easy fix for these Celtics and
now you're chasing the Knicks the things I never thought
I'd say. The era of the Celtics we thought was
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here may be over and they may need it because
it's gonna be another year I mean, and the Calves
it may not arrive for them. That's how fast things
change in the NBA. And you have a bunch of
teams in that back end of the bracket that are
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Who should be meeting in the NBA Finals? Nix and
Who Nixon? Who that's next?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Right here?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
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Speaker 3 (15:46):
I can relax. The Knicks are in the finals.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Relax for a few days until Wednesday night. I can
relax and worry about the Mets in the Subway Series. Relax.
The are in there. We're gonna sweep the Pacers. Conference finals. Finals,
doesn't matter. Finals, It's like finals is there.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
It's like Andy Bernard when they say, hey, how is management?
How is anger? Management? Training?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Goes well?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Management training?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The Knicks are in the East Finals.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
They will take on the Pacers after their burial of
the Celtics tonight. Joining us now from outside of Madison
Square Garden at the top of a light pole because
Knicks fans is celebrating like they won the finals tonight.
Nicks insider John Schmielkey is on Twitter at Shmilk, longtime
friend of the show.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
How you doing man? You sent me that picture of
you at the game.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I can imagine it must have just been an entire
party since midway through the second quarter.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Yeah, I just drove through the Lincoln Tunnel. I did
not need my card to get home. I could have
floated home.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Or flown home.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I just don't want to have to go back into
the city tomorrow morning at my car. So this is
just convenient. I could have lunched myself from thirty third
Street and Eighth Avenue and set my butt back. That
set your new jersey, baby. Oh man, twy look still
work to do. Let's be very clear about that. Still
work to do. You gotta beat the Pacers, but twenty
(17:18):
five years is a long time. Enjoy the stick fans.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I'll tell you I have no one believed me on
the show this week when I said, oh, they lose
Game five, I said, I'm fine, we are gonna blow
the doors off of them in game six. It's gonna
be different. It's gonna be officiated differently. The Knicks are
going to be more physical. They're smelling blood. They kind
of halfway went for it in game five, and they
all thought I was crapsed. Oh you're just you're just
trying to You're trying to show us you're not nervous.
(17:44):
I'm like, no, we are gonna win big on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
And here we go. It happened.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah. Look, I did not think I'd be sitting there
in that building tonight and the Nicks would be leading
by forty one points in the third quarter. I mean,
that place for twenty four minutes of basketball in like
an hour and a half a real time, was just
a party. The only thing people got mad about is
that Thibodau wasn't taking the starter. Than that place was
(18:13):
absolutely lit, guys, And look, I said, as you know,
twenty five years since they've been to these inn Conference finals,
that might have been the best defense I've seen a
Nick team play in twenty five years too. They shut
the Celtics down. The count Bridges heraced, Derek White, Jalen
Brown fouled out in the third quarter. It was utter
(18:35):
domination in every facet of the game.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
At what point did the did you think the Celtics quit?
When did the spirit leave the body?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
I think when Shireman made an appearance in the third quarter. Look,
I think it was a point at the end of
the second quarter where the Celtics I think in one
three and it looked like they're about to make a run,
and then the Knicks counted with like three straight baskets
and they're up by thirty points at a half time.
(19:07):
The game wasn't over yet, but it was darn close.
And then you know, so they's mad a couple of
shots to start the third knicks down's right back, they
got a bit you know, forty and then guys, that
was it. You know, it was Badulla pulled everyone and man,
just what a game. And again it's I don't think
(19:29):
fans understand how I mean they do, but if you
the root for the next how bad the last twenty
five years have been, or at least twenty the last
twenty five years watching you know, Ron Baker and Kyle O'Quinn,
who was probably one of the better guys he got
to watch. I mean, my gosh, Alexi sid who Knicks
fans were in love with Damian Boxon my gosh, go
(19:53):
through the list. It was bad, David Fizdale's regime, Larry Brown,
for my god, I say it, Thomas, it's as bad
as it was the lowest of the lows. And to
finally get to see this in that building for a night,
it was a blast and it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So as we look at the squad because Jason and
I were really celebrating, and I did so maybe a
little muted because my guy's been at volume. You know,
you turn it to eleven on spinal tap. He broke
the knob off John. I mean, there's there's just there's
just no about it. But all of that, with the
defense still up thirty, still challenging plays, all of that,
(20:38):
it's like, I like it. The uh I believe you
actually said, you know, don't don't get off their necks,
and they didn't.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
They didn't. They did not lay it off. And look,
if this team can play like that defensively the rest
of this postseason, they can win an NBA championship if
they can keep that level of intensity on defense. Carl
Anthony Towns was locked in. Boys, you do not see
that very often from non defense. That dude was locked in.
(21:10):
If he can play like that for two more rounds,
the Knicks can win a championship. That's not hyperbolic, that's facts.
That's where we're at. This team has not played that
way consistently this year. They've been maddeningly inconsistent. But if
you can bring that type of effort defensively here, the
Knicks can be NBA champions in the Year of Our
(21:32):
Lord twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
The Knicks are here to save the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
John, They're here to save the playoffs because we got
Minnesota and maybe Oklahoma City and the Pacer.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
The Knicks are here to save the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well wait, you're telling me Mike Silver doesn't want in Indiana,
Minnesota or Indiana Oklahoma City NBA finals, but you said
not have only luck on this planet since the u
A lottery. They have that zero luck. They've gotten no
help to start pulling some strakes. Baby, you gotta get
the big ball get into the finals. Adam siliverthon what'll hey, that's.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It one a week, it's been well, look at where
we're at.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
John, Listen, it's already gonna be a Knicks final four.
It's gonna be like a Hallmark Christmas movie because it's
the Knicks and the Pacers who are synonymous with the
Knicks in the playoffs, Randall and de Vincenzo and probably Hartenstein.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's an entirely Knicks final fourth.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's everything we need right now.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Look, bitch goes back to the nineties and Nick Pacers,
where they've kind of went back and forth, like neither
team dominated in the nineties. One year the Pacers would win,
then the Knicks would win. Well, guess what, boys, Payback's
a bitch here, cuts and nick and lots of the faces.
Last year Kyrie Halliburn. Look, he's a really good player,
(22:50):
but he is such a perfect like sequel to Reggie Miller.
He's lanky, he's skinny, he fires three, he's annoying, he
swamps heavy. He's like Riggy Miller, not as good, but reincarnated.
This could not be. It's just it's the nineties all
(23:10):
over again, and it's gonna be so much fun. But
you're right, Look whoever gets out of the West that
if you're a Knicks fan, I would root for the
Denver Nuggets. I want no part, no part of the
Oklahoma City Thunder. So if I'm a Knick fan, I
root for Denver. Maybe you guys disagree, but look, that
was a hell of an effort. And Guys, I can't
(23:31):
believe I'm saying that the Knicks have a real chance
to win an NBA title this year. I can't believe
I'm saying it on the radio, dre millions of people.
But them's are the facts, boys, and you know I
love that.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Well, all Knicks like you and I. We're all celebrating
like we won the title. They're climbing lightholes. We're all
talking about who the Knicks are going to play in
the finals, and it's like they've been to there. We
gotten out of two rounds of the playoffs that but
it's like we won the whole thing tonight.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Hey, look like I said, that's why when the first quares, Boys,
you ask me, and what I say, there's still work
to do. You did not put this team together to
win two rounds in the playoffs. You put this team
together to win an NBA championship. But there's a realistic
window here. You know, the Knicks finisher the day at home.
The Nicks have a home court advantage in the Eastern
(24:18):
Conference titles.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
A second boy, all right, And by the way, if
the Timberwolves go to the finals, you know who's gonna
have the home court advantage in the NBA Finals two?
You're New York next.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So this is real. There's work to do. They have
to keep playing well, but there is enjoy the series win.
Plenty of work to do, but this is real. You know,
I'm always won the poor cold water on stuff. I'm
very realistic. I've seen too much. You guys have seen
too much as Nick fans. It always goes wrong. They
(24:55):
have a real shot here, what is real?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I gotta ask the obvious question first, John Dan Smith,
you'll just punch me, is uh? You know, after the
euphoria wears off and you punch yourself out and you
go to sleep, how soon did the nightmares of Reggie
Miller come back?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
You think we're gonna sleep, Well, eventually you're gonna pass out.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I'm not saying it's a it's a natural. Hey, I'm
going to bad thing. Eventually, your body's just gonna collapse somewhere.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Hey, look here, here's the thing about Reggie Miller. Reggie
Miller had some really awesome moments against the Knicks. The
Knicks also had some really awesome moments against Reggie Miller.
They knocked him out of the playoffs more than once
in the nineties. So yes, Reggie got the Knicks a
couple of times, and a couple of times in heartbreaking fashion.
But you know the Knicks beat to go to the
NBA finals four Pacers boys. So yeah, Reggie Miller, you
(25:47):
hate him, he's tired's the worst, but Nick beat him
and now it's time to be pry. Tyler Barton too.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Mix inside of John Smilkey.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
He's on Twitter, hatch ilk you can find them there
are at the top of any kind of light pole
somewhere in the New Jersey metropolitan area. After the wind tonight, John,
Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you during the
East Finals.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
All right, I'm gonna land in New Jersey.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I'm talking.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
The Conference finals. Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Mix Insider like Mix Insider, Let's go. I mean, I mean,
it was great. And now it's in between the.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Go to sleep when the knickser hoists and Hilario O'Brien trophy.
Uh Now, I realize this is a little bit of hyperbole. Okay,
it's a little bit of hyperbole because but going into
this city, you know, thinking about this the last com
and I was thinking, honestly, I was thinking about this
coming into work tonight as as I'm listening and the
Knicks are just pouring it on the Celtics and I'm beeping,
(26:52):
laying on my horn, I'm banging my horn and I'm
screaming in my car up until tonight.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Did you cause that accident delayed me at your twenty bars?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You know I did not.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Thinking about this right in my lifetime. Okay, Patrick Ewing
has been the greatest nick all right, hall of Famer,
got the Knicks to two finals, multiple All Stars, right,
you know, failed a little bit like I keep thinking
of showing that miss in the Eastern Conference Finals in
ninety five when he just finger rolled it out.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Fuer rolls, I mean dunked the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But Patterwing.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Patrick Ewing generally has been viewed as the greatest Nick.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean sanity lin Sanity had those couple of weeks.
He had a few weeks that was going.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
He didn't make it his number two. He didn't even
make it to the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I realized this is now the first time that Brunson
has even gotten the Knicks as far as the Eastern
Conference Finals. But you know, thinking back, you know, hey,
Ewing brought the Knicks out of absolute obscurity. They were
terrible for so long. Bent up envelope showed up. It
wasn't bent. It was cold, Okay, just it wasn't bent.
It wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
It was low cold, it was cold. It was cold.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It was really really cold.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I can't touch this, but uh, quite honestly, now, if
you ask Knicks fans who's the greatest Nick of all time,
they'll all tell you Jalen Brunson, little bit prisoner of
the moment, but also a little bit of the Knicks,
bringing the big Knicks back from obscurity over the last years,
when they had all kinds of stars come in to
try to do it right, then all kinds.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Of stars come in.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Can we do it? Can we make it? And Jalen
Brunson has done this. He's taken less money. He is.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He is more beloved in it as an by Knicks
fans than Ewing ever was.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ewing was great, but it was ah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We fell short in the finals here, we fell short
in the finals here, and really the one finals we
could have won twenty five years ago. He tears his
achilles when we could have beaten the Spurs, but that
you know, it wasn't his fault. But Brunson has been
able to persevere and lead the team past where anybody
thought they could.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You has to. He is.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
He is the He is the greatest Nick of all
time right now. He's the greatest, but there's a couple
of things that also go into it. I mean, Ewing
was notoriously not a guy that did a whole lot
of interviews and other than the quote of we make
a lot of money and we spend a lot of
money when we were talking about work stoppages, he was
a guy that didn't really have the best relationship. He's
(29:13):
also a guy that the weight of the world and
expectations were there frozen envelope theories aside decorated career at
Georgetown that we watched every minute of. Right, that was
when college basketball was one of the rulers of our
sporting world. And you watch these guys, you got to
know them, whether you liked them or not. Between he
Alonso Morning to ken Ba mctamba and John Thompson like
(29:34):
they were, and then you had Alan Iverson, I mean
you just had this squad that we paid attention to.
On a whole other level, Jalen Brunson was the guy
that was the also ran when Lucas showed up in Dallas.
He's short with you know the big back porch, right,
He's not the quick guy, he's not lanky.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
He's not the prototypical star.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Of the NBA. Oh, and he's a colossal smart asset
the microphone, so he's very embraceable, and he's got that
workmanlike thing that wins.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
He's not something.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Feet right like that that usually disqualified center.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
What we talk greatest of all time? What do we do?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
We don't talk about Koreean and Wilt. They get just
put off from their own corner. And you know it's like, ah, whatever,
they were seven feet tall, Like, let's talk about these guys.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Jalen Brunson is that guy on a whole other level.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Telling you Brunson is now the greatest Nick of all time?
Any Nick fan, that's really sad. I know it's sad.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Even talk about car Mellow and it's okay's.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Better than Carmelo ad Jalen, But I mean, I'm just
saying you you just went right past it. We got
to insane.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Any reference, he's on the lie that game can be there, Jaliheim,
the only title Mellow can be there.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Jalen Brunson's greater.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's a metal stand. I mean, actually is Mellow fourth?
This is the fourth?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Probably maybe fourth?
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's a really sad mount Rushmore. But hell, I'm telling
you get you there. Brunson is now the greatest nick ever.
And it's crazy and it's a little sad, but it's true.
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world sports with someone who's been called the Patrick Ewing
of Fox Sports Radio. She makes a lot of money
because she spends a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's manzi milagya.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
I don't know if I make a lot of money,
but I definitely spend a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
That is absolutely accurate. Thank you, Poppy Chulo. Yep, thank
you Poppy. Though from letting that be a thing.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Uh, the total domination as you guys have been talking
about between the Knicks and the Celtics. Here's a little
of what Jaylen Brown had to say after the loss.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Things didn't go our way this year and it's unfortunate,
but you know, we hold our head up regardless losing
to the Knicks. You know, it feels like death. But
I was always taught that there's after there's life after death,
so we'll get ready for whatever's next. Whatever that was dark,
I'll be ready.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Wow, that was really dark.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well it was maybe they'd played better in the third quarter.
I mean, what's clearly he found Jesus what I told
you at the end of the Celtics era might be here.
Is that dark in the locker room already?
Speaker 9 (32:02):
Well?
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Life after death, my goodness, so.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Good carrying the dead through the streets exactly. I'm pretty
biggest Smalls album.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Nuggets Ford Aaron Gordon has been diagnosed with the left
hamstring hamstring strings, so his status isn't out for Game seven.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Against the Thunder, which is on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Another Game seven will be happening on Sunday, but this
time it's gonna be on the ice because the Maple
Leaves kept their season alive, shutting out the Panthers to zero.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
In baseball, everyone's getting shut out right now. The Giants
are shutting.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
Out the A's four zero, Wolmer Flora's with the grand
slam AT's the bottom of the fifth inning in San Francisco.
The Mariners are shutting out the Padres in San Diego
five zero, top of the eighth inning. The Diamondbacks are
shutting out the Rockies at home five zero, top of
the seventh inning, and the Angels were shutting out the Dodgers,
but the Dodgers on the scoreboard. Angels are still up
for to one bottom of the fifth inning.
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Tigers are the first team to reach thirty one.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Wait, didn't the Nick shut out the Celtics.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
To night pretty much pretty much so pretty much so
practically Yeah, yeah, Tigers of the Pristine to reach thirty wins.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
They held on to defeat the Blue Jays five to four.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
The Braves top the Red Sox four to two, and
the Astro snapped the Rangers six game winning streak with
the six to three win.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
Twins.
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Keep on rolling, they keep on winning. They've won twelve.
They shut out the Brewers three zero. Back to you, guys, thanks.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
A bunch of mon Yes, Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, the
biggest lesson that we have learned about the NBA season
to this point, we'll tell you, and it's gonna shock you.
It's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You remember the Knicks being relegated to that small court
in the NBA Finals. You know, I actually was working
at ESPN and I was fonting the font not the
fun and I was fonting like the the eleven o'clock
Sports Center, I want to say, which is when you're
in charge of all the graphics. And it was insane
(34:16):
because I'm watching Game six of the of the NBA Final,
which the Knicks won, and it's a dual split screen
of their chasing OJ and the Knicks on the other screen,
and I'm like, oh my goodness, I can't get past this. Right,
And now, now, Knicks nostalgia is going to be around
for the next four days, the Knicks and the conference
finals for the first time in twenty five years. It's
already everywhere any NBA channel you look on. Here's the
(34:37):
last time the Knicks were in the finals back in
nineteen ninety nine. Here's a history of the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
And the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Right, So you're gonna get Nicks nostalgia for the next
few days. Again, it's the nineties, but I vividly remember
in the I still was crazy the Knicks win Game six, right,
But obviously everybody watched the and the OJ chase and
stuttering John from Howard Stern Show was at the Knicks game.
They went to ask questions when he would go ask questions,
and he asked Pat Riley in the post game, he's called.
(35:04):
He calls me, Pat, do you think if oj cut
to his left he would.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Have gone away?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
And and Pack goes, what, let me talk?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
And here the Pierre go go get him out, get
him out.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Get him out?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Pack goes, what is he? What does he talk like?
Pat had no idea, like, what are we talking?
Speaker 2 (35:18):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
The cut left? Did he get away?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But wow, the Knicker in the East Finals, it's Nicks,
Pacers t Wolves, and the winner of tomorrow's game between
the Thunder and the Nuggets will pick that game and
give you a preview of it coming up in a bit.
Right now, this moment in time, the biggest lesson, the
biggest thinking we can learn from this season in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Okay, And if this doesn't tell you nothing does? Are
we just talking on court or.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
On court?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Everything else on court.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
On court, on court, on on camera, on court, The
NBA regular season is irrelevant. If this should be the
season to tell you that what happens the first eighty
two games is absolutely irrelevant because we're seeing lower seeds
come in and win big rounds in the NBA playoffs
(36:18):
when you don't normally we didn't use to normally see that.
We're seeing big seeds go out in the second round
that were incredibly dominant from the end of October all
the way until two weeks ago. The three coming into
the playoffs. Right, we talked about this a lot. The
three best teams in the NBA a regular season and
they're far away better than everybody else, The Calves, the Celtics,
(36:39):
and the Thunder, three best teams in the NBA, and
then the next level of contenders. And we said, hey,
it's the Knicks and the Nuggets and the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Right, that was enough.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
But those three teams were so far ahead, and I
remember even saying, it's if we're talking about an NBA
Finals that's not Thunder Celtics or Thunder Calves. Something is wrong.
And that could still happen under a home for Game
seven against against the Nuggets tomorrow. But think about this now,
the three best teams in the NBA. The Cavaliers don't
(37:08):
get out of the second round, the Celtics don't get
out of the second round, and the thunder or one
game away from potentially not getting out of the second round. Like,
that's how irrelevant the regular season is. Just get in,
Just get into the playing round. And this is why
it goes back to what I say, Hey, if you
can make a move at the deadline and improve your team,
it doesn't matter if you're an eight seed or a
(37:30):
seventh seed, you can still get out. It doesn't matter
if you're a sixth seed. Go for it. Because the
playoffs change, injuries happen, bad matchups happen. All of these
things have happened.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
The Celtics suddenly turned into a bad matchup for the
Knicks because defensively and physically, the Knicks were absolutely dominant
over the Celtics. The injuries hit the Cavaliers, they couldn't
get past the first part of the playoffs, and the
Pacers proved, hey, we're pretty good too. Right now, you
look at the Western Conference, the Tea Wolves said, we
don't care about you guys. Getting Luca doesn't matter what
you did in the regular season, and it was a clinic.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
The regular season is irrelevant if you think you can
improve your team go for it. Go for it, because
when the playoffs start, everything is different. Now do the real, real,
real bottom feeders the teams, Hey, do we go crazy
to try to get into the playing round? Okay, chances
are you're not getting at the bottom of the playing
round is really really low. But if you're like a
(38:23):
A anywhere from five through eight or five through nine seed,
and yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Go for it because you don't know what can happen.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, you talk about health, which is always number one
going on many a year here in the NBA, But
for a long time it's been the question in the
regular season where we used to have that whiteboard when
we were in the studio down the hall where it'd
be like, all right, who's gonna win this year?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
And we come up with the three names.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
All right, there's the Warriors, there's the Cavaliers, and then
you'd pick whoever was the second and was gonna challenge, saying, ah,
can the Warriors really keep going? And then it was
all right, who else in the east? Some then Cavaliers
have by somebody go ahead into it. So you'd put
another team there unwillingly, but you'd get to it. But
the last few years we've asked a lot, what's the
(39:09):
motivation to try to grind for eighty two games? You're
looking at it straight through the lens of a Knicks
fan who watched a squad that was really good, not deep,
but very good. In terms of your one through six
last year?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
They fell like flies and you can immediately attribute it
to Yeah, you could say a lot of time on
the court together is great. Yeah, a lot of time
on the court also begets the injuries, and that's what
you fell to time and time again. So you're trying
to find that balance. But to your point, you just
need to be healthy. Come April fifteenth, tell on tax Day,
pay your tax. Isn't going to the playoffs the regular season.
(39:47):
This season should tell you how irrelevant the regular season
is in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Jason and Mike coming up next way.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Don't you hear what one guy who had to walk
to work last week had to say.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Following the Knicks eliminating the Celtics. It's
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