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August 14, 2025 • 41 mins

Jason and Mike still cant figure out what Jerry Jones has planned for the Cowboys this year, and our long time favorite guest Jason Cole joins the guys!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
I hate baseball. I've never liked baseball never. I mean him,
I've never been a fan. I've been lying. I've been
lying to you for the and everybody for the most
of my life.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I hate based pretty good master thespian work.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I hate it. It's been nuts. This is what's called
the long con in sports.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I hate the hell of a conu.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
So, as you know, the Mets rup six nothing fourth thing.
It's going to be a laugh for tonight. Right, They've
turned things around. Everything is okay, No, no, No. Nine
runs in the top of the fifth inning for the Brave,
including a grand slam by Michael Harris. Now the Braves
who stink this year are gonna walk away going ah.
We're ending the Mets season. Basses loaded last inning for
the Mets.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Pete A.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Lonzo gets thrown out at home plate trying to score
on a base hit. This just now. Juan Sota, with
a full count and two on, swings at ball four
three times before swinging at ball four again and striking
out an end in the inning. I hate baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, I mean to be fair. I mean, you did
come back and get a scoreless fifth for the Braves.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Hey, that's great. Yeah, we didn't allow nine night inning.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, I mean, look, guys, biggest superstars in the game
run into outs on the base paths, made show. Hey
did it the other day deciding he wanted to steal third.
Dave Roberts not happy. And then today your guy, Pete
Alonzo wants to be a superhuman. He wants to get
all those runs back. He thought he counted for three
if he took that extra base.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's j Yeah, what do you got for Usburg? What
sucks more this month? Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Mets, the Mets, the Mets, the Mets, the Mets, the
Mets or Crow Armstrong. Oh, the Mets. But it's close.
You know he's not no, no, no, he's not been good.
He's not not.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
So at least I have that okay, all right, you know,
you know he peaked. He peaked in the middle of July.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think he's got more strikeouts this month than has
all seasons.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, No, it's not been great. Not great, Bob great.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I want to go back to the long con of it.
I mean, that is method acting that is not good
for your health. No, I mean, but that's twenty year conduct, like,
I mean that leads you down to bad twenty late
night burgers and and fries and and and all sorts
of like it's.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
A bad thing. No, that's like I think that.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I think that was what you often.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think one of Hitchcock's Oh, by the way, happy birthday,
Alfred Hitchcock, hundred and twenty six today, he would be
h I'm pretty sure. One of Hitchcock's movies, lesser known movies,
was about a guy who committed a crime, stole a
lot of money, and he went to prison for like
twenty years, but they never recovered all or he did
something with the money and when he got out he

(03:05):
was still a young guy and he was rich because
he lived off the interest of the money that he took,
like the like, they got some of the money back,
but he was able to put stuff in whatever accounts
and he was rich. So he went to prison for
twenty years to come out and be rich. And I
kind of feel like that's the deal. I've been with
the Mets, Like I've been in prison for twenty years.
I'm expecting to get rich at some point. A. No,
there's no rich, there's just oh, sorry, you're you're in

(03:26):
another year. You're like Red when he goes for parole
and shawshek yeah, sorry, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied.
Now that's what he got.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Goes for me, Mike, Well, and now you're waiting for
that big payoff? Will it ever come? Twenty fifteen? And
he got taunted blood blah yeah, wait, I'm not pulling
this up. What is it Alfred Hitchcock Presents? Is it
a something like it was? Lesser known movies?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
He did that?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, this is from a the TV show?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Oh, the TV show? Okay, Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Henry Taylor visits the town of Kirkland. Where how about
that Kirkland, Kirkland, Oregon orl in Washington?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, very good? At Costco Kirksgo.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Bank, employee Arnold and Matthias had been convicted of stealing
two hundred thousand dollars from the bank where you work.
None of the money had been found, and he maintained
his innocence, and then it goes from there.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
There we go. Okay, so I knew that's what it was,
all right? Good? So I knew that. Yeah, there you
go go to prison for a long time. No, be
rich when I get out. I'm rich when I get out.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
How about that? I need to be rich together? What
it seems they got a letter of credits.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's the long con. That's the twenty some ideas where
I've said I've liked baseball. No on, my payoff's going
to be at the end. No, no payoff, long con.
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You can't wait to see what kind of colors come
off of those clothes when you burn them, now that
you've forsaken them.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Dude, I'm really I can't. I can't wear Mets. I can't.
I can't wear Mets g I'm wearing all Jet Skear
now man jet Skar, gearing up for the serious football
like I can't. I'm too it's too embarrassing. I can't
after this, just leave all your Mets gear at the
back door. I feel like everybody. I feel like everybody
I walk by looks at me and they knows exactly
what's going on with the Mets and how bad they are.
Like they know, I see that. I know, I know

(05:00):
exactly what kind of day he's having. Meanwhile, most of
the people are like, yeah, what I'm not even noticing.
But I feel self conscious about it. I can't. I
can't wear Mets gear. I can't think.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I mean, I wear my white Sox gear, my Northwestern gear.
What am I gonna do?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
You wear it proudly and you get a little bit
of love. Wow, it's been a tough run. I'm like yeah.
And then that run twenty years ago it was glorious
and they said, didn't the Astros win that? No, just
because he has he had told you that doesn't mean
it's right.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Uh So again, we'll continue to update you on baseball
depending how the night goes. If not, there will be
no baseball. There will be no updates from Monci Bolomio.
She can go home early. Uh Now, this big story
out of the NFL today, and it's a great positive
story and it's something that I can't believe. This was
kept a secret for so long. Now Netflix has a
big documentary on the Dallas Cowboys going on right now.

(05:53):
America's Team The Gambler and His Cowboys now at debuts
next week, and you're getting a little bit of a
teaser stuff coming out for it.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Wow. And we found out today that in the fifth episode,
right Souse, you get people to watch you. You see in
the fifth episode, Jerry Jones talks about undergoing cancer treatments
in Houston and said that he was dealing with stage
four melanoma for since twenty ten and an experimental trial
drug saved his life.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I was saved by a fabulous treatment and great doctors
in a real miracle drug called PD one. I went
into trials for that PD one and it's been one
of the great medicines. I now have no tumors. He
was diagnosed in June twenty ten. Treatment soon thereafter. He
has since had two lung surgeries, two lymph node surgeries. Now.
Stage four melanoma is a skin cancer that's metastasized other

(06:44):
parts of the body. So all of a sudden, like whoa,
this was something that he started dealing with in twenty ten,
and none of us knew it, right. So the first
thing I want to say is, Jerry Jones is one
of the most public people in the world. Right, we
knew about the stuff going on with the woman who
was suing him, say I say, I'm your daughter, and
all this negotiation happening like that couldn't be kept, you know,

(07:04):
kept quiet forever. Even that gets out. This is Jerry
Jones doing experimental drug crows and people know, and he
kept this a secret and nobody found out for ten years.
I don't know how you do that. I don't know
how a public figure like Jerry Jones, with this stuff
happening and everything that his daily life is all over

(07:25):
the news every single day, how we didn't know, how
no one said anything, how there was no one tipped off,
and how he kept it private and said I'm not
gonna tell anybody about this. That to me, when I
saw this, I said, there's no way. Since twenty ten,
you're talking about fifteen years now. He's been in remission
for the last years. But this story, now, it's been
a secret for fifteen years until he decided to talk

(07:48):
about it on the Netflix special, and likely because he's
got no more tumors and he's been cancer free for
a while. But I don't know how you keep something
like that being that public A person like I get.
Everybody deals with bad news and differently, and some people
you want to fight your battles privately, and some people
want to fight him publicly. It depends on the support
you need. But this guy's is the most public of

(08:10):
public figures in the NFL. Every day, the guy is news.
There's people that follow him around everywhere he goes. And
we still didn't know about this for fifteen years. That
blows me away.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah again, you know, it owes to the size and
scope of what we've had with Jerry Jones, where it's
normally an open book, or so it seems, right getting
into these war of words today, Michaeh Parson's response asking
about contract, I'm keeping my mouth shut. So he's taking
a different tact. But for Jerry, it's been taking credit.

(08:43):
Right at the premiere of this thing, you had EMMITTT.
Smith and everybody being asked about you know, Jerry's real
role and stuff, and they all took their shots, you know,
veiled a little bit and restrained, but still, you know,
it's been a back and forth, and so to keep
this under wraps. You know, you immediately go and fast
yourself your best tinfoil hat and start getting into discussions

(09:04):
of did he have to keep it quiet? Like what
are we talking about? Like I started looking up what
PD one therapy is. It's called quote programs sell death one.
There you go, and you start going into what the
active drugs are nivola, loomab, pembrolis, zoomab, I mean, and

(09:24):
all these other advanced names that are just difficult to pronounce.
And you start reading what the each of those ingredients
into the cocktails and the active drugs that we're going
into a system. It's it's really an amazing thing. And
we talk about it all the time, right the development
of drugs and the pharmaceutical world and everything that's rolling on.

(09:46):
How much do we not know? You're right, in terms
of advancements, how many people you know, with means have
the opportunity, Hey, you know, last ditch effort. Maybe this works,
maybe it doesn't. You give it a try. I mean,
you know, you love how we talked about House all
the times, Like, well, there was this thing I saw
at the you know, page one eighty two of this
journal that this guy theorized, yeah, let's try that.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, And it feels like sometimes this is like a
case where we get down to that type of type
of decision making of hey, it's dire, we need to
do this, and he decided to keep this one private
and until this maybe it's something that's coming closer to
market in terms of an accessibility thing as well as
a treatment for everyone, and that it's no longer in

(10:33):
those first trials or second trials. But yeah, it's it's
just a curious story with Jerry Jones again that we
normally know everything he does.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, and look and the best part of this is
you kind of hooked onto it there a little bit.
Is that That's why this is such a great story
because Jerry Jones talked about the drug, talked about what
it is, talked about what he did, and he gave
voice and he gave pictures to something that he talked
about saved his life. Right, Like, we need to know
more about stuff like this. We need to know more

(11:05):
about drugs that people are taking that work. Now, not
that all drugs work for everybody, but what do I
always say, medicine will save you?

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
The advancements we make all the time in medicine, and
I just I just can't get over the last few
years it's been Oh, medicine is not medicine is medicine.
Science is science. They're there, they're extending lives. Science has
been extending lives for years as long as they can
do it. We need to know more about stuff like
this because this because putting faces on this and talking
about it, it helps immensely when you put medical cures

(11:33):
front and center and putting them in the conversation. Okay,
so anyway, this is something that might help me. I
want to know what's Magic Johnson been doing for the
better part of the last thirties, Like this is like,
well he's been doing that too, yes, but like he's
someone that when when he got the HIV diagnosed, it was,
oh my god, Magic Johnson's gonna die in a couple
of years. Wow is this gonna And here he is
and he's been thriving and he's got a normal life.

(11:54):
Now obviously he has a lot of money. He has
access to the top drugs. But look, but what are
they what why aren't we talking? We need to talk
about stuff like this more. I want to know what
are you doing because who knows when when people need
it coming up. Hey, let's talk about this, because there's
so much in the in the in the medical world
that is just so daunting for people to know because

(12:17):
a lot of it is, you know, a lot of
it's inside baseball. I don't understand what this understanding what
the drug is. I don't get what it does here.
I don't get you know, when you're talking about any
kind of trials that's going on. But the more information
that's out there about it, the more comfortable people are
going to be searching for cure or searching for something.
Maybe this will help me. I didn't know about this.
Oh wait a minute, I have skin cancer and I hey,

(12:38):
this thing that Jerry Jones, I didn't know about that.
Or hey, maybe with Jerry Jones talking about this, as
you said, this could be something that becomes more available
and this might be able to save my life, or
my dad's life, or my kid's life or someone else.
But just just talking about things like this, it's why
I'm so glad he talked about it and mentioned the
drug and said, yeah, this is what I did and
it saved my life. This is going to do nothing

(12:58):
but help and help people and help and when when
you put a picture on something, it becomes more real
and it becomes easier to talk about and easier to
be part of than everyday conversation. And yes, drugs are
still going to be expensive, but you never know where
things can go when the public hits on something and
there's a conversation to be had. Hey, guess what, things

(13:20):
can get a little bit better. Right, That's why, what's
why I always come back to Medicine will save you.
Medicine will save you. But this needs to continue to
be part of the daily conversation. And that was the
best part of it for me was that Jerry Jones
talked about it. Didn't say, hey, I took an experimental drug.
It was great and now I'm cancer free. Everything is fine. No,
he talked about the drug, gave the name of it,
and whenever you read about this, it's as you as
you just mentioned. It talks about the properties in it

(13:42):
and what it means. Like this is this is one
of the best things you could possibly have come out
of this story.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
You start doing all the deep dives, right. Schotteneimer was
talking about his own thyroid issues he had when he
was twenty eight, right, and cancer has affected everybody. You know,
we've talked about, you know, when they do the the
tributes as part of the Stand Up to Cancer part
of the All Star Game on Fox every year, and
you see some names. A lot of times you and

(14:09):
I look at each other because there are lot of
names of people that we've known, we've talked to, that
have been part of our world and business. We've all
dealt with it in families, maybe yourself as you're out
there listening, you know, around the globe, we appreciate you,
We're with you. But when you have a story like this,
it becomes the Okay, what is it? I want to
dig a little bit deeper, Not that you're not doing

(14:31):
that a little bit in ferreting, you know, and digging
down into the details. But he talks about the treatment.
What do you immediately do Let's google that, Let's see
what the component parts are of this. Not that I'm
suddenly going to be in a lab with a bunch
of test tubes or whatever. But you want to have
some knowledge, right, You want to know what's out there.
And look, hope is sometimes the dangerous thing that we

(14:52):
talk about a lot. But you know, also the best
of things. And this is one where you're like, Okay,
whatever Jerry got that has treated him and now we
get more jerryisms because of it. We all won.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I mean it's awesome, awesome talking about it, awesome
to bring this to light. This is it's a great
story today and a great story for people to hear,
and it provides hope for a lot of people. Exit.
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Speaker 2 (16:44):
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Speaker 1 (16:48):
Five second Dance Party. Ham I gonna get through. Ham
I gonna get through this Mets game because we stink.
We gave up eleven runs. Now we had a six
nothing lead. Now that's over. I really really hate baseball. Yes,

(17:09):
I hate it.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
He am.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I gonna get through to the Jets season.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Don't be sad, it's it's over. Be glad it happened.
You had a six nothing.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I'm not glad it happened at all.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I didn't score the Jason Smith.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Show with my best friend Mike KRMT. Yeah, a met
six nothing lead is now an eleven sixth deficit in
the seventh. Boy, this is this is gonna put a
fork in the Mets here. This is like the vampire
at the very end when he gets ah, I just
put that steak in his heart and he just melts.
That's what happened. You just wait for the Jets to suck. Hey, hey, hey,
I'm riding the fast lane right now because Justin Fields

(17:44):
and the Jets look really good and I love Aaron Glenn.
Let's see you for our next guest agrees with us
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(18:07):
how are you?

Speaker 5 (18:09):
How am I going to get for? It? Really is
like a New York but sports theme song.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Isn't it is?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
But for one week the Jets were great in all
facets of the game. They were great. Justin fields was great,
the running game was great, the defense was great. This
may be as good as it gets.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
There's no maybe about it. Yes, this is as good
as it gets. When when the other team doesn't game
plan or design a defense for Justin Gims, Yeah, he
can look pretty good. That's definitely true. Hey, he could
even be very good, maybe even Hall of famish if

(18:58):
you don't have a if you don't game plan against him. However,
once you actually game plans, things change. That's how football works.
That's strange how that happens.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, that's why I said this is as good as
it's going to get. I'm okay with it.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Well, this is this is like my friends who it
was friends who were Giants fans. And he was sending
out texts Jackson Dart looking so great. I look stop
to stop, and I immediately dug out the headline of
Daniel Jones's first, uh first exhibition games, and it's like

(19:40):
Daniel Jones looks sharp for giants and debut. Yeah, those
other things go. The rookie quarterback always looks sharp when
he's playing against teams that don't actually play defense.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
So much for that shoot or Sanders question, I was
going to ask.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
But that's how that's that's how this always works. It's
really that's how it works.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
No, but I'm telling you now, I'm going to make
you even happier than you were last week. I have
to re think my bold prediction that they're going to
start all four quarterbacks this year. They're now going to
start five quarterbacks this year because.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
We talked about that five.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well, but now they're getting five. We said four, but
now we got five. We got five.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Last week, they have last week, and I said, is
far up to five?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
But now it's clearly going to be five. Sanders is hurt,
Picking is hurt. Yeah, now it's going to be five.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
I have very little doubt of that because it's the Browns,
and and it doesn't really matter how many games they play,
Like Dick has only played five games, and they would
play five from quarterbacks, and then.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
It would be Derek Anderson twice. No, I see exactly
how it's going to work for you.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Derek.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
That two thousand and seven season with him and Braylon
Edwards was magical for fantasy Well it.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Really actually it really was. And you forget that jo
Jo Vicious was really really good that year too, Like
he was maybe the best third down receiver in the
league that year. I think he trought like forty passes
on third down that year. He's really really good. The
whole offense just clicked for a little while, like all

(21:29):
of a sudden, we were like, oh, Romeo Cronelton really
be a great head coach. And I was like, no,
not really, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
No, no, You'll see time will bear me out on it.
It'll be fine, He'll yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Jason Cole with us here a Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith,
Mike Carmon, All right now, I want this is what
this is, Believe it or not. There is a question
I wanted to ask you since week one of the preseason. Okay,
all right, we watched we watched Cam Little kick a
seven yard field goal in the preseason right for Jacksonville,
which is like, well, this is not just sixty five

(22:06):
sixty six. This is seventy. And I want to say,
if I said to you, if you what, what do
you think is the absolute longest any kicker, whoever you
think is the best kicker in the NFL? What's the
longest field goal you can see somebody making? Now that
we've seen somebody in the preseason, it went from.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Seventy Well in a live situation, live situation.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well that was a live situation, was the preseason, but
it was a live.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Well yeah, yeah, I mean I just didn't know if
you're like saying I was, if we just like had
a like field goal contest.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Noally, no, of.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Course I don't care about that. That's what the Pro
Bowl can do that they can do that.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
No, I mean really well, and we obviously got made it,
so somebody's going to be willing to try it, you know,
depending on the kicker. But there are some factors that
go with it, and that is, are you playing indoors?
Are you playing in a warm weather stadium and you're
going to tempties the kicks unless a you're in a
desperation situation where you're try and tie the game on

(23:07):
a last play and you think you think you have
a kicker can do it, or it's the last play
of a first half and you're going to give it
a shot. But even then it's dangerous because I was
at the game between the Giants and the Bears where
Tom Kauflin and one of the rare mistakes that Tom

(23:29):
Coughlin made from a strategic standpoint, try a really long
feeling a la. I remember it was like sixty something
yards and that's the one that Devin Hester returned for
one hundred and eight yards famously, And you know, I
think Ernie, Ernie, of course he lost his mind because
it's like, why would you do that here in the

(23:50):
wind and all those other things. So, I mean, it
really conditions happy perfect. So you end up with only
like maybe course of the season a dozen situations where
this can happen. And again, what's your weather, like, are
you playing indoors? I mean you can't, you really can't

(24:10):
do it once the weather starts to turn in late
October November, because it's the ball is just not going
to travel. So you know, I think you got probably, yeah,
you have maybe five or six realistic opportunities for it
in a given season where somebody might try it. And

(24:31):
even then you better have a really good, really good
unit for coverage because if that ball is short, it's
going to come back out because that guy's going to
get ahead of team and he's going to be out
to about the twenty five or thirty yard in a
hurry and on top of your coverage team.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
So since you referenced Chicago, let's let's go there. What
do you make of all the noise surrounding Caleb Williams
Ben Johnson? We're watching net videos and everything else and
getting that extrapolated out upon you know, for Johnson, it's.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
All going to happen. It's all happening. It's happening right now.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
So over under eight and a half.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Wins, no number of times Caleb Williams is benched, that's
that's the that's.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
The I was asking wins or touchdowns?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Wow, number of former Bear stars who call for Caleb
Williams to be benched this year eight and a half?
What's the over over way? Well, but you have to
find legend can just be someone who played for the team.
It's got to be.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Different amongst the fans of a team. Right, there's guys
that you called that The rest of the world laughs.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
At we're talking about just former quarterbacks of the Bears,
then eight and a half is a good number total
total former players because Olin Cruz, well, Owen Cruise is
going to come out in the favor I think his
own group. I remember I got into a semi argument
with Ollenkrutz about who was that that draft that they

(26:08):
that they drafted instead of Mahomes. What was it Trubisky? Yeah, yeah,
when Travisky. You know, Trivisky had like rare games where
he was like twenty three at thirty five and threw
a couple of balls me into the outside that actually
looked decent, and I was like, Okay, he had a

(26:29):
decent game, but he's still not very good. And Owen
Krutz just came right after and we go, oh, what
do you know and what do you use? It's like
not very good, Like you have to look at it realistically.
And so Crutz was a great defender in that case.
So I guess he's the guy who's always going to
stick up for what the Bears do. But but I

(26:49):
could find like.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I could find like Steve Fuller getting very upset and god,
there's one Bear's legend, Steve Fuller Okay, got him.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah, see, I think Fuller leads the pack. I mean
to get I think eight and a half on quarterbacks alone.
Good numbers. It's really good number I got. But I
definitely I definitely go over. I definitely go over.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Now, how do I get Cruits into the Hall of
Fame while we're while we're on him?

Speaker 5 (27:15):
That's that's not gonna happen, like all creage. But yeah,
it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Just like that. Just dismissed me.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
The way the new rules are, it's gonna be so
hard to get more than three or four guys in
the Hall of Fame in a given year, which, well.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
You just have to have a very good career and
you get in the Hall of Fame. You don't need
to be great, you just to be very good.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Did you do you know what the do we discuss
the new rules yet? No?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
And what did I tell you? You have to be well?

Speaker 3 (27:48):
About?

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Sure? They said, hey, they have to be at least
very good and then they're eligible. Okay, great, that's the
new rule.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
No, no, this is actually a realistic thing, and it's
a real problem because a lot of guys should do
to get to get in are you going to have
a hard time. We're going to have a real backlog
of players here in three or four years, where you're
going to go that guy really actually does deserve to
get in, but can't get in because what they did
is instead of us going from we have to go

(28:16):
from the you have the group of fifteen that you
would argue about, and we cut that group down from
fifteen to ten, and then you would cut them from
ten to five, and it was kind of became a
rubber stamp of those five we're going to get in, right.
And that went on for a few years, and then
there was a bunch of whining and complaining, especially after
the Blue Ribbon year that they put all the seniors in,

(28:39):
which that was a massive mistake because that caused the
whole Hall of very good argument when we were letting
in Harold Carmichael and the Drew Pearson's of the world.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Carmichael, I think I know what happened there is he
was supposed to be in the Tall of Fame and
they actually put it.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Yeah. Yeah, that was welcome to the layup drill for stuff.
So yeah, you keep going with the radio layup drills. Okay,
but the overreaction to that was to do this where
we instead of cutting down from ten to five, we
come from we cut down from ten to seven and

(29:20):
then the seven. In order to get to gain entry,
you have to get at least eighty percent. Well, there's
fifty voters. There's two hundred and fifty votes, because each
of us gets to vote for five. If you have
a guy, like a couple of guys who are like
unanimous picks, like a Drew Brees is going to be
pretty much a unanimous pick this year, all of a sudden,

(29:42):
you take out fifty of those votes, you probably take
out another forty five for the next best guy, and
you're not less with a lot of votes for the
last five guys. I think this year we only put
in three under the new system. I think that three
is going to be more typical, and it's going to
be hard to get to four and almost impossible to

(30:04):
get to five. So there's actually going to be guys
because the problem with the process is not the modern
day guys. The problem with the process is the senior
guys that you and I talked about or we talk
about that our borderline, and and those are the guys
who keep getting in where everybody's looking around going that

(30:27):
is in now, like seriously, like like Chuck Calligan, but
like he's not he's not even like a cowboy b
like he's a cowboy c like you know, like and
that that turve along the lines of your Tall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Layup, Jill, layup, Jill. Congratulations for the lamp drop.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Although that also assumed everybody knew who Harold Carmichael was. Yeah, right,
come on a label.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
That's the whole point that Harold Carmichael got in the
Hall of Fame. And I remember Harold Carmichael is a
very good player, and he was very tall, very tall,
He's very He set some record for most games, like
consecutive games with the catch, like I don't know, two
hundred or something like that, you know, notable achievement. But
I always look back at going like I grew up

(31:15):
a Rams fan, and Harold Jackson was better than him.
And Harold Jackson does not belong in the Hall of Fame.
Like Harold Jackson was probably better than Drew Pearson doesn't
belong in the Hall of Fame. That's Drew Pearson had
some moments, no question about it. But like we sort
of softened that line with some of the old time guys.

(31:36):
And when we put in twenty of them in one year,
because we thought that there was some backlog of these
guys have to get in, it's like, no, no, no,
they don't have to get in. They didn't get voted
in during their careers because they weren't quite good enough,
you know, like that's that's how this works. But now
we're punishing guys who, like, I don't know that Tory

(31:58):
Holt or Reggie Wayne are going to get the whole
thing anytime soon, Like they may take those guys another
five or ten years to get in the way that
the system is set up. And Reggie Wayne and Tory
Holt our guys who I think are definitely all the
same guys. They're not. They're way better than Drew Pearson's

(32:19):
and Harold Carmichaels of the world.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two, that is
at Jason Colson.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
That was that was way too serious, man.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
That was that was very serious.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
It was very so much fantastic. Well you did get
a cowboy bees and that was good.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Well that's not bad here. Now we're gonna talk about
Jerry this week.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well we'll get we'll get to Jerry. Were going to
my way there in my way.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Terrible's surviving. He is Jared surviving.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
We're cowboy bees. Any part of that treatment.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thanks a bunch, buddy, you're the best. There he goes
what he's round up. Let's find out what's trending right
now in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Once, what do you go for?

Speaker 7 (33:00):
I got some baseball for you, fellas. Shoeo Tani done
pitching for the Dodgers. He pitched four and a third's inning,
was pulled out. In that fourth inning, gave a five hits,
four earned run Zach netto cut the Angels deficit to one,
and that's when Shoeyo Tani was pulled out. Dodgers are
still up five to four. It is the top of
the sixth inning in Anaheim. Earlier today, the Padres defeated

(33:22):
the Giants eleven to one, so San Diego right now
has a half game lead on the Dodgers. In the
NL West, the Twins are on top of the Yankees
four to one. It's the bottom of the ninth inning
and the Yankees are down to their final out. The
Braves still on top of the Mets eleven to six.
Bottom of the eighth inning. You can catch all the
action on FS one, Michael Harris with a grand slam
four Atlanta. The A's have scored again, but the Razors

(33:44):
still on top, six to two. Top of the seventh inning.
The Cubs beat the Blue Jays four to one, The
Astros top the Red Sox four to one, and the
Orioles snapped the Mariners eight game winning streak thanks to
Jackson Holidays RBI double. Final score was four to three,
So right now Houston has the one game lead on
the Mariners. In the AL West, the Red shut out
the Phillies eight zero, and earlier today it was the

(34:07):
Brewers who won twelve in a row Hottest team in Baseball,
defeating the Pirates twelve to five. In the WNBA. The
Aces just defeated the Liberty eighty three to seventy seven
in the NFL. Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson remains out
of practice due to a hamstring injury. His status is
going to be reevaluated next week. Bill's running back James
Cook agreed to a four year, forty eight million dollar deal.

(34:28):
We're thirty million guaranteed. And he did return to practice today.
And I was part of the one point three million
people that tuned into the New Heights podcast.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I was here, so you know, break it down listening.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
I wasn't listening to the odd couple. I was watching
that here. Okay, here's a little of Taylor Swift and
what she thought football was like.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I thought, I thought that the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's how you played it on the playground growing up.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
So I understand if you hadn't.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Like, no, you don't understand.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I thought it was like Jared Goff is here and.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Josh Allen's here, and they're gonna be like they blow
a whistle and then they they.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Go at each other and they're like and like, who's
gonna win?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
That's actually I would love to see Jared defense. Let's
that's ideas.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
She thought the quarterbacks faced each other, that would be better.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
So she asked Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
One of her first questions was, how did you feel
looking at your brother across the field in that Super
Bowl like you're about to go at it? And he
was like, no, I play offense and he plays offense.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And she's like, I legit thought like that's how she.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
That's why she used that example of those quarterbacks going
after each other.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
How great is that as a first date question to
teach me right?

Speaker 7 (35:43):
Yes, and that was part of the endearing process. I
think that Travis Kelsey says, he's like I had a
teacher everything from scratch, and she was so willing to
learn that.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
That's that's part of how the show started. For for
the In the Heights.

Speaker 7 (35:54):
Podcast podcast that she thought that I did.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I do believe her, but I believe them.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I love them.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Back to you guys, Thanks a bunch, Bonie, Jason saith
Mic Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We'll
have more on the ind the Heights podcast coming up
next hour on the show. But straight ahead, what is
being called the most lopsided joint practice in the history
of the NFL happened today between two teams. No, was
not Cleveland, but that's next right here Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
If you need a friend, don't look to the Mets.
This game's gonna and and.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
They're gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
They had a big.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Lead, lead, lead, lead, lead.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
But then gave up nine in the fourth. Now it's
eleven six, and it's the worst loss of the season
because it's terrible and I hate baseball. One of the
best songs of the eighties. Oh, by the way, very nice,

(37:16):
very nice.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Also a big night over on FS one for that
five hour baseball game. So good for us.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, not often you get the headline the most lobsided
joint NFL practice that anyone has ever seen yet. That's
what was going on today after the Lions and the
Dolphins had a joint practice today ahead of their game
this weekend. Now, Nick Baumgardner, who covers the NFL draft,

(37:44):
works for The Athletic. He said, quote as lobsided the
joint NFL practice as I've ever seen. The Lions just
out everything the Dolphins for two hours out here, and
you see some of the highlights. I'm like, oh why.
As I'm in Ross Saint Brown trending and it's he's
absolutely cooking Hi opposite him the entire day, I'm like,

(38:05):
oh my goodness, it was so awful. I believe what
did I read that the Dolphins had like twenty plays
in the red zone and scored, finally scored on the
last play, and it was the backups that scored. Like
you get twenty plays inside the red zone and they
couldn't score, and the Lions just did whatever the hell
they wanted to. Now look, obviously, look it's the preseason.

(38:27):
We see it happen, and you know, teams have these
practices now and again, and who knows who's showing what
and who's not. But I'll tell you what, man, this
is it just keeps getting worse for the Dolphins. That's
what I can't get over. I have never seen a
team go from up and coming to blow it up
faster than this Dolphins team a year ago at this time,
up and coming. Here we go Dolphins. Now it's they

(38:49):
got to blow it up. And they may trade Tyreek Hill.
They may trade at some point to a tongue of
I LO and maybe this is it for Mike McDaniel.
Like in a year they went from up and coming.
Here they are. The speed they have on this team,
the offense, Mike McDaniel's a genius. To now, hey, they're
absolutely terrible and will probably finish last in the AFC East.
When I see all the experts saying hey, yeah, no, no, no, no,

(39:11):
Dolphins will finish last. Really not the Jets now, no, no, no,
the Jets defense is really good. No no, no, Like, wow,
this is how fast the Dolphins have gone from they
could take over the lead to now they're gonna blow
it up and start over from not not even from
top of the mountain, Mike Harmon, not from top of
the mountain where hey, they're really good. But they got
old right away and all of a sudden, Hey, they
go from the super Bowl to five and twelve. No,

(39:33):
this is they're up and coming to they have to
build rebuild again. That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, this is like you're in one of the obstacles
on American Ninja Warrior or something. And then they go, okay, apply,
they're starting to move a little too easily. Let the
oil starts slicking down. Let's see if they can keep
climbing that mountain. And that's where they are. They're at
least we're running in place. They're slipping down and it's
miserable and it would be fine if this was just
an outlier of Wow, it's been an okay camp and

(40:01):
it's just a bad day. Lions linebacker Grant Stewart. I'm
going into this joint practice session. I don't know if
they're ready. I'm gonna keep it a stack. Joint practice
against that team twice when I was I don't know
if they practice how we practice, so like it really
went after it saying, hey, here we go. So it's

(40:21):
just been one, you know, to your term, you know,
bad headline after the next for McDaniel, they've had a
bunch of injuries, and the defensive side of things. You
had the Tua versus Tyreek Hill rededicating himself, convincing guys
he wants to be here after saying I'm out to
finish last year. McDaniel speaking in riddle saying, hey, it's
a great day because you know, we're all gonna die

(40:44):
soon or however you know, I'm paraphrasing what it was,
but he deadpanned and stared through the receiver or through
the reporter soul. Yeah, the receiver of that message of wow, okay, coach,
good day for you. So yeah, him, Greer and so
many others that it might just be a completely different squad.
And this was another example of just futility.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Unreal man, unreal. Well, well we have more on this
joint practice coming up next, as well as another big
story out of the NFL today. Keep it right here,
Jason and Mike. As I watched the Mets go down
to defeat and blow it's all, your first loss of
the season and not saying something Fox
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