May 21, 2024 • 36 mins
Tonight, we roast Jason and his New York Knicks. Reggie Miller trolling Knicks and Knicks fans is so on-brand. Things Jerry Jones is going to do to get all the headlines while the Mavs & Stars are in their conference finals. Plus, ways the Pacers can pull off the upset against the Celtics!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:08):
The way tire buying should be Yes, No, look because
we'll get to you know something else that really pisses
me off about this are But again the something else,
the Knicks. The Knicks don't upset me. They went as
far as they could, Like we talked about this, it's
not the Knicks, it's not the Knicks. But I will
say first, this series turned on that nem Hard three,
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Like that was that this was the Knicks closed were
slowly closing on the Pacers in Game three and a
game that they gave away. They missed some shots, but
it doesn't matter. They were going to get the basketball
back with a chance to win the game at the
end of regulation and Nemhard hits a three that he
still doesn't believe he made it. He's got no memory
of it. He just blacked out. Halliburton can't believe he
(01:52):
made He's crying on the court like it was after
the lightness shot.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
In Thomas Hill was oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean that shot that flipped the series. That he
just keeps missing the shot because it's a thirty one
flame from their worst player who just threw it up
because he had no choice because he had But it
was a good step back shot, like there was.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It wasn't a he threw it over his head or
he was trying to pretend he was curly and he was.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
He was like Woody Harrison, a white man can't jump
when he gets Rosie Perez on on Jeopardy and he
makes the hook shot from the further end.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, can I use a hook shot? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Sure, that was like the shot. I think that had
a better chance of going in than them Hard's three.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
May dude, Mike Breen's been waiting his whole career to
call a shot like that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
No, not.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
If that was a really big he would have given
a double bang. He gave a double bang earlier. He
gave only one bang from you know who got double
bangs was the Knicks. Yeah, okay, I could, I could
go further, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Please do No. It is a roast after all. I mean,
that's it. Come on, find the line.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That was the exact time where that series went from, oh,
now we have life, and now we can go because
everything went was going according to plan for the Mix,
they reeled them in. They were taking over the game,
and the entire time that possession for the Pacers was
oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh yes,
that's what that possession was. It was, Ah, there's there's
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no there. I mean that maybe the Pacers sold their
souls for the next fifty years for nem Hard to
make that shot.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I went, that flipped everything. It flipped everything. By the way,
thanks for that sound drop you just gave us as well.
That's heir. You know, I'm here. Information here, dance and
the gift of the dance will live forever here in
the hallways of Fox Sports Radio. Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And you can you can hate on nem Hart. He
had twenty points in the season crushing season ending who
I think Rick Smith's had twenty points. But I think
Dale Davis had twenty points in that game. And while
that might have been Antonio Davis had twenty points in
that it would have been nice to see them roam
the painting. I think Hope Davis had twenty points in
that yet Hope Davis.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Y Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Now, Look, as far as I said with the Knicks,
I'm fine. The Knicks went as far as they could
with with where they were, the injuries to the team.
I feel great about next year, their future. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But this is what gets Joe Hartenstein signs away because
he can make a lot more money elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, listen, we gotta trade somebody to get to get
somebody good. You know, we got trade somebody from a cabridge.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We got trade. We gotta trade somebody.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I mean, look, look the Nick The Knicks are set
up for a great future because they have their identity
and they've had it. They are Jalen Brunson driven. They
are Villanova driven. Now you have everything you need. You
have the draft picks. You have eight first round picks,
you can deal. You have Julius Randall in his contract.
You have a lot you can do to get that
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other star player that you need. You have Anunobi, you
need one, you need one more start. They're gonna go
star shopping. They will get what they need, either in
free agency or via trade.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm everything. What do you mean who's my in terms
in terms of the players that you want out there?
This is where I get to let you be amateur
GM and her little cat on. Let your train run
around as your your your building empire is which star
player says, you know what I want to go commit
(05:16):
to playing forty minutes a night of Nolan Richardson liked
basketball as of NBA.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That was that was out of necessity because there wasn't
anybody else.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, no, no, no, But it's still the Tom Thibodeau way. Yeah,
is the point I'm trying to trying to make of
which superstar that you want to go into the market
to trade for? Is gonna say, man, not only do
I love I mean I like the culture they have
there and everybody's bought in and it certainly is a team,
and boy, why can't I have that? You know, like
the end of Jerry Maguire, Why don't we have that
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kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
When it's when the Knicks have become cool and how
they've owned the playoffs the last couple of weeks. But
is like, but you have to buy into playing that style.
Anybody wants to go, it will be fine because the
Knicks will be deep enough that you not have to worry.
I'm not gonna play forty minutes if they make it,
like for a guy like Joel Embiid, which obviously not
gonna trade for Joel Embid He's got to say I
want out. I want to go to New York. But
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it's going to be any of these guys, whether it's
it's Karl Anthony Towns. But now the Minnesota Timberwolves run
may change for a little bit, but there's there's so many. Look,
you know, Don Mitchell is dying to get out there.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Come on, come on, I was supposed to be there
a couple of years ago. I want out now.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know that he's a great fit, but there's
there's stars that they can go out and get very easily,
because now the Knicks have become cool again.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They are the cool team.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, I'm ready to go there and I can be
the missing piece and I can see what it's like
to play an MSG. I can see the guys being
treated as heroes.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
This is what I see.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Smith will never talk this. I don't have to worry
about anything on television anymore. Look, it'll happen. It'll just
guys will all kiss my ass. I changed my surname
to James Nix.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Will get what.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
They have a strong head coach, they have a strong leadership.
Now the Knicks have turned their their organization around very quickly,
and now it is they are safe. It's like it's
like you know in The Simpsons when the Springfield Savings
safe from eighteen seventy nine to nineteen ninety six, Like
it's it's you're safe to go to the Knicks. Now
you're safe to put your money in this ira. You're
safe to put the money in this bank. You're safe
(07:12):
to get bounced in the second round. You're safe to invest.
Uh yeah, yeah, Lakers make it.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
To the safe to get bounce in the second round.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
They'd love to make it the second round. Uh, it's safe.
It's safe to go run well because he's maybe.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Got seventeen championships, man, matter what, how many championships?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
How many have I seen ten of them? Who's gone?
I've seen ten of them? Okay, how many in the
last year? When the Knicks are good?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
None?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Zero zero? You have the Knicks and then good they
should have been they Oh he would cook McConnelly everybody.
They shot seventy percent from the.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Flight because they played the next No team in NBA
history had ever done that before.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's the Nixon sold their soul to get to that point,
and the devil came to collect so one by one,
one by one.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
The bell to the waist, sail that you should have
got more. Correction, Jason, I've seen eleven the n season tournament.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, I forgot the is st you did when I'm sorry,
I forgot about the five hundred thousand dollars bonuses.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I forgot about the is T I did. I forgot.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I got five hundred thousand dollars. Buddy, I said, I forgot.
I forgot the is T was that big a thing?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I forgot? You're right, I completely forgot. Well, I mean
Adam Silver wanting to big a deal.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That no, because you can see how big it is
compared to the NBA playoffs. Can't you see how big
it is? Can you see now how huge the is
T is? Hey, there were two champions this year, the
Lakers and you know, the Timberwolves.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We were one of the two champs. What it was.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That's like the n i T winner saying, well it
was us and Yukon. We were the two champions. I
mean it was one. You know, we were the sixty
ninth best team. They were the first best team.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Every day I tell you find your wins. You know what,
today we all woke up. We defeated the grave for
one more day.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Come on, But I'll tell you what what upsets me?
And I can't say this is surprising because this is
more of the category of embarrassing yet expected. After the
series is over, Reggie Miller decides to go on social
media and trol the Knicks with this post on Instagram
when the series changed, and it's got it's it's got
(09:21):
a picture of from the series.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He's a broadcast professional.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
When when when when Josh Hart came over to tell him,
they're saying blank you, Reggie Jalen Brunson, You're a true ballard,
been the best player in these playoffs. But you and
your boys can all heal up together on some beautiful
beaches in kang Kun. Please enjoy God don't like ugly Pacers.
Knicks rivalry lives all right now. Look this is embarrassing
yet expected because the Knicks rivalry is all the Pacers
(09:47):
and Reggie Miller have. That's all they have the history
of the Indiana Pacers. Well, what do they have? Reggie
Miller's eight points and nine seconds and beating the Knicks
in the playoffs. Here they're now four and three all
time against the Knicks in the playoffs. This is all
the pace, just half. No one would even pay any
attention to the Pacers if they didn't have a playoff
rivalry with the Knicks. Where now they've won one more
time than the Knicks. Half Reggie Miller owes his entire
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career to the eight points and nine seconds and the
trolling with Spike Lee and the Knicks fans and the
choke signed.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
He owes his entire career.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's all he's remembered for him and his eighteen points
a game.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's what he's remembered for. Is this all he.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Has is the Knicks. He likes to sit here and
go yeah, yeah, look the Knicks. Yeah yeah, that's all
he has. Without those eight points and nine seconds, it's
a very easy career to go. Oh, Reggie Miller was
a good shooter. Yeah, I remember, he was pretty good.
He owes his entire career to the Knicks and to
that game, because you saw if they lost this series,
it would be how the hell do you lose to
three guys from Villanova? And I mean three, that's the
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three guys they were down to play. Really was two
guys at the end, really was a guy and a
half at the end because Brunson broke his hand and
you know that Josh Hart wasn't healthy. How do you
lose this? It's more embarrassing for the Pacers if they
didn't win with a Knicks guy getting hurt every five minutes,
a horror movie when someone dies every ten minutes, someone
gets hurt, every game and a half, someone.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Goes out for the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
But this is Reggie Miller, right this, it's it's it's
it's something that is again, it's embarrassing yet expected and
and the best part of this is that this is
an NBA team, whether it's Reggie Miller or Tyrese Halliburton,
you know, wearing the Reggie Miller choke signed sweatshirt after
it is over. This is a team that has decided
we're gonna pick a war with the team's fan base,
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not really at war with the Knicks. Knicks and the
Knicks didn't say anything during the playoffs to upset. There
was no war of words between Brunson and Thibodeaux and
Carlisle anybody else. No, they've decided we want to troll
Knicks fans like this is the franchise, not the other team.
Because we had a back and forth and it was
really contentious and all no, no, no, we we decide
we want to get involved with a fan base. This
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is the Pacers. All they have are the Knicks and
their fans because they no one would even know anything
about them if they didn't have it. They would say,
Indiana Patris. They would say, is that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Where Kaitlyn Clark plays no fever? Oh right, Pacers there
the other team right right, right, right right. That's a
five time All Star, all time seven a fifth anniversary squad.
He's a gold medalist, he's a he's an American hero.
Nobody would pay any attention to him if he didn't
have the eight points and nine seconds. Nobody would. Nobody would.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And again look at him dining out on this like, oh,
thank goodness this has come up because I get to
sit here and remind people about my eight points and
nine seconds and this and the choke gesture and spike Lee,
and I boy, this has made my career.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's what it is. It's one moment made his career,
one moment in time.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We all want one moment what he wants, but this,
but this is this is a barrage of eight points
and he had a he had a terrific eighteen point
a game career for a shooter like that, eighteen a game.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I mean, that's that's some kind of career. This is
all people know. Now you're disparaging. No, there's no sarcasm
and he's in the Hall of Fame, isn't he for
as good as he was?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He made the All Star team five times? Once out
of every three years for his career, he made it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
One out of every three years making an All Star team,
it's not bad. One out of three make the team,
don't make the team, don't make the team, make the team,
don't make the team, don't make the team, make the team.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That's pretty good. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer
five times. Pretty good. Well, you after a team five
five times, it's pretty good. But he's a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame if he
didn't have the eight points and nine seconds. He would
not be in the Hall of the career that he
had over No, you have to have five time all
top seventh moment. But in his moment, he's in the
Hall of Tell me one other moment you remember from
his career, him doing this sign after your nich just
lost this. That's twenty years after his career is over
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and it's on televide.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Look what he did.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
He was able to bring it back. Yeah, and he
brought it back and bam. He hasn't played Bank Bay.
He got you again.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's the second moment you know from him, is what
happened ten minutes ago.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
How great is that? That's what I that he was
able to bring it back full circle. He had and
he got it you again. If I can see it
in your face, if you're hatred for Reggie Miller right now,
you'd lightsaber him. If you ain't bad hit in that
the young if you said to Reggie hate you can
do your whole career again.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
What do you want to do? It's I want to
play for the Knicks. I guarantee you. I want to
play for the Knicks. That's what he wants. But instead
he's known as the Knicks killer. But instead I want
to troll Knicks fans about Cancun to this d Yeah,
I'll get great red.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
But they probably sold them. If he got a cut
of all of the T shirts being worn in Indiana,
if in that gesture did hopefully got it, I hope
he had someone for some T shirts and make a
few bucks selling them outside the arena. In the next round.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Again, this is what upsets me, because his whole career
is he owes it to the next he'd be nothing
without the Knicks, be nothing without me. You be nothing
like Mozart and Salieri. Salary said, you'd be nothing without
It's what it is. It's exit out about a Fresco
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Coming up next, Jason and Mike Fox and the horrendous
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We get tons and tons of fan mail every day,
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Speaker 4 (15:40):
Hey, listen to this, Dear Pauli and Tony, your sports
takes the dumbest and most terribly that.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Wait, why open this other one?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
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Wait, try this one.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
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There you go coming up with the stupidest takes us.
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Speaker 3 (16:01):
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeh, Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my
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Com Studios. Game seven, Edmonton Oilers leading the Canucks three nothing,
the birth of the Western Conference Finals on the line. Dallas, Dallas,
big time for Dallas right now, big big time.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
The center of the universe right now? How about that?
Who knew?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm gonna have to do something to get the get
the headlines away. Maybe now, maybe now I will give
Dack that money, maybe I'll sign him, maybe I'll maybe
I'll give back that money.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I need a little bit of heat.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So uh uh you let me know when the right
time is. When when the dontage kid is scoring a lot?
If they're gonna go to the finals. Uh, and then well,
hockey's hockey. But you know still, uh, just let me
know and I'll announce, and you know, maybe I'll give
Dak even more money. That'll be bigger headlines. I was
gonna give him sixty maybou give him seventy five million
a year?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
You joke about it, but I wouldn't doubt if we
get some kind of ramman, whether it's Dak or something.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
What's Jerry Jones to get something from the Cowboys? What
is Jerry Jones gonna do to somehow out do the
Mavericks and the Stars in the Western Conference finals of
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Not to be left behind? Does that make sense? I mean,
as much as we may joke about it, that legitimately
the Cowboys they don't like everybody else, get in the
back of the fish wraps.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I went on a tweet machine and uh, no one's
but the last the time I saw me talking about
Dak was dated like like a week and a half ago. So, uh,
I don't know what to do. Maybe I should I
bring Tony back. Now, bring Tony back to Maybe that's
what I'll do.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Maybe you go and authorize funds to make a full
length movie of your schedule. Yeah, maybe maybe signed Tom
Brady may bring Tom Brady back. That's what we'll do.
Bring Brady back. Something happens, That's what we'll do. Could
be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Maybe maybe maybe have my own roast. Yeah, let somebody
roast me. Oh boy, yeah, Jerry Jones roast.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You don't think enough people did that with the images
that they are on that Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But I'm gonna tell people what they can talk about.
Didn't they just announced they can't talk about. Didn't they
announce a ten part series on you, Jerry? But it's
it's it's uh, I have a final cut. I'll be
I'll be the one standing there with a with a
iPad going. I took that personally and I ruined the
guy in a business deal. Uh so that happened there
and uh yeah, that guy we haven't seen him in
twenty five years. Which episode is the paternity test that
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that doesn't make it into the show.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I'm sorry that shows up in episode seven. I've already
seen the IMDb credits. Listen, you want to know, I'll
give you. I'll give you an advanced report of what
this series is about. I am the fun when I
when I buy the team and we win the Super
Bowl the next year, and then we fast forward to now.
So we're gonna go from nineteen ninety three, uh, or
(18:53):
we really nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety three to nineteen
ninety six. Fire Jimmy Johnson, fast forward to now when
assigned back to that money, give him seventy five million dollars,
that's gonna be and then we'll have a lot in
the years in the middle, well, we'll have a voiceover
that says, hey, cowboys had some successes over the next
two and a half decades.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Now that got seventy five million. That's how the Cowboys
show is gonna go.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
That's pretty funny that he throws up the I am
the Father, because in my timeline, it's been the anniversaries
of all the prequel Star Wars films, right, Phantom Menace, Yeah,
Revenge of the Return or whatever it was, of the
Sith and everything else. So everybody's been doing their twenty year,
twenty five year anniversaries of what I really think about
this film or don't hate this film so much? So
(19:41):
only appropriate while we're talking about Jerry Jones and red
conning all of this stuff and the history thereof that.
We add that to the Star Wars legacy. While we're
at it, When is Star Wars all in?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, when we can sign the McGregor kid to come
back and play the Obi Wan character again? We want
him and uh, I'm gonna make sure we get uh
uh Zach Efron to play Darth Vader and uh you
know i'd put put lifts in his shoes, make him taller. Uh,
and then he'll play him. And uh Tom Hanks will
play Luke and uh what else we gotta get? Oh
we go, oh we got. I gotta get the Evans kid,
(20:15):
uh from the from the Captain America.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He's gonna come.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
He's gonna play Tony Romo and uh and then the
Gosling fellow. Uh, these isn't a lot of shows right now. Uh,
he's gonna play me. So that's uh that that's gonna
be the movie right there.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Ryan got And when you say McGregor kidd, he totally
thinks it's Connor.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I thought you were an Irish guy. What do you do? Hey?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
What is it if I click on this? What does
it mean with these big I? Oh oh oh I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I'm sorry I had to say that. I didn't know that.
Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Uh so, yes, but yeah, what what will Jerry Jones
do to try to use surp attention. I'm telling you
it's gonna happen to be something there. And Doak you
want eighty million, I gotta give you that. I gotta
get something, man. Uh stars are stars are leading the
Mavericks leading the series.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Two zip. Stars are up two zip.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Maybe eighty five million, dec I'm that ninety million, Nat,
You'll sign Dak right, all guaranteed, guaranteed, Danton. But there
is a there's a big football story to get to here,
because we saw in the last twenty four hours the
retirement of running back David Johnson.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah who you say.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That name and some people go, oh, they get wistful
memories of that twenty sixteen where we thought David Johnson
was gonna be the greatest running back in the history
of the world. That means right now, people hold up
there trow from twenty sixteen. I'm gonna dust that off,
go look at the statum that year David Johnson comes
out of nowhere to be the best fantasy running back
in the game. Touchdowns, catches. He did not have a.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Year like that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Again, he had one year and that was it and
he announce his retirement today. He's been in the league
for eight years and that was the year.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That was the year.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And it's still stunning to think because when he had
it's like, Wow, this guy's gonna be one of the
next great running backs in the game, and it just
didn't happen. And you look back, Yeah, it's like twenty
fifteen with Blake Bortles. You had twenty sixteen with David Johnson,
twenty fifteen with Blake Bortles. This is where it is,
David Johnson retiring from the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, we go back to the year of what twenty fifteen,
he comes into the league. It's him, It's Ellington, Stefan Taylor, right,
guy right coming out of college. And then you had
Kerwin Williams. So those are the running backs on the roster.
So workload split average nearly five yards to carry. So
it's like, all right, he was on the sleeper list
for the following years, but nobody could have expected the greatness.
(22:31):
And I think when I saw the news hit today
of him announcing his retirement, going it's announcing his retirement today.
Not I wouldn't thought that would have been a Yeah,
DeVante Parker, another guy had a couple of decent runs
and opportunities and showed up on your fantasy boards. Nothing
like Johnson, but to the point of I thought these
guys were already retired. Yeah, God, David Johnson still in
(22:52):
the league still now, Look he all hadn't played since
twenty twenty two, when he was a member of the Saints.
He also brings memory of Look, we talk about bad
trades in NFL history, and when we talk about bad trades, generally,
it's here's a trade that was made and it didn't
work out because the draft picks that went for this
player turned into this great player, or this guy went
(23:13):
and got hurt and never materialized. And then there's the
bad trade that happened in twenty twenty which, if you,
which is in its own category of worst trade ever
because it shows the anettonus of Bill O'Brien who was
the head coach of the Texans and made a bunch
of eyebrow raising deals and trading away his team's best players. Yeah, good, coach,
just got power when you had the death at the top.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
He trades DeAndre Hopkins, who at that point was one
of the top three receivers in the NFL at worst,
one of the top three receivers in the NFL, trades
into the Cardinals for David Johnson, who again at that
point hadn't had a good year in four years. The
Texans also gave up also got a second round pick,
(23:57):
but traded a fourth round pick away. But mainly this
was here's DeAndre Hopkins for David Johnson, for a guy
who was the best receiver or one top three receiver
in the game, to a guy who was just a
running back who the Cardinals wanted to get rid of
because they had just signed him to a law a
three year, forty million dollar deal they wanted to get
out of. And that's why this is in its own
(24:18):
category of worst trade ever, because bad trades happen. This
was avoidable. This was if you want to trade DeAndre Hopkins,
and Bill O'Brien said at the time, Hey, you know
he wants a big contract. We don't know that we
want to give it to him, which okay, wow, but okay,
I understand that. So you trade the guy away. He's
got another year on his contract. This is where you
(24:38):
trade a guy and you get a couple of draft picks,
or you get something that's gonna help you asset wise. Instead,
you traded for a guy who wasn't any good and
was owed twenty some odd million dollars for the next
two years. How do you The Cardinals must have woke
up that day saying, seriously, they'll do this trade. Let's
(24:59):
do it right, let's do it right now. Before he
talks to somebody and someone says, are you insane? You're
gonna trade for an average, a below average running back
who hasn't been good in four years, and and and
instead we're going to trade away DeAndre Hopkins, where if
we want to, we should be able to get more
for him. That's why this has its its own category
of worse trade ever, because this was this was something
(25:22):
that was so completely avoidable or could have been done
in a better way. If you wanted to move on
from Hopkins. Okay, you don't want to pay him money,
I get it, but wow, to say this is that
we're gonna take back you bailed Arizona out. They would
have given David Johnson away, but it said no, no,
here's our best player and you didn't get anything back
in return. Like this is Bill O'Brien, Like I wouldn't
(25:44):
trust him make a fantasy trade. Like if I was
going away for a weekends today, dude, can you run
my fantasy team because I'm gonna be out of the country,
not by file. I wouldn't trust him to do that.
I would I say, no, I got somebody else for
my lineup. I wouldn't have to do that for me.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, he joked along trader Bill as soon as he
got the responsibilities and the authority to do so. Again,
you had some upheaval at the top, right as you
had the death of the owner and a vacuum of power.
So he becomes the de facto man in charge and
decided to live up to it. Guys that didn't fit
(26:16):
whatever his long term plan was, or maybe he had
some meeting issues with over scheme and their roles that
they all found their way on the outs. One after another.
We saw trades, and here you bring back a running
back look in his first year with Houston, still one
thousand total yards, eight touchdowns. Not awful, but statue can
(26:38):
get from somebody else fairly easy. Right in twenty nineteen
averaged three point six yards of carry in his final
year as a member of the Cardinals. Just a guy,
but yeah, I mean Bill O'Brien for that period in Houston,
he dismantled everything they were building.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
And you know, and it's not about getting rid of
the guys as much as it's you're going to maximize
the return on it. But he's smart would do if
you would, you could have said, hey, DeAndre Hopkins is
on the block, And how many teams would have called
you back and say, hey, we'll give you a first
round pick and a third or.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
We'll give you all of this.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Oh okay, great, and you don't have to worry about
getting anything back or taking on any salary. That like,
that's how you do it. And he clearly had no
idea how the modern NFL worked. So that's why I mean,
like some bad trades happened as that didn't work. We
made this this guy was picked here, this was you
knew everything going on and you still made this trick. Well.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But he's just another great example of you may have
the acumen as a coordinator, maybe that's your ceiling. In
his case, he went up to a head coach all right,
and he had some success at times, but going into
the front office and being the guy that's executing deals
clearly was he was over his skis right and and
one of many. And he's from the Belichick tree. What
(27:52):
didn't we say all for years about Bill Belichick, great
coach and the guys that he put on the field.
Damn it, he coached him up, but you know what,
he couldn't pick him. And it's and it's not like
DeAndre Hopkins went and was great for the next five years.
He had a great next year, he was awesome in
twenty twenty, and then he kind of fell a parliament,
wasn't healthy at a tough time, but still gets a
(28:13):
runner back Rochy with Kyler Murray offt injured as well
didn't help.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
But it's about maximizing what you need to get. And still, hey,
we'll chase Okay, what do you want from back? I
give you the second round pick, We'll give you a
fourth and give us David Johnson?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Wait really yeah? Oh sure? How fast can I fax
this into the league? Off? Get that paperwork in now? Now?
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. But if you had David Johnson in
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Mike Harmon. Well, we now are looking ahead at the
conference finals, the Celtics and the Pacers. Pace bed one
day to enjoy that. Hey, you wan, congratulations, you're playing
on too. Uh, you're playing the series on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Get on a plane.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Everybody's got the Celtics in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Not so fair? How could it happen? We'll tell you
next right here, Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (29:14):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
Friend Mike Harmon. Uh. Now, at least I know sometimes
why we get the songs we do.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
On the show.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Why is that, Jason?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, because I was just in their talk with you
in Frostberg and you were talking to somebody and you said,
on the phone, what song do you want to hear?
What's on Songasions.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Are you telling me, Jason?
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Mason didn't try to call up some girl he was
talking to was like, hey, when we play with song
or no.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We used to take we used to take requests all
the time. Did you you had to answer the phone
whenever it ran? Like our boss, he was an idiot,
was like, you have to answer the phone whenever. We
want to make sure that everybody knows they can get
through because they can call to win prizes. So every
time the phone rang, they wanted just to answer, so
I would have to answer all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Is he any nine?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Can you please play the Price of Love by bet England?
Sure we'll get that on for you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Thanks all of it, and then even the songs you hated,
and the worst part of it was, oh yeah, we
don't have that one. Well, you know, the whole thing
was they they said, never play a song that's not
a current, like you can do requests to go. Hey,
this song is for Jane in Baldwinsville, And if it's
a new sit it's Madonna like a prayer whatever it was,
like you would, but if it was ever an old song,
(30:22):
they said, never do it. I'm like, why we don't
want people think they can call request old songs to go,
But you want me to.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Answer the phone whenever it rings? What do you mean
we're talking about? And then you talk to versus Yeah,
we're not going to play that for you. Yeah, we're
not on the music station. So I thought it'd be
romantic task for a song to play, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh so it's someone you're dating. You could say that, Okay,
what's song do you want to hear? I've just heard
you say it very low.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What song do you want to I just kind of
like that. It became a you could say that, what
do you want do you want to hear?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I mean we got to monetize this and say, hey,
if you want, you know, find out a way to
make money for the show.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
If you want to hear a song, donate some cast.
We might need to start that. Hey, this is Alex Teischer.
What song do you want to hear? What song would
you like to hear? Called the jukebox out. If it's
a song that you don't like, then the cost goes
up from maybe a nice side to a nice sandwich.
I like that sandwich. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So we're getting set now for the Eastern Conference Finals,
which kicks off tomorrow Boston and Indiana.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
No, No, neither of the Lakers. I'm sorry. Uh, we've
we've told you they're in the final. Not in the finals.
The We told you that.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Look, this is the year for the Celtics there by
to get into the NBA Finals. It should be there. Yeah,
Now here's the thing. Because everybody's got the Celtics in.
How can the Pacers win? I'll tell you one thing
we have seen, and I've told you this is a
big thing with with the with the Celtics, is that
they somehow find a way to come up very soft
(31:46):
during series when they think they have the upper hand
and they don't play hard. We have seen them give
away games in every series going back to last year
this year as well, giving away games in the first
two rounds of teams. Hey, they shouldn't be on the
same floor as you. How are they winning Game two
in Boston? How is this happening? And then Boston stands up,
(32:07):
It's okay ready, Then they throw the hammer down and
they play well the rest of the series. But this
is what they do. They give games away when they
feel that, hey, we have the upperhand, all we need
to do is execute. So can I see them losing
one of the first two games. Yeah, I can see
that happen, whether it's the first game they think, ah,
the Pacers are tied we gotta go in and execute,
and the Pacers on the vapors of this sixty seven
(32:29):
percent shooting game against the Knicks, they wind up having
a big game, or it could be game two if
the Pacers get pounded, and then this is where things
get trouble for the Celtics. The Pacers are a really
good offensive team. You saw hot they got. I don't
think they're gonna shoot sixty seven percent in the game. Again,
it's once in a lifetime. It was against the Knicks. Congratulations,
But can the Pacers get hot and win Game three
(32:50):
in Game four at home because they shoot really well
and Haliburton has a big game, or it's Turner with
a big game or somebody else. That can absolutely happen.
And I can suddenly look at the South Teltica's going
home being down three to one and being in a
lot of trouble, So you think suddenly it can happen. Yes,
they're the overwhelming favorites, but those are the two big
things I can see. They take them light in one
of the first two games, and the Pacers win, and
(33:12):
they shoot the lights out at home and suddenly, hey,
they're up three to one in Game five last two years.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean, we've seen the Celtics give away a game
in every series at home. Right, They're a five hundred
team at home, just barely above And what you're looking
at is with the laws of Porzingis, it's funny how
it comes back to him, your guy as we talk
about former Knicks. Now, great, the opportunity for Perzingis's absence
to be exploited when you're talking about Turner and Siakam, etc.
(33:42):
And working down low. Now, what's interesting for this series?
Ready for the odds Celtics minus thirteen hundred. Ye, so
you would have to bet thirteen hundred dollars to win
one hundred dollars Pacers plus seven thirty.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Look see how those first two events, when the Celtics
show up and don't play well and they give away
a game, eventually, it's gonna bite you in the ass.
Was it gonna do it in the first round because
the heat playing without Jimmy Butler, It's not gonna happen.
Second round against Cleveland, No, Donovan Mitchell, not gonna happen.
But this round, a Pacers team that's pretty deep and
(34:18):
just one is shooting pretty well, feeling pretty confident, you
lay up in one of those first two games. Yeah,
all of a sudden Game five, the Celtics trying to
keep their season alive, and Rick Carlisle do all kinds
of bad.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh small dam market teams. Oh wait, we're up three
to one. Sorry, I'm not crying about that.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, no we're Oh my team's playing well, very happy.
Without that, everything is going. It can happen that fast
to Boston. Watch out as Rick Carlisle become your arch
and nemesis. Now you really hate him, you know, you
really love to rail on him wherever possible is.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Even here you were giving a saria where they're up
three to one, and he was still he was crying
and whining.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
No, we're not getting judge.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh now we're winning. Oh yeah, okay, now I feel better.
I'm not gonna talk about the officiating anymore. Oh okay, great, Yeah,
because I gave you a cookie. Here you go, you
little kid got a cookie. No, he's not crying anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Who doesn't get excited when you get a cookie. But
you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Maybe you do, No, you know, not to reward cookies
for bad behavior. I'm not saying I would. I'm just
saying that people. I mean, I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Work here, not quiet. I'm broadcasting. That was a cookie,
not like I'm not the word.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
My wife says, don't give Benny any treats because he
hasn't eating his food. Okay, and then he gives me
those eyes and he stands eyes near his tree tore
and then he scratched it with his paw and he's
got half a big back before I go done. Okay, okay,
I know you're not gonna say anything.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So here you go. Here's a little treat for you.
Here's a little treat for you, and I give it
to me. I know you're not gonna say anything. He's
gonna go rat you out. Well, that's all I know.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's not that it's all he did. It's all he'spins
it back out and starts pointing your way. It's not
like I would have done it for Zoey. And so
he goes mom, Dad gave me ice cream when you
said no, no, Benny's not.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Gonna say I still think there were a lot of
clandestine deals back in the deal back in the day
with with Zoe when she was young.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
And Benny bark twice if the nick suck now. Benny's
my guy, just pawing at the dad.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Will you give me?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Okay, I don't believe all you're good guys. Benny's barking twice.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Exit out, bout of Fresca, exit, swallowing down.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harden
coming up next. Yes, we'll get back into the biggest
story of the night and internet content. I didn't know
I needed today, but I got it. Jason and Mike.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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them Heart's.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:08):
The way tire buying should be Yes, No, look because
we'll get to you know something else that really pisses
me off about this are But again the something else,
the Knicks. The Knicks don't upset me. They went as
far as they could, Like we talked about this, it's
not the Knicks, it's not the Knicks. But I will
say first, this series turned on that nem Hard three,
(01:29):
Like that was that this was the Knicks closed were
slowly closing on the Pacers in Game three and a
game that they gave away. They missed some shots, but
it doesn't matter. They were going to get the basketball
back with a chance to win the game at the
end of regulation and Nemhard hits a three that he
still doesn't believe he made it. He's got no memory
of it. He just blacked out. Halliburton can't believe he
(01:52):
made He's crying on the court like it was after
the lightness shot.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
In Thomas Hill was oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I mean that shot that flipped the series. That he
just keeps missing the shot because it's a thirty one
flame from their worst player who just threw it up
because he had no choice because he had But it
was a good step back shot, like there was.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
It wasn't a he threw it over his head or
he was trying to pretend he was curly and he was.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
He was like Woody Harrison, a white man can't jump
when he gets Rosie Perez on on Jeopardy and he
makes the hook shot from the further end.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, can I use a hook shot? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Sure, that was like the shot. I think that had
a better chance of going in than them Hard's three.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
May dude, Mike Breen's been waiting his whole career to
call a shot like that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
No, not.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
If that was a really big he would have given
a double bang. He gave a double bang earlier. He
gave only one bang from you know who got double
bangs was the Knicks. Yeah, okay, I could, I could
go further, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Please do No. It is a roast after all. I mean,
that's it. Come on, find the line.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That was the exact time where that series went from, oh,
now we have life, and now we can go because
everything went was going according to plan for the Mix,
they reeled them in. They were taking over the game,
and the entire time that possession for the Pacers was
oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, oh yes,
that's what that possession was. It was, Ah, there's there's
(03:15):
no there. I mean that maybe the Pacers sold their
souls for the next fifty years for nem Hard to
make that shot.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I went, that flipped everything. It flipped everything. By the way,
thanks for that sound drop you just gave us as well.
That's heir. You know, I'm here. Information here, dance and
the gift of the dance will live forever here in
the hallways of Fox Sports Radio. Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And you can you can hate on nem Hart. He
had twenty points in the season crushing season ending who
I think Rick Smith's had twenty points. But I think
Dale Davis had twenty points in that game. And while
that might have been Antonio Davis had twenty points in
that it would have been nice to see them roam
the painting. I think Hope Davis had twenty points in
that yet Hope Davis.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Y Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Now, Look, as far as I said with the Knicks,
I'm fine. The Knicks went as far as they could
with with where they were, the injuries to the team.
I feel great about next year, their future. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But this is what gets Joe Hartenstein signs away because
he can make a lot more money elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, listen, we gotta trade somebody to get to get
somebody good. You know, we got trade somebody from a cabridge.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
We got trade. We gotta trade somebody.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I mean, look, look the Nick The Knicks are set
up for a great future because they have their identity
and they've had it. They are Jalen Brunson driven. They
are Villanova driven. Now you have everything you need. You
have the draft picks. You have eight first round picks,
you can deal. You have Julius Randall in his contract.
You have a lot you can do to get that
(04:46):
other star player that you need. You have Anunobi, you
need one, you need one more start. They're gonna go
star shopping. They will get what they need, either in
free agency or via trade.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I'm everything. What do you mean who's my in terms
in terms of the players that you want out there?
This is where I get to let you be amateur
GM and her little cat on. Let your train run
around as your your your building empire is which star
player says, you know what I want to go commit
(05:16):
to playing forty minutes a night of Nolan Richardson liked
basketball as of NBA.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That was that was out of necessity because there wasn't
anybody else.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, no, no, no, But it's still the Tom Thibodeau way. Yeah,
is the point I'm trying to trying to make of
which superstar that you want to go into the market
to trade for? Is gonna say, man, not only do
I love I mean I like the culture they have
there and everybody's bought in and it certainly is a team,
and boy, why can't I have that? You know, like
the end of Jerry Maguire, Why don't we have that
(05:47):
kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
When it's when the Knicks have become cool and how
they've owned the playoffs the last couple of weeks. But
is like, but you have to buy into playing that style.
Anybody wants to go, it will be fine because the
Knicks will be deep enough that you not have to worry.
I'm not gonna play forty minutes if they make it,
like for a guy like Joel Embiid, which obviously not
gonna trade for Joel Embid He's got to say I
want out. I want to go to New York. But
(06:09):
it's going to be any of these guys, whether it's
it's Karl Anthony Towns. But now the Minnesota Timberwolves run
may change for a little bit, but there's there's so many. Look,
you know, Don Mitchell is dying to get out there.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Come on, come on, I was supposed to be there
a couple of years ago. I want out now.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't know that he's a great fit, but there's
there's stars that they can go out and get very easily,
because now the Knicks have become cool again.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
They are the cool team.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yes, I'm ready to go there and I can be
the missing piece and I can see what it's like
to play an MSG. I can see the guys being
treated as heroes.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
This is what I see.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Smith will never talk this. I don't have to worry
about anything on television anymore. Look, it'll happen. It'll just
guys will all kiss my ass. I changed my surname
to James Nix.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Will get what.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
They have a strong head coach, they have a strong leadership.
Now the Knicks have turned their their organization around very quickly,
and now it is they are safe. It's like it's
like you know in The Simpsons when the Springfield Savings
safe from eighteen seventy nine to nineteen ninety six, Like
it's it's you're safe to go to the Knicks. Now
you're safe to put your money in this ira. You're
safe to put the money in this bank. You're safe
(07:12):
to get bounced in the second round. You're safe to invest.
Uh yeah, yeah, Lakers make it.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
To the safe to get bounce in the second round.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
They'd love to make it the second round. Uh, it's safe.
It's safe to go run well because he's maybe.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Got seventeen championships, man, matter what, how many championships?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
How many have I seen ten of them? Who's gone?
I've seen ten of them? Okay, how many in the
last year? When the Knicks are good?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
None?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Zero zero? You have the Knicks and then good they
should have been they Oh he would cook McConnelly everybody.
They shot seventy percent from the.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Flight because they played the next No team in NBA
history had ever done that before.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
That's the Nixon sold their soul to get to that point,
and the devil came to collect so one by one,
one by one.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
The bell to the waist, sail that you should have
got more. Correction, Jason, I've seen eleven the n season tournament.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, I forgot the is st you did when I'm sorry,
I forgot about the five hundred thousand dollars bonuses.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I forgot about the is T I did. I forgot.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I got five hundred thousand dollars. Buddy, I said, I forgot.
I forgot the is T was that big a thing?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I forgot? You're right, I completely forgot. Well, I mean
Adam Silver wanting to big a deal.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
That no, because you can see how big it is
compared to the NBA playoffs. Can't you see how big
it is? Can you see now how huge the is
T is? Hey, there were two champions this year, the
Lakers and you know, the Timberwolves.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
We were one of the two champs. What it was.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That's like the n i T winner saying, well it
was us and Yukon. We were the two champions. I
mean it was one. You know, we were the sixty
ninth best team. They were the first best team.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Every day I tell you find your wins. You know what,
today we all woke up. We defeated the grave for
one more day.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Come on, But I'll tell you what what upsets me?
And I can't say this is surprising because this is
more of the category of embarrassing yet expected. After the
series is over, Reggie Miller decides to go on social
media and trol the Knicks with this post on Instagram
when the series changed, and it's got it's it's got
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a picture of from the series.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He's a broadcast professional.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
When when when when Josh Hart came over to tell him,
they're saying blank you, Reggie Jalen Brunson, You're a true ballard,
been the best player in these playoffs. But you and
your boys can all heal up together on some beautiful
beaches in kang Kun. Please enjoy God don't like ugly Pacers.
Knicks rivalry lives all right now. Look this is embarrassing
yet expected because the Knicks rivalry is all the Pacers
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and Reggie Miller have. That's all they have the history
of the Indiana Pacers. Well, what do they have? Reggie
Miller's eight points and nine seconds and beating the Knicks
in the playoffs. Here they're now four and three all
time against the Knicks in the playoffs. This is all
the pace, just half. No one would even pay any
attention to the Pacers if they didn't have a playoff
rivalry with the Knicks. Where now they've won one more
time than the Knicks. Half Reggie Miller owes his entire
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career to the eight points and nine seconds and the
trolling with Spike Lee and the Knicks fans and the
choke signed.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
He owes his entire career.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's all he's remembered for him and his eighteen points
a game.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's what he's remembered for. Is this all he.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Has is the Knicks. He likes to sit here and
go yeah, yeah, look the Knicks. Yeah yeah, that's all
he has. Without those eight points and nine seconds, it's
a very easy career to go. Oh, Reggie Miller was
a good shooter. Yeah, I remember, he was pretty good.
He owes his entire career to the Knicks and to
that game, because you saw if they lost this series,
it would be how the hell do you lose to
three guys from Villanova? And I mean three, that's the
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three guys they were down to play. Really was two
guys at the end, really was a guy and a
half at the end because Brunson broke his hand and
you know that Josh Hart wasn't healthy. How do you
lose this? It's more embarrassing for the Pacers if they
didn't win with a Knicks guy getting hurt every five minutes,
a horror movie when someone dies every ten minutes, someone
gets hurt, every game and a half, someone.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Goes out for the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
But this is Reggie Miller, right this, it's it's it's
it's something that is again, it's embarrassing yet expected and
and the best part of this is that this is
an NBA team, whether it's Reggie Miller or Tyrese Halliburton,
you know, wearing the Reggie Miller choke signed sweatshirt after
it is over. This is a team that has decided
we're gonna pick a war with the team's fan base,
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not really at war with the Knicks. Knicks and the
Knicks didn't say anything during the playoffs to upset. There
was no war of words between Brunson and Thibodeaux and
Carlisle anybody else. No, they've decided we want to troll
Knicks fans like this is the franchise, not the other team.
Because we had a back and forth and it was
really contentious and all no, no, no, we we decide
we want to get involved with a fan base. This
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is the Pacers. All they have are the Knicks and
their fans because they no one would even know anything
about them if they didn't have it. They would say,
Indiana Patris. They would say, is that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Where Kaitlyn Clark plays no fever? Oh right, Pacers there
the other team right right, right, right right. That's a
five time All Star, all time seven a fifth anniversary squad.
He's a gold medalist, he's a he's an American hero.
Nobody would pay any attention to him if he didn't
have the eight points and nine seconds. Nobody would. Nobody would.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And again look at him dining out on this like, oh,
thank goodness this has come up because I get to
sit here and remind people about my eight points and
nine seconds and this and the choke gesture and spike Lee,
and I boy, this has made my career.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's what it is. It's one moment made his career,
one moment in time.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
We all want one moment what he wants, but this,
but this is this is a barrage of eight points
and he had a he had a terrific eighteen point
a game career for a shooter like that, eighteen a game.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I mean, that's that's some kind of career. This is
all people know. Now you're disparaging. No, there's no sarcasm
and he's in the Hall of Fame, isn't he for
as good as he was?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He made the All Star team five times? Once out
of every three years for his career, he made it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's that's not bad.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
One out of every three years making an All Star team,
it's not bad. One out of three make the team,
don't make the team, don't make the team, make the team,
don't make the team, don't make the team, make the team.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That's pretty good. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer
five times. Pretty good. Well, you after a team five
five times, it's pretty good. But he's a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
He wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame if he
didn't have the eight points and nine seconds. He would
not be in the Hall of the career that he
had over No, you have to have five time all
top seventh moment. But in his moment, he's in the
Hall of Tell me one other moment you remember from
his career, him doing this sign after your nich just
lost this. That's twenty years after his career is over
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and it's on televide.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Look what he did.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
He was able to bring it back. Yeah, and he
brought it back and bam. He hasn't played Bank Bay.
He got you again.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's the second moment you know from him, is what
happened ten minutes ago.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
How great is that? That's what I that he was
able to bring it back full circle. He had and
he got it you again. If I can see it
in your face, if you're hatred for Reggie Miller right now,
you'd lightsaber him. If you ain't bad hit in that
the young if you said to Reggie hate you can
do your whole career again.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
What do you want to do? It's I want to
play for the Knicks. I guarantee you. I want to
play for the Knicks. That's what he wants. But instead
he's known as the Knicks killer. But instead I want
to troll Knicks fans about Cancun to this d Yeah,
I'll get great red.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
But they probably sold them. If he got a cut
of all of the T shirts being worn in Indiana,
if in that gesture did hopefully got it, I hope
he had someone for some T shirts and make a
few bucks selling them outside the arena. In the next round.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Again, this is what upsets me, because his whole career
is he owes it to the next he'd be nothing
without the Knicks, be nothing without me. You be nothing
like Mozart and Salieri. Salary said, you'd be nothing without
It's what it is. It's exit out about a Fresco
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Coming up next, Jason and Mike Fox and the horrendous
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Speaker 2 (15:16):
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We get tons and tons of fan mail every day,
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Speaker 4 (15:40):
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Speaker 3 (16:01):
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Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeh, Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my
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Com Studios. Game seven, Edmonton Oilers leading the Canucks three nothing,
the birth of the Western Conference Finals on the line. Dallas, Dallas,
big time for Dallas right now, big big time.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
The center of the universe right now? How about that?
Who knew?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm gonna have to do something to get the get
the headlines away. Maybe now, maybe now I will give
Dack that money, maybe I'll sign him, maybe I'll maybe
I'll give back that money.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I need a little bit of heat.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So uh uh you let me know when the right
time is. When when the dontage kid is scoring a lot?
If they're gonna go to the finals. Uh, and then well,
hockey's hockey. But you know still, uh, just let me
know and I'll announce, and you know, maybe I'll give
Dak even more money. That'll be bigger headlines. I was
gonna give him sixty maybou give him seventy five million
a year?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
You joke about it, but I wouldn't doubt if we
get some kind of ramman, whether it's Dak or something.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
What's Jerry Jones to get something from the Cowboys? What
is Jerry Jones gonna do to somehow out do the
Mavericks and the Stars in the Western Conference finals of
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Not to be left behind? Does that make sense? I mean,
as much as we may joke about it, that legitimately
the Cowboys they don't like everybody else, get in the
back of the fish wraps.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I went on a tweet machine and uh, no one's
but the last the time I saw me talking about
Dak was dated like like a week and a half ago. So, uh,
I don't know what to do. Maybe I should I
bring Tony back. Now, bring Tony back to Maybe that's
what I'll do.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Maybe you go and authorize funds to make a full
length movie of your schedule. Yeah, maybe maybe signed Tom
Brady may bring Tom Brady back. That's what we'll do.
Bring Brady back. Something happens, That's what we'll do. Could
be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Maybe maybe maybe have my own roast. Yeah, let somebody
roast me. Oh boy, yeah, Jerry Jones roast.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You don't think enough people did that with the images
that they are on that Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But I'm gonna tell people what they can talk about.
Didn't they just announced they can't talk about. Didn't they
announce a ten part series on you, Jerry? But it's
it's it's uh, I have a final cut. I'll be
I'll be the one standing there with a with a
iPad going. I took that personally and I ruined the
guy in a business deal. Uh so that happened there
and uh yeah, that guy we haven't seen him in
twenty five years. Which episode is the paternity test that
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that doesn't make it into the show.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I'm sorry that shows up in episode seven. I've already
seen the IMDb credits. Listen, you want to know, I'll
give you. I'll give you an advanced report of what
this series is about. I am the fun when I
when I buy the team and we win the Super
Bowl the next year, and then we fast forward to now.
So we're gonna go from nineteen ninety three, uh, or
(18:53):
we really nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety three to nineteen
ninety six. Fire Jimmy Johnson, fast forward to now when
assigned back to that money, give him seventy five million dollars,
that's gonna be and then we'll have a lot in
the years in the middle, well, we'll have a voiceover
that says, hey, cowboys had some successes over the next
two and a half decades.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Now that got seventy five million. That's how the Cowboys
show is gonna go.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
That's pretty funny that he throws up the I am
the Father, because in my timeline, it's been the anniversaries
of all the prequel Star Wars films, right, Phantom Menace, Yeah,
Revenge of the Return or whatever it was, of the
Sith and everything else. So everybody's been doing their twenty year,
twenty five year anniversaries of what I really think about
this film or don't hate this film so much? So
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only appropriate while we're talking about Jerry Jones and red
conning all of this stuff and the history thereof that.
We add that to the Star Wars legacy. While we're
at it, When is Star Wars all in?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, when we can sign the McGregor kid to come
back and play the Obi Wan character again? We want
him and uh, I'm gonna make sure we get uh
uh Zach Efron to play Darth Vader and uh you
know i'd put put lifts in his shoes, make him taller. Uh,
and then he'll play him. And uh Tom Hanks will
play Luke and uh what else we gotta get? Oh
we go, oh we got. I gotta get the Evans kid,
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uh from the from the Captain America.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
He's gonna come.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
He's gonna play Tony Romo and uh and then the
Gosling fellow. Uh, these isn't a lot of shows right now. Uh,
he's gonna play me. So that's uh that that's gonna
be the movie right there.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Ryan got And when you say McGregor kidd, he totally
thinks it's Connor.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I thought you were an Irish guy. What do you do? Hey?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
What is it if I click on this? What does
it mean with these big I? Oh oh oh I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I'm sorry I had to say that. I didn't know that.
Sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Uh so, yes, but yeah, what what will Jerry Jones
do to try to use surp attention. I'm telling you
it's gonna happen to be something there. And Doak you
want eighty million, I gotta give you that. I gotta
get something, man. Uh stars are stars are leading the
Mavericks leading the series.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Two zip. Stars are up two zip.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Maybe eighty five million, dec I'm that ninety million, Nat,
You'll sign Dak right, all guaranteed, guaranteed, Danton. But there
is a there's a big football story to get to here,
because we saw in the last twenty four hours the
retirement of running back David Johnson.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah who you say.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That name and some people go, oh, they get wistful
memories of that twenty sixteen where we thought David Johnson
was gonna be the greatest running back in the history
of the world. That means right now, people hold up
there trow from twenty sixteen. I'm gonna dust that off,
go look at the statum that year David Johnson comes
out of nowhere to be the best fantasy running back
in the game. Touchdowns, catches. He did not have a.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Year like that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Again, he had one year and that was it and
he announce his retirement today. He's been in the league
for eight years and that was the year.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
That was the year.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And it's still stunning to think because when he had
it's like, Wow, this guy's gonna be one of the
next great running backs in the game, and it just
didn't happen. And you look back, Yeah, it's like twenty
fifteen with Blake Bortles. You had twenty sixteen with David Johnson,
twenty fifteen with Blake Bortles. This is where it is,
David Johnson retiring from the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, we go back to the year of what twenty fifteen,
he comes into the league. It's him, It's Ellington, Stefan Taylor, right,
guy right coming out of college. And then you had
Kerwin Williams. So those are the running backs on the roster.
So workload split average nearly five yards to carry. So
it's like, all right, he was on the sleeper list
for the following years, but nobody could have expected the greatness.
(22:31):
And I think when I saw the news hit today
of him announcing his retirement, going it's announcing his retirement today.
Not I wouldn't thought that would have been a Yeah,
DeVante Parker, another guy had a couple of decent runs
and opportunities and showed up on your fantasy boards. Nothing
like Johnson, but to the point of I thought these
guys were already retired. Yeah, God, David Johnson still in
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the league still now, Look he all hadn't played since
twenty twenty two, when he was a member of the Saints.
He also brings memory of Look, we talk about bad
trades in NFL history, and when we talk about bad trades, generally,
it's here's a trade that was made and it didn't
work out because the draft picks that went for this
player turned into this great player, or this guy went
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and got hurt and never materialized. And then there's the
bad trade that happened in twenty twenty which, if you,
which is in its own category of worst trade ever
because it shows the anettonus of Bill O'Brien who was
the head coach of the Texans and made a bunch
of eyebrow raising deals and trading away his team's best players. Yeah, good, coach,
just got power when you had the death at the top.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
He trades DeAndre Hopkins, who at that point was one
of the top three receivers in the NFL at worst,
one of the top three receivers in the NFL, trades
into the Cardinals for David Johnson, who again at that
point hadn't had a good year in four years. The
Texans also gave up also got a second round pick,
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but traded a fourth round pick away. But mainly this
was here's DeAndre Hopkins for David Johnson, for a guy
who was the best receiver or one top three receiver
in the game, to a guy who was just a
running back who the Cardinals wanted to get rid of
because they had just signed him to a law a
three year, forty million dollar deal they wanted to get
out of. And that's why this is in its own
(24:18):
category of worst trade ever, because bad trades happen. This
was avoidable. This was if you want to trade DeAndre Hopkins,
and Bill O'Brien said at the time, Hey, you know
he wants a big contract. We don't know that we
want to give it to him, which okay, wow, but okay,
I understand that. So you trade the guy away. He's
got another year on his contract. This is where you
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trade a guy and you get a couple of draft picks,
or you get something that's gonna help you asset wise. Instead,
you traded for a guy who wasn't any good and
was owed twenty some odd million dollars for the next
two years. How do you The Cardinals must have woke
up that day saying, seriously, they'll do this trade. Let's
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do it right, let's do it right now. Before he
talks to somebody and someone says, are you insane? You're
gonna trade for an average, a below average running back
who hasn't been good in four years, and and and
instead we're going to trade away DeAndre Hopkins, where if
we want to, we should be able to get more
for him. That's why this has its its own category
of worse trade ever, because this was this was something
(25:22):
that was so completely avoidable or could have been done
in a better way. If you wanted to move on
from Hopkins. Okay, you don't want to pay him money,
I get it, but wow, to say this is that
we're gonna take back you bailed Arizona out. They would
have given David Johnson away, but it said no, no,
here's our best player and you didn't get anything back
in return. Like this is Bill O'Brien, Like I wouldn't
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trust him make a fantasy trade. Like if I was
going away for a weekends today, dude, can you run
my fantasy team because I'm gonna be out of the country,
not by file. I wouldn't trust him to do that.
I would I say, no, I got somebody else for
my lineup. I wouldn't have to do that for me.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, he joked along trader Bill as soon as he
got the responsibilities and the authority to do so. Again,
you had some upheaval at the top, right as you
had the death of the owner and a vacuum of power.
So he becomes the de facto man in charge and
decided to live up to it. Guys that didn't fit
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whatever his long term plan was, or maybe he had
some meeting issues with over scheme and their roles that
they all found their way on the outs. One after another.
We saw trades, and here you bring back a running
back look in his first year with Houston, still one
thousand total yards, eight touchdowns. Not awful, but statue can
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get from somebody else fairly easy. Right in twenty nineteen
averaged three point six yards of carry in his final
year as a member of the Cardinals. Just a guy,
but yeah, I mean Bill O'Brien for that period in Houston,
he dismantled everything they were building.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
And you know, and it's not about getting rid of
the guys as much as it's you're going to maximize
the return on it. But he's smart would do if
you would, you could have said, hey, DeAndre Hopkins is
on the block, And how many teams would have called
you back and say, hey, we'll give you a first
round pick and a third or.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
We'll give you all of this.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Oh okay, great, and you don't have to worry about
getting anything back or taking on any salary. That like,
that's how you do it. And he clearly had no
idea how the modern NFL worked. So that's why I mean,
like some bad trades happened as that didn't work. We
made this this guy was picked here, this was you
knew everything going on and you still made this trick. Well.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But he's just another great example of you may have
the acumen as a coordinator, maybe that's your ceiling. In
his case, he went up to a head coach all right,
and he had some success at times, but going into
the front office and being the guy that's executing deals
clearly was he was over his skis right and and
one of many. And he's from the Belichick tree. What
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didn't we say all for years about Bill Belichick, great
coach and the guys that he put on the field.
Damn it, he coached him up, but you know what,
he couldn't pick him. And it's and it's not like
DeAndre Hopkins went and was great for the next five years.
He had a great next year, he was awesome in
twenty twenty, and then he kind of fell a parliament,
wasn't healthy at a tough time, but still gets a
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runner back Rochy with Kyler Murray offt injured as well
didn't help.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
But it's about maximizing what you need to get. And still, hey,
we'll chase Okay, what do you want from back? I
give you the second round pick, We'll give you a
fourth and give us David Johnson?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Wait really yeah? Oh sure? How fast can I fax
this into the league? Off? Get that paperwork in now? Now?
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. But if you had David Johnson in
twenty sixteen The Jason Smith Show with My best Friend
Mike Harmon. Well, we now are looking ahead at the
conference finals, the Celtics and the Pacers. Pace bed one
day to enjoy that. Hey, you wan, congratulations, you're playing
on too. Uh, you're playing the series on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Get on a plane.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Everybody's got the Celtics in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Not so fair? How could it happen? We'll tell you
next right here, Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
Friend Mike Harmon. Uh. Now, at least I know sometimes
why we get the songs we do.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
On the show.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Why is that, Jason?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, because I was just in their talk with you
in Frostberg and you were talking to somebody and you said,
on the phone, what song do you want to hear?
What's on Songasions.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Are you telling me, Jason?
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Mason didn't try to call up some girl he was
talking to was like, hey, when we play with song
or no.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
We used to take we used to take requests all
the time. Did you you had to answer the phone
whenever it ran? Like our boss, he was an idiot,
was like, you have to answer the phone whenever. We
want to make sure that everybody knows they can get
through because they can call to win prizes. So every
time the phone rang, they wanted just to answer, so
I would have to answer all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Is he any nine?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Can you please play the Price of Love by bet England?
Sure we'll get that on for you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Thanks all of it, and then even the songs you hated,
and the worst part of it was, oh yeah, we
don't have that one. Well, you know, the whole thing
was they they said, never play a song that's not
a current, like you can do requests to go. Hey,
this song is for Jane in Baldwinsville, And if it's
a new sit it's Madonna like a prayer whatever it was,
like you would, but if it was ever an old song,
(30:22):
they said, never do it. I'm like, why we don't
want people think they can call request old songs to go,
But you want me to.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Answer the phone whenever it rings? What do you mean
we're talking about? And then you talk to versus Yeah,
we're not going to play that for you. Yeah, we're
not on the music station. So I thought it'd be
romantic task for a song to play, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Oh so it's someone you're dating. You could say that, Okay,
what's song do you want to hear? I've just heard
you say it very low.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
What song do you want to I just kind of
like that. It became a you could say that, what
do you want do you want to hear?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I mean we got to monetize this and say, hey,
if you want, you know, find out a way to
make money for the show.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
If you want to hear a song, donate some cast.
We might need to start that. Hey, this is Alex Teischer.
What song do you want to hear? What song would
you like to hear? Called the jukebox out. If it's
a song that you don't like, then the cost goes
up from maybe a nice side to a nice sandwich.
I like that sandwich. Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So we're getting set now for the Eastern Conference Finals,
which kicks off tomorrow Boston and Indiana.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
No, No, neither of the Lakers. I'm sorry. Uh, we've
we've told you they're in the final. Not in the finals.
The We told you that.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Look, this is the year for the Celtics there by
to get into the NBA Finals. It should be there. Yeah,
Now here's the thing. Because everybody's got the Celtics in.
How can the Pacers win? I'll tell you one thing
we have seen, and I've told you this is a
big thing with with the with the Celtics, is that
they somehow find a way to come up very soft
(31:46):
during series when they think they have the upper hand
and they don't play hard. We have seen them give
away games in every series going back to last year
this year as well, giving away games in the first
two rounds of teams. Hey, they shouldn't be on the
same floor as you. How are they winning Game two
in Boston? How is this happening? And then Boston stands up,
(32:07):
It's okay ready, Then they throw the hammer down and
they play well the rest of the series. But this
is what they do. They give games away when they
feel that, hey, we have the upperhand, all we need
to do is execute. So can I see them losing
one of the first two games. Yeah, I can see
that happen, whether it's the first game they think, ah,
the Pacers are tied we gotta go in and execute,
and the Pacers on the vapors of this sixty seven
(32:29):
percent shooting game against the Knicks, they wind up having
a big game, or it could be game two if
the Pacers get pounded, and then this is where things
get trouble for the Celtics. The Pacers are a really
good offensive team. You saw hot they got. I don't
think they're gonna shoot sixty seven percent in the game. Again,
it's once in a lifetime. It was against the Knicks. Congratulations,
But can the Pacers get hot and win Game three
(32:50):
in Game four at home because they shoot really well
and Haliburton has a big game, or it's Turner with
a big game or somebody else. That can absolutely happen.
And I can suddenly look at the South Teltica's going
home being down three to one and being in a
lot of trouble, So you think suddenly it can happen. Yes,
they're the overwhelming favorites, but those are the two big
things I can see. They take them light in one
of the first two games, and the Pacers win, and
(33:12):
they shoot the lights out at home and suddenly, hey,
they're up three to one in Game five last two years.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean, we've seen the Celtics give away a game
in every series at home. Right, They're a five hundred
team at home, just barely above And what you're looking
at is with the laws of Porzingis, it's funny how
it comes back to him, your guy as we talk
about former Knicks. Now, great, the opportunity for Perzingis's absence
to be exploited when you're talking about Turner and Siakam, etc.
(33:42):
And working down low. Now, what's interesting for this series?
Ready for the odds Celtics minus thirteen hundred. Ye, so
you would have to bet thirteen hundred dollars to win
one hundred dollars Pacers plus seven thirty.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Look see how those first two events, when the Celtics
show up and don't play well and they give away
a game, eventually, it's gonna bite you in the ass.
Was it gonna do it in the first round because
the heat playing without Jimmy Butler, It's not gonna happen.
Second round against Cleveland, No, Donovan Mitchell, not gonna happen.
But this round, a Pacers team that's pretty deep and
(34:18):
just one is shooting pretty well, feeling pretty confident, you
lay up in one of those first two games. Yeah,
all of a sudden Game five, the Celtics trying to
keep their season alive, and Rick Carlisle do all kinds
of bad.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh small dam market teams. Oh wait, we're up three
to one. Sorry, I'm not crying about that.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, no we're Oh my team's playing well, very happy.
Without that, everything is going. It can happen that fast
to Boston. Watch out as Rick Carlisle become your arch
and nemesis. Now you really hate him, you know, you
really love to rail on him wherever possible is.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Even here you were giving a saria where they're up
three to one, and he was still he was crying
and whining.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
No, we're not getting judge.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh now we're winning. Oh yeah, okay, now I feel better.
I'm not gonna talk about the officiating anymore. Oh okay, great, Yeah,
because I gave you a cookie. Here you go, you
little kid got a cookie. No, he's not crying anymore.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Who doesn't get excited when you get a cookie. But
you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Maybe you do, No, you know, not to reward cookies
for bad behavior. I'm not saying I would. I'm just
saying that people. I mean, I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Work here, not quiet. I'm broadcasting. That was a cookie,
not like I'm not the word.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
My wife says, don't give Benny any treats because he
hasn't eating his food. Okay, and then he gives me
those eyes and he stands eyes near his tree tore
and then he scratched it with his paw and he's
got half a big back before I go done. Okay, okay,
I know you're not gonna say anything.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So here you go. Here's a little treat for you.
Here's a little treat for you, and I give it
to me. I know you're not gonna say anything. He's
gonna go rat you out. Well, that's all I know.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
It's not that it's all he did. It's all he'spins
it back out and starts pointing your way. It's not
like I would have done it for Zoey. And so
he goes mom, Dad gave me ice cream when you
said no, no, Benny's not.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Gonna say I still think there were a lot of
clandestine deals back in the deal back in the day
with with Zoe when she was young.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
And Benny bark twice if the nick suck now. Benny's
my guy, just pawing at the dad.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Will you give me?
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Okay, I don't believe all you're good guys. Benny's barking twice.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Exit out, bout of Fresca, exit, swallowing down.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harden
coming up next. Yes, we'll get back into the biggest
story of the night and internet content. I didn't know
I needed today, but I got it. Jason and Mike.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
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