July 22, 2025 • 34 mins
Mike and Chris Plank debate if Micah Parsons should leave the Cowboys after Jerry Jones' weird comments from earlier today
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Greetings and welcome in hour two of the program. That
first hour flu bye, Welcome aboard. We're just getting warmed
up for what is a big week here at Fox
Sports Radio, as we are just ten days away from
the Hall of Fame game Major League Baseball. We're into
the second half and the chaos that ensues just ten
days away from the trade deadline. So is your team
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in or out? Mine's thirty games under five hundred and
they're now scoring runs. I don't know what that means.
Lewis Robert Jr. Will he be a Dodger? Will he
end up somewhere else? I don't know. Bring me more prospects,
more of them more. I'm Mike Carbon alongside me is
Chris Blank. He's in for Jason Smith tonight at Plank
Show where you find him. You hear him Sunday nights
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alongside Arnie Spaniard pops up in and out on the
network as well.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh, I've got the Friday Night shown out too.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I forgot about the Friday Yeah you do follow us
up Friday seam right after. I was so conditioned for
years because of Bernie, right, because I like, you get
the yellow notepad from Arnie ahead, and we all do
when we work with Arnie. I would also get the
Bernie would have some something he wanted to run by me,
usually on a Friday morning. But yeah, Friday Night the
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Plank Show, following our show eleven pm Pacific time, riding
you into the early Saturday morning hours. Boy, how did
that slip my brain? I'm sorry, bunny go what it
means to short you? The lack of sleep is something
that I'm getting used to. But no, it's you've had kids,
you know how that works. I still have an eleven
year old. She's keeping me up like crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Now we're in the summer fun where bedtime is not
supposed to be a thing, right, so it's uh, you know,
we're at ten oh two Central time, and during the
last break I was in a little debate about putting
up the iPad and going to bed in summer. I'm like,
you gotta get conditioned because we're starting up here pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
MinC how long? About how far do you go back?
When you got two three weeks, two weeks, two weeks,
three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Sorry, yeah, you're right, because it's right before the start
of the Everything to me gears around the football season
is figuring out.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Sure, so it's right before the start of the football season.
So we're getting there. I cannot wait. You have no idea.
You love the time with your kids during the summer.
It's great for about three weeks. Then you're ready for
them to go back to school. Count me among that crew. See,
I'm holding on time. I'm in the final throws man.
Next fall, they're both gone.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh really?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So well, one one's finishing up at some juco work
and then is going to transfer getting ready to start
a nursing program.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And then the young one is going to go off
to the East Coast and play some soccer and go
become smarter than me.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
All right, if she isn't already. That's the goal though,
want your kids be smart, No.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's it, and do great things while I try to
entertain and inform America.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Now, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Can they use the word shot and fruits Shoden Freud?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, okay, they're smarter than me.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm sure they've got more in the arsenal that I
don't even want to know about, particularly if you walk
around the Instagram and particularly that TikTok world.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Right, I'm only like a visitor there.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I've been told I shouldn't really post there by the youngins,
and I'm like, but that's where you are.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's how I get you all on my side. Even
though I have that age gap.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
My son makes fun of me, my older son, because
I don't do I don't do TikTok. I do Instagram reels, okay, yeah,
and I just don't.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I kind of do it. I live it.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It's I'm really excited at one am to be able
to scroll and catch up on what I've missed, and
then my kids will make fun of me because their
whole point is, oh yeah, dad, that's what was on
TikTok a week ago. I'm fine with that. I'm okay
being behind the curve a little bit. It's it's what
we're supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
But that's just it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You try to keep a prize so you at least
have an idea of what's that's right through their worlds
and and sometimes you know, the walls have ears where
you'll make a reference to I don't know, a musical
artist or some kind of circumstance and all of a
sudden boom, why am I getting this? My kids must
be watching this, and that's where we're at. So like
right now, we went and saw Paul Simon a week ago.
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I got a lot of random Paul Simon videos and
stuff coming up. It's really been really cool, me and
Julio down by the school yard all day every day.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
It's amazing how the algorithm can get you every commercial
break by just like the rhythm. That's right, the rhythm
is gonna get you, just like every commercial break. I'm
fixing my golf swing because I guess I made the
mistake of watching a golf video too long. Now every
commercial break, Mike Harmon is me finding ways to fix
my golf swing.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
So wish me luck? Is this you trying to be
Scotty Scheffler. I got too much personality. I can't be Scottisheeah?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
We'll yeah, we'll talk about him in about forty minutes.
The fun and exciting, glowing world of a guy who
doesn't want to be part of your shiny world. He's
really a fascinating case study in the greater.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Sports out that we have.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
We'll get into that a little bit later on, because
I find him fascinating and really he's now near and
dear to my heart. Even if golf as a whole
has long passed me by. Maybe maybe once the kids
go to college, I'll pick it up once again. But
a story that I think you you would find really
fascinating as we talk about the wonderful world of nil deals,
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player payments, talent acquisitions and all of these fun things
that are part of the college football, basketball and really
all college sports kind of landscape. Steve Sarkisian coming up,
where we have this twenty million dollar cap through the
revenue sharing, Okay, fine, and then we've got this other
nebulous piece eat that is out here of what some
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clearing house is gonna determine as a fair market value
for player engagement and payments, which is a whole problem
for me.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
How the hell do you decide when I'll go baby
the Deloitte system.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, so like if it's really worth it to my
grandpa that he loved old number seventy five because he
had more pancake blocks than anyone, But you decide offensive
linemen aren't worth what he wants.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's like, who's to decide that, right?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I might not be able to get his ass out
of a chair for more than ten for less than
ten grand You don't know that everybody's got a price,
like Ted Dbias, he taught us all those years ago.
But here's Steve Sarkisian at the Texas High School Coaches Convention. Quote,
somewhere down the road, I don't know if it's tomorrow,
it's next week or next year, but someone's gonna get
punished for going over the cap. I surely don't want
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to be the school gets punished for doing that because
I like coaching, and I like the salary that the
University of Texas pays me to coach. Let's be frank,
And that's where the curiosity of it it becomes. Right,
the bean counting all the way down dollars and cents,
what allocation of that twenty million do you get for
your football program. We saw the split off the public
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records or at least this was circulating for Texas A
and M in terms of some fifty one million dollars
that was split. It was like what ninety seven points
some odd percent men's sports versus the two point whatever
women's sports.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And what have you.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But Sarkisian talking about the recruitment cap, call it like
it is, players are getting paid to go to school.
How much do you allocate to that area in the cap,
and how do you divvy up that money per position
per player? Then there's a current roster, then you've got
to retain players and so on. So trying to figure
out what that proper formula is and those look ahead numbers,
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because how do you try to estimate what a college
CAP's going to increase? By Chris, we have enough trouble
watching NFL and NBA teams go through this process every year.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah, and then what if you're at a place it
gave a little bit more of a percentage to another
sport and hurchin football and quickly you're like, okay, we
got to take that percentage and give it back to football,
even if it's just I say, just one hundred thousand
dollars here or there.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
During Big twelve dy Days, you had Coach Prime take
the podium and say we need a salary cap, and
everyone in the echo chamber said he's right, we need
a salary cap. And then someone got smart and realized, well,
holy yes we have a salary cap. Now that's what
the whole house settlement is. What are you talking about,
Coach Prime. We need a salary cap. We're supposed to
have one, now, don't I don't know if it's going
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to stick. I don't know if it's going to stand.
You already have the and I hate talking court stuff, Mike,
I know you do too, But we already have the
lawyers for the plaintiffs in this that are trying to
re phrase the nil actual regulations.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
See, you got me all wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I love the league, LEAs and business on it to
the point where I will put you to s and
I watched Smith's and I'm gonna make sure to steer
clear of it right now. But no, it also court
because they want to take the nil for just the
sake of nil, right like genuine inile.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
They're already pushing to get that taken out of it.
And that's supposed to.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Be the whole reason why you have inil Go and
why you have Deloitte that's monitoring this whole thing. So
it's gonna be you know, I like sorry, playing the
high in mind. He's like, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna
make sure we're relational, not transactional. Meanwhile, there's a line
of Lamborghinis that are sitting outside of Daryl k Royle
Stadium whenever recruits show up. Sure, buddy, but someone's gonna
get busted. He is right, it's just a matter of
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will you have the power to truly enforce your rules.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Because I'll take it into the the larger, you know,
memorabilia world where I've traversed since I was a kid.
Right when it comes down to people will see for
Baseball Hall of Fame weekend right coming up in Cooperstown,
they always have these huge card convention slash autograph signings
where you got a lot of the players going back
is whoever is physically able to show up. They make
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a lot of their money. Right, Pete Rose Is just
set up a card table and make bank for those
days every year, even though he couldn't put the Hall
of Fame inscription. But for a lot of these guys,
that's a good chunk of their revenue. But what they
had was always this disconnect with people of more recent
inductees who made a ton of money. They're not getting
out of bed for forty dollars or whatever. You know,
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one of the Hall of famers from the seventies can
get because most of the people that wanted their autograph,
well they got it right on the multi sign things,
or maybe they'll come back for another one, but they
can't charge nearly what say a Randy Johnson or a
Roger Clemens or not that he's going into the Hall,
But you get my point. Guys of more recent ilk
who made hundreds of millions of dollars like, all right,
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I'm gonna go there. Yeah, I'm gonna go and do
all that, but I don't want to sit and do
the shaking hands and kissing babies thing. So it's gonna
be two hundred bucks a pop. And then people will complain,
or current players right now when they do autograph sound
I remember Barry Bonds when he was an active player,
asked for sixty bucks. Meanwhile, you had you know some
of the giants legends, they were commanding maybe twenty five
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or thirty.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Dollars an autograph it. He's like, well why is why
is it?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like because he has one hundred million dollar deal, Like
he's making more an interest he could just sit and
play video games. Likewise, with all these nil deals, right,
how do you fairly establish a market? Right? LA versus
New York versus where you are in Oklahoma versus Nebraska?
Ver Like you've got a cost of living? Is that
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going to be taken into account? The drive that might
be twenty miles but takes two hours in LA traffic?
Do they get Does that get accounted for? And at
what rate?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
On?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And so it doesn't you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Like like that's fraught with problems right off the jump,
and in my you know, initial crass example of if
a guy doesn't like doing it. You know, we were
alluded to Scotti Scheffler. How much do you think it
would cost for his him to show up at a
place he wants? There's no part of it right, same
kind of thing. But if if the price is right,
then suddenly it becomes if it's right to that car dealer,
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it's right for that, you know whatever, meet and great day,
show up at this guy's birthday. Yeah, I'm not doing
that for less than twenty grand. Well, if it's worth
the tea, you pay it. But I'm gonna have a
clearinghouse say well, no, you shouldn't be able to get
more than I don't know, fifteen hundred bucks. So what
happens to that other eighteen to five? That kid just
gets screwed, even though he's got a booster who's more
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than willing to do a handshake for twenty grand. But
that's what they're trying to get rid of.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But that's the problem. You're just gonna force all this
back underground, which might be actually is that is that
what we want to do? Or we go back to
the nod and wink.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
That's what some peoples dollars handshakes from back in the
day and now.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
But that's what Sark's saying. If you get caught doing that,
then there's allegedly gonna be hell to pay.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Right, So why not just you know, put it through
and there's the transaction. You may shake your head, but
you know, if the check clear is the check clears?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
But does that not then instantly put everything that everyone
complains about, the power back in the Alabamas and the
Tennessees and the schools, the Auburns that are willing to
push the line a little.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Bit, Like I just I think this is an interesting system. Well,
but I don't think twenty million is gonna be there.
But the other the other part, you're gonna have the disparity.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's a percent of twenty million. Twenty million has got
to be spread across all sports.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No, right, obviously, so it's what whatever percent you decide, right,
and that that's not a lot of money in today's
day and age, as we've seen. But it's that secondary
part that there's always going to be a divide. Sure,
you're right, you're not gonna be able to legislate that.
It's like, all right, the first five guys to get
to the pool, because you're only going to allot you
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so much because these other members of your conference have
nobody step into the like, how are you gonna arbitrarily
decide you know where that that dollar amount is.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
That's the formula. I mean, I I don't know that
I agree with it. I think I'm with you, but
that's the formula. Is they have a form that they
put to the other based on your social media, based
on your recruiting rank, and I guess based on your
production that they would put on that. Where if Mike
Harmon right says, I got this deal with Tyrak, and
they might look at it and say, whoa, they're wanting
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to pay you one hundred thousand dollars, that's fishy.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We got to dig into this a little bit.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
So that's you know this, this is supposed to be
the system, the clearing house that it goes through, that
figures all this out.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And now that's all backed up. So am I.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Supposed to go and buy a bunch of guys before
I begin my recruiting We go and buy a bunch
of followers on all all of these platforms. That'd be
a smart thing to do, right if I'm a sophomore,
right before I know, I'm gonna get have a little
bit of a growth spurt. Oh look at me, I'm
the biggest thing going. I think I think we've seen
that done before.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's not actually a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But that's kind of what you're encouraging at this point. Well,
I'm not me personal, not you I'm saying. I'm saying
the larger, larger entities, Like if that's part of the
formula that they brought with fraud, it's not even funny.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
And then you had Texas Tech do what they did,
which was you have Cody Campbell who's a brilliant man
and he gets all these deals done right before and
it pays millions of dollars before the ref share kicks in,
and then wants to talk about how he wants to
fix everything. It's like, Bro, you just completely skirted and
cheated the system, and now you want to say I'm
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here to fix everything for everybody. But we're it's gonna
be talked about a lot big ten Medy days, It'll
be talked about a ton at acc Meda days because
earlier reviews on this nil go have not been good.
And if it doesn't work, Mike, we're back to the
wild wild West and the name Cody Campbell will do
whatever he can to buy Texas Tech a championship. And
who knows what other big booster there is out there
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that might be willing to front a mass Do you
know any big Northwestern, Mike Harmont, can you buy Northwestern
a national Championship.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Can I get that left? Now?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Here's the problem is they're still going to force you
to go to class. They haven't caught up with the
rest of college football.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Will You're right?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
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Speaker 3 (16:16):
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Me Mike Carmon.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
There's no Jason Smith this week.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
He is off circumnavigating the globe, probably celebrating a Mets win,
maybe eating a sandwich, I don't know. You can find
him at how about a Fresco check in on his whereabouts?
Find me over at Swollen Dome. Find our buddy Chris
Plank in with us this week or today. He'll be
back on Friday night after our show, after I deal
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with Arnie for four hours. Yeah, there you go at
plank Show in another Mets fan. See that's all I
get all the time. At Plank Show, where you find Chris.
You know, we leave no pop culture stone unturned. Today
would have been Don Nottt's one hundredth.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Birthday, So there you go. Don Knotts would have been
one hundred today. What year did he go?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
That's a good question. I'm looking it up as we speak.
It was two thousand and six. Two thousand and six,
so some time ago.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We've got a couple of other pop culture things we'll
touch on as we roll through. But a legend in
his own right ond Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is everybody
reports to Oxnard getting things ready for another big run.
You saw the highlight reel stuff. There's Dak Prescott and
George Pickens and all of this fun and excitement on
the first play. That's all finding good. But what did
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Jerry Jones have to say about his squad and what
he's expecting as camp gets underway.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Just because we've signed him doesn't mean we're going to
have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously,
we've signed I remember signing a player for the highest
paid it's position in the league and he got knocked
out two thirds of the year, Dark Prescott. So there's
a lot of things you can think about, just as
the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
There you go, there's the Micah Parsons of one hundred
billion dollar question right there, and he's right right. He
and Mike Brown both took different tax in talking about
guaranteed moneys and what could happen to you? From Mike
Brown of the Bengals talking about Shamar Stewart and the
language of his contract that keeps him a holdout, he
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went down the avenue of the worst case scenarios of
potential allegations and incarceration and such. For Jerry Jones, it becomes, oh,
you get hit by bus.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't know if I'm gonna have him this year.
I don't know if I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Gonna have him, And then he sideswipes Dafan Prescott in
the same comment. I mean that was the Hey, here's
my combination as I'm sidling up to the pool table
with this one.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So there's Jerry.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
He was also asked about, you know, had he ever
thought about stepping aside from his you know, GM duties
and everything. He started cackling like a madman, said maybe,
you know, little parts of seconds before continuing. But the
Michael Parsons thing is interesting because he has, according to
Jane Slater and others, shown up for camp at Oxnard,
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We'll see how much you get participation or whether he
decides to step away. But history says, eventually, as Jerry
even alluded to himself, eventually he pays them out. Saw
what he did when he went down to Mexico to
find Ezekiel Elliott all those years ago. Precedents has been set.
Players and their agents know they can wait Jerry out.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
What do you make of this philosophy that Jerry's had
where he always ends up paying him. Yeah, and he
always says something stupid. I mean, I was going through
some old notes. Last year was the we got no
urgency to get a CD LAMB deal done, and then
twenty three days later he signed to a four year,
one hundred and thirty six million dollars.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He didn't have it in that moment, and it made
for a good SoundBite.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah, and twenty nineteen Ezekiel Elliott, it's not about I'm
not about to do a deal that would shake the
foundation loose. And then a month later gave him a
six year, ninety million dollar deal. So he says all
this stuff. He's like history where repeats itself and he
ends up paying them in the long run. But it
ends up costing them more because he drags it out.
What do you make of this approach that he has.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
It's bad business, but but some of it becomes the
all right, if I'm not one hundred percent sure I
defended only to that point of if I'm not one
hundred percent sure that I want a guy full time
long term, especially when injuries have already cropped up, no
matter how productive they may be. Right, because you look
at parsons numbers when he plays and what he's meant
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to that defense. But then you take the larger scope
of what your team has done, is it wise to
pay you know, top dollar? I mean, look, I always
talk about my TAP system. It's the patented Mike Harmon tap.
I need a thrower, I need an attacker, and I
need to protect.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Her on that I'm just about to ask you that.
So the TAP system is in. It's like the dentist system.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's it for me, or it call it pat whichever
one you want, protector, attack or thrower. You know, you
go with it what you will. But beyond that then
then I got to start, you know, Parson out my dollars.
So certainly Parsons fits you know what I need as
one of my major three. But I understand sometimes, you know,
the reticence to commit, because we've seen a number of
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other teams where they've committed too early and then all
of a sudden they realize, Wow, now we're really on
the hook. In this case, he waits, and then the
back end is that much worse and the dollar per average,
you know, per year average, and everything goes through the
roof because four or five other guys have been paid
in this case, you know, with TJ. Watt having just
gotten his money, Michael Parsons agents sure as helling coming
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back on, I'm gonna take a lot less than that guy.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Mm hmm, right, and he wants.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Dollar for dollar or a dollar more because it's a
better headline. Michael Parsons is one of the best defensive
players in the NFL. And to your point, I could
not agree more. I love the tap system. I'm adopting
it now.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You need your quarterback, you need your left or right tackle,
probably both right. And you saw a couple of years
ago John Gruden he really invested in the right or
didn't really invest in the right tackle, and everyone had
like the lane Johnson's of the world and others. I
mean even prior to him, Trent Brown, but is left tackle.
You know, you got a right handed quarterback. But the
attacker doesn't have to be Oh it's got to be
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an ed rusher, or it's got to be a defensive tackle.
It can just be the position that is the best
player on your defense. And right now, boy, Jerry's waiting
three years, one hundred and twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
That was the deal for That was a deal for J. TJ. Watt.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
You had Max Crosby get paid. You had Miles Garrett
get paid. Remember Miles Garrett wanted a trade. He's like
trade mate, and the next thing you know, he gets paid.
It just keeps driving that dollar up and up and up.
So it's gonna get done, right, It's eventually gonna get done.
But now you've got to that number has gone. The
only person didn't really go up was Max Crosby. Like
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his was thirty five point five. Daniel Hunter's deal with
the Texans thirty five point six, Miles Scarett forty mil TJ.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Watt pre season forty one meal. It's gonna be a.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Lot of your salary cap and taking care of the
guy whenever you're already a little bit wonky on that
number for the Cowboys. Anyway, now we know Michah Parsons
did take to social media a little bit earlier because
he liked and reposted a take from future Hall of
Famer JJ Watt. We talk about TJ. Let's talk about
his brother quote.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Anytime you can publicly take a dig at your star
quarterback and your star pass rusher simultaneously right before the
season begins, you just gotta take it dot dot dot.
Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than
hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while
fighting for you. Boy, if ever, there was a need
for the sarcasm font, like I always joke here in
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the Fox Sports Radio studio, we're all pretty adept at
it doing what we do, there's some level of snark
and cynicism. No matter how many positive twists we can
take to stories, there's some snarkiness that comes through about
my sarcasm bucket and how its level of done this
over the course of a four hour JJ Watt would
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have needed to take that out and dump that and
just reset from start, because every word of that just
gets the tone tenor and verbiage is just a masterclass
right there and just waving at Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I know we're up against it for the Seger's update. Yeah,
but is it doing damage to the Cowboys with this approach?
Earning you're out from Jerry to where they get paid
and everyone smiles, but you remember the process to get
there and what he said.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Is it affecting No? I think in the end, you
make your decision.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Look, Jerry's very loyal to his stars, particularly if he
feels like he found you right and even if he
takes the side swipe the dock, you know, the next
time he gets an opportunity to throw flowers in his
general direction, he's going to tell you that he's one
of the greatest throwers of the football.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I can't I can't believe. I don't have like a
four minute clip of him or even ai Jerry talking
about some of those darts to George Pickens practice today, right, like, Oh,
that's Dak, that's the guy we paid, that's my guy, right,
because I mean again, look what he did with Ezekiel Elliott.
He went down and found him in Mexico to bring
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him back and get him paid.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
So you know he he will do that.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You know, he does that tough love thing and eventually
writes out the giant novelty check like he's at the
end of a game show.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So you know it's good.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
You just have to wait him out. It's just a
matter of time. Now, how does that affect everything else? Well,
it leaves a fewer dollars to spend elsewhere, that's for
damn sure.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
But you don't think it does long term damage. You
don't think these guys keep in the back of their
mind the fight they had to go through to get it.
They're getting paid and then the bag deal like once
once you get the second one. I mean, if you're
still playing at the level high enough to go get
a monster third the then great. But I think Jerry
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has shown it. It may be a painful process, but
eventually you're gonna get your dollars. So if you're anywhere
near the level that you are now, and even that,
what are you seventy eighty percent he's not going and
finding the next shiny object. If he has a guy
that he thinks can play, because that's still his guy,
he doesn't let him out the door. Yeah, that's just
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been his history. For better or for worse. And certainly
I know plenty of Cowboys fans. My ex wife's dad,
we still exchange texts every year. It's like, we're not
winning a damn thing until this guy has gone. And
I know exactly what he means by that, and I'm
not going there. I'm Joe positivity here, but he ain't
leaving that. Steven or whoever else isn't coming over the
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top to make decisions for him.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
So you just got to ride the lightning. Look, I'm
a Chicago guy. What do you think I've been waiting
for all the positivity and feel good? Yeah, they won
the off season and then rewarded Ryan Poles before they
won a damn game.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
How do you think I feel? That's still wild to me?
Still wild to me? I mean, was he was he
in the contract year?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Two years left? Makes no sense. Dumbest thing I've seen. Well, actually,
there's plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
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The sounds such more bearable when you use the Pacific
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through that, because I know you do some work in
the morning. You get a nap into the kids, you know,
keep you from doing that? Like, how does that work?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
There is a lot of caffeine, But there's If I
can get a good four hour nap after the show,
I'm good for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
So that's that's been the key. If I get four
hours after the show, I'm good to go. All right. Well,
well let me know because I got a good purveyor
of coffee.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Oh really, Yeah see, you know my great purveyor is
he's called Folgers, and I just pour it in and
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We did get a cool tweet going back to hour
one that you'll have to appreciate. This is from Adam quote.
Why should I be worried about the Dodgers? They won
the World Series last year? When was the last time?
How about a frescos Mets won anything. He's not even
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here and he's catching strays. I love it.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Do you buy into the I think?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
The Bill Simmons theory where once you want a title,
you can't really complain about anything for like five years.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Well there is some of that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, look, in most cases, even if you get
towards the ultimate goal, that usually buys you a couple
of extra years where maybe it shouldn't or everything went
your way before people realize, hey, you know that was odd,
that was crazy. So certainly we have that one guy
who's not up to hyperbole and trying to be held
(29:30):
up as the pinnacle of any profession or of any
world is our guy, Scotti Scheffler, who wins once again
at the Open and his dominance has continued. Right the
comparisons to Tiger Woods and his epic run are out there,
Scheffler kind of waving it off. Go look, he's at last.
My I counted, he's at fifteen to four. So let's
(29:53):
not be doing that. Obviously I'm paraphrasing, but a guy
who what has been interesting. And the way I wrote
it and just my quick notes was the subtitle was
the obsession we have with his not being obsessed. It
was a week ago where head of the Open, he
was fielding questions about his recent run and play and
(30:15):
what it means, and he talked about how, you know
he'll have that moment, that quiet moment, you know, bring
tears to his eyes thinking of the work that he's
done and everything that has led to what he's able
to do on the greens. And then once it's done,
here's a trophy, here's a picture, We're done with this.
There were a couple of great memes that came out
(30:36):
of Sunday's event, you know, with the kid looking like,
all right, I've done this before I'm done, what's next?
Isn't this where we normally go to lunch or whatever
the case may be. But folks have had a real
issue with Scheffler's and stance here, and even last week
Smith and I talking about a little bit, you know
where you're trying to reconcile it, right, like we love
(30:58):
our wonderful world of sports talk radio. But once we're done,
I think we all have a moment of all right,
did I do well?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
What have I done?
Speaker 6 (31:07):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You still may have family members that say, do you
why are you going to get a real job? All
of those things? Maybe you still have that, Chris, I
know I certainly do. Even my grandmother, a lover, passed
away a couple of years ago, but for about the
first five years that I was doing media stuff, would
still keep buying me, you know, all the extras, like
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I couldn't afford a shirt and.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Tie, so all that. Let's hear from Scottie Scheffler on
his place in history here.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
I mean, I still think they're a bit silly, you know,
Tiger one, what fifteen majors, it's my fourth could just
got one fourth of the way there, so just I mean,
it's I think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf.
You know, he was inspirational for me growing up, and
he was a very, very talented guy, and he was
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a special person to be able to be as good
as he was at the game of golf. And I
don't focus on that kind of stuff. That's not what
motivates me. I'm not not motivated by winning championships. And
I don't look at the beginning of the year and
just say, hey, I want to win X amount of tournaments.
I want to win you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I have a treat.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So there you go, kind of talking about the larger scale,
the dreams of what he gets from it, and I
have to respect it. I have to appreciate it, right,
you know, we compartmentalize, like we all go through things
outside of the walls wherever we work that it only
comes in as much as you allow it to. And
in this case, he comes in, he compartmentalizes, he dominates,
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and then he goes on to whatever it is, that
greater spiritual plane or whatever he's yearning to find. And
you know, it's it's a space that I wish I
could cancel the noise in my head, as he clearly
has found some aptitude in doing.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I'm very envious of a dude that can hit the
ball that well, strike it as smooth as he does,
and then say, yeah, I want a tournament. Doesn't really
matter to me.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It's like, what what do you tell you? Just sports?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
My personal favorite meme that I saw from this week
was Emo Scheffler where they had put the you know,
the hair that did kind of come down and gave
a little lip ring. Because he does it sounds like
a guy that is very happy with his lot in life.
But golf isn't who he is, right, It's what he does,
it's not who he is. And I appreciate it, right.
(33:25):
I think it's pretty cool and I'm envious of it,
and I wish I could have that approach, because damn.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
He can just fly.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
He can flat out smoke it, and he's hitting the
ball so well right now. Just that little bit, maybe
this is a little bit more of that personality coming
out that might make him more relatable.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I just golf is in a weird spot right now
because Tiger was so dominant and overbearing that we're still
kind of reeling from it. Every so often you'll get
a Rory run like we did the Masters, or you'll
get a Phil run.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
But he's the best player in the game right now, Mike,
and it's not even close.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
But even look at Rory after he can pleaded the
career Grand Slam and made the admission of I'm finding
it hard week to week to be motivated. He got
killed for and I'm like, I can understand where you're at.
You had this tremendous feat and now it's just another tournament.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
What's next? Right?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
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first hour flu bye, Welcome aboard. We're just getting warmed
up for what is a big week here at Fox
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the second half and the chaos that ensues just ten
days away from the trade deadline. So is your team
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in or out? Mine's thirty games under five hundred and
they're now scoring runs. I don't know what that means.
Lewis Robert Jr. Will he be a Dodger? Will he
end up somewhere else? I don't know. Bring me more prospects,
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alongside Arnie Spaniard pops up in and out on the
network as well.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Oh, I've got the Friday Night shown out too.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I forgot about the Friday Yeah you do follow us
up Friday seam right after. I was so conditioned for
years because of Bernie, right, because I like, you get
the yellow notepad from Arnie ahead, and we all do
when we work with Arnie. I would also get the
Bernie would have some something he wanted to run by me,
usually on a Friday morning. But yeah, Friday Night the
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Plank Show, following our show eleven pm Pacific time, riding
you into the early Saturday morning hours. Boy, how did
that slip my brain? I'm sorry, bunny go what it
means to short you? The lack of sleep is something
that I'm getting used to. But no, it's you've had kids,
you know how that works. I still have an eleven
year old. She's keeping me up like crazy.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Now we're in the summer fun where bedtime is not
supposed to be a thing, right, so it's uh, you know,
we're at ten oh two Central time, and during the
last break I was in a little debate about putting
up the iPad and going to bed in summer. I'm like,
you gotta get conditioned because we're starting up here pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
MinC how long? About how far do you go back?
When you got two three weeks, two weeks, two weeks,
three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Sorry, yeah, you're right, because it's right before the start
of the Everything to me gears around the football season
is figuring out.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Sure, so it's right before the start of the football season.
So we're getting there. I cannot wait. You have no idea.
You love the time with your kids during the summer.
It's great for about three weeks. Then you're ready for
them to go back to school. Count me among that crew. See,
I'm holding on time. I'm in the final throws man.
Next fall, they're both gone.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh really?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So well, one one's finishing up at some juco work
and then is going to transfer getting ready to start
a nursing program.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
And then the young one is going to go off
to the East Coast and play some soccer and go
become smarter than me.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
All right, if she isn't already. That's the goal though,
want your kids be smart, No.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's it, and do great things while I try to
entertain and inform America.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Now, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Can they use the word shot and fruits Shoden Freud?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, okay, they're smarter than me.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm sure they've got more in the arsenal that I
don't even want to know about, particularly if you walk
around the Instagram and particularly that TikTok world.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Right, I'm only like a visitor there.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I've been told I shouldn't really post there by the youngins,
and I'm like, but that's where you are.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's how I get you all on my side. Even
though I have that age gap.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
My son makes fun of me, my older son, because
I don't do I don't do TikTok. I do Instagram reels, okay, yeah,
and I just don't.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I kind of do it. I live it.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
It's I'm really excited at one am to be able
to scroll and catch up on what I've missed, and
then my kids will make fun of me because their
whole point is, oh yeah, dad, that's what was on
TikTok a week ago. I'm fine with that. I'm okay
being behind the curve a little bit. It's it's what
we're supposed to do.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
But that's just it.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You try to keep a prize so you at least
have an idea of what's that's right through their worlds
and and sometimes you know, the walls have ears where
you'll make a reference to I don't know, a musical
artist or some kind of circumstance and all of a
sudden boom, why am I getting this? My kids must
be watching this, and that's where we're at. So like
right now, we went and saw Paul Simon a week ago.
(04:28):
I got a lot of random Paul Simon videos and
stuff coming up. It's really been really cool, me and
Julio down by the school yard all day every day.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
It's amazing how the algorithm can get you every commercial
break by just like the rhythm. That's right, the rhythm
is gonna get you, just like every commercial break. I'm
fixing my golf swing because I guess I made the
mistake of watching a golf video too long. Now every
commercial break, Mike Harmon is me finding ways to fix
my golf swing.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
So wish me luck? Is this you trying to be
Scotty Scheffler. I got too much personality. I can't be Scottisheeah?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
We'll yeah, we'll talk about him in about forty minutes.
The fun and exciting, glowing world of a guy who
doesn't want to be part of your shiny world. He's
really a fascinating case study in the greater.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Sports out that we have.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
We'll get into that a little bit later on, because
I find him fascinating and really he's now near and
dear to my heart. Even if golf as a whole
has long passed me by. Maybe maybe once the kids
go to college, I'll pick it up once again. But
a story that I think you you would find really
fascinating as we talk about the wonderful world of nil deals,
(05:39):
player payments, talent acquisitions and all of these fun things
that are part of the college football, basketball and really
all college sports kind of landscape. Steve Sarkisian coming up,
where we have this twenty million dollar cap through the
revenue sharing, Okay, fine, and then we've got this other
nebulous piece eat that is out here of what some
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clearing house is gonna determine as a fair market value
for player engagement and payments, which is a whole problem
for me.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
How the hell do you decide when I'll go baby
the Deloitte system.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, so like if it's really worth it to my
grandpa that he loved old number seventy five because he
had more pancake blocks than anyone, But you decide offensive
linemen aren't worth what he wants.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's like, who's to decide that, right?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I might not be able to get his ass out
of a chair for more than ten for less than
ten grand You don't know that everybody's got a price,
like Ted Dbias, he taught us all those years ago.
But here's Steve Sarkisian at the Texas High School Coaches Convention. Quote,
somewhere down the road, I don't know if it's tomorrow,
it's next week or next year, but someone's gonna get
punished for going over the cap. I surely don't want
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to be the school gets punished for doing that because
I like coaching, and I like the salary that the
University of Texas pays me to coach. Let's be frank,
And that's where the curiosity of it it becomes. Right,
the bean counting all the way down dollars and cents,
what allocation of that twenty million do you get for
your football program. We saw the split off the public
(07:14):
records or at least this was circulating for Texas A
and M in terms of some fifty one million dollars
that was split. It was like what ninety seven points
some odd percent men's sports versus the two point whatever
women's sports.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And what have you.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
But Sarkisian talking about the recruitment cap, call it like
it is, players are getting paid to go to school.
How much do you allocate to that area in the cap,
and how do you divvy up that money per position
per player? Then there's a current roster, then you've got
to retain players and so on. So trying to figure
out what that proper formula is and those look ahead numbers,
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because how do you try to estimate what a college
CAP's going to increase? By Chris, we have enough trouble
watching NFL and NBA teams go through this process every year.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah, and then what if you're at a place it
gave a little bit more of a percentage to another
sport and hurchin football and quickly you're like, okay, we
got to take that percentage and give it back to football,
even if it's just I say, just one hundred thousand
dollars here or there.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
During Big twelve dy Days, you had Coach Prime take
the podium and say we need a salary cap, and
everyone in the echo chamber said he's right, we need
a salary cap. And then someone got smart and realized, well,
holy yes we have a salary cap. Now that's what
the whole house settlement is. What are you talking about,
Coach Prime. We need a salary cap. We're supposed to
have one, now, don't I don't know if it's going
(08:38):
to stick. I don't know if it's going to stand.
You already have the and I hate talking court stuff, Mike,
I know you do too, But we already have the
lawyers for the plaintiffs in this that are trying to
re phrase the nil actual regulations.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
See, you got me all wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I love the league, LEAs and business on it to
the point where I will put you to s and
I watched Smith's and I'm gonna make sure to steer
clear of it right now. But no, it also court
because they want to take the nil for just the
sake of nil, right like genuine inile.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
They're already pushing to get that taken out of it.
And that's supposed to.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Be the whole reason why you have inil Go and
why you have Deloitte that's monitoring this whole thing. So
it's gonna be you know, I like sorry, playing the
high in mind. He's like, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna
make sure we're relational, not transactional. Meanwhile, there's a line
of Lamborghinis that are sitting outside of Daryl k Royle
Stadium whenever recruits show up. Sure, buddy, but someone's gonna
get busted. He is right, it's just a matter of
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will you have the power to truly enforce your rules.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Because I'll take it into the the larger, you know,
memorabilia world where I've traversed since I was a kid.
Right when it comes down to people will see for
Baseball Hall of Fame weekend right coming up in Cooperstown,
they always have these huge card convention slash autograph signings
where you got a lot of the players going back
is whoever is physically able to show up. They make
(10:02):
a lot of their money. Right, Pete Rose Is just
set up a card table and make bank for those
days every year, even though he couldn't put the Hall
of Fame inscription. But for a lot of these guys,
that's a good chunk of their revenue. But what they
had was always this disconnect with people of more recent
inductees who made a ton of money. They're not getting
out of bed for forty dollars or whatever. You know,
(10:26):
one of the Hall of famers from the seventies can
get because most of the people that wanted their autograph,
well they got it right on the multi sign things,
or maybe they'll come back for another one, but they
can't charge nearly what say a Randy Johnson or a
Roger Clemens or not that he's going into the Hall,
But you get my point. Guys of more recent ilk
who made hundreds of millions of dollars like, all right,
(10:47):
I'm gonna go there. Yeah, I'm gonna go and do
all that, but I don't want to sit and do
the shaking hands and kissing babies thing. So it's gonna
be two hundred bucks a pop. And then people will complain,
or current players right now when they do autograph sound
I remember Barry Bonds when he was an active player,
asked for sixty bucks. Meanwhile, you had you know some
of the giants legends, they were commanding maybe twenty five
(11:09):
or thirty.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Dollars an autograph it. He's like, well why is why
is it?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like because he has one hundred million dollar deal, Like
he's making more an interest he could just sit and
play video games. Likewise, with all these nil deals, right,
how do you fairly establish a market? Right? LA versus
New York versus where you are in Oklahoma versus Nebraska?
Ver Like you've got a cost of living? Is that
(11:32):
going to be taken into account? The drive that might
be twenty miles but takes two hours in LA traffic?
Do they get Does that get accounted for? And at
what rate?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
On?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
And so it doesn't you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Like like that's fraught with problems right off the jump,
and in my you know, initial crass example of if
a guy doesn't like doing it. You know, we were
alluded to Scotti Scheffler. How much do you think it
would cost for his him to show up at a
place he wants? There's no part of it right, same
kind of thing. But if if the price is right,
then suddenly it becomes if it's right to that car dealer,
(12:08):
it's right for that, you know whatever, meet and great day,
show up at this guy's birthday. Yeah, I'm not doing
that for less than twenty grand. Well, if it's worth
the tea, you pay it. But I'm gonna have a
clearinghouse say well, no, you shouldn't be able to get
more than I don't know, fifteen hundred bucks. So what
happens to that other eighteen to five? That kid just
gets screwed, even though he's got a booster who's more
(12:28):
than willing to do a handshake for twenty grand. But
that's what they're trying to get rid of.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But that's the problem. You're just gonna force all this
back underground, which might be actually is that is that
what we want to do? Or we go back to
the nod and wink.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
That's what some peoples dollars handshakes from back in the
day and now.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
But that's what Sark's saying. If you get caught doing that,
then there's allegedly gonna be hell to pay.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Right, So why not just you know, put it through
and there's the transaction. You may shake your head, but
you know, if the check clear is the check clears?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
But does that not then instantly put everything that everyone
complains about, the power back in the Alabamas and the
Tennessees and the schools, the Auburns that are willing to
push the line a little.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Bit, Like I just I think this is an interesting system. Well,
but I don't think twenty million is gonna be there.
But the other the other part, you're gonna have the disparity.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's a percent of twenty million. Twenty million has got
to be spread across all sports.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No, right, obviously, so it's what whatever percent you decide, right,
and that that's not a lot of money in today's
day and age, as we've seen. But it's that secondary
part that there's always going to be a divide. Sure,
you're right, you're not gonna be able to legislate that.
It's like, all right, the first five guys to get
to the pool, because you're only going to allot you
(13:44):
so much because these other members of your conference have
nobody step into the like, how are you gonna arbitrarily
decide you know where that that dollar amount is.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
That's the formula. I mean, I I don't know that
I agree with it. I think I'm with you, but
that's the formula. Is they have a form that they
put to the other based on your social media, based
on your recruiting rank, and I guess based on your
production that they would put on that. Where if Mike
Harmon right says, I got this deal with Tyrak, and
they might look at it and say, whoa, they're wanting
(14:15):
to pay you one hundred thousand dollars, that's fishy.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We got to dig into this a little bit.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
So that's you know this, this is supposed to be
the system, the clearing house that it goes through, that
figures all this out.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
And now that's all backed up. So am I.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Supposed to go and buy a bunch of guys before
I begin my recruiting We go and buy a bunch
of followers on all all of these platforms. That'd be
a smart thing to do, right if I'm a sophomore,
right before I know, I'm gonna get have a little
bit of a growth spurt. Oh look at me, I'm
the biggest thing going. I think I think we've seen
that done before.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's not actually a bad idea.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But that's kind of what you're encouraging at this point. Well,
I'm not me personal, not you I'm saying. I'm saying
the larger, larger entities, Like if that's part of the
formula that they brought with fraud, it's not even funny.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
And then you had Texas Tech do what they did,
which was you have Cody Campbell who's a brilliant man
and he gets all these deals done right before and
it pays millions of dollars before the ref share kicks in,
and then wants to talk about how he wants to
fix everything. It's like, Bro, you just completely skirted and
cheated the system, and now you want to say I'm
(15:26):
here to fix everything for everybody. But we're it's gonna
be talked about a lot big ten Medy days, It'll
be talked about a ton at acc Meda days because
earlier reviews on this nil go have not been good.
And if it doesn't work, Mike, we're back to the
wild wild West and the name Cody Campbell will do
whatever he can to buy Texas Tech a championship. And
who knows what other big booster there is out there
(15:49):
that might be willing to front a mass Do you
know any big Northwestern, Mike Harmont, can you buy Northwestern
a national Championship.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Can I get that left? Now?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Here's the problem is they're still going to force you
to go to class. They haven't caught up with the
rest of college football.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Will You're right?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Carmon.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
There's no Jason Smith this week.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
He is off circumnavigating the globe, probably celebrating a Mets win,
maybe eating a sandwich, I don't know. You can find
him at how about a Fresco check in on his whereabouts?
Find me over at Swollen Dome. Find our buddy Chris
Plank in with us this week or today. He'll be
back on Friday night after our show, after I deal
(16:42):
with Arnie for four hours. Yeah, there you go at
plank Show in another Mets fan. See that's all I
get all the time. At Plank Show, where you find Chris.
You know, we leave no pop culture stone unturned. Today
would have been Don Nottt's one hundredth.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Birthday, So there you go. Don Knotts would have been
one hundred today. What year did he go?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
That's a good question. I'm looking it up as we speak.
It was two thousand and six. Two thousand and six,
so some time ago.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
But there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
We've got a couple of other pop culture things we'll
touch on as we roll through. But a legend in
his own right ond Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is everybody
reports to Oxnard getting things ready for another big run.
You saw the highlight reel stuff. There's Dak Prescott and
George Pickens and all of this fun and excitement on
the first play. That's all finding good. But what did
(17:36):
Jerry Jones have to say about his squad and what
he's expecting as camp gets underway.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Just because we've signed him doesn't mean we're going to
have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously,
we've signed I remember signing a player for the highest
paid it's position in the league and he got knocked
out two thirds of the year, Dark Prescott. So there's
a lot of things you can think about, just as
the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
There you go, there's the Micah Parsons of one hundred
billion dollar question right there, and he's right right. He
and Mike Brown both took different tax in talking about
guaranteed moneys and what could happen to you? From Mike
Brown of the Bengals talking about Shamar Stewart and the
language of his contract that keeps him a holdout, he
(18:26):
went down the avenue of the worst case scenarios of
potential allegations and incarceration and such. For Jerry Jones, it becomes, oh,
you get hit by bus.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't know if I'm gonna have him this year.
I don't know if I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Gonna have him, And then he sideswipes Dafan Prescott in
the same comment. I mean that was the Hey, here's
my combination as I'm sidling up to the pool table
with this one.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So there's Jerry.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
He was also asked about, you know, had he ever
thought about stepping aside from his you know, GM duties
and everything. He started cackling like a madman, said maybe,
you know, little parts of seconds before continuing. But the
Michael Parsons thing is interesting because he has, according to
Jane Slater and others, shown up for camp at Oxnard,
(19:13):
We'll see how much you get participation or whether he
decides to step away. But history says, eventually, as Jerry
even alluded to himself, eventually he pays them out. Saw
what he did when he went down to Mexico to
find Ezekiel Elliott all those years ago. Precedents has been set.
Players and their agents know they can wait Jerry out.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
What do you make of this philosophy that Jerry's had
where he always ends up paying him. Yeah, and he
always says something stupid. I mean, I was going through
some old notes. Last year was the we got no
urgency to get a CD LAMB deal done, and then
twenty three days later he signed to a four year,
one hundred and thirty six million dollars.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He didn't have it in that moment, and it made
for a good SoundBite.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah, and twenty nineteen Ezekiel Elliott, it's not about I'm
not about to do a deal that would shake the
foundation loose. And then a month later gave him a
six year, ninety million dollar deal. So he says all
this stuff. He's like history where repeats itself and he
ends up paying them in the long run. But it
ends up costing them more because he drags it out.
What do you make of this approach that he has.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
It's bad business, but but some of it becomes the
all right, if I'm not one hundred percent sure I
defended only to that point of if I'm not one
hundred percent sure that I want a guy full time
long term, especially when injuries have already cropped up, no
matter how productive they may be. Right, because you look
at parsons numbers when he plays and what he's meant
(20:36):
to that defense. But then you take the larger scope
of what your team has done, is it wise to
pay you know, top dollar? I mean, look, I always
talk about my TAP system. It's the patented Mike Harmon tap.
I need a thrower, I need an attacker, and I
need to protect.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Her on that I'm just about to ask you that.
So the TAP system is in. It's like the dentist system.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's it for me, or it call it pat whichever
one you want, protector, attack or thrower. You know, you
go with it what you will. But beyond that then
then I got to start, you know, Parson out my dollars.
So certainly Parsons fits you know what I need as
one of my major three. But I understand sometimes, you know,
the reticence to commit, because we've seen a number of
(21:19):
other teams where they've committed too early and then all
of a sudden they realize, Wow, now we're really on
the hook. In this case, he waits, and then the
back end is that much worse and the dollar per average,
you know, per year average, and everything goes through the
roof because four or five other guys have been paid
in this case, you know, with TJ. Watt having just
gotten his money, Michael Parsons agents sure as helling coming
(21:43):
back on, I'm gonna take a lot less than that guy.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Mm hmm, right, and he wants.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Dollar for dollar or a dollar more because it's a
better headline. Michael Parsons is one of the best defensive
players in the NFL. And to your point, I could
not agree more. I love the tap system. I'm adopting
it now.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
You need your quarterback, you need your left or right tackle,
probably both right. And you saw a couple of years
ago John Gruden he really invested in the right or
didn't really invest in the right tackle, and everyone had
like the lane Johnson's of the world and others. I
mean even prior to him, Trent Brown, but is left tackle.
You know, you got a right handed quarterback. But the
attacker doesn't have to be Oh it's got to be
(22:21):
an ed rusher, or it's got to be a defensive tackle.
It can just be the position that is the best
player on your defense. And right now, boy, Jerry's waiting
three years, one hundred and twenty three million dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
That was the deal for That was a deal for J. TJ. Watt.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
You had Max Crosby get paid. You had Miles Garrett
get paid. Remember Miles Garrett wanted a trade. He's like
trade mate, and the next thing you know, he gets paid.
It just keeps driving that dollar up and up and up.
So it's gonna get done, right, It's eventually gonna get done.
But now you've got to that number has gone. The
only person didn't really go up was Max Crosby. Like
(22:58):
his was thirty five point five. Daniel Hunter's deal with
the Texans thirty five point six, Miles Scarett forty mil TJ.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Watt pre season forty one meal. It's gonna be a.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Lot of your salary cap and taking care of the
guy whenever you're already a little bit wonky on that
number for the Cowboys. Anyway, now we know Michah Parsons
did take to social media a little bit earlier because
he liked and reposted a take from future Hall of
Famer JJ Watt. We talk about TJ. Let's talk about
his brother quote.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Anytime you can publicly take a dig at your star
quarterback and your star pass rusher simultaneously right before the
season begins, you just gotta take it dot dot dot.
Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than
hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while
fighting for you. Boy, if ever, there was a need
for the sarcasm font, like I always joke here in
(23:47):
the Fox Sports Radio studio, we're all pretty adept at
it doing what we do, there's some level of snark
and cynicism. No matter how many positive twists we can
take to stories, there's some snarkiness that comes through about
my sarcasm bucket and how its level of done this
over the course of a four hour JJ Watt would
(24:07):
have needed to take that out and dump that and
just reset from start, because every word of that just
gets the tone tenor and verbiage is just a masterclass
right there and just waving at Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
I know we're up against it for the Seger's update. Yeah,
but is it doing damage to the Cowboys with this approach?
Earning you're out from Jerry to where they get paid
and everyone smiles, but you remember the process to get
there and what he said.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Is it affecting No? I think in the end, you
make your decision.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Look, Jerry's very loyal to his stars, particularly if he
feels like he found you right and even if he
takes the side swipe the dock, you know, the next
time he gets an opportunity to throw flowers in his
general direction, he's going to tell you that he's one
of the greatest throwers of the football.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I can't I can't believe. I don't have like a
four minute clip of him or even ai Jerry talking
about some of those darts to George Pickens practice today, right, like, Oh,
that's Dak, that's the guy we paid, that's my guy, right,
because I mean again, look what he did with Ezekiel Elliott.
He went down and found him in Mexico to bring
(25:17):
him back and get him paid.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
So you know he he will do that.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You know, he does that tough love thing and eventually
writes out the giant novelty check like he's at the
end of a game show.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So you know it's good.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
You just have to wait him out. It's just a
matter of time. Now, how does that affect everything else? Well,
it leaves a fewer dollars to spend elsewhere, that's for
damn sure.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
But you don't think it does long term damage. You
don't think these guys keep in the back of their
mind the fight they had to go through to get it.
They're getting paid and then the bag deal like once
once you get the second one. I mean, if you're
still playing at the level high enough to go get
a monster third the then great. But I think Jerry
(26:00):
has shown it. It may be a painful process, but
eventually you're gonna get your dollars. So if you're anywhere
near the level that you are now, and even that,
what are you seventy eighty percent he's not going and
finding the next shiny object. If he has a guy
that he thinks can play, because that's still his guy,
he doesn't let him out the door. Yeah, that's just
(26:21):
been his history. For better or for worse. And certainly
I know plenty of Cowboys fans. My ex wife's dad,
we still exchange texts every year. It's like, we're not
winning a damn thing until this guy has gone. And
I know exactly what he means by that, and I'm
not going there. I'm Joe positivity here, but he ain't
leaving that. Steven or whoever else isn't coming over the
(26:44):
top to make decisions for him.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
So you just got to ride the lightning. Look, I'm
a Chicago guy. What do you think I've been waiting
for all the positivity and feel good? Yeah, they won
the off season and then rewarded Ryan Poles before they
won a damn game.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
How do you think I feel? That's still wild to me?
Still wild to me? I mean, was he was he
in the contract year?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Two years left? Makes no sense. Dumbest thing I've seen. Well, actually,
there's plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Because that's what we do.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
We leave no stone unturned, celebrating pop culture at every opportunity.
This time, christ Sports music, theater, film, you name it,
we'll talk about it here. The Jason Smith Show with Me,
Mike Harmon, No, Jason Smith tonight. Chris blank in his
(27:40):
stead in with us tonight. He'll follow our show on
Friday night eleven till two Saturday morning. That's Pacific time
The sounds such more bearable when you use the Pacific
time zone. No, I'm gonna do that because I think
it makes you feel a little more spry. How much
caffeine you got to you gotta do to get get
(28:00):
through that, because I know you do some work in
the morning. You get a nap into the kids, you know,
keep you from doing that? Like, how does that work?
Speaker 5 (28:08):
There is a lot of caffeine, But there's If I
can get a good four hour nap after the show,
I'm good for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
So that's that's been the key. If I get four
hours after the show, I'm good to go. All right. Well,
well let me know because I got a good purveyor
of coffee.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Oh really, Yeah see, you know my great purveyor is
he's called Folgers, and I just pour it in and
drink it.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, I'm gonna elevate you. I'll just need a mailing address.
Just send it my way. We'll take care of you.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
There you go at Plank Show where you find and
find me over at Swollen Dome of course at Fox
Sports Radio if you have anything you want to fire in.
We did get a cool tweet going back to hour
one that you'll have to appreciate. This is from Adam quote.
Why should I be worried about the Dodgers? They won
the World Series last year? When was the last time?
How about a frescos Mets won anything. He's not even
(28:56):
here and he's catching strays. I love it.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Do you buy into the I think?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This?
Speaker 5 (29:01):
The Bill Simmons theory where once you want a title,
you can't really complain about anything for like five years.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Well there is some of that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, look, in most cases, even if you get
towards the ultimate goal, that usually buys you a couple
of extra years where maybe it shouldn't or everything went
your way before people realize, hey, you know that was odd,
that was crazy. So certainly we have that one guy
who's not up to hyperbole and trying to be held
(29:30):
up as the pinnacle of any profession or of any
world is our guy, Scotti Scheffler, who wins once again
at the Open and his dominance has continued. Right the
comparisons to Tiger Woods and his epic run are out there,
Scheffler kind of waving it off. Go look, he's at last.
My I counted, he's at fifteen to four. So let's
(29:53):
not be doing that. Obviously I'm paraphrasing, but a guy
who what has been interesting. And the way I wrote
it and just my quick notes was the subtitle was
the obsession we have with his not being obsessed. It
was a week ago where head of the Open, he
was fielding questions about his recent run and play and
(30:15):
what it means, and he talked about how, you know
he'll have that moment, that quiet moment, you know, bring
tears to his eyes thinking of the work that he's
done and everything that has led to what he's able
to do on the greens. And then once it's done,
here's a trophy, here's a picture, We're done with this.
There were a couple of great memes that came out
(30:36):
of Sunday's event, you know, with the kid looking like,
all right, I've done this before I'm done, what's next?
Isn't this where we normally go to lunch or whatever
the case may be. But folks have had a real
issue with Scheffler's and stance here, and even last week
Smith and I talking about a little bit, you know
where you're trying to reconcile it, right, like we love
(30:58):
our wonderful world of sports talk radio. But once we're done,
I think we all have a moment of all right,
did I do well?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
What have I done?
Speaker 6 (31:07):
What was it?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
You still may have family members that say, do you
why are you going to get a real job? All
of those things? Maybe you still have that, Chris, I
know I certainly do. Even my grandmother, a lover, passed
away a couple of years ago, but for about the
first five years that I was doing media stuff, would
still keep buying me, you know, all the extras, like
(31:29):
I couldn't afford a shirt and.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Tie, so all that. Let's hear from Scottie Scheffler on
his place in history here.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
I mean, I still think they're a bit silly, you know,
Tiger one, what fifteen majors, it's my fourth could just
got one fourth of the way there, so just I mean,
it's I think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf.
You know, he was inspirational for me growing up, and
he was a very, very talented guy, and he was
(31:56):
a special person to be able to be as good
as he was at the game of golf. And I
don't focus on that kind of stuff. That's not what
motivates me. I'm not not motivated by winning championships. And
I don't look at the beginning of the year and
just say, hey, I want to win X amount of tournaments.
I want to win you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I have a treat.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So there you go, kind of talking about the larger scale,
the dreams of what he gets from it, and I
have to respect it. I have to appreciate it, right,
you know, we compartmentalize, like we all go through things
outside of the walls wherever we work that it only
comes in as much as you allow it to. And
in this case, he comes in, he compartmentalizes, he dominates,
(32:37):
and then he goes on to whatever it is, that
greater spiritual plane or whatever he's yearning to find. And
you know, it's it's a space that I wish I
could cancel the noise in my head, as he clearly
has found some aptitude in doing.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I'm very envious of a dude that can hit the
ball that well, strike it as smooth as he does,
and then say, yeah, I want a tournament. Doesn't really
matter to me.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It's like, what what do you tell you? Just sports?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
My personal favorite meme that I saw from this week
was Emo Scheffler where they had put the you know,
the hair that did kind of come down and gave
a little lip ring. Because he does it sounds like
a guy that is very happy with his lot in life.
But golf isn't who he is, right, It's what he does,
it's not who he is. And I appreciate it, right.
(33:25):
I think it's pretty cool and I'm envious of it,
and I wish I could have that approach, because damn.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
He can just fly.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
He can flat out smoke it, and he's hitting the
ball so well right now. Just that little bit, maybe
this is a little bit more of that personality coming
out that might make him more relatable.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I just golf is in a weird spot right now
because Tiger was so dominant and overbearing that we're still
kind of reeling from it. Every so often you'll get
a Rory run like we did the Masters, or you'll
get a Phil run.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
But he's the best player in the game right now, Mike,
and it's not even close.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
But even look at Rory after he can pleaded the
career Grand Slam and made the admission of I'm finding
it hard week to week to be motivated. He got
killed for and I'm like, I can understand where you're at.
You had this tremendous feat and now it's just another tournament.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
What's next? Right?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
What is next in that process? No question about it. Hey,
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