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February 13, 2025 41 mins

On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason Smith and Mike Harmon kick off the hour by reacting to 3B Alex Bregman signing a three-year deal with the Red Sox. Next, NFL Hall of Fame voter Jason Cole joins the show to talk about everything NFL! Finally, the guys discuss Joe Burrow’s willingness to restructure his contract to help the Bengals keep their biggest playmakers. Don’t miss all this and more in Hour 2!

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Speaker 3 (00:58):
It right now.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
By first, a little bit more on that Travis Kelcey
conversation that we were having a few minutes ago about
how today went on his podcast and said, yeah, I'm
gonna take some time to decide what i want to
do if I want to come back and play next year.
As you know, I'm setting myself up for what I
want to do after. It's a big conversation just a
week ago. A week ago it was I want to

(01:20):
play football another three years. I feel great. I love
coming to work every day. I got a lot of
good football left in me. So yeah, it's contract oriented.
He's coming into the last year of his deal. You know,
he it's a two and a half million dollar dead
cap hit. If they cut him, he's doue eleven million
dollars the beginning of the of the NFL calendar year.
So yeah, he's thinking contract and I want a new deal.

(01:43):
I want to maximize more out of the NFL. Continue
to be this multifaceted personality, NFL superstar, commercial pitch man,
big podcast star, Taylor Swiths boyfriend. It's got it all
going on. Man's got it all going on. You get
a lot of time to not play football. So yeah,
it's contract oriented. Now the flip side of it is

(02:04):
to say, well what if, and you mentioned a little
bit a few minutes ago, is that what if the
Chiefs are looking to move on from Travis kelcey and
in if he played a different position, I would say yes.
If he was a wide receiver, if he was a
high paid wide receiver, and he wasn't quite the same guy.
If he was a running back, wasn't quite the same guy.

(02:26):
Defensive end, a lockdown corner, wasn't the same guy. I'd understand.
But even though as advancing age, you know, being thirty five,
thirty six, as we said, he's still a top five
or top six tight end in the NFL, you want
to move on from Travis kelcey. Okay, he's not quite
what he was, you know. Yeah, of course you'd want
Sam Laporta over him. You'd want brock Bowers over him.

(02:48):
You're not getting those guys, Like if you're the Chiefs,
who are you getting the upgrade there?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
So I don't I don't buy the whole.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Hey, the Chiefs might want to move on just because
it's not a position where he can easily upgrade from.
We're gonna drive Ti ward, Yeah, good luck, good luck,
He'll be long gone by the time you come. You
come to draft, I know, are you really going to
start trading draft picks. We'll have to draft high ward.
So I just don't see where where it's on the
Chiefs that are saying, hey, we kind of want to
move on from you. Different position that was, that was

(03:15):
that's easier to get better at. Hey, there's wide receivers
out there you could go get. There's running backs out there.
Go tight end is really difficult, man, And again when
you were still a periphery top five, top six guy
in the NFL. Yeah, this to me, I think it's contract.
I think you start going to see new talk about
a new deal with Travis kelcey and going on, because
simply you don't go from I'm so excited. I want

(03:37):
to play football for three years too. Oh we lost
the Super Bowl, so now I don't want to come
back again. Really, you lost a game, you don't want
to come back your entire your entire career arc what
you want to do. Then your next three to five
year plan of your life changed because you lost the Eagles.
I don't buy it.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah, currently under contracts, I guess he's a little lower
in the rankings than I would have thought based on
his current deal. So that's fine. But in terms of
who you want in front of him, Dallas Goddard, who
we we've talked to, Hockinson, w W E. Fisionado, George Kittle,
even though he's got his injury issues. I don't know

(04:14):
if you actually use cole comet, that could be fun.
Just keep going out.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You're not getting any of those guys you're getting, You're
not getting the guys that But.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
My point is he's not a top five guy. He's
a guy that occasionally has a big game. And look
at we we talked about.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I thought that man, he's kind of periphery, top five,
top six, He's he's still that good. He's still had
ninety four catches this year. He's still in a big year.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I'm talking impact game to game. I didn't see it
the same way. And and I'll agree to disagree in
terms of how bad is it look the tight end. No,
but it's also it's also a position that that falls
off pretty fast.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
That's how the tight end position is terrible. So I
mean it's like, you know, being a top five tops
is not like being he's not like he's a number
five wide receiver in the NFL. You know, being the
top five tight end, there's not a lot of guys
out there that are really good when it comes to
being a tight end. There there's the guys that are
far that are ahead of him that you're gonna get there,
you know, Bowers and McBride and Kittle, Right, and then

(05:15):
you get to the point where, okay, you know you're
really gonna take John hu Smith over him.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
All right, he had a big year this year, but
it's John Hu Smith.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Then you have then you have this point if I
get to if he gets to go work with Patrick Mahomes, yes,
yes I would, dude.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
He's still He's still he still had a big year.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
It just it's not that he's not the Travis kelcey
where it's twelve catches for one hundred and forty four
yards to two touchdowns every week. He's not that guy.
But then again, there's no John Smith wasn't that guy
this year. Travis Kelsey had more yard receiving than he did. So,
I mean it's not like it's not like it's there's
all these other guys were having these great uh seasons
last year. Yeah, but the point was you call them.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
But the point was you give me Patrick Mahomes as
the guy that's finding him in space.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
I'll take my chances as opposed to quarterback.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
All of that to say, the whole point is just
getting back to the deal where you've got a nineteen
million dollar hit and Mahomes is making real money now
and you have some real substantive things you need to
do with your roster. So in terms of the chief
side of it, I would want to see if I
couldn't bring down a little dollar cost averaging, incentivize some

(06:21):
things and say, hey, I love you, stick around, but
you know, here's what we need to do for you know, team,
And I'll be standing there with a baseball bat the
whole time. I know it switches sports and brings us
some classic movies in, but you know, a couple of
Monster games against Tampa Bay and Las Vegas. You know
there's twenty four catches Monster games, and he had a

(06:43):
few of those. I'm not saying he's done by any
stretch any means, but it's also the you know a
little bit of leverage play, a little bit also of
if you go sad sack, maybe you get a little
bit less heat for the drops and for a virtual
note show in the super Bowl, because right now someone's
gotta wear it, and they're only gonna kill Patrick Mahomes

(07:06):
so much. And when you have the convenient excuse of
I mean, we got some feedback already in the in
the Twitter verse, just in our our little you know, talking.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
About it here. Uh, some of those people don't watch
driving Taylor Swift around anymore. She's making him soft, soft
in the belly, soft in his game.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
The game back.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I don't know, they've all went back and looked at
the stats of the last few years ago. That's where he
dropped off right there, That's where he dropped off, right
you see right there.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
He was terrific.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
He was fourteen hundred yards a year. He was the
best fight out in the NFL. And then he started
Dayton Taylor Swift. And now I'm going back to Rocky
when Mickey said women weaken legs, right, it's it's some
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I mean he only had one.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
We had two, well three big yardage games on the year,
an eighty nine against the Chargers and ninety against the Raiders,
and then the one hundred yard game is only one
of the year against Denver, and then the season finale
he had eighty four yards against Pittsburgh, So we'll give
him the nod there. Otherwise you got a lot of twenties,
a lot of thirties, a couple of single digit receptions.

(08:09):
It's all of that to say that, you know, as
you go forward, you're trying to figure out what the
next iteration of this offense is because you know, I'm
not one to say, you know, it wasn't exciting. I mean,
it's winning football, but you'd like to win a little
more comfortably like you did once upon a time. Right, So,
Rishie Rece will come back. You've got Xavier Worthy and

(08:31):
those two guys alone might be just enough to allow
him to dance through the middle of the defense like
it's a kid in a spring flower bed.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Whatever. Noah Gray on the other side, you like that image?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
How do you like that?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
That's an AI image.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
That's for an ad right there, Travis Kelcey and they
got Noah Gray had forty catches. He didn't get dapped
up by Patrick Mahomes on the sideline. So I don't
know what any of that meant. No, yeah, I don't
really know what's going on there. But all of that
to say, you know, he's still like, yeah, i'd still
put him in the top ten. You know, he's still

(09:05):
a guy that gets after it, still a name, still
moves the needle, and as we talk about on the show,
perhaps a little more than others, it is, after all,
still a business and you know what he's good for business.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon, Live from the
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up in about ten minutes. But this news justin and
it's big news out of Major League Baseball. The last
of the great free agents now has a home. Alex Bregman,
formerly of the Houston Astros, has finally landed that coveted

(09:43):
free agent deal. It was gonna re sign with the Astros'
gonna go to the Red Sox, maybe the Blue Jays.
Now to the back to the Astros, to the Red Sox,
back to the Astros, to the Blue Jays. He is
now officially a member of the Boston Red Sox. According
to ESPN, he has agreed to a three year, one
hundred and twenty million dollars deal with the Red Sox

(10:03):
on Wednesday night. The forty million dollars that he got
is ten million more per year than the other teams
were offering. He all does have a couple of opt
outs as well, So hey, you know what, look if
I if I'm even, if I'm suddenly I'm better at
thirty one, I can opt out.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Now this is a this is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And look and I love this deal because A the
Red Sox needed something to juice their roster and to
juice their fan base, because, boy, the Red Sox on
in the last five years, it's been what the hell
has happened to them? Like they own the interest level.
We talk about the decline of the bulls, Like the
Red Sox own the aughts and the teens and how
great they were and sustaining this level of excellence and

(10:42):
now suddenly it's boy, they're not good and they're not
spending money. And what happened, right, Like what happened to
the Red Sox. They needed a signing like this to
really juice the team and the fan base. And it's
a good contract for them, it's a good contract for
Alex Pregnant. Right, forty million dollars is a lot of money,
but it's a three year deal. It's only a three
year deal. So if Alex Bregman stinks, look, the guy's

(11:02):
a gold glove third baseman.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
You know he's gonna hit.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Even if the deal is a okay, you're only in
it for two years after this, right, It's not like
you went after and you gave him two hundred and
fifty million dollars for seven years and you're saying, man,
this is the back half of this deal is gonna
look like Miguel Cabrera. So even though it's a lot
of money for Alex Bregman, it's a three year deal,
and I think that's kind of what we have to
start looking at with baseball contracts. Now Boy, there's a

(11:27):
lot of money for this guy. If it's a shorter deal,
it really doesn't matter. As I always say, i'll overpay
guys for a short amount of time every single year.
As long as you're not a starting pitcher, I will
overpay you for a short amount of time for any
position you play because I need to be able to
get out of it if you stink, and if you're good,
we can keep doing this, right, we keep the game going.
You're making a lot of money next couple of years.

(11:48):
We keep the game going. But I need a flexibility
because the number one responsibilit is to the team to
make sure that we can pivot and move on from
bad contracts.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I'll give you what you want for two or three years,
but you want five or six years, you gotta go.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
So world great farm system. Got trade with the Socks.
You Buehler Chapman, Now you get this. There's some reports
that he had turned down a six year deal elsewhere.
This one from Jeff passing ten million more per year
than the others were offering. You have the opt outs,
deferred money, all of those buzzwords that we get around

(12:22):
baseball here. But you know, definitely needed a little extra
juice in the lineup. You want to get steal some
headlines away from the the Yankees, although all they're doing
is whining so they can have those Those guys said
we were terrible in the World Series. So yeah, you
got that going for you. But for Bregman consistency, I'll

(12:42):
Tuvey back in January. I'll do anything I have to
to keep him here. Evidently you didn't do him much there.
You didn't get the job done. But yeah, I love
the opt outs, go bet on yourself, take a giant
pile of cash up front, get the extra you know,
aav over what was being offered, and then just say
all right, let's go ball out, let's go win some games,

(13:04):
and I can go back into the marketplace and earn
myself some more money.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
I love the bet.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now the other thing of this, and this is really intriguing,
right because now what have we seen from the Yankees
the past few weeks. They were in it on for
Nolan Arenado, right, talk about golglove third basement that doesn't
quite hit like he used to. They were in it
for Aronado. And now it's really cooled over the past,
over the past couple of weeks, at the point where

(13:29):
it doesn't like it's gonna happen. Aaron Boone and said
the other day, Hey, we're gonna try Djay let mey
you out there again.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
It see he can be j let me you.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Talk about things Yankee fans don't want to hear. But
now you wonder, hey, when the Red Sox do something
that forces the Yankees to do something, And I really
wonder if now they'll re engage on Aronado. Going, Okay,
we just watched the Red Sox pay a lot of
money for Alex Bregman. We might be able to get
a guy that is close and we wouldn't have to

(13:59):
give up.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's it's not gonna be a price that we can
pay that's too high. And maybe he can he starts
hitting again, you know, back who knows how it could go.
But this is how it works with the Yankees, at
least how it had been for a long time. Is
that when other teams do stuff, the Yankees always respond.
They responded after the Mets assigned Juan Soto, they went
on a spending spree like lunatics, and they signed four

(14:20):
guys the next five days. We don't care if they're
proven guys. We'll give him a lot of money. We
got to move on from our ex. So now here's
the Red Sox, who go out and get and and
and go get the best third.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Basement out there.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I wonder if the Yankees start re engaging for Nolan
Aronado soon, watch out a.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Lot of it.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Yeah, because yesterday a bunch of reports from the Boston
Globe that the Red Sox were we're nearing a possible
deal to bring Aronado in. Hey man, you know you
got dhs. You can always work things out and decide, hey,
we can get this guy beat it. We've got a
good farm system. Let's trade a couple of those pieces off.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Either way.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
If it forces activity by the Blue Jays, by the Yankees,
the teams in the Al East, where it's already gonna
be hyper competitive with the Orioles on their next run, here,
maybe some better, more consistent work from Rushman to go
with everybody. Yeah, I'm all for it. Good for business,
right start stealing some of those headlines away, because I mean,

(15:14):
right now, JJ Redick and the Lakers need all the
help they can get from the negative headlines and the
derision you're about to pour upon them, telling.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Me man Lakers record up through game one of the
Luca Era thirty two and nineteen, first place in the Pacific.
Since JJ Reddick may or may not have sparked a
war and started a feud with me, the Lakers are
getting drubbed by the Jazz one twenty five to one
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(15:43):
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the way coming up next we'll talk to Jason Cole.
Oh yeah, coming off the big Hall of Fame vote
from last week, we take a look at the leftover
storylines from the Super Bowl. Does he think Travis Kelcey
is gonna hang them up? Is Jalen Hurts now one
of the big elite superstar quarterbacks of the NFL as
he joined that very small brotherhood all of you, Aaron Rodgers. Yes,

(16:07):
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(18:07):
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What's happening, buddy?

Speaker 6 (18:32):
All right? So Hall of Fame, let's just clarify this.
We only put in four guys this year and you're
still calling it the Hall is very good? What's what's
the deal? What's the well? Listen, this is no this
is I think we did everything to rap no no,
no no no no no no no no. We raised

(18:53):
the standards, you know, like you've been asking for, made
it harder to get in, and it's still hallow very
good or whatever thing you're saying.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Right, Oh, like you've never heard that before.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I don't understand that this Hall of Very Good is.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
All you did you haven't heard fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
From All you did was keep Eli Manning out.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's all you did.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
That say, hey, look we're just keeping Eli out. Yeah,
that's how that's how we're calling it the Hall of
Fame keeping him out.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Are you arguing that he deserved to go in?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I thought Eli should have gone in.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yep, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I mean because I don't. I don't like that that
everybody said, oh, look at Eli, and look at the
regular season, look at it, and then yeah, but you know,
we had two big runs in the in the in
the playoffs, Like no, no, that's a really big part.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's a really big part of it. And I don't
like that.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
The the the argument against it focused on that we're
going to diminish the super Bowl. Really, you're gonna diminish it.
You can diminish the Super Bowls. You're diminishing to twice
super Bowl champion winning quarterback.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
For two percent of the votes on my Belt, which
is like twenty percent below was the minimum standard of
a first ballot guy would be survey the people who
played in the NFL, the people who coached in the NFL,
the people who are in the Hall of Fame already,
the people who are executives in the NFL. Looked at

(20:21):
Eli Manning, it said, men. But that was their reaction.
You know, okay, but no, you know better than them.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
But they looked at Drew Pearson and said, oh no, no, no,
absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
There was groveling and begging to get Drew Pearson. And
it's just despicable getting Drew Pearson to the table. And
you know, and you know Eli's getting in, you know way,
you know, it took Drew Pearson like forty years to
get in. It's not taking Eli Manning's forty years to

(21:00):
get in. To just stop yourself, yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
I mean, just like Alan and Sharp.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
And then eventually we start clamoring for Luke Keighley. I mean,
there's a lot of guys that we're going to be
waiting on.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
It's okay, Luke Keickley has there's a legitimate argument from
people are like Luke Kickley was the best player on
this ballot. There's a legitimate argument from people who supporting
Marshall Ganda. That guy had the best resume on that
ballot by far, I didn't get in. That's the way
it goes. There's probably nine or ten guys who were

(21:32):
legitimately Hall of Famers, and then there's another three or
four guys who are arguable about whether they should be
in the Hall of Fame. That's how I looked at that.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Balid Ja Cole.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I just need more guys with panthers logos on their helmets.
So Cam Newton just feels, you know, some some responsibility
or problem with the fact that he did actually play
with a bunch of Hall of famers.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
Wheah where where he played with Steve Smith. Steve Smith's
going to be the Hall of Tame. Don't worry, camp
can go. Can't continue whining all he once dude.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
That's my favorite story of the week.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Like I would keep the MVP because I did it,
Like like nobody blocked for him, nobody caught past I did.
I won the MVP. What a great teammate he must
have been. I mean, really, I keep going back to Boyd.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
What a great team the kind of guy who will
dive on the ground to protect your chances to win
a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Oh that's the best.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
It's funny because it's true.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
All right, what all that said in the aftermath of
this Super Bowl just gone by Travis Kelcey Now a
little wishy washy after being all bullish on playing for
multiple years just to contract employer, Maybe more introspective after
a game like that, I make.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
A little more introspective. He's gotten you know, you feeling great,
You're thinking about three in a row, You're energized, and
then all of a sudden, you know, just because you know,
and you're you're done by the by the second quarter
in that game. You know, you're probably not feeling all
jazzed up about football right at the moment. You know,

(23:16):
And look, he's got a lot of other things going
on in his life, so he could walk away and
nobody's you know, nobody should complain if the guy walked
away right now. I mean, he's still got some football
left in him, but he was he wasn't in great
football shape to begin this year because he spent so
much of last off season, you know, gallivanting around the globe,

(23:37):
which you know, I'm not I'm not blaming him for that,
but he's got other things in his life, you know,
for the you know, a girlfriend who's kind of powerful
and kind of famous. You know, I'm kind of rich.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
But Jay Colt last week he said, I want to
play another three years. I love coming to work every day.
I feel great.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
I have a lot of good football lessons. And then
they got their butts kicked in. Okay, and then it
wasn't that much fun, all right. It was you know, like,
this is what happens to athletes. They have reactions after
things like this, and they're capricious human beings. Okay, welcome
to Kelsey's world. He's a capricious guy, and so he

(24:19):
may change his mind now. I hope he continues to
play because I think he's a really good player. I
hope he keeps himself in a little bit better shape
this offseason so he's ready to play right from the
start of the year. But he was good enough at
the end of the year that he was a huge
factor for them, right, and he did what they were
asking him to do, and Andy Reid didn't complain. And

(24:40):
the fact is that, you know, the Chiefs got some
other things they got to really fix beyond just whether
Travis Kelcey comes back. Yeah, they could use him and
they'll land, but you better get somebody who can block
on the outside, and you better get somebody who's better
than Juwan Taylor, who cheats on every single play, Like,
you know, that's just got to stop. Man, They've moved

(25:02):
to one Taylor to the right guard or just move
them off the team or whatever, because I mean it's ridiculous.
And you know, Tony, God bless him. He played is
you know, it's hard out this year, but he ain't
a left tackle. It's petty close. It's ridiculous. And the
fact that they got to a super Bowl with a
line that was that bad, it's just a testimony to

(25:25):
the work that Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes combined, the
kind of week after week play calling and sort of
game shrinking, like let's just keep it close to the vest.
We know we can't play wide open, we know we
can't drop back five and seven steps at any time
and protect Mahomes. So we just got to play a

(25:46):
little ball. And they played a little ball all the
way until they couldn't do it anymore and they finally
got you know, got crushed. So if Kelsea comes back,
they're fine. If he doesn't come back, I think they're
still fine. As long as they fixed the offensive tackles.
That's more important than whether Kelsea plays or off.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Jason call our guest, the Jason Smizer with Mike Carbon
live from the Tirack dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
All right, so so looking back at the.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Side now for Jalen Hurts, who all of a sudden
coming into the game, Jalen Hurts was no good.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Now Jalen Hurts wins Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
You know, we had the conversation a couple of weeks
ago about the true elite, true great quarterbacks in the
NFL that make their teammates better and win games single handedly.
Did Jalen Hurts jump into that small list of players
for you after the game on Sunday?

Speaker 6 (26:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
No, No, three times?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Okay, can can you elaborate or this is radio calaborate
on that? Oh?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
You gave him but yes, no question, he took the out.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Yeah, I gave you three knows. He had a terrific game.
He had maybe the best game of his life. You
have to do that more than one time to get
into that group, right, You have to be more consistent
than that, and I like Jalen Hurts. It's just said
during the season, you can win a super Bowl with
Jalen Hurts. You might be able to win a couple

(27:11):
because of all the talent around him. Okay, but look,
I think it's fair to say that aside from maybe
Jared Goff and maybe a healthy forty nine Ers team
last year or the beginning of this last season before
everybody you know got hurt, Like, I don't know that
there's another team that has more talent around the quarterback.

(27:34):
So his job. I'm not saying that makes his job easy,
but between that offensive line and the weapons that they
have on the outside, Dallas Goddard and Shay one part
we get in two thousand yards like he's not tested
that often, and so I don't you know, I don't
think he's a truly elite quarterback, but he fits for

(27:57):
what they're trying to do, and you can winchampionships with
him and probably maybe even multiple championships with him, so
you know, enjoy it. He may you know, if he
puts it together and has more games like this and
a couple more seasons like this where he wins the
Super Bowl, you might be talking about a Hall of
Fame quarterback. You know he's got that in him. But

(28:18):
I trust him week to week to make all the throws.
He's just not He's he's a little bit too erratic
as a thrower, and I think he gets you know,
I don't think he's the greatest decision maker in the
world week in and week out. But God, he played
great on Sunday. I mean, he was fabulous on Sunday.
I give it. I give him all the credit in

(28:39):
the world, but you guy to do it more often
than just that game.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
And now he gets to go after it with another
offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore long destined to be that guy
in New Orleans that shrine those prayers, finally answer it
as he takes the job over under on wins is
what five and a half.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
It might be a little high. That's a that's a teardown, man,
but that's a serious teardown all the way, all the
way to the studs. I don't like. I would love
to know what he said to get that job, and

(29:19):
if he flexed his muscles and said, look, we got
about three or four really good players who are you know,
like Cam Jordan's you know, towards the end of his career.
We got some guys, you know, Derek Carr. We might
be able to move him to another team, but we
really got to tear this thing all the way down
and start all over and probably have to wait not

(29:40):
just this year, but their following year and maybe another
year for arch Mann. I feel like mar arch Man, Like,
I'm just see everybody thinks that arch Man is going
to be in next year draft. Like both you and

(30:00):
Peyton played all through their senior year. Like, why is
Archkin all of a sudden like just come out early,
especially after he's played only one full season. I mean,
I know the guy's super talent, but they believe in
a guy as a family, as an institution, as a
quarterback factory. They believe in getting a full college ride

(30:25):
of throws, you know, and getting a thousand throws at
that level and getting yourself ready. I think it's gonna
be two more years before he comes out. I just like,
this year is not the year to take a quarterback.
I just don't think it worse.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
It is not.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
This is when because here's what's going to happen. The
Jets are going to have the worst record in the NFL.
Everybody's going to be great, and it's going to be
twenty years later where another Manning says, Now I'm going
back to school for another year. Good luck.

Speaker 7 (30:55):
Sorry about that, guys. He's on Twitter at Jason Calls
sixty two. That's at Jason Gold sixty two, as he
sings when he's round up. Check him out, thirty thirteen

(31:18):
Hall of Fame Pro Football voter.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
All right, it's time to say goodbye.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
See you, buddy.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
You got him down in song land by saying that.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, no, I bet you.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
His wife says to him, why do you walk around
singing that song all the time? I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
He bought the full catalog of Riders in the Sky albums.

Speaker 8 (31:38):
Jason, is that a snake in your boot?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Is that I sent him the I saw a video
of the behind the scenes with the Riders in the
Sky from their recording of that song all those years ago.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
That's not a snake in my but Time to find
out what's trending right now in the wide world sports
Martin Wait has it all right?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Now? What you got MMed up?

Speaker 9 (32:03):
What I got right now is a furious Steve Kerk.
I mean I saw him.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
He's like the new Mick Cronin where every game it's like, now,
what's he mad at?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
This time? He's mad at something. He's really really mad.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
This season, especially Jason, he's been mad.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
He just seems like he's fired up, yelling at folks.

Speaker 9 (32:19):
He got a technical foul Draymond Green getting between him
and the officials. So that's how you know things are
falling off the rails.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
I think also wearing the really terrible uniforms helped, yes,
because those are awful. They look like old Nicks or
Pistons uniforms.

Speaker 8 (32:35):
They are awful.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
But you know what, Mike, you know the number one
thing that bugs me about this clip as I'm watching
Steve kurryell why Steve Kirk dressed like a middle school
gym teacher.

Speaker 8 (32:43):
Why can't we go back to ties? Why can't we
go back to shirts and ties?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Have that?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
No, we are in a casual era now in this country,
and I love the casual era.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
I think everybody should look like George Raveling myself.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
Listen, if you want to do radio casual, that's one thing.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
Coach basketball put on some Tom Ford's all right anyway, somebody.

Speaker 8 (33:04):
To be able to ford a ton of tom for
that's Alex Bregman.

Speaker 9 (33:07):
He just agreed to a three or one hundred and
twenty million dollars deal with the Bofton Red Sox.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
He played third base over there.

Speaker 9 (33:13):
That forty million dollars average annual value ties him with
Aaron Judge for the Forest Heights in baseball, so soto
O Tany and Zach Wheeler the other three this show
to show you how sports are crazy. That's also the
same deal that Brandon Ingram just signed. Although Bregman has
player opt outs for each of the three years, Brandon
Ingram only has one for the last season. But this

(33:33):
goes three years on hundred twenty million. Not made equal
across sports. Steve Kerr again heated during this Dallas Mavericks
Golden State Warriors game. Dallas right now with a ninety
one to eighty two lead with about nine minutes left
in the fourth quarter. Jimmy Butler with fourteen points, seven
assists and seven rebounds, and he just actually just made
a got a rebound and a put back right there.

(33:55):
So Kyrie Irving with thirty points and six rebounds at
the half. The Clippers lead the Grizzlies sixty six to
sixty three.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
You know, sometimes, marn't we do an update.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think that's that's the game that Martin Weiss has
an in game wager on.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
He's got an inmart. I just saw the layup right there.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I needed that layup, big assist right here. I got
that right now. It's good.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Now, it's good.

Speaker 8 (34:17):
Yeah, you're not off, You're not off.

Speaker 9 (34:19):
I already lost my bet today, which was the Pacers
against the Wizards.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
They lost enough.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
They won in overtime by four against the lowly Wizards.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
The line was nine. So there you go. Martin Weiss.
Off to a great start tonight.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 8 (34:32):
It's all good.

Speaker 9 (34:33):
I did better than the Miami Heat, though, because they
were outscored thirty two to eight in the fourth quarter.
On the way to way one fifteen to one hundred
and one Oklahoma City thunder win. Shake Gilgess Alexander had
thirty two points and nine assists. The Knicks beat the
Hawks in overtime, one forty nine to one forty eight.
Defense optional Karl Anthony Towns had forty four points and
ten rebounds. Trey Young added thirty eight points and nineteen assists. Yeah,

(34:56):
they people did play some defense in this game. I
promise Lakers fall to one and one in the Luka
Doncic era are also the Jj Reddick versus Jason Smith era.
In a one thirty one to one nineteen loss to
the Utah Jazz Lebron James had eighteen points, six rebound,
seven assists. Luka Doncic sixteen point, four assists, four rebounds
in twenty three minutes of action. Scouring the postgame press

(35:18):
conference to see I have any more mention of Jason Smith.
Seventeen seventy eight, UH free agent guard Markel Fulter agreed
to a deal to join the Sacramento Kings. Canada beat
Sweden the first game of the four nations faced off
four to three. In college basketball, Villanova upset nineth rank
to Saint John's seventy three to seventy one.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Back to you guys, thanks a much, markin appreciate it, buddy.
The Jason Smiths are the Mike Harmon live from the
Tirack dot Com studios. Coming up next, right, we had
to have the big news of Alex Bregman earlier this hour.
But straight ahead, do we have a quarterback story for
you someone says I'm willing to take less money next
year to sign big players.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Does this mean he's gonna be with a team long term?
That's next?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Radio Jason to Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Got more NBA look back at the
Lakers huge forty point win over the Jazz unless it
wasn't h coming up a little bit, but today a
really fun story out of the NFL. Joe Burrow does

(36:35):
an interview on a podcast and he says that, hey,
he likes the way the Eagles built their team, and
he is willing to deferm money and move money around
and convert money to a signing bonus if it helps
the Bengals keep their big playmakers like Jamar Chason t Higgins,
who is a number one receiver basically anywhere else but
on the Bengals not and maybe he's going to go

(36:55):
someplace else this offseason. But Burrow said, yeah, whatever we
need to do, we can move my mind. Not gonna
take less money, but we can move my money around
to make it easier.

Speaker 10 (37:05):
Take a listen, you could convert some of the money
to a signing bonus, okay, will lower the cap hit.
You can push some of the money to the back
end of the contract that lowers the cap hit, and
then when you get to the back end of the
contract you can restructure it and convert it to a
signing bonus.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
You understand the cap, I mean not really kind of,
because we.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Don't think that it exists way more than we do.

Speaker 10 (37:28):
Well, definitely, some teams seem to make it feel that way.

Speaker 9 (37:33):
Yeah yeah, I mean I have just pretended it doesn't
exist for.

Speaker 10 (37:36):
A while, and the Eagles are paying everybody. Yeah yeah,
so it seems like the way whatever they're doing, all.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Right, So look I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I love the fact that Burrow really seems to understand
the business of the salary cap, the business of moving
money around, Like not many guys talk about that, but
he's he's okay doing it, and he seems like, hey,
I'm really in on this right, And there's two takeaways
from this one. It's great leadership, it's a smart belief.
I love it. He's in depth, he's detailed his explanation.

(38:08):
It's what you want from your quarterback. He wants to win.
He knows my best way of winning and ten to
be a star is to have these great receivers play
with me. Right, whether it's Jamar Chase t Higgins, he
knows that that's a great thing. However, again, not many
players say stuff like this out loud. Let's move money around.

(38:29):
No one says, hey, I'm gonna move money around and
we're going to find it. No, it's usually something that
happens and a team says it, Hey, they're able to
free up some money because so and so converted their
money to a signing bonus. No one goes public with it.
So I ask you, why does Joe Burrow go public
with this? Because this is a huge test for Cincinnati

(38:50):
to prove they are committed to building a winner or
in three years at the end of his contract, he'll
go and he'll be the most sought after free agent
quarterback in years in the NFL. Because here Cincinnati is tough. Right.
I talked about the air of good feeling for Cincinnati
when Burrow got there.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
He is that good.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
He's proven to be that good, one of the top
five quarterbacks in the league, no matter what kind of
metric you want to go. But if they don't prove
that they're gonna go out and spend money and stay good,
he's gonna leave. He'll do the rest of his contract,
and then he'll leave and he'll be He'll hit free
agency at thirty thirty one, and suddenly everybody's gonna fall
over themselves to go sign him. He's gonna go to

(39:30):
a winner, a team that's gonna spend money, that's committed
to building a winner. This is a huge test for
the Bengals to say, Okay, let's see you spend some
money now so we can stay a really good team.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
No, it's a really good job of going and evangelizing
to the masses. Teach me like I'm a five year old, right,
because he says I know enough, right, He got a
couple of examples in but kind of like, hey, there
are supposed to be smarter people in the room, and
then kind of stares and does his best rock eyebrow
raise thinking about Duke tob and they get about Mike

(40:02):
Brown and thinking about you know, Zach Taylor and company
coming in evangelizing to what they need to do. Look,
they've got four or five guys that they need to
figure out what the hell they're doing in terms of
contracts to try to keep them around, t Higgins being
at the top of them. Hendrickson another one right in.
One of the best defensive players you've got rolling, Do

(40:23):
you need to find some help for him? So yeah,
it's the let's call out what the Eagles do. Let's
call out what I was waiting for the Rams. I
was waiting for him to start going all right, and
the forty nine ers and the Rams and start just
enumerting all the teams that have been crafty and forward
thinking on these things, because clearly the Bengals have not
remember part of the Oakland A's and Moneyball of hey,

(40:47):
I want the money on the field.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
They're kind of the same way right now, unless they're not.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
We got more football and the big story out of
Major League Baseball tonight coming up next right here, Jason
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