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🎙️ Hour 2 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!

The guys open the hour by breaking down Arch Manning’s performance in the loss to Ohio State and discussing what Bill Belichick still doesn’t quite understand about college football. Later, NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame selector Jason Cole joins the show with Week 1 of the NFL right around the corner. Plus, former Browns QB Johnny Manziel makes waves by letting everyone know how he really feels about the Browns. All that and more in Hour 2 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!

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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith Show
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dot edu. That's UMGC dot edu. So last night, while

(00:54):
while you are out having fun and doing all kinds
of crazy ass stuff, oh yeah, Bill Belichick was getting
his butt kick. Oh I watched some down You know
what if you had just watched the first drive and
then turn it off and said, wow, this is gonna
be awesome, you would turn on to see the final
score and go wow. Not how I thought that was
gonna be the first half not terrible, I don't know,
twenty to seven then twenty seven cent. Yeah, but you

(01:15):
can make arguments.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
All right, here's a play and whatever, but like you're
at least competitive, and then it goes to hell so
much and then I wish I was on air because
I would have been the guy that everybody wanted to attack,
because I thought the start of putting the headset on
the dog was the most disrespectful and insane thing I've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, he was, he was giving Belichick plays. I mean,
you're at that point in the broadcast in the fourth
quarter where hey, man, it is a forty point burial.
We gotta keep people watching. Hey, Kirk Cursey, what if
my new dog gives Belichick plays? Okay, let's try it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Did they at least show Belichick's dog maybe draft picks
a few years ago?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It would have been good if it was Herbstreet's dog
talking to Belichick's dog, and like that was all together
on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I saw that. I was like, all right, now we've
jumped the shark.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, what does it matter? It was it was a
forty matter? What else show some damn respect? What else
do you want, well, first game, what did you want
them to show at that point? It's a forty point
game in ESPN wants people to keep watching. Hey, Kirk
sag is pretty popular. Ben was really popular. Hey, let's
have his dog up here. It's okay, that's great. You're

(02:21):
like the Phil Mushnik of the West Coast. No, do
not come on now. He hates everything. You want to
explain who Phil ms jol Muschnik is a New York
Post columnist, and you can see him every week talking
about all the things he hates in sports, which are like,
why do you even watch sports? But that's that's what
it is.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, but I mean, hate watching is a real thing.
There's plenty of folks that tune in. There are a
lot of people. There were a lot of people that
tuned in for kickoff hoping that Bill Belichick was gonna
get smashed, which.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
He did well. The first drive was great. Yeah, and
if you're putting together the twenty twenty five North Carolina
Highlight whel you show everything from that first drive and
that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Boy, that's script, right because we always joke about it.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Hey, Hey, the.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Script of that first fifteen places you can hang that
in the damn love and I love the post game.
Everybody hated the balloons. I thought it was great. It
looked like we needed was a costume. Yeah, like you
were at Chuckie Cheese or five Nights and Freddies for
that horse. What you just watched North.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Carolin already having the problem is the homecoming dance was
TCU homecoming And I tell you, hey, get rid of
the balloons. The balloons are bad.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Man walking in and just started puncturing him. It pulls
out a little dagger.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
So this day we talked a lot about it last
night about Belichick and and and what he's done the
one eighty after the first drive of the game to
where he is now, which is how long is Belichick
gonna have is You're gonna have more than this year
to turn things around before North Carolina moves on. Because
TCU was good, not a great team, but they were
good and Belichick didn't really have the team to match up.

(03:54):
And with all the drama that went on, all the
Jordan Hudson stuff, and you heard that there was many
things going on behind closed doors at North Carolina's not
thrilled with winning cures all that, but losing makes that
worse and exacerbates the situation. This is a team coming
off a six and seven year If they're another mid
or worse, is Bill Belichick get year two? Like that's

(04:14):
where you're at after game one? But something small, right
that that got laughed at a little bit last night
is honestly a big thing that tells me Belichick is
not cut out for college football and doesn't get it,
that the job is a little bit too much for
him and he doesn't really get college football. Now, before
the game yesterday, maybe you saw this story that Bill Belichick,

(04:35):
doing his famous thing, put out a blank depth chart, right,
like all the scouts at the game and the media
all get depth charts, and scouts come to the games
to watch the players, right, And there's a lot of
scouts there. And there was a big story in the
New York Post. Pete Thamil big college football insider, and said, hey,
most of us were there to see TCU, of course,
because TCU has got more end.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Van Hoover's a guy that has been on some list
fitn last minute. The Belichick defense, the vaunted Belichick I don't.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Know how vaunted it was. Maybe it was non vaunted unvaunted.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
But historically you think that that part of the that
side of the ball, they're at least going to be competent.
Slowly seeing that he can't draft wide receivers but been.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Low vaunted, non vaunted, mow vaunted.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
But so he puts this out, Hey, we're not the
D line. We're not putting out a depth chart. And
also Pete them will All went on to say that
Belichick had been really restrictive with NFL talent evaluators, including
these empty depth charts. Okay, this is why I say
Bill Belichick has not cut out for college football and
doesn't get it. When you're the head coach of the

(05:45):
Patriots and these guys are all playing professionally, and this
is your fiefdom, and and and and you're trying to
win on Sunday, Right, that's all people care about. Do
you win on Sunday? Right, That's that's what matters. Is
that a competitive advantage.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
That you're getting.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, but I mean still teams know who's heard, who's not,
depth chart, who's playing who isn't. But in the NFL
you can be this way. You can play your petty
schemes and troll the media. If you want to and
be a jerk like you've been for the better part
of the last thirty years, you can do that in
the NFL because these are all professionals and the bottom line,
as you're trying to win in college. If you're starting

(06:19):
for North Carolina, you have NFL dreams.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
If you're a starting player for the North Carolina tar
Heels and football, you have NFL dreams. There's seven rounds
in the draft, there's thirty two picks per round. There's
undrafted free agents, there's guys that want to go play
in Canada, go play in different leagues. You want to
know that your coach is gonna take care of you
a little bit. You don't put out a depth chart.
What the hell is that? Man, All you're doing is

(06:44):
hurting the players and the scouts really don't know who
they're looking at. And the fact that you're restricted with
NFL talent evaluators like you're worry it's gonna get out
and the other team is gonna know who your good
players are. They can see it on tape. Right. But
here's evaluators who are going across the country. They come
to this game because they want to see who's out
there now. Granted, guess more for TCU, but if I

(07:05):
go to North Carolina, I want to say, hey, coach,
you're looking out for me, right, You're not just playing
some stupid candy ass game with the media and and
and that you've played your whole career. You think it's
getting some kind of uh, some kind of advantage because
you know what, I really want to get on NFL radars, right,
and not that you can't do it, not like the
sure scouts are gonna come away going well, we don't know.

(07:26):
Belichick wouldn't tell us anything. But why are you making
it more difficult for your kids that you supposedly care
about so much? Why are you making it harder for
them to get on NFL scouts drafts radars. Why are
you doing that? Because that's all you did last night.
I'm not going to talk about how good and talent wise,
I'm restrictive with the talent evaluators. I'm not even gonna
give you a depth chart. Dude. What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Man?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Why are you making the scouts work so much worse
than it is because in theory you again, the scouts
can find their guys, but you're not making it easier,
and you're making it easier for the scouts to say, well,
I don't really know. I'm gonna go with the people
that I came here to look at that I know
about it. It's somebody else that falls through the cracks.
I can pick him up at some point later on.
But that's not doing right by your players, And I'm mad.

(08:06):
If I'm a Carolina player, I'm going coach would even
put out the depth chart. The scouts even know who
I am. Hey, I have NFL dreams. Yes, we want
to win and I'm here to win. We're all gonna win.
But you're not gaining any sort of advantage here right.
We don't know the plays ahead of time. The footballs
are inflated to where they need to be, Like, are
you really doing something that is helping us? No, you're not.

(08:27):
And this tells me that Belichick is not cut out
for college foot.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, there's a couple of things. I kept waiting for.
The spider Man meme. I almost had to create it
myself to where and I saw it in referenced on
one Twitter account as a scrolling on a walk this morning.
But the urban Meyer and Belichick passing each other in
a hallway, and it's the Spider Man meme, right, because
one guy going up the ladder to the NFL disaster,

(08:52):
the other guy coming down through one game. And we
talked with Pete Futech and all our analysts throughout the
pre season and ramping up since Belichick took the job.
It's like the schedules there in theory, but now you're
looking at depth charts. How quickly are guys going to
be dissatisfied? Like your your idea of promote and and

(09:13):
understand the we and and not putting out the individual
right because Tom Brady was the guy that was always
getting wearing it in film review. Hey, because if I
can criticize Tom, I can't have to. I understand that
philosophically there, But when it comes to actually putting this
depth chart together, here's a couple of stats or things
to note whatever, being inclusive. When it comes to quick

(09:35):
interview availabilities or whatever. You know, your job's to sell
these guys, and if other schools have a beat on
them and they're looking to coach them, you're making it
a lot easier. Yeah, right, It becomes that much more
readily apparent of you know what, I don't know how
long this experiment is going to be, whether it's a
year or two or whatever we're signed up for here,

(09:56):
But you need a linebacker because I I'm open to it, right,
because it's not just looking at the the NFL talent
of evaluators is one thing, right, that's just bad business,
Like why would you cut off that? But trying to
think that there's any thing in that that is going
to keep them loyal to you? Because the transfer portal,

(10:17):
and we'll talk about it related to how long you
should extend your stay on the collegiate level with the
amount of money that's flowing through. Like we see these
estimates for backup quarterbacks in you know, top four division football,
and you just raise an eyebrow, going, I'm staying as
long as I can. I'm a ninth year senior if
I can pull it off.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
But if I'm buying beer for everybody on Friday at
the gas and sip.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
But if I'm gonna kid at North Carolina, I'm sitting.
I could go get treated better, at least get exposed
a little bit by another program and we don't have
to do all the work. Right, It's like having the
club that you play, soccer, softball, whatever, actually help in
the recruiting process versus mom and dad paying a service

(11:02):
or trying to cut highlights themselves, like and this is
for North Carolina. You're not winning over the locker room. No,
he this way.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
He thinks I'm coming in and taking the NFL to
North Carolina. And clearly without the talent that he thought
he had it it didn't work and it might not
work this season. But just the fact that you know
you coach college kids now, and you know you are
in you know, when it comes down to it, you
are a big extension of a youth coach. You are
trying to help your kids get through school and get

(11:31):
to where they're going. Yes, you're trying to win football
game number one thing, absolutely right, you're trying to win,
But you can also win and help kids, right, you
can also do that and help them get to the NFL,
because again that's that's always also going to help your brand. Hey,
coach is great, go there, He'll get you to the NFL.
He knows so many people, he can get your tape
in front of people, he knows the scouts. I went
there and coach talked to this scout. He came and

(11:52):
talked to me because he knows everybody from the NFL. Instead,
there's none of that.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
But I know he's got a bitter taste in his
mouth because you know only what Atlanta came knocking on
his door at any point. And there might have been
other conversations we're not privy to that never really got publicized,
but say it was one. You can't now screw these
kids over because you're mad.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I've always hated the press, I've hated having to talk
to anybody. I've hated this. So now you know what. No,
you don't get depth charts. Oh okay, yeah, that's such a.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Big money you teams wanted me, Now you want my
players like you.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, look, look how much no depth chart helped you
last night? You know look how much? Well you well,
you know what, somebody maybe that's why they scored the
first time they had the football. We didn't who anybody was.
After the first drive, we knew who everybody was.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
But that's where okay, Now, yeah, I mean maybe you
really Uh, as the old phrase said, you showed your
ass on this one. By not putting out a depth chart.
You showed you don't have a team that's ready to compete.
So you don't have a depth chart. I'm not even
listing you guys. You're not worthy.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
You guys all stink. If I had a third string
depth chart, i'd put that out there, but nobody else,
right like, like he still seems to be all about him,
right Like it still seems to be about him.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Well that his system is going to win no matter
what exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And you are. You know, you can't just say well
I did it here at the Pros for so long.
I can take my talents to college. You remember when when
he first came in and said, we're gonna do everything
and teach them the right way, from practices to nutrition
to all of this. Like, yeah, all, all that's great.
Can you communicate with kids? Can you communicate with kids?
Can you make sure that you are out for there?
But they trust you, They can come to you and say, coach,

(13:31):
I got a problem. I got an issue, because you
know I get it. In the NFL, Tom Brady wasn't
showing up in you go hey, I got an issue, man,
what's problem? Tom? You know I just bought this ten
million dollar car and Giselle wants this other ten million
dollar car and I don't know what to do. Like,
you need to be more than that as the head coach.
This is your program. And when I see something like that,
I go, he's not up to the job. He doesn't

(13:52):
get the job. He doesn't get what it means to
be a big time D one coordinator, big time D
one head coach football.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Also, you got a brand new rule like you had
that dog eared beating up thing with a little notes
in the margin.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
With Ye, there's a new rule book, Like I don't
even think it fits.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
In his pocket yet it's not, it's not really worn in.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
He doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
It's like a new mix.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
You got to get one of those new wraps that
that kid's been hocking, uh and getting out out there
he's got he's got nothing. So like there's subtle differences
down distance, uh, the resetting time out after first you know,
clock stoppages and and how the field's marked and everything else.
I heard RG three with UH with Dan Patrick talking
about that part of it. A little bit of how

(14:33):
you your coaching a secondary's got to be different from
the NFL. Just the way the field is set up
and so like all, wow, the hashmarks are really wild.
But but it changed. It changes your coverage, right, you
gotta go out of space a little a little bit
in terms of your spacing. I don't know, wait a minute,

(14:56):
but your but your responsibility and and how far you
go for the other yeah, I mean picking.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Up yeah, yeah, no, look, yeah, it's it's a big difference.
But there's certain things that I expect. Okay, there's gonna
be a bit of a learning curve, and there's other
things like, hey, understand that this is this is part
of the job, right, this is this is part of
how it goes, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, and just getting along and trying to promote your
kids is uh, it's at least number what two?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean look, school school.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Kind of drifted a little bit and then yeah, I
mean North Carolina, come on, jokes right themselves of the
made up classes they had going.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I don't even know how like even in regular college,
like how often do kids actually go to class anymore?
It's like it's not that big a deal, right because
you attend via zoom however it is. But there's certain
things I'm like, Okay, you understand that it's a little
bit more than just bringing your philosophy plugging it in
and saying we're gonna make it work with kids, and
nobody else is going to do what we do, and
we bring the Patriot Way to North Carolina and we're

(15:53):
gonna beat the crap out of everybody. Yeah, not so much,
and certain things. Yeah, it's a little bit more nuanced.
You you can't just coach like you did. You're not
coaching a bunch of millionaires. You got a few millionaires,
but you're not coaching a bunch of millionaires like you are.
This is not professional. This is not all they do,
and they want other things. Yes, the guys you coach
in the NFL want to stay in the NFL. But

(16:14):
if they play well, they're on tape, they're gonna stay
in the NFL. Other teams will see and they will
sign them. These are all kids, you're talking about. One
hundred and twenty five d one t Hey, I want
to make sure people see and know who I am,
and they shouldn't. You just make it easier, make it
seem like you're out for me a little bit, you know,
just saying that's what I mean when I see this,
like other job is too much for him.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
We're on to who's next on the schedule.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
We're on to Charlotte. We're on. They lose to Charlotte
next week, look out and Muggsy Bogus gonna have a
big game for Charlotte next week. Just watch. Coming up next,
NFL insider Jason cole stops by will get his Super
Bowl pick and take a look ahead at the big
games coming up the next couple of nights as we
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Speaker 3 (18:36):
Man, an excellent driver.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Fernando Valenzuela pitched Wednesday, not skilled to pitch again until Saturday. Yeah,
so you're happy man, we've made it to another NFL season.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. This is great. Michael Parson's
take from last week, which you know came true within
like a day, which you know, made Michael Irvin looks
not so good, you know, you know, one minute before
the trade actually came down. Not real observant about what's
going on, Michael irvins so, but yeah, like it's been

(19:09):
a wild it's been a wild setup to the season.
Can't wait au see Dallas get crushed by about thirty
an opening night sounds great.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Finally moved an extra half a point after the trade
was goo Who looks.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Worse this week? The Cowboys on Thursday night of North Carolina?
Last night? Who looks worse?

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Oh you can't. You really can't beat what happened last night,
you know, like and just the Jordan Hudson memes and
it just it was out of control last night. I
just went on and went, this is bad for Bill.
This is really really bad for Bill. But yeah, the
person that I really think it's even worse for is
and who's not really getting the quote unquote credit he

(19:49):
deserves as Michael Lombardi, who if you know, when you
talk to agents who represent these high school and college
kids now as they moved their way around the country
looking for nil dollars. Like the person that they that
they were sort of laughing at the most in terms
of his arrogance was Michael Lombardy. He was like, he

(20:15):
just he believed that they were going to reinvent college
football inside of the first three months. Yeah, we know
what we're doing. Hey, yeah, we judge players. And Lombardy
is so full of himself, and you know, he had
the book that came out and all this other stuff.
But I feel bad for Bill because I actually liked Bill,

(20:38):
but he kind of deserved it after everything that happened
in the offseason and the way that this is all
played out. He kind of you kind of look at
it and go, yeah, that's the come up that the
world was looking for for Bill Belichick.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
And there it is. And in forty eight hours, we'll
see Jerry Jones front and center. Can the offense score
enough to at least make the game interesting?

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah? Score? Okay, I mean I can't run, but they
weren't gonna be able to run against Jalen Carter in
the restide group anyway. So you know, kind of who cares, Like, Okay,
let's just open up in five wides and just go
for it, especially now that you have Pickens and Lamb.
The question really is, at what point in the game
will George Pickens quit on a route? And what will

(21:24):
Dak Prescott do? Like that's what I really want to know,
because George Pikets is good for quitting on a route
minimum one time game, especially in a big game when
it's televised, you just know that he's just going to
sit there and go. You expect me, that's that. Yeah,
it was like within reach. Yeah, we expect. We expected
to at least run the route out, you know, Like

(21:45):
I still remember the one against San Francisco where he's
running a deep route and he blamed Picket for it, right,
like Pickett halls back and it was like the one
play they had and Pickett's quit on the route. It
was like it was a bomb. Like he was scored
against San Francisco. That was in the opener two years ago.
What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Man?

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Like run the route out? So Pickings Pickings to quit
on a route awesome? Literally looking for that, Well.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Can I bet that I'm gonna have the right time
we get is there can I go to Vegas and
bet that George Pickens quits on a route, Like.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
How do I brew it? I think, yeah, I think
if you go to Caesar So get that on the board. Uh.
The other one is the whatever the logic that comes
out of Jerry Jones. My favorite tweet of the week
in the aftermath of the Michael Parkinger trades is Jerry
Jones talking about, you know how we need to upgrade
the run defense and this isn't going to help us,

(22:42):
and help us and help us, and Ed Werder just
comes in with the tweet bomb going. They didn't draft
anybody who plays along the interior defensive line until the
sixth round this last year, so it obviously was not
a priority earlier in the off season when you could
really do something about it.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Now, look when the night that happened, we said, Jerry, Jerry,
how do I defend this? And it sounds like they
just realized, Oh, we have to stop the run. Didn't
do it in free agency, didn't do it in the draft,
but all of a sudden, Oh you gotta stop the run.
Gotta go get that. Yeah, that's why we had to
make this trade. That was going to happen.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
The way you stop the run is outscoring people. That's
how you do it. You force the other team to
have to throw. That's what you do. That's how the
NFL works today. Like stopping the run like it was
in the in the eighties and the seventies, that's not
a thing anymore. It's just not. That's gone. Like if
you give up a few yards on the ground, you
give one hundred yards in a game, you're okay. As

(23:38):
long as you get your goal has to be get
to get up by these ten points, so you can
force the other team to stop running. That's how you
play this game this year. And so all the Jerry
stuff is just it's just a Michi gosh, Michi gosh,
Like there we go. That's a good word.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
So we Actually that's the name of the agent that
talked to for a part. It was it was a
michigosh And he just said, you gotta call me for
a contract, and I said, I didn't have to. The
rules say it's not technically illegal. So I had a
handshake deal.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Okay, let's moving along, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
You know, by the way, you know, my Jerry Jones
impression is getting better. Because he's coming back to me now.
The older he is getting, he sounds a lot more
like me doing an impression of him. Listen to that
Press College from last week, smart guy, and you'll see, oh, man,
Jason sounds a lot like him now. Because Jerry Jones
is over eighty, he's coming back to the pack.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Now, you have to you have to do a little
bit more fog born leghorn to get to the to Jerry. Okay,
so you've got to channel your foghorn leghorn, which we
all did as kid.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, all right, I got one for here we go.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Okay, I'll say Mic is not with our team anymore,
and we're going to have some problems. Yeah, whatever, we
have to rush the path.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I'll tell you we got Challe.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
You got a.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I'll tell you we got we got a. We got
a couple of players running around on defense. But they're
sweatier than a head band and a fireman's helmet.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
That's that's.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Okay, that's better. You're now you're getting it.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
An actual foghorn leghorn that boys about his sweaty as
a head band and a fireman's helmet. Yeah, that's a
good one.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
So how bad is the field on Friday night to
take away from what could be a fun game between
the Chargers and Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Sorry, I get so much feedback. What was the question?
I was about Chargers and Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
We're just talking about how miserable the field is and
what we expect from Harbaugh. Can he get justin Herbert
actually slinging the ball or we played defense and run
run again.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I think they probably rather play this alligatory Alcatraz at
this point. But wow, wow, oh boy. Look, people don't
understand like these which is really important thing is to
get right, Like especially when you're dealing with professional athletes.
So the fact that they go and they play these

(26:07):
games on fields that gist are not very good, it
always just galls me. It's like you spend millions upon
millions of dollars on athletes and making sure everything's supposed
to be right, and then you go play in a
place where it's got a crappy field, Like, can't you
get this right? You know, like how many times does

(26:28):
this happen? Last year, it happened. It's happened in Mexico
City more than more than once. You know, it even
happened in Campton you know at the Hall of Fame.
The Hall of Fame game was was canceled one time
because of that. Yeah, the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You really push You know what happens eight or nine
times a year at Soldier Field with the Chicago Parky
Parks Department running that place.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Well, yeah, which makes explain what the uh the mccaskeys
are doing at this point. But have they reached a
deal on that? I lost track of that. Do they
have a deal yet in Chicago and what they're going
to do or do we know.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
We're still fighting. You still have all the politicians that
are trying to say, well, it's still in Cook County,
so it's a mess. Hikes, technically it's over here. It's
still in that zone.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Some of the still in the Cook zone. As long
as like it's still in the frying.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Pan, that's what we're saying.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Okay, No, I think I like Chief Chiefs and Chargers.
I love this game. I love Yeah, I just wish
there wasn't this potential distraction of being on a horrible field.
You know, it's sort of like last year when you
had the Eagles and Green Bay playing that game, and
it was it was a really good game and then
all of a sudden, it's like the sidelight is the

(27:48):
fields just choppy is all get out. You'd like to
have a better quality and you'd also like to have
a division game like this, not farmed out, like if
you know, like if it was the Chiefs playing against
you know, Cleveland. I can see farm in that game

(28:10):
out because you'll draw with that game no matter what.
But why do you have to send the Chiefs and Chargers,
you know, you know outside outside the country. I don't quite.
I don't play to get them. That's too important a
game to be playing it elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
All right, Jake col last time we get to talk
hifore the season starts. Your Super Bowl pick are the
Jets and who.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Jets? My this is my twenty eighty pick. So tight season.
I have the Jets going up against the bullet Seams.
Mustangs are tough.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
They're tough enough, tough enough.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Advan, Yeah, for this season, I really time to go
Eagles to repeat because I love their defensive line. But
I just don't trust him enough. So we're going Dan
Campbell and the and the Lions, despite the fact that
they changing out the coordinator. We're going Dan Campbell's Lions.

(29:09):
That's how they're going to be known. They're not the
Detroit Lions anymore, that they're Dan Campbell's Lions. Campbell, Yeah,
that's that's the D, the d C Lions.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, the D is going to be the old English
D is going to be a d C on the hats. Yeah, sure, okay, exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
So we're going Lions, Jets, Ravens, Lions, Ravens. All right, Yeah,
we're gonna We're gonna see Lamar Jackson's finally who's gonna
play together and not screw it up in the playoffs,
Who's going to have another m v P caliber season
and he'll finally get through the playoffs. I believe, I

(29:48):
believe that is.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
A very good pick by Jason Call. NFL Insider's got
the Ravens and the Lions and the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
H yeah, no, no bucks, no bucks busy. There's too
much buckalove going on out there. I can't buy that.
I can't buy that.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
All right, take it easy, buddy, we'll talk the next
week after Week one. Enjoy Week one. There goes Jake
Call too much, too much, got too much buccaneer. I'm like, wait,
what like that's not I'm not heard one thing like
they were gone, I mean under the radar, tame. But
I mean, well, it's not like all of a sudden
like they're the trendy team to go.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Down super I mean I've tried to speak it into
existence a little bit. But uh yeah, that's that's bold
because right now it's it's it's the Packers in the Eagles, right,
I mean, that's it.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Tell how to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. But a guy has been called but
Nolan MacLean of Fox Sports Radio because he knows how
to throw a frisbee too. It is Steve the Seger
with what's trending?

Speaker 6 (30:49):
Too much bucklove, but you can never have too much bucklers.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Nicely done, very much.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
By the way, there was a stat out tonight about
Nolan mclan and the Mats. Of course, in his first
four career starts, he's four and zero, with an ERA
under one and a half and at least twenty five strikeouts.
The only other guy who started like that was Fernando
Alanezuela nineteen eighty one. A little context, Fernando did that
for his first eight starts and it was five shutouts

(31:15):
in his first eight starts, and he went nine innings
for all eight starts to begin the nineteen eighty one season.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
And he was only twenty one.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Theoretically, and he had eleven strikeouts against the Mets and
ten against the Padres, and ten against the Giants and
eleven against the Houston. It was just an incredible beginning
and he was Rookie of the Year and he was
so young.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Winner when Fernando had the screwball, Noel McLain has the
frisbee like it's say that he's got their pitches.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
It's fine, So we can accurately say that we haven't
seen anybody with the pitch movement like Nolan McLain has
since say Dustin May, so stay.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Tuned, Wow, dust May.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
The Orioles are leading at San Diego five to two
at the top of the sixth inning. The Dodgers were
already beaten at Pittsburgh nine to seven. Show Heytani with
his forty sixth home run, Cal Raley with his fifty
first homer, but Tampa Bay beat Seattle six'. Five raleigh
struck out with bases loaded to end the top of the.
Seventh The yankees won seven to one At. Houston Trent
grisham with a grand slam off losing pitcher from Ber,

(32:15):
valdez who then apparently crossed up his catcher on purpose
on the next, pitch just so he could nail him
in the chest with a. Fastball no, kidding The San
Francisco giants of these are professional.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Players steve put it this.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
Way there are other catchers in the history of the
league who just would have fought their own pitcher right
on the spe in the. Infield San francisco has one
nine of its last. Ten got a seven to four
victory At colorado for The. Rockies that is a record
now of thirty nine and one hundred and if you
didn't hear about, this the losing Pitcher Kyle, freeland who's
now three and, fourteen he allowed a first inning homer

(32:52):
to The Giants Ralphael devers and then yelled at him
for admiring, it and the benches cleared And freeland was
kicked out in the first. Inning texas has won six
in a.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Row they have fallen.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Behind it's five to Two arizona going to the eighth.
Inning by the way That Tampa bay went Over. Seattle
that's five straight for The. Rays junior Caman, aro with
his fortieth, Homer he had four. RBIs he's up to
one hundred RBIs this. Season The angels won five to
one At Kansas, city victories for The White sox And
Saint louis For washington as. Well The cubs Edged atlanta

(33:24):
four to. Three Kyle tucker with a three run. Homer
The Idol brewers first in THE Nl central five games
over The. Cubs, now The mets were twelve five winners At.
Detroit Yes nolan McLain four and zero got the. Win
his era one point three seven so far six, innings
just two runs, allowed seven. Strikeouts Juan soto with his
thirty seventh, homer five in his last five. Games toronto

(33:47):
a twelve nine winner At. Cincinnati George springer with two home,
runs And boston scored four times in the bottom of
the eighth to Beat cleveland eleven to. Seven Ohio state
is number one in the New College football. Polls Penn
state is still number. TWO lsu was up to number
three in Ap The New England patriots say wide Receiver
Stefan diggs will Play sunday against The raiders in the
opener after last year's torn Acl buffalo is signing wide

(34:11):
Receiver Gabe davis to its practice squad after his knee
injury last. Season brown's running Back Pierre strong was waived
from injured. Reserve veteran white Out Robert woods was granted
his release from The steelers practice. Squad The texans gave
backup Quarterback Davis mills a one year. Extension The giants
listed ROOKIE Qb Jackson dart as the backup To Russell.

(34:31):
Wilson Jamis winston listed as third. String tennis, Tonight Novak
djokovic has advanced and men's number Two Carlos alcarez also.
Won there are TWO wnba games, tonight including right, Now
Golden state at home Leading New york early fourth quarter
fifty nine forty, six And hall Of fame college basketball
Coach George ratling passed away at the age of eighty.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Eight back to, You thank, You Steve oh coming up.
Next what former star wishes every his FORMER nfl team
would go? Winless he said it in the podcast. TODAY
i hope every year they Go oh for the. Season that's.
Next jason And Mike Fox Sports radio.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
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show With Mike harmon weekdays at ten Pm, eastern seven
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Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Radio The Jason Smith show With my best Friend Mike. Harmon,
Yeah ramon's always what you want to drink really?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Fast oh, yeah my brothers went and saw a system
of it down and they had the guys doing the
running in a circle and starting to chuck each other
like a mosh.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Pit, oh goes.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Out To Walter Payton jersey that was running a Mack
was he holding the football?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
OUT i just getting waiting for him like stiff arm. Guys,
So Johnny manzel made. HEADLINES i, know, crazy Wait Johnnie.
Manzel Johnny manzel made headlines today and it and it
begged a really BIG qui question and something That i'm
really stunned. About johnny. Football, Okay, Well Johnny, manziel who

(36:07):
very Famously Heisman trophy Winner browns gave his career, away
had problems with subtance, abuse you, know bipolar. DISORDER i
had a whole host of issues that, hey some a little,
Bit i'll passed his, control some completely in his. Control
did a podcast he was asked about his time with
The Cleveland. Browns and let's just say that every Year

(36:31):
Johnny manziela is hoping The browns tank for the number
one overall pick in the.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
DRAFT i sit here today AND i go back and
forth with, Man AM.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I gonna Let cleveland off the hook and just like
let it?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Go Or AM i gonna sit here with the hate
and animosity in my heart for the rest of my?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Life AND i finally sit here, Today i'm, like. GOOD
i Think i'm gonna be pissed at him and hate him.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Forever so.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
It is what it. Is, man no love for The.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Browns i'm rooting for oh the seasons every?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Season, okay, well first of all they play seventeen. Games
now it's but that's, OKAY i get what he was.
SAYING i get what he was, saying, Right AM i
gonna hold this hate in my heart the rest of my?

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Life?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Okay and you know it's this is this is Where
i'm at now Because. Manziel you, know we've talked for
for so long about all manziel gave his career away
at all these different, things and the one thing That
i'm really surprised at least publicly, now is how at
peace he seems with not having a career in THE,
nfl like knowing full well, yeah because he even, said,

(37:32):
LISTEN i had some. Problems you, know obviously you had
some subuse. Problems he, had he had, problems you, know.
Bipolar we mentioned. It but he, says, HEY I i
did a lot to, myself, RIGHT i did a lot to.
It i'm response for a lot of. It because If
i'm thirty, two which is what he, is AND i
see WHERE i was A Heisman trophy. Winner, MAN i
was taken in the first round of the. DRAFT i
told The browns to come up and take, me AND

(37:53):
i couldn't GET i should still be playing in this.
LEAGUE i should still be making you, KNOW i should
be making fifty million dollars a year my latest contract,
extension And i'm. Not but at least very, publicly he
seems at peace with, it when when normally for players
who have had that kind of, career you would see.
It you would see it in headlines about them and

(38:15):
how they spoke about their, careers how they spoke about.
It but he just, seems, yeah, okay, YEAH i still
hate them and all, this but, Yeah, yeah So i'm
gonna hate a. BLANKET i hate, them but so at
ease with that part of his life being over WHEN
i can't believe it's not a bigger deal to.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Him, YEAH i, mean some of it goes back to
questioning your full love of the game and where that
stops and ceases and you move on with. Yourself you,
know some of the questions About manzell and the self
sabotage part of, it not from the health, side but you,
know things that he did that were in his control
is there was always just that question of, well family

(38:51):
had oil money from his grandpa and whatever. Else so
how much of that is well he had a soft,
Landing not that he didn't struggle with all that other,
stuff but in the end it wasn't the all, Right
i've got to go work a nine to five and you,
know humble myself to that. Level.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah and and how much did he like being a? Star,
Hey i'm really good at. FOOTBALL i like being a
star more THAN i actually liked. Football, no it's.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
IT i, mean we got A Cleveland browns, fan believe or,
not we actually have one on Staffh shay's sitting there
and he's just shaking his.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Head he wants to go home after. This he's, like
you're talking about man's Now i'm. Leaving i'm going. Home i'm, like,
okay he may have mouthed something to.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Those.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Uh it really impresses me that he, seems at least
publicly such a piece with with this, ONE i would be,
Like i'd be, like bounce off the walls every single.
Time but at some point yet you.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Just have to own it and try to move on
and profit from. It, however you can sign more, autographs
to make more, appearances do more. Speeches it's at least
a few more bucks and. Notoriety exit about A fresca
exit swollen. Dome, well we talked About Bill belichick not
getting it in college. Football, uh Maybe Deon sanders doesn't
get it. Too break that down next walks
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