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a big day in the NFL. We had a lot
of stuff to get to Jason Cole stopping buy in
a few minutes. Now we're getting close as we can
to eighteen games. Maybe there's going to be a quote
her back salary cap implemented in the NFL. We got
a lot of big stuff happening, but I did not
have Kelly Stafford, Matthew Stafford's wife on my Bingo card
for Big NFL Stories of the Day. Didn't have a
(01:11):
mic You think I would because Kelly Stafford makes makes
news and talks a lot, says a lot of things.
You think I would have it. Did not have Kelly
Stafford on my Bengo card.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You know, we expect a lot of things off season
and chaos, and certainly you know you're always afraid that
the blotter is gonna have a piece or two that
leave your head spinning.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
This one I had to sit back and just kind
of go why why I did a full spock? Why
fuck but spock?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Why spok spuck? Let me tell you what's happening. So
Kelly Stafford, who does a podcast, you know, a regular podcast.
You've heard her name, you know, from time to time
she has said things that have made news, made headlines
which will go over coming up in a few minutes.
But she did a podcast that God posted earlier today
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that might have been a little too much TMI. As
the kids say. The podcast is called Off the Vine,
And she was asked and started talking about the beginnings
of a relationship with Matthew Stafford. When they started dating.
I started dating in college. They've been married since twenty fifteen.
They have four daughters. Their relationship is awesome. You've seen them.
They do many things together. It looks, it looks pretty,
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looks pretty great from the outside, except Kelly Stafford wanted
to tell a story about how well, I kind of
things didn't weren't great with Matthew Stafford and I, well,
she did Matthew and say, Matthew Stafford, it was things
weren't great with Matthew and I in the very beginning,
and when she was asked to elaborate, like what do
you mean, like what happened? This is a story she
told on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Wait, so was he trying to casually date?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And you were all, yeah, girl.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Anyways, long story short, it wasn't that cute of a relationship.
At first.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I hated him.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I loved him. I dated the backup to piss him off,
which yes, he was like, that'll do it. He was
a bad boy too, like Matthew is so sweet and
southern gentleman and all stuff, and the backup was the
complete opposite. Yeah yeah, ooh, and it upset him.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
So they lived in the same dorm because athletes.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Lived in the same dorm and he would see my
car there, and so at one point he like waited
and fought and followed me out and got in my
car and wouldn't get out, and he was like this is.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
So hot, Like this is work.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I was get out of my car and he was like,
I don't He's not right for you. And I was like,
you know what, you can't tell me that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
First of all, I like how she says the backup.
I dated the backup.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, I mean, you don't want to name anything.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
He's really got that done. But maybe she called him
the backup while they were dating.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Did they actually date like that? That's the other part
of this. I mean, well she said we did. I
dated the backup to piss him off. Well, hey, back up,
how you doing? I'm killing you know, if you were
to take a poll of everybody on the call here,
what is date?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Listen, my real name is. I don't care back up.
I'm just calling you back up, your.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Just back back up.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, Matthew, your backup, Not Matthew. I dated the bat
so the backup like wouldn't even say his name, like
Tom or Jim or Jason or Mike.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
No, it's like TV player in that thing you do.
So now he doesn't actually have a name. It yeah,
the bass flayer.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So now there's all these pictures like, hey, I think
this is the guy. It might have been there trying
to figure it out where maybe was Stetson Bennett the
dude's like forty. I mean maybe she was dating Stetson Bennett.
But bout that gotta look and see that Stet's and
Bennett back up Matthew Stafford when when he was at
Georgia could have been you never know.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I don't know stets and Bennett's had had a rough
year one. I don't know that he needs to catch
any strays on this one.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So I like this And then she starts giggling, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, the backup the bat and you know. And that's
the second part of this is that this it's stuff
like this that I realize because it's such a wow
thing to me, Like when she says, oh, I dated
him and then Matthew said, oh, he's not right for you,
and she says, oh, I'm so. I'm like it's working.
It's great. I realize that I was never going to
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be good at if I was invested or if I
was okay playing a game with this kind of drama, Right, Like,
I could never do this kind of drama in a
relationship just because it didn't interest me that much. Right
Like all the relationships I had when I was in
my early twenties, I would say that the serious ones
I would have, if if the if the if the
girl I was dating, I could always tell, Okay, well
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she really likes drama and she really and I'm just
I just wasn't in for that. Like, I just wasn't
a drama guy. I'm not someone saying, oh, I saw
you flirting with this dude, so now I'm gonna go
flirt with this girl, and I'm gonna make sure you
hear about I'm not that conniving, Like I'm not gonna
go through that. I'm certainly not as hell gonna date
somebody just to say to get somebody else to notice me.
I'm like, I'm just gonna date that even person if
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I don't like them, if they're this, if they're that.
I mean, I was never at that level of relationship
where I was saying, Okay, I can be conniving. I
want this, I want this girl. I want to dater,
and I just can't ask her out. I gotta do
all these different things, and I figure out a way. No,
I would ask her out. If she said no, I'd
say okay. Or if I could tell that we were
dating and she wanted more drama than I'm like, okay,
we you know, let's let's uh, let's realize this isn't
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working and and and let's both move on. I just
wasn't that guy. When I hear stories like this, I go, man,
that's like an above the rim game that that would
have been played where I'm just I'm just a guy
shooting threes. Right, I'm a guy. This is like above
the rim for people saying, yeah, so, then I dated him.
Then I made sure that he knew that I went
out because I made sure that that he knew because
I had my best friend make sure that he told
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his best friend that she was out. I was out
with so and so on.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
And there was my car all this other stuff. Yeah,
I know, I make sure he sees my car. And
I love the backup. Watch out for the backup.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I was.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
I was just I could never have done in Wait, wait, hey, backup,
it's Kelly. Listen we're going out Friday night. Hey, let's
make or we go wherever Matthew and those other people
are gonna be. I don't want to sit with him.
I just want to make sure that you know, hey,
the team says together at some point, and you know,
he sees me sitting on your lap at a bar
doing a shot. I just want to make sure he
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sees that. Okay, great.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Meanwhile, he's just yelling I have a name as he
as he listens in the pillow, listen back crying. Do
you want me to be dating you?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Calling you?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Back up? We're dating some other guy calling his name.
I'd rather say, okay, great?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Are they using me just to make him jealous?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Is that a problem?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What is it? What is Susan Sarandon saying to Nukle
loose when when when they're having sex and he he
calls she calls out crash and he goes, you just
said crash. And she said, honey, would you rather me
be doing it to you calling out his name or
doing it to him calling out your name? He goes, ah, okay,
I got your point. Listen back up. I can go better.
I can I could date your backup. Okay, I can
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go to the third string. That guy's kind of cute. Okay,
I can date him as I could. You don't need
to be here. Back up, I could go whatever, and
he's third stringer. He's thirteen, right, you're back up. He'd
be thirteen, and that's all right, back up thirteen, Matthew,
that's out of work.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, no, it's it was one of those. I had
to listen to it a couple of times. Yeah, and
the excitement again. Oh yeah, it's like all right, so
uh gamesmanship one o one?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah. Likewise, like I.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Didn't have any anything in this man, No, none of that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I was boring.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I was once on a The only time I ever
appeared on one of those awful websites was when they
were making fun of fantasy guys doing columns or whatever,
and they said, which one of these is least likely
uh to find steady love or even momentary though all.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Three of us were married.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
But you know, my uh my cherub face as they
called it in the article, h me led me to
be unlovable, but I was already married.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But it's it's here unlovable but I'm already married. I'll
can tell you, does it doesn't mean I was lovable,
but I was a you know one one a story
about like the drama one I knew, right, I remember
I dated this one girl in college. She's I dated backup. No,
I dated this one girl in college. And the very
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beginning of the relationship was great, Like we were like
we loved each other. It was a fantastic and you know,
you talk about your exes a little bit. And she said, oh,
my ex yeah, we you know, we shouldn't have been together.
We should have we should have broken up a long
time ago. I knew. And she said, you know, at
the end of our relationship, it was crazy because it
was like we would go to a mall and I
would find a way to to just get at him.
And I would say, all right, let's have a contest.
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Let's see who could if you start at one end
of the mall and I start the other, who can
who can get the most phone numbers from walking from
one side of the mall to the other. And I
was like, wow, okay, that's a sure sign that you
should break up. Okay, So she tells me the story.
I'm sure she forgot about it. I'm sure she forgot
about it. Right, this is the beginning. Everything's great. Like
a couple of months later, it's like three or four
months later, whatever it was. I forget now it's been
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a long time, but I remember that near the end
when things weren't going like this is crazy. You know,
I'm sure we're gonna break up at some point soon.
We actually were in the mall and she goes, hey,
let's have a contest. You go, we'll start at one
end of the mall. I started the other, and we
see you can get the most phone numbers. And at
that mom I want to turn and say, you know
you told me that story about your ex boyfriend a
few months ago, right, you know you told me that story.
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That was the moment when I knew, yeah, okay, we're
gonna break up. This is you know what, it's not
gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But in the ten years we've been doing the show,
I could have said something similar to you and you
wouldn't have heard me because you were too busy composing
a tweet.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think she was banking on the same thing that
you were paying attention. But I mean, what were you
gonna do.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
You're gonna pull off the gun show and wear a
tank tob I mean, I gotta just say, I mean,
that's that's an unfair game de play.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm here in my Mets hat and Mets jersey. I mean,
I'm kinda I'm kind of coming at things from a
disadvantage here.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I'm even wearing the the doc goodin. I'm telling him
I'm ready to party. I'm not getting anything.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I mean, like this is before this was like before
sell so you had to get a piece of paper
and write stuff down. I'm sitting here, going, should I
just do it? And then like just have different people right,
just going to go do me favor, write your name
and and any kind of phone number on here, just
so I could walk away and feel like, yeah, I
got like seventeen phone numbers, so you think you're so
think you're so hot. Except I knew at the end
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I would walk away and show her that, and she
would have like three legitimate ones where the guy was
gonna call her or she would call the guy. Right,
I got, like, what they're gonna do that when I
know that's what she's going to do. So you know
we're just this is and I think we I don't
think we dated much longer after that, It might have
been a week or two. I don't even know, but
I knew it that I said, yeah, I'm not up
for that kind of drama. I'm up for that kind
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of challenge of doing that. There's certain drama that I'll
I'll go through that I'll be okay, I understand. But
there's certain parts I'm like, Oh, you're just creating it.
You just it's just you just envel You're not.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Don't just like drama. You take yourself and dip your
whole body into a cauldron of drama and just walk
out of it. Like the girl from the Ring, She
just comes out of a well, all full and dripping
with drama, all like, oh my goodness. But I'll tell
you what I don't know. I attracted a lot of
girls when I was younger that really had drama situations
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going on and want and wanted the relationship to be
filled with drama, to have drama with us, drama outside
of it. Oh I just wasn't that guy like this
to me, I'm like this, I wouldn't have made it
like a day after something like this, Oh you're dating
that guy? Okay, well, day to make you jealous you're
dating that guy and you're probably having sex with him.
So what's gonna make me suddenly want to say, oh no, no,
(12:30):
oh u we should be together? No, not me. And
I'm sure she would have looked at me like what
you know, your charms don't work on me, These crazy
drama charms don't work. Oh look at me. I'm walking away.
I mean I'll go cry.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And it's like, we can get together one more time,
one more time. I have a couple of ideas of
how to make this one really memorable outside.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I really it's when when I when I hear stories
like this and this whole plan that she had, I mean,
it's home plant. I'm gonna date the backup and I'm
gonna make sure he sees my car park. They're gonna
make sure that hey, he comes and sees me and says,
I need you. He wanted to casual date. I had
to make sure we went from casual dating to him
wanting to be with me, and all I'm like, this
is like, I mean, why.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Don't we keep doing this to him?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Though?
Speaker 7 (13:16):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
What she did?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
The the other one where it was Matthew's having problems
with all the younger players yeah, well, look that's it.
They're all on their phones and like he's an old man.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And that's the other part of this, right, you know,
not to get too hip deep into relationship, but is
this something that that should have been, something that just
stays between the two of you, or is your story
and not something that you tell out loud that embarrasses
your husband. I mean, really, this is one of those stories.
I'm like, yeah, if I'm Matthew, I go, really, you
had to tell that story. You really had to tell
that story. I I I.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Get I look kind of desperate here, Bell, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I get that Kelly Stafford wants her own a bit
of stardom. And sure, and this is because you can
see because she weighs in on stuff very publicly, where
hey sometimes hey she makes a great point. Other times
it's this is more Matthew's thing, right, Like just just
you know, for certain reasons, like I always say, whenever
significant others get involved, it's a different dynamic, a different
part of the relationship, different things. I understand the frustrations
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that go on from a significant other, but you understand
that a lot of times you're not helping when you
say something, Yeah, it doesn't really help the cause of
the athlete. And like here I'm saying, what is it
is this? This is a way for you to get clicks.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I don't I don't think I would want that story
out there. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Now everybody knows she
was dating the backup quarterback just to get you mad. Wow. Okay, yes,
oh and you fell for it. She reeled you in
and then and her plan to get you worked. And
I get that you can laugh about it now because
it's ten years later or twelve years later and you
have four kids, but they fum Matthew Stafford. I'm sitting
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back going, yes, it was a whole plan apparently, Okay,
and now the whole world knows it. All right, great,
that's that's gonna beird. It's gonna be great when I
next time I go to I'm glad that mini camp
is over. Maybe people forget about this by the time,
but you know, people are gonna come to train camp
and there's gonna be a sign in his locker with
a picture of her car from when she was driving
at twenty fifteen. Someone's going to that.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Or every backup that was there.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Georgia All the picture all the backups, even Stetson Bennett,
They're all gonna be in the lock all the backup
quarterbacks pictures in his locker. Everywhere he goes, that's gonna
be there. He's like, got you realize that's gonna be
day one of training camp for me. He's going to
be that.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But like, there's the rampifications of this are huge. I mean,
you may have affected many lives.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Not to mention there's gonna be some awkward as hell
thing the next barbecue they have, or it becomes a
talking So how did you trick your guy?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
How'd you? Well, here's what I had to do. We
were at opposite ends of the mall, and I said,
let's see who can get more phone numbers from walking
one end to the necks. And I was able to
find the guy I liked, and I got his phone number,
and that's how we started talking. Oh, it was great.
It was I knew he worked at Fantastic Sam's, and
so I had to find a way to get in
there and talk to him and make sure that Jim
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he knew about it. I went in, I got his
phone number, he called me, and we've been dating ever
since and I broke up with Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
He was the guy that was sweeping the hair up
and then I found that he was taking home and
making wigs.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Wow, you took that to a different level right there.
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Speaker 3 (18:29):
All right, let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Looks like we're going at eighteen games in the NFL, real,
real soon. We could get a quarterback salary cat. One
thing I know we're getting right now is a very
good next few minutes of radio. Brought to us courtesy
of our next guest, longtime NFL Insider Pro Football Hall
of Fame voter. You can follow him on Twitter at
Jason Cole sixty two. He has been putting very good
(18:54):
players in the Pro Football Hall of Fame for the
better part of a decade. Now, Jay Cole, what's happening.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
I'm glad to be part of a very good show.
Thank funny and your All of your tweets I've been
reading are very good. They're really They're very good. Yeah, yeah,
I expect JJ Reddick to be at least a very
good coach.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
What about tweet today where you said he was very good,
Like you went to the tweets and yes, he is
very good.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Every one of your tweets. It's like about ten of them,
but could be very good. Final MESSI and they're getting
trampled advance. So you're saying he's not treated very good
by his hands.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
He's a very good player.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Is very good?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Yeah, yes, yeah, very good.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm glad you finally embraced that you're putting very good
players in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Now I know we're playing famous players in the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
Famous okay, legend, Yeah, got okay, thanks for coming on
by Michael Haroldmichael.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Famous players, all guys. You love to hear we're putting
them in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Bill Cower, Bill Cower, you know he's he's awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Don mckowski headed to the Hall of Fame. He was
fun magic man.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Here we are, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So let let's let's start here.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You know, Albert Breer talked about this. We know the
NFL wants it. We're really going to see eighteen games
in the next year or two. We don't have to
wait longer than that. It's gonna happen very soon.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Well yeah, because the players are already basically capitulating. It's unbelievable.
Like I'm trying to remember the new president, Reeve Mabon,
it's the president of the A and he's like, well,
I guess we could talk about it that kind of
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thing instead of like you didn't get a Hell no,
you didn't get eight There's not possible. They're going to
have to pay dearly for this. It's like, well, you
know they will talk to them about it. They're going
to run you over. They're just going to trample you
on the way to eighteen games, and they just don't care.
It's like, oh, we're going to ask for time off
in the off season. The owners have to give you
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more time off in the offseason if they're going to
make you play eighteen games. You guys are such dummies
as negotiators that the thing you're asking for is more
time off, Like they can't put you through more CTE
inducing hits and not give you time off Like this
is this is why the players don't get it. You
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shouldn't negotiate over health and safety. The owners should give
that up. Automatically right, And you should be going for money.
If they're going to ask you to play more games,
you should be getting you know, several percentage points on
the gross, not oh, we got one percent of all
new revenue, which is what they got when they went
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to seventeen games. I'm like, so you got one percent
extra of the additional money that they've made for the
one extra game from going to sixteen to seventeen games? Like,
could you be worse negotiators? I mean, could you just
be more terrible about this? I mean, I just the players.
They're going to take it and they're going to like it,
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and that's just the way it's going to go.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Seems to be about right from the PA from all
the things we've watched for decades now here JACOLESO, well.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Yeah, the other thing about well, hey, here's the other one.
Lloyd Howel, who seems like a very nice man, knows
nothing about football. He never played, he's never been in
a locker room, he never has been part of the sport.
He wasn't an attorney representing the players behind before this.
He's never worked in football at all. He doesn't know
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the difference between seventeen and eighteen games. Furthermore, he is
a corporate guy. They hired the NFL t A hired
a guy who was more likely to apply for a
job in the NFL offices than he was to apply
to work for a sporteam.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
But he knows how they think now.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
J Cole, No, he has no clue. How they think
he has no clue how vicious they are.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Wait, you really think he doesn't know the difference between
seventeen games and eighteen games? Because I do. It's one game,
I understande tho.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah, you could represent the NFL.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
T that's very good representation.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
He would be a very good, very good Hey.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Here's the thing. It's just one game. Hey, Mahomes, it's
one game. I mean seventeen day look at.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
My Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Trent Williams, it's only one more game, Tyron Smith, it's
only one more game.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
You are Rogerson Rodgers in.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Yeah, yeah, you only play you know, twelve games a
season as it is. What's the difference of you, you know, like,
you know, losing another disc, you know, and your back
you know, what's the big deal. You know, what's the
big deal about taking you know more hits to your head.
It's I'm sorry, I just I've watched this play out
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where over you know, thirty years of watching the players
not understand their leverage, not doing things to create better leverage,
and not understanding the issues year over year because they
continue to hire people who don't know football, like Demorris
Smith didn't know anything about football. Lloyd Howell doesn't know
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anything about football. You want to know one thing about
every single commissioner in the history of the NFL, every
one of them, okay for now eighty years, every single
one of them. You know what they did before they
worked as the commission They worked in the NFL. They
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know how the game works, They know where the bodies
are buried, they know how the rules are, they know
what the economics of the game are. They know everything
about it. So these guys, the union just doesn't get it.
They never have it.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
So, speaking of rules and economics, are we going to
get this the whole idea of a quarterback separate salary gap?
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Oh why not? Let's restrict earnings on people anyways, if
the owners want to do it, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I don't know, I might go for it.
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Well, no, with the PA, like here's the other thing
that the PA doesn't get the while the salaries for
quarterbacks keep going up. Want to know why that is?
Because the bottom guys who make the minimum still make
very little money, Like sixty to sixty five percent of
every roster is on minimum salaries. And those minimum salaries,
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you know, they used to be three hundred thousand or
you know, two hundred thousand dollars back in nineteen ninety
three when they started this, they've gone up to a
whopping like six hundred thousand. Now, did you think that
maybe if you raise the minimum salary so that those
guys made more money, that maybe that would even out
the structure so that the guys at the top end
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wouldn't necessarily make, you know, forty or fifty times with
the guys at the bottom end make and therefore the salary.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You know.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
But again, the NFLPA, which is supposed to fight for
the totality of players, doesn't understand how salaries work and
doesn't understand that the bottom end guys have to get
compensated better. I mean, here's my favorite rule of all things,
compensatory draft picks. Do you know how compensatory draft picks work?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Do I either one was that. Yeah, I didn't know
if that was.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I don't know if you're.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, you're asking a very good question, and I didn't know.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I know it's a very good I'm asking, I'm legitimately
asking this. Well, no, I'll just answer it. We'll make
it rhetortical.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Can I know the answer? Players, you lose in free agency.
It matters what your compensatory picks are, where your selections are.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
So guess what the NFLPA agreed to. They agreed to
a system in which teams are incentivized to draw players
who've been with their team longer longer. Right, they're saying, look,
don't keep those guys, don't pay them more money, and
we'll reward you with a pick. Yeah, that's bad strategy.
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It eliminates guys from having longer careers. It takes the
very good players and gets them replaced it by younger
players who are not as very good in this sense
a lot of the time. Instead, I mean, like, why
should I get compensated for intentionally telling a guy who's
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been on my team, sorry, can't use you anymore. I
shouldn't get rewarded for that. I should I don't understand.
I don't understand that rule at all. But instead, like
I've been incentive to let that guy go even though
I know more about that player than any other team
in the league, and I'm the one that's most likely
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you know, for him to you know, pay him a
little bit more and be for him to play better
because I know how to use him better. But no,
the NFLPA, and it's infinite wisdom, but no, yeah, sure,
let's have compensatory picks. Go ahead, do that, Like, let's
make sure that the guys on the bottom end of
all of our rosters don't capitalize on their value.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two. In a minute.
Speaker 7 (28:58):
It was a very good segment that that was a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Football after everything you just said, do you really think
I'd be worse off representing the NFLPA. I'd be pretty
good at it.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
You would at least know what you don't know. And
that's better than the last two guys for fifteen years
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's thet I'm sorry, Yeah, I don't know what you're
talking about. I'm gonna go make a phone call. I'll
be right back. Okay, great, thanks later, take it easy.
There it goes Jason Call.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
He was very good today.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
He was very good, always very good visit with him.
You know, the funny thing is when when that story
came up today and you see a couple of NFL
insiders Tom Pellisaro talking about the teams are thinking about
a potential salary cap for quarterbacks only, I said, I
remember having that idea a couple of years ago, saying, yeah,
you're going to get to that point because quarterbacks are
going to price themselves out. And I looked on Twitter
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how far back ago we had that idea twenty seventeen?
Because I just said, how about a Fresca QB salary
cap twenty seventeen. My tweet went up today. Eventually you're
going to start seeing a quarterback salary cap. They're going
to price themselves too high, and it's going to be
too difficult for teams to navigate. They're going to want
to change. Seven years ago, I told you this was
seven years ago. By Carmen. There there's tomorrow's takes, the
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night before, and then there's today's takes.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Seven years seven years ago. I said this, No, it's good.
It doesn't mean it's a good idea. And as Jake
Hole laid out and I think at the time argued
very similarly of you know, looking at the whole structure
of the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Again, what the PA is charged to do.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
And this is one part of it, right, It's looking
at the hole and not that that top level group
of guys that make thirty million dollars a year. It's
the fact that you're churning out the back end of
the roster year after year that makes this disparity grow
and grow and grow. He adds the compensatory pick on
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top of it, as if that was you've already won
the match, but you decide to go to the top
rope Randy Savage style one more time, just so the
crowd can cheer or boo you one last time before
you exit the ring.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So but yeah, here we are seven years, seven years,
seven years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I had that idea seven years add now, really I
can represent the NFLPA. Hey, listen, If Gottlieb can coach
in college and JJ Reddick can coach the Lakers, I
could do this. I mean broadcasters time now to be
coaches and do things. I could do this now executives.
You're an idea manah And.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Again, look how many times did we excoriate the the
lackluster efforts of Demorris Smith when they would champion a Hey,
we got a couple more days off. You know what
it means your product sucks. It's less hitting, it's less
time together where your offensive line is learning how each
other worked. Ause you turn three fifths of an offensive
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line over each year. All of those things. But yes,
you got that extra day off.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Congratulations, Exit au Voda Fresca, Exit, swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. We got
more coming up in ninety seconds. But right now, Day
eight of the Grimace era'll be recapped by special delivery
Steve to Segah, I gape, you bet you. We will
get to some NFL items in a moment.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
By the way, I am due to be in for
mister Harmon next Thursday Night backup co host. Hey, I
got a phone message from Kelly Stafford. Do you guys
have any.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Idea what that is about?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Him?
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Announced as a backup today and suddenly I just let
it go to voicemail.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Is your car parked in front of your house? Like
is that going to just want to make sure.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
I just think trying to sell me on that living
wheel preparation.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I just let it go.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
The Patriots gave running back Rmandre Stevenson a four year extension.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
He's entering the final season of a rookie deal.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Denver hired former Stanford head coach David Shaw as senior
personnel executive. He was a four time Pack twelve Coach
of the Year. I remember that conference rookies will start
reporting to training camp in the NFL. Getting to that
point in the NFL, rookies are reporting to training camp
in about a month, less than a month for some teams.
In Major League Baseball's late game, Brewers have bases loaded
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two outs. Top of this seventh Milwaukee Trails five to
three at San Diego. Everything else final, including the game
in Birmingham. Saint Louis held on six to five over
San Francisco at Giants versus Cardinals. Game was at historic
Rickwood Field in Birmingham on Fox TV. Attendance eight thousand,
three hundred. The Birmingham Black Bearons of the negro Leagues
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played there for nearly four decades, starting in nineteen twenty four.
The teams were wearing throwback uniforms to highlight the history
of the Negro Leagues in those two cities, San Francisco
and Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
All living Negro League.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Players were invited to the game, and those attending were
honored before the game. Brookwood Field the oldest pro ballpark
in the US. It opened in nineteen ten. Baltimore beat
up the Yankees in New York today, seventeen to five.
Aaron Judge did hit his twenty seventh homer of the year.
Dodgers were five to three winners at Colorado Shoheyo Tani
a leadoff homer, his twenty first. Kansas City won at
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Oakland three to two, eight thousand and seven fifty three,
barely more at the A's game than the game in
Birmingham tonight. Slightly more seats available in Oakland.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Well, they saw professional baseball in Birmingham, Yes, absolutely absolutely
they did.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Tampa Bay and ten innings beat Minnesota seven to six.
Wins for Houston, Arizona and Cleveland, which beats Seattle six
to three. Another loss for Luis Castillo five innings, five
runs allowed. The Copa America Tournament started tonight on FS
one Argentina two nothing over Canada in front of a
sellout crowd in Atlanta. The Americans opener is Sunday. At
the Euro Soccer Tournament, Spain defeated Italy won nothing, out
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shooting him twenty to four. The Lakers new head coach
will be jj Reddick. Sacramento reportedly will re sign Malik
Monk to a four year deal.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve Though The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon live from the Tyraq dot Com
Studios coming up next. Change is coming and it's great change.
I guarantee you we're gonna get big and great change
to the NCAA tournament. What's being talked about? Way do
we tell you that's next? Right here? Jason and Mike,
this is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Okay, eventually, you're gonna tell me why you've been on
this gypsy kick for like the last month, and I
tell you, yeah, go ahead. I just really love this song.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
You've been reading a lot about.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Sleep playlist going and I was listening to like Tears
for fears and stuff. This came on play twice. Real
all right, you just watched Daisy Jones and the six
You're like kin of Fleetwood match.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah yeah, okay, Either that or you had a story
of the off the off the books here that you needed.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
To tell and you thought you'd do it through song.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Or it's my girlfriend's favorite song. I said I'd play
it for her every night at least once.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You know, that's how she knows I'm in the chair
doing the show.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
You know, I'm thinking about you if I'm playing a song.
Oh hey, you want a great story about how someone's
wife knows they're actually working not somewhere else when they're
a radio DJ, I'll I'll tell you that story sometimes.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
That just got interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
What do you think now is not the Yeah, I
don't know about that. Now is not that time. But
I'm saying it's a great story. It's a great, great story,
And I'm like, wow, so but again, uh so. The
NCAA has put forth a possibility that the tournament could expand.
The NCAA Tournament Basketball could expand to seventy two teams,
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could expand to seventy six teams. It could stay at
sixty eight teams. This is what has been offered out
there for debate for potential implementation. The NCAA tournament could
expand seventy two seventy six or stay at sixty eight.
Earlier this spring, we told you without a doubt they're
going to expand. They have to because this was the
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year where so many teams were left out, and they
were power five teams. When the power five teams start
getting left out, that's when change occurs. When the mid
major teams get left out. Okay, there's no reason, really
you had to take Monmouth, Why do we have to
take Saint Mary's. But when the power five teams with
pretty good resumes get left out, this is what effects change.
And we told you before the tournament, hey, this year,
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you're gonna see conversation. They're gonna expand the tournament so
they can let these power five teams and because now
the big boys are getting left out. And sure enough,
here we are a couple of months after the NCAA
Tournament seventy two seventy six teams has been out there.
I guarantee you they will go to seventy two teams.
They will go as soon as they can. If not
for this year, then for next year they will go
to seventy two teams because it works for a couple
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of reasons. Is it gonna be all kinds of extra
money TV wise, No, because the TV contracts have already
been figured out. But it's more money that can be
split amongst more teams. And you basically now own a
whole week of college basketball where if you go to
seventy two teams, you have four games on Monday night,
four games on Tuesday night. It's like two mini NCAA
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tournament days. Right, you have the four games on Tuesday,
four games on Wednesday. Then you get sixteen Thursday, sixteen Friday.
And instead of hey, the end of the week is
the nca tournament, it's the entire week. It's Selection Sunday.
Everybody takes a breath on Monday, and the tournament starts
on Tuesday. Four games at night, crazy endings. You're gonna
put better teams in. You'll put teams, You'll put eleven
six games in there. Yes, you'll still have sixteen seeds
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battling it out, but you're gonna have some eleven six games.
This is what wins. They won't go to seventy six,
because if they don't like seventy six, you're never gonna
cut it back right. You can always add on, you
can't take away right. It's like if you cut a shirt.
If I cut it a little shorter than I want
it and I don't like it, I can still cut
it a little shorter. If I cut it too short,
I'm not getting that length back right. Like if I
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want to cut the bottom of his shirt, cause it's
thirty two inches and I like it about thirty inches. Ah,
if I cut it right out, aw, the material rolled
up a little bit too much. It's too short. I
can't do anything about that. So they're gonna go to
seventy two, and we will have four games on Tuesday,
four games on Wednesday. That's where we'll go. If we
need to go to seventy six at some point, we
will go there. But we told you this in the spring.
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This is gonna happen. They're already talking about it. Seventy
two teams is happening, and it's happening soon.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
But it's like anything in college sports. The last couple
of years, it becomes the how do we keep expanding this?
Make more people happy? More conferences happy, even though there'll
be fewer conferences when it's all said and done, the
great consolidation of it all, as it were. But it's
keeping the TV folks happy with must see games and
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a full slate of them owning parts of the calendar
so that you can bump up what the next bout.
Because it's always about the next contract, man, it ain't about.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
The one you signed.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
It's all about figuring out who wants to get involved.
And your eyes are are getting wider than ever when
you're looking at the way the NBA has got multiple suitors.
Look at the w NBA. It's fractured now, but they're
already saying the rights deal for is going to be
some multiple four or five six times what they've they've
had in the past. And I know that's not a
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monster number, but you just start thinking about, you know,
I had that multiplier And when it comes to the
NCAA tournament still just a huge piece of real estate.
Gambling continues to grow interest because the talent is more
spread out, gives you opportunity. Yeah, it's a it's a
no brainer. Everybody wins. You have fewer snubs, and that
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means more more recruiting, fights and battles, and the chaos
ensues until eventually everybody gets in.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, all nineties, everybody's everybody's in. No, but look, but
you know my philosophy, I I don't think you should
let all these mid majors in, right, they don't have
the same resume over the course of the season. Sure
that that that the power fives do. But okay, I'm
willing to say it's good for the game. You put
those teams in, that's great. But when the Power fives
all start getting left out, now you have an issue.
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And when it's power fives that have that have real
beefs and ay, we should be in this tournament. And
this year there were four or five of them. I'm
not even saying Syracuse is one of them, but they
won twenty games and didn't get in. And there were
four or five other teams that had a better resume
than say, from Power five conferences. They're like, hey, how
do these guys not get in? So once this happened,
now you know we're going to get changed because Power
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fives are affected or Power six if you want to say.
You talk about the Big East as well. When these
teams when these teams don't get in, that becomes something.
And I'm sure that the NCAA committee can say, all right,
if we add four more teams in, that'll be great
mathematic wise, it'll be great for television for the week,
and we'll stem the tide on people being upset about
snubs for the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Just always remember there's not a lot of teams that
are running roughshot over the opponents, and the spread is
the great equalizer to keep folks engaged.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
You thought it was over with Gypsy, but instead we're
gonna hit you with Dreams. Coming up next, is JJ
Reddick really the right call for the Lakers? Lakers insider
Dan Woik stops by with the latest. This is Fox,
I dream of Gypsy Jason