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June 11, 2025 41 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon give out the winning formulas for the NBA Finals. MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show for all the BIG news from around the diamond. And the Knicks are now 0-3 in their head coaching search!

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Speaker 1 (00:31):
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Game three of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah counts. Yeah, anxious waiting again.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I still can't get over the You know, we talked
about this last night nineteen seventy eight. It took them
eighteen days to play seven games in the NBC.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Pretty impressed.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You think now is tough, But eighteen days, like at
every four days they played a game. But get Sunday right,
Sunday Thursday Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, I think would still been.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, they would play on Sunday, then they would play Tuesday,
but they wouldn't know the result until Thursday because that's
they would air the game, because Tuesday night was still
like McMillan and Wife was on TV and the Rookies.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
I did even get the yeah, uh and well, no,
you want to get the Streets of San Francisco in
on Yeah, we can't. We can't show an NBA Get
Car basketball game. We have a brand new Streets of
San Francisco to run at ten o'clock. We'll put it
on Thursday night when Yeah, you know what I think,
that's McLeod. Yeah, you know Dennis Weavers. We're not going
to run that show again. Yeah, we'll put it on

(01:55):
the seid of McLoud.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Wow, you disrespected Dennis Weaver.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
You can don't drive by on any seventies leading man
of a television show.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You want a great story. I used to love McLeod.
I used to watch. My favorite part was the beginning
because the beginning of the show was just him walking
towards the camera with a flashlight and it was so
scary when.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I was when I was a kid, I was like, oh,
I was so scared.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
My dad said, no, he's a good guy. He's a
good guy. He's a good guy. So I was like, oh,
then he would come and you see him at the
very end. He's got he's got the flashlight.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
But I was so scared because here's a dark screen.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
The flashlight is coming at me. And then my dad
turned it around and saying like, oh, hey, your friend
is on. Come watch your friend. And I would see
the beginning. Oh, here comes my friend. He comes McLeod
walking to the screen with a flashlight. It's my friend,
it's my friend. So McLeod went. I was scared, and
then I became his friend.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Did you ever write him a letter and say no?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I kind of feel like that's my own Curious George
and the Scary Noise story.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
That's a classic anybody with kids, grandkids, nephews, nieces, you
know that episode.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
My dad flips be Curious George and the Scary Noise.
Padres lead the Dodgers right now for zip. As the
Dodgers bat in the top of the fifth inning, one
out Shootani is just singled to write. So the Padre's
looking to get a little bit of measure revenge l
Last night we got John Paul Morosi coming up in
about fifteen minutes for all the lands of Ange League Baseball.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
One of those pesky bullpen games for the Dodge. Yeah, yeah,
you know, bullpen game.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Nothing takes the juice out of a game and going
and it's a bullpen game.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
But like for this series in particular, it's like it's
one thing. It's like a fine it's against the Rockies.
Throw a full series of bullpen games and the thinks, look,
not that it.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Can't be excited, but when you hear bullpen game, you go,
why should I care? If that team doesn't care, clearly
because they're going a bullpen game, What the hell should
I watch?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
If they don't care about the game. Why should I
care about it?

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Because you bet the over the run total or show
Aotani to Homer.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
The bullpen Not my fault. You'd sign eleven thousand starting
pitchers and they're all hurt. Not my fault anyway.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
By the way, even with the bullpen game, they're really
waiting for Dylan Cease to turn it around and right
now shut out ball into the fifth. But it has
not been good this season in a bullpen game. It
was the same as last night eight and a half fronts.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, that's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now, two big things going into Game three of the
NBA Finals. After the first two games, I can tell
you the biggest question, the biggest.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Thing that's going to decide this series. Right.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You can go back and forth with a lot of
things about SGA and we talked about needing more from
Tyres Haliburton, But for me, the biggest question and the
series is this. Can the Pacers hit enough threes to
win three more times? Can they shoot forty five fifty
from three point range to win three more times? That's
the series. That's how the Pacers beat the Knicks, It's

(04:40):
how they won against the Cavaliers. It's how they come
back at the end of games because all five guys
on the floor, no matter who's out there, all five
of them can hit threes. And you saw in Game
one they hit their threes. In Game two they did not.
Can they hit their threes three more times to win?
That's the game. Not Oklahoma City's bench, which was great
in the last game. And Alex Caruso every time he

(05:01):
plays well, Twitter is all rife with Remember when the
Lakers at alex Caruso and they let go him because
they wanted to make sure Taylor Horton Tucker was signed
to a contract.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Those are the days, right.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
It's not limiting SGA and getting Gildess Alexander to be
able to be a facilitator and not score thirty eight points.
It's not Halliburton being uneven because clearly the Pacers have
shown you that, hey, even in some uneven games they
can win with halliburtn all that stuff is gonna suss
itself out here and there. But it's but if Indiana
it's fifty percent from three point, If they can hit

(05:32):
threes like they did against the Knicks, like they did
in Game one, they'll win the series. If they can't
do that three more times, they'll lose.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
It's real.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
No matter how you each team can overcome the other
teams shutting down their best players or a little bit
of strategy here and there. Right, But that's the game
for me. If the Pacers can hit those threes, they'll win.
If they can't, the thunder gonna win. Can the Pacers
do it? And if you can answer that, whatever your
answer is to that question, that tells you who's gonna

(06:01):
win the series?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yahay?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
We go back to Game one and the number of
turnovers in the first half. Great transition defense by the
Pacers neutralize their ineffectiveness and shoddy play for that first
half and kept them hanging around. And we know there's
always going to be a run the college basketball, professional basketball,

(06:22):
unless it's a full pack up the shop and let's
go home kind of game, that you're gonna get a
run in the third or early in the fourth to
put you back in striking distance. Particularly again, as you say,
you hit three point shots forty six percent in the
first game, thirty five percent in the second, fifteen turnovers
in the second game, where the Thunder actually took advantage

(06:45):
of them more frequently than they were able to in
Game one. Right, Remember all those was at eighteen, nineteen
or twenty, depending on which box score and source you
were looking at. But nine points off turnovers, all right,
that's a great transition defense.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Is that sustainable for a full series as well?

Speaker 5 (07:03):
No, that's not so taking care of the basketball and
actually limiting those opportunities, because what did Sga do with
the ball in the second game? He went to the rack? Right,
Like we've talked about a lot. You know, when you
talk about Halibert, you talk about Anthony Edwards, you talk
about different players along the way of I know that

(07:25):
when the chips are down, this guy's going to go
try to make something happen. He's going to make a
circus shot or two as he takes some contact. Oh wait,
after he initiates contact but gets the file call.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Look, it works. I can't fault a good strategy.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Be mad if you want actually shooting fewer free throws
this year than he did the last two. But the
point just being that, you know they have their stopper
for the pacers, they need Obi Toppin to hit three
point shots. They need bank shot three pointers from Miles
Turner or for Pascal Siakam to get into a flow

(08:02):
of some bench scoring as well.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
But overall, what do we We've.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Seen them lead for a total of two minutes, right,
and for all the runs, for all the excitement, and
obviously Game one they came and stole it, the big
Haliburton shot, which it had you in in post traumatic
stress disorder, and they.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Did it again.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
That guy did it again, and then you you talked
about the Knicks, but it's the idea that I just
don't think they can compete.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's yeah, But that's the thing is the threes will
make up for that, and they can wind up. They
can wind up. Hey you're down by seven, you're down
by ten, you're down by twelve. But you know what,
everybody can't guard everybody, and if you can hit your
three like that, that's the weapon.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
That's why the Pacers are where they are.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
How many time any other team gets down like that,
it's over because hey, when you're down that big one
or two guys that threes on your team to give
the ball. They're not gonna make all of them. You
can guard a couple of guys. But that's the Pacers.
That's what makes them so special is all five players
on the floor.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
We talked about it with Rick Beeker.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Right where their floor in terms of three point percentage
make is the ceiling for what the thunder do. Right,
So now you get to operational efficiency and the defense,
and really it's the are you going to commit to
forty eight minutes of closing out guys and open shooters
because that's one thing that look, you have to continue

(09:24):
to lament what the Knicks were unable to do. Was Wow,
even just a little bit of a hand in the
face is going to make that much bigger difference. And
what the Thunder can do is make that happen so
consistency on that side, I'm curious going back to Indiana,
what we get in game three tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah. Well, look, and.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
That's the thing, right, is that now after seeing the
first two games, it's going to be great for basketball
fans everywhere because now after seeing this, this series is
going to go seven, right because because look at you,
it feels like it's go sweels like what I well,
I still I said Oklahoma City in five before the series,
but seeing the first two games, one of the two games,

(10:07):
Indiana will hit their threes enough, one of the games,
Oklahoma City's defense is gonna slow them down. Because Oklahoma
City is the best team in the NBA. Oklahoma City
is gonna get one of those great all around SJA
efforts to win a game. Then it looks like it's
gonna be home, home and home, and I expect the
home team to win. You know, when you go, you
go five to six to seven. I don't know if

(10:28):
either team can impose their will on the other definitively
over the next three or four games. Right, Because I've
seen times where it looks like the thunder able to
impose their will. I've seen times where it looks like
the Pacers, really you're controlling the play and Halliburton's controlling
things and the guys are open for threes. I have
seen that. I don't know that. Look, Indiana's bench is

(10:49):
gonna play better at home, right, you had Oklahoma City's
bench played great in game two. But Indiana's bench is
gonna play really well at home. Probably Matheren will score
like thirty five points in eight minutes. But Oklahoma City's
gonna adjust, They're gonna defense, and it's gonna be a
game to game thing. It's not gonna be where Hey,
Oklahoma City Pacers won that first game. Oklahoma Cities figure
things out. Now they boat race them the next few nights. Right,

(11:10):
Here's Pacers now have home court advantage. They're gonna get
the foul calls at home. It's gonna be an extend.
It's gonna be an extending, extending the series. It'll be
a daily dance between these two teams. And if I,
if I thought and look, can the Pacers do enough
to slow down the thunder and take like three that. No,
that's not gonna happen either. But game to game you're
gonna see things change. You're gonna see one game the

(11:32):
Pacers did this, the next game, Oklahoma City is going
to adjust. The next game, Oklahoma City will do this,
the Pacers will adjust it. Just it just smells to
me that now after seeing the first two games, that
it's going to go seven. I get that, Oh, Indiana escape,
there should be two nothing Oklahoma City. But guess what
it's not. And the Pacers are going home and they're
jacked up, and their bench is gonna play great. So yeah,
this this series, I think is gonna be tied going

(11:55):
into Game five.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Other bench is what gave them the win in Game one,
for all the Halliburton shot, yeah, and topping with his
seventeen up, they scored thirty nine points off the bench.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Yeah, in that Game one.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I wish I could say, Hey, I feel like it's
still gonna go the way I said, but it really
now each team it's gonna be gained a game punch
counter punch. We're gonna be able to neutralize what you
did the last game by doing our thing. Then the
one team will neutralize the other. This is gonna go seven.
And I'm seeing the split and I'm seeing home home
home in Oklahoma City. Is that from the home office

(12:26):
of Adam Silver?

Speaker 4 (12:27):
That is it?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yes, that's what and what damn it? They're gonna care Yeah,
going seven And now Tony Brothers.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Just wait, Brothers, the new Extender, Tony Brothers, the new Extenders.
Can't call Scott Foster anymore. If you've got to get
the new extender in the new Extender, it's Tony.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
That just sounds Creety.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
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(15:09):
or at least it felt like that tonight.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Maybe show.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
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Joining us now in the hotline to break down all
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(15:34):
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Speaker 4 (15:49):
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Speaker 3 (15:53):
I am outstanding? I can exclusively report to you that
here at my home in Michigan, the home run that
Aaron Judge hit just landed beside me. Oh got a
second ago, Because here's the thing. Major League players are
used to seeing extraordinary things. They do it every day,

(16:13):
and the many of them author extraordinary things every day.
The errand Judge home run that was hit tonight in
Kansas City. If you look at the reaction in the
Yankee dugout, it was even by Judge and standards, something
cruely out of this world, out of the ballpark, out
of the state, as far as I'm concerned, landed.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
On my front lawn.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
It was that kind of a home run. To be honest,
it felt like four sixty nine was an underestimate of
exactly how far that ball went. And again it seemed
like the momentum. Hopefully the Royals don't have to do
repairs on the Hall of Fame that they've gotten left
field because they seemed to crash right into the windows

(16:57):
of that. It was just an absolutely titanic shot. And listen,
the Yankees and Aaron Judge. I mean, it's gonna be
a fun storyline. We've got that game on Thursday, and
MLB Network, You've got Judge, You've got with It's gonna
be a lot of fun to watch them both play.
But what Aaron Judge is doing right now, guys, it's
just difficult to describe in any sort of normal terminology.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Now, so we're here and getting into the middle of June,
and here's Judge today, two for five, he's hitting three
ninety six. Give me the percentage chance you think that
he can make a run at hitting four hundred this.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Year, I'll make it one out.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
We're talking about it throughout the summer into September, like, hey,
he's a percentage he can make a run at four hundred.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I think he can. It's it's right there. I'm gonna
say better than fifty percent. I'm gonna say fifty five,
forty five. I'm not gonna say that he's going to
finish it at four hundred and predict that, because that
is really hard to do. But what he's able to
do even without necessarily getting a ton of infield singles,

(18:04):
let's say it's just the damage is so great. And listen,
the game has changed a bit with the shift not
being in play, and not that the shift really matters
that much for him, because he usually hits the ball
over the infielders. That tends to be what he's doing,
and off and over the outfielders too. But he is

(18:25):
in a spot where I just have never seen a
player from a power hitting perspective. This locked in in
the last probably twenty five years, and it is remarkable
to watch it on a consistent basis. And if there
was going to be a sort of diminishment of his numbers,

(18:45):
and if there was a regression to the mean, if
you will, I think it would have happened by now.
His performance is the mean. This is his mean right
right now?

Speaker 4 (18:54):
This is it.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
And again he's upper in the three nineties, he's in
his walks, and I think probably the most impressive thing too,
is that. And again we could talk about which order
they are hitting in Soto, Judge, but Soto's absence has
not impacted him at all. And I think that is
that is a really really impressive statement to make. That

(19:19):
when you have a player of Sodo's caliber no longer
in your lineup, it does change how people get pitched to.
And with Judge, there's just there's no impact on his numbers,
which says a lot about him as a person and
a professional.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
All Right, So let's grab him and a guy who's
been photoshopped in the Yankee uniforms since his debut a
year ago, and that's Paul Skeins. Last year eleven and three.
This year he's four and six. But every other metric
is the same. What's more likely, Judge, it's four hundred

(19:53):
or he creates a new win regular season record for
himself by winning twelve games.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
That's a great question Fall Schemes. As you're pointing out,
it's not it's not easy to win games when you're
starting with Pittsburgh Parky. No, it's just not it's just
not uh. I think there's actually a better chance of
Judge hitting four hundred. I really do.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I love but this is this is.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Not his this Let's put it this way. As long
as Schemes is wearing the black and gold of the
Bucos and as long as they're in their current lack
of competitiveness, wins will not be the stat in which
Schemes is a dominant pitcher in. He's going to be
really good in that, in that by those standards, in that,

(20:45):
in that category, but just not not the league wide.
He's just I think double digit win seasons. It's just
crazy to say it, but that's just where the Pirates
are right now. He's still great, he still is going
to be an All Star, He's still going to be
a prepared, actual Die Young candidate, and there'll be the
eighth for Team USAT the WBC. All those things are true.

(21:06):
But he might have a losing record when the season
is done, and that is a that is an indictment
of where the Pirates are right now.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
I'm just in now.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
John Paul hond is picturing you on MLB Network tomorrow
with Lauren Shahati in the big box with your head
is really huge saying and her saying to you, did
you really say, Aaron Judge, cant it four hundred more
than Paul Paul Skeins can win twelve games? You're gonna say, yes, Yes,
I did, Yes, I did. I can see that happening tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I guys, I mean that's the numbers. Say right now, yeah,
look at look at where again schemes were about halfway
through the year. It's just my goodness, we have to
go go through and actually look at the statistical likelihood
that a pitcher would have an ERA under two with

(21:49):
by the end, they'll probably pitch one hundred and seventy innings.
So a sub to eer one hundred and seventy innings,
what's the lowest number of wins? And I'm probably I'm
not going to look this up necessarily, right, I mean,
maybe I will while you're asking the next question. I'll
look this up. I cannot I cannot imagine that it's

(22:13):
that this number is. I mean, how many guys could
have possibly had an ERA under two with one hundred
and seventy innings and one fewer than ten games. We're
about to find out, literally, as you asked me, this question.
I'm going to work on this as as we're talking
right now. It is a that's that is where that
is where the pirates and schemes are right now, all
right now.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
So speaking of pitchers, you know, look, we watched sho
Heyotani warm up during the playoffs last year, thinking, Okay,
he's throwing because he's going to pitch in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
No, no, we still haven't seen him.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
But Dave Roberts said there is a north of zero
chance that he pitches before the All Star break, meaning
it's not zero. North of zero, could be ninety percent,
it could be fifty percent, it could be ten percent,
it could be five percent, but north of zero, which
tells me that Otani potentially is on the way back.
What are you hearing is it? Is this feasible? Could
we see Otani pitch before the All Star break?

Speaker 3 (23:05):
It's feasible. And I think that why it's feasible is
that the Dodgers have certainly let him They I'm not
saying that they've had him take too much time, but
they've been very deliberate about the pace of all this,
and I think part of it is that just that
they didn't want to have him dedicated completely to the

(23:30):
pitching side of things, because obviously he's their DH So
I think that they have been monitoring this very very carefully.
They have been They have been overly careful to this point.
The reason why I think that the that this has
come up, and I think it's entirely appropriate by the
way that it has, is that the Dodgers need him

(23:52):
right now. Show is probably on a faster track to
coming back than Glass is and then Snell is. So
as long as that's the case, as long as Show
is ahead of them, then basically it's kind of his turn.
The Dodgers have had so many issues with pitchers who

(24:14):
have been hurt. They've come back, they've gone back on
the eye olt. The need, the acute need for the
Dodgers is today, is this week, is next week, is
certainly early July, let's say, and tonight's Tonight's game is
a perfect example. The Dodgers do not currently have the
pitching depth to be able to chase wins on consecutive

(24:35):
days every time. Because of where of where their depth is,
they just don't have the innings to be covered. They
cannot bring in their a bullpen all the time. Guys
like Dryer and Casparri's are too valuable for them in
the bullpen to put in starting roles. It seems on
a consistent basis they're stuck and the reality is one
of the best and not as we can't expect him,

(24:57):
by the way, to come back and pitch like Paul scheme.
But he's going to be a well above average starting
pitcher because that's what he's been throughout his career and
the need for him is now. He seems to be,
by all accounts, a very healthy player. We see him
swinging it all the time. I think that he's I'm
with Dave Roberts there, and I think that that's maybe

(25:19):
Dave Roberts's way of sort of communicating to the organization
this is the time that we need show a and
I think that it's the right thing for the manager
to say, and it may just happen right around the
All Star Game that Oltani is back on the mouth.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Carmon here from the
Fox Sports Radio studios on the Hotline with us MLB Network,
Our Superstars, our guy, John Paul Morosi at John Morosi,
leave out the age because as he said a couple
of weeks ago. Literally, Mom said, so j O n
mr Osi, did you get the answer? Because I think
I had the answer. I had a guess, and I

(25:55):
think it's been confirmed.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Oh on the the sub umber.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Two e er with at least one hundred and seventy innings,
pitch Jacob, Is it Jacob?

Speaker 4 (26:07):
No, Well there's another guy that from nineteen oh two.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yes, I actually the year that I found was nineteen
oh four, the great ned Garvin. Oh even ned Garvine.
But but the lowest in the let's see, yes, in
the divisional era, the lowest win total of any pitcher

(26:31):
with one hundred and seventy plus innings and a sub
to e ra is it's a tie for Bobby Bolin
of the nineteen sixty eight Giants in Divisional era, Tommy
John Okay eight White Sox, and Jacob de gram twenty
eighteen Mets, all with ten with men win.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
It fed be a guy named Ed Seaver with the
Tigers in nineteen oh two. Wow, head all the way down. Yes,
yea Tom Severs great great grandfather. All right, so, Jen,
b let me ask you Roman Anthony the latest guy
to get called up and Boston the White Sox had
their starter tonight. He's the eighth guy to make his
major league debut. Is it just me or does it

(27:14):
seem like we're just seeing this conga line of young
call ups a lot earlier than we used to.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
We are, and I think that it's for a couple
of reasons. I'll mention a few number one hitters now
have seen through their showcase careers more pitches, more at
bats than basically any other previous generation of hitters they
play that now. They may not be organized games all

(27:45):
the time, but they see a lot of pitching, a
lot a ton of pitching, So the hitters are in
many ways better prepared. Similarly, on the pitching side, you
don't know what they're going to break down, so you better.
Their innings are more valuable to you in the Major
League they are in Double A. That's so I think
that there's an incentive, based on the reality of the
game to promote the players. We also see this that

(28:10):
because of the the trade market, teams are very reluctant
to give up their their best prospects in trades. So
if you're not going to trade them, you might as
well play them. You might as well promote them and
having part of your major league team. And I think
also you've got a lot of teams that are trying
to be mindful of their budget, and often the least

(28:32):
expensive big change you can make to your to your
club is to promote them within they're going to make
the major league minimum. So I think that for a
lot of reasons, financial and competitive, and that's what we're
seeing seeing teams do, and I expect it's going to continue.
It's just this is the way of the modern game.
And you may even start seeing some guys that started

(28:53):
the season at Double A that are that are coming
up quickly. And Anthony Long deserved its call up. I'm
glad he got it. It's kind of a youth movement
in Boston. But the point I'll make on the American
League right now, in general, there's a lot of teams
that are flawed. There's a lot of teams that are
that have good enough team, good enough rosters to make

(29:14):
a playoff run to where the American League is anybody's league.
I think in the NL, I said a pel last week,
I think Jason the Mets is the best team I've seen.
They really are. Yeah, And so I think that the
NL is a little more top heavy the American League
is anybody's guess, and you might see a central team,
an American League central team in the World Series for

(29:38):
what would be the first time since twenty sixteen with Cleveland.
So I think we could be headed for one of
those Midwest Baseball kind of a World Series.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
JP, you might as well have just drop the bar
gold in front of this guy. His eyes glazed over
and it was the biggest smile I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Please tell me something I know. Yeah, I know we
the best team in the NATS. I know, I know
they are.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
They are. That's my in my belief based on what
I have seen, they're the best teams.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Now, two things before we let you go.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Number One, I need you to reach out to David
Stearns like I did a month ago, and say, remind
every passing day that Alonzo contract gets more and more expensive.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Okay, just everydyn.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Pete, don Pete to get it done. Now, you got it.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Second thing is John Paul I forget with all these
guys coming up, what's the name of that rookie in
Kansas City You're gonna get to see Thursday in the showcase.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
How do you say his name? I have a tough
to how do you pronounce his name?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Gle glean, But we're gonna we're gonna work on that.
It's to the anglophone here. It's how they've been saying it.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah no, but that's that's not as good as how
you say it.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
That's that's not fun. The fun way, the fun way,
the correct way. Glean and by the way, we uh we.
Italy finally won a soccer match of consequence yesterday over
over the formidable side from Moldova in World Cup qualifying

(31:09):
so to nil. But the but the manager Spaetti was
he was fired over the weekend, so we've got a
new new beginning. We need to find who that new
manager is going to because we cannot miss the World
Cup for a third straight cycle. That would not be acceptable.
So I'm I'm counting on the suit we to find
their way to to get back in the big dance.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
After tonight, I'll give you a Pochettino free, absolutely free, well,
absolutely free.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
You can have.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
We might he has an Italian surname and uh and
and he probably would be able to find a way
to to lead lead Italy to the qualifying But but again, uh,
the US. I got two teams, and I'm not terribly
thrilled about either one of them right now. So that's
that's where that's where I'm at. I don't get to
be a fan of many things, but world soccer I am,

(31:57):
and right now being a fan of my two teams
is not a ton of fun. So I've gotta we've
got to work on that good thing. I'm trying to
build the ambassador role there between the US and Italy
and find a way to somehow cobble together a team
release of Italian Americans that can maybe score some goals.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
He's on Twitter at John Morose. You check him out.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Thursday MLB Network Showcase Game of the Week Yankees, Royals,
John Paul is always buddy, I have a great one.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
We'll talk to you.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Really good, the conversations always my friend. Thank you so
much and looking forward to the next one.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
See your body, take care stuff, have a good call.
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. But guy who's been called the Greg
burhol to a Fox Sports radio because he also watched
the US men's team play tonight and left it's Steve Disager.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Don't you dare even bring up that name. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
US men's soccer did lose four nothing to Switzerland and
an exhibition in Nashville tonight, the US officially with no
shots on goal and according to stat saying, this has
never happened ever before in a US men's home game,
to be giving up four goals by the four twentieth
minute of a game. And you talked about the Dodger
pitching rotation such as it is. It's an all bullpen

(33:05):
game tonight, and in San Diego it's now padre seven
nothing over La in the bottom of the sixth. The
two Dodger pitchers so far tonight Lou Trevino and Matt Sower.
Sower was literally just recalled for this assignment today, his
fourth stint.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
With the Dodgers.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
Last year his major league debut season as a Kansas
City Royal, his ERA was over seven. But things get
better in the rotation tomorrow, Right tomorrow afternoon in San Diego,
the Dodger starter will be Justin Robleski era over seven
in the majors. Well, believe it or not, the Colorado Rockies,
with a record of twelve and fifty three. We're going

(33:43):
to the ninth inning with a home lead over the
San Francisco Giants, who have won five in a row.
The Giants have just scored four in the top of
the ninth.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Take one strikeaway Stevo.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Six five the lead at Colorado with two outs in
the bottom of the ninth. In other words, the Giants
are on the verge of a franchise record six straight
win when each of the six is by exactly one run.
The last team to do that in the Majors, apparently
the nineteen eighty eight Angels.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Six to five.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Giants lead Late in the contest, it's the Diamondbacks four
to two over the Mariners, bottom of the six. A's
lead in Anaheim one nothing against the Angels top of
the eighth, White Sox and Brewers each one. Toronto a
ten to nine winner at Saint Louis. Texas won sixteen
to four at Minnesota Aaron Judge with his twenty fourth homer.
Yankees won ten to two at Kansas City. Max Freed

(34:36):
now nine to one. Mets came back for a ten
inning win over Washington five to four. Cincinnati won it's
fifth straight one nothing at Cleveland, A complete game three
hitter for Andrew Abbott who's six and one Detroit and
the Cubs with road wins.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon,
lot from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Who coming up next?
We have a new story hot off the press. I
can tell you who will not be the next head
coach of the New York Knicks.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Who?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I can tell you what?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Two people will not be the next head coach of
the Knicks?

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Are they going into the tag team division of the WWE?

Speaker 4 (35:13):
It is Mike Rotundo and Berry Windham. Nicely done, Irs.
That's coming up next Jason and Mike Fox. But it
still could be Doc Rivers. Stop stop, maybe it's not.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Keith k Yo u yes, keithk Hernandez
into pitch for the Dodgers in the sixth inning as
the Padres leave the Dodgers nine to nothing.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
This is the equivalent of that NBA game that you
always talk about of Hey, it's the second minute of
the second quarter. Why's that guy got giant ice bags
on his knees?

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Keyk is in in the sixth inning of a bullpen
game for the Dodgers, sixth inning, the sixth.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
This would be the definition of a bullpen game, wouldn't
it be? That's true? That is true. I mean, if
you're if.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
You're going to lean in, I mean, this is the
if you're going to fire a coach eventually and you
know what's happening, get rid of him here if you
know it's game is done and you don't care and.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Take the l he k hernand is sixth inning.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Now, hold on to your hats, because here's the topic
that's going to take us through the next half hour
here on the show. According to Shamsterrania of ESPN, this
story is is about fifteen minutes old right now with
an update on it.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
The New York.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Knicks requested permission to speak to t Wolves head coach
Chris Finch. Chris Finch, Chris Finch, what about Miles Finch?
Miles Finch, Miles Finch had all the ideas then notebooks
that we can do.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
It's like the notebook, almost like Henry Winkler's notebook in the.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Peaches are vulnerable. Okay, I don't know how to execute to.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
The Knicks requested permission to speak to t Wolves head
coach Chris Finch and Rockets head coach Emeo Udoka for
their head coaching job.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Number Mark Stein talked about this a week ago. The
two names he heard.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Was Jason and Udoka, So they want to talk to
Chris Finch and Udoka. However, were denied on both, so
both the t Wolves and the Rockets said, no, We're
not going to allow you permission to talk to these
guys to be our new head coach. Okay, what about
Jason Kidd? Glad you asked? The follow up to this

(37:34):
by Sean's just.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Four minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
The Knicks have not requested permission for Mavericks coach Jason
Kidd as of Tuesday Night Tummies, but sources tell ESPN
that the Mavericks would reject them. So they asked for
Chris Finch and Udoka. We're told no, they have not

(37:58):
asked about Jason Kidd, but sources tell ESPN the Mavericks
would reject them. So it looks like maybe now the
Knicks A Knicks are now, oh for three with guys
and they have they haven't even they can't even get
guys in the interview because the guys are going for
guys that have jobs.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
But well, but that's just right.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
When's the best time to look for a job now
when you have one? But the thing is, they've got
to let you out.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean that, look it. This is where things get
really weird for the Knicks. But let me just say
the first thing. What did I say was the number
one guarantee I gave you after the Knicks fire tips
every grade?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Right, No, stop, don't don't. You can't say that name.
You can't say that name on the show.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
You're not show. You can't say it on the show.
Dump it tight shirt, dump it, dump him saying that name.
Don't say that he talk to ours?

Speaker 5 (38:47):
What hours of doc rivers, quotes and quips and impersonations.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I hate to say I told you so, But what
did I tell you the minute they fired TIBs?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
What was going to happen?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
There was gonna be a new name every day connected
to the Knicks. Now, the last night you started your
Jason Kidd not interviewed. Not well, because Jason Kid, they
still haven't talked to him. They still have requests. Will
haven't talked to him yet. I said quest there was
going to be a new name every day because the
Knicks we're going to enjoy this period of we are
a destination and we're gonna go big game honting. Right,

(39:21):
So what did we get? We got Jason Kidd right
all right?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
We had we had Rick Patino right away, then we
had Jay Wright, then we had Jason Kidd, and now
we have Chris Finch and Udoka. Right now, we've got
five coaches in the last five or six days since
I said we're gonna get a new name every day
to keep the Knicks in the conversation. That's five guys
in the last five or six days that we've heard,

(39:45):
and I'm sure there will be two more tomorrow. Hey,
the Knicks could also reach out to Steve Kerr, but
they have not done that yet. But they'll be told
no by the Golden See.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
So I could be an insider by just saying this, right,
I told you we've been doing this for the last
week plus of Well, they should talk to this they
So can I just do that?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Of course, call myself an insider. And get the paycheck
commentary with insider Insider. You know, I hear things from
the guy with the place.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
You'd have to sell advertising on Twitter. That's the way
you can't just get not just gonna fork over money
to you. It's not gonna, I mean, someone will. I'm
a powerful and attractive.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Bank, but lean and mean.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
Okay, I think kind of funny, I would, I would
I make interesting conversation points about sports things.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I think.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I think try try Twitter first, see if you can
monetize that, you know, and then then then go from
there monetizing weird space.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah, I know it is. Jake got to make it work.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Man.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
It's a wild West. I got to West like n
AL and college sports. So here is what is going
on right now.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
The Knicks tried to get permission for Chris Finch and
email Doka. We're told no, they have not requested permission
to Jason Kidd, but sources tell esp and the Mavericks
would reject them.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Dark Rivers coming up next.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
We break this down, and I tell you, if they're
going down this road, who's the next team they should
call for permission and do it now.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
That's next.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
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