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Jason’s not lying when he says whatever happens tomorrow with the Knicks, he’ll live with the results. A Barkley and Shaq guarantee about Inside the NBA next year on ESPN. And more Dodgers/Yankees chatter.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hello, Welcome in Side Hour too, the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Chop up, and I need to describe the action going
on right now because uh, the game being on Apple TV.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Justin Frossberg cannot see the first real must see baseball.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Game of the year. Yes, Apple TV's got Yankees Dodgers. Yeah.
I keep sending him stick figure drawings. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
I really can't believe Tony Gonsolin is still in this
game for the Dodgers.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
He has given up four home runs. Jason, it's a
long weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, but dude, come on, man, four home runs. It's like,
are you gonna give the game away?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I mean, come on, We've talked about it with.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
The n So this is the this is the Pacers
version of Hey, we're gonna put it away, or this
is the the te Wolves version of hey, we're done,
so we're not even gonna try.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
We got we got it off.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
No, this is I need dudes trying to steal every
out I can because I'm gonna need my bullpens Saturday
and Sunday too, because Max Freed is on the other side.
We talked about this at the start of the show.
For those just joining us, right, what do you got?
You got him and Rodin that have been doing all
the heavy lifting uh for this squad, uh for the
Yankees thus far. So you know going into this game,

(01:44):
it's the the one that is going to be a battle,
uh and and a fight to try to get your
w Look, you let Gonsol and take his lumps if
you need to.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Jason God, now I gotta ask you for all I gotta.
I got it real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
If you're saying Gonsolin is giving up four runs, yeah,
then Max Fried has given up six.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's Matt. It's just Matt. Here you go.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
If you here's your fun one though, coming into the game,
o Tani was plus two sixty to Homer check Judge
was plus one fifty.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
There you go. Yeah, you you cash that in the
first inning.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, no, exactly, another one of those great Hey, I'm
licking bills over here in the first.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Now I gotta ask you for I gotta I gotta
be honest. I gotta ask you because it's becoming.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
Way they say you gotta be honest. I know that
means instantly you're not being honest.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
No, it means I need to be a little sarcastic.
But it's okay because it became a thing in the
last hour of the show last night. So I gotta
ask you with my best Galston suck you good, bro,
you got you're good bro.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know I'm not not at all. He can't see
the carnage. He's got to watch.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Looking well well, but you know what, in his mind,
he can put it off until something concrete is put
in front of him to say, hey, this is true
and act.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
And well, I can't lie to the world.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I'm not gonna sit here and say it's five to
two Yankees if it's like, you know, eight nothing Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Guys, I got a fever and the only prescription on
me is more old tiny homers.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Well you may get it now. Is he's batting for
the Yankees, except you're not getting it now. Max Free
just struck him out, so one out in the bottom
of the third inning. The Yankees continue to lead the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
By the fun The best part is, I don't know
if you're being serious or not.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
No, I'm actually one hundred, but I'm not justin here.
All right?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
How about you do this deal? How do we do
this deal? Because you can't see the game. I will
not lie to you about this game all night. I
will not lie to you once about it.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, and I'm batman, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And I'll continue to check in with you, and I'll
keep asking you. You know, you good, bro, you good?
I'll keep asking asking you.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Know though, justin as Smith was relaying the score and situation,
he took his best Walter Cronkite cadence to where there
was no you know, false steps.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
There were there were no hey, maybe playing around with you.
So now it's the is it a Magic Johnson tweet?
Or is Jason lying to you? Those are games we're
gonna play.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Going It is Jason lying to you. Yeah, what do
you got, Frostburg?

Speaker 5 (04:13):
That was our friend Rodney Pete sitting with him.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Oh, what because I couldn't tell because he high fives
somebody and I couldn't see who was off screen. Rodney,
that completely makes sense that it's magic.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
And Rodney, okay, all right, hey, you know what, why
don't you do this?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Oh wait a minute, Frostburg, You're gonna be my best
I'll be your best friend right now. Since we know Rodney,
you call him and you stay on the phone with
him for the next three hours, and he describes all
the plays to you from behind home plate.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
You know that's a bad idea. You want a good one? Well, Rodney,
we say, hand the phone the magic. Then we played
the Oh okay, that's about magic.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Did you tweet this?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
And it is a better idea than what just happened,
which is Aaron Judge making a sliding catch into the
gap in right center field to save a double.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
He turned a I caught that just.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
To Oscar Hernandez, it looks like it's gonna be that
he caught a ball. Aaron Judge on the run and
he catches it chance it's a dive. He holds onto it.
Uh yeah, no, this is just I told you. I'm
not gonna lie to you, man.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I am not gonna lie. I know, I'm not not tonight,
not when you can't.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
No, Unfortunately, this one was true. Uh you didn't drop it. No,
you know, I will say this this it almost looked
like he was in slow motion and I'm the dive
because that was the most calculated I'm not jacking up
my shoulder dive to the ground I've ever seen in fire.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh yeah, this wasn't one of those Hey I'm full o.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, No, this is hey, I'm gonna look like I'm
like when you dive, when you kind of you kind
of crouch down and you dive, you're already kind of
on your knees.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Like play.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
You had him like Superman.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, well he dies. It was a diving catch. I
said it was a diving guy.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
I mean, it's also radio, it's the it's theater of
the mind. So here it was superhuman.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
It was like he was put into a Superman trailer
right there on that diving catch to rob Lex Luthor
or in this case, taoscar Hernand is of an extra
base hit.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, it's happening again, justin I'm not gonna lie to
you tonight, man, I know it's tough for you.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Because you know, because look does it.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Dozens of people across the country are watching this game
on Apple right now and you're not so I I
I get that right now. So again, yes, five two
Yankees over the dog. Now you mentioned I don't know.
He hasn't texted me, So either he's found it and
he's fine, or he's really mad and he's broken his TV,
or he shot it like Elvis.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
So one of those two things has happened. There ain't
nothing good on.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
If he shot his TV, though, he'd show up here
and we'd go, hey, yeah, I lost my I shot
my TV.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Can he get you studio?

Speaker 6 (06:56):
But it's not on.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
You got the game? I mean yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
So uh so, speaking of now, you said I should
check out my dad, I think now, speaking of the
Eastern Conference Finals, Game six, you're gonna think I'm lie.
But again again, first of all, I never lied. It's
a special double truth Friday. Whatever, Double double Truth Friday,
whatever happens tomorrow with the Knicks and the Pacers, I'm

(07:20):
cool with. I'm not gonna go crazy. I'm not gonna
be nut.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
If the Knicks somehow win and get to Game seven,
that's a different story. Right now, I'll be a Monday night,
I'll be an insane lunatic with Game seven at the garden.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
But if they.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Lose tomorrow, Okay, they were down three to one in
the series. The math hardly ever works, right, Teams are
like five thousand and four when you're up three to
one in the series. Yes, sometimes it gets once in
a great, great while a team can win a game.
But the Knicks would have to win tomorrow, they'd have
to go back and win Game seven. Pace already won.

(07:55):
There's reasons why teams don't blow three one leads, and
the Knicks have no one but themselves to blame because
as well as the Pacers have played, and clear it's
the best series in the playoffs they have played.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Again, we talked about this.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
They've had four guys, four different players have all time
NBA great performances, right, Pascal Siaka about the performance of
his career. All right, Halliburton in two games has had
the performance of his career, but especially in Game four.
Yet the lucky shot in Game one him in Game four.
We talked, We've talked about Siakam and when you look
at Nathin twice. Now off the bench with twenty points

(08:30):
in like four minutes. They've had that. Still, the Knicks
haven't played well and defensively they've not been what they
should be. And when you get down three to one,
what can I really expect? So if they win tomorrow,
great and I'll be excited to watching and it's gonna
be awesome. It'd be a great thing. But I'm not
surprised they lose by twenty. I'm not surprised if that happens.

(08:50):
And really, if they lose this game, I will be
absolutely okay and say, all right, not our year. We
were a little we were close, clearly because we're two
games away from the NBA Finals. Is this the roster
we need? Is Karl Anthony town still you know, the
guy to build off of and be the number two
guy there to Jalen Brunson. Or do they need to
go get a better play making forward as a trade

(09:12):
for Giannis have to happen? Can they trust that Michal
Bridges is gonna be more of the guy we saw
against the Celtics than the rest of the year. Like
these are the questions that will have to be asked.
But whatever happens tomorrow, I'm telling you, Mike, I'm gonna
be fine with the outcome. I'm not gonna go unless
there's another big Halliburton shot that bounces off the rim
up in the air and they all make the choking
sign and the fans make the choking side, then I

(09:34):
won't be okay. But if it's your garden variety Pacers win, yeah,
I'm gonna be fine.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I'll be absolutely fun.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, then you're gonna be more calm than I am
because I started to like this squad.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, sure, I'm sure I've.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Made fun of kats in ability to give you a
consistent defensive effort all season long.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
You can go check the tape, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Other folks might have just come around because they decided to,
you know, dabble in some basketball something.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
You and I to bottle lines like that's gonna kill
you when.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
It matters, And sure enough it has right guys like
Josh Hart, guys that played that style right. It's energy,
it's a frenetic pace, and you feel that after your
forty eight minutes they've left everything out there. Jalen Brunson,
you're unlikely superstar size.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Stature his I mean, look, he's built like a fire plug,
yet he's still able to find his own shot. The
tear drop jump shots over guys six inches tall of them,
all of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's all I've comeing off. And then there's Thibodeau.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I have a love hate relationship with that guy, going
back to his time with the Bulls, like because there
were times like that's exactly what you need, tough love.
Oh wait, you just ground these guys down to nothing.
It's why we celebrate you know, Joe Kim Noah as
a try harder guy.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
You had him there in New York too, you know
what it's all about. It's like, yeah, that's a glue
kind of guy. So yeah, if they go out and
they lose terribly, then blank them.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
I've invested too much at this point. All right, it's
a four point spread there there.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You're gonna be more mad than me that that because no, no, no,
you must have bet it.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Tell me the truth. You bet it. You bet you're
not at six, you bet not at all the truth. Yeah,
I'm telling you the truth. I got that game six. No,
not yet, not.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yet, and we'll get there. We'll get there as a
tip off approaches. But but in the interim, no, it's
it's again. You watch enough of this squad and you
and I have been doing this show with prosper I
mean it's eleven years right with Steve, and Alex came
in pretty early in the run, so he's watched it too,
which means you get a little bit invested.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
And frankly, I.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Worry about you, know, your your mentals with some of
this stuff to ride the lightning kind of moments.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
And the more you try to sell me that everything's okay,
I know you're not. No, so I come back to
calling you a liar. No, dude, I'm not. I'm good.
We got to Game six, It's great. Oh that. I
don't think I'll be fun, sir. I'm not lying to you.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
If they lose, I'll be okay. If they lose in
a way where again, where something insane happens, or Rick
Carlisle comes off the bench to hit a three and
win the game, Okay, then I'm gonna be upset. But
if it's a if it's your garden variety, hey, you
know things not going our way and we lose, Okay,
you're down three one, you're supposed to lose.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I've come you grips with the fact that that's what
it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
But you've played this series, and you know, if we
played the minute to minute game kind of like you
go back last round, we had some fun with it
talking about it with the Thunder and the Nuggets. Right,
even though it goes to seven games, if you watched
it minute to minute, was there any doubt who the
better team was?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
There were just spurts in the game where suddenly their
clawback in and you have a couple of miraculous finishes
to extend the series. All credit to Denver, But you
knew that Oklahoma City was the better team.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I'm not so sure that Indiana's the better team here.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Well, look again, they're playing at the highest level they've
ever played at. Again, when you have four players four
times in this series, different players have had their the
games of their lives. What can you do, right, I mean,
that's exactly what it is. What can you do when
that happens?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
And you know what I'm gonna say that he's snicking.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Game one, looking like I give me the ball, Give
me the ball, right, I mean, of those guys, none
of those Rainbow Yeah, no, I got it. But like
you just keep going to it. The line is four.
The line is four, which means you're gonna be gripping
if Vegas is right. And guess what, They've been pretty
damn spot on in most of these games, which means
it's coming down to a sequence down the stretch, which

(13:45):
means you are not gonna be okay. I'll be fine,
and I'll be the first one to say, Hey, maybe
the Knick should trade their entire roster for the Pacers
rosters because clearly the Pacers are better playing at Madison
Square Garden the Knicks are. So let's get these guys
who can jacked up to come play at MSG.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Let's do it. Let's Jason. You know who's gonna be
out the game in Laura tomorrow? Who's coming tomorrow?

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Popps?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
That doesn't matter. Shallowy is gonna be at the game
tomorrow too. It'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Maybe he wonts.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Well, it's only after Nicks wins. Apparently it's only twice
in the last seven days. Okay, exit out about a
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(14:35):
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Speaker 3 (14:40):
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Speaker 1 (14:41):
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Speaker 3 (14:47):
Right after we get watch out tirt single Well.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Coming up next, we have not one, but two big
football stories. It looks like people in college football are
getting a little I agree with the SEC and the
Big Ten. Plus the latest on a certain quarterback who
is still trying to figure out if he wants to
play this year. That's next, Jason and Mike Happy Friday,

(15:12):
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Speaker 3 (15:15):
I was waiting for the Mike North you selfish pass.
I was waiting for that one, all right.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
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Speaker 1 (15:33):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well dressed Hobo.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yankee still lead the Dodgers five too, Yankees batting in
the top of the fifth inning. They have at four
home runs so far tonight off of Tony Gonsolin, who
remains in the game, So you know, moreho runs could
be coming soon.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Hey, it's slowed down. I'm just.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
They got they hit themselves out as like punching yourself
out as a box.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, he's gonna get tired eventually. He's just exhausted. Right,
let's just let's just let him keep going and then
I'll be done. Two stories out of football.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
First college football, then we get to everybody's favorite NFL
quarterback who is still deciding if he wants to play
all the drama the last couple of days with how
the college football playoff is going to expand, right, the
Big five plus eleven model, which is five teams, five
conference champions and eleven at large teams starting to gain

(16:30):
a lot of momentum. The SEC and the Big Ten,
of course, want guarantees that more teams from their conference
will make it. And I told you, I'm sick of
there saying, uh, you know, we've we you know, we'll
we'll just we'll just do what we want because we're
the greatest conferences in the co I'm sick of there
we're better than you. But I gotta be honest today,

(16:52):
Big twelve commissioner Brett Yormark said that yeay, he loves
the five and eleven college football playoff model. Okay, great, right,
the warkmage, you get loving.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
It, the quicker.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
We're gonna get a sixteen team playoff in college football,
probably for next year. But he said, even though the
Big ten in the SEC are leading the discussions, these
conferences have quote a great responsibility to college football that
goes along with it to quote do what's right for
college football and not to do anything that just benefits

(17:22):
to conferences. I have a lot of faith in the process.
I think we'll land in the right place. Now let
me just say that's cute. No, I love that. Hey,
you need to make sure that you are beholden to
all of college football, because you know what, the the
you know what the big ten in the SEC are saying, yeah, yeah, no,
we're gonna do whatever the hell we want. We're gonna

(17:42):
we'll have our own playoff if we want to. And really,
good luck with a second tier TV contract and we
have the SEC Big ten tier one of college football
season where we're playing against each other and there's big
games all the time, and we're having our own playoff,
and we're having a sixteen team playoff and half the
teams are from the seeing hath the team from the
Big Ten. We're gonna make all kinds of money.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's nice. It's great that Brett Yarmark.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Is like, Hey, I'm gonna appeal to your sense of
goodwill and what it means and stand up for college football.
All those cops that's gonna say, Yeah, whatever, man, we're
gonna do whatever the hell we want to. Good luck
with you and the ACC and whatever the hell else
you want to make happen. I've done good luck with
all of that, because yeah, we're gonna do our thing.
Like this is this whole stand up for the entirety

(18:27):
of college football that's completely not happening.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Well, this speech and what we are talking about here
is a guy who's in a hall of mirrors, and
what you see in one mirror is a reality. In
this case, it's it's a position of strength, it's a
it's all for the good of college football. The pie
expands whatever else, and then you look in the other mirror,

(18:51):
like the what's really going on in the guy's head,
maybe his shadow, you know, depending on your perspective, whatever
you want. It's a guy cowering, going, please don't cut
us out. We don't cut us out. We don't need
it a huge slice of that pie, but damn it,
it's good pie. And it's really flavorful and rich and sugary,
and it's everything we need. Oh and it funds everything

(19:13):
we do, so please don't cut us out.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
But in this speech, it's saying that without saying it right,
it's the ah, you know, for the good of college No, no, no,
that means we're gonna acquiesce to whatever they need to
stay part.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Of the picture. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Look, it's it's the the SEC and the big they'll
just nod their heads and go yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Uh huh uh huh uh huh.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah you're done. Okay, that's great, that's really nice. But
this is what we're gonna do. And and and I
can't say that I can even have sympathy because all
college football is done is let the conferences do whatever
the hell they want to. They're in the place we
are now with not happy with having to use nil,
not happy with the transfer portal, not ha be with

(20:00):
how college football scenes are reinventing itself because they all
have decided we're gonna do what's best for our conference.
There's no there's no one to keep them honest. Right,
you can't expect that, hey, the five big conference heads
will put their heads together or come out with something.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Good for everybody.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
This is not like baseball in nineteen twenty five. That's
not gonna happen. It's gonna be whatever's good for me. Oh,
I can sign a billion dollar deal. These two conferences
can sign billions of dollars of deals with Fox for
the next ten years for strictly SEC and Big ten
games on TV and a Big ten SEC playoff.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh, we can do that. Of course we're gonna do that.
Of course that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
They're not gonna say, hey, wait, wait wait, this all
sounds great, right, this sounds awesome, but you know, we
really got to make sure the Big twelve and what's
left of it get No, that's not that's absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And they've all brought this on themselves.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
There's there's no way college football can say okay, but no, no, no,
you decided to go down this road because there's no
one to hit the emergency and every five minutes college
football changes because of this. Yeah, there's it's great to
have this thought. But I'm hoping that if I'm your mark,
you're not taking what you said seriously. This is just
something to say in the press to try to come
back at later, because if you honestly think that those

(21:15):
conferences are going to do what they can to help
the ACC in the Big twelve, yet, no, there's no
way that's happening, not even close.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, I said this for a long time, man, Altruism.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Is a myth like the Yeddi, right, I don't know, man,
I think the Yeddi might be more has a better
chance of being real than altruism.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
You know, as it came out of my mouth, I
started thinking the same thing.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's like, oh, probably the wrong. We haven't reinvented the
Dodo bird yet.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
We know, but I think soon though, right though, don't
Eventually it's gonna go back in the Mini dire Wolves
and everything else we got run around anyway, The point
just being, yeah, there might be some some good that
goes through it, right, and and you might have some
well intentioned people at but they're not doing it just

(22:05):
for the sake of well, you know what it'd be.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's nice for those other colleges. Yeah, and they pat
them on the head, you know that little this little
you know son in somebody you just doing? Yeah, how
you doing their sport? That's kind of what the SEC
and Big Ted keep doing.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Everybody are huge.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm gonna mess up your hair as I walk by. Hey, Sporto,
how you doing?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
And the other conference are like the kid dressed up
in the in the private school uniforms.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Dad, my hair? Come on, you know it, Sporto, you're
doing a good all right, that's great. Yeah, let's let's
have this meeting.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Right, here's all the heads of the different conferences. Hey,
why are there only two seats at that big table
over there with all the you know, meat and.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
The expensive stuff. You are over there, dude, that's cut
up hot dogs, cut up hot dog and plastic forks.
What are you doing to me?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
It's exactly how that's going, Exactly how that's going.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallow dome.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Believe me, Yeah, I love to think that that's not
where college football is headed.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
We got more NFL coming up in ninety seconds with
everybody's favorite Aaron Rodgers Story of the Day. But first,
Steve de Sager, who's been called the Tony Gonsolin of
Fox Sports Radio, is with us now to tell us
what's trending. That's because every few minutes Steves looks over
his shoulder and go, Wow, that ball's going really far.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
I'm keeping my pitches up just as Tony Gonsol. It
is this the evening point. He has settled down for
what it's worth. They're trailing five two to the Yankees.
It may not be worth much. Bottom of the fifth
at Dodger Stadium. He allowed four home runs early. He's
made it through five innings, eighty pitches. They didn't have
to burn the whole bullpen. But yeah, it might be
an l for the whole for the home team. And

(23:56):
by the way, Tony Gonsolin is now alive.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Then.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
This is his sixth start, allowed eight home runs, and
last year he gave up about twenty homers in twenty starts.
The guy who's starting tomorrow night's game on Fox TV
for la Land and Knack has allowed twenty home runs
in about twenty starts in his major league career. Yoshinobu
Yamamoto pitches Sunday night.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
So what you're saying is TJ, he has a knack
for giving up the long run.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yes, DJ, Yes, hopefully he wasn't watching this tonight we
did by Sharona.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Was that ball hit far off of landon nack?

Speaker 6 (24:32):
We had a first inning home run from Aaron Judge tonight,
solo shot his nineteenth. Shoho Tani answered for La with
a solo homer bottom of the first, his twenty first
of the year. Tonight marks the first time in Major
League history that both raining MVPs homered in the first
inning of the same game, and in fact, apparently once before,

(24:53):
just not in the same inning. Once before we had
had raining MVPs homer in the same game. It was
Barry Bonds and McGill Tahada in two thousand and three, Well,
the Mets were winners at home over Colorado four to two.
Francisco Lindor two solo homers, he had three hits, three
runs scored. Rockies have lost six in a row. And
by the way, a great Sarah Lang stat for you,

(25:15):
the Mets when Lindor homers have won twenty five straight
games in the regular season. The all time record is
twenty nine straight wins by a team when one specific
players homers, and that goes back to the Brooklyn Dodgers
Carl Ferrello in the early fifties. So wow, this was
the good luck charm and Lindor's was a leadoff homer

(25:35):
and later another home run. So the Mets at home
twenty two and seven, and it's looking like the Rockies
will lose yet another series. They have yet to win
a series this season, and the Mets are only a
game back of the first place Phillies in the NLS.
Milwaukee won at Philadelphia six to two. Brewers have won
five straight. Christian Yelich three run homer and a solo

(25:57):
shot wins for the Orioles and reds wins for the Giants.
In Toronto. Angels ended a five game losing streak, winning
four to one at Cleveland. Jose Ramirez of the Guardians
had his twenty one game hit streak in Boston ended
a five game losing streak, winning in Atlanta five to one.
The Boston starter and he pitched into the fifth. Lucas Giolito,
who is a high school teammate of the Yankee starter tonight,

(26:20):
Max Freed, who's five to seven to zero for his
new Yankees team Houston, a two to one winner over
Tampa Bay with one in the eighth at a home
run in the ninth Texas in Detroit. With wins, Tigers
have won five straight. Cal Raley and seattles Homert his
twentieth of the year. Mariners lead the Twins four to
two in the bottom of the sixth. It's now Nationals
eight six at Arizona, bottom of the sixth, Padres are

(26:43):
holding on three to two over the Pirates, bottom of
the eighth now, Pirates had just loaded the bases and
again to the sixth at Dodger Stadium, Yankees lead LA
five to two. The Knicks play Saturday at Indiana. Pacers
up three games to two in the East Finals. NBA
Finals Starday in Oklahoma City to the WNBA New York

(27:03):
six to zero after winning at Washington and right now
big lead at Las Vegas for the Aces against LA.
It's final seconds of the third seventy eight sixty two
for Las Vegas. Looks like the LA Sparks will fold
it two and five.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve o So from college
football to the NFL, where this has been yet another
week of What's up with Aaron Rodgers? Right, a week
that's been filled with no news from him. Yet it
seems like every day there's a Steelers player or a
former teammate or some kind of analyst who says, what

(27:38):
are the Steelers dealing with Aaron Rodgers? What are they
dealing with this? What are they waiting for? The guy
doesn't want to play? Move on, go get somebody else.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
The week began with the fact that maybe Kirk Cousins
is their backup plan in Pittsburgh if they can't get
Aaron Rodgers to play, and clearly he's got to make
a decision sometime soon. Now, outside of Rogers, I really
want to focus on this because this really is the
big thing.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
This story is why Pittsburgh needs.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
A new head coach and general manager, all right, because
I look, Mike Tomlin's been a great head coach for
a long time. Omar Kahn's been a really good GM
because they bring a lot of talent in and every
year the Steelers are good enough to be a periphery
playoff team, but they're so bad at picking quarterbacks and
deciding on quarterbacks and quarterbacks strategy, Like, can you trust

(28:30):
that they're gonna be able to usher the Steelers into
the next era of football? They have decided to take
the most important position on the field and make it
a necessary evil. We're gonna try to get by met
with when Rogers decides he wants to play, he's gonna
be our guy. Right, you've done that now the last
few years it is not worked out. Right, Mike Tomlin

(28:52):
shows up and Ben Roethlisberger is already there.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
So guess what.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Didn't have to worry about a quarterback for a long time,
which has been awesome for Mike Tomlin because when he
didn't have to worry about picking a quarterback, Hey, I'm
able to get the rest of the positions right and
everything is fantastic. Now he's got to pick a quarterback.
And what's happened since Ben Roethlisberger's retired. It has been
failure after failure from Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph all the
way through Russell Wilson justin fields and now hey, we're

(29:19):
gonna bring Mason Rudolph back and maybe we get Aaron Rodgers.
Like nobody thinks about the quarterback position like this. There
is no team in the NFL that treats the quarterback
position this way. And whether it doesn't matter if it's
Mike Tomlin's strategy to say, I want to have the
quarterback be a necessary evil position, which is stupid. Right,

(29:41):
you need to have playmakers, right, this is how teams win.
Yet Mike Tomlin has this antiquated strategy of I want
to win emphasizing the running game, emphasizing short passing game,
emphasizing defense. That's not how you win in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Now, man, it is twenty twenty five. I know this right.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
The football knowledge you have if you could run rings
around all of us here at Fox Sports Radio, Yet
you don't know that you need to go get a quarterback.
And it's not well. In the draft they didn't like
you could have drafted. You could have drafted guys early
this year. You could have gone and gotten a guy left.
You had multiple chances in the last three years to
make a bold decision to get a quarterback. You tell
me there's no good quarterbacks out there. You couldn't convince

(30:20):
one quarterback that you want to go after and say, hey,
come to Pittsburgh and be our guy here. No, you
tried to go cheap with Russell Wilson. It didn't work right.
Kenny Pickett started, and you know, as much as he struggled,
he was really out the door before he got another chance.
Whatever you have done, you're bad at it, and you're
bad at it and you have a bad strategy. So
looking forward, if I want to compete, because the Steelers

(30:42):
have a much higher level of what's acceptable than a
lot of other teams in the NFL. Look, I'm just
happy to get back. If the Jets even are five
hundred in December, I'm going to be doing backflips. But
the Steelers, hey, this is a different level of what
we're used to. We need to be a playoff team,
super Bowl threat. I don't know that they can get
there anymore with how things are currently configured. Because nobody

(31:03):
seems to understand the importance of the quarterback position in
the NFL. You can't just say I want it to
be a necessary evil. Nobody wins that way.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, I think what you and I as let's let's
go into our fandom for a minute. We don't we
don't know what consistent winning looks like.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
So perhaps you're paralyzed.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
And you're just drawn to the fact that you haven't
you know, gone off the rails, that every December you're
playing meaningful football.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
We don't know that, We don't know that world.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And it's something every time we get into it's like, boy,
if you make this move, how much better would it
be with this roster and that one?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Like he's got this.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Streak, So as long as the streak's alive, right, but
as long as it's like we talk about with athletes
and it's like, hey, I need to see this, we
did it with Anthony Edwards. Check out the best of
podcasts from this week.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
All of the content that we've done go back to
Kyler Murray when it was ah he plays video against whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Guy was number one pick in two sports. Obviously what
he was doing worked for him until it didn't. For
Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
He's still going, hey man, we're still you know, nine
and eight or ten and seven and in the.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Playoff mix every year. So I haven't fallen off the rails.
It works well enough, it's like, but don't you want more?
It's like, but if you take that big swing, are
you fearing that you're going six and eleven?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
If it doesn't work, is that the thing?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Like?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
I know this works because if I control all these
other variables, all that guy has to do is not
throw up on himself consistently.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
And they haven't.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Even going back to Kenny Pickett was a great no.
But they wont enough games. So yeah, it's it's a
strange place to be. I aspire to have that problem
in my fandom.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Boy, we're just good enough, but we're not getting over.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
We won forty one games as a White Sox fan
last year. Exit Out about a Fresca exits Swollen Dome.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carbon Live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Coming up next.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
After last night, I feel pretty confident about what one
big future of the NBA is going to be next year.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
What is it that's next right here?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
This be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Well, it doesn't look like Max Friede's
gonna be around much longer. Seventy four pitches in Dodgers
threatening with two on and nobody out. In the bottom
of the sixth inning, it is five to three because
sho Heo Tani has taken free deep for the second

(33:45):
time tonight. This much the right center field, and I
think he missed first base when he was round in
the bag and he had to go back and touch
it like he does. He saw the ball go over
the fence and he stopped and he went back to
touch first base.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
You think he knew I didn't touch it, right, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I think he was watching to see because Judge mayor
may not have had a play on it.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
The trajectory of it as it's getting ready to clear
the wall, it looks like Judge is going to try
to make elite and see if he can keep it
in his glove. Does drop a lot of that is true.
The analytics are strong. Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And now a double off the wall and left has
made it five to four. I think that's gonna be
it for Max Freed Freddie Freeman with an opposite field double,
Dodgers have runners at second and third, nobody out. They
now trail the Yankees five.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
So now they bring in yes no, yes, now yes.
Now that's exactly how it's gonna go. We see what happened.
He drives.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
He's playing bring it on the bullpen cart and he's
playing the guitar everything else. Yeah, I think, uh so,
we'll keep you posted on here again Freddie Freeman doubling
off the wall in right center.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Uh again.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Five to four Yankees with the lead, as the Dodgers
continued to bat in the bottom of the sixth inning.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Now, after last.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Night, I really feel like we are in the We
are in the the pathway of something that's gonna be
incredible next year. Right now, last night could have been
the final night for the NBA inside the NBA on TNT, right,
we know what's going away and and the new show
is going to ESPN for next year.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Well most like, yeah, same show, but it's good. But
you know, Shack goes.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
On last night he says, can I have a minute,
and he says that we're coming for jobs next year.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
We're coming to dominate. We're going here.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's the same crew, we're all going, but it's gonna
be Everything is gonna be new, and we're gonna do X,
Y and Z and basically putting everybody on notice that
we're coming to ESPN. We're coming for jobs next year.
This is going to be and I'll tell you right now,
I could already tell you it's gonna be incredibly fun
for us. It's gonna be an absolute headache for ESPN

(36:03):
because already you saw Charles Barkley the way he has
talked this postseason. I'm not gonna go on any shows.
I don't care. They're not gonna tell me what to say.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
It's gonna be a disaster for Barkley and ESPN.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
They're gonna constantly want him to say certain things or
not say certain things. He's gonna go off the rails
with stuff he already has said. They're not gonna tell
me what to say, right and now you have Shaq
saying we're coming for jobs. Whoa dude, what do you
mean You're coming for jobs? What does that mean? Can't
you just go and do the show? So you know,
there's gonna be some kind of rivalry that goes over
the top with that show and McAfee and Steven. It's

(36:37):
gonna be awesome, and it's gonna be ESPN eating itself
from the inside out. They're gonna be how do we
how do we keep track of all of these controversies
where people are going over the top. There's gonna be
personalities who are gonna pick sides, and there's gonna be
analysts with ESPN that side, oh so and so, like
this tweet that Shaq had and McAfee's friend like this

(37:00):
eat here and all that. It's gonna be so entertaining
for us. And ESPN's gonna say, I need may locks.
All the executives gonna say I need may locks every
single day because there's gonna be something every eight hours
where one of our shows is at odds with another show. Right,
it was enough with McAfee and all the stuff you
hear all the time. Now he's fighting with John mellencamp.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Good luck. Uh, you know he's fine.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
But now next year when here comes inside the NBA
and they're gonna say, we don't care, because I'll tell
you what, inside the NBA has a lot of idgaf right,
they could have stopped doing the show.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
We're gonna keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
We're gonna do another hell we want to, and if
it goes away, it goes away, we don't care. We'll
figure something else out. It's gonna be so great for us,
and it's gonna be the biggest headache in the world
for ESPN.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
If you believe the math between Shack and Barkley, they're
worth that combine what one point five billion or so
sure between them. So what do they care? Who's gonna
stand in their way? I mean, this is gonna be
completely out of Anchorman News team of sembom the street
runs red with. I mean, who the hangars on of
McAfee r with their blood. I mean, that's kind of

(38:03):
where we're going.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Don't forget if you're if you're gonna have a war,
don't forget us over here at the unnamed Peter Schrager Show,
they're all just showing up and they want to fight.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
But that's just it, right, you're gonna have all that
the verbal slap fighting. Remember, we just had the long,
long run to the quote unquote death of journalism with
everybody handwringing over around the horn going out of business.
I honestly hadn't seen an episode in fifteen years or so,
So good for them. But all of that to say,

(38:38):
it's it's entertainment and that's what they're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
They're gonna fight, They're gonna slap fight. Stephen A.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Was on the start of a Law and Order episode
a couple of weeks ago. So I mean, come on, like,
what are we talking about here? Their most popular bit
on inside the NBA is when a team gets eliminated
from the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
What's the graphic was that when they lose tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Oh stop spoiler, I didn't know that. Now I's gonna
go watch that episode.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Oh well, you spoiled the Dodger game for me.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
That's the one where where where TIBs is caught is
standing and he's got his arms fold he doesn't defend himself,
and it's a whole it's all is that a defenseless coach,
and they they have the whole uh uh computer reenactment
where it's a it's the AI TIBs.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
He's just standing there with his arms folded.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Here's the angle of the knife when it comes in,
or here's the ankle of the gun. Tim's had no
chance to protect himself. He just stood there with his
arms folded.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
It's the greatest superpower in the world. I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I'm telling you next year it's it'll be so if
you think now is great with with sports personalities at
odds with each other and always fighting over social media. Way,
do you see what happens when inside the NBA shows
up in ESPN Next year, it's gonna be it's gonna
be absolute mayhem. Great for us, but if you're an
ESPN executive, good luck, good luck keeping that going on.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Shows up at the desk and pulls out a microphone.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I'm the captain now, Dodgers Yankees now tied at five.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
We'll have more on this game and a big story
out of football coming up next.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
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