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Jason Smith: Why did the Ravens have to move on from John Harbaugh? Because right now, Lamar Jackson's NFL comp is Dan Marino - which you don't want.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:50):
you think. Comment away again, Mike and I love putting
this content out for you every single night. Now, I
do want to say this, since you played the Pluribus
drop from Kim Wexler, I love Pluribus, and then it
just got really long, like it's it's very interesting, and

(01:10):
it's I think now the general trend in television has
gotten to a point where it's no longer every week
about putting out a great episode to get you to
watch the next one, Like you know, that used to
be the way it was when you even with on
cable television obviously on broadcast TV. Hey, what's going to
get you to continue to watch the next week, the

(01:30):
next week, the next week. But now the shows get
entire seasons and they stream, especially when you get someone
who is so respected as Vince Gilligan. It's his first
thing after better call Saul. Hey, here's you know, eight
nine episodes, and I want you to experience this in
its totality, so when you go back and have repeated
viewings because now everything is available on every streaming service. Hey,

(01:53):
this is a story I wanted to tell. And there's
a reason why there was a little fat in this
episode and more fatness episode because I it's important to
the storyline that we put this out there. And I
think a lot of shows are doing that now, where
individual episodes are really bloated because they get caught up
at the creativity angle of it. Go, we can do
something really cool, like you know what, you still got
to entertain me. You still gotta make me want to

(02:15):
keep watching. You want to make sure I don't have
time to go down and play a game on my
iPad while I'm watching Don't Be a Don't Be an
iPad TV show where I can watch you and I
can play along with my iPad and not have to
worry about anything else, right like. And that's kind of
what Pluribus has become. It's a it's not a show
that I have to sit and make sure, Okay, shut
everything down, let's watch it, right, it was, It's it's

(02:36):
a great show. Look, it's got the same, the same
feels better call Saul, the same feel is breaking bad.
But it's just really it drags, and especially the last
two or three episodes to get to where we thought
we were gonna get to three episodes ago. Yeah, you
gotta move a little bit faster.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
So what you're saying is you have more rapt attention
towards Is it cake?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I love it because then I know
I know I'm gonna get the end. Sir, it's cake.
It's not cake. But here's the other r right, Sammit
I thought it was cake.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's like watching The Stranger Things Finale's cake cake.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, it's just a metal pipe, damn it. The Simpsons
when when when they said and coming up all we
have to postpone our guest Joan van Ark and Moreton
sense it never turns out to be Joan van arc
I thought it was cake. That's not cake. Oh, that's
definitely cake. That's not cake. That was that not cake?
That looks like cake. That's cake.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
But the being that you you've got to build all
this extra stuff in stranger things or whatever else, just
in case you decide to write something else. You know what,
we can go back to that random detail that you
didn't like, that you thought was fluff. It's episode two
that's actually really important, you know, like the floating bunny.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
All right, go back to breaking back.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Sure it's matter right, and but instead now it becomes
a big thing.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Hey, you know, or the ducks. But when you when
you get that cachet of everything you've done has been great,
we'll give you creative control. This is where I go. Yeah,
creative control is not always a great thing. Because now,
just a lunatic, I'm gonna give you here's a four
and a half minute scene of a guy making eggs. Okay,
can we make that thirty seconds set of four and
a half? But no, okay for the other part.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I mean It's all about process, especially a good egg
making trust, making the.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Cake, trust the process, trust the process. Just like baking
a cake. Trust there's a formula. Yeah, just like cooking
trust in a lab. If you're trust the process exactly,
is that trust the process? Is that meth cake? No,
it's not meth cake. That's a new show that's showing out.
Is that cake or is a cake or meth? Well,

(04:41):
let's watch how he reacts to this in five minutes.
Pretty sure that was meth. Oh boy, I thought it
was cake.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I don't feel so good because the other part is,
even if you're playing a game, pass so good. I
don't think you have had No, that would be one
hell of a drug. I mean Chabelle's show. I mean,
let's bring everything and turn over every rock. But the
idea of being I'm also if you're on your iPad phone,

(05:10):
second device baking a cage, you're still watching.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I And and if I'm Vince Gilligan, I already know
I can have someone walk out and just said wait
for season due, and you're gonna come back.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
It's just but I feel like that's that's kind of
a push now with with television shows is that, Hey,
we have this carte blanche, We're gonna tell you this long,
bloated story, right like for Stranger Things, I'll tell you
this much. Right, you've heard a lot about I'll tell
you this Stranger Things. As it became a bigger phenomenon
than just a regular TV show that was a hit.
It became its own thing, its own energy, the stars,

(05:44):
the careers it's launched or or brought back. It's incredible.
But five seasons it was pretty redundant. And if you
wanted to say, how do you make the best Stranger
Things experience, it's the entire first season, which was incredibly
well done, a little bit of the second season and
third season, then tiny bit of the fourth season and

(06:07):
the fifth season. Right like, you cut that to three seasons,
and season one is season one its entirety, Season two
is a little bit of season two, and most of
season three with them all and everything else, and the
last season is half of season four and half of
season five. Great, you would have an incredible three season
show that the life of this show people would talk

(06:28):
about is it's one of the best dramas, one of
the best shows that's ever come out. It would be
on that metal stand with Breaking Bad and Better Call Sauw,
the Sopranos, the Wire West Wing, whatever you want. It's
all out there. But the fact that the second season
was kind of derivative and the fourth and fifth seasons
were just kind of there, you know what I mean?
I feel like, boy, they really could have done something.
But I get there's a demand, there's money to be made.

(06:49):
I understand, but you're talking about, you know, the quality
of the show. That would have been a much better
Stranger Thing.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, you and I are going to reboot The Goat
Boy Saturday Night, Jim Brewers skin the Hey remember the
eighties based on the strength of Stranger Things, you know,
season five? I mean because I'm surprised we haven't started
hearing a certain artist from season.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yea oh oh, by the way, what do you mean?
I never needed the song. We didn't need that song.
I'm sorry, Sadie sick. Nobody needed that song. I didn't
need the song. I could have been okay, sorry spoiler,
I would have been ok. I didn't need the song.
So we didn't need that song. We didn't need running
up that Hill. We didn't need it at all. You
didn't need the song. We did. We did a song. No,
we didn't need Hey, no, that's her artistic interpretationous songs

(07:32):
no more valid than yours are mine. Just go I
could come back to my friends. We didn't need this song.
Nobody needed that the song.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
The song made millions, nobody need the song was burned, indelibly,
etched into our brain forever, made her a Hall of favor.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
So a little bit of TV there, but I'm glad
tyche I wanted to get on that pluribus there. But
look today, obviously the biggest story in the NFL has
been the firing of John Harbaugh, which which was initially
we're parting ways and then an hour later as no,
we're done in that guy. He lost the locker room
everybody all of a sudden. Harbaugh's awful, right now, another
reason why this needed to happen, right, We talked about

(08:09):
at the beginning of the show, the only two constants
this entire run has been John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson, right,
and you know, Lamar Jackson's not going anywhere. So that's
why we said in in September, hey, if they don't
win this year, Harball's out right. We were way ahead
of the curve on that right, What about that if
they'd gone the other way? Bold move cutting, Yeah, we're geting.

(08:31):
We're gonna trade off Lamar Jacksonamar Jackson stick out and
put in a Jets uniform. Oh emmaculates how the Jets
would ruin Lamar Jackson. We don't want you to run
at all. Just throw from the pocket. Wait what yeah,
just throw from the pocket. That's a no. You know what.
We don't want you to throw it all. Just run,
that's all it would, Just run.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
They put the forest gump braces on it, like we
know you can't run.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
We still got the Justin fields plays left over. We
think Tennor Rankstrom would have had good something. So we're
just gonna run. You're not gonna throw the ball. So
you know that it was gonna be Lamar over at harbaught. Now,
the thing about Lamar Jackson is this is why you
had to do it. He's more than midway through his
career as a running quarterback. Maybe you're hoping three four
years left of Lamar and again he's having trouble so far.

(09:13):
Wasn't the same guy this year injury started to mount.
You needed to do something new, because right now just
think about this. Every couple of generations you see things
repeat itself. And if you had to say, okay, who's
Lamar Jackson, if you're comparing him to a quarterback in
NFL history, and this tells you why a move had

(09:34):
to be made, Who's Lamar Jackson? Lamar Jackson is Dan Marino?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Whoa whoa?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Lamar Jackson is Dan Marino? Because you go back and
you look the eighties and the nineties Marino. Look Marino
top five quarterback of all time in the NFL up
until that point of his career, and every year he
fell short, got to the Super Bowl, second year, never
got back. And it was never because well, Dan Marino
was terrible. Playoff games he was bad. Some playoff games

(10:02):
he was great. Some playoff games the defense failed him.
Sometimes they turned the ball over, sometimes they couldn't score.
But the one constant was, hey, you know him and
Don Shula all the way through, they never got back.
That Dan Marino is the was always the posted boy
for Hey, best quarterbacks never win a Super Bowl. Guess
who's gonna take that mantle By the time it's all
said and done, right now, Lamar Jackson's gonna take that away. Now,

(10:25):
different quarterbacks, different skill sets, obviously, but this is Lamar Jackson.
The guy's been multiple MVP, still one of the top
five quarterbacks in the game, has been one of the
top five quarterbacks in the game. And right now, if
you said, what's your legacy, he's the new Dan Marino's.
He's going to best player to never win a Super
Bowl and none of that not even get there. Like, yeah,

(10:46):
I'm thinking if you put the over under for Lamar
Jackson at Super Bowls, just get into the Super Bowl
and you put it at half, a lot of people
are gonna say, I'm taking the under on nander. I
mean really, because if he hasn't gotten there, now what
do we have. But when you view him through that lens, yeah,
there had to be some kind of change because it

(11:06):
wasn't whatever was going on wasn't nearly enough. And so
when you think of Lamar Jackson in that in that way,
you know, Okay, something's got to happen for the next
three years ish to try to get him over the hump,
because you're wasting his talent over the course of the
past decade. So, yeah, Lamar Jackson being Dan Marino, that
had to change. Look at you.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
You went full on Dann Marino because I immediately start thinking
about Joe Burrow. Remember my interactions with Bengals fans after
his second year appearance in a Super Bowl. We're just
getting starting. You're in the AFCA. Lamar Jackson's over there.
Steelers are always good. Cleveland, Well they're Cleveland, but they

(11:47):
still made the playoffs a couple of times under Stefanski.
But yeah, for Lamar Jackson, this was supposed to be
the great roster. We talked with Jason Lockin for all
the time I do regular appearances in Baltimore, and coming
into the season, there was a lot of excitement about
what had been built. Well, we watched no pass rush
and as also, you know, we were talking with locking
Ford yesterday. Oh wait, Gumes he could never find the quarterback.

(12:10):
As a member of the Ravens, Jesse Minter somehow found
the key and unlocked that and all of a sudden
he's rushing a quarterback and putting up big stats for
the Chargers defense. So they had no pass rush. Offensive line.
They've been entirely dependent on how healthy is Ronnie Stanley.
If you looked at a power bar like he was

(12:31):
a video game character is the above seventy percent? All right,
we're gonna be okay, Derek Henry. They forget to run
the ball at times because this is where it's not
always in your control, and Lamar Jackson at this point
it starts to break down because you can also go
to the Cam Newton, who's been really chirpy here over
the last couple of weeks of getting a lot of run.
We utilize him as a guy who was super until

(12:52):
he wasn't. Right Bryce Young didn't dive on a fumble
on a failed flea flicker. Hey, where have we seen
that before? Yeah, Cam Newton. But once Cam Newton couldn't
scramble at the same level that he used to, guess
what happened? He became just a guy that cape went off.
And you're wondering, Josh Allen foot injury, how often is
he going to be able to do that? With Lamar
Jackson and the number of injuries that he's had, how

(13:14):
many times you're gonna be able to do that? And again,
that division's not going away Cincinnati if Joe Burrow is upright,
and that remains to be seen on a year to
year basis based on the roster construction there and now
his history, it's not going He's not going away. The
Cleveland Browns, they got to get it right at some point,
don't they question Mark and.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Pittsburgh getsh Not really now you don't have to do.
They just good enough in division. As a Jets fan,
I know you don't have to get it right at
some point. That's not something that automatically comes Sanchez's I watch,
I see all the chat GPT Hey chat GPT predicts
the next one hundred Super Bowls, and I look and
I go Jets. I don't even see the Jets next

(13:54):
one hundred years. I see Burger King winning a Super Bowl,
FedEx wins a Super Bowl, but the Jets don't win it.
No one picked. They can't even win a chat GPT
Super Bowl. Pop Tart guy smiling ten years ago. Look
there's a State Puff marshmallow Man that's back to back
in twenty ninety three and twenty ninety four. Jet still
don't have one. What all that to say?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Right, Pittsburgh as bad as it gets, you know, in
terms of noise year to year, what happens, they never
bought him out. So for Lamar Jackson, when we're talking
about year eight going into year nine, that window is
shrinking a right, like squishing your head like you're the
kids in the hall kind of thing, going on to
that old gag, And you've got to retold this entire

(14:35):
roster as quote good as it was. Isaiah likely made
a great catch. What was the last time you heard
Isaiah Likelely's name before he made that fourth down?

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Okay, when he had that great first game of the
year two years ago and everybody spent all kinds of
money in free agent bucks to get him in fantasy.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right, Yeah, it's the last time you heard Isaiah Andrew's
got a big contract. What's the two things you remember him?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
His big contract and dropping that pass? Dropping that pass
and then trying a live that cost him the game. Yeah,
but that's but the drop in the pass is really
no yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
No, obviously, I mean we're talking about degrees. But those
are two times that you remember him in recent memory.
Derrick Henry again holding up your the thing like your
John Cusick and the boombox saying, hey, twelve fifty three
and twelve seconds. Plenty of times, it's not always going
to be about Lamar Jackson and his highs and lows,

(15:26):
but there are things you're not going to be able
to control, and eventually his powers will dissipate, Kryptonite will
show up, and we're hitting that point. So yeah, it
could be very much Marina last, but I had to ask,
this is Finkel Einhorn?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Einhorn is Finkel? Finkel's a man? Just so you know,
isotonas exit about a Fresco exit? Swollen down the Jason
Spid Show. My best friend Mike Carr, I did do
jazz hands there. I did a jazz ands Lamar Jackson,
Dan Marino. Yeah, that tells you what change had to
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Speaker 1 (16:59):
When I was young, the Jets would least make the
playoffs every other year, every three or four years. Now
it's fifteen years no playoffs, and we're stuck with Aaron
Glenn unless we fire him and hire Harbaugh, Arsta Fanski
or Raheem Morris or someone else, anyone else Fox Sports Radio.

(17:26):
Everybody's ever really freestyle to the logical song before No,
It's pretty good. I kind of dig that, TJ clearly,
everybody ready to eat breakfast in America tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Great album covers of all time.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So you want a great Big Bowl prediction for the
off season in the NFL game, now, Jets will suck? Yeah?
Is that bold? Or is that in Frostbrook?

Speaker 3 (17:50):
That's just you know what the greatest move would be
though for Aaron Boldly, but for Aaron Glenn to decide
that one of the defensive coordinator jobs is better than
being the coach of the Jets.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, well, there's lots of things that we're here in
the last few days. This is better than being a jet.
This is better than being a jet. Yeah. I can't
argue with it. But when you're a jet, yeah, the
jet all the way from your first cigarette till you're left.
So on Sunday, Joe Burrow didn't wait very long until
he put the Bengals front office on notice to talk

(18:21):
about what should happen in the offseason. Quote, you have
to attack the period of free agency with the intent
to get better. Oh, I thought he was going for
harmon attack it like nobody else. It's of paramount importance.
He is challenging. Like we talked about Dak Prescott last hour.
The best thing for the Cowboys is if he challenges

(18:42):
Jerry Jones publicly on the ridiculously stupid decisions he makes
because nobody else is doing it. And maybe that'll change. Now,
maybe it won't, but at least you're trying, you know,
And Dack's the only guy with the voice he's the quarterback.
He's got the money. Nobody else is. Brian Schottenheimer's not
doing it right, Steven's not doing it. Nobody else is
doing it. But Joe Burrow has no problem challenging the

(19:03):
Bengals and the Bengals front office at some point in
the off season, at some point, maybe it's after the
Super Bowl, maybe it's after the first wave of free agency.
You know, the Bengals aren't gonna go crazy because they're
the Bengals. They gave out money they needed to. They
brought back Jamar Chase, brought back to Higgins. He did
what they had there. They're not gonna go crazy because

(19:25):
they're the Bengals. And Joe Burrow, who has been laying
the the the the seeds of this for a while,
will demand a trade and say I no longer will
play for the Bengals. He went through this this whole season,
another season full of injuries. His offensive line was bad.
He came back, try to fight his way through. You
saw how desponding he was at the end of the season.

(19:47):
I'm trying to fight my way back. I gotta find
enjoyment and happiness in the game. Guess what, man You've
seen all the good times Cincinnati. You got to the
super Bowl, and what happened that you kind of everybody's
been sitting on their laurels. It's not been a great
it's not been a great last couple of year. You
are seeing the fact that you're gonna be thirty years old,
you got half your career left. You've given the first
half to the Bengals. You have seen that guys who

(20:07):
have gotten signed a big quarterback deals, ken get traded
can move on right the Miami Dolphins, they're gonna move
on from Tua. The Falcons Redid kirk Cousins contract, Maybe
they're moving on from him, be able to trade him.
He has seen all of this in the last couple
of years, and he knows that I don't want to
waste any more time with a team that I have

(20:28):
to worry about them trying to do things that are
gonna make us better. At some point in the offseason,
he will demand a trade and he will say I
am not gonna play for the Bengals again. And he's
the kind of guy that when Mike Brown says, well,
you're gonna sit and touch it as long as Okay,
great I'm not getting I'll wait, I'll wait. I'm good,
I'm good. Right, he did it with Carson Palmer, you know,

(20:48):
about fifteen years ago, and let Carson Palmer sit for
a long time before they trade him to the Raiders.
But it's a different time in the NFL now, and
if Joe Burrow's not gonna play, there's gonna be a
lot of teams that are gonna say, will give you
so much for him, and you'll have to make the
move because it will give you a lot of assets.
It will give you, it will get you out of
Joe Burrow's contract. You can spend money someplace else. But

(21:10):
the guy's gonna say I don't want to be there.
It already seems like he's laying the groundwork for it.
He will demand a trade, and suddenly this is where
every NFL teams, I'll kick my quarterback to the curve
for Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's it man, dude is batman.
Let's go get Joe Burrow and that will be a
big feeding frenzy. Now, I say anytime this offseason because
basically it all it needs to happen up until a

(21:32):
couple of weeks before the draft, where teams with draft
picks can say, hey, we'll give you this, We'll give
you this, we'll give you this. It's not gonna go
past that. So maybe with Burrow throwing the salvo out there,
I want us to be aggressive and free agency. Could
this be the last time I'm I'm telling you, this
is the last time I'm gonna I'm gonna warn you
you better go get some guys in free agency or else.

(21:54):
And the only trump card you have as a star
player is to say I want out or I won't play.
And Burrow's been hurt night behind a bad offensive line,
whatever it is to see his football mortality. I'm not
gonna waste my time if the team I'm playing for
is not gonna get better. And still you see the
reports of the Cincinnati Bengals franchise. It does awful every
year in the report cards, and say, you know what

(22:15):
I did the first half of my career here, I
want to go someplace else now. Be I like the
guys on the team, we've been to the super Bowl before.
I want to give them one more chance. And this
feels like it's the one more chance. Hey, you be
aggressive in free Agenci megas better. Okay, we'll do another year.
But if you're not watched, because if after that first
wave of free agency middle of March, Joe Burrow says

(22:36):
I want out. You got six weeks to make a
trade for Joe Burrow, and those trades will come across
and happen pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Let me read from a quick article from Jeremy Fowler
about something going on in Bengals Land.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Quote.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
This relationship has run its course. Bengals had the option
to franchise Tag Hendrickson, but after a year of contentious
on track negotiations, Ed Rusher appears poised to land elsewhere
and capitalize on a booming positional market end quote. Uh yeah,
remember when they gave him an extra fourteen million dollars
and then he got hurt and that was the end

(23:13):
of it, right, A lot of speculation.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Could he have come back? Was he available? No, he
was done.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
And so that's one of the big parts because what
they've got an eleven man unit. You had one guy
and then he was hurt and unavailable to you, and
now you're he got his wide receivers paid, right, Joe
Burrow got that. So they took care of Higgins and
they took care of Chase. You still got to go
take care of Chase Brown here in short order. You
still need to reconstitute an entire offensive line. And again

(23:42):
you need now eleven defenders because they're not going to
franchise tagg him, right, I gotta bring Hendrickson down.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Remember, you gotta stop the run. I learned that right
before the season started. We got to stop this st memory.
Got to stop the run. That's the whole thing. It's
good advice. I mean, there's teams past the football. I
just found out they can run it too. They don't
have to have the football. Quarterbacks stand back and throw
like it's in the street and you got to say
we're not running because it's two hand touch. I found
out you could just give the ball to another guy
without throwing it to him and he can actually run.

(24:09):
So we got to stop that too. Now.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, like John Cena in his last match, I always say,
there's the tap system, right, I need a thrower, I
need an attacker, and I need a protector. All I
got is the thrower. Right now, the attacker's going out
that door. He ain't coming back because again, the Bengals
front office and ownership aren't going to say, you know what,
we really fought with that guy for a really long time.
You know what, Let's give him forty million dollars and

(24:34):
have to listen to him grouse about it for another year.
You're not gonna do it right, You're just not. So
that's gone. So now you got to go find that guy.
In theory, you drafted the successor. He had an uneven seasons, right,
Stuart came in. He didn't do a whole lot for
you in that regard, was injured, held out over some
contract language. So that's not going down a really positive

(24:56):
path for you either. No matter how much you try
to sue and force the end of year assessments to stop,
players are.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Gonna keep doing them. Yes, they're a good fit and fodder.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
They're a good theater as to how you run an organization,
and as warning signs for people entering free agents, don't
go there.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah, you don't want to go there. Man, you got
some extra dollars. You can always call guys on teams
say hey, what's it like there? But what if you
don't know anybody? May maybe you know somebody who knows somebody.
But if you don't know anyone. Well, okay, this is
a really helpful thing to know that, Oh they don't
provide childcare. Wait wait, wait what they don't provide childcare?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Public pressure always helps, right, your fan base, whatever the size, is,
getting incensed about how you treat or mistreat your players.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
They don't serve macaroni and cheese at all in the
cafetain and there's no macaroni chick What about pizza? None
of that at all. I'm not going there. That's the
cheapest stuff you can make if you can make it that.
They make me pay for my lunch, Bengals, because they
do make me. I'm not going I'm not paying for
my lunch. Hey, he's staying lative to watch some film
a bill. Wait, what's where is that?

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Arizona did that too. Where on the field is the
dollar that I'm paying for some It's kind of where
we're at. It's kind of hard to see. I'm done.
I'm done with this.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
For Joe Burrow, you've got six years already, right, you're
six years into your career again, A couple of big
injuries and those moments at those press conferences that say, hey,
I recognize that the sand in the hour glass is
running pretty high to the other side of it that
something needs to change.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
So good for him if if the Bengals do well
in free agency, and I think for Burrow with the
Bengals it's more of a year to year thing at
this point. Well, because look, he's learned. Look he's a
smart dude. He's learned seeing how quarterbacks have attack situations
the last few years of Hey, if I want out,
how do I do it? You watch Aaron Rodgers lay

(26:49):
the groundwork for two years, win a couple of MVPs.
It's not tenable. I'm out, Russell Wilson the same way.
How do I do this? How do I go? And
and so to understand that, Okay, I'm a year to
year guy here at this point, I can always get out.
I'm still I'm getting close to thirty. But Burrow's a
guy that should age pretty well. I don't think you're
gonna see a lot of downtick in his production because

(27:11):
he's not the kind of quarterback that physically he's going
to a deteriorate as much. Now his health is a thing,
but physically he should still be the same guy for
the next five or six seven years, but like, okay,
could I do one more year if they're aggressive? Yeah,
because this division is wide open. It's absolutely terrible. The
Steelers are awful. It was hard to watch Mike Tom
and go, yeah, look at me, dude, the guy missed

(27:32):
a fieldgal or you were getting fired. Yeah, but look
it's great. So yeah, okay, I could stay here another
year as long as we're going in a positive direction.
But I'm not gonna give away any other years of
my career. If we're not going that way, we're not
trying to win the AFC North. I mean, come on, dude,
you can't tank in the NAFC North. The Anti North
is terrible. Then I got to get someplace else, and
there will be no shortage of teams to say, what

(27:54):
do you want? We got draft picks, we got we
go give you our quarterback? What do you want for
Joe Burrow? And if you're the Bengals, you know he's
not coming. You have to make that move if he
if they if they're not, if they don't attack free
agency enough, you're very shortly they as gonna be Burrow.
Burrow wants a trade, and that's gonna send the entire offseason.
Set it on it's ear. Oh we can get Joe Burrow. Oh,

(28:15):
we get Joe Burrow. Hey, all of a sudden, the
Raiders making a phone call. Number one pick, give us
Joe Burrow, give the number one pick. I do that
if I was. If I was, the Raiders, take the
number one pick in the draft. I love fanad. We
don't need Mendoza. Oh, I want to have Joe Burrow
number one pick in the draft. Jets would call it, say,
number two pick. We got the number two and the
number fifteen pick for Joe Burrow. Right, it would be
a feeding front. They would get a lot for him,

(28:36):
and they would have no choice but to do it.
As Joe Burrow texts everybody, So your plans for the
offensive line before.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
In Nevada and with the Jets.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
By the way, when you did your little thing, I
want to make a meme of that little gift because
you did this giant gesturing thing. For those not watching video, uh,
please clean gestures.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Clean.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
You look like you were freaking out, Like I said
this secret word for Leeuez play clean.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
These were clean gestures. This is not something you know
you were swepting. That happens other times. But not here. No,
you're right usually behind your back when you're walking away. Yeah, yeah, uh.
Time go to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports from special delivery Steve de Seger, who
is watching Nevada and San Diego State with an intensity
unknown de mankind right now, but he also has what's

(29:24):
trending Steve.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
Though I don't think the ADS techs are watching this
with much intensity. They're down nine already min first half
on FS one. The game that just ended on FS
one number seven, Houston won at home sixty nine sixty
five against fourteenth rank Texas Tech. Earlier on FS one
number two, Michigan was the seventy four to seventy two
winner at Penn State number six. Duke was down twelve
late first half, but still came back to win at

(29:47):
number twenty Louisville eighty four to seventy three. Louisville guard
mckel brown still out with a bad back. Florida defeated
eighteenth rank Georgia ninety two to seventy seven. Minnesota down
nineteenth ranked Iowa Oklahoma State over number twenty five UCF
and they're in overtime three minutes left in the OT
at number twenty two. Kansas Jayhawks leading TCU ninety two

(30:09):
eighty nine. The late game in the NBA is late
first quarter Sacramento up twenty seven to twenty on Dallas.
Kings have lost five straight and Kings forward Keegan Murray
will miss at least three to four weeks with the
sprained ankle. Victories for Washington and Miami Cleveland sent Indiana
to a thirteenth stray loss, one twenty to one sixteen.
Darius Garland twenty nine points in the fourth quarter. He

(30:30):
was seven of seven from the floor. The Lakers got
thirty points each from Luka, Doncic and Lebron James and
one at New Orleans won eleven one oh three. Pelicans
have lost eight in a row. Memphis ended a four
game losing streak, edging San Antonio one oh six to
one oh five, and Grizzli's guard Jah Moran was out
with a calf injury. Victor wib and Yama of the
Spurs thirty points in twenty one minutes off the bench.

(30:52):
He was back on the quarter after a hyper extended knee.
Lukadancich leads the fan voting for next month's All Star Game.
Nikola Jokich is number two in the West. Jannis Antennacumpo
still has the most votes in the East.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm sorry you you you meant to say Jalen Brunson
for one of those names. He is number two in
the East, Okay, behind Giannis. That's fixed. All you need
to vote more clearly.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
He also had a full half that he just sat
pouting yesterday.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Canda voted from him. Sometimes I sit there and just
hit refresh on my computer to vote for Jalen Brunson. Refresh, refreshed.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
All Star voting does continue through Wednesday the fourteenth, and
then the starters will be announced on the nineteenth. And
the NHL Islanders nine nothing over New Jersey. Carolina won
at home sixty three against Dallas. Tampa Bay won its
eighth straight game four to two against Colorado, and among
the late games, Oilers have just beaten Nashville six to two.
Ohio state wide receiver Carnel Tad declared for the NFL Draft.

(31:46):
The Baltimore Ravens fired coach John Harball the team just
missed the playoffs. He was under contract through twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve, though Jason Smith Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next,
What is fast because I'm my favorite story of the night.
What NFL quarterback getting ready for his playoff debut this
weekend says, I am built for this. That's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
What is He? What does he say? In?

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Austin Fowers, Dog, Doctor Gregory Allen, and doctor John Parsons.
I'm gonna call it the Alan Parsons Project. I'm a
shaggy rotten baby. Yeah. Alan Parson's Project is a progressive
rock band in the eighties. Man, just give me a gun.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'll do it right here.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Just give me a gun. No, Scott, No, we can't
do it that way. You fight like a woman. No, no, Scott.
We have to set some kind of evil trap for him. Scott, No, Now,
we don't cut it off to mcwacom Moley, I get it.
I'm a mole and I'm am all on my fat
I get it. I get it. I'm am all with
them all. Yes, Well, listen. You should we shag now
or should we shag leight, shag well by day? Shag

(33:00):
very well by night. That's not mine, baby says right here,
that is my bag, Baby, Jason Smith fight harmon live
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. We could really just
spend the next eight minutes running off I think we
should all the way. I don't bite god. Okay, just
because you just saw it for the first time a

(33:20):
month ago, Okay, these movies have been classics for like
fifteen years now, ty Shirt, Who's what what are you now?
Twenty four twenty two? Baby, Yeah, you're in your mid
thirties now, and you just watched watched it for the
first time. But that's the thing that he's memorized at all.
Either it was such a moving experience for him or

(33:42):
he's done nothing but watch them on repeat since the
first one started. Ty Shirt's kind of like when my
dad discovers a new piece of technology. You know, we
could do You know what I could do? I could
actually order food on an app? Yeah, dad, Yeah, yeah,
you can. That's tight Shirt. With like television and music
and sports and stuff. Hey, Aaron Rodgers is on the
Steelers now. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's a.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Pretty good story. Oh, other important news, has he changed
his pants yet?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Your dad? I think my dad is still wearing the
Justin lambson pants. That's national champion Justin lambs That's right. Yeah, Dangers,
My name power is danger now. But so guess what
quarterback has said on the eve of his NFL I say, Eve,
you know, coming up this week of his playoff debut,

(34:32):
that he has built for these moments quote mentality wise,
how I've worked. I've been in a bunch of big
games before, in a bunch of big rivals. In these moments,
I can do whatever my team needs me to do.
I am built for these moments mentality wise. Mystery guests
sign in. That is your quarterback, Mike Harmon. That is

(34:54):
Caleb Williams getting set for playoff game number one, my quarterback. Yea,
I well listen to the greatest comedy show ever was
the post Jets season?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Well, that's that's just sad. That's like saying, hey, let's
watch a war documentary. Nothing goods coming out of that. Wow,
that's what end I'm doing watching watching Jets highlights, so
Bears post game after the Lions all they did.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Is like you're the number two seed. Number it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Like we talk about Drake May and his MVP candidacy
Caleb Williams, same thing. Big throws, big opportunities against this
Packers squad, an improbable win on a Saturday night and
a game earlier this year that if he puts a
little more on the ball, he's got an open receiver.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a little bit short. He's
got another receiver. Yeah, so waits another half a second,
he's got another receiver. Game defeated. Well, but you just
have that opportunity to Lincoln Riley. Hey, you know, seven
or eight plays go the other way. We're undefeated. Oh okay, No,
this is more just.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Talking about the Bears, right going you split with the
Green Bay Packers and you're feeling really confident that the
matchup is to your liking. They're a very beat up
squad right now, and clearly defensively much different with no
Mikeen Marson's roaming around.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Now, let me tell you my only fear, because I've
told you you're in the era of good feeling now right.
I've loved the Bears from the beginning. I've I've got
them to this point, to the number two seed. I'd
love them from the beginning all the way through. I
told you Caleb Williams is going to be a star.
He's a star. Ben Jonson's the right guy. All of this.
Everybody else wants, Oh, no, I love Caleb Williams. No,
you all hated him before the season. Fair. This is
my only fear. And I'm gonna say this, and you're

(36:35):
gonna say, uh, you hit the nail right on the head.
My only fear is that the Bears. Look, it's the playoffs,
so you never know how teams are gonna respond. Right,
you've seen these Packers, teams have been used to the
playoffs before. Yes, the fact that they're missing some players,
this should be a big Bears win. My only fear
is that, Okay, this game is a little bit closer

(36:55):
than we think, and the Bears are gonna make an
un believably critical mistake that's gonna cost them the game.
In other words, they're gonna bear whether it's a double doink,
it's a bad interception, it's a fumble, it's a turnover,
it's a guy falling down trying to cover a wide receiver.
That's my only fear for the Bears. It's gonna be

(37:16):
a close game, and one play that's gonna become a
famous play in Bears and NFL history is going to happen,
and it's gonna be a really bad, embarrassing mistake that
we're going to talk about for hours next week. Hey,
look at what happened on this play. I can't believe
Caleb Williams threw the ball off his offensive lineman's helmet
and it bounced all the way back off the officials

(37:37):
helmet and the defensive tackle intercepted it like something weird
and something embarrassing. Is because this is how the Bears
operate sometimes. Unfortunately, that's my only fear. There's gonna be
an incredibly embarrassing play. God sends the Bears home now here.
I'm gonna one up you Lafloor. Okay, remember when he

(37:58):
said a field goal kicker against the Buccaneers all those
years ago, Yeah, Lafloor and Rogers looked at him, wanted
to curse at him, but left the field and then
they lost to Tom Brady. It ain't been right since man,
and they're a banged up squad right now.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I agree with you all of these things. I agree
Williams doesn't turn the ball over. I agree on the football,
I agree, they'll give up their yardage. I agree, and
they'll be they'll get turnovers. I agree with the turnovers. Agree,
Cairo Santos. You watch a guy who expertly navigated the
winds saying, all right, if I hit it fifteen yards

(38:35):
to the right of the upright, it's gonna curve right
in like I'm on the putting greens.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Jordan Love's gonna throw a pass that hits off the
camera that's over the middle of the field, but they're
not gonna be able to see it on replay. It's
gonna deflect its way down to Romeo Dubbs who runs
it in for a touchdown and we get the new Amacium.
Something that's my only fear is something like that is
gonna happen to you.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Even in this moment you were thinking about McDonald's McDonald,
you were thinking about the old horse game between Jordan
and Larry Bird off the beam.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Across the skylight. Well, that's exactly what you were saying.
What could actually happen that replay might not be able
to see and overturn we didn't see that the ball
hit the camera and it just deflected a little bit
to the side. In this day and age.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
When all the technology, the officiating we know time and
again has just been horrific. Go back to what happened
to Carolina this weekend. Oh yeah on multiple egage. Sure
we play.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Can't help with that. We don't have that. No. No,
it's like when they in the in the cop shows
when they go in or in a movie when they go, oh,
well you have you have video camera up right? Yeah,
we didn't have the camera on. Oh we didn't have
it on. No we haven't turned it on. Yeah we haven't.
It was too much money, so we don't really have it.
Like that's how all the shows get around. Well, all
the all these business cameras everywhere. What do we do. Well,

(39:55):
we gotta say the cameras aren't working. Oh okay, great.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
In the cameras across Los Angeles have been shut off
because they realized.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
How much it cost. Actually, man lookin roofman when the
when the police officer tells Peter dinklic sir, you have
to turn those cameras on. You have to get them on.
I understand it's important that you have them on. So yes, no,
I understand, I understand. What are the fun watches of
the holiday holidays? Yeah, I love roof Man. Roofman was fine,
a little slow, got a little slow in the middle,
but it was pretty good. But I mean, that's my

(40:23):
old that's my biggest something a double doink type experience
happens for you.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Firs plus one and a half at home, my friend
five hundred dollars as you're getting.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
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