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November 26, 2025 40 mins

Jason and Mike explain that the NBA on NBC is a bad business model. If you get out to an early lead as the MVP favorite in the NBA, you usually win it. Luka Doncic is going to have the MVP clinched by January. And find out if Chiefs-Cowboys will be the highest-rated NFL game this season?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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buying should be. Well, here we are eight o'clock. We
made it eleven o'clock on the East coast, and we're
getting Lakers clippers. It's byoh going to start. We have
waited long enough. We're getting Lakers clippers.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
The funny thing is is that just say look, this
is just a disaster, the way NBC and Peacock decided
to say Hey, we have the Coast to Coast and
the second game is starting at eleven o'clock. You want
people to watch Luca and Lebron at ten o'clock at night. Right,
I'm sorry, but you do. Yeah, but you got a
Black Friday deal.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You can get a month a peak Guy for like
two dollars for less than a cup of coffee.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Watch this game.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Prove to me you watch this game at eleven o'clock
at night, and I'll give you a month of Peacock
for two dollars, right.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Like, that's what I yet? Like, why am I subscribed?
Am I always an early adopter? I get screwed left
and right? But I mean that's the thing. It's like, hey,
you want to watch this game that ad was rolling
up in my timeline all day ago?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
You can get it now. There's certain things. There's certain
things and in moneymaking in sports that I get are
above the rim decisions that are certain things that maybe
the average radio host you know, doesn't get well with
the re and why we do this. There's the metrics.
It's you know, it's like watching moneyball. Well it's hard
to see them. Where's the dollar that I'm paying for soda?

(02:06):
But I find it hard to believe that starting a
game at eleven o'clock at night is a good idea
when really, because people are gonna go to bed when
they want. Don't you want people to at leacht at
least watch the first half of Luca and Lebron, Like,
look at Lebron are a pretty big draw man, Like,
especially for the youth. There's not many other players you
want to see doing this game, you know you want

(02:28):
to see on TV. I want to see Luca and Lebron.
The children, I mean, really, what about the children? Think
about the child? Why was doing a big thing with
with the kids.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
The other day we were talking about lost leaders and
they're looking at me like I have three heads, Like no,
let me talk about it. You know, it's the the
costco rotisserie chicken.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Okay, you're not just.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Going in there and buying at fort ninety nine chicken.
But you might say that's a base to other things
you're gonna eat. That's all right, yeah, right, same thing
like we always had the steal of base taco bell
during the World Series. People like I get a free taco.
You're not going there for a taco? What else would
you like?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Just the free taco and anything to drink, No napkins
and a straw. Uh I brought my own drink, I did.
I just want the free taco, all right?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Coming right up? That is uh free pull around?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah see that.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
That's that's guy's rarity because it costs him more in
gas because he's if he's gonna take the time and
you after to go to that taco belts like you
sure you don't want anything else?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Fine, back, just just gonna have the just gonna have
the free stuff.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
You any any other free stuff for today? How about
some sauces?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Right?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
You don't charge you for the packets? Do You're like?
I want the I want the packets. Give me like
a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Garto based products.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
An hands to you and you just rip it open
and just put it put squeeze it into your mouth.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Oh I like that. That's good.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I need a.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Couple of It's like people going for the dollar hot
dog at Costco and bringing a gallon jug and taking
all the soda they want.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
But you know, waiting waiting for this game, right, I
just think back to this, this philosophy of waiting to
watch this game, and how interminable, it seems. I remember
going back to visit the East Coast after Pam and
I moved to Los Angeles, right cause we lived in
Connecticut East Coast time. Obviously we moved to Los Angeles west.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
But you can't go back, No, you can't know. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
I know so many people that have left the East
Coast for the West Coast. I don't know many people
that went West coast to East Coast and had not
come back. I mean, unless you had some incredible job.
Everybody that I know that left came back. Yeah, I'm
sorry coming back coming back. But I remember going back
for the first time to the East Coast after we

(04:40):
were in LA and this was we moved out here
in the fall, and we you know, we we stayed
off and then we went back to visit around Christmas,
and I remember going back. And now, all of a sudden,
it was a new thing to wake up at ten
am to watch football on Sundays, right, weird thing to
get up at nine for college football on Saturday. But okay,
you know, fine, you didn't really need if there wasn't

(05:00):
a game you wanted to watch it that was at
noon Eastern time. Okay, you were okay, sleeping a little
bit later, but waking up at nine o'clock. But football
on Sundays is a big deal. And then very quickly
I used to it. I'm going, wow, this is amazing.
Just roll right out of bed and football is on
all day. I get my and then by the time
I'm done with football, Like you know, this is before
the Sunday night game started to become a big thing.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
This was, Oh, this is great. Now we go to
the movies. What do you want to do when football
is over? I'm done, I'm to the park.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, it's four thirty in the afternoon. We can go
to the beach if you want to. But I remember
going back and it was one of those times, back
when the Jets were good.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
It was Jets Page. You never went back.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
This is a completely so it's a completely fabricated It
was a big.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Jets Patriots game and first place on the AFC East
was on the line, and it was a four o'clock game.
And so we fly back to the East Coast. We
go to Pamzan and uncles who were staying with and
we you know, we we get there Friday, you know,
Saturday or whatever. And then Sunday we get up and
it's like nine o'clock and and we're like, okay, what
are we gonna do it. I'm like, we're gonna wait

(06:03):
a minute. The game's not till four o'clock. The hell
are we gonna do for the next seven hours? We're
gonna go look at Foliage. I'm like, what are we
gonna do? I'm like, okay, but at least you got
to early. No, I'm four hours away from the early game.
You went straight to White Gusts. How did I ever
that could have been? How did I ever do this?
How do you ever wait until one o'clock for football?

(06:23):
And it's not But it was like anything if you
don't know any better, all I do was sat on
the couch, going what.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Are you doing? I'm just waiting for the game.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
It's like I feel in the baseball playoffs, like when
the Mets are in, I'm like, I can't I'm useless
till four o'clock. I'm locked in on the Mets. I
can't do anything. I'm waiting for the playoff.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
But it's also a reminder of as we sit here
on the West Coast and then they do those shots,
how are those people just that far gone and it's
so early. It's like no, no, no, they've had an
extra three hours because if they got up like you,
that means they had four hours to get lubricated before
the early game.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah alone if that was the late game, yeah,
oh noor Sunday night football, it was it.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Oh boy, that's why you're jumping through tables and setting
I'm on fire.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I still remember that day.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Though I can't play well, I'm just sitting at the clock, going,
this is interminable.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
I gotta wait till four o'clock for this bleeping game. Man.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I wasn't even happy when the games at one o'clock started.
There was gonna at least take.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Up some time. I'm just sitting on the couch.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
Mad try living there for a couple of years and
watching Dodger West Coast games and Laker West Coast games.
Oh I think I got three three weeks and never
did it again. Oh wow, it's two in the morning.
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, all the the late When
why worked at ESPN, the biggest thing when I was
in production was the two thirty Sports Center. When you

(07:38):
worked on the late one, it was the eleven thirty
Sports center for the West coast, two to thirty on
the East coast, right the late sports center, and they
wanted everything you're hoping everything is done, wrapped up, everything
is wrapped up and done, because if not, you had
to stay. You had to stay until the end, until
the lays, the last games were over. And anybody that
worked until three o'clock in the morning, you know, you

(07:59):
want to go home at in the morning, right, you
come in at six o'clock at night. You want to
go home at three o'clock in the morning. Get to sleep.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
You didn't worry about basketball so much because even if
if NBA games went to overtime, you could still push
it and and and and and get the highlight later
on in the show. That wasn't a big deal. But
the baseball games were the worst, and the Dodgers and
the A's were the two teams at any time there
were late games you were working on the two thirty,
you were like, Okay, what do we got? How's this

(08:24):
game going? Is it going fast? Is it not?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Because Tony LaRussa, you know how many how we'd like to.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Go to the bullpen. It was like, well, and back
then all these changes.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
But then with those changes, there was no no clock,
which meant multiple trips to the mound, multiple trip like
all of that to space that out.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, Dodger games were seven forty. Like now they start
at seven, right, they realized, okay, we are But that's
when that was when games started at seven forty. So
all the late baseball games started at seven forty ten
forty East Coast. I was like, man, a three hour
game and and we're gonna we're gonna barely make it
on the show.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
But you go into extra innings, you're like, no, you don't.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
You don't know the blankety blank that was hurled at
at players and managers. Games would go late because we
knew we had to stay late because if we want to.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Leave up a home run in the ninth yeah, because
it's public enemy number one. If we did the show
and we got done and the game was still going,
we had to redo like a whole segment once that
other game was over. There's stuff we're just sitting around
waiting for this to end going, and it's a it
could be a big game that you need the result thing.
You can't just say, well, we don't have it for you.
Like okay, Dodgers and the Phillies and you know, the

(09:33):
two first place teams in the in the National League
at this time, you know, it's only had two divisions,
uh you know, or you know, I think we had
we had the Central by then.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yeah, so it was like okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
But when if it was a game that no one
really cared about, you could say, yeah, we could wait.
Like honestly, if it was an NHL game and it
was say Quebec and Vancouver, yeah we didn't really need
to have the final leg, like you just you could
just put the score final scoring when it's over. But
a game like that, what we got to have the
highlight you got people have to see it because the

(10:04):
morning Sports Center ran all morning walk. It ran all
the way until three o'clock in the afternoon, so it
was you there were times when you're just sitting around
and doing nothing.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
We're done.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
We're like the old like when you see in the
movies when when people are bored, they're just like pitching
cards into a hat. Like that's basically what we did,
just waiting for the game to end, waiting for the
did you go watch F one again? Interminable?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Man, it was the worst. And again the Dodgers were okay,
but the A's this was Larusa and he would change
pictures times in every game.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Well, the A's were good, would.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, it was the end of the big run for
the A's wave dunking and uh LaRussa agetting after. This
wasn't the after Moneyball A's where it's like, yeah, we
don't even to put you on, don't even don't even
worry about it.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
We're fine.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
This is this was back when you think it comes
back up of hey, should we go back to that
old sports.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
Center thing where we just play that all day? Who
wants to vote for that?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I mean, so it is really and you think about
that on a Sunday, and I think about that for
the game tonight, Like, I mean, all you're doing is
is having less people watch. Well, they're just going through
the introduction. Yeah, they still haven't tipped off yet. They're
going through. They're actually recapping the Luca Dantics trade via
video on the on the message board at Crypto going

(11:21):
and they're they're up to the trade right now. They're
just gonna there's another eight minutes in the presentation before
we start.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
I just want to say this though.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
The one thing I will will appreciate is the way
Peacock does present these games at the outset because you
get a little bit of that montage.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
We got our guy VTV and Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, oh no, no, so look so we got we
got Like the production is fantastic.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Yes, you wanted a little earlier. Yeah, but made it.
Maybe they didn't have it done. They're trying. They're trying
way too hard though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Look they're they're trying to and I like that they're
trying hard.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
It's good there.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, it's they're trying to give you a product at
the average NBA fan who sees a great product with
inside the NBA that season and that sees an okay
product with what ESPN used to do with it. But
now the inside the NBA is there. What TNT has
been for years, there's been a pretty good level of

(12:16):
threshold that you want to get to, and I feel
like Peacock they want to get there right away. We
want to show you we're here right away. And you
know what, the pre show is okay with Tracy McGrady
and Brian Scotlabride.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
I mean it's okay.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
But you could tell they're really pushing and the production
but the production value is good.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
But I'm trying to go back to the old days
when NBC ruled the Earth and we're talking about the
Jordan intros and all of those kind of things. So
certainly the pregame build is certainly more than you get
for most games, like all right, and you usually get
about five minute. All right, here we go, let's go.
I mean, really, I mean, all you're doing is stopping

(12:52):
people from watching the game. What do you want to
have your the NBA eyeballs? What do you want to
do make it as difficult as possible to have this happen?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I mean, come on, really, exit? Ou about a Fresca
exit Swallen?

Speaker 5 (13:03):
What do I know? What do I know? This is
a league game, by the way, League.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Game, Smoky, This is a league better though, if they
really had one of those mutant courts.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
This isn't night Market zero exit?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
On about a Frescott said market zero exit swollen dome.
Coming up next, we take a look at the big
slate of Thanksgiving Day games with a guy that's perfect
to break that down with us. That's next right here.
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(13:38):
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Speaker 1 (14:16):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon. Okay, Ricky Lakers Clippers is finally tipped off.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Hooray basketball late night on two. I mean it's a holiday, holiday,
holiday week holiday. There are no bedtimes, there are no curfews.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
West, Okay, that's true. You're right, You're right about that.
I'm I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's okay, we got more NBA on the way, but
time to break down all the big news in the
NFL ahead of a huge Thanksgiving Day slate of games
and Black Friday. He is longtime NFL insider. He is
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(14:59):
Jason Coles sixty two. It is Jason Cole who I
welcome you, Jason Cole with a warning. If you don't
vote for Philip Rivers for the Hall of Fame, Justin
Frossberg will strangle you with a bolo tie just so
you know. These are the stakes for Philip Rivers steaks.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I'm d.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I mean, you don't want to get strangled with a
bolo tie?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Do you think Philip Rivers is listening to this song
right now?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Could be all right now?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You got me thinking like the end of Silence of
the Lambs, right the guys doing the dance, they're playing
Goodbye horses.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
There it is.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It's a staple of the show and there it is
a little early in the show earlier, but you know
it is a holiday weeks get.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Out, Oh lord, we don't want those No.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
One way to prevent it put Philip Rivers in the
Hall of Fame. You have to do it.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I would love to do that. I love Philip Rivers.
I would say that, based on the way the math
goes in this process, highly unlikely, no matter what, No
matter what, I mean, Let's see Fitzgerald gets in right
without without too much doubt, Breeze gets in without too

(16:31):
much doubt. Jason witten Is, I mean, the numbers are monstrous.
Frank Gore, the numbers are monstrous. Now, I don't think
Frank gets in first ballot. That's three. And when you
do the math and you take two guys with probably
fifty votes each, Breeze and Fitzgerald, and you only leave

(16:53):
one hundred and fifty votes for be split up among
five other people, it's like nearly impossible to get more
than three people into the Hall of Fame in a
given year.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
So you think three per that'll be your three person
class this year.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, I think it's yeah, based on I mean, it's
it's just like it's just the math exercise and people
sit here and they get really upset when certain guys
guys don't get in the Hall of Fame, like Marshall
Yanda and Luke Keickley aren't going to get in the
Hall of Fame this year, and they you know, those
are strong kids. Vinetieri's on here, really strong candidate, right,

(17:37):
Like there's some guys on there. They say, oh, yeah,
those guys should get through. But just simply the way
that the process works, and so just so people understand
what happens is you narrow the field down from the
fifteen finalists who will eventually be named and we name.
We narrow that group down eventually to seven people, and

(17:59):
then all all the fifty voters each get five votes,
and you vote for the top five out of the
remaining seven. Well, you know, the guy has to get
eighty percent or at least the top three haves to
get in. And again, if you give Breeze fifty votes,

(18:21):
which he should get, everybody should vote for him, right,
Fitzgerald probably fifty votes. You know he's got all every
number that takes out one hundred votes out of the
basically two hundred and fifty votes, and you've got to
get forty to get in or at least be third place. Okay, Well,

(18:42):
if there's only one hundred and fifty votes left and
there are five people still on the ballot to be
sorted through. The numbers start to not work. So that's
where like Eli Manning, I don't know if he's ever
going to get in, Philip Rivers, It's this is brutal,

(19:05):
Like people in New York are going to have a
fit about Eli Manning based on the way we vote
right now. He's never getting in. And it's not because
he doesn't deserve it. It's because the numbers simply don't work.
And this is why, you know, this is going to
be our third year of doing it, and the worst

(19:25):
part of every listening to our second year of doing it,
The worst part that happens is we talk about all
the guys who actually, you know, do deserve to get
in and then fall into that senior category that guys
like to call it the senior abyss. Well, we're stockpiling
guys and backlogging guys who really should get in from
the modern era, and those days will eventually get pushed

(19:48):
into the senior category when they really do deserve to
get in, And so we're going to have I mean,
it's not like you know, I make sun of that.
Drew Pearson's and hair Car Michael's and chetalities of the world. Right,
But you know, like I really debate whether those guys

(20:08):
deserve to get in. Eli Manning never get you know,
like never getting close. It's really weird, Like I'm not
sure he's a Hall of Famer, but he's damned close.
And there was a great point made in a recent debate,
like if you look back at those Giants teams that
won two titles, and you know, in in a short

(20:30):
period of time, right, you know, over a five year
period of time, who's ever going to get into the
Hall of Fame from those two Super Bowl winners? Is
it Eli? It's you know, straight hands in he was
on the first one, but he wasn't on the second one. Coughlin,
Maybe name another guy who's going to get in the

(20:51):
Hall of Fame from those two teams. And those are
the two historic teams. They want historic runs. And I'm
not saying that there's like ten Hall of Famers from
those teams, but usually teams that get win a couple
of Super Bowls in a short period of time have
three or four. I don't know that they're going to
have more than one.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Chaos ensues heinz warn has to have special consideration we're
out running Baines explosives in the Dark Knight Rising.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
But we'll get to that another time. Jason Cole, that
is that.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Is that is definitely a hall of Fame word.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Yes, well, I mean it's the fastest he ever ran.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
No, when you're also the only survivor of that game,
you kind of have to go into the hall of fame.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Too, So there you go.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
There you have it, all right, So let's hit the rewind.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Button first, get that reference.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
A lot Batman? Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Everybody gets the gets the modern day Batman reference. Everybody does.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Now if we go for some Frank Gorshon or little
uh Frank Frank Gore, Yes, Frank Gorshon.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, correct, he's a model candidate.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
So there are all right. So I've hit the rewind button.
Shardoor Sanders, much debate, much valued. I just grab my
beer and I wait for the sequel. And that's all
it is for me. But what did you take from
the first effort from him?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
It was fine, he's playing. He's playing in a preseason game.
I mean, like those guys the Raiders have quit, They're awful.
Let's not take away he did what he was supposed
to do. He he literally couldn't do more than that

(22:39):
because the Browns weren't didn't need to do more than that.
So it's not it's not negative, it's not positives. There
are just some games where you go through the motions
and you play and this happened to be the first start,
and you're playing a team that's so bad that you
don't have to really do anything heroic. He was fine,

(23:01):
they were you know, was he great now? But he
didn't have to be great? So okay, next job, won
a game. Let's move to the next one. I don't
draw any conclusions based on Shador Sanders based on that,
nor would I even if he had stunt again the
way that he stunt against the Ravens, I still wouldn't

(23:24):
draw any kind of final conclusion because you want to
see more. I still wonder about his ability to adjust
to the speed of the game. That's that's going to
forever be a question until he proves otherwise, because he
certainly wasn't great at it in college. So we'll see.
But hey man, good job, where to go, Time to

(23:48):
get to get San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, Jason Guest, Jason Smith, Mike, I mean I know.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
That's not exactly deep analysis.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
No no, look, I said this.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
So when we talked about it last night, I said,
they won the game. He made a couple of nice
I thought on Friday, I said, he's going to make
a couple of nice plays because he stands in. He's
going to throw the football, he can deliver it. Okay,
he'll make a couple of nice plays. The Raiders are terrible,
they'll win, and the team will be excited, and he'll
earn another start. And that's kind of no more, no less.
He did enough to earn another start, and so we

(24:21):
get to start this week. That's kind of where I'm at.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, and it plays against the Sandwances to their team.
That's not exactly killing it either. I mean, you know,
brock Perty tried everything he did yesterday to give them
the game, the game away. And I like brock Perty,
but yeah, he was terrible yesterday and you just got
to call them what it was, right, But he was

(24:44):
good enough to win a game against a bad team
at home on a Monday night. You know. Again, move
on to the next game. And this is what happens
in the NFL sometimes. So with Shador, let's see how
you're doing against forty nine ers. Go for it?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
All right, So let's move on to next game. First
of all, I want to ask you this, is there
any doubt in your mind that Chiefs Cowboys is going
to be the highest rated game in the NFL this year?
We could have like ninety million people watching this game
on Thanksgiving game it is that that's.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
A yeah, that's a pretty good one. And so there's
again there's no compelling reason, like there's not going to
be like an undefeated team like where we had what
the Giants, the Giants against the Patriots on that Saturday
night game when the Patriots were undefeated going at the
end towards the end of the regular season and everybody

(25:34):
why to watch it. We're not going to have a
game like that this year. So yeah, like yeah, that's
that's I'm not sure. And that's like like this is
Jerry's Jerry's perfect year. Because they're five to five and one,
so they've achieved, you know, they've achieved s a glory status.

(25:54):
I didn't say gloria whole status, the glorious status. So
they're like they're in the perfect Jerry position because they
could go eight and one this year, which means they're
they're just exciting enough to be mediocre, and people are
still watching them and are compelled to watch them because

(26:16):
there's nothing else that they can do but watch the Cowboys.
So this is like the stars have aligned. It's like
the Age of Aquarius for Jerry Jones when.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
The moon is in the seventh House. All right, Friday,
we got the Bears the lines with see now we've
taken him down. Hopefully it's a good The plan is.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I'm sorry and love will. I can't remember the words anymore. Damn,
I was. I was on a roll there too. Okay,
going on, moving on? What do you have to do?

Speaker 4 (26:50):
You believe in the Bears at all? And will the
Eagles ever get the smelling salts?

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I believe in the Bears? Yeah. I mean this is
fun because camvib Williams is learning how to play quarterback
at the NFL level, which is cool to watch because
he's super talented. And feel like Ben Johnson is getting
through somehow, some way. I don't know how he's doing it,
but it's getting through Philadelphia. I mean, we've talked about

(27:19):
Jalen Hurts, right when I told you guys a long
time ago, like they don't. They don't like him, and
they still don't, but they're like they're the best team
in football when they want to be. Their problem is
they don't have a lot of guys left who are
mature enough to want to be great every week, right,

(27:44):
you know, they don't have the Fletcher Coxes or the
Jason Kelseas anymore to say, like, we're supposed to be good,
let's play like it all the time. They have guys
like Jalen Carter who doesn't know how to be great
every week, but you know, at some point we'll want
to be great, just long enough so that he can
get paid his next contract. We got aj Brown who

(28:07):
talked about wanting to be great, but also like wants
the ball a lot because he's a wide receiver and
that's just the nature of it. Yeah, hurts who just
kind of clueless. But it's great at times. I mean,
like you looked at his two Super Bowl performances. Those
as did the Super Bowl performances. Then you know they

(28:28):
lost one, but he did everything that he possibly did
to win those games. So there's times when he shows up.
I still have no doubt that they are the best
team in the league. They just do silly things, and
as I like to say, a lot of time, they
play with their food way too much. And they did
that again against Dallas, where they played with their food

(28:51):
and then the mistakes came back and bit him in
the ass. That's how it works with them.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
You can follow on Twitter at Jason cole sixty two.
That is at Jason sixty two.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Hey, congratulations on beating Cal and Andrew Luck's uh viral
sideline interview.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
That is one of the greatest things of all time.
I'm gonna go see Andrew this Saturday. I thinks sense
I'm gonna be back for the I'm going to the
Notre Dame game, So go for that.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
I want you to okay for us and we'll play
it on the show next week.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I want you to guard the discussion between me and
Andrew lux yes whose voice.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Is what yes?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
And talk about it and talk about how you sound
like each other. That's what I want for next week.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I've never had that discussion with him, and I need
to go and tell me.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
If he doesn't do it, you're just gonna impersonate him
on the radio from now on. It say crazy things.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Well that would be working really well if he was
famous enough that I could make money off that.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Right, Well, we'll do it for then then then we'll
then we'll monetize it. By Jacob Haday. Time now to
find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Is someone who's been called the Andrew Luck of Fox
Sports Radio because he has his own burner civil war
Twitter accounts, it's huge to say, let's start the NBA
scoreboard as the Lakers.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Hey, dear mother, the basketball games are really crazy.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
Now say you can have Peter Coyote narrate with great
violin music in the background. Lakers are hosting the Clippers.
They still have two minutes left in the first quarter.
Lakers up thirty three, twenty eight in this one. Only
two other NBA games tonight, Orlando was a winner at
Philadelphia one forty four to one oh three, Orlando with
a franchise record eighty six points scored in the first

(30:42):
Philadelphia center Joel at Beid was out for an eighth
straight game with his knee injury. At Washington, CJ McCollum
forty six points. The Wizards ended a fourteen game losing streak,
ripping Atlanta one, thirty two to one thirteen. Washington led
thirty one to eight. Early McCollum finished from three point
range ten of thirteen. Shay Gilis Alexander of Oklahoma City

(31:04):
is questionable for Wednesday due to illness. Mavericks center Derek
Lively will miss at least the next three games with
a foot entry. In college basketball, Tennessee defeated number three
Houston seventy six seventy three, seventh thrank Michigan all over
Auburn one O two seventy two. Gonzaga has beaten up
in Maryland one hundred to sixty one, and in the
Bay Area tonight it's eighteenth ranked UCLA trailing Cow fifty

(31:28):
eight to fifty one over the Bruins with eleven minutes
to go. Just one NHL game tonight. Dallas has won
eight three at Edmonton. There are fifteen NHL games on Wednesday,
than none on Thanksgiving, then fifteen more on Friday. The
Red Sox acquired pitcher Sonny Gray from the Cardinals. Oklahoma
State's new football coach is Eric Morris, who will leave

(31:48):
North Texas after this season. His current team is ten
and one. Tulane is the best of the group of
five teams in the new rankings out tonight Tulane number
twenty four in the new College Football Player rankings. The
top five stayed the same this evening, led by number
one Ohio State, which will play at number fifteen Michigan
this Saturday on Fox TV. Oregon's up to number six

(32:10):
in the country. Miami is the highest of the ACC
teams at number twelve, but Miami may not even be
in the ACC title game since they already have a
couple of conference losses. We have three NFL games this Thursday,
including Green Bay at Detroit. Packers running back Josh Jacobs
was limited at walkthrough with a knee injury. He did
not play last Sunday. Then on Thursday, it'll be Kansas

(32:32):
City at Dallas. The Chiefs confirmed that running back Isaiah
Pacheco will return to play that game. He's missed the
past month with a knee injury. The Buffalo Bills signed
wide receiver Brandon Cooks, who was just weighed by the Saints.
New Orleans signed kicker Cade York and cut Blake Groupie.
By the way, there is a third game, of course,
Thursday nights on Thanksgiving. It's Baltimore hosting Cincinnati and quarterback

(32:54):
Joe Burrow. For the Ravens, quarterback Lamar Jackson returned to
full practice today. He has had tow and and.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Knee injuries recently. Back to you, Thank you, Steve l.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
coming up next. You didn't think tonight could be the
night where someone is on pace to maybe pass Kobe
Bryant's eighty one point game.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
But maybe we'll tell you all about it next right here,
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Speaker 2 (33:23):
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Speaker 1 (33:31):
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Speaker 5 (33:39):
Well, you didn't think tonight would be the night that
maybe Kobe Bryant's second all time mark of eighty one
points would be threatened, But we could actually see it.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Because if you want to hear the definition of a
heat check that she got right now for Luka Donciic
five because.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Jublots tried to control, couldn't here come the Lakers who
don't necessarily run either.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
That is a logo three and that's good Lucah feeling
it here early on at Clipto Peacock on the call.
It was after that shot, he looked over at the
Clippers bench, like you gotta double me. Like he loves
he loves for some reason, he loves John with the Clippers, right,
he just loves doing I mean it's the Clippers, but
he just loves doing it.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
He looked over the bench. It was like it was
almost like to.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Jordan Shrugg, like you gotta do this. And maybe that's
something the Clippers want to think about, because through the
first quarter. Luka Doncic is on pace four ninety two
points tonight, as he scored twenty four in the first
quarter for the Lakers. There early in the second, Clippers
lead at forty three forty one, Luca taking a much
deserved couple minute break here. Yeah, but twenty four in

(34:51):
the first quarter for Luca. He was nine out of
fourteen from the field, five out of eight from three
point range, and well, no, is he gonna score eight
eight ninety And.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
It's good that you know we came back, because otherwise
your math would have been suspect if it was just
after the first.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Quarter, right, yeah, it was. He had twenty four at all,
forty eight minutes on pace.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
For that too. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
Yeah, the fat bigger friend JJ Reddick has benched him here.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, it was just wrong a guy fourteen. He's killing
it on a cup night.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I think.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
I think even skinny Luca needs arrest, dude. The ten
to night and Luca needs nothing. His shoulder from the
first quarter alone is gonna dude, I got a rest.
Like I'm surprised he does have a big ice pack
on his shoulder, like like Zach Wheeler after he finished.
He's still front runner for MVP. Guys, Oh, I got
news for you. Feeding on the souls of the Clippers.
Luka Doncic may win the NBA MVP by the beginning

(35:45):
of the year. Like like in in the NBA, the
NBA is different from other leagues like the NFL and
Major League Baseball because you think about this. Look, obviously,
Luca's on pace for the fifty plus point night. I mean,
he's the MVP favorite, and I wouldn't be surprised if
he has a clinch by the beginning of the year.
Currently in the NFL, in the NBA, in the NFL,

(36:07):
in Major League Baseball, we really look at how you finish,
especially in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Here's all these guys out here, how are they playing?
But how do you finish?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Right?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Major League Baseball MVP, how do you finish? Otani won
because while look at how he finished, he pitched so
well in September, he wins.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
NBA is different.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
NBA is if you get out to that lead and
you become the front runner, it's really difficult to give
it up. It's a weird phenomenon that that's how the
NBA MVP situation goes versus other leagues. But when you
get out to that, you know, like shake Gil just
Alexander last year, the fifty point games. The first couple
of months, he was never threatened, right, it was okay, well,
maybe Jokic again, but look, Yokich had won three Are

(36:46):
you really gonna do that the other previous years Jokic
had gone out all the triple doubles.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
He had it won by the beginning of January.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Luka, Doncic is gonna have the MVP clinch by the
beginning of January.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Yeah, it's still a nonsensical thing. It's like, ah, we've
seen you do so you can't be the MVP.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
This year.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
But that's where Nikoli Jokich is in his career still
as we sit here on this beautiful Tuesday, ahead of
the Thanksgiving holiday, on this glorious cup night, Jokic plus
one fifty five, Shay Gildess, Alexander at plus one sixty five,
Luca you can still get them at plus three ninety.
But act now because those odds are gonna change.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Kind Of like Matthew Stafford on Sunday was I think
third in the MVP odds before the Rams kicked off
Sunday Night football, he was the favorite. Well, I mean
you have to take a snap, yeah, but because of
what was going on with the other principals at the
top of the board, all of a sudden, like yep,
Stafford's a favorite, and then they go out and absolutely
boat race the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
But I mean, but you think about the lead that
Luca is out to right. What he's doing is, you know,
leading the Lakers not not only being in the top
three for most offensive stats, but the Lakers are really good.
They're surprisingly good. They grabbed the storyline right out of
the gate as good as the Pistons. Ay thirteen year old,
that's right, But No one's going crazy for Kate Cunningham,

(38:05):
but that would be the one thing that I think
would be curious, right, Not that they're gonna run off
a fifty game winning streak or whatever, but if they
are number one in the East, and in yes, the
East is down currently, he's at fifty to one, that
in terms of tickets could be an interesting one to
watch as this season develops. Right If the Pistons are

(38:27):
what they've shown through the first what seventeen eighteen games
of the year, and they're able to create a little
bit of separation from some of the chattel in the
Eastern Conference, that perhaps we start looking for an MVP
candidate there because the resurrection of a long dead franchise. Yeah,
I mean that, Look, that's a thing, but it's not

(38:49):
nearly the sexiness of Luca.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, but Lebron's still there.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Doesn't matter now, Luca doing what he's doing and Lebron
being the and look, I think a lot of MP
voters would see that and go man pushed Lebron to
the side, Like, I wonder, is Lebron gonna score in
double digits every game?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Is he gonna is that?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Is that gonna continue? Is are there gonna be enough
for him? Is there gonna be enough shots for him
to be able to do that? Like what Luca and
the sexiness and the and the front page news of
the Lakers is gonna blow away anything the Pistons do anything.
It's gonna be rare to for a Pistons player to
win NBA MVP. You gotta put up stats like you
gotta lead the league in everything.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
It was hard enough for you know, Oklahoma City Thunder
and Shay Gilders Alexander, but he had the storyline. They
were great all year and when it came down to it,
it was either well, we're giving it to Yokic again
or SGA. The NBA likes new stars being crowned, so there, Uh,
it's gonna be impossible. Luca plays like this, he's gonna
be the NBA MVP.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, I mean it's Look, it's a long season. We've
already talked about, you know, uh having some some issues
and missing a couple of games early on. We'll see
the longevity of it all. I mean, he's got to
get to sixty five. I mean until it gets to
game sixty five. Yeah, yeah, matters, right, because MB was
an MVP for three weeks.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Poor Wemby, Man, I just hope he gets bad. I mean,
I know, he's so good, he's so dominant, Like, I
just hope this is where his body has to catch
up to the pounding of the NBA, right, But but
it didn't happen for Greg Odin, So you guys gotta
hope it happens for Wemby.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
You just compared me.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
That was the same kind of drink, Dad, That was
kind of the same kind of hype coming in. Hey,
Odin's gonna be this dominant that his body was never
able to keep up to it. Merlin's beard by what
Luca will have the MVP clinched by the beginning of January.
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. We'll have
more NBA but on the way. Next we preview and

(40:41):
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