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December 27, 2025 41 mins

Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (in for Jason Smith) open hour 2 discussing the news that Maxx Crosby stormed out of the Raiders facility after being told he's being put on season-ending IR... Do they think he'll be on the team next year, or might we se a trade in the offseason? Jason Cole from The 33rd Team joins the show to weigh in with his own thoughts and help the guys look ahead to Sunday's slate of NFL games.

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schedule and all the work that our team does behind
the scenes as we get ready for twenty twenty six.
Big story coming out of the NFL earlier today, it's
the battle for the number one pick overall, ye arnie.
But we had Max Crosby sent home. The report from
Jay Glazer was they said, hey, it's it's been a

(03:08):
good run, congratulations on a job done for the year,
but it's time for you to take your leave and
go home. Here was his scoopage. Raiders told Max Crosby
they want to shut him down the last two games. Crosby,
he's played with injuries much of the year. Vmently disagreed.
Has left the building. NFL on Fox has learned this
could lead to questions on his future in Vegas, which

(03:30):
were already swirling a bit as they looked at the
new direction, new new players, whether the coaching staff has retained,
all of that as management kind of shuffles under Davis Brady,
et cetera. But when we look at Max Crosby being
shut down his presence, he's one of eleven, and while
he may be fantastic, their defense was not to be

(03:55):
kind about it, and whether he wanted to play or not.
And you talk to most football players, I mean, they're
football players. They play through pain, they played through injuries.
As soon as we get the guys off the line
the first couple of reps of the preseason, they're no
longer in mint condition anymore, Arnie, and now it's just
a battle of what's your pain tolerance threshold and whether

(04:19):
you're hurt slash injured and all of that diatribe. But
for Max Crosby, there's nothing to be gained for the
Raiders at this point. You've got a contract or you've
got the trade potential in the offing. The last thing
you want to have happen is for him to get
hurt in a game against the Giants.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Right right, you don't want him to get hurt. You're
at the bottom. You're fighting out for the number one pick.
We'll find out where they have it. Certainly I would
sit him down to find the Raiders I want that
number one pick. This is their way of tanking to
get that number one pick. And if they don't get
the number one pick, they can use Max Cosby to

(04:58):
trade on up to get that number one overall pick
if they so desire, if that's the quarterback they want,
so I certainly understand where the Raiders are coming from.
I understand where Max is coming from. Good for him,
he's a player. He wants to be out there with
his teammates. Unfortunately, it does the Raiders no good to

(05:18):
risk that type of stuff or risk his injury. I
think he'll end up getting traded anyway in the offseason.
To be honest with you, they don't need a contract
like that, and they certainly have to take care of Bowers.
He's certainly going to get the big, big money. They
have to get themselves a quarterback. If they don't get
one in the draft, maybe they get themselves a veteran quarterback.

(05:39):
So I understand where the Raiders are coming from, and
I'm behind them on this one.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
You'd already shut down Bowers for the year. Crosby's in
the first of a three year deal, three years, one
hundred and six million dollars extension. So you talk about
the investment, and we do this all the time, trying
to ascribe value to me. It always comes back to you.
I need a part, I need a thrower, and I
need an attacker my tap or pat system, depending on

(06:05):
how you want to do it. Right, protector, attacker, thrower,
that's it. Those three I need solidified, and then I
start building from there. Well, they've got the attacker. The
rest of it not so much. Genty's been pretty good
in spots. Jenoby Myers more or less had a sign
on his back that said trade me for weeks before

(06:26):
they finally got rid of him to Jacksonville. He goes
to Jacksonville, has a couple of big games, a couple
of big blocks to free up their run game, and
suddenly he gets a massive extension. But for the Raiders,
you're in a division where you're chasing all three teams,
even in Kansas City. As they go to retool, rebuild,
whatever that becomes. Travis Kelcey seems like he's finishing the string.

(06:48):
Whether he gets his fifty seven yards this next week
or not remains to be seen. But Patrick Mahomes is
on the way back from a big rehabilitation process. Needs
an offensive line wide receiver. But you still have Andy
Reid at least for now. Everything keeps plugging along. You
look at what Denver has been able to build as

(07:09):
they get out from under what Russell Wilson's contract was,
bo Nicks and the fourth quarter magic that they have.
It would have been a better game if Courtland Sutton
had held on to that touchdown pass. See I got you,
fantasy owners, I got you.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
R J.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Harvey looks like a pretty good player. And then we
talk about the Chargers and the depth they have there
and eventually the offensive line will either be reconstituted and
regenerated or they'll go find new guys. Right, So you're
chasing in division, let alone the rest of the AFC.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
No, you're right, and it's going to be a tough
climb up except for now the Kansas City. You saw
what happened to Mahomes. How much long is Andy Reid
going to be around. My question is this forget about
how long Andy Reid's going to be around. What's gonna
happen to Pete Carroll? Do you make that move? I
don't need Pee Carroll rebuilding my team. I think it's
time to just move on without him. Yeah, I'm looking
at age here. He's certainly too old. Time has passed

(08:03):
him by. Who's the guy that could turn around the
Raiders and lead him out of where they are right
now with a two and thirteen record, maybe finishing at
two and fifteen. Who's the guy that you know says
I'll get myself as a quarterback and we'll turn this
thing around. Tom Brady's gonna have to make the move.
Didn't do it right with the chip Kelly higher, but

(08:25):
something's got to give, and I don't know where to
begin this thing.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I still want to that onion peeled back a
little bit. If I can get an in season hard
knocks with whatever footage they can call from the Raiders facilities,
think that would be fun. The Chip Kelly stuff and
Pete Carroll and going on current odds, Clint Kubiak is
the leader, Todd Monkin second, Joe Brady of the Bills, Third,

(08:50):
Cliff Kingsbury, Stenovich, Vance, Joseph Brian Flores gone down the line,
Mike McCarthy at eighteen to one. Wow, big long shot
on the board was Dan Lanning at thirty three to one.
What are the odds of.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Them keeping Pete Carroll and just saying we'll go with
him one more year?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well, and that's the thing, right, you have to decide,
how does the long road begin with just the first
step of changing out the coach or do you need
to rebuild your infrastructure before you start pushing ahead?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Any odds on Tom Brady being the coach? Any odds
on Tom Brady Brady be in the quarterback? You tellt me.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
He certainly wouldn't have taken as many sacks as Gino did.
He certainly wouldn't have turned the ball over as many
times as Gino did. Look, we talked about this a
lot yesterday, the dearth of quality quarterbacks, particularly as you
go down to the second and third tiers and the
second and third strings, to where Philip Rivers looks really
good compared to a lot of other guys that have

(09:47):
taken snaps. And we're into the mid fifties in terms
of quarterbacks who've taken a start this season. But yeah,
the Pete Carroll will he stay or will he go?
Is really one of the interest things here over these
next couple of weeks as the Tom Brady Spy Tech
again unfortunate surname or a really good one depending on

(10:09):
your point of view. Uh, the GM of the Raiders
that they installed, you know, how quickly do they think
they can rebuild this or do you just need to
keep someone I don't want to say status quote because
your team's.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Terrible, right, you can't keep forget about.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
But it's more just the idea of is there something
from what Pete Carroll's done this year that you think
is a net positive long term or has it just
been an abject failure?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
And who calls the shots too? Is it going to
be Davis? Is Tom Brady gonna go into Davis's office
and say, hey, this is what we got to do,
so this is the way we're riding the ship?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, I would guess shots. Yeah, I would guess that
Davis and the other owners of the Raiders. There's all
deference to Tom Brady and whatever he says and Spy Tech, right, so.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
To him for sure.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, but in the end you've entrusted them. I mean,
you bring in Tom Brady as part of your group
and give him some clout and personnel decision making sitting
in the booth. Remember when that was such a big deal. Yeah,
got that advantage play out. Yeah, we're hary that we're
doing so much of.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
A Raiders are gonna go seventeen to zero because of that.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know the dumbest thing I ever heard. Yes, tom
Brady's in the meetings. It's gonna translate what's gonna translate
to someone's got a one funny one liner about the
guy's nighttime proclivities. I mean, yeah, you still need players,
which they clearly did not have. He could have had
all the answers to the test with this roster, it
was still gonna be terrible.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
And tom Brady, you know, he's obviously very competitive. He
doesn't want his legacy to look like this. He's got
to say something because right now people are pointing a
finger to him over the Chip Kelly Well.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Because that's the other part of it. Right He's watched
the other goats from pick A Sport go down to
the Michael Jordan ownership Highway made a lot of money,
but when he tried to press on the scale to
bring in guys he liked. They might have all been
great college players, they might have been the you know,
the right stuff between the ears, but they couldn't play

(12:12):
right then one after another. So now it just becomes
that question for the Raiders as you go to rebuild
this thing, do you think you need? How special is
Pete Carroll without John Schneider eight seven to seven ninety
as we go through right, because how much blame credit

(12:32):
whatever term you want to use, You know, how much
credit does he get when you go back to the
way those teams were structured because John Schneider in a
second act. It took a couple of years. But now
that he's fully picking the groceries and making the decisions
back and seeing, look at where they are again, a
lot of think talent on both sides of the ball
and rising.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
I think I got to let the season play out.
See if I have the number one or number two pick.
If I have the number two pick and I slowly
want the quarter back from Indiana, I made trad Max
cause me to move on up. I've got to say
goodbye to Pete Carroll, it's time for him to go.
I'm gonna rebuild with somebody else, somebody who's a lot younger,
maybe like a Dan Campbell type or something like that,

(13:14):
and just started from the very beginning and work it
up and and you see what Tom's got to say,
and see which direction he wants to go on. But
I've got to make a movie. Like you said, you know,
it's insanity to think that things are gonna change if
I bring Pete Carroll back.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It's's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, it'll be fun to go through the tape and
what it's showing us right as opposed to look, he
won the Heisman Trophy. He's right now, he's on top
of the world in Mendoza and what he's been able
to do. They're undefeated going into the playoffs. It's all
great against the better teams. Wasn't transcending, right they got

(13:52):
W's take nothing away from it, but it becomes one
of those all right into tape. What am I seeing?

Speaker 5 (13:57):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Is he that guy at the next level or is
he just the best of what has become a thinner
crop of quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
I like him, I like his size, I like, look,
is arch Manning the guy that you'd want to take.
I mean, we're gonna question everybody that comes out.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
We always do, and we should, right the whole point
of being behind these microphones and trying to have a
conversation the eye test and where it goes to the
next level, right, because thirty three and six nearly three
thousand yards Mendoz has been fantastic. But once upon a
time when we look at what this quarterback class was, right,
everybody was like, hey, twenty six will be great, and

(14:36):
then all of a sudden, one by one, nuss Meyer
got benched. He just had a b arch Manning ended
up having an okay season. He's gonna go and and
play in the Sitchers Bowl this coming week against Michigan.
But all they want the players that were expected, all
the Heisman favorites, all the guys that we were looking

(14:56):
as the All right, they'll come out and they'll be
top five picks. And we know the way the works,
there's only maybe one or two that will grade out
as first round picks. But guess what you need a quarterback?
Five guys I get drafted in the first.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Round, especially if you're a Raiders, You need the quarterback.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
But you definitely need that, right, So do you overreach?
Is it an overreach? Is it? You know? And who's
the person to bring them along? Because as we've seen,
that's instrumental. Right, Caleb Williams a year ago and the
bad decision making sack wise didn't turn the ball over
a ton That was great, but also didn't push the
ball down the field nearly at all.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
If the Giants had the number one pick, would they
dare give say we're just gonna take Mendoz and we'll
just pass on Jackson Dart and we'll trade him or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, that's topic we can bring up. Well, we visit
that one next hour. We'll put a pin into that.
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(18:09):
in his stead our guy Arnie Spanier, the stinkin genius
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(19:14):
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Speaker 5 (19:21):
Wow? Yeah, there we go. We're so ready for this.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
There you go. Week seventeen of your National Football League
Buddy three games in the books All barn Burners.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
There's a Christmas Day was something, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
For the Snoop dog was pretty good?

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yeah, Snoop Dogg was great. When you say that, the
halftime show was was was the major event that tells
you about the game.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Snoop Dogg and Duck Hodges because he was riding in
Santa Sleigh alongside his fiance Laney Wilson.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
It was beautiful time.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's a beautiful time.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
I was. I was a tears So did you try?
How are you going to feel Sunday night? I want
to know how you're going to be Sunday. Are you
going to be some nervous that you can't handle it?
Is that what it's going to be?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm going to watch Saturday Night when Malik Willis takes
on Snoop Huntley, and That'll decide how much I'm really
excitable or nervous on Sunday night.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
You still got to win that game. You still got
to like improve it to the Bears no matter what. Well.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I get that, But in terms of securing the first
item on the checklist of winning the division, all you
need is Snoop Hunley and Derrick Henry to outplay Malik
Willison whoever shows up for the Packers.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Yeah, that's true, but I'm I'm kind of thinking, I'm
kind of think of the Packers take that game. Just
kind of thinking.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
But you're just trying to say that because you want
to get me all agitated.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
I want I want drama. I want drama on Sunday.
It's no fun if there's no drama. And the other
thing is I want that three way tie in the West.
I want somehow the forty nine ers to to win
that division and create a three way tie at the
top because and somehow win that division because they're not

(21:11):
the strongest team there, but it would be it would
be sort of fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
By the way, if I don't jump in, Mike's not
gonna let me talk, Jason. But is it we can
have all the teams already in the playoffs. By the
games on Sunday, we'll have all the spots taken. This
is the worst uh uh, you know run for the
playoffs I've ever seen. It's horrible. There's no good race
is going on.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Well, that's an uplofting question, Arnie. There that's the way
to keep.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
You going you just talking about drama and you just.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Yeah, like I was really trying to set it up.
I was. I was just like, hey, we could have
some fun with this. This could be great, Arnie, but
it could all.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Be boring, it could all be wrapped up.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Way way to go, Arnie? Where you go?

Speaker 3 (21:59):
He couldn't hit you with the tua question that he had.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, there you go?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Oh my god, there we go. All right, Arnie, You're
you're normally a little bit more excited about this stuff
than that. So I'm thrown a little bit here, really
thrown by your attitude here right now.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Well, because I'm a Dolphin fan, I've had nothing to
root for for a long long time.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
So it's been well, I mean, Arnie, that's your fault.
You you want to be a fan. That's okay, that's
that's your life. You ruined it. I'm sorry. Well, what
do you want me to tell you?

Speaker 4 (22:36):
You're born into it, to tell me what you think
about two of them? Because I mean, are they gonna
move him for a little more Jackson? Are they gonna
move him for Murray? Are they just gonna move him
and go in a different direction? What are they going
to do.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
With him who wants him?

Speaker 4 (22:51):
I think a lot of teams want him.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Yeah, but they're not can trade for him. I mean,
that's not happening. I mean, like it's gonna let him
get and because they're not going to be a part
of that contract.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Right, that's true.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
And so like you know, the people who think he
has values somehow, that's not That's just not the case.
Not at that contract. He has valued a smaller contract,
a prove it deal with somebody else, which is fine
that you know, go do that. I think that you know,
Tua still has the ability to be a league average

(23:24):
quarterback for somebody and if everything comes together, you can
make the playoffs Tua. That's that's you know, like that's
not you know, that's not really a problem. The problem
for Tua is he's not going to make enough plays
in the playoff situation that you can actually win it.
And the other thing is he's going to be injured
a lot. So we know the story of what Tua

(23:45):
is what the Dolphins do to replace Tua. I mean,
do you really think Baltimore's moving off from wal March Jackson?

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yes, I do, Yes, I do. I don't think he'll
be a member of the Ravens, no matter if it's
Miami or wherever he goes. I don't think he's going
to be on that team next year.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
I have no idea where you get that idea.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
I think think there's a lot of bad blood right now.
I don't. I think there's a lot of bad blood,
not only with Lamar, with the team. I think there's
bad blood that's being leaked out about him getting practice changed.
I think the fans now are starting to turn on
him and he's starting to feel it. I totally think
it's a bad situation right now out there.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, I think Steve Bashatti is the smart enough man
to go, yeah, we need the quarterback and we're going
to keep that guy and we'll make him happy somehow,
some way. Steve Bashatti is a very very smart man.
And so your dream scenario here, which is you get
rid of Tua, which is your first step, and then
you get Lamar Jackson to come home. That ain't happen

(24:48):
in PW. It's just not happening. And I hate to
rain on your parade, But after you talk to me
about there's no drama here, this is what you get.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Well, he tried to create some drama right saying well,
Lamar will be gone. What about John Harbaugh? Seems like
all the bad blood about someone ought to be fired
and shifting from Mike Tomlin over to Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, because they had lost that game to Pittsburgh, and
you know, Lamar Lamar's Lamar has had a rough year,
no question about it. But this is a team that
was on the edge of the Super Bowl the last
couple of years. Again, I come back to everybody can
say all they want to say, but nobody ever talks

(25:30):
directly to Steve Bashadi. And I'm met Steve Bashady a
bunch of times, and that's a really clever dude. Okay,
He's really good at reading people and understanding what they do.
He's one of the smartest owners in the league. And
he's he's stood pat with John Harbaugh and he's created

(25:52):
a culture there that supersedes short term tantrums. And that's
everything that he's tried to do. All right, And so
he'll come in and he's smart enough and rich enough,
and powerful enough and convincing enough if you listen to
him and you've ever sat with him, and he can
get people settled down, and he can get people to

(26:14):
say to come back to the table, and he can
look at Lamar and say, Lamar, you're going to go
to another team that doesn't know how to build around you.
We have built an entire system completely for you, dedicated everything,
and John Harbaugh has been the guy. You guys are
letting a little bit of short term pressure and you know,

(26:35):
a bit of short term failure, you know, which is
said by the fact that you've been hurt this year,
which is a legitimate. Nobody's blaming you for being hurt,
but you know you've let that get to potentially ruining it,
ruining a good thing. Let's not do that. Now you
can go back and you can micromanage it theren Harbaugh
and say he didn't even handle this game, or he

(26:57):
didn't do this. Hey, look, there's a bunch of mistakes
to go around with Baltimore for the last few years.
A lot of them fall in Lamar's lap, a lot
fall in Harbaugh's lap. A bunch of them fall into
Mark Andrews's lap. Right, Yeah, the offensive Yeah, the offensive
coordinator gets his share for some bad play calling. You know,

(27:18):
Zay Flowers got you know, got a fumble in there. Okay,
I mean, there's a lot to go around and how
they did not end up winning a Super Bowl here
in the last couple of years. But don't throw the
whole way just because you had one rough year. I mean,
that'd be like the Kansas City Chiefs saying we're going
to tear every you know, we're trading you know, Patrick

(27:40):
Mahomes after this.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I mean, come on, Arnie already posited that last hour.
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Already?

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Had Mahomes going to Miami? No?

Speaker 4 (27:48):
I did.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
He's got everybody he's got to pages.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Would if you don't think Jackson's gone, what about somebody
like Kyler Murray? I mean, I've got to assume that
he's gone.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
For the Why why are we always say why are
we like somehow equivocating Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray? Like,
you know, one of these things is not like the other.
One of them doesn't belong. And that's Kyler Murray. Okay,
all right, Tyler Murray is not Lamar Jackson. Kyler Murray

(28:19):
is a guy who hasn't put the work in, who
hasn't done what he needed to do, got hurt as well,
all right, but never has accomplished anything close to what
Lamar Jackson has accomplished in this league. It's had some
moments that has done some interesting things, but you know,
he's never been on that kind of pedestal. You know,
like Kyler Murray is not as good as Tua, So whoa,

(28:44):
he's not. He's just not. I mean, and and neither
one of them is good enough to win a championship
for you. Now, somebody's gonna take a chance on because
there's not enough quarterbacks to go around. But Arizona is
done with it. Okay, so you know that. But like
Arnie in your world, you're like saying that the Dolphins

(29:05):
are going to a trade like a second or third
round pick to get Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, And
that's just not happening. Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
He just wants something new, is all, J Coole.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
That's all A Look, if I was a Dolphins fan,
and I look, I covered that team for a long time.
You know, nineteen ninety two to two thousand and six.
They got a lot of friends associated with that team. Okay,
even though it's been twenty years since I've been in
South Florida, thank god. But you know, like you know
as much as you know that. I I understand, you know,

(29:37):
I understand. I understand where you're coming from. Like it's
been bad for a long time in Miami. It's you know,
and it's it's sometimes at the edge of hopeless. Okay,
but there's not a quick fix that's coming, like they
have to they have to do a lot of things,
starting with higher the GM make a decision on what
they're going to do here with the head coach. You know,

(30:01):
is there going to be another coach who comes out
of the woodwork that the owner is going to like better?
Is the owner ever going to come up with a
sort of consistent philosophy. Is the GM that they hire
going to match up with keeping McDaniel's or you know McDaniel,
or is he going to be a guy who butts
heads with him? Like there's a there's a lot in

(30:21):
motion there. Okay. Now, I would have thought he would
have gotten rid of McDaniel, But he hasn't, right, and
I don't think he has a lot. I mean, the
problem is, as long as he has been the owner,
he has not really learned a lot about how football
works because he spends most of the time concentrating on

(30:42):
his real estate business. And frankly, I don't blame him.
You know, it's a lot of money tied up in
that real estate business, okay, but but you know, like
he just this is he is an example of an
owner who doesn't really understand how football operates. And he
usually is the owner who listens to the guy who

(31:02):
sits next to him during games, and who I don't
know who that is right now, I don't know who
consistently has his ear. But that's the most powerful person
in that organization, which tells you a lot about how
impulsive that organization is.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
I'm going to photoshop a picture of Arnie Span you're
sitting next to him for the.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Next at Jason Played from my Home, Straight from my Home.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
At Jason Cole sixty two, where you find him the
thirty third team, long time NFL scribe, Hall of Fame voter,
and of course, the author of many books you can
purchase to add to your collection at Amazon dot com.
J Cole, friend of the family. I appreciate you more
than you know. Appreciate you cutting jumping on with us today.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
All right, guys, Yeah, we're bringing you nights back to
the Dolphins. Cirgo there, you.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Go, be good. Buddy yah at Jason Cole putting Arnie
in his place. He's training for everybody. You can have
nine four that's in a competition. Yeah, exactly, exactly. All right,
let's go over to the news desk and Steve de Seger.
He's gonna put some sanity back into this. Steve, you
got anybody you want as a Dolphins quarterback? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (32:12):
All of them, Bob Greasy, Yeah, everybody, ult moral, all
of them. Sunday, the big game on Fox TV is
Philadelphia at Buffalo. You know there are only two late
games on the schedule. It's that and the Raiders and
the Giants, who each lost nine in a row.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Both with high stakes.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
So I look this up. Most people are not getting
a late doubleheader from the other network. So almost literally
the whole country is getting the Philadelphia Buffalo game on
Fox TV. The only exceptions are part of Nevada is
getting the Raiders, part of the Greater New York Connecticut
area is getting Giants Raiders, and.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Me, that's my area. What do they do it to me?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
To me?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
That's grey I won? Okay, so one person in the
Greater New York.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Yeah, and also Indianapolis area is getting Giants Raiders because
it's for the number one pick and the Heisman winner
from Indiana might be taken in that. After that game,
Michigan was great.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
It was crazy. I get two CBS games when there's
a lot of games in the afternoon because we have
two CBS channels, one for New York and one for Connecticut.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Oh that is great because you know when we had
the old aeriel and picking stations out of the air.
As a little kid, you could get like the Santa
Barbar station or the la or the Palm Springs or this.
It was all completely different earliods exactly. By the way,
there is that Saturday night Ravens at Packers. Green Bay.
Quarterback Jordan Love will not play due to his concussion

(33:46):
and Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson doubtful with the Bruce back.
Michigan's new football coach is Kyle Whittingham from Utah. And
we've got the late Bowl game going on with about
eight minutes to go in Dallas, ut San Antonio forty
seven to twenty over Florida International, which apparently we'll finish
seven and six. This year Minnesota was only seven and five.

(34:08):
We got an overtime win in its bowl game in
Phoenix against New Mexico twenty to seventeen. Northwestern finishes seven
and six after pounding Central Michigan in Detroit thirty four
to seven. Eight more bowl games on Saturday, including for
those who want to sit outdoors in sit Yankee Stadium
in Fenway Park.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Okay, yay to the NBA.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
We've got two late games seven minutes to go. Utah
holding on against Detroit one twenty to one seventeen. Lowry
Market in thirty points. He's from what school did he
go to?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
That would be twelve.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
At Portland. It's mid third quarter. Blazers lead the Clippers
seventy two sixty two. If the Clippers lose this, they
will be eight and twenty two this year.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Eat the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (34:52):
Austin Reeves of the Lakers out at least one month
with a calf injury. You were talking about the lack
of defense there, which is you know, painfully of It
reminds me actually seeing Lakers and Cowboys play the same
day yesterday. They remind me of each other because the
Cowboys offense is quite good, thank you. They have elite
wide receivers. They can score twenty eight thirty points a

(35:13):
game and give up thirty points a game, so you
can't take them seriously.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Anthony Davis and the Man.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Stu to miss a few games with a string growing
college basketball still on Christmas break, NHL off tonight Back
to you.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
That's our guy, Steve Disagre at the newsdask Gar executive
producer Ian Roddy at Ian Roddy Underscore part of our
I Watch Flex Podcast Fantasy Week seventeen preview. Up for you.
Alex tishert he's got myriad things going on there. I'll
figure out his handles later on. For the moment, it's
just unless he wants to tell me. Now, no socials.
He's quit social at least for another week. It's been

(35:49):
like a year. Is it really good thing?

Speaker 5 (35:51):
You? Steve?

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I have zero social media for you. I'm just a
shameless self promoter because I want people to tell me
I'm smart and pretty. Guy. There bridge happens, except right there,
cut and print that one for me, and you find
Arnie at Stinking Genius One. People tell him he's smart
all the time. Yes, unless they don't. As we continue

(36:14):
here Fox Sports Radio, Arnie's got a story. He wanted
to tell us about playing with a legend. Will you
believe I don't know you're a master of tall tales? Gosh,
we'll see if he's doing some fictional work here. As

(36:34):
we continue here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon, No Jason Tonight back in the new year.
I got already span You're in with me the stinking
genius here on Sunday nights alongside Chris Plank for three
hours of postgame revelry. Steve de Seger tries to officiate

(37:07):
those sparring contests. But if it's missed any of today's show,
check out the podcast. Search Jason Smith, Mike Garble wherever
he gets podcast right after the show and it gets
posted our guy Ian Roddy. You'll have that up. Be
sure to follow it rated five stars, even provide a review. Again.
Search Jason Smith, Mike Garble where if it gets the
podcasts you'll find today's show and the best version posted

(37:29):
right after we get off the show. I was asked,
take a moment, send that to friends and family. Evangelize.
We are a global entity and we're trying to keep
the line moving, keep growing, bringing more voices and people
in as the extended family grows and Alreadie spanier. You
are known for your basketball prowess, or the attempts, the goggles,

(37:52):
the sweat. We saw the luncheon that you and your
teammates and friends all had. But you're like, I got
a store, I got a story for you.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
My stories are the best. But I told this one
somewhat recently on the Sunday Night Shoe, So I the
Sega heard this one.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Wait, so if you've already told us it's not new,
then it's not new to you.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
If you've never heard of it, yes, exactly, didn't watch
it exactly. Let me tell you what happened. This was
like in ninety four four.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, the reason it sounds like it happened yesterday.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
No, I didn't say it happened yesterday.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I assume much recent, not when you're actually thirty years
It was when it.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Was when I was young, though we were playing. I
just got a job at a local station in vamboozled
in Phoenix, Arizona and we were playing in the three
on three basketball contest and we were playing the other
rival stations, and to me, that was like bigger than
the NBA Championship or the or the Super Bowl. I mean,
it was like everything was on this thing. And it

(38:56):
was when the Major League Baseball had to strike. And
the only reason I bring that up, Mike.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
When the White Sox are gonna win a World Series, Yes, exactly, exactly,
the Montreal right there was a strike.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
And the only reason I bring that up is one
of the guys from the other station knew a baseball player.
Since they were on strike, he was going to bring
this guy to the three on three contest that we
were playing in Okay. This guy was a Hall of Famer,
a big time baseball guy, not super super great. He
was really known for one record that he broke. Well,

(39:30):
we get to the game, he shows up and it
was Cal Ripken Jr. And the first thing I say
was and I heard he was coming, is I got
cow Because what's going through my mind is if I
hit this guy and I heard him, I will be famous.
I'll stop the streak. Everybody will be talking about me.
And we're playing basketball now right. So I the first

(39:53):
thing I said to him but was I go, this
isn't softball, cow, I hope you're ready to play some
big time ball. We're playing some big time ball. We
gave him the ball first. He came in and I slapped.
I did nothing but slap him on the arm. I
mean nothing but slaps up, slap, slapsop. I mean if
I had a knife, he'd be dead. I almost cut

(40:13):
him up. It was nothing but a total foul. He
looks at me, he makes the bucket and he goes, listen, son,
if that's the best you've got, this is going to
be a long game for you. He is stronger than
he even seems. His arms are bigger than you think. Mike,
and that guy was at like Hulk for crying out
loud man. It was insane.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah truly, feldwinked, No, didn't sound like you're playing three
and three the way you said it, three and three
versus a Hall of Famer. So I'm picking basketball hall.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
He's now he's a Why did I didn't say basketball
hall of famer? Now, did I? I just said hall
of famer? That made that made the story even better.
But anyway, he was in the I know we're running
out of time. He was in the three on three
contest and it was a blast. They beat us, but
he destroyed me. He was just too tough for me
to handle.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
May Or may not be the fifteenth time you've told
me this story. You've never heard of a one at
Swollen Dome. We continue back into the NBA. We'll continue
our talk of JJ Reddick and a Lakers season gone
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