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Speaker 3 (01:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
So here we are. NBA Draft going as predicted with
Cooper flag going number one overall to the Mavericks. That's great,
and we talked about it last hour, and we'll have
more on Cooper Flagg coming up at about twenty minutes
with Rick Buker, who's gonna stop by with us because
now you know we're gonna have trades coming up soon.
All kinds of crazy stuff. But uh, two big hot
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takes from what we've seen so far in the NBA draft,
and the first one is this. The other story that
really gained a lot of attention over the course of
the past few days was around Ace Bailey, right Rutgers Starr,
who famously didn't want to work out for the seventy
six ers. They were picking third overall, and Bailey looked
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all off season it was been w Acet, Bailey's gonna
go third, right, this is how it's gonna go. It's
gonna go Flag and Harper and Bailey, that's how it's
gonna go. But didn't want to work out for the Sixers,
didn't work out for anybody, didn't work out for anybody
right though, And you saw the narrow he wanted to
control where he got drafted.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That doesn't sound familiar at all.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You heard you heard many stories from different insiders. He
doesn't want to go to New Orleans, doesn't want to
go to Utah, doesn't want to go here, doesn't want
to go here, maybe wanted to go to Washington and
kept it very close to the vest. And I'm sure
that there was a lot of feelers put out by
he and his team about hey, hey, we're okay going here,
okay going here? And I get it. I get it
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because I get players saying if I start in New Orleans,
what's my career? I just watched Zion's career in New
Orleans and people still don't even know where the hell
if he's still in the league, right, So I I
fact that he is playing doesn't help. But I understand
players wanting to control the narrative. That's why tonight this
was such a huge story coming into tonight because one
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of two things was going to happen. Because in the
NIL era now, players have a little more cachet, a
little more leverage, because hey, I'm okay with slipping in
the draft because I'm some money already, right, I'm okay,
I have the last couple of years of last year,
whatever it is, I made some NIL money in the
millions of dollars. So I'm okay, I'm autright for right now.
So if I if I go eighth to a team
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that I really want to go to instead of going third,
I'm alright with that. I'm okay with that because I
have some money here. I have some blank you money, right,
I don't want to go here. So this was huge
because if Ace Bailey fell through the draft to a
team where he really wanted to go, and you know
he didn't want to go to Utah because he didn't
smile at all when he got picked, well, I.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Mean some guys don't smile regardless.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
If he had gotten to where he wanted to get too,
he would not be the last player that's going to say,
oh now I can take control of my draft future
and my NBA future. I'm not going to meet with anybody.
I'm not going to work out for people. I'm going
to make sure that different teams know don't draft me
because I don't want to go there, and I'm going
to get to pick my destiny. This would have changed
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the draft forever because so many players out because the
end and these are all players that made money in
college coming in saying hey, I can do this now,
I have much more cachet, and the NBA draft than
five years would be different than we've ever known it. Right,
it wouldn't be the same thing. They'd be fumbling for answers.
How do we have a draft or all the top
players they all want to go play for the Lakers
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or the Knicks, or the or the Warriors. None of
them want to go play for the Pelicans or the
Sacramento King Right. The NBA draft in five years be
completely different. But that gets absolutely shut down because the
Jazz take Ace Bailey and this is the NBA and
the Jazz saying you're not gonna dictate where you go. Now,
I'm not saying the NBA leaned on the Jazz at all,
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but if he fell through the draft, you would say, okay,
this opens the door to that. But this was the NBA,
specifically Jazz, saying, uh, yeah, you don't get to pick
where you're going right, right or wrong. The NBA made
a big statement, say you think you're gonna come into
the draft and you're gonna start throwing your weight around here.
As a kid that's never gotten into the never gotten
into the NBA, it's a privilege to play in the NBA.
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It's not a right to play in the NBA. We
are going to make sure about this. And now A's
Bailey doesn't work out for a team and he gets
taken by a team where who knows if he's happy,
who knows if he's good? And now other players are
saying whoa, whoa, whoa that could happen to me, instead
of the other side of it, which is, hey, A's
Bailey was able to maneuver his way to Washington. He
wanted to me, why would you want to go? But
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he wanted to go to Washing Okay Washing, A couple
of the teams were there. Hey, I'm gonna follow that lead.
Now players are saying, whoa, I'm not doing that again,
because this is a guy that was a top three,
top five talent and he got taken by a team
that I don't think he wanted to go there, and
it's a mystery and it's out of his hands. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Maybe Philadelphia would have been better off if I had
not said anything. And I go to be there. I'm
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playing with Tyres Max here Joelle Embiid, and I'm playing
for a heritage team and I can make a lot
more money than whatever it is an endorsement deals. I
that's a better situation for me. I'm going earlier in
the draft. Now players are gonna say, okay, I saw
As Bailey with the power play. He tried it and
he failed. And now the NBA by just this one
fell swoop of yeah, we're still taking you in top five,
A team is still taking you even though we don't
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know if you want to play there. Yeah. I think
that puts an end to all of the strategies, the
a's belly type strategies we're going to see.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Also, I mean, if you're a team, he may still
get where he wants wants to go. Right, We've got
a lot of activity over the next week, but you're
not gonna pass on a guy who's six 's eight
and scores like he does at that point. Either he's
gonna come and play and be part of your squad,
or guess what, he's a great trade chip if you
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see something else in the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
There were some reports to your thinking of Washington, New
Orleans or Brooklyn where three three teams that he was
kind of eager at the back end of the top
ten to potentially join with. So yeah, it's that power
play because we were talking for months, well years in
the background, right, the NFL collusion stuff going back to
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Lamar Jackson and all those things, a lot of handwringing
and some of the stuff being operated in plain sight
that no, nothing to see here, said big here. Players
are always trying to manipulate the system to get what
they want. Here, it was just a little more obvious
of yeah, I'm not even gonna go for the work.
Usually you'd still get on the plane. I mean, look
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at Shadoor. Sanders went on the plane, still took the
trips and what do we keep hearing sabotaging plus his
dad talking and they're right in the NFL process.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You need any more than than what you saw with
A's Bailey, what you saw from Chador Sanders, who deon
Sanders very publicly saying there's teams we don't want him
to go to. Now, if that's the case, you know,
they made it known to Team sure, hey Chador doesn't
want to go there, and they just said, well, okay
blank that we can take somebody else.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
But as i multiple times, they also said, you're not
the guy, right, he's Bailey's a guy that's gonna come
in and get tribut.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Let's say let's.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Say that didn't happen. Let's say he didn't say anything.
There weren't teams that that Chador Sanders didn't want to
go to. Deon Sanders stayed out of it, and it
was just simply Chadour and his pre draft visits and
all of that. Does he get taken early in the
fifth round?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think he does, And I think he gets taken
early enough where he's still an asset and not a curiosity,
because that's what he is in Cleveland right now. And
you're a fifth round pick, you're a curios You're a
curiosity to give you right, but maybe you are maybe
you're also someone that can get cut right. They don't
need to keep the fifth round pick, you know, I
need to keep you, but third round pick, second round pick. Yeah,
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we got to kind of see you extend your chance
of succeeding in the NFL. So now, if you're if
you're looking at the last two drafts, I mean, are
are you gonna do that? If you're a player and
say no, no, I'm holding out for this. If you're
Eli Manning and you're the overall number one overall pick
in the draft and the team has the pick that
you don't want to go there, you can pull that pick.
But when your ace back, Cooper Flagg could have done that.
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Cooper Flag could have said, yeah, I don't want to
go to Doubt, don't take me because I'm not going there,
And then it would have been, oh, what do we do.
Do we trade the pick? Do we take Dylan Harper,
Do we still take Cooper Flagg? Do he take Cooper
Flag and try to trade him. He has that cachet.
Ace Bailey does not, and shod Or Sanders thought he
had the cachet, turned out he didn't. So very few
players can do that. And so if you've seen that
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now in the last three months, we've seen it now
twice where players said, yeah, we're gonna dictate where we go.
Guess what, No, you're not. Oh, well, I'm not doing
that anymore. NFL and NBA patting themselves on the back saying, yeah,
we put we put that conversation to bet.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Put that wall up and uh, paint over it and
it's nice and uh for the next guy to try
to run through it as well. No, but look, Cubrius, agents, parents, family,
your your buddies, whatever, they're still gonna be in your ear.
You're still gonna have guys that we're gonna read about
and hear all of the Hey, they don't want to
go to teams and there's certainly squads you don't want
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to be part of Utah And what have we heard
the last several days. Yeah, Kessler could be a guy
on the move by almost any discernible asset may be
there for the taking.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
So if you're as baile leg what am I walking into?
I could become the guy.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And I understand it. I understand it. But but it's again,
it's a privilege to play in the NBA, not a right.
And the NBA got to say, uh, we have to
look got if we allow players to come in and
pick their teams, we're not gonna have a league. Half
the league is gonna go bankrupt because they're not gonna
get players. Well, no good, they're all gonna go Cooper
Flagg would be a Laker, Dylan Harper would be a
Nick Right, I mean that's kind.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Of how boy.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It would become Survival of the Fittest. There's only so
many roster spots per squad. Hey, do you want to
go make a million and been guy fifteen on the
bench over there?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Hey, no, Cooper Flagg having a big season has the
ninth man? Uh, you know for for the Knicks coming
off the bench, he's he's getting some good minutes there
playing Zion.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah, I would go on a limit and say he's
not playing for the three million dollar or no, the
five point six mid level exemption. He'd be getting at
that point where we're trying to calculate how quickly he
can get to a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
But for Ace Bailey, Yeah, you want to talk about
a guy who really did not look like he was content.
He thought he was gonna get over It goes to
the larger question that that is always swirling in the
background about the The word fair is literally a four
letter word, but in many respects, the draft as a
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quote fair process is one that we're always going to challenge. Yeah,
and certainly players if as a group they decided to
hell think about football next year, if it goes to
play as to plan with arch Manning, now he couldn't
beat out quinn Ewers who got drafted in the seventh
round just to remind folks of how that all worked
out for those that want to build the statue to
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him already, but we may be looking at it next year.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Hey, is he gonna come out?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean, he's a man because he'll always have the
excuse if he decides to go back, just just say, wow,
he's a manning clearly he was always going to go
back for another year versus yeah, I don't want to
go to that team, like he will never have to
verbalize that because he's got the built in surname excuse
of staying for another year of schooling.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But we might be months away from those same conversations now.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And here's why I can tell you about the draft
and why all issue defending the draft. The players want
to go so, okay, I understand again, I understand not
wanting to start your career in a certain place. Okay.
But here's where here's where I win the argument. You
have to understand that the draft is the best way.
The NBA draft, NFL draft, Major League baseball drafts have
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been done this way forever, right, This is this is
how they do it. Teams are the worst records, they
pick at the top. They have the best chance tocceed parody.
It's all good for the league. Right now. You can
poke holes in some of these philosophies. I'm not saying
you can't, and I'm not saying this is subdy. Oh well,
it's always done this way. That's like the worst reason
to do something. I always say that the worst way
to do something to say because we've alway done it
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that way. No, My point is that we've done all
the draft. We've done the draft this way forever, and
there's never been a better idea to change the draft too.
If there was a better idea, then we would have
done it, and the draft would have been changed, would
have been changed to something else, and it would be
a case of oh wow, well now this is fair
to everybody. It's fair to the team's fair to the players.
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It's impossible to do. The draft isn't a perfect situation circumstance.
The draft is perfect. But it's the closest thing we
have to doing to put getting players from college or
outside of college into professional sports. It's the closest. It's
the best version that we have, and sometimes you have
to understand that, Okay, the best thing we can come
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up with is what we have to go with. Right,
if you could come up with something better, great, But
the thing is nobody's come up with anything better. Oh
what if every year a different team gets the number
one overall pick in the draft? Oh so you're saying,
And so if a team stinks, hey, sorry, you're not
getting the first round pick for fifteen more years. Come on, man,
like that's the fair again, that's Jason's fifteen general manager.
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There's bigger holes in every in every other possibility you
want to put in to replace the draft than there
is with the draft.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I want to do it like a silent auction for
fantasy football. You get some extra dollars if you know,
based on training, other draft picks and your salary cap spaces,
or you do it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You do it like free agency in fantasy is what
you're saying. Like the A if you have like one
hundred dollars for your budget, you have to decide how
much you're bidding on these plays, and that's how you go.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
And you have extra cash based on based on the
draft choices that you'd stockpiled, which so O KC would
have more money to spend in our auction because of
past moves.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Instead, as we how much money you bidding on Isaiah
Likely It's boy, can you go thirty five dollars on
Cooper Flag?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well? How can you go?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
How many teams would say, I'm putting all one hundred
dollars on Cooper Flag? Everybody the time we start flipping coin,
here's one hundred bucks on Cooper flags. We can have
Cooper Flegg hundred bucks. All right? Great? I mean again,
find something better, and there's nothing that's better.
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NBA draft. We are nearing the end, Phoenix on the clock.
What do we think so far? Nobody better to talk
to then FS one insider extraordinaire and host of the
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On the Ball podcast. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker.
It is Rick Buker. Rick, Happy Draft night. How are you?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Thank you? I'm not doing as well as Cooper Flag,
but other than that, i'd say I'm doing better than
than Hanson Yang.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, all right, very good. Now we'll get to Flag
in a second. But I'm sorry to spring this on you,
but i really would like your in distant reaction to
an NBA draft pick.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I'm not going to tell you who it is, but
I want your instant reaction, all your basketball acumen, tell
me what you think about this pick. Okay, okay, right,
So here we'll give you the announcement so you can
kind of just understand this, this is the pick, and
tell me what do you think of the selection. The
Portland Trailblazer select Centric Coward from Washington State University.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Coward.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Here, Rick, what what effect will this have on Colin's show?
Will he leave for Portland? You're on that show a lot.
What are you hearing?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, you know, he started his career in Portland, so
it's really not all that surprising that they would pick
him and then immediately trade him to the Memphis Chris
Wait wait wait wait wait what we took?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Who we.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Took a talk show host? Who can we dump them
off on what the Grizzlies don't know what they're doing.
Let's see if they'll go.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, I mean he could do he could do a
show in Memphis in the morning and then play in
the game at night.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Uh, he could very well do that. He is uh,
he is a man of much energy and talent.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Uh. You know.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
The funny thing is Howard would have uh he actually
he saw that he got drafted and uh and then
found out that he got traded and uh, he was
pretty much like he didn't even get the hat. It's uh,
he just gave me an idea. I need to I
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need to bring him. I need to bring him a
Grizzlies hat next time I am along with him. Let
him experience what he missed out on.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I mean just think it was it was right there,
A big sponsor his blazing five NFL picks. The Blazers
blazing five picks and now we can't do that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I will say this, considering the lack of interest in
the Portland Trail Blazers right now, it might have been
the trudest pick that they could have made. Must say,
I must say right now that Colin's ratings are higher
than the Fortland Trail Lazer.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah. Well, hey, if they take Colin and Dan Patrick
back to back, I mean, that's that's a hell of
a backcourt.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And then, of course, you know that is his relationship
with Nick right, Nick Wright would have got him dealt
to the Lakers just no matter, would have taken no
time at all. That would have been a training camp move.
So alas we won't get to see any of that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Well, instead we'll spend most of the time, obviously breaking
down Cooper Flag to the Mavericks at number one. We
knew this was going to happen. Was a faded company.
When I say Cooper Flag. The next couple of years
with him in Dallas, what what do you see on
the landscape for he and the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Well, it really depends on when Kyrie Irving comes back.
Is you know what is he when he gets back
at ls are not a by any means career ending
injury or even career affecting injuries. They're pretty pretty standard
procedure now. But at his age and the way that
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he plays, as dynamic as he is, there's a little
more of a question mark in terms of can he
be the same can he be the same player? And
then can Anthony Davis stay healthy? But if those two factors,
if those if those two things can happen, I look
at the rest of his team, and I look at
Cooper Flag fitting in, and and I think that the
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window there is to be in in the mix in
the Western Conference. If they have all hands on deck,
then I like them as much as anybody going up
against going up against Oklahoma City Thunder or anybody else
in the West. There's some talk about them signing or
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acquiring DeAngelo Russell to be a placeholder or you know,
fill the gap while while Kyrie is out. I I
think that would be a decent move, depending on what
the number is. So I think it's I'm really excited
to see this because it's very rare that we get
a number one pick, but we know can play, you
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know what level he's going to play, But he's going
to be a good player, and I would expect that
he's going to be in the league for a long time.
He could be a special player, and it's very rare
that we get to see that kind of player go
to a team that is already in the playoff mix
when healthy, and I would put the Dallas Mavericks inspite
of what happened this year when healthy, in that mix.
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So I'm really excited to see what happens. I'm very
optimistic that Dallas Mavericks are going to make some noise
this year.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Now we have another player with we've got expectations he
can play, but he didn't expect to go play there.
That's Ace Bayley after a very strange route to the
draft night, not a guy who looked really excited about
going to Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Rick. Yeah, I'm one of the reasons I was told
that he didn't work out is because the workout also
include interviews meeting with people, and that they were they
feared that he was not going to do well in
those interviews, and so that's why they evaded them. I
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was told that the Wizard he had a secret workout
with the Wizards. That's really where he wanted to go.
I think that's been reported, But what concerns me is
that he's already thinking that he's got you know, he's
ready to take on Giannisante to compo, and his measurements
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were less than what was expected. And I'm just I'm
getting Kim Reddish vibes in terms of a guy who
has has the entire package physically and is a shot maker,
but is he going to have the discipline and the
work to do the little things and become more of
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an efficient player. That was the big knock on him
is that he can make almost any shot, but he
also is capable of taking almost any shot, regardless of
whether it's the right shot to take or not. So
you know, how that plays in Utah remains to be seen.
But I don't you know, in this day and age,
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we got a lot of guys who come in and
to come in and they're very confident. I'm all for confidence,
but when you're talking about you know, I got something
to show a guy who's already been a league MVP
and is a champion, I would I feel better about
a guy coming in as young as as Bailey is
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with just you know, an ounce or two of humility
in terms of, hey, I just want to get there
and I want to prove that I'm I'm an NBA player.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Rutger's not being any good in the NC double A
should have been clue to that.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Rick, Yeah, yeah, yeah, well and I you know, and
there Ben Simmons vibes because he didn't even get there,
you know, at LSU and and obviously was was a
top pick. So yeah, I think there's you know, this
is always the struggle is you see guys who have
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the requisite physical ability to be special in the NBA.
But my feeling is, uh, I want guys who have
demonstrated that they can win. And like Markel Folks, same thing.
You know was was was looked at as a great
individual player, had all of the measurements, but what did
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he do? And uh, at the at the college level,
not a whole lot. I'm I'm I'm very suspicious of
guys like that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Rick Buker, our guest Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, well, I want
to say the streak ends today the first time in
four days the Celtics have not traded one of their
high profile players. First it was Drew Holliday, then it's
Christaps Porzingis. What do you make of what you have
seen and what we could see from the Celtics so far.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well, I think financially that look, we knew that we're
going to move some some guys and try to get
some cap reliefs. They were looking at a price tag
of like five hundred million dollars with the luxury tax
and everything else, so there was it's not a surprise
that they moved guys. I just wonder how how much
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Jason Tatum being injured and being out next year influenced
what they went to get, because as I look at it,
you've got Anthony Simon's and George Niang, if I'm not mistaken,
both are on expiring contract after this next season. And
it feels to me like they went and got guys
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that they know we're going to be able to play
that that because they need to feel the team and
without Jason Tatum and even Drew Holiday and Christophsporzingis, you know,
had health issues. You didn't know how many games they
were going to be able to play. I just wonder
how aggressive they were in doing that. I don't buy
into the rumors that you know, Jalen Brown might be
(25:15):
out there too. I don't think this is a complete
teardown by any means, but you know, you heard you
heard Josh Cronki make the crazy comment about, uh, you know, god,
I hope you don't have to trade Nikola Yoki, which
is like, you know what, you don't. I know you
don't want to, So just don't say that, you like
could have those words come out of your mouth. But
(25:38):
the reason that he said it is I think because
with the current salary cap system, the Boston Celtics and
to a certain extent, the Phoenix Suns are top of
mind where you're you're literally forced to trade guys because
you've signed multiple guys Jaling Brown and Jason Tatum to
(26:03):
supermax or max contracts, and you're suddenly faced with the posit,
you know, like, oh, we we have to trade guys
like ten cents on the dollar just so that we
don't pay, you know, half a billion dollars. And so
I think that's what he was he was saying, And
basically it's a very crounky thing to say. It's like,
(26:24):
we was just going to warn you guys, we're not
going to be spending any money, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
But instead he didn't say all that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
He just said basically, one bed, one guy gets hurt
and we have to trade. Like that's one guy gets hurt.
We got to trade him.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
One guy that we pay just a little bit too
much money and he gets injured and all hell is
going to break loose here. So uh, just letting the
entire roster know. Hey, guys, there there will be no
bonuses in your check is here?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Okay, don't don't put in the swimming pool. Griswold, last
one for you, Rick, Kevin Durant. Timing of the trade announcement,
fanatics fest and all that fun ahead of games, even
of the finals, and what's his impact there in the
planet Houston, Well.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
He knew, he knew he was going. I don't think
it was a prize. I mean that's where he wanted
to go. I think the timing of it may have
you know, the didn't know is going down. While he
would be on stage being interviewed that said, look, I
like I like the move. Houston didn't have to give
up a whole lot. I don't think Jalen Green and
(27:34):
Dylan Brooks, I don't think Phoenix is their last stop.
I think it was basically a you know, a first
round pick and two guys that we can potentially move
for a first round pick somewhere down the line. The
teams that are, you know, either poised to add a
guy to bolster their playoff chances or whatever it may be.
I think both of those guys have that potential and
(27:55):
or or market value. And then for for Kevin one,
he's exactly what they need. So that's the plus in
terms of a go to closer. They already have an
established culture and floor leader with Fred van Vliet and
Emai Odoka. They have some really young talent and they
(28:15):
can defend at a high level. So I like it.
I'm not you know, there's people out there that have
them as title contenders. I could see where they're.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
The question is.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Going to be where are they going to be seated?
Because while they were the number two team in the West,
they were sixteen games behind the number one seed, and
they were only four games ahead of the number eighteam,
the Memphis Grizzly. So losing Dalen Green and Dylan Brooks,
I could see that impacting them in the regular season.
While Kevin makes them a more dangerous playoff team. So
(28:52):
the question is going to be exactly where are they
seated and who do they have to face when? As
far as how far they go, I would fully expect
to get past the first round, but do I have
them as title contenders? I can't quite go that far.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick
Buker Fox Sports One. Check out the on the Ball podcast,
in which he now breaks down the Blazers chances in
the West with brand new shooting guard Colin Coward. In
the fold the trade to Memphis? What that meant? What
it would have been?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I just got noticed the Knicks are interested in trading
with the Blazers for who for? Oh, he may be
on the move again.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Take it easy, Rick, We'll talk to you next week.
Have fun, buddy, powered yo.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
There you go.
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Speaker 4 (30:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Is it really?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
No?
Speaker 7 (30:17):
This is the doc Rivers game.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Actually, all the all the three one leads doc Rivers
is blown? Is that what it is?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
We don't have enough time here?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh okay, all right, very good.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
This is the doc Rivers to the next game. You ready.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
No one gives me credit for getting those three wins.
I may not cut that fourth one, but no one
gives me credit for those three.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
If you can name the next head coach of the Knicks, schmackschmivers.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
A right, all right, so what's the what's your what's
our NBA trivia game? Here? Frostburg?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
What do you got? I just told you it's the
Doc Rivers game. Is this not believable?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Is he answered? Doc Rivers?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
You tell me Doc Rivers is not going to be
coaching the Knicks? What's that he will not be?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I don't know the guy that you wanted. They're went
back to interviewing more people.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, well yeah, they had to hanging on Doc Rivers.
Hang on, let me just see Froxburgh didn't see something
wow on social media?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Doc Rivers.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay? Oh oh oh, come on man, how how was
the first line of Doctor's Wikipedia scared the crap out?
Of me, It says Doc Ruse Wikipedia, as a result
of the Celtics one nine ninety three victory over the
New York Knicks. Blah blah blah. And I'm looking at going.
I just saw Doc Rivers Knicks and I go, what
the hell? I'm like, how is that the first line
in the Wikipedia page? It's happening something from two thousand
(31:38):
and eight. Come on, man, that scared me.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well that's the highlight of his run, heh joy.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, all right, all right, what do we have
for real?
Speaker 7 (31:49):
What do you have?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
For real?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
The Duke Blue Devils have produced six top number one
NBA draft picks. Can you name them all?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Okay? Number one mentioned Elton.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Brand, Elton Brand, and Zion oh easy, Cooper flag. All right,
very good.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
So that's three full what Elton Brand? Because Monty's listening.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, oh no, no, no, yeah, well you know Elton Brand,
broke Monzi, Yeah, Chandler.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Remember this is.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Number one overall in my in my best Rick Patino,
Layton number one was third. There he was the shack here,
we're three. That's right, he was shocked. That's right, that's right. Uh, okay,
so we got three number one. Oh grant Hill. You
are incorrect. Wow, not grand Hill was number three overall?
(32:39):
Oh wow, okay, yeah, how do you forget Zion? I
said Zion first three? We said, well, Cooper Flag, Zion
and Elton Brandt. No, we had the first three.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I think you said I said.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Zion was the first thing. No, it was the first
thing I said was flaggons Ion. First thing I said
was flagging z Iion. It was the first time I
got Elton and we had Elton. Okay, well, you guys
are halfway there, and Harmon's got a candle in the
wind with Elton. Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Jason Williams, oh, Jay.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Back when he was Jay Williams. Jay Williams, you are incorrect.
Oh boy, okay, uh number one pick? We got three
game I'm missing three. No, this is good, this is.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Stop.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Just get right now.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Oh yeah, I'll prove it right now, like I don't
have all the answers in front of me. Uh. Kyrie,
So that's his.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Sport's acumen has really gone up a really smart now,
like he's following the games, he's really understanding.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, all right, Hey, where where did Kyrie play? Tight shirt?
What where did you play basketball?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Kyrie?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
In college. Well, he plays for Mavericks now, right, but
he played for Duke.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
That's what the game is about.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Did justin? Just whisper Duke to you're playing the game
with you? Okay, all right, I didn't know if you
knew the name of the game, just making sure, all right.
I think so. I think somebody told t.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Were he played.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't know whatever game we played, I got it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Something like more Kyrie. Okay, where else are we going?
Where else are we going? Duke? Did I miss? I'm
going through the nineties now, I'm trying to go through
later into the nine You are really bad at this
game into the two thousands.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
So the number one overall picks is there from back
in the day, oh like before?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh like no.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Because like the hard part now is remembering whether a
guy actually went to college for a year before.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh yes, of course, Paula Montcarrol.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
No, let tyshirt end it?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh go ahead, ty shirt, Jason.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I'm actually ashamed of you.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
This is from the Knicks, by the way.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Okay, I'm gonna go back to nineteen sixty three. That
was before my Knicks fan art Hayman. Oh Man, that's right.
Art Hayman. Yeah, Steve, and then he became an MLB
Insider RBI for fan Rag. You guys lost to ty
shirt Art Haman, Yeah, I remember ty shirts. Such a
gonna take the Art Hayman fan. He's a huge Duke fan.
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
So here we are. NBA Draft going as predicted with
Cooper flag going number one overall to the Mavericks. That's great,
and we talked about it last hour, and we'll have
more on Cooper Flagg coming up at about twenty minutes
with Rick Buker, who's gonna stop by with us because
now you know we're gonna have trades coming up soon.
All kinds of crazy stuff. But uh, two big hot
(01:24):
takes from what we've seen so far in the NBA draft,
and the first one is this. The other story that
really gained a lot of attention over the course of
the past few days was around Ace Bailey, right Rutgers Starr,
who famously didn't want to work out for the seventy
six ers. They were picking third overall, and Bailey looked
(01:46):
all off season it was been w Acet, Bailey's gonna
go third, right, this is how it's gonna go. It's
gonna go Flag and Harper and Bailey, that's how it's
gonna go. But didn't want to work out for the Sixers,
didn't work out for anybody, didn't work out for anybody
right though, And you saw the narrow he wanted to
control where he got drafted.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That doesn't sound familiar at all.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You heard you heard many stories from different insiders. He
doesn't want to go to New Orleans, doesn't want to
go to Utah, doesn't want to go here, doesn't want
to go here, maybe wanted to go to Washington and
kept it very close to the vest. And I'm sure
that there was a lot of feelers put out by
he and his team about hey, hey, we're okay going here,
okay going here? And I get it. I get it
(02:25):
because I get players saying if I start in New Orleans,
what's my career? I just watched Zion's career in New
Orleans and people still don't even know where the hell
if he's still in the league, right, So I I
fact that he is playing doesn't help. But I understand
players wanting to control the narrative. That's why tonight this
was such a huge story coming into tonight because one
(02:48):
of two things was going to happen. Because in the
NIL era now, players have a little more cachet, a
little more leverage, because hey, I'm okay with slipping in
the draft because I'm some money already, right, I'm okay,
I have the last couple of years of last year,
whatever it is, I made some NIL money in the
millions of dollars. So I'm okay, I'm autright for right now.
So if I if I go eighth to a team
(03:11):
that I really want to go to instead of going third,
I'm alright with that. I'm okay with that because I
have some money here. I have some blank you money, right,
I don't want to go here. So this was huge
because if Ace Bailey fell through the draft to a
team where he really wanted to go, and you know
he didn't want to go to Utah because he didn't
smile at all when he got picked, well, I.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Mean some guys don't smile regardless.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
If he had gotten to where he wanted to get too,
he would not be the last player that's going to say,
oh now I can take control of my draft future
and my NBA future. I'm not going to meet with anybody.
I'm not going to work out for people. I'm going
to make sure that different teams know don't draft me
because I don't want to go there, and I'm going
to get to pick my destiny. This would have changed
(03:56):
the draft forever because so many players out because the
end and these are all players that made money in
college coming in saying hey, I can do this now,
I have much more cachet, and the NBA draft than
five years would be different than we've ever known it. Right,
it wouldn't be the same thing. They'd be fumbling for answers.
How do we have a draft or all the top
players they all want to go play for the Lakers
(04:16):
or the Knicks, or the or the Warriors. None of
them want to go play for the Pelicans or the
Sacramento King Right. The NBA draft in five years be
completely different. But that gets absolutely shut down because the
Jazz take Ace Bailey and this is the NBA and
the Jazz saying you're not gonna dictate where you go. Now,
I'm not saying the NBA leaned on the Jazz at all,
(04:38):
but if he fell through the draft, you would say, okay,
this opens the door to that. But this was the NBA,
specifically Jazz, saying, uh, yeah, you don't get to pick
where you're going right, right or wrong. The NBA made
a big statement, say you think you're gonna come into
the draft and you're gonna start throwing your weight around here.
As a kid that's never gotten into the never gotten
into the NBA, it's a privilege to play in the NBA.
(04:59):
It's not a right to play in the NBA. We
are going to make sure about this. And now A's
Bailey doesn't work out for a team and he gets
taken by a team where who knows if he's happy,
who knows if he's good? And now other players are
saying whoa, whoa, whoa that could happen to me, instead
of the other side of it, which is, hey, A's
Bailey was able to maneuver his way to Washington. He
wanted to me, why would you want to go? But
(05:20):
he wanted to go to Washing Okay Washing, A couple
of the teams were there. Hey, I'm gonna follow that lead.
Now players are saying, whoa, I'm not doing that again,
because this is a guy that was a top three,
top five talent and he got taken by a team
that I don't think he wanted to go there, and
it's a mystery and it's out of his hands. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Maybe Philadelphia would have been better off if I had
not said anything. And I go to be there. I'm
(05:41):
playing with Tyres Max here Joelle Embiid, and I'm playing
for a heritage team and I can make a lot
more money than whatever it is an endorsement deals. I
that's a better situation for me. I'm going earlier in
the draft. Now players are gonna say, okay, I saw
As Bailey with the power play. He tried it and
he failed. And now the NBA by just this one
fell swoop of yeah, we're still taking you in top five,
A team is still taking you even though we don't
(06:02):
know if you want to play there. Yeah. I think
that puts an end to all of the strategies, the
a's belly type strategies we're going to see.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Also, I mean, if you're a team, he may still
get where he wants wants to go. Right, We've got
a lot of activity over the next week, but you're
not gonna pass on a guy who's six 's eight
and scores like he does at that point. Either he's
gonna come and play and be part of your squad,
or guess what, he's a great trade chip if you
(06:29):
see something else in the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
There were some reports to your thinking of Washington, New
Orleans or Brooklyn where three three teams that he was
kind of eager at the back end of the top
ten to potentially join with. So yeah, it's that power
play because we were talking for months, well years in
the background, right, the NFL collusion stuff going back to
(06:51):
Lamar Jackson and all those things, a lot of handwringing
and some of the stuff being operated in plain sight
that no, nothing to see here, said big here. Players
are always trying to manipulate the system to get what
they want. Here, it was just a little more obvious
of yeah, I'm not even gonna go for the work.
Usually you'd still get on the plane. I mean, look
(07:12):
at Shadoor. Sanders went on the plane, still took the
trips and what do we keep hearing sabotaging plus his
dad talking and they're right in the NFL process.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You need any more than than what you saw with
A's Bailey, what you saw from Chador Sanders, who deon
Sanders very publicly saying there's teams we don't want him
to go to. Now, if that's the case, you know,
they made it known to Team sure, hey Chador doesn't
want to go there, and they just said, well, okay
blank that we can take somebody else.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
But as i multiple times, they also said, you're not
the guy, right, he's Bailey's a guy that's gonna come
in and get tribut.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Let's say let's.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Say that didn't happen. Let's say he didn't say anything.
There weren't teams that that Chador Sanders didn't want to
go to. Deon Sanders stayed out of it, and it
was just simply Chadour and his pre draft visits and
all of that. Does he get taken early in the
fifth round?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I think he does, And I think he gets taken
early enough where he's still an asset and not a curiosity,
because that's what he is in Cleveland right now. And
you're a fifth round pick, you're a curios You're a
curiosity to give you right, but maybe you are maybe
you're also someone that can get cut right. They don't
need to keep the fifth round pick, you know, I
need to keep you, but third round pick, second round pick. Yeah,
(08:20):
we got to kind of see you extend your chance
of succeeding in the NFL. So now, if you're if
you're looking at the last two drafts, I mean, are
are you gonna do that? If you're a player and
say no, no, I'm holding out for this. If you're
Eli Manning and you're the overall number one overall pick
in the draft and the team has the pick that
you don't want to go there, you can pull that pick.
But when your ace back, Cooper Flagg could have done that.
(08:41):
Cooper Flag could have said, yeah, I don't want to
go to Doubt, don't take me because I'm not going there,
And then it would have been, oh, what do we do.
Do we trade the pick? Do we take Dylan Harper,
Do we still take Cooper Flagg? Do he take Cooper
Flag and try to trade him. He has that cachet.
Ace Bailey does not, and shod Or Sanders thought he
had the cachet, turned out he didn't. So very few
players can do that. And so if you've seen that
(09:04):
now in the last three months, we've seen it now
twice where players said, yeah, we're gonna dictate where we go.
Guess what, No, you're not. Oh, well, I'm not doing
that anymore. NFL and NBA patting themselves on the back saying, yeah,
we put we put that conversation to bet.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Put that wall up and uh, paint over it and
it's nice and uh for the next guy to try
to run through it as well. No, but look, Cubrius, agents, parents, family,
your your buddies, whatever, they're still gonna be in your ear.
You're still gonna have guys that we're gonna read about
and hear all of the Hey, they don't want to
go to teams and there's certainly squads you don't want
(09:39):
to be part of Utah And what have we heard
the last several days. Yeah, Kessler could be a guy
on the move by almost any discernible asset may be
there for the taking.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
So if you're as baile leg what am I walking into?
I could become the guy.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And I understand it. I understand it. But but it's again,
it's a privilege to play in the NBA, not a right.
And the NBA got to say, uh, we have to
look got if we allow players to come in and
pick their teams, we're not gonna have a league. Half
the league is gonna go bankrupt because they're not gonna
get players. Well, no good, they're all gonna go Cooper
Flagg would be a Laker, Dylan Harper would be a
Nick Right, I mean that's kind.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Of how boy.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It would become Survival of the Fittest. There's only so
many roster spots per squad. Hey, do you want to
go make a million and been guy fifteen on the
bench over there?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Hey, no, Cooper Flagg having a big season has the
ninth man? Uh, you know for for the Knicks coming
off the bench, he's he's getting some good minutes there
playing Zion.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah, I would go on a limit and say he's
not playing for the three million dollar or no, the
five point six mid level exemption. He'd be getting at
that point where we're trying to calculate how quickly he
can get to a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
But for Ace Bailey, Yeah, you want to talk about
a guy who really did not look like he was content.
He thought he was gonna get over It goes to
the larger question that that is always swirling in the
background about the The word fair is literally a four
letter word, but in many respects, the draft as a
(11:08):
quote fair process is one that we're always going to challenge. Yeah,
and certainly players if as a group they decided to
hell think about football next year, if it goes to
play as to plan with arch Manning, now he couldn't
beat out quinn Ewers who got drafted in the seventh
round just to remind folks of how that all worked
out for those that want to build the statue to
(11:30):
him already, but we may be looking at it next year.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Hey, is he gonna come out?
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I mean, he's a man because he'll always have the
excuse if he decides to go back, just just say, wow,
he's a manning clearly he was always going to go
back for another year versus yeah, I don't want to
go to that team, like he will never have to
verbalize that because he's got the built in surname excuse
of staying for another year of schooling.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But we might be months away from those same conversations now.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
And here's why I can tell you about the draft
and why all issue defending the draft. The players want
to go so, okay, I understand again, I understand not
wanting to start your career in a certain place. Okay.
But here's where here's where I win the argument. You
have to understand that the draft is the best way.
The NBA draft, NFL draft, Major League baseball drafts have
(12:17):
been done this way forever, right, This is this is
how they do it. Teams are the worst records, they
pick at the top. They have the best chance tocceed parody.
It's all good for the league. Right now. You can
poke holes in some of these philosophies. I'm not saying
you can't, and I'm not saying this is subdy. Oh well,
it's always done this way. That's like the worst reason
to do something. I always say that the worst way
to do something to say because we've alway done it
(12:38):
that way. No, My point is that we've done all
the draft. We've done the draft this way forever, and
there's never been a better idea to change the draft too.
If there was a better idea, then we would have
done it, and the draft would have been changed, would
have been changed to something else, and it would be
a case of oh wow, well now this is fair
to everybody. It's fair to the team's fair to the players.
(12:59):
It's impossible to do. The draft isn't a perfect situation circumstance.
The draft is perfect. But it's the closest thing we
have to doing to put getting players from college or
outside of college into professional sports. It's the closest. It's
the best version that we have, and sometimes you have
to understand that, Okay, the best thing we can come
(13:20):
up with is what we have to go with. Right,
if you could come up with something better, great, But
the thing is nobody's come up with anything better. Oh
what if every year a different team gets the number
one overall pick in the draft? Oh so you're saying,
And so if a team stinks, hey, sorry, you're not
getting the first round pick for fifteen more years. Come on, man,
like that's the fair again, that's Jason's fifteen general manager.
(13:42):
There's bigger holes in every in every other possibility you
want to put in to replace the draft than there
is with the draft.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
I want to do it like a silent auction for
fantasy football. You get some extra dollars if you know,
based on training, other draft picks and your salary cap spaces,
or you do it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You do it like free agency in fantasy is what
you're saying. Like the A if you have like one
hundred dollars for your budget, you have to decide how
much you're bidding on these plays, and that's how you go.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
And you have extra cash based on based on the
draft choices that you'd stockpiled, which so O KC would
have more money to spend in our auction because of
past moves.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Instead, as we how much money you bidding on Isaiah
Likely It's boy, can you go thirty five dollars on
Cooper Flag?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well? How can you go?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
How many teams would say, I'm putting all one hundred
dollars on Cooper Flag? Everybody the time we start flipping coin,
here's one hundred bucks on Cooper flags. We can have
Cooper Flegg hundred bucks. All right? Great? I mean again,
find something better, and there's nothing that's better.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
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NBA draft. We are nearing the end, Phoenix on the clock.
What do we think so far? Nobody better to talk
to then FS one insider extraordinaire and host of the
(15:37):
On the Ball podcast. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker.
It is Rick Buker. Rick, Happy Draft night. How are you?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Thank you? I'm not doing as well as Cooper Flag,
but other than that, i'd say I'm doing better than
than Hanson Yang.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, all right, very good. Now we'll get to Flag
in a second. But I'm sorry to spring this on you,
but i really would like your in distant reaction to
an NBA draft pick.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I'm not going to tell you who it is, but
I want your instant reaction, all your basketball acumen, tell
me what you think about this pick. Okay, okay, right,
So here we'll give you the announcement so you can
kind of just understand this, this is the pick, and
tell me what do you think of the selection. The
Portland Trailblazer select Centric Coward from Washington State University.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So the Portland Trailblazers select Colin Coward.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Here, Rick, what what effect will this have on Colin's show?
Will he leave for Portland? You're on that show a lot.
What are you hearing?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, you know, he started his career in Portland, so
it's really not all that surprising that they would pick
him and then immediately trade him to the Memphis Chris
Wait wait wait wait wait what we took?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Who we.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Took a talk show host? Who can we dump them
off on what the Grizzlies don't know what they're doing.
Let's see if they'll go.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, I mean he could do he could do a
show in Memphis in the morning and then play in
the game at night.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Uh, he could very well do that. He is uh,
he is a man of much energy and talent.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Uh. You know.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
The funny thing is Howard would have uh he actually
he saw that he got drafted and uh and then
found out that he got traded and uh, he was
pretty much like he didn't even get the hat. It's uh,
he just gave me an idea. I need to I
(17:37):
need to bring him. I need to bring him a
Grizzlies hat next time I am along with him. Let
him experience what he missed out on.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I mean just think it was it was right there,
A big sponsor his blazing five NFL picks. The Blazers
blazing five picks and now we can't do that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I will say this, considering the lack of interest in
the Portland Trail Blazers right now, it might have been
the trudest pick that they could have made. Must say,
I must say right now that Colin's ratings are higher
than the Fortland Trail Lazer.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah. Well, hey, if they take Colin and Dan Patrick
back to back, I mean, that's that's a hell of
a backcourt.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And then, of course, you know that is his relationship
with Nick right, Nick Wright would have got him dealt
to the Lakers just no matter, would have taken no
time at all. That would have been a training camp move.
So alas we won't get to see any of that,
all right.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Well, instead we'll spend most of the time, obviously breaking
down Cooper Flag to the Mavericks at number one. We
knew this was going to happen. Was a faded company.
When I say Cooper Flag. The next couple of years
with him in Dallas, what what do you see on
the landscape for he and the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Well, it really depends on when Kyrie Irving comes back.
Is you know what is he when he gets back
at ls are not a by any means career ending
injury or even career affecting injuries. They're pretty pretty standard
procedure now. But at his age and the way that
(19:10):
he plays, as dynamic as he is, there's a little
more of a question mark in terms of can he
be the same can he be the same player? And
then can Anthony Davis stay healthy? But if those two factors,
if those if those two things can happen, I look
at the rest of his team, and I look at
Cooper Flag fitting in, and and I think that the
(19:31):
window there is to be in in the mix in
the Western Conference. If they have all hands on deck,
then I like them as much as anybody going up
against going up against Oklahoma City Thunder or anybody else
in the West. There's some talk about them signing or
(19:51):
acquiring DeAngelo Russell to be a placeholder or you know,
fill the gap while while Kyrie is out. I I
think that would be a decent move, depending on what
the number is. So I think it's I'm really excited
to see this because it's very rare that we get
a number one pick, but we know can play, you
(20:15):
know what level he's going to play, But he's going
to be a good player, and I would expect that
he's going to be in the league for a long time.
He could be a special player, and it's very rare
that we get to see that kind of player go
to a team that is already in the playoff mix
when healthy, and I would put the Dallas Mavericks inspite
of what happened this year when healthy, in that mix.
(20:37):
So I'm really excited to see what happens. I'm very
optimistic that Dallas Mavericks are going to make some noise
this year.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Now we have another player with we've got expectations he
can play, but he didn't expect to go play there.
That's Ace Bayley after a very strange route to the
draft night, not a guy who looked really excited about
going to Utah.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Rick. Yeah, I'm one of the reasons I was told
that he didn't work out is because the workout also
include interviews meeting with people, and that they were they
feared that he was not going to do well in
those interviews, and so that's why they evaded them. I
(21:18):
was told that the Wizard he had a secret workout
with the Wizards. That's really where he wanted to go.
I think that's been reported, But what concerns me is
that he's already thinking that he's got you know, he's
ready to take on Giannisante to compo, and his measurements
(21:39):
were less than what was expected. And I'm just I'm
getting Kim Reddish vibes in terms of a guy who
has has the entire package physically and is a shot maker,
but is he going to have the discipline and the
work to do the little things and become more of
(22:00):
an efficient player. That was the big knock on him
is that he can make almost any shot, but he
also is capable of taking almost any shot, regardless of
whether it's the right shot to take or not. So
you know, how that plays in Utah remains to be seen.
But I don't you know, in this day and age,
(22:23):
we got a lot of guys who come in and
to come in and they're very confident. I'm all for confidence,
but when you're talking about you know, I got something
to show a guy who's already been a league MVP
and is a champion, I would I feel better about
a guy coming in as young as as Bailey is
(22:45):
with just you know, an ounce or two of humility
in terms of, hey, I just want to get there
and I want to prove that I'm I'm an NBA player.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Rutger's not being any good in the NC double A
should have been clue to that.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Rick, Yeah, yeah, yeah, well and I you know, and
there Ben Simmons vibes because he didn't even get there,
you know, at LSU and and obviously was was a
top pick. So yeah, I think there's you know, this
is always the struggle is you see guys who have
(23:18):
the requisite physical ability to be special in the NBA.
But my feeling is, uh, I want guys who have
demonstrated that they can win. And like Markel Folks, same thing.
You know was was was looked at as a great
individual player, had all of the measurements, but what did
(23:40):
he do? And uh, at the at the college level,
not a whole lot. I'm I'm I'm very suspicious of
guys like that.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Rick Buker, our guest Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, well, I want
to say the streak ends today the first time in
four days the Celtics have not traded one of their
high profile players. First it was Drew Holliday, then it's
Christaps Porzingis. What do you make of what you have
seen and what we could see from the Celtics so far.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Well, I think financially that look, we knew that we're
going to move some some guys and try to get
some cap reliefs. They were looking at a price tag
of like five hundred million dollars with the luxury tax
and everything else, so there was it's not a surprise
that they moved guys. I just wonder how how much
(24:30):
Jason Tatum being injured and being out next year influenced
what they went to get, because as I look at it,
you've got Anthony Simon's and George Niang, if I'm not mistaken,
both are on expiring contract after this next season. And
it feels to me like they went and got guys
(24:53):
that they know we're going to be able to play
that that because they need to feel the team and
without Jason Tatum and even Drew Holiday and Christophsporzingis, you know,
had health issues. You didn't know how many games they
were going to be able to play. I just wonder
how aggressive they were in doing that. I don't buy
into the rumors that you know, Jalen Brown might be
(25:15):
out there too. I don't think this is a complete
teardown by any means, but you know, you heard you
heard Josh Cronki make the crazy comment about, uh, you know, god,
I hope you don't have to trade Nikola Yoki, which
is like, you know what, you don't. I know you
don't want to, So just don't say that, you like
could have those words come out of your mouth. But
(25:38):
the reason that he said it is I think because
with the current salary cap system, the Boston Celtics and
to a certain extent, the Phoenix Suns are top of
mind where you're you're literally forced to trade guys because
you've signed multiple guys Jaling Brown and Jason Tatum to
(26:03):
supermax or max contracts, and you're suddenly faced with the posit,
you know, like, oh, we we have to trade guys
like ten cents on the dollar just so that we
don't pay, you know, half a billion dollars. And so
I think that's what he was he was saying, And
basically it's a very crounky thing to say. It's like,
(26:24):
we was just going to warn you guys, we're not
going to be spending any money, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
But instead he didn't say all that.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
He just said basically, one bed, one guy gets hurt
and we have to trade. Like that's one guy gets hurt.
We got to trade him.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
One guy that we pay just a little bit too
much money and he gets injured and all hell is
going to break loose here. So uh, just letting the
entire roster know. Hey, guys, there there will be no
bonuses in your check is here?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Okay, don't don't put in the swimming pool. Griswold, last
one for you, Rick, Kevin Durant. Timing of the trade announcement,
fanatics fest and all that fun ahead of games, even
of the finals, and what's his impact there in the
planet Houston, Well.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
He knew, he knew he was going. I don't think
it was a prize. I mean that's where he wanted
to go. I think the timing of it may have
you know, the didn't know is going down. While he
would be on stage being interviewed that said, look, I
like I like the move. Houston didn't have to give
up a whole lot. I don't think Jalen Green and
(27:34):
Dylan Brooks, I don't think Phoenix is their last stop.
I think it was basically a you know, a first
round pick and two guys that we can potentially move
for a first round pick somewhere down the line. The
teams that are, you know, either poised to add a
guy to bolster their playoff chances or whatever it may be.
I think both of those guys have that potential and
(27:55):
or or market value. And then for for Kevin one,
he's exactly what they need. So that's the plus in
terms of a go to closer. They already have an
established culture and floor leader with Fred van Vliet and
Emai Odoka. They have some really young talent and they
(28:15):
can defend at a high level. So I like it.
I'm not you know, there's people out there that have
them as title contenders. I could see where they're.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
The question is.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Going to be where are they going to be seated?
Because while they were the number two team in the West,
they were sixteen games behind the number one seed, and
they were only four games ahead of the number eighteam,
the Memphis Grizzly. So losing Dalen Green and Dylan Brooks,
I could see that impacting them in the regular season.
While Kevin makes them a more dangerous playoff team. So
(28:52):
the question is going to be exactly where are they
seated and who do they have to face when? As
far as how far they go, I would fully expect
to get past the first round, but do I have
them as title contenders? I can't quite go that far.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick
Buker Fox Sports One. Check out the on the Ball podcast,
in which he now breaks down the Blazers chances in
the West with brand new shooting guard Colin Coward. In
the fold the trade to Memphis? What that meant? What
it would have been?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I just got noticed the Knicks are interested in trading
with the Blazers for who for? Oh, he may be
on the move again.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Take it easy, Rick, We'll talk to you next week.
Have fun, buddy, powered yo.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (29:59):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. First round of the NBA Draft is over, yay,
And to celebrate, Justin Frofsberg has something for us.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Is it really?
Speaker 2 (30:17):
No?
Speaker 7 (30:17):
This is the doc Rivers game.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Actually, all the all the three one leads doc Rivers
is blown? Is that what it is?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
We don't have enough time here?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh okay, all right, very good.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
This is the doc Rivers to the next game. You ready.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
No one gives me credit for getting those three wins.
I may not cut that fourth one, but no one
gives me credit for those three.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
If you can name the next head coach of the Knicks, schmackschmivers.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
A right, all right, so what's the what's your what's
our NBA trivia game? Here? Frostburg?
Speaker 7 (30:44):
What do you got? I just told you it's the
Doc Rivers game. Is this not believable?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Is he answered? Doc Rivers?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
You tell me Doc Rivers is not going to be
coaching the Knicks? What's that he will not be?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I don't know the guy that you wanted. They're went
back to interviewing more people.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, well yeah, they had to hanging on Doc Rivers.
Hang on, let me just see Froxburgh didn't see something
wow on social media?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Doc Rivers.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Okay? Oh oh oh, come on man, how how was
the first line of Doctor's Wikipedia scared the crap out?
Of me, It says Doc Ruse Wikipedia, as a result
of the Celtics one nine ninety three victory over the
New York Knicks. Blah blah blah. And I'm looking at going.
I just saw Doc Rivers Knicks and I go, what
the hell? I'm like, how is that the first line
in the Wikipedia page? It's happening something from two thousand
(31:38):
and eight. Come on, man, that scared me.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well that's the highlight of his run, heh joy.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
All right, all right, all right, what do we have
for real?
Speaker 7 (31:49):
What do you have?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
For real?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
The Duke Blue Devils have produced six top number one
NBA draft picks. Can you name them all?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Okay? Number one mentioned Elton.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Brand, Elton Brand, and Zion oh easy, Cooper flag. All right,
very good.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
So that's three full what Elton Brand? Because Monty's listening.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, oh no, no, no, yeah, well you know Elton Brand,
broke Monzi, Yeah, Chandler.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Remember this is.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Number one overall in my in my best Rick Patino,
Layton number one was third. There he was the shack here,
we're three. That's right, he was shocked. That's right, that's right. Uh, okay,
so we got three number one. Oh grant Hill. You
are incorrect. Wow, not grand Hill was number three overall?
(32:39):
Oh wow, okay, yeah, how do you forget Zion? I
said Zion first three? We said, well, Cooper Flag, Zion
and Elton Brandt. No, we had the first three.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I think you said I said.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Zion was the first thing. No, it was the first
thing I said was flaggons Ion. First thing I said
was flagging z Iion. It was the first time I
got Elton and we had Elton. Okay, well, you guys
are halfway there, and Harmon's got a candle in the
wind with Elton. Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Jason Williams, oh, Jay.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Back when he was Jay Williams. Jay Williams, you are incorrect.
Oh boy, okay, uh number one pick? We got three
game I'm missing three. No, this is good, this is.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Stop.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Just get right now.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Oh yeah, I'll prove it right now, like I don't
have all the answers in front of me. Uh. Kyrie,
So that's his.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Sport's acumen has really gone up a really smart now,
like he's following the games, he's really understanding.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, all right, Hey, where where did Kyrie play? Tight shirt?
What where did you play basketball?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Kyrie?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
In college. Well, he plays for Mavericks now, right, but
he played for Duke.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
That's what the game is about.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Did justin? Just whisper Duke to you're playing the game
with you? Okay, all right, I didn't know if you
knew the name of the game, just making sure, all right.
I think so. I think somebody told t.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Were he played.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't know whatever game we played, I got it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Something like more Kyrie. Okay, where else are we going?
Where else are we going? Duke? Did I miss? I'm
going through the nineties now, I'm trying to go through
later into the nine You are really bad at this
game into the two thousands.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
So the number one overall picks is there from back
in the day, oh like before?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh like no.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
Because like the hard part now is remembering whether a
guy actually went to college for a year before.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh yes, of course, Paula Montcarrol.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
No, let tyshirt end it?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh go ahead, ty shirt, Jason.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
I'm actually ashamed of you.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
This is from the Knicks, by the way.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Okay, I'm gonna go back to nineteen sixty three. That
was before my Knicks fan art Hayman. Oh Man, that's right.
Art Hayman. Yeah, Steve, and then he became an MLB
Insider RBI for fan Rag. You guys lost to ty
shirt Art Haman, Yeah, I remember ty shirts. Such a
gonna take the Art Hayman fan. He's a huge Duke fan.
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