May 17, 2024 • 37 mins
Jason and Mike have the latest on the Harrison Butker drama. Longtime NBA Insider Ric Bucher joins the show to talk all things playoffs and latest on the Lakers head coaching search.
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The Nuggets did hit seventy. They scored seventy, but that
was it. Timberwolves one point fifteen, Denver seventy, a forty
five point bury. This series now tied at three apiece
and they head back to Denver for Game seven.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It looked like the Nuggets were jumping out early, and
then after trailing nine too, Minnesota goes on a twenty
zero run. Never look back. Jokic didn't even play in
the fourth quarter. And now we're looking ahead to game
seven in a series that seems like it's close, yet
every game is a twenty point burial.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's insane. Every how is how? Is?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
How is a game? How is a series like this?
Three to three? And every game the other team wins
by twenty points. You got one, then I get one.
I can't win if you win. So let's let's agree
to take it to a game seven. I mean, really,
it doesn't make any sense. It really doesn't make sense.
Like they have the big run and that was it.
(01:48):
Like there was no fight in this game. At no
point did it feel like Denver was gonna put up
a battle to get back into this game. I tried
to put up the gift of the old good job,
good effort kid from my Miami. You know, if you
if you try to search that, you get that little
kid that was at a soccer game that starts doing
low dancing.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I can't use that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
One, can't put that one out as the show emblem
to discuss this game. But yeah, the good job, good
effort kid in well in effect for this one. And
yeah it's it's a game. Yeah we lost you move on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But as a gather covers games right that we.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Do here in the studio at Fox Sports Radio, and
as a fan of the game, this pisses me off.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm talking to this when I say the NBA has
got a playoff problem, Like.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'm all excited, We're coming into the studio, We're gonna
talk a t Wolves and Juggets getting after It's like,
how I.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Mean they think about it? Didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The series is three games apiece, and every game is
the team is winning by at least ten points, and
you get he he's winning by twenty five, and it
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Make it makes sense?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, really, the NBA's got a playoff problem because
this series is three to three and you really only
needed to see a fraction of these games because nothing
is close at the end the team and even even
the games that were hey they won by eight, well
these games were fifteen point games and what happens out
we we got the lead to eight at the end.
I really, it doesn't make any sense. And this is
why I say the NBA their issue with stars missing
(03:15):
games and every game being a blowout. This is not
TV friendly, This is not Hey, We're putting our best
efforts on display when we need to put our best
efforts on display.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Nuggets scored nine points in the fourth quarter. Nine, I'll
show you the shot.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well Jokic didn't play.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, boy, had he played, they probably would have scored,
you know, twenty five.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So that's an embarrassment. And again I get it.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Hey, we know we've got game seven and we can
go back, and that's all fine and good.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
This is trash. It is just a trash game.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I know.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, there's no other way to spin it. We'll let
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Look, this is a great topic for Rick Buker. We'll
ask him that about that coming up in a few minutes.
Love more nbmway, But it's time to get into the
Harrison Butcker story from a different level now because the
NFL is weighed in and they want to distance themselves
from the comments that the Chiefs Kicker made at a
recent Catholic Liberal Arts school graduation ceremony in Kansas Benedictine College.
(04:16):
You know by now because you've seen the remarks that
were everywhere. Butker appeared as a commencement speaker and in
his speech, he said that most of the women receiving
degrees were probably more excited about getting married and having children.
He also said a lot of Catholic leaders were pushing
dangerous gender ideologies under the youth of America. He went
on to it got political at one point, and this
(04:38):
has been a very hot button topic. And now the
NFL has distanced themselves from his comments. And there's two
things to come out of this, really, two things that
are really you can't disagree with all Right, Harrison, Butker
has the freedom to say what he wants to say, right,
But most people want freedom from responsibility.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I want to be able say I want to say
and not be criticized for I'm sorry, but yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Something that I go, Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And one of the main reasons I'm upset about this
is that, And maybe because I think about this because
I had a really awful commencement speaker at Syracuse who
came up and she talked about all the things she
accomplished in what she's accomplished in her life, and I'm like,
that's great. I just paid one hundred thousand dollars to
come to this school for four years, and not only
could our school not get somebody that any of us
(05:26):
have heard of, but now it's about how you are.
Is she is a woman who started Teachers for America,
which is a great thing, right, great organization, great thing
they did getting more teachers and it was awesome. And
her whole speech was about how she started it. And
I'm like, what do I care how you started Teachers
for America.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
That's a great story.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You should have been able to, you know, a great
story or something from that about you know, starting an
organization from decision building something huge.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
This is my graduation. I want to hear something that
that this is for me. This is not for you, right,
this is for me. I just again, I just paid
a lot of money to come to this school to
sit here. Now I'm graduating, and I want to be
left with a great man. I want this to be
about me and about my future and about realizing your
dreams and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So that's what I thought, Emma Stones from Spider Man
up until this, because I guarantee you that if you're
in the crowd for this speech, like you just spent
a lot of money to come to this school, right,
you just spent a lot of money to go to
school here, right, I don't know what Benedictine College is
but you spent if it's.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
A Catholic it's a private Catholic school in kens. I'm
sure it's a decent amount of money. And the last
thing I want to hear is a political speech where
you're telling me what you think of the president, what
you think of dangerous ideologies, and telling me what my
future should be. My future is anything I wanted to be.
If I want to choose to be a homemaker, awesome,
(06:47):
that's incredibly rewarding. If I want to choose to try
to be a captain of industry, that can be incredibly rewarding.
If I want to just be someone who rents videos
and plays video games, that's what I But it's my choice.
And what he he gave was more something that hey,
that's like a political rally, Like he gave a speech
you would give it a political rally, like this is
not something that appealed to the kids. And there's already
(07:08):
reports a lot of kids where were like, whoa wait
a minute, You're supposed to be in your wheelhouse here
talking to kids, because you know he's very religious Catholic,
and instead you're coming across with stuff that's like.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Wow, man. Really, So that's what I'm upset.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's what I'm upset by is that this was a
This was if you want to say that, you go
in and appear at a seapacker, you appear at some
kind of political convention, and you say what you think, like, hey,
that's where that that speech could go.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But to go here, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't think I just spent a lot of money
to go to college for someone to tell me what
I should be doing with my life. And that's not
and you need to stay home and not do anything
right like That's that's the part that got me about
it was this is not the time or place for
this conversation, right to have it. Yeah you want to
say it, yes, but here no, because it's not about you.
It's about the kids. And this is there's no one
(07:54):
part in here where he talked about the kids who
were sitting here graduation. They don't want to be preached
to the less. They just worked hard for four years
or as hard as you can. For me, as much
I was out drinking beer and hang out and going
to classes, still trying to figure out like as hard
as you.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Can for four years, maybe five years. And this is
what you're telling me. I mean, wow, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Seriously, Yeah, you dropped the you know you can go
on to these careers, but you know, then let's talk
about homemaking. And the Chargers got a little bit at
him in the release videos when they had him in
the kitchen. Yeah yeah, when he was in the credits
and the recap, et cetera. I don't know what the
parameters are when someone gets chosen to speak. I had
(08:34):
the great honor when I graduated from Northwestern. The president
of the university was the speaker. So someone canceled last
minute that that would be my okay, like it wasn't
something we really a camp on for or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
They called David Swimmer back for some friends reshoots. So
the President's gonna give.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Me, Well, he would have just been starting there, right.
So ninety five, yeah, I ninety six Redford shows up.
Ninety seven is redact? Want to guess who they had
ninety seven redacted Northwestern in ninety like the guy that
got blacked out on my U.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
My Hallway pictures and redacted in ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Could have been no, no, no, no, could have been OJJ.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Cosby. Oh it was doctor Cosby.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Okay, walk the halls.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, he's now shown as redacted revoked. I'm sorry, revoked
is the and then they had made into diplomatic immunity
license revoked?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, sure, yeah, So I don't know the parameters.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I know the Nuns have released a huge statement in response,
uh to Butker's commentary. And and I don't think at
any point anybody is saying, well, being a homemaker is
a bad thing, right right, But the one is that
he said, this is what your your future has, So
they don't tell me what my sais.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
There's my future, whatever the hell I.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Want to here, here's the quote quote, how many of
you are sitting here about across the stage and are
thinking about the promotions and titles you're going to get
in your career. Some of you may go on to
lead successful careers in the world, But I would venture
to guess that the majority of you are most excited
about your marriage and the children you will bring into
this world. Okay, maybe, And then he gets into his
(10:18):
wife and telling her tale, et cetera, and so talking
about being the primary educator. And look, depending on where
you sit, that might be fine. It's all about purpose
is for me. Time, place discussion. What are the parameters
by which they brought you in to give this speech
(10:39):
because and expectations thereof let's just say you get at
least for that piece of it, right, but the rest
of them. By this he gets into a lot more
in terms of politics, jend because everything else, I.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Think that's even even crazy, Like, Okay, this is not
at all what we want here at a at a college,
at a graduation. I don't know, this is not political,
this is but he made it that way.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Right, and as body by talking about the messages of
inclusiveness and everything that they preach as part of the
education you're receiving their men and women.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Now let me just say this before you, before we
because obviously the argument is going to be, Yes, being
a homemaker can be very rewarding, one hundred percent, right,
Like I said, be whatever you want to be, freedom
that you can do, do whatever you want to do
in your life. But I'm willing to guess, and I'm
willing to feel pretty confident on this that all the
women who were at or men who are homemaker men
(11:31):
can be homemakers too. Then everybody who went to college
there spent all that money isn't finishing graduation saying great, glad,
I just paid all that money for school. Now I'm
going to move home and need somebody, get married and
not have a job and stay home. Now, all of
these kids want to make their mark in the world.
If they didn't want it, they wouldn't go to college.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Right now, you know, I get Now that's the y
I'm thinking to everybody that would spend that kind of
money to go to school to major in something to learn,
is going to want to come out and do something
at least for a few years.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You want to do something, because if you're not, like, hey,
do you want to do anything? No, I'm one of
those people that I like working and I'd like to
meet somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So I'm going to keep a job.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I'm not going to spend money on college because I
didn't I don't have it, or it's not I can
I can use my money for something else or that's
That's what I'm Gavin Field, is that that day everybody
there wants to feel like that I can do whatever
I want to in my future.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, that's that should be. This is what it should be.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And oh, by the way, there's bad ideologies that's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh, by the way, the president is that. I mean, okay,
well what what what happened? Manhe?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Where did this go off the rails? I mean really
that that's that's just that's what That's what I have
the biggest issue.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
With on it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm just confused.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
You know that that platform became the speech that it did,
and you can find the full text of it as
it rolls through, and certainly certain extra SERPs of it
have become far bigger, you know, hot button topics, with
the homemaker one being the one that was the most
defensive to people as as you go through and talking
(13:00):
about choices, talking about assumptions and what do we always
say when you make assumptions of what people's motivations are
about certain things. You know, my only pause was I
can go back to my own college experience, and I
knew folks that were there for the express purposes My
parents said, go marry well, not saying right or wrong,
(13:21):
but there is a percentage to where that is the.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Case in all of it.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
But to assume that that is the majority, which is
how he termed it, and to go through I mean
Patrick Mahomes, people were digging up old clips of you know,
how much do you talk.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
To this guy? He does not at all. We're in
meetings together.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I don't talk to him at all, you know, as
long as he does his job, right, I mean, so,
what do you infer or read into any of those
kind of comments that have come up over the last
couple of days? Again, right to say it?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Whoopy Goldberg was getting a lot of garbage today for
basically saying just that, disagree with it, fight against it.
The guy said what he said, and you know, whatever
consequences in the locker room, around the locker room and
outside of it, you know, he'll has to deal.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
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up in a bit, because there's another angle to this
that I think is kind of flown under the radar
the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
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Speaker 4 (14:31):
Right, wait did he break the code? But coming up next?
Will it be the Nixon six? Will it be Jj
Reddick for the Lakers? Will it be the Nuggets and seven?
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of the night. Thankfully, if you had the Nuggets getting
forty four, oh, you were so close.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
T Wolves win it one, fifteen to seventy.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
This series now tied to three games apiece, heading back
to Denver for Game seven. So far this series, Game
one was Minnesota by seven. Game two is Minnesota by
twenty six. Game three, Denver by twenty seven, Game four,
Denver by eight, Game five, Denver by fifteen, Game six,
Minnesota by forty five. How are these teams taking turns
(16:11):
and blowouts like this? It doesn't seem possible yet here
we are. But this is what I mean when I
say the NBA's got a playoff prom.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, but we got a game seven.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Maybe let's go joining us now on the hot line
to break it all down. He's got new walk up
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On the Ball podcast. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker,
that is at Rick Buker. Go, Rick Buker, Go, Rick Bucker.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
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Speaker 2 (16:41):
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Bud Oh Monster having ways?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Yep, No, getting this scene back in the bottle? Is there? Okay?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
All right?
Speaker 7 (16:55):
I just thought I figured there was a certain amount
of a certain amount of jealousy because the Knicks, for
the most part, don't have these kind of blowout games.
I know they're Game five, they finally put one of those,
one of those together. But their standard is we're gonna
do We're gonna we're gonna grind this to the end
(17:17):
because that's who they are. So nonetheless, thank you for
the for the welcome.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Well, because here's the thing, Rick, is that Nicks Pacers
used to be the norm in the NBA playoff series
were like this. They were contentious. Yes there were blogs,
but there was still each team wants to beat the
brains out of the other one. And as much as
you want to say, Rick Carlisle is crying or he isn't,
I know how bad he wants to win this series.
But I look at the NBA playoff and I go,
(17:47):
they have a real problem with the number of stars
that continue to not play. And you wonder why a
guy like Donovan Mitchell's not playing the last two games.
Over fifty players have missed game so far. And when
the NBA puts their best and the best out here,
and every game is a blowout, and sometimes it's a
twenty five point blow out. Swing from Game two to
Game three. I say this is an issue for the NBA.
(18:08):
This is why the NFL has come after Christmas Day,
because you want to be able to say, hey, here's
the playoffs. This is the best of what we have.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And most of the time it's games where hey, I
can just check in on this and if it's close,
I'll watch it. Like every game is a twenty point burial.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yeah, I mean it's a combination of things, but the
league has created it. Some of it is just the
three point shot has become such a huge part of it.
And for example, in the Nuggets game tonight, I mean
they had wide open shots. They simply missed them. And
(18:44):
going seven to thirty six is going to lead to
not only miss shots, but long rebounds, which are fast
breaks going the other way. And then the general lack
of physicality or the inconsistency if you're getting a whistle,
if you're getting a good whistle and you're and you're
their aggressive addresser and you're making threes, these things can
(19:08):
get out of out of line in a hurry, and
generally the attempt to come back. What's the attempt when
you when you get down by twenty, let's shoot some
more three, and so it compounds the problem if you're
not making them leads. The more run out leads, the
more quick baskets. I will say if I was Minnesota,
(19:29):
I might.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Have like I might have had like a five pass
run the clock down rule, because making it forty five
embarrassing the defending champions going into a game seven.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
I'm not sure that that's the right recipe for then.
I'm just you know, and watching the Denver bench, watching
Yokis and those guys were taking it all in and
there was nothing they could do about it this game.
But I would expect that they're going to do something
about it in Game seven.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Well, you know, their teammates showed up and put up
nine points in the fourth quarter, so they really.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Gave it back to him Rick.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
The most interesting thing the Nuggets did today was well
former coach George Carl just shaking his fist and telling
everybody to get off his lawn about all sorts of
NBA related product. That was more interesting than anything I
saw on the court.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
He had another he had another twitter.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's going after Laker fans, going
after effort, going you name it.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
He's got it. So it's it's all fun.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
It that's that's George. That's just George. I mean, it's
it's on Twitter. Anybody who knew him in the league,
that was him all the time. Like it's not a
personality change by any stress of the imaginates.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well, let's let's what's round one for you?
Speaker 7 (20:56):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'll read one for you and you can jump off
on George for this one because we'll get back into
the remaining teams alive. I'll give the Lakers coaching Surge
committee a free advice today. Lebron isn't a superstar anymore,
an ad will never be one.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Sorge coming with both barrel.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
I mean he's right, and actually I mean he's that's violent,
just committee violent on Twitter. But it is at the
heart of it. It is the issue that the Lakers
are facing in terms of hiring the coach. I think
(21:38):
there's this idea that if they get the right coach,
their championship contenders again, they don't have a championship roster.
So and at the same time, you have veterans like
Lebron and a d who want a coach that is
going to coach them like they're playing for a championship,
(22:00):
so you're not going to get a rebuilding guy. So
you're really caught in at cross purposes. I mean, I
wouldn't say it exactly the way George said it, but
I get his point and I agree with it. It's it's
in fact, one of the stories that I'm working on
right now is you know how you rank the Lakers job.
(22:24):
And I hate to give away some of what I
already have, but like one of the one of the
sources that I talked to executives that it's still a
great job because you're when you get fired, you can
say I was a Lakers head coach and no one
(22:45):
is going to blame you. They're just going to figure
that's the circumstances of being a part of that organization
at this point. And so that's kind of that's that's
that's where we are at this point. So like they
can hire whoever they want and it's probably not gonna work,
and when it doesn't, it's not going to be looked
at as the coach's fault.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Well that's the thing where because I look at it
and go, I don't think it matters. I mean, who
out there outside of reuniting with Frank Vogel, who I
know would make them better defensively. And if you can't
improve and make deals, improving defensively is something you really
can can help you, you know, in your one loss record,
because we know it works, I think they should get
together and say, hey, whatever happened is in the past,
(23:28):
his work before he won a title, let's do it again.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I mean, I don't know the like it's are are
Lebron and Ad gonna.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Listen to JJ Reddick if he comes in, he tells me,
are they gonna listen to Kenny Atkinson? Or are they
just gonna go do what they've been doing for the
last few years. That's kind of what's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean, no, it's it's I'll let me put
it this way. I believe there's a way of if
you come in and you have a plan and it
and it works flawlessly, then I think those guys will listen.
But this is the problem is if you're talking about
JJ Reddick and you're talking about Kenny Atkinson or anybody
(24:05):
coming in, the chances that it's going to work flawlessly
right off the jump is just not real realistic And
and So that's the challenge. And the second that it
doesn't work, and no, they're not they're not going to
listen anymore. But and that's not just with them, that's
what the NBA players in general like. You lose your credibility.
(24:27):
You can lose your credibility in a heartbeat, especially if
you're a coach who doesn't have a track record. And
I'm not mad at your idea about bringing bringing Frank
Vogel back. In theory, it'll never happen, because this is
one of the other things that is a challenge when
it comes to hiring a Lakers coach is that it's
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got to have disass it's got to have like a
certain amount of splash. And because Darvin had been there,
and he'd been on the pistons, and you could dress
it up in a way u to make it look
like that it was a shrewd pick and and it
was sexy. But again, this is where the Lakers find
(25:09):
themselves in terms of like Darvin Ham becomes the sexy,
sexy pick, and they've they've they've they've slow played this
once again, so it's not like they're getting the cream
of the cross. And and and this may be. This
may be the greatest indication of of where the Lakers
(25:29):
are is that Mike Gutenholzer wasn't a waiting around to
see if he could get the Lakers shop. He grabbed
the Phoenix Shock and uh and and so the idea
that the Lakers are somehow in a better position or
are a better team his coach at this stage than
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the Phoenix Suns, who, by all accounts, the feeling is
is like that's a flawed roster.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Nobody talks about the Lakers being the flawed roster like that.
And yet, like Booterfolds had told you, it's more flawed
than the Phoenix Sun.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
I'll take my chances over here.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, I dig that response.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Of all the jobs in the NBA that are available,
the Lakers job, it's one of them, all right. Which
team is more likely to close out in Game six?
The Mavericks or this guy's Nicks?
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Oh, I would go, I'm going to go with both
of them closing out. I mean, or who's who's more likely?
I I feel like they both understand what it is
that they that they need to do and and are
in position to do it.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Indiana just is not playing with the the effort or
the energy necessary, and uh and the Dallas Mavericks have
have have figured things out with with Oklahoma City. I
mean essentially it's it's say, guildess Alexander and and you
can let him get what he what he wants. The
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supporting cast, to me, everybody made a big deal out
of Luka Dotsi's and the triple double. What made them
great is that Luca didn't try to do everything himself,
and the supporting casts were the huge difference. And I
don't think we looked at that series quite that way.
I think if you ask somebody going in this series
(27:25):
who had the better complimentary players, I think most people
would have gone with with the Oklahoma City Thunder and
the Dallas Mavericks. Complimentary players to me, were the huge
difference in that pivotal Game five. They all came, they
all delivered, and I would expect that you're going to
(27:48):
see the same thing back on their home floor in
Game six.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Lastly, does does your predictions change if Scott Foster is
assigned to either of those games?
Speaker 7 (28:00):
What normally that would be?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Yes, potentially, But I mean for the most part, God's
kind of quiet this this this playoff.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yes, he's had an underachieving playoffs so far. Really he's not.
He's not been great.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Well you know what you know what's funny is is
uh like Dancs was giving the referee such a hard
time in game four. I mean he was questioning every
single call. And the great distinction was in game five
he didn't at all like he was. He was complimenting them.
He was. He was like a good call, raising call
(28:36):
for a value, raising his hand. He was going over
and talking to guys in between, like, uh, is there
a good place to eat dinner in Alcahoma City? But
he I mean it was it was such a departure.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But I was.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Thinking, as I'm watching game four, he's giving them hell.
And meanwhile he's got.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
More turnovers than than shots made. He misses a creticles
free throw at the end, like he had a he
had a terrible game. I just wish the referees had
started like like given him flat for his game, Like
as he's running back down correct another street, like what
the hell was that?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
What are you doing? Like why are you taking that
pack the balls?
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Luca? What I would have given for that because it
was merriage if he was giving them the hell about
their performance. He could have given it right back to him.
Hey buddy, you're not exactly the good running the grade
out here yourself, So I don't want to hear about
me missing any calls. Okay, you're missing shock.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You don't even better as if the rest would say, so, heyka,
how come sometimes down the floor you look awesome, and
then sometimes down the floor you're limping when you get
beat defensively and it looks like you can't really do anything.
But yet the next time down the floor you're getting
some kind of slide step three and you look great.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
How come that is? Luca?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Why is that?
Speaker 8 (29:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Yeah, all of that, but look you turn it down
and I and I hope he I hope he learned something,
because it really, it really made a difference, you know,
his You can't tell me that when he's constantly yapping
and bickering and chewing on the referees and not getting
(30:21):
back on defense because of it, or you know, just
always looking for calls, you can't tell me that that
doesn't affect the team at large. And that part of
what had all of them locked in was the fact
that he just went out and played basketball. And so
so everybody else did too. And I would fully expect
(30:42):
that you're going to see the same thing. I would
hope that you're going to see the same thing in
game six. So you know, one other thing I will
tell you. One of the other pieces that I'm doing
working on is about the about Tom Thibodeau's approach, because
this is what I absolutely love of. So he has
to go into his bench, right, and he finds out, oh,
(31:04):
I got some.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Guys who can play here, right, this is what I love.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
So he has to go into his bench and.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
He's still only plays six and a half. Tim Tom
tid is not changing for anybody under any circumstances. I
don't care who have to play. I'm only playing six
and a half guys, Okay, I don't care who they are.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick Buker.
Check out the On the Ball podcast again what he's
working on. As far as Lakers head coaching Tom Thibodeau,
Rick is always buddy appreciated.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
We'll talk to you soon. You got it.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I would wear a Thibodeaux jersey jerseys at this point
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
More NBA coming up in the bit.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But straight up, head, apparently there's a team in the
NFL that the league says owes them something from last year. Ooh,
that's next, right here, Jason and Mike Fox, I owe
you nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You hear me nothing.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
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Speaker 1 (32:22):
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Speaker 4 (32:30):
I'll we have more NBA on the way. But apparently
one NFL team owes the league for last year.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Like, wait, they owe them money? That no, no, they
kind of owe them a solid.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
The day after the NFL schedule is released, of course
we get the day after the reasoning behind who's playing where?
Why the Chargers are flying seventy five million miles to
play their games? They got one game on the moon.
And NFL executive Mike North, who was the spokesman for.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
This, I'm jecked up about it night, Richard.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Was that Mike North.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Said that, Hey, it was asked about the Jets. Hey,
you know you got him on six times in the
first eleven weeks. You got them on a short week
on the first week of the season because they play
Monday night, then they come back to play next week
on a Sunday, then they play on a Thursday. So
you have three short weeks for them to start the season,
and you have them on national TV six times in
eleven games. Boy, the schedule is a little rough for
them in the beginning. Why is that?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
And he said, well, we kind of feel the league.
The league feels like the Jets.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Kind of owe us for last year because they put
him on so many times and Aaron Rodgers got hurt.
And I'm like, okay, so that's why the Jets have
such a difficult first three games while they have three
three short weeks to start the season. Actually too, because
the first one you're coming off of the end of
the preseason, which is fine, but you're talking about playing
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then a short week, then another short week to start
the season, and your first two weeks are on the road.
So the NFL schedule makers did the Jets no favorites.
It's almost like they're mad at the Jets. We gave
you all this stuff last year and Rodgers got hurt.
Now we're gonna screw you. We're gonna get you on
TV so much that it's gonna really play havoc with
your schedule. I understand that the league is probably upset
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that Rogers got hurt.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I don't think the league is as upset as the
Jets are because it was the Jets. I don't think
the Chiefs are upset that Aaron Rodgers got hurt. I
don't think the Cowboys are upset. I get the league
as upset. Did Jets owe nobody anything? They owe no
one anything. They don't owe the league anything because one
of their players got hurt. Like they had a bad
sprinkler head out and Aaron Rodgers tripped on it and
(34:37):
tore his achilles. Oh you know, gotta get rid of that.
I'm sorry about that. We had the sprinkling.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
How you know you owe us because it was your fault,
mister groundskeeper, that that happened.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Like, how do you say they owe us?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So we gave him this really difficult schedule the first
few weeks out of the gate because we wanted to
get him onto They owe what.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Do you mean they owe us? They owe you nothing? Nothing?
Do they owe you?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I mean I think part of it is snark. The
other part was, yeah, four plays in and this guy
falls over.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Whose fault is that? I mean? Football?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
God?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Is it is?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Is it the Jets fault? Because whatdy? Johnson won't replace
the turf in met Life Stadium? Okay, but it's really
but you don't owe them anything.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
What's worse? Met Life Soldier Field that's going down the worst,
the worst. I mean, that's gone, but if you want
to go historically, concrete started to start adding more to it.
But I mean, really you oas, really you oas? Then no,
howas because the guy got hurt. There's so many questions
off schedule. You could have done a four hour podcast
(35:37):
with mister north right. The Steelers don't play a I
had the Jets. They were gonna get me so many wins.
I did my Betton show.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
I was dressed as what does he dress?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Book? Was the bookkeeper?
Speaker 9 (35:49):
Reese was bet And I did this bit for like
twenty five years in Chicago, and I had the Jets
every week last year and I wound up losing, and
I lost like seven houses and five cars.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
They know takes but a little low.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
I know, I get like seven new jobs now because
the Jets screwed me.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
It's a different Mike North. No, it's that Mike That's
it's that Mike North. It's that Mike North, the one
with a pail.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So, I mean, like, there's so many other questions.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Right, you got thirteen teams that are that are playing
games on within four.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Days, right, you got that. You got the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Playing all division games in the final eight games, six
of their final eight gipsy that.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Like, you just go down the list, like and go
look at some of their schedule.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Like for the Steelers, for the Ravens when they have
these four day breaks, they're not against cupcakes, so you're
not finding the Panthers in those games. It's all either
divisional or teams that we expect to be in a playoff. Jase, Like,
what the hell are we doing? And then for this
the Jets, Yeah, we owe them, they owe us.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
You don't like how I did the schedule, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Go back and watch with the Bookie Priest videos some
of the best work from my former solo host on
Sunday Mornings, my guy Mike Norton. They're serious about this,
They're serious that the Jets owe us. Oh oh, so
we're gonna do this. I'm sorry, but you know, we
talked about it for the first eleven weeks. You know,
you talk about the how hard the travel is and
(37:20):
some of the turnaround, but also the all right, we're
gonna milk the Aaron Rodgers cow for as much as
we can, banking on him to be healthy through a
week eleven.
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The Nuggets did hit seventy. They scored seventy, but that
was it. Timberwolves one point fifteen, Denver seventy, a forty
five point bury. This series now tied at three apiece
and they head back to Denver for Game seven.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It looked like the Nuggets were jumping out early, and
then after trailing nine too, Minnesota goes on a twenty
zero run. Never look back. Jokic didn't even play in
the fourth quarter. And now we're looking ahead to game
seven in a series that seems like it's close, yet
every game is a twenty point burial.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It's insane. Every how is how? Is?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
How is a game? How is a series like this?
Three to three? And every game the other team wins
by twenty points. You got one, then I get one.
I can't win if you win. So let's let's agree
to take it to a game seven. I mean, really,
it doesn't make any sense. It really doesn't make sense.
Like they have the big run and that was it.
(01:48):
Like there was no fight in this game. At no
point did it feel like Denver was gonna put up
a battle to get back into this game. I tried
to put up the gift of the old good job,
good effort kid from my Miami. You know, if you
if you try to search that, you get that little
kid that was at a soccer game that starts doing
low dancing.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I can't use that.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
One, can't put that one out as the show emblem
to discuss this game. But yeah, the good job, good
effort kid in well in effect for this one. And
yeah it's it's a game. Yeah we lost you move on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
But as a gather covers games right that we.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Do here in the studio at Fox Sports Radio, and
as a fan of the game, this pisses me off.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm talking to this when I say the NBA has
got a playoff problem, Like.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'm all excited, We're coming into the studio, We're gonna
talk a t Wolves and Juggets getting after It's like,
how I.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Mean they think about it? Didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The series is three games apiece, and every game is
the team is winning by at least ten points, and
you get he he's winning by twenty five, and it
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Make it makes sense?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, really, the NBA's got a playoff problem because
this series is three to three and you really only
needed to see a fraction of these games because nothing
is close at the end the team and even even
the games that were hey they won by eight, well
these games were fifteen point games and what happens out
we we got the lead to eight at the end.
I really, it doesn't make any sense. And this is
why I say the NBA their issue with stars missing
(03:15):
games and every game being a blowout. This is not
TV friendly, This is not Hey, We're putting our best
efforts on display when we need to put our best
efforts on display.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Nuggets scored nine points in the fourth quarter. Nine, I'll
show you the shot.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well Jokic didn't play.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, boy, had he played, they probably would have scored,
you know, twenty five.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
So that's an embarrassment. And again I get it.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Hey, we know we've got game seven and we can
go back, and that's all fine and good.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
This is trash. It is just a trash game.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I know.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, there's no other way to spin it. We'll let
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Look, this is a great topic for Rick Buker. We'll
ask him that about that coming up in a few minutes.
Love more nbmway, But it's time to get into the
Harrison Butcker story from a different level now because the
NFL is weighed in and they want to distance themselves
from the comments that the Chiefs Kicker made at a
recent Catholic Liberal Arts school graduation ceremony in Kansas Benedictine College.
(04:16):
You know by now because you've seen the remarks that
were everywhere. Butker appeared as a commencement speaker and in
his speech, he said that most of the women receiving
degrees were probably more excited about getting married and having children.
He also said a lot of Catholic leaders were pushing
dangerous gender ideologies under the youth of America. He went
on to it got political at one point, and this
(04:38):
has been a very hot button topic. And now the
NFL has distanced themselves from his comments. And there's two
things to come out of this, really, two things that
are really you can't disagree with all Right, Harrison, Butker
has the freedom to say what he wants to say, right,
But most people want freedom from responsibility.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I want to be able say I want to say
and not be criticized for I'm sorry, but yeah, this is.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Something that I go, Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And one of the main reasons I'm upset about this
is that, And maybe because I think about this because
I had a really awful commencement speaker at Syracuse who
came up and she talked about all the things she
accomplished in what she's accomplished in her life, and I'm like,
that's great. I just paid one hundred thousand dollars to
come to this school for four years, and not only
could our school not get somebody that any of us
(05:26):
have heard of, but now it's about how you are.
Is she is a woman who started Teachers for America,
which is a great thing, right, great organization, great thing
they did getting more teachers and it was awesome. And
her whole speech was about how she started it. And
I'm like, what do I care how you started Teachers
for America.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
That's a great story.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You should have been able to, you know, a great
story or something from that about you know, starting an
organization from decision building something huge.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
This is my graduation. I want to hear something that
that this is for me. This is not for you, right,
this is for me. I just again, I just paid
a lot of money to come to this school to
sit here. Now I'm graduating, and I want to be
left with a great man. I want this to be
about me and about my future and about realizing your
dreams and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
So that's what I thought, Emma Stones from Spider Man
up until this, because I guarantee you that if you're
in the crowd for this speech, like you just spent
a lot of money to come to this school, right,
you just spent a lot of money to go to
school here, right, I don't know what Benedictine College is
but you spent if it's.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
A Catholic it's a private Catholic school in kens. I'm
sure it's a decent amount of money. And the last
thing I want to hear is a political speech where
you're telling me what you think of the president, what
you think of dangerous ideologies, and telling me what my
future should be. My future is anything I wanted to be.
If I want to choose to be a homemaker, awesome,
(06:47):
that's incredibly rewarding. If I want to choose to try
to be a captain of industry, that can be incredibly rewarding.
If I want to just be someone who rents videos
and plays video games, that's what I But it's my choice.
And what he he gave was more something that hey,
that's like a political rally, Like he gave a speech
you would give it a political rally, like this is
not something that appealed to the kids. And there's already
(07:08):
reports a lot of kids where were like, whoa wait
a minute, You're supposed to be in your wheelhouse here
talking to kids, because you know he's very religious Catholic,
and instead you're coming across with stuff that's like.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Wow, man. Really, So that's what I'm upset.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's what I'm upset by is that this was a
This was if you want to say that, you go
in and appear at a seapacker, you appear at some
kind of political convention, and you say what you think, like, hey,
that's where that that speech could go.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But to go here, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I don't think I just spent a lot of money
to go to college for someone to tell me what
I should be doing with my life. And that's not
and you need to stay home and not do anything
right like That's that's the part that got me about
it was this is not the time or place for
this conversation, right to have it. Yeah you want to
say it, yes, but here no, because it's not about you.
It's about the kids. And this is there's no one
(07:54):
part in here where he talked about the kids who
were sitting here graduation. They don't want to be preached
to the less. They just worked hard for four years
or as hard as you can. For me, as much
I was out drinking beer and hang out and going
to classes, still trying to figure out like as hard
as you.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Can for four years, maybe five years. And this is
what you're telling me. I mean, wow, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Seriously, Yeah, you dropped the you know you can go
on to these careers, but you know, then let's talk
about homemaking. And the Chargers got a little bit at
him in the release videos when they had him in
the kitchen. Yeah yeah, when he was in the credits
and the recap, et cetera. I don't know what the
parameters are when someone gets chosen to speak. I had
(08:34):
the great honor when I graduated from Northwestern. The president
of the university was the speaker. So someone canceled last
minute that that would be my okay, like it wasn't
something we really a camp on for or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
They called David Swimmer back for some friends reshoots. So
the President's gonna give.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Me, Well, he would have just been starting there, right.
So ninety five, yeah, I ninety six Redford shows up.
Ninety seven is redact? Want to guess who they had
ninety seven redacted Northwestern in ninety like the guy that
got blacked out on my U.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
My Hallway pictures and redacted in ninety seven.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Could have been no, no, no, no, could have been OJJ.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Cosby. Oh it was doctor Cosby.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Okay, walk the halls.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, he's now shown as redacted revoked. I'm sorry, revoked
is the and then they had made into diplomatic immunity
license revoked?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, sure, yeah, So I don't know the parameters.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I know the Nuns have released a huge statement in response,
uh to Butker's commentary. And and I don't think at
any point anybody is saying, well, being a homemaker is
a bad thing, right right, But the one is that
he said, this is what your your future has, So
they don't tell me what my sais.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
There's my future, whatever the hell I.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Want to here, here's the quote quote, how many of
you are sitting here about across the stage and are
thinking about the promotions and titles you're going to get
in your career. Some of you may go on to
lead successful careers in the world, But I would venture
to guess that the majority of you are most excited
about your marriage and the children you will bring into
this world. Okay, maybe, And then he gets into his
(10:18):
wife and telling her tale, et cetera, and so talking
about being the primary educator. And look, depending on where
you sit, that might be fine. It's all about purpose
is for me. Time, place discussion. What are the parameters
by which they brought you in to give this speech
(10:39):
because and expectations thereof let's just say you get at
least for that piece of it, right, but the rest
of them. By this he gets into a lot more
in terms of politics, jend because everything else, I.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Think that's even even crazy, Like, Okay, this is not
at all what we want here at a at a college,
at a graduation. I don't know, this is not political,
this is but he made it that way.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Right, and as body by talking about the messages of
inclusiveness and everything that they preach as part of the
education you're receiving their men and women.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Now let me just say this before you, before we
because obviously the argument is going to be, Yes, being
a homemaker can be very rewarding, one hundred percent, right,
Like I said, be whatever you want to be, freedom
that you can do, do whatever you want to do
in your life. But I'm willing to guess, and I'm
willing to feel pretty confident on this that all the
women who were at or men who are homemaker men
(11:31):
can be homemakers too. Then everybody who went to college
there spent all that money isn't finishing graduation saying great, glad,
I just paid all that money for school. Now I'm
going to move home and need somebody, get married and
not have a job and stay home. Now, all of
these kids want to make their mark in the world.
If they didn't want it, they wouldn't go to college.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Right now, you know, I get Now that's the y
I'm thinking to everybody that would spend that kind of
money to go to school to major in something to learn,
is going to want to come out and do something
at least for a few years.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You want to do something, because if you're not, like, hey,
do you want to do anything? No, I'm one of
those people that I like working and I'd like to
meet somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So I'm going to keep a job.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I'm not going to spend money on college because I
didn't I don't have it, or it's not I can
I can use my money for something else or that's
That's what I'm Gavin Field, is that that day everybody
there wants to feel like that I can do whatever
I want to in my future.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, that's that should be. This is what it should be.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And oh, by the way, there's bad ideologies that's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh, by the way, the president is that. I mean, okay,
well what what what happened? Manhe?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Where did this go off the rails? I mean really
that that's that's just that's what That's what I have
the biggest issue.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
With on it.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, I'm just confused.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
You know that that platform became the speech that it did,
and you can find the full text of it as
it rolls through, and certainly certain extra SERPs of it
have become far bigger, you know, hot button topics, with
the homemaker one being the one that was the most
defensive to people as as you go through and talking
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about choices, talking about assumptions and what do we always
say when you make assumptions of what people's motivations are
about certain things. You know, my only pause was I
can go back to my own college experience, and I
knew folks that were there for the express purposes My
parents said, go marry well, not saying right or wrong,
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but there is a percentage to where that is the.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Case in all of it.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
But to assume that that is the majority, which is
how he termed it, and to go through I mean
Patrick Mahomes, people were digging up old clips of you know,
how much do you talk.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
To this guy? He does not at all. We're in
meetings together.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I don't talk to him at all, you know, as
long as he does his job, right, I mean, so,
what do you infer or read into any of those
kind of comments that have come up over the last
couple of days? Again, right to say it?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Whoopy Goldberg was getting a lot of garbage today for
basically saying just that, disagree with it, fight against it.
The guy said what he said, and you know, whatever
consequences in the locker room, around the locker room and
outside of it, you know, he'll has to deal.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
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the last couple of days.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
But coming up the Chiefs Being's comeback. It's the it's
a tease. Just it means you people wonder what's coming up? Okay,
all right, all.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Right, wait did he break the code? But coming up next?
Will it be the Nixon six? Will it be Jj
Reddick for the Lakers? Will it be the Nuggets and seven?
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of the night. Thankfully, if you had the Nuggets getting
forty four, oh, you were so close.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
T Wolves win it one, fifteen to seventy.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
This series now tied to three games apiece, heading back
to Denver for Game seven. So far this series, Game
one was Minnesota by seven. Game two is Minnesota by
twenty six. Game three, Denver by twenty seven, Game four,
Denver by eight, Game five, Denver by fifteen, Game six,
Minnesota by forty five. How are these teams taking turns
(16:11):
and blowouts like this? It doesn't seem possible yet here
we are. But this is what I mean when I
say the NBA's got a playoff prom.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, but we got a game seven.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Maybe let's go joining us now on the hot line
to break it all down. He's got new walk up
music now Fox Sports one, NBA Insider host of the
On the Ball podcast. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker,
that is at Rick Buker. Go, Rick Buker, Go, Rick Bucker.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Go.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (16:42):
Bud Oh Monster having ways?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Yep, No, getting this scene back in the bottle? Is there? Okay?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
All right?
Speaker 7 (16:55):
I just thought I figured there was a certain amount
of a certain amount of jealousy because the Knicks, for
the most part, don't have these kind of blowout games.
I know they're Game five, they finally put one of those,
one of those together. But their standard is we're gonna
do We're gonna we're gonna grind this to the end
(17:17):
because that's who they are. So nonetheless, thank you for
the for the welcome.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Well, because here's the thing, Rick, is that Nicks Pacers
used to be the norm in the NBA playoff series
were like this. They were contentious. Yes there were blogs,
but there was still each team wants to beat the
brains out of the other one. And as much as
you want to say, Rick Carlisle is crying or he isn't,
I know how bad he wants to win this series.
But I look at the NBA playoff and I go,
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they have a real problem with the number of stars
that continue to not play. And you wonder why a
guy like Donovan Mitchell's not playing the last two games.
Over fifty players have missed game so far. And when
the NBA puts their best and the best out here,
and every game is a blowout, and sometimes it's a
twenty five point blow out. Swing from Game two to
Game three. I say this is an issue for the NBA.
(18:08):
This is why the NFL has come after Christmas Day,
because you want to be able to say, hey, here's
the playoffs. This is the best of what we have.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And most of the time it's games where hey, I
can just check in on this and if it's close,
I'll watch it. Like every game is a twenty point burial.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yeah, I mean it's a combination of things, but the
league has created it. Some of it is just the
three point shot has become such a huge part of it.
And for example, in the Nuggets game tonight, I mean
they had wide open shots. They simply missed them. And
(18:44):
going seven to thirty six is going to lead to
not only miss shots, but long rebounds, which are fast
breaks going the other way. And then the general lack
of physicality or the inconsistency if you're getting a whistle,
if you're getting a good whistle and you're and you're
their aggressive addresser and you're making threes, these things can
(19:08):
get out of out of line in a hurry, and
generally the attempt to come back. What's the attempt when
you when you get down by twenty, let's shoot some
more three, and so it compounds the problem if you're
not making them leads. The more run out leads, the
more quick baskets. I will say if I was Minnesota,
(19:29):
I might.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Have like I might have had like a five pass
run the clock down rule, because making it forty five
embarrassing the defending champions going into a game seven.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
I'm not sure that that's the right recipe for then.
I'm just you know, and watching the Denver bench, watching
Yokis and those guys were taking it all in and
there was nothing they could do about it this game.
But I would expect that they're going to do something
about it in Game seven.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Well, you know, their teammates showed up and put up
nine points in the fourth quarter, so they really.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Gave it back to him Rick.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
The most interesting thing the Nuggets did today was well
former coach George Carl just shaking his fist and telling
everybody to get off his lawn about all sorts of
NBA related product. That was more interesting than anything I
saw on the court.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
He had another he had another twitter.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, it's going after Laker fans, going
after effort, going you name it.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
He's got it. So it's it's all fun.
Speaker 7 (20:36):
It that's that's George. That's just George. I mean, it's
it's on Twitter. Anybody who knew him in the league,
that was him all the time. Like it's not a
personality change by any stress of the imaginates.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well, let's let's what's round one for you?
Speaker 7 (20:56):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'll read one for you and you can jump off
on George for this one because we'll get back into
the remaining teams alive. I'll give the Lakers coaching Surge
committee a free advice today. Lebron isn't a superstar anymore,
an ad will never be one.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Sorge coming with both barrel.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
I mean he's right, and actually I mean he's that's violent,
just committee violent on Twitter. But it is at the
heart of it. It is the issue that the Lakers
are facing in terms of hiring the coach. I think
(21:38):
there's this idea that if they get the right coach,
their championship contenders again, they don't have a championship roster.
So and at the same time, you have veterans like
Lebron and a d who want a coach that is
going to coach them like they're playing for a championship,
(22:00):
so you're not going to get a rebuilding guy. So
you're really caught in at cross purposes. I mean, I
wouldn't say it exactly the way George said it, but
I get his point and I agree with it. It's it's
in fact, one of the stories that I'm working on
right now is you know how you rank the Lakers job.
(22:24):
And I hate to give away some of what I
already have, but like one of the one of the
sources that I talked to executives that it's still a
great job because you're when you get fired, you can
say I was a Lakers head coach and no one
(22:45):
is going to blame you. They're just going to figure
that's the circumstances of being a part of that organization
at this point. And so that's kind of that's that's
that's where we are at this point. So like they
can hire whoever they want and it's probably not gonna work,
and when it doesn't, it's not going to be looked
at as the coach's fault.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Well that's the thing where because I look at it
and go, I don't think it matters. I mean, who
out there outside of reuniting with Frank Vogel, who I
know would make them better defensively. And if you can't
improve and make deals, improving defensively is something you really
can can help you, you know, in your one loss record,
because we know it works, I think they should get
together and say, hey, whatever happened is in the past,
(23:28):
his work before he won a title, let's do it again.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I mean, I don't know the like it's are are
Lebron and Ad gonna.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Listen to JJ Reddick if he comes in, he tells me,
are they gonna listen to Kenny Atkinson? Or are they
just gonna go do what they've been doing for the
last few years. That's kind of what's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean, no, it's it's I'll let me put
it this way. I believe there's a way of if
you come in and you have a plan and it
and it works flawlessly, then I think those guys will listen.
But this is the problem is if you're talking about
JJ Reddick and you're talking about Kenny Atkinson or anybody
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coming in, the chances that it's going to work flawlessly
right off the jump is just not real realistic And
and So that's the challenge. And the second that it
doesn't work, and no, they're not they're not going to
listen anymore. But and that's not just with them, that's
what the NBA players in general like. You lose your credibility.
(24:27):
You can lose your credibility in a heartbeat, especially if
you're a coach who doesn't have a track record. And
I'm not mad at your idea about bringing bringing Frank
Vogel back. In theory, it'll never happen, because this is
one of the other things that is a challenge when
it comes to hiring a Lakers coach is that it's
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got to have disass it's got to have like a
certain amount of splash. And because Darvin had been there,
and he'd been on the pistons, and you could dress
it up in a way u to make it look
like that it was a shrewd pick and and it
was sexy. But again, this is where the Lakers find
(25:09):
themselves in terms of like Darvin Ham becomes the sexy,
sexy pick, and they've they've they've they've slow played this
once again, so it's not like they're getting the cream
of the cross. And and and this may be. This
may be the greatest indication of of where the Lakers
(25:29):
are is that Mike Gutenholzer wasn't a waiting around to
see if he could get the Lakers shop. He grabbed
the Phoenix Shock and uh and and so the idea
that the Lakers are somehow in a better position or
are a better team his coach at this stage than
(25:53):
the Phoenix Suns, who, by all accounts, the feeling is
is like that's a flawed roster.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
Nobody talks about the Lakers being the flawed roster like that.
And yet, like Booterfolds had told you, it's more flawed
than the Phoenix Sun.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
I'll take my chances over here.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, I dig that response.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Of all the jobs in the NBA that are available,
the Lakers job, it's one of them, all right. Which
team is more likely to close out in Game six?
The Mavericks or this guy's Nicks?
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Oh, I would go, I'm going to go with both
of them closing out. I mean, or who's who's more likely?
I I feel like they both understand what it is
that they that they need to do and and are
in position to do it.
Speaker 9 (26:43):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Indiana just is not playing with the the effort or
the energy necessary, and uh and the Dallas Mavericks have
have have figured things out with with Oklahoma City. I
mean essentially it's it's say, guildess Alexander and and you
can let him get what he what he wants. The
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supporting cast, to me, everybody made a big deal out
of Luka Dotsi's and the triple double. What made them
great is that Luca didn't try to do everything himself,
and the supporting casts were the huge difference. And I
don't think we looked at that series quite that way.
I think if you ask somebody going in this series
(27:25):
who had the better complimentary players, I think most people
would have gone with with the Oklahoma City Thunder and
the Dallas Mavericks. Complimentary players to me, were the huge
difference in that pivotal Game five. They all came, they
all delivered, and I would expect that you're going to
(27:48):
see the same thing back on their home floor in
Game six.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Rick.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Lastly, does does your predictions change if Scott Foster is
assigned to either of those games?
Speaker 7 (28:00):
What normally that would be?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Yes, potentially, But I mean for the most part, God's
kind of quiet this this this playoff.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yes, he's had an underachieving playoffs so far. Really he's not.
He's not been great.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Well you know what you know what's funny is is
uh like Dancs was giving the referee such a hard
time in game four. I mean he was questioning every
single call. And the great distinction was in game five
he didn't at all like he was. He was complimenting them.
He was. He was like a good call, raising call
(28:36):
for a value, raising his hand. He was going over
and talking to guys in between, like, uh, is there
a good place to eat dinner in Alcahoma City? But
he I mean it was it was such a departure.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But I was.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Thinking, as I'm watching game four, he's giving them hell.
And meanwhile he's got.
Speaker 7 (28:55):
More turnovers than than shots made. He misses a creticles
free throw at the end, like he had a he
had a terrible game. I just wish the referees had
started like like given him flat for his game, Like
as he's running back down correct another street, like what
the hell was that?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
What are you doing? Like why are you taking that
pack the balls?
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Luca? What I would have given for that because it
was merriage if he was giving them the hell about
their performance. He could have given it right back to him.
Hey buddy, you're not exactly the good running the grade
out here yourself, So I don't want to hear about
me missing any calls. Okay, you're missing shock.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You don't even better as if the rest would say, so, heyka,
how come sometimes down the floor you look awesome, and
then sometimes down the floor you're limping when you get
beat defensively and it looks like you can't really do anything.
But yet the next time down the floor you're getting
some kind of slide step three and you look great.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
How come that is? Luca?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Why is that?
Speaker 8 (29:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
Yeah, all of that, but look you turn it down
and I and I hope he I hope he learned something,
because it really, it really made a difference, you know,
his You can't tell me that when he's constantly yapping
and bickering and chewing on the referees and not getting
(30:21):
back on defense because of it, or you know, just
always looking for calls, you can't tell me that that
doesn't affect the team at large. And that part of
what had all of them locked in was the fact
that he just went out and played basketball. And so
so everybody else did too. And I would fully expect
(30:42):
that you're going to see the same thing. I would
hope that you're going to see the same thing in
game six. So you know, one other thing I will
tell you. One of the other pieces that I'm doing
working on is about the about Tom Thibodeau's approach, because
this is what I absolutely love of. So he has
to go into his bench, right, and he finds out, oh,
(31:04):
I got some.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Guys who can play here, right, this is what I love.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
So he has to go into his bench and.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
He's still only plays six and a half. Tim Tom
tid is not changing for anybody under any circumstances. I
don't care who have to play. I'm only playing six
and a half guys, Okay, I don't care who they are.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
He's on Twitter at Rick Buker, That is at Rick Buker.
Check out the On the Ball podcast again what he's
working on. As far as Lakers head coaching Tom Thibodeau,
Rick is always buddy appreciated.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
We'll talk to you soon. You got it.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I would wear a Thibodeaux jersey jerseys at this point
the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
More NBA coming up in the bit.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
But straight up, head, apparently there's a team in the
NFL that the league says owes them something from last year. Ooh,
that's next, right here, Jason and Mike Fox, I owe
you nothing.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You hear me nothing.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon, Live from the tirerack dot Com Studios.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I'll we have more NBA on the way. But apparently
one NFL team owes the league for last year.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Like, wait, they owe them money? That no, no, they
kind of owe them a solid.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
The day after the NFL schedule is released, of course
we get the day after the reasoning behind who's playing where?
Why the Chargers are flying seventy five million miles to
play their games? They got one game on the moon.
And NFL executive Mike North, who was the spokesman for.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
This, I'm jecked up about it night, Richard.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Was that Mike North.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Said that, Hey, it was asked about the Jets. Hey,
you know you got him on six times in the
first eleven weeks. You got them on a short week
on the first week of the season because they play
Monday night, then they come back to play next week
on a Sunday, then they play on a Thursday. So
you have three short weeks for them to start the season,
and you have them on national TV six times in
eleven games. Boy, the schedule is a little rough for
them in the beginning. Why is that?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
And he said, well, we kind of feel the league.
The league feels like the Jets.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Kind of owe us for last year because they put
him on so many times and Aaron Rodgers got hurt.
And I'm like, okay, so that's why the Jets have
such a difficult first three games while they have three
three short weeks to start the season. Actually too, because
the first one you're coming off of the end of
the preseason, which is fine, but you're talking about playing
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then a short week, then another short week to start
the season, and your first two weeks are on the road.
So the NFL schedule makers did the Jets no favorites.
It's almost like they're mad at the Jets. We gave
you all this stuff last year and Rodgers got hurt.
Now we're gonna screw you. We're gonna get you on
TV so much that it's gonna really play havoc with
your schedule. I understand that the league is probably upset
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that Rogers got hurt.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I don't think the league is as upset as the
Jets are because it was the Jets. I don't think
the Chiefs are upset that Aaron Rodgers got hurt. I
don't think the Cowboys are upset. I get the league
as upset. Did Jets owe nobody anything? They owe no
one anything. They don't owe the league anything because one
of their players got hurt. Like they had a bad
sprinkler head out and Aaron Rodgers tripped on it and
(34:37):
tore his achilles. Oh you know, gotta get rid of that.
I'm sorry about that. We had the sprinkling.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
How you know you owe us because it was your fault,
mister groundskeeper, that that happened.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Like, how do you say they owe us?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
So we gave him this really difficult schedule the first
few weeks out of the gate because we wanted to
get him onto They owe what.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Do you mean they owe us? They owe you nothing? Nothing?
Do they owe you?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I mean I think part of it is snark. The
other part was, yeah, four plays in and this guy
falls over.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Whose fault is that? I mean? Football?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
God?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Is it is?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
It?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Is it the Jets fault? Because whatdy? Johnson won't replace
the turf in met Life Stadium? Okay, but it's really
but you don't owe them anything.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
What's worse? Met Life Soldier Field that's going down the worst,
the worst. I mean, that's gone, but if you want
to go historically, concrete started to start adding more to it.
But I mean, really you oas, really you oas? Then no,
howas because the guy got hurt. There's so many questions
off schedule. You could have done a four hour podcast
(35:37):
with mister north right. The Steelers don't play a I
had the Jets. They were gonna get me so many wins.
I did my Betton show.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
I was dressed as what does he dress?
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Book? Was the bookkeeper?
Speaker 9 (35:49):
Reese was bet And I did this bit for like
twenty five years in Chicago, and I had the Jets
every week last year and I wound up losing, and
I lost like seven houses and five cars.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
They know takes but a little low.
Speaker 9 (36:02):
I know, I get like seven new jobs now because
the Jets screwed me.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
It's a different Mike North. No, it's that Mike That's
it's that Mike North. It's that Mike North, the one
with a pail.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So, I mean, like, there's so many other questions.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Right, you got thirteen teams that are that are playing
games on within four.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Days, right, you got that. You got the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Playing all division games in the final eight games, six
of their final eight gipsy that.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Like, you just go down the list, like and go
look at some of their schedule.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Like for the Steelers, for the Ravens when they have
these four day breaks, they're not against cupcakes, so you're
not finding the Panthers in those games. It's all either
divisional or teams that we expect to be in a playoff. Jase, Like,
what the hell are we doing? And then for this
the Jets, Yeah, we owe them, they owe us.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
You don't like how I did the schedule, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Go back and watch with the Bookie Priest videos some
of the best work from my former solo host on
Sunday Mornings, my guy Mike Norton. They're serious about this,
They're serious that the Jets owe us. Oh oh, so
we're gonna do this. I'm sorry, but you know, we
talked about it for the first eleven weeks. You know,
you talk about the how hard the travel is and
(37:20):
some of the turnaround, but also the all right, we're
gonna milk the Aaron Rodgers cow for as much as
we can, banking on him to be healthy through a
week eleven.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
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Speaker 4 (37:42):
NFL story of the week. Keep it right here, Jason
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