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Jason Smith tells you why Myles Garrett getting the sack record has absolutely zero luster and explains that players got to chase 30 to "bring it back."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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here we are NFL black Monday, coaches are fired, people
looking for new gigs. Yep, we're back our first show
of twenty twenty six. Did you miss us close it
in in our anniversary? Yeah, a couple of days and
what is it? Fourteen years? It'll be fourteen thirteen, fourteen, thirteen, thirteen, ten,

(01:12):
four thirteen. We started thirteen thirteen. Yeah, we're like eight
years behind the Jets not making the playfe h, hang on, okay,
thirteen the Jets last made the play street. It's like, okay,
the Jets last made the playoffs two years before I
started here at Fox. Oh I was close. It is

(01:32):
a fifteen year drought for the Jets. Fifteen bleeping years.
They haven't gotten it right once to make the playoffs,
not once. Everybody else gets it right at least once. No,
that was what I can't losing to the Steelers in
twenty eleven. That was it. That was it. That's Sanchez. Oh,
that was that was it? That last game back to

(01:52):
back AMC title games. I mean, hey, I lived high
on the hog those two day you know, back to
back AMCY championship games. But wow, man, that deal with
the devil kept really during Santa Claus employed for years.
That's really coming through man, that I'll get you to
two AFC title games. What do I need your immortal soul?
Yeah fine, cool? Okay, great, Yeah, that's great. It's not

(02:12):
not a bad trade off. You got down to the crossroads.
I'm good. You picked a wicked ass. I got two
AFC title appearances. Now I want to say that before
we get to the coach who was going to wind
up being a head coach next year in the NFL
was fired today. Aaron Glenn is not fired today as Jets. No,
he's not fired. No, And you've seen a lot of

(02:35):
push the last twenty Why is this happening? Why is
Aaron Glenn still the head coach? I told you months
ago the job was too much for Aaron Glenn. It
was too much his curious game management decisions. And now
people are coming around to boy, why does Aaron Glenn
have a job again? Find someone who loves you as
much as Woody Johnson loves Aaron Glenn.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
He loves the image of the player that Aaron Glenn
was once upon out. But remember about week four I
called you cul de sac because you were excited about
the culture he was gonna build, and then you watched
it happen in New England and.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
That and that's the thing, right to give you something
different on this right for because Aaron Glenn's not fired.
It's why I can't get excited about the Jets potentially
taking Dante More at number two, because it's like whatever
the Jets do is wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Right, no matter what, to be a star somewhere wrong.
You see Samer's stat that he threw up there?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
What did he say?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
So this is from Rich Semini, nemesis of Jason cole
Or Hall of Fame voter and weekly guests. The Jets
trailed by double digits for fifty three percent, So that
I saw the offensive place this season? Yeah, I mean, look,
highest of anybody this century. People had just.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Started to get on the fact of how bad Aaron
Glenn is. Right, but let me give you something new,
good day, let me give you something new. Right now, Obviously,
whatever the Jets do will be wrong. You can put
it under the umbrella of what did Aaron Glenn do
this year? That shows you he knows what he's doing.
There's nothing right, there's nothing. This team was terrible. They
were tanking at the end. It was awful. Right, But

(04:07):
why am I so? Why do am I just waiting
for the next head coach at this point? Because when
Aaron Glenn says stuff like there's a plan, I know
you can't see it, but trust me, whoa dude, No,
you can't say that when you go three and fourteen,
don't tell me. I know there's a plan, and trust me,
we're working on things. We're building stuff. We're building stuff
you can't see, dude, I get the whole evidence of
things not seen. I understand that. Right. That's why I'm

(04:29):
hoping there's something after life, right, because what is this
all for. I'm hoping. I love evidence of things not seen.
But I get to see the Jets on Sunday every Sunday,
and they're absolutely terrible. You need to know any more
than the fact that it is the first team in
one hundred years to not have one interception the entire season, right,
Quincy Williams dropped one yesterday. It hit him in the
front of the helmet, you.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Know, I mean with the mystery man. At the end
of the broadcast of Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, no, they.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Just see a silhouette of a player and then it
had quarterback stats thirty five hundred and seventy or whatever.
That tonal was thirty six touchdowns against zero interceptions, and
they just started laughs, like the composite against.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Against the Jets, Yeah, against the jetsam uh. Look when
he said yesterday, I know what wins in the NFL, right,
I like to think I know what wins This is
not just about Aaron Glenn. This is why he should
be let go. But this also shows you why guys
like Mike Vrabel, Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen are great coaches. Okay,

(05:31):
because he says, I know what wins in the NFL.
I my idea, I know what wins. So what have
we seeing all year? They're tearing down this team and
he wants to rebuild it in the image that he
thinks he needs to win. So you've seen trades, You've
seen quarterbacks being benched, You've seen all of it. This
is such a ridiculously non starter of an idea. When

(05:57):
you're a coach, you come in you can't turn This
is twenty twenty five in the NFL. Man, I get
it sounds great in theory. When you want to come
in and say I'm gonna get rid of all the guys,
I'm gonna build my own culture. You can't do that, man,
you're talking. You can't just change out twenty five thirty
guys and think we're gonna I'm gonna get all the
guys I want. There's complicated stuff like salary cap and

(06:19):
free agency and hitting in the draft. There's complicated things
like players who want out or want to raise. Right,
there's all kinds of things that happen. There's injuries in
a perfect world. Yeah, you want to think a coach
and come in and say, I'm putting my system in place.
I know what wins, right, I know what wins. You
can't rebuild an entire roster and win. It's just it's

(06:40):
just not feasible. But this is what Aaron Glenn wants
to do. And this is why I know I'm waiting
him out and why he's a bad head coach because
look at these other guys that I just mentioned, right,
Mike Rabel first year with a new team, right, Ben
Johnson first year of the new team. Liam Cohen first
year of the new team. Okay, did these guys come
in and say, Okay, we gotta get rid of all
our guys, we gotta start over again. No, because what
do you do? How do you win in the NFL?

(07:03):
These guys know coming in you can't be so so
wrapped up to and dedicated to an idea or a system,
because you're never going to be able to pull that off. Right. Look,
Robert salad lessaid coach of the Jets. He wanted to
run the defense is how he did it. And in
San Francisco with sixteen defensive lineman all this, dude, you
can't do that. You can't remake an entire roster expect
to win. You have to come in and adjust what

(07:25):
you do to the personnel that you have. And no,
you're not keeping everybody. You want to keep the guys
that are going to be your your captain's going forward.
But you come in with a team that has guys
on it that are pretty good players. You have to
work your philosophy around it. Right, Mike Rabel didn't come
into a team that had won ten games last year
and somebody to the number two seed in the AFC.

(07:46):
He give me a team that won four games last year?
Did you get rid of all those guys? Do you
get rid of all? Ramondre Stevens is making too much money?
Got to get rid of him. We just drafted tre
Von Anderson. No kept both of them. And guess what, Hey,
that's working for you, right, that's working pretty well. Then
Johnson and comes into the Bears. They got all kinds
of stuff, all that they have talent, but they're all
over the place. They're not winning. They blew games last year?

(08:06):
What happens Ben Johnson came in. Was there a lot
of new players this year compared to last year?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
And what happened Bear's number two seed in the NFC, right,
Liam Cohen comes into Jacksonville. Jacksonville, Come on, can't get
anything out of Trevor Lawrence. You keep trying to remake things.
It's not happening. What is Liam Cohen commit? Were there
a lot of changes to Jacksonville. No, In fact, they
traded away a running back in the beginning of this.
You're like, why you're trading away tank pigs? But you
can whine a beer. Oh no, I think everything is fine.

(08:31):
These three teams, these are three of the four new
head coaches from last year. They are all top seeds
in their conference. These are all division winners, top two,
top three, top four seeds in the NFL playoffs. And
here's Aaron Glenn because oh, this is my idea of
what wins. And it's like, you got rid of so
many players you kim in you had talent. You can't
tell me. The Jets talent on paper was so different

(08:52):
from all of these teams. The Bears probably had more
talent than anybody but the Patrios team wasn't that talented,
and look at them, right this this Jaguars team wasn't
that talented, but look at them. So this is how
you do it in the NFL. You don't come in
and say, Okay, it's my way. Maybe you could do
that in the seventies in the eighties when free agency
wasn't that big a deal and guys would stay, But
you can't do that now you have to say, what

(09:14):
kind of what's my window here? I have these twenty
players that I really like, and I want to be Okay,
what do I got to do? How do I augment
the team around what I already have? How do I
put my culture in without without sacrificing other things? And
all this was was just we're gonna tear this team
down to the studts. How are you gonna rebuild it?
How do I mean?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
On the plus side, I mean, like the one that's
kind of an outlier in this is the Bears, and
that you did have to tear it down to a degree. Right,
you signed a bunch of offensive linemen and well, that's.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Just improving, that's not that's like we're letting a bunch
of butt offensive down. We had to bring him right,
but you literally had to just fix everything that was
busted and well, take your quarterback and create a new
quarterback from scratch, right, Caleb.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Williams doing things he'd never done. But for the Patrio
looking at five and twelve, four and thirteen, four and
thirteen are the teams you're talking about. For the Jaguars,
the most impressive thing to me from Cohen is the
fact that he did all of this. They brought in
Jacoby Myers, that's great. You talk about Bigsby leaving. Brian
Thomas was hurt or a non factor much of the year,

(10:17):
Travis Hunter was a question mark, and that was gone, Yeah, fine.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Finally when it looked like, whoa, he's gonna be great
and he gets hurt, he's out for them.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
He's at least giving you a contribution both sides and
might have been becoming a nice number two wide receiver,
and yet here you are. The other thing is, I'm
never gonna mock a guy after a press conference. I'm
gonna go buy stock in their team. Cohen, Dan Campbell,
all these guys that got mocked, Sirianni, they all did
pretty well.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
They were just bad at the mic.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Even Avin McDaniel had his run before bad things started
to happen. We'll get to two and all that fun
stuff as we go on, but yeah, tearing it down
to the studs.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
You can't like it. It's too hard right to do
this because you have to replace it.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
And when you're talking about a system, you can do
it over time, you know, over time, but to your point,
not going to have that time. You're not gonna get
it right. You've got to figure out how to win,
and you got to get the quarterback right. And that's
where this is even more damning. And this goes to
the front office as well as Aaron Glenn right the
Hey Aaron, get on a plane and come hang.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Out with us. Yeah, oh no, no, you're not coming back.
We're not bringing you back. I mean, really, how he's
going to this thing? And Breeze Hall is mocking you saying, hey,
old eight can still spin it. Huh well, because that's
the whole thing is that. Okay, this is what I'm doing.
I'm I'm I'm getting rid of Aaron. I'm getting rid
of all this. Okay, I understand that, but you're getting
rid of guys that can still play a little bit.

(11:38):
That could still be the why why are you why
are you convinced that you know the modern NFL? You
know the tearing things that that's a that's a Bill
Parcell's way of doing things that was effective in the
nineties thirty years later. Man, I know you played there
and you played for the guy, but you got to
get that in the NFL now it is a year
to year business and you can't come in and say, well,
we get rid of all the guys this year, this

(12:00):
year away, and we start building next year. You don't
have four or five year rebuilt. But I feel like
Aaron Glenn is stuck in in like the nineties way
of trying to build a football team. And that's just
it took four years. Now we're ready. That doesn't do it?
When when you when? And if the fact is that
it's not like just one guy came in and succeeded
this year with his new team, you had three guys.

(12:21):
These are all to the top four. They were the
top four season. This wasn't hey, we became a five
hundred team and we squeaked into the playoffs. These are
dominant teams in these conferences. Man, well look payment two
years in Denver, right and years you put the guys
some two years up forget it. But I'm just saying, right,
I don't need that.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
You don't even need that, but you get the the
auxiliary of that of just you totally flip things just
that fast, tearing it down to the studs. You don't
get that time. Look how many guys get fired after
a year anymore Like it used to be, you'd get
three or four years, like you were building a college program.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay, we we.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Got to get our guys in here, and and you'd
get that because owners didn't want to give away the money.
Well now they're just here, here's another twenty million dollars,
like Pete Carroll is how many coaches are on that
you're gonna get paid to not coach this year from
the from the Raiders that we're moving on.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
What is it for guys? Said everybody said Gruden. Yeah,
and they're still paying him out of this settlement. Tom
Sorris is still getting paid. I think, yeah, yeah, that y.
But I mean look, I mean like it's it's what
the Jets do is wrong, and and that's why I'm
gonna I know, I'm waiting out Aaron Glenn, just like
I waited out Adam Gase, they decided to bring him back.

(13:31):
I'm like, cy, I just got to wait another year
until they wran and hope for a miracle, right, and
hope for that. That's like you up for again. The
Jets like haities down. We sing a sad song over
and over, hoping at some point it's gonna be different.
But I know now, I got a punt on next
year and wait for the next head coach to come in.
Last thing for you.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
How many fake accounts are going to be out there
for guys that are gonna say I'm going back to
school because I don't want to go to the Jets.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Oh, plenty of them. Plenty of them. I wouldn't be
surprised that Dante Moore decided to go back to school.
Would be surprised.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I would be surprised that break the bank there for
a year and hope something breaks so there's no Jets Raiders,
you're not taking me number one, so then it's the Jet.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Hey, organ, guess what I always wanted to come back.
I'm gonna be back everybody. I've got some ideas for
some alternate uniforms. And then I'll be watching Kyler Murray
play quarterback for the Jets next year. Hey, for six
weeks until he gets hurting and again. Yeah, but I'm
telling you, man that just think about That's why Aaron Glenn,
that's why he needed to go, and that's why he's
failing and not up for the job, is that he
has this antiquated way that he thinks of building a

(14:31):
team that doesn't work. In twenty twenty, well, he is
on the finalists for Meme of the Year, So we
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So while Aaron Glenn was not fired and should have been,
two guys who were fired today, One of them, I
feel pretty confident is going to be a head coach

(15:14):
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Congratulations from Montana State. They are your FCS champions. They
beat Illinois State in overtime. Illinois State scores the point
after is blocked. Justin Lampson, former Syracuse University Quarterback of

(16:28):
the Future, seven teams. Later, he's transferred to well, you know,
throws a touchdown pass and overtime, Montana State kicks the
extra point, and Montana State are your FCS champs.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Run with it as long as you can. Right, you're
gonna give you a seventh year senior get after it?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Why not? I'm telling you. And my dad is wearing
Justin Lampson's pants at this moment, at this most because Okay,
that doesn't sound creepy at all, does it. Okay, we
haven't heard the story. Oh I gotta tell the story.
I'll tell tell the story. We'll get to Kevin Stefanski
in the second. By the way, teams many kill. They
had multiple kick in this game. Sean mcvain not coaching

(17:05):
the special teams for all, it wasn't done.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
John Harball wants a special teams coach to talking about
the reasons.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
So this this website that you introduced me to a
few months ago called Player's Trunk, Yeah, which was on
Shark Tank. Right, it was on Shark Tank. I believe
a bunch of equipment managers and players throughout the country
in all different sports. In college, when players transfer, they
either leave gear behind or they go into an agreement
with the equipment managers where they sell their team issued

(17:34):
gear and people can buy them. You can buy them online.
It's a great sight. You can buy team issued gear
for every college football basketball twos shirts, Hey, orange Balls, Hey,
I got shirts and pants. Holy shirts and pants. So
I said, this is something cool for my dad. So
I looked and I looked for something someone that was

(17:54):
about his size, and Justin Lampson, who was syracuse backup
quarterback a couple of years ago, they had some his
stuff and like, okay, he's six to two. My dad
is six two six'. Three i'm, like all, Right i'm
gonna get him a pair Of Justin lambson's. Pants SO
i get it to because it was the number he
used to. Wear he wore number ten For syracuse and
my dad wore number ten when he played sports in,
school like you, know a long time, ago when there

(18:14):
was only one sport and it was. Cricket, so uh
SO i got him the. Pants he was, like he
was really, Excited, like, WELL i, said, yeah these are
these are player. Pants they war like he had it
says it's got the J l on the tag in
the in the back of the, pants and SO i,
said these are these are his? Pens like, yeah he,
goes at least see that website and there's a bunch
of other, stuff Like Trevor pania who transferred To Penn,
state like a whole bunch of players. There LIKE i

(18:36):
tried to buy some duke stuff from my, cousin but
like The Kyle philipowski stuff like sold out like right,
Away LIKE i couldn't get. There SO i called my
dad AND i, Go, dad turn ON espn. Too Montana
state's playing The National Championship game IN. Fcs he, goes
why WOULD i want to watch? THAT i go Because
Justin lampson is the quarterback From Montana. State that's whose
pants you. Have My dad's, all let me go put him.

(18:58):
On So i'm like that what put on the pants
and turned on the?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Gate did you give him a whole printed OUT cv
Of lanson and everything as you gave it to?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Him? Oh, No my dad's Pretty internet. Savvy he can
he can look.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Stuff you can look that, Up, Dad, like so you
walk in with a cardboard, cutout it's like you have his,
pants he's wearing his. Pants he can buy a couple
of shirts of his still out. THERE i gotta keep
going back to Wearing Luke gerrick's. Pants you don't think
that disease is contagious to?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
ME i don't. Know feeling all right right? Here, okay
what do you Think. Steinbrenners so my dad great moment
sitting on his couch watching the national title game IN,
fgs wearing the pants of the quarterback who was. Playing Like,
dad that is like the. Coolest that's how you extend the.
Holidays here we. Go i'm a.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Champion he's gonna walk around the. Market, hey pants have
a champion right. Here pantsy's eyes is going to let
you know. THAT i tell you the guy's your pickup
line of pickup line.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
And transferred From syracuse and transferred From, stanford went down
to play a different, level and FROM fbs TO. Fcs
But i'm wearing his, pants and he's a. Champion, hey
you want a, Title dad's got his. Pants, hey whatever,
LEVEL i gotta find your wins. Man, no, today my
dad found he's gonna wear those pants every day for
a week's, Beauty like he's Gonna i'm gonna see in
the next few days and. Walk they're gonna be standing

(20:12):
up in the corner by. Themselves, oh he's gonna like
we could wake up in the morning and go and
the pants come up off the chair and just jump
right off The did you really start those? Pants, nope
just been wearing them all week and every single.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Day.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Dad don't we do a little launchry for. You, DAD
i can throw those. Pants just. Sit i'll give your
parent pants to wear a. Mine you can just sit
and watch a game And I'll i'll do The lord
before it be done in an. Hour you'll have a nice,
clean nice, clean fresh par of.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Pants, Dad, jason speaking of your, Dad, yeah have you
showed him the the meme going around Of Tyler? Loop oh,
NO i have not dressed As Aaron. Judge, no, Really
i'll win the game's on the.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Line oh, No, Sam i'll send him. That he that's. Good, yeah,
yeah because because now THAT i gave him those pants
And i'm, on you, KNOW i can send him something
to his chops. On So i'm good with. That. YEAH
i don't want to send him too much bustle my chop, stuff,
right BUT i can, say, okay now you're happy about,
THIS i can now send you.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Alreat to get you a couple of sheets Of Aaron
judge trading cards where he's fielding a.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Ball don't they have a trading card where he's dropping
the fly? Ball, like don't?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
THEY i don't think they made the top. Tops now for,
that he's got a big deal with. Them that signs for.
THEM i had to have made. IT i can't get
like one of Those Harry potter cards WHERE i can
watch him make the.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
ERROR i can Watch Aeron. Judge, yeah the Old. Lenticulars
that'd be.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
GREAT i got a custom card GUY i could get
in touch with and see if he can pull that
off for. Me, okay did he gives a, Video let's
see what we can.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Depresent?

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Uh Now Black monday in THE. Nfl now fore head coaches.
Fired Kevin stefanski fired by The browns. Today not only
will his unemployment not last very, long he'll probably have
a job sometime in the next ten. Days he will
be in head coach somewhere else in THE. Nfl you
still have another day for teams who didn't fire a

(22:05):
coach today to, Think, okay, hey there may be a
couple of guys out there THAT i. Like because that's
whole thing is like, okay like we talked About Aaron
glenn having a. Job, well if you're gonna Fire Aaron,
glenn who's your guy coming? In? Right are there those
people coming in you want to replace your head coach?
With And Kevin. Stefanski the guy's a two Time coach
of The year and he's someone that, clearly, look The

(22:28):
browns are an absolute train. Wreck and you see the
way when when you have non football people Like jimmy
haslm making big football decisions, Like, hey here's two hundred
and thirty million dollars To Shawn watson and we're still
gonna keep you around like you know. That, OKAY i
can only live here for so long BEFORE i have
to get.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Out did you See jimmy hasl get mad about The,
hey how dare you call her? Place just function a, lot,
dude it's been a tire.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Fire That Deshaun watson contract was a bad, idea then
it's a worse idea.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Now and look where you, are and it looks worse
by the. Minute, right he might actually be your start next.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Year this is LEGITIMATELY i might have a. Chance do
you really don't you really want to be there for
The Deshaun Watson Shador sanders quarterback dual next night to be. There, yeah,
Absolutely Deshaun watson head out of it. Something, Sure, hey
coach got. Fired what do you? Think But i'm just
finding out about. It stefanski's got to own some of the,

(23:21):
blame but he will escape a lot of it just
because of the level of dysfunction that we all know
The browns have. Had like you see that obviously the
front office and the ownership and the coach runt are
on different pages drafting the quarterbacks the way they, did,
right you Think Kevin stefanski was on. Board, yeah let's
Get Dylan. Gabriel oh and then let's go Get Shador. Sanders,
no of course.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Not.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
So when there's that level of, disconnect it doesn't matter
what kind of coach you. Are you can tell the whole.
Season stefanski's, like, Guys i'm just putting in my, time,
Right he's he's art how In moneyball when when he
says To, Billy i'm putting my lineup out there SO
i can justify myself When i'm looking for a new
job this, winter, Right Like i'm playing the line that's
gonna get me hired next. Year Like stefancy To, Look

(24:01):
i'm playing my guys right, now BUT i, WANT i
Know i'm gonna be a coach somewhere else, because, look
the guy is a really good head. Coach you're not
always going to. Win but when you were a two
time head coach of The year in the last five
years and you made to the playoffs one year with
starting seven different quarterbacks Including Brian, sipe, YEAH i have
a pretty good idea Of stefanski's. Pedigree, now is he
the perfect head? Coach, no but he immediately becomes the

(24:23):
number one sought after, guy like there's been. NOBODY i,
mean just think About usually at this time of the,
year we hear About Ben, Johnson Aaron. Glenn, right these
are two of the big. Names Ben, Johnson Aaron, Glenn Mike.
Rabel at this time last, year these were the, guys,
right these are the. Guys they're gonna be big, Interviews
we're gonna hear their, names they're gonna get. Jobs there's
nobody we're hearing. Now we're kind of trying to pick out. Names,

(24:45):
well maybe maybe the chiefs coordinators will get, jobs maybe they.
Won't there's no names out. There stefanski jumps to the
top of that list because he's got the. Pedigree and,
again he will escape the blame because you can easily
say he could walk into his interview and just, say,
Well browns got. It you're, Right, Kevin you're, Right. Kevin
he will get a gig someplace, else very very. Quickly
maybe it's The, raiders, right maybe it's. Not maybe another team, decides,

(25:09):
Hey stefanski's, THERE i like. Him, Sorry Aaron, glenn we're
going with. Him or maybe it's a different. Tea but
he will get a. Job he will be a head
coach in THE. Nfl maybe it's The, falcons, right being
able to do what he can do at. Quarterbacks you,
know The falcons have a big quarterback mess on their
hands With pennix And. Cousins maybe it's The. Falcons but
he will have a gig sometime the next ten days
to two. Weeks he will be a head coach in THE. Nfl,

(25:31):
again he will jump From i'm fired with The, browns
but people understand my value and they'll have a new
gig sometime the next two.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Weeks, YEAH i, mean we talk about it all the,
time and we did With Aaron. Glenn, right you choose
the wrong, Quarterback Pete carroll In Las. Vegas bad things
happen in this, case he got saddled with a mess
from day. One you still have two playoff, appearances you
still have the Two coach of The year. Awards you
Had Joe flacko was the most competent guy you've had

(25:58):
in this, process, right Schdor. SANDERS i saw this stat
got to go back and verify all the particulars of
how they're measuring it year to, year and you know
when these stats originated and.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
All but they're.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Saying HIS qbr is only the only guy worse Was
Jimmy clauson in the last fifteen to twenty, years which
is saying.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Something, Right so if you don't have a, quarterback you've got.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Nothing you go To, atlanta you don't have a first round,
pick but you do Have Kirk, cousins who we argued
about it a long time, ago, Right he and The
angels wonder up there In, Pittsburgh Aaron, rodgers they're gonna
be starting quarterbacks based on the way the league is
set up right.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Now, hell bring Old Philip rivers back with a little
bit of juice in his.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Arm but all of that to, say For Kevin, stefanski
it just becomes a where do you want to go
and what team is smart enough to just, say we're
not going to go through the cavalcade of guys out,
Here naggie and these other fifteen right the laundry list of,
candidates because there's no obvious guy coming up from the college.
Ranks Brian flores would get another job if it wasn't

(26:59):
for that pesky. Lawsuit and there's a lot of rumors
about what may happen if he goes to To Las
vegas as part of some package him And dable and
been discuss discussed a bit that that rumo is out.
There mike McCarthy's a wild card in all of, this,
Right like he's he's probably your biggest name other Than. Stefanski, yeah.
Right the rest of them are all coordinators with giant

(27:21):
question marks of whether it. Transcends. Here you've got two
guys with, true proven track, Records so it becomes a
do you want to go work with Cam? Ward do
you want to go work With Jackson? Dart Jackson dart
doing everything he? Can, oh that guy's. Good, YEAH i
like that, guy.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Right that he could he, could he could be a, giant,
right you know WHAT i, mean like he he should
have his pick of wherever he wants to. Go he
should have because there's nobody else out there THAT i
could say, no, no, no this guy Over, stefanski this,
guy because maybe it. Works but maybe you get the
Next mike, McDonald, right maybe you. Do maybe you get
the Next Liam, Cohen maybe you get the Next Aaron. Glenn,

(27:56):
right maybe you get the Next Mike. Tomlin maybe maybe
instead you get the next At Adam. Gase. Right so
if there were if there were those surefire guys out
there that, hey this is you, see this is you
see what they're, doing they deserve a. Chance, okay, right
go Get but there. Isn't there's. Nobody and and look
every year is. Different sometimes they're the great coordinators that are.

(28:18):
Going some years there's, not and you get A ceo
type head coach to come in and do different. Things But,
STEFANSK i guarantee you right, now he's, like all, RIGHT
i got out of, there AND i GOT i timed it,
right AND i got out with my reputation, intact and
good luck whoever follows me In cleveland with that level of.
DYSFUNCTION i, mean who the hell Is. Cleveland cleveland's going
to get a last chance, guy he's The cleveland's gonna. Get,

(28:39):
hey there's thirty two. JOBS i just happened to want
one of. Them that's who's gonna get that job In. Cleveland.
Right but the, whole the whole thing is now he's
he played the game right and he got out at
the right and getting. Fired, okay, Great i'm sure this
meeting was all of, two SAIDs, Kevin we're not bringing.
You i'm, Leaving dundya dom, Good i'm. GOOD i already,
SAID i packed up my. Stuff i'm. Good I'm i'll
SEE i got my car is, running it's all warm,

(29:00):
Up i'll see. You all, good don't worry about. It just,
yeah let me know if and my benefits are good
till the end of the. Month, yeah, right, right all,
good all, good all, good like he played it right
and and having this year not full of, controversy not
showing other teams that, Hey Kevin, stefanski if he disagrees
with the front, office he's gonna be a. Problem Was
Kevin stefanski a? Problem and all this? Year no you

(29:22):
all play shoot or say we'll play shoud Or sanders
will Play Dylan gabriel Play Dylan. Gabriel he knew this was.
It he knew this was gonna be. It either he
walks away five the end of the, year and so
now all these other, teams there's no red, flags there's
no boy IF i brings to fan skin he disagrees
with WHAT i have to, say look at what he's gonna. Do.
Right that's a really smart thing where he was able to,
Say i'm keeping my mouth shut this entire year BECAUSE

(29:42):
i want to coach someplace else next year AND i
can be that number one guy and have my. PICK
i just he's crossing off the days on the. Calendar
there's another few days till the end of the. Year
just don't say. Anything just don't say. ANYTHING i, mean
he's gonna he's the number one. Guy he'll have a
job within ten.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
DAYS i, mean, YEAH a bunch of little blips that
folks tried to create with the whole Shitt sanders, thing
when the guys your second or third string quarterback of
all the reps he didn't get and you had every
backup that's ever taking us a nap in THE, nfl.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Going welcome to our. Job this is the way this,
Works Kevin.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Sevanski the one THING i haven't seen yet, though is
we've got the video of him leaving the complex and
going to his. Car i'm waiting for someone to superimpose
him clicking his. Heels no getting, this skip out to
a nightclub or some.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Crad there's no place like. Home, yeah like. Home i'm
out of no place like. Home. Tom now to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports From.
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The pistons and The knicks because the game was On,
peacock nobody saw, it so he just skipped to the other.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
Games, Okay so don't even talk about The warriors And
clippers game because that's On peacock.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Too oh, yeah, yeah, No, no no one's seeing that.

Speaker 7 (30:48):
Either, okay We i'm gonna do it. Anyway.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Okay The clippers are on top of The warriors sixty
eight fifty, nine five minutes left to go in the third,
Quarter Kawhi leonards sixteen, points eight boards so far As
Steph curry sixteen. Points The nuggets without a single starter
defeed at the seventy six ers one twenty five to
one twenty four in, overtime The rockets defeated The suns
one hundred and ninety seven things to A Kevin durant

(31:12):
three pointer with about five seconds left to go in the.
Game The hornets dominated the thunder one twenty four to
ninety seven to give Okay see their worst loss of the.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Season they are now six and six in their last twelve.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Games and, yeah just to end it, off just because
you told me not, To i'm Gonna The knicks have
lost four straight after they followed The pistons a one
twenty one to ninety Cade cunningham twenty nine points.

Speaker 7 (31:33):
And thirteen assists in the.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
Game in THE, nfl The bengals are retaining head Coach
Zach taylor AND Gm Duke. Tobin Zach taylor did confirm
that he was going to bring back his entire coaching,
staff which is a little bit questionable just judging by.
That bengals Defense dolphins head Coach mike McDaniel stated he
was operating as if he was going to remain the
head coach next season and even said that he was
assisting in the search for a NEW. Gm in THE

(31:57):
Fcs championship game The Montana. State oh my, god totally
blanked on their. Name they Edged Illinois state thirty five
to thirty four in. Overtime back to you, guys, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's what you were. Saying my dad's. Pants just taking
up my dad's.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Pants it just doesn't sound like a, mascot like.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Pants taken Down dad's pants is.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
More of a mascot than Like. Lambson you know there's
a street In Orange county Called. Lambson, like that's WHAT
i would think. Of it doesn't sound like a. Mascot
what is A?

Speaker 7 (32:31):
Lampson he's a.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Champion they've already named the street fast that happens.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
The Red tapes Of. Government take it, Away. Bri i'm
gonna give you my dad's phone. Number you can call.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
Him will you tell me what A lampson?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Is sure he'd love. To, Yeah, yeah then he's gonna
talk to you all about the best seasons ON csi AND. Ncis,
well don't understand That.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
Griffin Or gondor or.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Whatever who was in the first season OF Ci csiah
what's his?

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Name who was the FIRST csi?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Guy Mark, Harmon, no he was N Cis William, Peterson.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
No it was his name, though.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Great show favor my god'll be on the. Phone he's
A cup.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
Fan, yeah give him my, Number. Jason it's, fine we'll
talk for.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
He's gonna be my my new mother in. Law how about?
That give him my. Number. Thanks Jason smith's my Garment
live from The Fox Sports radio. Studios coming up. Next
everybody's going crazy over this big record set yesterday in THE.
Nfl but you know, what, yeah it really is not
that big a. DEAL i tell you. Why Next jason
And Mike.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Fox be sure to catch live editions Of The Jason
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Speaker 1 (33:47):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith show with my best
Friend Mike. Harmon we got more coaching firings to break
down coming up in a few. Minutes but, hey final
day of the regular, season a big record went, down
and you, know you know That jets. One you know
What i'm. Saying, okay did anybody really think The jets

(34:08):
are gonna get an? INTERCEPTION i, mean, really come, on, man.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
You Saw Mitchell chubisky and you were, Like i'm gonna
get to go with Mock harmon because he's gonna throw.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
One it was twenty one nothing and he threw a
pass directly into the hands Of Quincy, williams who somehow
it just bounced off and like he had a force.
FIELD i mean, REALLY i mean if you told me
that the defense, said, hey we all put money down
before the season on that none of us would pick
off a pass and we're collecting on that, MONEY i would, Say,
okay you're, right, Right, like what do you think the
odds would have been to not have one for A bulls.

(34:38):
Season it's never happened before nineteen thirty, Three so big
record goes. Down you could tell That i'm being really
facetious about, This but a big record goes down, yesterday
something we had anticipated and it finally. Happened bengals have
it first out of the rounds forty five yard Life
borough shotgun to big on. Him there it Is Miles,

(35:04):
garrett sack number twenty, three the new single season. Sack
King Brown's radio network on the. Call, now there was
a little bit of a, Oh Joe burrow kind of
Felt Joe burrow was going to get hit from the.
Front he knew That Miles garrett was behind, him so

(35:24):
he kind of, Said, Okay i'm gonna put it away
to fight another. Day the sack was, legit, right the.
Sack the sack For Miles garrett was legit On joe B, Now.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I've used it, before but we used to have a
goat in the old studio where it was one of
those toys where you press the button on the bottom
and the legs collapse and it lays down and then
you release the button and he stands back.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Up you, know go goes, up go goes.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Down that's What Joe burrow looked out, here is, like,
ah this is gonna end badly for. Me so he
pulled A Peyton. Manning, YE i mean he adds. Up
Peyton manning took every sack in his. Career he didn't
get to hit the.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Blush he wasn't running for a first, down he wasn't
getting by the other defensive. Lineman he's, okay it's, here
And garrett gets the.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Second so there's Not Lamar jackson running through Two steelers
inexplicably last. Night BUT i gotta be honest with, you this,
RECORD i don't. CARE i don't think anybody really. CARES
i don't the luster for this record is absolutely. Gone,
right you go back to the fact, that, okay When
Brett farv Allowed Michael strahan to get it, right at the.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Time it was oh, wow he was looking at. Me
he kind of did that for. Him but as you've
seen over the, years, yeah that hasn't aged. Well, Right
So Michael strahan has a record that when you hear
about The sack, record the first thing that goes along
with it is, that, yeah but he doesn't legitimately hold
it Because Brett farv gave it to.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Him but see now it's going one step. Further when
he was confronted By Mark, geston, yeah he.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Said you had my. Record bre dude killed, me gave
my record And mark gash he's got a lot of.
Issues you gave my red And Brett farve is, LIKE
i don't know what you're talking. About thousands of dollars
out of his boy And Brett farv didn't really. UNDERSTAND
i didn't really understand what that meant at that. Point
so the record for twenty years has been is it?
Real the? Record so all this push Towards Miles garrett

(37:03):
breaking this, Record i'm, LIKE i really don't care because
the record's not something and also he needed an extra,
Game like for what druts remember that when all these
records are being. Set, now, hey he had an extra
game to do, it, Right you have sixteen games in regular,
Season now you got seventeen. Games so you're breaking a
record when you have more time to do. It is

(37:24):
that really?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
LEGITIMATE i loved everybody complaining last week after what The
steelers had. Cooked now they lose the game and had
to win in week seventeen or week. Eighteen but you
look at the idea of we're just getting the ball out,
Fast Miles garrett's not gett anywhere Near Aaron rodgers and
where you. Go you go get it Against cincinnati in
The battle For, ohio if you're gonna get. It, yeah

(37:47):
the extra, game because it's always was debated in, baseball,
right the one fifty four versus one sixty, Two and
eventually nobody. Cared maybe thirty years from, now nobody. Cares
in the, moment it's still a new you know acquisition
here of that extra. Game when it goes to, eighteen
it'll be even more.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Right, look it's a record that already existed under, controversy
and now you're adding a layer to. It WHERE i
get the. Record, Look Miles, garrett you have the. Record, congratulations,
man you can make all kinds of money whatever it
is for, you card, shows signing. Stuff, hey Sack, king Sack,
King Miles, GARRETT i get, It BUT i don't think
anybody really cares about. This the only way this comes

(38:24):
back Is, look getting to the quarterback and sacking the
quarterback is something that no matter what level of football
fan you, are you dig, that you dig big. Sacks
but it's gonna take somebody making a run at thirty
to bring it back into being something, that, boy we
really care, about, right the individual sack record and someone
being such a big. Star if you can make a

(38:46):
run at, thirty then suddenly you. Ever Now i'm talking
about making a run at something where the record is
been in the early twenties for the last twenty five
some odd, years, right AND. Tj watt broke. It but
then that wasn't that big a, deal, Right like it's
really this is something that existed for so long and
it was, like, yeah what had? It but it. WASN'T i,
mean it wasn't that big a deal when he got.

(39:06):
It if you can make her run at, thirty that's
going to suddenly bring it. Back, well here he is midway,
through he's got, fifteen he's got. Eighteen he's broken the
record here in week, twelve and now he's at week,
thirteen week, fifteen he's got twenty. Five suddenly that because
then you're talking about bringing back an era of the
defensive player in the caliber Of Lawrence taylor Or Ray,

(39:28):
lewis you, know the individual defensive players that we talk
all sorts of ways about like they're on a different
level than everyone. Else if you could do, that that
would bring the sack back and this record. Back but right, now,
YEAH i really don't. CARE i didn't care About Miles
garrett going. IN i didn't care that he got. IT
i didn't care going. Out it just this is not
a record that at any kind of lust, oppressive and

(39:50):
it adds to the Inevitable hall Of fame discussions down the.
Road right he's at one hundred and twenty five and a.
Half that ties him for twentieth all, time alongside the
Great Dwight, Freeney so a lot of room to to make.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Up the thing that's always gonna be part of it
is how many of them had any meaning, Right strahan
had meaning those they, won he decided to stay In.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Cleveland these are all a bunch.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Of empty sacks against a bunch of bombs or bomb.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Team doing it on a really bad. TEAM i give
him credit for. That he's not a bad.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Game schwest is gonna Win Defensive player of The, Year
rookie of The.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Year good for. Him he's still a great. Player, No
i'm not taking away from being a great. Player but
in the, anthem in the annals of, history it's kind of,
like what they didn't do for? You? Nothing EXIT o
out Of Fresco EXAs Swelling. Dome two more coaches, fired
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