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July 17, 2025 • 40 mins

Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft drama. Jason Cole drops in for all the BIG NFL Headlines heading into training camps.Plus, a couple of angry NFL wide receivers! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, welcome in Side hour too, the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. So before we get
into hey, the NFL rivalry we thought was dead, but no, no,
it keeps coming back good, right, like the end of
a horror movie, like the end of Scream when when uh,

(00:51):
what's his name? No? No, no, no, no no, Jamie
Kennedy says, oh, this is the part where the killer
comes back to life. Will be it for a brief
moment and one final scare? Like, maybe that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We're getting right now with this NFL story. Well yeah,
because it was then Skeet Orick, he took the bullet.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You know, Skeet Olrick. Here's the thing, Skeetolric has not
been in many good movies. Like he's like you know,
he tried to make him happen a couple of times.
He's like Breck and Myers kept showing up in things,
Skeet Alric and Stephendorf and gods, It's like, dude, you
can't keep making them happen. Man, I mean, I haven't
seen Stephen Dorfs of those East Sig commercials that he did,
like five I got to get people smoking. Hey, he said,

(01:30):
he's walking on the beach smoking smoke. I'm wearing a
white T shirt and jeans, which you know is a
classic look. I'll tell you what that like. The cigarettes.
That's the thing he SIGs vaping. Vaping is the thing
we vape, skeet Olric evidently in a show called Parish.
Is that what the ratings did to that show?

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
No, but here's the thing. It's got Gincarlo Esposito is
the least. It doesn't matter. He's in everything.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Now, he's a wizard everything. I turned, Oh, look there's
you're Carlos Posino. Oh he's in.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
There, and oh he said, look now he's got time
on his hands because he he was in that other
show that got camc after one season.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh yeah, he's he's the you know what. He's the
new Sam Jackson. He's the Sam Jackson of television where
he's in absolutely everything. Oh, I didn't know he was
in this. Yeah, Jack Carlos Posino's in this. This says
Bradley Whitford, not the guy from Aerosmith. Yeah, well, Bradley
Whitford from West Wing. It was funny. I don't think anybody. No,
brad Whitford's an Arrowsmith out of the guy that people

(02:28):
didn't there, you know, Steven Tyler and Joe Perry and
that's it. They might do one more concert like Ozzie
and walk Away Bruce Salton and yeah, anyway, they got
you got Rocket Pnemonia and Joe Perry too.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Sure at least uh Joey Kramer's not coming back though,
sket O Rick, so he's still working, so good for it.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, I gotta say this right because look, tonight is
ESB's night. And as someone who had one of the
most fun gigs that I had at ESPN Radio is
when I worked the SP's red carpet doing interviews. It
was the most fun thing to do. And you're sweating. Yeah, dude,
the red carpet is hot. Man, I can't I can't
tell you how hot, how hot it was there. Uh,

(03:07):
it's it's really insane. Seeing the jokes that Shane Gillis
is doing tonight are just absolutely eye opening, Like they
clearly clear without knowing, they clearly let him know, do
whatever you want, because he is doing Jeffrey Epstein jokes.

(03:29):
Yeah he's well and that was his joke, right he is, Yeah,
exactly exactly, that's what that's that's the joke. But he
is doing jokes that this is not just hey, we're
a little bit risky with sports. This is like and
this is like Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globe some
of the stuff he's like that that he did tonight,
I'm like, oh my god, this is a Disney company

(03:51):
and this is what they're all of a sudden, it's like, hey,
we're full going to the dark side. Everything is everything
is open, right. They had one Soto jokes with involving
President Trump, like all of a sudden, everything was we
don't care, like this is this is not the ESPN
and Disney that I've known up until today. Like this
is absolutely shocking to me. That not not that we

(04:11):
see these jokes, not that because look, you get on
social media. You see you see comedians doing jokes like
this all the time. You see it everywhere. I'm not
saying that seeing it is rare, but seeing this on ESPN,
which is always completely hyper aware of everything political and
going on in the world, and this is just wow, Like,
this is stuff. I don't know that if you tried
to put this at the Oscars, they wouldn't say, you

(04:31):
know what, yeah, sorry, you can't do it. Man, can't
these jokes, these jokes? Oh yeah, that's just it.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Maybe he just brought into that froust, right, but.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
You brought him in, and you know what you signed
up for. It's like, you know certain celebrities you hire
them onto a movie set, you know there's gonna be uh,
you know, at some point in a little bit of
a standoff with the director, operations shut down for a
week at a time because they're fighting with co stars.
It's just part of what happens with this comedians. You

(05:00):
got guys that are safe, or guys you thought were safe. Yeah,
because right one of the guys that was the safest
of all time. Guess what, not so much happened, all right,
So all of that to say you hired Shane Gillis
for a reason. When you brought in Ricky Gervais, you
knew he was going to be irreverent and say whatever
was on his damn mind.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So I think, owing.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
To our earlier conversation last Hour, you'll find that in
the podcast when it goes up, download and give it
five stars. Evangelized to friends and family, but a quick
synopsis and a teaser trailer for it, with potentially Barstool
becoming part of the Fox family of FS one. You've
already seen things with Pat McAfee's show, and a number
of times where maybe they've gone towards or over a line,

(05:42):
depending on where you're putting it in the sand as
an individual, as an organization at times. But people have
come and they watch and they download the digital clips.
Right as we moved to trying to figure out more
metrics and meaningful metrics in our business, radio, television, everything else.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
This is where you're going.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Hence Gillis gets his job hosting the SP's I mean
come on, he called back, one of the famous Norm
McDonald lines.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah yeah, I'm go close things out. I mean, come on,
I mean, it's just it's so shocking to me that
it's almost like ESPN is getting dragged into the twenty
first century. That okay now, because look there's shows that
have cursing on it now during the day, and now
you have you have an event like this where okay,
this is almost like, hey, we're debuting a whole new look. Now,
hey coing on. I mean, this is this is really

(06:32):
it's so shocking to me because this is not this
is not Disney, right, this is not Disney Company.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Well, this is Mirramax back in the day, which is
a part of Disney, but they tried to quote unquote
hide it tell you know, reservoir dogs and pulp fiction
and all those things that came out on Mirrormac, the
whole other thing that comes out of that.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
But it's just the idea of it was always there.
Now it's just in plain sight. You could scream, but
it won't health you ever listen to k Billy Super
Sounds of the seventies. So the rivalry that we didn't
know was still going on, but apparently it is. Oh good,
is still going strong between Bill Belichick and Bob Craft. Okay,

(07:14):
Bob Craft, who said recently that he took a big
risk by hiring Bill Belichick as the Patriots head coach
in nineteen ninety nine. Right, Belichick, who had been Hider's
HC of the NYJ but didn't really didn't like Woody Johnson,
so he said, I'm not going here. The Patriots called,
they hired him, Okay, now, Belichick. Yeah, it was a

(07:35):
risk because Belichick completely flopped when he was coaching the Browns,
which I really I wanted thirty for thirty just on
him coaching the Browns, just on that erar like, because
people will understand how big of a failure that was.
Cutting cutting Bernie Kozar right, like in saying Vinny Testaverdi's
my guys, Like, didn't you could have do that the
first say, the first day you walk in the door.

(07:56):
There were people that were protesting outside Browns headquarters. But
it was a big risk because you know, twenty five
years ago, Belichick's brand wasn't great, right it was? It
was definitely he's a genius. They called him Tuna Helper,
you know, little Tuna, you know, because he was Bill
Parcells's longtime defensive coordinator. So yeah, it was a risk.
This didn't sit well with Bill Belichick, who put a

(08:17):
lengthy statement out to ESPN about this, and I think
it was him and not Jordan Hudson, But I think
it was Belichick who put this statement out by saying, quote,
as I told Robert multiple times through the years, I
took a big risk by taking the new England Patriots
head coaching job. I already had an opportunity to be
the head coach of the Jets, but the ownership situation

(08:38):
was unstable. Yeah, you just hated Woody Johnson. Wait, what
does it matter?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, but doesn't that get him more credibility all these
years later, knowing what we know about Woody Johnson and
his running.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Of a squad. I think so. He said, I had
been warned by multiple previous Patriots coaches, as well as
other members of other NFL organizations and the media that
the Patriots job was gonna come with many internal obstacles, right,
So all of so, all of this was, you know,
And now all of a sudden he's saying, Oh, you
said I was a risk. I took the risk. Now
they're fighting over who took the bigger risk. Everybody wants

(09:10):
I took the bigger risk. No, no, no, I hired you.
That was a bigger risk. Yeah, but I took the job.
That was the bigger risk. No, I took them. They're
fighting over the bigger risk. You know what I want? Honestly,
here's what I say. Okay, here's a message. Three round
exhibition bottom one. You're not far off, Mike Harmon, you
are not far off. This is my message to Belichick
and Brady and Craft. You know what, Quit teasing us,

(09:31):
Suck it up, quit teasing us with this. Hey, we're
gonna just let it slip that we don't like each other.
But publicly we can still give kissy faces and show
up at roasts and laugh. But you know we're gonna
drop something, a little nugget once in a wad reminds
you that, yeah, we really don't like each other, and
a lot of stuff up. You know, Stop, we know

(09:52):
you guys hate each other. Stop dancing around it, Stop
being half in on what you want to say, and
tell us what happened. And the first person to tell
your story is always gonna be the guy believed once,
So whether it's Brady or Belichick or Craft, somebody tell
that story so we know what's going So it's not
once every few months. Hey, you know this really wasn't

(10:14):
cool what you did then all up, but hey, when
it comes to it, I can still hug you because
we won and the partnership turned out here. No, no,
no one of you three could write the book, do
the interview, have the miniseriies just like you did for
the Lakers, and the Clippers will do the Patriots mini
series at all everything else, and Zach Effron can play
Bill Belichick. We could have this going on. Tom Brady

(10:35):
can play himself because he looks exactly the same one
of you three. Whoever talks first, it's like in the
cop shows, where you know, I got your buddy in here.
He's gonna sing. You tell me what went on first,
and maybe I could do something for you, But you
wait until after he talks. Nothing I can do. Whoever
talks first, people are gonna believe the first. Everybody else
is playing defense. What happened, all right? Either don't talk

(10:57):
about it or tell us what happened, and I'm past
I want to know things, so tell us what. Don't
dance around this anymore. None of you work with each other,
None of you need to be near each other. No
one's gonna go to the Belichick roast when they're roasting
Belichick and Jordan Hudson. That's not happening. None of you
three need to worry about each other all. Somebody tell
us everything.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
But see, that's where we're not far off of what
we need to do with this situation. Because we've been
talking a little bit about Shane Gillis. He's now our moderator.
We're a country that we sit and we very uneasily
watch local, state and national debates for elected seats and

(11:38):
we hate watch it, and then we tweet about it.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
This is what we need. We need Belichick and crap
moderated by Gillis, who gets to crack on them for
their answers and needle them in the process.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
But that's it. It's either that.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
We put on the oversized gloves like it was celebrity
boxing with Bridges and Bonaducci and we get after it.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I was so what the oversized gloves like at the
home run derby on Monday night? Right, they just put
one of those big gloves in the outfield, have them
wearing them, and that's what you fight with. We can
do that too, Yeah, yeah, let's do that forget to
be overside. Let's have the big baseball gloves and now
people just slapping at each other.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Oh yeah, this little half ass effort of once in
a while and he give you a one or two lines. No,
I to come on risk. You know I had the
bigger risk. You were a forty percent coach. You had
the quarterback controversy, you had Nick Saban hanging out with you.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean, you had a lot of stuff. Tell us
the story. It's time. It's time for you to tell
us the story. It's hard to stop dancing around it.
Don't dance. Just tell us stop being Reggie Bush. When
you get to the line of scrimmage. I'm gonna dance
and see if I can find for two yard laws,
which what Reggie Bush did from rich you did sometimes
got hit the whole hard, right, just hit the whole
art tell them, Just tell us what's going on. Tell

(12:47):
us what's going on. So you have to do it's all.
It's like the tushboysh and get up in there. You
gotta just me commit to the bit. Exit out about
a Fresca exit swalling dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Come up next. We
got Jason Cole on the way NFL Insider it us
his take on Belichick and Craft. Plus, we have the
Jets doing the right thing. We have upset wide receivers

(13:10):
who want contract extensions or trades. How's that gonna play out?
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Speaker 1 (14:00):
This is part of the only French I know. Let's
use song. Vissage means eyes without a face. If you
know that, I know that, look at you because.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
I really do it.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
In the song, I'm like, let's use song vissage, eyes
without a face, feel like a wizard. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
He just re released the album that was the Rock
the Cradle of Love album Wow, Rock.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
The Uh Cradle Love ninety No. Ninety ninety ninety ninety
ninety one. Billy Idol Cradle of Love Wow. Joining us
now on the hot line to chop up Bill Belichick
and Bob Kraft. Hey, Cradle of Love it works and
the Jets doing things right. We have upset wide receivers

(14:43):
and we have his theme music. He has longtime NFL
insider on the thirty third team. He is a Hall
of Very Good voter. It is Jason Cole, Jake Cole.
What's up, buddy, I'm thinking about.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
This Rock the Cradle of Love very good, good, mediocre.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Cradle of Love is a very good song. It's not
White Wedding, but it's it's still a very good White Weddings.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
A great I will say that there's nothing like a
good snarl from Billie Idol.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, you could do it. I don't think
you do with both with both sides of his lips too.
He's not just a one song guy.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
He was amb lipstrick whatever you call that.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, big deal. I'm going to see if that's
the word ambulistic, lipstrick, ambu lip.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
It was the top of my head. I don't think
that's too bad.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That's not bad.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, nineteen ninety release, and it was after and he
completed the album that had his motorcycle accident, which is
why he just.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
The I just searched.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I just searched amba lipstrick, and it just says, did
you mean one of these other words? And it gives
me a whole bunch of other words I don't even know. Yeah,
much that I don't even know. Yeah, well, the first
one's a premo last. Isn't that something in ozepic? Right?
That's like the friend did you mean to search a
premo last? I think that's a.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
That's more of a Robert F. Kennedy question. Okay, I'm
not qualified today, Alas. I'm not sure he is either,
but I know I'm.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Not appla sib Yeah. Adapt. That's coming close to saying we're.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Making it up, man, We're just making it up search
as you might like, we are rewriting the English language
during this show.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
That is what we bring, that's what that is the
cultural significance of this show, at least when I'm on it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
But I have to ask you a very serious question
because we talked about the Bob Kraft Bill Belichick battle
a few minutes ago about you know, Craft says, hey,
I took a big risk hiring Belichick in nineteen ninety nine,
and Belichick responded to ESPN today saying, I took the
big risk taking the job. Who's taking a bigger risk
night us having you on the show. Are you coming
on the show with us?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Well, it definitely me coming on the show with you. Guys.
Why is that well whose reputation is more? It's higher.
I'm a I'm a Hall of fame very good.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
You almost said very good voter. Yeah, we'veditioned him all
very good voter.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
You don't say this.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
To me all of the thing with the guy in
the place.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I'm all of very fame voter. There we go.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
That was like check swing, let's look it down at
first place he went around. He meant to say hall
of very good, But I'm a.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Hall of very very moto is out on.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
That for Pedro Barbone? What are you making this whole?
Belichick saying he had the bigger risk in his battle
with Craft.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Oh, it's it's it's just the most childish of the
I don't understand how two men who who accomplished everything
that they did together can't look at each other and
make peace. And granted, like Belichick, Belichick has to have

(18:20):
a certain amount of self awareness that he's a gigantic
pain in Can I say, can I say the A
word yea or yeah, here's a gigantic pain in the
act to deal with. But this time in your life,
if you're Build Belichick, you should sit there and you say, yeah,
that's who I am. I get it. I'm really difficult

(18:42):
to work with. This is what it takes to work
with me. So you have to do it my way.
And Bob Kraft has to sit there and say I
needed to get him to run this organization after everything
that happen with Parcels and then Pete Carroll and all
that stuff, and I needed him and together they you know,
when you put Tom Brady together with him, you have

(19:05):
the most magical run in the history of the NFL.
And you should look back and appreciate that because it
put you both on the map to be in the
Hall of Fame, not the fame or very fame in
the Hall of Fame truly. Okay, So the fact that
they can't make peace about this and apologize, to which

(19:27):
I like Kraft does, oh, in a legitimate apologize, apology
for undercutting him with the Atlanta job last year, and
you know, not supporting him towards the end and you
know the way he necessarily could happen and you're definitely
running him off when he maybe could have given him
one more year to try and see if the rebuild

(19:47):
would work. But there were justifications for letting Bilichick go again.
I don't think it was that huge a controversy, but
I would have liked to have seen Kraft say here,
staying here and break through record, like, let me give
you that after all you did for us, Stay here,
breakshough this record, do it as a patriot, and then

(20:08):
you know, we'll partner, we'll part company after that. He
didn't need to do it quite as early as he did, so, like,
you know, just call each other and say, let's put
this aside. This is silly, it's just dumb. But they can't.
They're just too caddy and and Bob Craft is caddy
too in his own way. I told you he's being
in his office. You know, after Jerry Jones made the

(20:29):
Hall of Fame and he started to say, well Jerry
did this, and I just said, Jerry is P. T. Barnum.
You just have to accept that that's what he is,
and that's why he's in the Hall of Fame. And yes,
Bob Craft deserves being in the Hall of Fame, and
the way that they've made the rules with the Hall
of Fame will probably keep him out longer than he should.

(20:54):
But he's he should be in the Hall of Fame,
and he should be in in a large part because
of the partnership that he had with Bull Belichick, not
just because he hired or took a chance on Dull.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Belichick in the interim, will continue to get the half
assed verbal slap fight between these two.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I want, you know, I.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Want someone to it so it's so it's such a joke.
It's just such a joke. That's a joke from both
of them. I mean, I look at her and goes,
I just like, stop being children. You just really you
both need to stop this ridiculous you know, this ridiculous
cat fight. You guys are just being idiots.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now here's where I can help you, Ja Cole, because
this is what I want, and this is you know,
this is a good reason we have one tonight because
I are helping help. Yeah, when you say I'm gonna
say something to help you, well, first of all, I
help you by putting you on We help you by
putting you on the radio every week. Secondly, what I
said a few minutes ago is you know what, I
like him and Brady and Craft to just stop dancing
around the fact that they can't stand each other. And

(21:53):
someone's got to say they got to write the book
about what happened. Right, the first person that tells their story,
you always believe them the most. Right, So how about
you call Bob Kraft or Belichick or Brady whoever you
know the most, and say, hey, let's write this book together,
and boom, you have a best seller and everything looks
good for you. You kicked me and Harmon a couple of bucks,
and everybody wins because we get the stories about Okay,

(22:15):
this is why things are so bad.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Wait a second, I haven't even gotten like enough sandwiches
out of you, and I was just kicking. I've been
doing I've been doing this show for eighty seven years.
It's a long time free basically, yeah, it's a long time.
I've been doing this show again.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
You signed, you signed, like.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
I got three sandwiches out of you. I'm gotting to
get some whiskey out of arm and some some pizza
out of harmony. He's he's a trooper. You like what
I got a donation ofgar like the avenue we come
through this year.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You saw, first of all, you signed a five year,
three sandwich deal, and we have the option for a sandwich.
We have the option of a no sandwich year. We
exercise the option of the no sand and what's year
on that?

Speaker 4 (23:01):
NFL free agency in the nineteen seven Okay, it is
worse than that. Okay, because it doesn't even exist. You
guys don't even acknowledge free agency. That's what the NFL
did in the seventies free agency. What are you talking about?
Plan B. Let's come up with that idea.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh God, speak of a guy that's really unhappy with
his contract. Terry McLaurin telling anybody who listened, he's mad,
but he walks to thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
But not my first rodeo.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Worst free agency in the seventies, it's Sandwich Gate.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I'm the Jason Smith Show with my Do we want
to give three hundred grand to Roy Green? I don't know.
I don't know that's good? All right?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
So the mclauren does he play on the one final
year of his deal?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Do does he get a bump or does he get traded?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Okay? I guess yeah, I don't know what they want.
I know that people talk about mclauren's. He doesn't run
that grade as that dude gets open. He just gets open.
And there are times where he just carries them because
they're not they're not extremely talented. The quarterback is obviously amazing,

(24:14):
but mclaurin's carries them when they've had some ragtag quarterbacks
who don't deserve to be in the league. Now, is
he as good as Roy Green? Good question? Gray Green
hat really truly had his moments for about five years there.
But I'll go with McLaurin right now. And I would
pay how much would I pay him? There? We're going

(24:36):
top shelf from me on, Like, do we think he's
better than Brandon huck Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Does he get Garrett Wilson money?

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Not quite? You know, Garrett Wilson's Garrett Wilson is on
a slightly different plateau in terms of where I think
he can get to if he didn't play for the Jets.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Hey, he's the modern day Tim Brown. Okay, stop all
those crap tasted quarterback he's played with and still he's
averaging ninety receptions a year of the first three years.
He's the Tim Brown of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yes, and it's being held that for one reason he
plays for the Jets.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Comes back to what he Johnson first circle.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Where am I wrong? Where am I wrong? Point any
hole in what I just said?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, how can he be held back?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
He direct It's accurate.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
He just signed a huge extension. No, no, no, no, no,
he's still catching one hundred passes a year.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Radio guy. Listen to me. I'm radio guy as I
try and talk over you, because I'm going to make
some fume of DS points because I practice this all
the time, and I'm a Jets fan, so I'm well
trained in having the BS my way through any kind
of point to justify why I belove this team that
has let me down for my entire lifetime. That's what's
happening here, and that's what you have to understand. And

(25:48):
that's what you have to accept to just be quiet
for a moment. Let it go, be like Vin Scully.
Let the moment just happens.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I'll do that. That'll give you a chance to google
Roy Green mean, so you can see who he is,
because I know you don't know. So that's fine.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Lewis Cardinals, who honored his contract in the last year
even though everybody told him in the world to hold out. Yeah,
I know who.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Are dangling the next sandwich in front of a parent
you want.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
I'm with that next sandwich, man, I'm getting the whole
wing at art Deli. I'm just telling you that.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
That's like a do that's a doughnut on the rope
in front of a treadmill. That's what we're doing right now.
That sandwich is right in front of.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
You, all of a sudden, sandwich.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Now, I need you to admit. I need you to
admit the Jets have done the right thing and are
acting like I'm doing boy NFL eye with what they've
done with Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner this week, because
I know you can't fake your way by saying no,
they haven't, because they have and the tear comes to
my eye because the Jets are acting like a big
boy franchise.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
I mean they pay players.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, they paid two players who were twenty four years
old a year before they had to pay them. This
is the Jets we're talking about. They don't do things
like this. They pay guys more money when they're too old,
and then they have to recoup it and we still
don't make the playoffs. This is like what good teams do. Hey,
we're gonna lock up our core guys. We're twenty four
years old a year before they would cost even more money. Okay,

(27:33):
we're gonna do this. This is what teams do, just
not my team. So I need you to have some
I'll respect you your job. I'll even extend you for
one year and one sandwich and you you because if
you you sit here and you acknowledgemult.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Right, we've almost gotten nineteen eighty four in creation.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Oh by the way, nineteen eighty four Roy Green's best year,
fifteen hundred yard receiving.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Okay, okay, so I will like knowledge that they have
done well by their two best players and lost them up.
Now have the Jets had ideas like this before that
didn't quite worked out. Yes, I mean it's when they
you know, they took who's a left tackle that they
have for years and years and years the Brickishop Ferguson

(28:21):
when they have Ferguson, and then they drafted Darrell Rivas
the next year, right, Yeah, And and Mike Tannabomb came
up with a really great idea that I don't want
both of these guys to come up as free agents
in the same year, So I'm going to make I'm
not going to I'm going to make Darrel Revis hold
out for a six year deal instead of a five

(28:44):
year deal and set the table for the wildest negotiation
to ever play out over the next seven years because
you just didn't do a standard five year deal and think,
you know what, they're both rookies. I can deal with
this in five years. Yeah, Like that was the advanced thinking.

(29:05):
So based on history of the Jets and how they've
done business, yeah, I'll say this is this is a solid,
solid move for them. It's advanced thinking. But it's not
the first time that I'm done advanced thinking. And somehow,
some way, because they are the Jets, it will blow
up in their face.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
But you like the move, and you admit that it's
a really good move. I need write there, so I
need I need. I got it, I got it, I
got it. You got it on tape, I got I
got it on tape.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Okay, yeah, I admit that you did the most amazing
thing ever Markible and your best players.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
All right, now, I are you a sandwich.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
That's I will say, as compared to what they went
through with three, that it was their best player time. Yes,
this is an advancement from that. I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
So we exercised your option on a no sandwich year
this year, but I'll extra size the one sandwich here
next year.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Wait, did we have an option?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Twenty twenty five is a no sandwich here? Twenty twenty
six is a sandwich here.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
I've never agreed to any options, no half option. No,
you did. I was I was playing out the contract.
No no, No, I played it out. I played it out.
I was Roy Green.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
No, we changed I were changing rules after COVID.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
No, I am coming off a fifteen hundred yard years
all right, I will do just like staying on this show.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Sometimes some players get a signing bonus. I will give
you the bite of a Langer's Deli sandwich next time
I see you as a bit of your signing bonus.
But your full sandwich is paid next year.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
What are we talking about, like going to Jerry's or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Well, Langers are arts. Wherever you want to go, I'll
find I'll let you get the sandwich.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
We do. We do arts and nothing else. We are
loyaled Art Okay, Studio city baby, all right, right, the
home land right there on Ventura Boulevard. Okay, that's where
it belongs, where it's always belongs, right there Art Deli
on Ventura Boulevards. Don't ever forget that.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Cole sixty two. Rich Man, Take it easy, buddy,
We'll talk to you later. By Jacole Wow Fox Sports Radio,
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Yep,

(31:27):
time now I find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. But guy's been called the Billy Idol
of Fox Sports Radio because in the eighties he had
real spiky blonde hair.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
It's Martin Weiss, ironically enough. The only song we're trying
to learn on guitar was like the intro in the
movie Billy Idol is the guy that walks adl Tchadler
in there and says, you know, in the first class,
they do whatever they want.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, So that was actually kind of fitting, kind of
weird out all ties together, and.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
It I know, sometimes it's almost like they did it
on purpose. I looked up just Roy greenfella fantastic, very
interesting young man. In a game in college at Henderson
State University in the Arkansaw Intercollegiate Conference, he once scored
three touchdowns not on offense, a ninety yard kick return,
sixty five yard punt return, and a forty yard interception return.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
And threw a football over the mountains. I'm not doing, Buddy.
In nineteen eighty one.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
While a normal player will participate in about sixty to
seventy snaps per game, or a green one hundred and
eight eat that Travis Hunter. He played offense, defense, and
four on special teams. And my man had two nicknames,
the Green Machine in college and the jet Stream in
the pros Now, most guys can't get one.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
No, now he's got. You can run that Travis Hunter
line from the end of Take that Travis hunt right,
the tame Is shoke of the night. Very nice. Yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Agent defensive vod Miller will enjoy the Commanders that are
reported one year deal with the picture of Champ Bailey
in a Washington uniform on his Instagram page. Earlier one
mob be All Star Game drew seventy two point seven
seventy two million b a pretty big number seven per
point two, big difference viewers on Fox, but still still

(33:16):
like the best rated All Star game of all four sports.
That's seven point two, so it was a good watch.
Three time NBA All Star Bradley Beial agreed to a
contract by with the Suns. He plans to join the
Clippers on a two year, eleven million dollar deal with
a player option. The Spurs shutting down Dylan Harper for
the remainder of Summer League.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
The Fever beat I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
The Liberty beat the Fever in ninety eight to seventy
seven Brianna Stewart with a twenty four point eleven rebound
double double. Fever had ruled out kateon Leclark before the
game with right groin pain in her status for All
Star weekend not yet been confirmed. Agel Wilson with a
thirty seven point ten rebound double doubles. The Aces beat
the Wings ninety to eighty six wins in the WNBA

(33:56):
for the Dream, the Linx and the Storm as they
head towards their all break. The Broncos have signed their
first round pick, quarterback John A. Baron to his rookie
deal that leaves the Bengals seventeenth overro pick Sjamar Stewart
the only unsigned first round pick for Maples Draft.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Chargers.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
Najie Harris will likely be in training camp with a
non football injury list after sustaining an eye injury during
the fourth of July firework mishap.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Now, I do have a question for you.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Guys that are taking back to you.

Speaker 7 (34:21):
Sure there have been two notable, very expensive buy out
people on this in this free agent you know cycle
here with DeAndre Ayton and Los Angeles and Bradley Beal
both coming to Los Angeles. How do both people who
get essentially laid off when they said, we'd rather pay

(34:42):
you to go somewhere else. How do both of those
guys get player options play? How do both those guys
get player options on their new teams? I just don't
understand it. It's just you know, maybe that was I'm sorry,
maybe less have a question more of event, but anyway,
back to you.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
There it is Roy Green archivist Martina.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Nicely done, and he asked a question of one of
two guys that had a no trade gun close.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
H you know, we'll answer that question coming up, but
straight ahead, Hey, let's just make this the whole NFL
Power Hour here. Coming up next, we got some upset
stars that want trades. Would you trade for them? That's
next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon Hobo. Thanks to Jason Cole for stopping by
getting extra sandwich out of us. But to close this
NFL Power Hour, yes, look the two big NFL stories
this week. Look, we have teams reporting now, reporting to
camp today because they the Hall of Fame games coming

(35:57):
up soon.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
But the two biggest stories this week that you know,
the Jets signing players, which is like, wow, doing the
right thing. But we got a couple of upset wide
receivers who want more money from their teams or they
want to get traded, and they're both pretty good. Terry
McLaurin of the Commanders and Juwan Jennings are the forty
nine ers. Both of them say, hey, I had good
year last year. I want to get paid or I

(36:21):
want to be traded. Twenty nine is not thirty. I
don't think that worked. You will get only the money
you deserve. Anything else, No, mister Kamiski. Thanks. Jennings seem
pretty insistent on wanting the new deal. Not sure if
he's going to sit out at camp or not, but
he seemed pretty insistent. McLaurin seem like, Hey, if my

(36:43):
time is over here, you tell me. If you don't
want to pay me, you tell me.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
So.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Of the two, they both seem like, hey, I'm going
to dig in on this. But McLaurin seems a little
bit more serie, a little bit more upset more. I
am going to dig in for this. And probably he's
got a little bit more cachet because he is the
number one.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
It's a team with yeah, good, great expectations his performance
right as opposed to Jennings, who's a cog in the machine. Yeah,
and the fact that he wasn't important but the last
man right, and you also the forty nine ers are saying,
this is a new era for us. We don't have
the championship aspirations like we have had in years past
because things are different now. We have to say goodbye

(37:24):
to a lot of players and pay a quarterback for
the Commanders. It's different because they they're saying, hey, we
were one we were one step away from the super Bowl?
Do we really want to blow this up? And McLaurin
I get that he's pushing his advantage. I like both
these guys. I say, you know what, if you don't
want to play here, I could trade you. I'm not
paying you. All right, there's the money they want, like
they see Garrett Wilson getting the money that he did.

(37:46):
Garrett Wilson's better than both of them. He's also twenty
four years old, and he's had a better last three
years in the NFL than any of them have had
in their best year. Okay, so number one, I'm a
little wary of guys that suddenly get great or or
have a big uptick when they're twenty eight, twenty nine
years old. I'm a little aware of that, like, why

(38:06):
weren't you doing it before? Okay, you had time to
get to the right system, I understand, but boy, you
really have one year where it's like, hey, it's pretty good.
And Jennings year was was good.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
It wasn't Oh my goodness, he's one hundred and ten
catches where he broke through. You know, McLaurin had a
little bit better year. But there's like fifteen wide receivers
in the NFL at least better than both of them,
and they want to get paid top seven, top eight money.
Not gonna do it. Wide receiver is a position where
I can replace one of these players with someone who
might almost be as good, and if I have a

(38:37):
good quarterback in place, I'm not gonna miss anything. But
there's some receivers I pay and some I don't. And
I'm not gonna pay a guy that's not a top
fifteen wide receiver top ten money because that's what both
of these guys.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
They don't think that change for McLaurin last year was
their red zone efficiency because you actually had a guy
that can throw the ball. Are their offensive line they've retooled,
like they bring and Deebo Samuel. There's a bunch of
changes that go on as you go into the next year.
And you know, some wanna take Jaden Daniel and say, well,
he'll obviously have a sophomore slump. Others, you know, are

(39:11):
crowning in uh, somewhere in between. The truth shall lie.
But mclaurin's numbers the five previous seasons, the four previous
seasons were pretty much identical in terms of receptions, yardage,
yards per completion. The only thing that was changed was
the touchdown. That doesn't suddenly make you a thirty four

(39:32):
million dollars a year receiver.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Doesn't. No, no, and and And that's the whole thing
is that these guys are good, and I get that
they're cogs and their machine. McLaurin a little bit bigger
for the commanders. But I just because you want money
doesn't mean and you want to push your advantage, doesn't
mean that it's smart business. I would say, hey, you
see what these guys see what these guys top fifteen
to twelve. I don't know if I don't know if

(39:55):
I'm thinking either of them as in the top twenty
wide receivers in the NFL that I would pay considering
their age and what their resumes are like, you've probably
got to put all of that into into the hopper
when you're saying, Okay, I'm gonna pay these guys. Neither
of those things work in their face.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I understand with Jennings because he's making what about eight
million dollars a year. It's a far cry from mclaurin's
twenty three plus.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome now,
despite the fact there's no baseball tonight. Yeah, you didn't
know today was such a big watershed day in the
sports industry. Did we have a big conversation coming up next?
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