November 22, 2025 • 41 mins
A big preview of the weekend includes Philly kids beating up pictures of the Cowboys and the Bucs taking on the Rams. CollegeFootballNews.com’s Pete Fiutak stops by and Rick Pitino shares a story of how the NBA gets cute with foreign scouting.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in Side Hour too, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Huh uh special delivery
Steve de Saga slide in for a few minutes as
we break down a big football Friday. But Steve, I
mean I want to know, are you okay being in
here doing the show while it's an NBA Cup night.
(00:51):
I mean, there's a lot of responsibility and it's an
NBA Cup night.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It also makes it harder work because I've got all
these courts on the screens in front of me that are.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Burning my retinas. If I may borrow a phrase.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, that's it's usually it's watching the Jets, like the color,
like all the different colors. The TV still has them
after all, because you have like five screens.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's like you when color TV was new in television
history and they just not just proud as a peacock
thing on NBC. I mean they really had to have everything,
like Brady Bunch, you know, as much color as we
can fashion anything, living room carpet, make it purple, whatever,
just for the episode. Here we've got a Utah jazz
(01:33):
court that is all purple and various shades of it,
and a Sun's court that is all orange, various shades
of it, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
All right, how long would you have to stare at
the multiple TVs in front of you until they all
coagulated into one pollock painting? Well, it is that much
of a mess? Yes, ninety minutes? Like how long until
like I can't even everything is the same now.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
The difference is this isn't haphazard. These have specific lines drawn.
Basketball is still being played on set courts. It's not
like somebody just you know, doubled the paint brush and
just you know, through flipped the brush and through the
paint on the canvas.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Isn't that quite some of some of those courts, Steve,
I don't know about that, man, I.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Think I disagree with maybe the Oregon College court. But
this for the NBA Cup, the precious NBA Cup that
you keep referring to, at least there's some sort of sanity.
It's still ninety four feet, it still has you know,
squared parts of the corners.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's not not quite a Jackson Pollock.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I wouldn't think, and I would wonder, and maybe the
great researcher Sarah Lang should find this, like is.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
They're more not her sports?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
But okay, but doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
She knows everything.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean, Sarah Lang said that she could find anything, Yes,
anything like.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Is there more? How do I say this?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, the general view you get of the NBA court,
what you know, the general mid court you know, mid
way up view that you get of the game, not
the low sideline or the replay angles, Like do you
get more of that look on an NBA Cup night
because the NBA wants to spotlight the courts than you
do in a regular night where it's not an NBA
(03:12):
Cup night.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I had not noticed that. Maybe it's just no.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I think it's just the color playing with us that
it just seems like we're getting too much color. But
still the camera is the same and at the same position.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
All right, I'm just making you goues. I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I'm like, oh man, but this is the I mean,
like the Dallas Mavericks are playing right now, and all
these shades of blue, nothing but ninety four feet of
blue on this except for, of course, the precious NBA
Cup Trophy at center court.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Can't miss that.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But it's like they're walking on water going from backcourt
to front court. In this It's like I'm say, is
this wood? Is this a basketball? What is this surface?
All of these and.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I do want to say you mentioned the game. I
mean there are players who are, hey, they know it's
an NBA Cup night.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I got to stay a Dallas game. Almost fight broke
out as we speak. Yeah, right now.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And there's players who are like, listen, it's an NBA
I don't care, no, but there's a Cooper flag is
one of those. It's an NBA Cup night. I'm stepping
up right. Missed the game earliest week for illness, a
career high for him in his rookie season, twenty nine
points in thirty two minutes twenty nine seven and five
assists and two steals as the Mavericks beat the Pelicans
(04:26):
one eighteen, one fifteen, and I mean in a battle
of two teams, the total of six wins.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Hey, Cooper Flag looks like, hey, that's the best game
of his pro career. That's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So Dallas was what four and twelve? They had four
wins in the entire season, which is about four weeks
at this point. But you know, this is precious, This
is this is different. This isn't some regular regular season
game you know everybody skips and nobody cares about because
it's the NBA.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Now it's sir, Yeah, it's something special.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And I think you can call the Pelicans Fortnite because
they win one on every two weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So she said fortnite. I'm thinking video game. But then
you know, you give me a second and a half
to think, Well.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
They get killed every night, just like you do in
Fortnite apparently, but you call fortnite because they win once
every two weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
By the way, the shoving is done, there was no
actual fight, but at the final buzzer the mass did
win by three, and it'll be another Fortnite until they
get a w perheads.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Now, this is why I'm a radio professional, because I
wanted to bring up the fight because this gets us
to the big NFL game of the week, in which
elementary school kids wanted to fight. At least they wanted
to fight. Pictures of the Dallas Cowboys a viral video
that's made the rounds over the course of the day.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Today.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
A local elementary school in Philadelphia, and you think this
was something from Abbott Elementary, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
By the way, they had an episode recently with Kyle Schwarber,
and they've had I believe an Eagles themed episode as well.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
They're really good on that.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
They mentioned sports all the time. Like the one teacher
who I forget what ment to was in the first
season when she says, yeah, you know my brother in
law who has to sleep on my couch right now
because he keeps losing money because he keeps back in
the Jets right like all of a sudden, like why
the Jets getting a drive by on? He keeps it's
your fault for betting the Jets some else.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It from his own personal experience, shoving it into the episode.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
And I lost a lot of money in the nineties
betting the Jets. Hey put it in the episode.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
A school in Philadelphia, has this. They put up stanchions
in the hallway. It's Eagles Cowboys week here, obviously, and
maybe the Eagles were sick and tired of the Cowboys
getting all the publicity because Cede Lamb was out lady
the casino may or may not have thrown up outside
and missed curfew. And now the story today that George
Pickens was benched for the beginning of the game, not
(06:50):
because he was at the casino, because he missed the
team bus. So now maybe the Eagles say, wait a minute,
we love controversy too. We love we swim in dysfunction,
and we do it better than the Cowboys do. So
this video comes out today of these of these elementary
school kids and they're all punching these big pictures of
the different Dallas Cowboys stars, which are on like padded
(07:13):
like when you picture a boxer punching, you know, working
out on the heavy bag, right, So that's kind of
what it was like. And these kids are just punching
these big pictures of all the cowboys play CD Lamb,
one kiddys going to one, kids going to town punching Dack's.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Face and I'm going, oh my god, this is insane.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
This is also peak Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
These are future season ticket holders.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. These are guys. Hey, how
are you doing. I'm on the list.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
My name should come up sometime in twenty thirty seven
for tickets.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I'm really excited to graduate college and be able to
go to that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And then you know, they'll get in a fight in
the upper deck and then they'll be on the list,
so to speak. They'll be headed to the Who's cow
they have there at the stadium.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You have tickets? I lost them. I had it for
a great three weeks. Then I got in a fight
and I got them. So three weeks you had them.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, this is kind of a glory era of Philadelphia
Eagles football. So any kid in Philly's area that is
growing up the enjoy at kids, It's not always like this.
It's kind of like what the Dallas Cowboys kids had
when they were growing up in the nineties. They thought
it would always be like this. Later thirty years later,
(08:23):
it's not at all like this. Philadelphia can win its
fifth game in a row if they get a win
at Dallas. That's one of the late afternoon games this Sunday.
But Philly is eight and two, and this is four
straight seasons they've been eight and two or better. That
had only happened once in the last thirty years in
the league. These are glory days for Philly.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I feel even better about them this weekend because of
the kids punching the pictures of Dak and Ceedee Lamb.
I thought they would win by forty already, because you know,
aj Brown is saying, I'm You're not the same player.
I guess Saquan's not the same player. Everybody hates everybody,
everybody hates Jalen Hurts, and it doesn't matter because all
the Eagles do is win, right like, and some teams
can thrive on controversy and some absolutely fall apart, and the.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Eagles have been thriving on it for the past couple
of seasons.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What Jerry Jones even said today, yet give me some
of that controversy, or give me some of that smoke
that the Eagles have. Yet we like that as well,
because look, the Cowboys do that too, right. The Cowboys
feed on they do it. They have a single day, no,
but they still they're comfortable in it. It's like, okay,
this is it's like putting on a nice sweater.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Oh I like this sweater. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean the Cowboys put on them their controversy sweater
all the time. They don't always win in it, but
you know it doesn't stop them because you know they're
comfortable in it. Like these two teams, these are two
teams like, yeah, hey, controversy, controversy great, great, great.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
What Dallas has been comfortable with this season is scoring
thirty points and giving up thirty points because until they
actually got to play the Raiders offense, which is putrid.
This past week, Dallas had the worst defense in the NFC.
Now it's technically Washington is the lowest ranked defense. The
Cowboys quote only give up about three hundred and eighty
(10:03):
total yards per game. That's an average game against Dallas
this year is getting almost four hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, and I would normally say, well, even the best teams,
a team like the Eagle, you know, the champs coming back,
are gonna get a little bit of a bounce, a
little bit of a flat game coming off the effort
they put up against the Lions, where suddenly their defense
looks like we're a super Bowl caliber defense again, Like,
look at what they did to the Lions. Last week,
but that ain't happening this week. It's Dallas week. It's
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a chance to put to really put a stamp and
basically say, hey man, once we get past Thanksgiving, we're
gonna clinch the NFC East.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
We're gonna be We're gonna be fine. We're gonna have
a four game lead after this week. I love the Eagles.
I love the Eagles big. In this game.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The Cowboys have been riding high. Yeah, they'll score some points,
but the Eagles will do well enough. Jalen Hurts will
have a big day. Throw in the football. Oh you
hate me this week? Wait till I go for three
hundred and three touchdowns. I'll show you all about this.
The Eagles controversy great in the Cowboys controversy.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
I know it's on the road.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But Philadelphia wins this game to they're better team, that
they're better in these kind of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
They win this one, even if the offense has largely
been disappointing by their standards. But Philadelphia did what it
needed to do in the fourth quarter of that home
game against the Rams this year, and that might be
by the end of the season, the key game in
the entire NFC, because that might be the one game
that gives the Eagles the one seed and a first
(11:26):
round by The Eagles are eight and two right now.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The Rams are eight and two right now.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
If the season ended right now, Eagles would have the
one seed because of the head to head win over LA.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
You mentioned the Rams. What are the other big games
of the week?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Right, we get the Bucks and the Rams and Mayfield
and Stafford, And these are two teams that are both
really talented, but both completely moving in different directions.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Los Angeles generally not a first half of the NFL
season team. Generally they're a team the last few years
and hey, they're three and five. I don't know about them.
Then all of the US sudden, hey wait there ten
and five, like that's rim. But this year it's different,
and they've won five in a row. They're eight and two.
Tampa Bay has really hit the skids the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
And the injuries caught up with them.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Baker Mayfield made it work for a while, you know,
but look, you lose Mike Evans, no Chris Goblinal, though
Chris Godwin's coming back. Eventually, you're gonna have to start
paying for that, and I you realize that even though
guys like Sean Tucker can have big games out of
the backfield, the guy that Mayfield's missed the most has
been Bucky Irving.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Right, He's still gonna be a valve out of the back.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, it's been it's been tough, and Bucky Irving's been
out for those games. Right, Because you watch Baker Mayfield
on these big drives and games at the end of games,
what does he do checks down to Bucky Irving, who
will get you ten or twelve yards on a big
third and seven play.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
He's the big safety valve. They've missed him.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And I like what I saw last week, and I
was I was right on last week. I said, listen,
you're gonna get a lot of points against the Bills,
but the Bills are gonna pull this out at home
because they're the home team. And that's exactly what happened.
You're gonna see the same type of thing this week
where Tampa Bay is gonna play pretty well.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
You're gonna think well of them.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But the Rams defense is just too good. The Rams
are gonna win this game to go to nine and two.
They're the better team, right, now they have a lot
more things going on, and they're a lot healthier than
Tampa Bay is. The injury are just really caught up
to them, and they still have a lot of big
guys out, even though they're likely gonna get god Win
back this week. It's another week for the Rams and
we're gonna not believe in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But
(13:26):
like Chris Berman used to say at the end of primetime,
better days ahead for this team. Like like at the
end of primetime when a team lose, like go to
two and fourteen, two and fourteen, But better days ahead
for the Jets in the offseason, like better days ahead
the rest of this year for the Bucks. Because it's
still the nf The NFC South is still gonna be
theirs for the taking because the rest of the teams
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are terrible. This is gonna be one more difficult week
before they get things back, get back into divisional play
and win the NFC South. But the Rams keep that
truck moving.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And I guess better days ahead for every team, assuming
they don't fold. It's how many days ahead you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
But I think the.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Rams defense is still not talked about enough. They only
average seventeen points a game given up per contest, which
is very impressive. I just mentioned Dallas for most of
the season has been giving up thirty points a game. However,
as good as the Rams are, and they are good,
they're getting a little bit of the injury bug now.
Fortunately they seem to play fifty two tight ends every week,
(14:27):
so nobody's gonna miss Higby. But as far as being
a good team, it still amazes me that the kicking
game is that unreliable place kicking I'm talking about. They
have two kickers, and it's kind of like the quarterback situation.
When you have two you have none. I still say
the Rams have none in that department.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
The Rams have allowed the fewest points in the NFL
this year, with one hundred and seventy two. Okay, just
off the top of your head, how many more points
do you think the Cowboys have allowed?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
My god, Rams, off the top of your head, same
number of games, how many more points of the Cowboys
allowed in the Rams?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Ninety hundred over one hundred, one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
They've allowed one hundred and twenty one more points than
the Rams this year.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
You remember the Cowboys had a forty to forty game.
At one point they had that crazy Giants game early
season which was forty to thirty seven.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Uh So there you go, two of the biggest games
of the week in the NFL. You got the Cowboys
and the Eagles, Tampa Bay and the Rams. We got
more of the big NFL preview coming up, but straight ahead,
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Speaker 6 (17:35):
Right now he has a drone fine over late Lane.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Kiffin's house, so we will know if there are any
movements between now and the egg ball.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
It's Pete fu Tech. What's happening? Man? I you know what, we.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Should all be lane Kiffing. That'd be fun, you know,
I mean you get to you know, do I choose
between being you know, generational wealthy for like ten rounds
of my family or twenty.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Like it's not that, you know, I like Pete.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I really like the fact that the way both of
these both sides are dealing with this. Lane Kiffin's not
running from it. He's not doing a Nick Saban. Guys,
I'm not going to Alabama. And then two days later
he's at Alabama and Mississippi is like, Okay, this is
how it's being done in college football. This is how
coaches get poached, and we want a decision, and we're
going to get something. The day after the egg Bowl.
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That being said, I can't believe the day after the
Egg Bowl we're not going to find out that Lane
Kiffin's going someplace else. And the only question is, really
does he coach through the playoff or do they replace
him going into it?
Speaker 7 (18:34):
I mean, this is sticky because like that's about as
low rent as a guess. Like from all sides, if
you did it, you keep preaching, you know, buy in,
buy in, buy in, tell your players and everyone to
come to Old Miss. And everyone's smart. Everyone knows coaches
leave and players leave and all that kind of stuff.
But you're in the college football playoff with a chance
(18:55):
for the national championship. Like, really, you're gonna get that
coach in a bowl game? Okay, that that's a little
you know, bad, but okay, fine, but not coaching in
the college football playoffs when you have a shot at
the national title. So if this does, he's gonna leave
for somewhere, either Florida or LSU probably, And like if Florida,
(19:15):
LSU or they're gonna say, you know, we're gonna pay
you one hundred jillion dollars, come start, you know, doing
your job for us. But really what they should do
is say, hey, look, coach to the Bowl, you go
to the playoff until a few weeks, and then start
from there. My guess is that's going to be kind
of what has to happen, because man, that's just that's
just a pr stunt. That's just about as low as
(19:35):
it gets that you would not you know, give your
team a take the shot at coaching in the National championship.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
I think it's just the interesting thing. He used his
running back as a prop. We're talking ninety million dollars
the rumor number there at LSU.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
But is he waiting for some other coaching job to open.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
I mean I think honestly, yeah, I mean it's you know,
good luck with that because you know, doesn't win a
national championship yet, and he's already on the hot seat.
So it's a you know, it's that's if you want that. Hey,
you're bringing on and all your lane kiffness. Let's see
if this all works.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You know.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
So, Okay, he's the hot coach going and I've I'm
a huge fan. I've always thought, you know, he's actually
under raked if you kind of think about it, you know,
he's he's kind of always been in sort of a
strange weird underdog role. I mean, USC was you know,
hit with the Reggie Bush penalties when he was there.
Never really got a chance to open it all up
in Tennessee. He was there for one year at the
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best year of the program had in a while, and
then left for the US. He got job, which at
the time looked like a bigger gig. So you know,
nothing is all missed, but it's not doesn't have the
money done, know the resources. It's not LSU or Florida
or you know, one of these other gigs you might take.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
All right, So if I said to you Pete, all right,
I'm going to Vegas. I got a lot of money.
I'm putting it on. What for Lane Kiff in the
day after the egg Bowl? What do we find out?
Do we find out where he's going, what.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Do we get?
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I think my guess would be probably LSU first, Florida one,
be one of those two, and I would get again,
I maybe it's just me and this is you know whatever,
I'm just you know, just a simple what writer who
you know talks about these things. I there's no way
he does this in his until like after the college
(21:18):
Football Playoffs, And I think that would be his announcements, like,
because you look, if you're Lane Kiffin, you know you
you're in control. Here they're trying to pitch you. So
this is on Kiffin. You know, he's got to be
the one to say I am you know, yes, I'm
taking your job, but not after I not until after
I finished the drow of these guys.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
So who's the consolation prize to the team that doesn't
get to Lane Kiffin?
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean the problem is you
never know. I mean I could just throw out names
like John Summall from Tulane would be a good one,
you know, just because he kind of had the tie
ins in the area and he's doing a good job
of Tulaine. He might go to the college football playoff.
And you know, certainly there are a whole slew of
you know names out there who might not be known
to the know the mass public. You know, missus Charles
(22:02):
hof who you know last year took Marshall to win
the Sun Belt and so they miss was awful and
uh then took took Southern missing. He might take them
to the Sun Built Championship. You know, Signetti Light the bat.
You know, the new coach James Madison's doing a great job.
I mean there's all sorts of names like that, but
you never know until you get the guy in the
building and let him rumble, because you can always say, Okay,
(22:25):
this is a perfect fit. Like Lincoln Riley is the
perfect fit for USC, and you know he's doing a
good job. But has he blown it up like we
thought he wouldn't know? You know, you just never quite
know who has that kind of right mix because sometimes
you know you're Scott Frost at UCF and sometimes you're
Scott Frost at Nebraska. It just doesn't quite work the
what you want.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
All right, Pete, Let's get to the game of the
day tomorrow, USC and Oregon. Everything on the line for
the Trojans. Basically they can make the College Football Playoff
with a win. Oregon's a big favorite. But I'll tell
you what, Pete, I just have a sneaking suspicion USC
plays their best game tomorrow. And we're talking about Lincoln
Riley believing in him again, like their offense has been
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so good all year long. I just have a feeling
we're going to get a big game from offensively because
Oregon's had trouble, right, they had trouble with Indiana's offense
earlier this year.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I just feel like we're going to get a big
win from USC tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
You with me against me on that, and.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
It's kept with you, except I think it's coming from
the defense. I hope that is going to give the
pressure to Dante more. And look to your point, you
know who who's Oregon being this is actually goes to
the Big Ten this year? I mean, you know, Ohio
State tomorrow when they play Rutgers, that's gonna be their
fifth straight game against the team. It's not going bowling.
You know, look at the the you know the schedule
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for Oregon. You're right, they did lose. They played two
really good teams. Indiana obviously he was really good, and
they lost by tenant home, and they struggled against Iowa
like you said, you know, he struggled against Penn State.
You know, you know, rolling up Minnesota is nice, but
Minnesota's not that good. I'm with you. Either it's either
goes one of two ways. Like you said, I think
I'm picking USC outright this so I'm with you, or
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it's just Oregon comes in, it's like, all right, now
we're gonna take our game up with you know, five
more notches and just you know, shows like okay, well
that's Oregon. Okay, they're they're in. But the funny part
about this is, though you kind of started out all right,
so let's say USC does win, you know, and they're
still gonna beat UCLA, which you know, let's assume if
Nico's back, you know, weird things after that thing. But okay,
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so if USC is, that means Oregon's out, you know,
if I guess right at that point, But like, who's that?
I mean, someone in this mix has to be out.
And this is gonna get really quirky because there's a
lot of teams who think they're gonna be and like
you you know, I'm on the Twitter machine a lot
pretty much BYU fans all think they're in the college
(24:55):
football playoffs and I'm not. I don't have the energy
right now to be like, I don't know, I don't
think you are Miami. Thing. The fans are like, well,
you know, nore names in, Well we beat notre games,
should we be in? And like yeah, actually, how that
should work? Not going to work, So there's a lot
of lot of angst out there. And then the other
(25:16):
X factor involved here. Let's see if if a MISZOI,
you know, can knock off Oklahoma tomorrow when they have
it now that they have their quarterback back, who knows
or maybe maybe what happens if Michigan wins out, what
happens if they do it again? And then ten and
two Michigan's got to be in. So there's a whole
lot of things that can still happen out there.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
Yeah, certainly, coming off the the last rankings, I think
you probably had some meetings in the state of Utah
saying what do they have against us? As you got
two teams that get bounced based on the way the
rankings and and the way this is set up. But
you mentioned the Missouri Oklahoma game. Oklahoma with a narrow
win over Alabama a week ago. Is this one where
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Hardy and company can run over them a bit?
Speaker 7 (25:58):
I think I think Oklahoma gets done. I mean, look,
nobody beats mac teams like Maszoo. But when it's time,
you know, prime time, and they got to beat the
big ones, doesn't quite happen. They always play well and
then all of a sudden something strange happens and doesn't
quite work like they wanted it too. So I think
Oklahoma wins, but I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be
(26:19):
shocked if Oklahoma, you know, blows it did either get
to Maszoo or LSU. I still think there are a
couple curve balls in here that we're not seeing quite yet.
So yeah, I kind of think Oklahoma wins tomorrow, but
I do think that's gonna be one of the more
fun games of the day.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I keep looking and it's one of those things where
you don't realize how far they fall and in such
a short period of time. But tomorrow top twenty five game,
ye have Arizona State and Colorado. Colorado at three and seven.
Things just have gone absolutely downhill for Dion Sanders. Now,
obviously this I think they're gonna say at the end
of this year, they're gonna go okay, because look, they're
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not going to finish last in the Big twelve because
Oklahoma State. He kind of owns that spot right now.
But I wonder, I factor this year it's going to
be Dion's gonna prove it or he's out in Colorado
next year, because it's it's gone from the September of
his first year and everything's been downhill from there.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Pete, Yeah, No, I mean, or you know, like I
keep kind of saying, I'm sticking by my thing that
you know, we're going to see him flounder this week.
I still say should door standards is possibly the most
underappreciated college quarterback. I mean, he had a historic run
with his you know, accuracy you play, but like all
of a sudden, you know, you don't have any more
family members, you know, here it can help the cause out,
(27:37):
and you know they cannot seem to find the right mix,
and it's I love Deon. You know I said this before.
The problem is sometimes you have to build foundations. You
can't just go the transfer portal route, you know, touch
this text for example, they had a great base already,
they had good players, they had veterans, and then they
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use the transfer portal in nil to pay for all
the guys who just kind of took them up another
few notches as opposed to doing wholesale changes where you're
trying to do it all from the transfer portal, which
is really hard to do. But you're right, I mean,
this has just been a bad year and they just
don't look like abel One. They're not doing anything right.
They just they don't have the infrastructure. Their lines just
(28:19):
have not been good enough. They got away with it
with the Chadur and some of the talents of the
last few years not happened in this year.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know, I almost feel like Pete sometimes when you
have when coaches or quarterbacks have a surprise amount of
success right away, and you know, Dion going into Colorado
and reshaping the program, all.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Of that, and you could call it a success because
of what he did to the program and the attention.
Absolutely you to follow up on that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You don't really know how to do it because you expect, well,
how he did it last year is how it's going
to work, and you don't know how to navigate all
the mind fields ahead. And because you had too much
success too early, some people can't deal with that and
figure out how to sustain it.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah, And part of the problem them is is then
everyone expects it right away and you know, again you
have to have you have to build it up, you
need recruiting classes, you need I mean, and they're trying
to do this fast and I get it, and I
kind of I was a fan of the way Deon
did it when he first started was he basically walked
into the room and said, you guys aren't good enough.
I'm going to get better players. And it's great, you know,
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if you're a fan of Colorado football, that's kind of
what you want. As harsh as it is for the
players who are there, the problem has been they just
haven't been able to have the continuity there. They just
haven't been able to figure out how to get like
I said, get the lines together. That's like the hardest
piece to put I've asked coaches about this and they
always kind of say the thing. It's just to find
five guys for that offensive line. It's just like the
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hardest thing to do because it's you got to you
got to get the guys who can play metton Well
and Nesh together and you have to have the right
offensive line coach and oh and Colorado's has not been
able to do that yet.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
So what lawsuits and pay out to have been the
fun thing for LSU. The the Brian Kelly thing might
be the most fun. But beyond Lane Kiffin, I mean,
Lane Kiffin's interesting. We got nora ed trackers at all.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
But now that you.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Didn't really fire me, a ton of scenario going on here.
This is fun.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Pete an educated I'm an educated man. I don't get
this one. So, like, did you fire Brian Kelly? Did
you not fire him? Did he leave? I didn't certainly
didn't seem like he left on his own. Uh So,
I'm I'm kind of tried to figure this one out.
I'm not sure what LSU standing. It's like, you know,
(30:36):
like the James Franklin thing was pretty crispin Klean, like,
go get another job and you know everyone's gonna get paid.
You know, everything will be all right. Franklin did okay,
boom boom boom done. But you know it's Brian Kelly.
It's just there's never anything easy when it comes to
this guy. And by the way, because you know we
you know, just bring it all together. Remember he took
that LSU job when Notre Dame was still in the
(30:58):
mix for the college football play. It wasn't a done
deal yet, and that was that was like, you know,
that's you know me, I'm going to biff the line.
I don't do mean machine well, but like that's just
an American. You know, it's just you don't you do
whatever you want, but you don't leave your team with
guys shot at the college football playoff and you know
that's what he did then, and certainly you know so
I don't think Alane's going to do this now. It's
(31:19):
just it's a little bit too low rent. But hey, look,
if you're LSU, they apparently have a whole lot of
money somewhere for these coaches. And I know there are
people in me who like education that you know, state
and school aren't so pleased about this. But okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
He's on Twitter at Pete few Tech. That is, at
Pete feutech college footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping
for everything college football. All the picks, all the prognostications,
all the previews, all the analysis you want, done by
the man you just heard.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
He is pt tech. Do you enjoy the guys, man,
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
I'm going guys, see you money.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
There goes Pete feud Tech.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Time out of trying to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
On a big NBA night from the NBA Cup Series,
Steve de Sager Steve and.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
A little college football as well.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
NC State a home winner against Florida State twenty one eleven.
Seminoles were not good, four turnovers, missed, two field goal attempts.
Florida State two and six in the ACC, and we've
got a game on FS one. Right now, it's Hawaii
seven and three at UNLV eight and two, Vegas leading
seventeen to seven mid second quarter. Now of the NBA
is Brooklyn, which was two and twelve this season, got
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to win at Boston one thirteen to one oh five.
Nick Claxton a triple double. Toronto won forty to one
ten over Washington Washington Wizards one in fourteen. Now Indiana
falls to two and fourteen after losing at Cleveland. Cavs
won twenty to one oh nine. Miami and Dallas each one.
Currently it's the Timberwolves in the final seconds leading at
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Phoenix one thirteen to one twelve. Houston, with under nine
minutes left, is ahead of the Nuggets. That's a ninety
two eighty seven at the moment, and Oklahoma City has
a fifteen to one record, but trails at Utah mid
third quarter eighty four eighty one. No doubt blinded by
the purple court. College basketball, number one Perdue is blowing
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away fifteenth ranked Texas Tech that scores seventy six forty
seven with about four minutes left. Perdue in the lead.
Already wins for Louisville and BYU. In women's hoops Notre
Dame USC sixty one to fifty nine on a late basket,
and number one Connecticut played on Fox TV tonight, edging
number six Michigan seventy two sixty nine. Just four NHL
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games tonight, Bruins early second period scoreless at La Buffalo,
nine to three winners over Chicago. Minnesota won in a
five to nothing shutout at Pittsburgh, Carolina, a four to
three winner at Winnipeg.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'll tell you this,
if Utah beats the thunder tonight, every team play in
Oklahoma City the rest of the way going to paint
that court purple for the game.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
We found the only thing that slow them down. Just
paint the court purple. What do we have, Just brush
paint it. I don't care. Just get purple on there.
Speaker 10 (34:05):
But it was your own pink locker rooms right in
Iowa and all those other things you try to find
your advantage.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Speaking of basketball, we have more NFL more college football
on the way, but straight ahead a crazy basketball story
tonight that involves Phil Jackson, the Knicks, Rick Patino. Do
we need more than that? Oh no, that's next right here,
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up in about ten minutes. Two more big games in
the NFL to take a look at. But uh, you
know this is this story from the NBA today. This
(35:18):
is this is just just a cherry on top of
your Sunday that you need.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
You really didn't want me sending that along.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Now, No, no, no, no, but again I'm not surprised,
and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
So.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Saint John's head coach, Rick Patino, who once was the
head coach of the New York Knicks, is also once
head coach of Louisville, once the head coach of Donovan Mitchell.
He went on a podcast today and he said, you know,
when the Knicks were picking in the draft and Dono
of Mitchell was coming out, I begged them to take
Donovan Mitchell. I said, hey, this guy's great. Take Donovan
(35:49):
Mitchell and Phil Jackson. The Knicks told him no. Here's
Rick Patino relaying that story.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
So I called the Knicks they had the seventh pick.
I called him up and said, listen, take take my
guy Downovan Mitchell. He's going to kill it. And he said, no,
I don't know. I don't know if we could take
him that high. Seven. They wound up taking Frank Nicoletti
or Nicola Nicolina.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
They could have had done him at seven. They couldn't
take him.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
It was too high, but they took Frank.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I think Frank Nicoletti is a comedian. I think I
saw him on Chelsea lately a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I think he was there.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
So they did get Frank Nitakuino, who was the guard
from France that Phil Jackson took, because you know, that's
the thing about Phil is that he is completely one
of the what he ran the Knicks and he was
making decisions. He was I'm the smartest guy in the room,
and I'm gonna take these guys right now. It worked
out with a guy like Porzingis who didn't want to stay,
and then Nikina it didn't work out, and they could
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have had Donovan Mitchell. Uh and Niakina. We found his
way out of the league. But I'm not surprised because
Phil Jackson. The one thing Phil Jackson loves more than
anything else in the world is big guards. He loves
big guards. And Niakina had the big wing span. He
was a great defensive player, and Phil thought he was
gonna be the next great two way guard. So yeah,
I'm taking him instead of Spider Mitchell or Frank Nicoletti
(37:08):
or you Knowino throws out there, throw in shade but
that is typical mix. Now I do want to say
this as well. It's not like the Knicks were the
only team you think. Rick Patino is the only team
he called to take Donovan Mitchell was the Knicks.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Everybody else could have taken him.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Everybody else could have taken him, right, everybody else could
have taken Steph Curry. Everybody else could. But no it's
the Knicks, and and Phil Jackson stunk running the Knicks.
So this is what we do. But yeah, this is
a typical on brand nick story. Oh we had this
great star we could have gotten. Noa noa, No, it's
not like we took another guy. We're gonna take a
chance at a stab in the dark to take a
player from France, and we have no idea how his
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game is gonna relate to to the NBA. Right, we
think we do, but we don't. We see him against
competition where we're not sure how to measure it. And
and this is just absolutely maddening. Like I feel like
teams now do that and they dip into the foreign
market because they want to feel like, hey, we've done
our homework and if we hit on this guy, we
(38:08):
look like geniuses.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
We look like.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Absolute gene because we're taking somebody that nobody knows becomes
a really good player and we think he's the next
Luca or he could be at very at least the
next Ricky Rubio, and we wind up with a guy
for a decade or a decade plus, but everybody thinks
they're so smart. We're going to go do this rather
than take a college guy that, ah, maybe he's a
little bit smaller, maybe he's not gonna be able to
play defensive way he wants it to.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
We find a way to not like him.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
But yeah, if we go overseas for a guy, we
look like the smartest guys in the world because we
know something that nobody else did. And I really do
think that's a that's part of a psychology when when
teams make picks like this and make big decisions in
the draft, they want to show we are smarter than
everybody else. And Phil Jackson did that all the time
when he was running the knicks on the Lakers.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Well go back to when he was with the Bulls
and how they would go overseas on the legend of
Tony Kukoach great but certainly one of many guys in
that era that was drafted on the wish and to
hope that being battle tested by playing professional ball at
a young age, they come right in and physically and
mentally be ready for the wear and tear of the NBA.
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Some huge hits, some huge misses along the way. In
this particular case, well, we know what history says. And
for Rick Patino, he gets to take a little bit
of a victory lap here for his guy, now, Frank Nicoletti. Funny,
we let's get to him for a second. From nineteen
sixty three to nineteen sixty six, three years as a
point guard for your Syracuse Orange. What years sixty three
(39:41):
to sixty six?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So he played with Dave He must have played with
Dave Bing sixty nine games played.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Yeah, okay, that must have been with Dave Bing.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Roomed with Dave Bing his sophomore year.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Oh wow, I have the first white athlete at Syracuse to.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Room with a black athlete.
Speaker 10 (39:57):
Woe is part of a law firm that has been
going now for forty years. You think Patino knows Frank
Nicolette and called him after Hey, I just gave you
an financial shout out, tadcast.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Maybe you get a client or two coming out of this.
Speaker 10 (40:14):
I don't know it's insurance law for the last forty years.
Graduate from Syracuse sixty six and then Suffolk University in
nineteen seventy, but yeah, there it is.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
He was known for his hustle.
Speaker 10 (40:27):
That's how big and nerd I am, like, all right,
there's got to be someone here with the name Frank
Nicoletti that matters, that would show up and give us
some content. And sure enough, six degrees of separation, no
one directly to Syracuse.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
They took Frank.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Nicoletti, who was a sixty eight year old lawyer out
of Wow. Okay, that's a big pick for Phil Jackson
in the Knicks taking Frank Nicoletti.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
He averaged about three points in game for his three
years there.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Oh boy, well that was about what Frank Nitokina average
for this.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
So it's not a.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Pretty much one to one right there, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Exit out bout a Fresca exit to hold them. I
love that the Knicks had like four chances to get
Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
Nope, nope, nope, I can't get him, get go. Danny
Ainge kept him away. Phil jack No, no, no, just go.
Speaker 10 (41:17):
Back to that draft as a whole though, right, I mean,
you got Tatum and Fox and marketing. Uh, and then
a lot of question marks along the way.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Coming up next, we get back into our football Friday,
we preview two of the biggest games in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in Side Hour too, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Huh uh special delivery
Steve de Saga slide in for a few minutes as
we break down a big football Friday. But Steve, I
mean I want to know, are you okay being in
here doing the show while it's an NBA Cup night.
(00:51):
I mean, there's a lot of responsibility and it's an
NBA Cup night.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It also makes it harder work because I've got all
these courts on the screens in front of me that are.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Burning my retinas. If I may borrow a phrase.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, that's it's usually it's watching the Jets, like the color,
like all the different colors. The TV still has them
after all, because you have like five screens.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It's like you when color TV was new in television
history and they just not just proud as a peacock
thing on NBC. I mean they really had to have everything,
like Brady Bunch, you know, as much color as we
can fashion anything, living room carpet, make it purple, whatever,
just for the episode. Here we've got a Utah jazz
(01:33):
court that is all purple and various shades of it,
and a Sun's court that is all orange, various shades
of it, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
All right, how long would you have to stare at
the multiple TVs in front of you until they all
coagulated into one pollock painting? Well, it is that much
of a mess? Yes, ninety minutes? Like how long until
like I can't even everything is the same now.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
The difference is this isn't haphazard. These have specific lines drawn.
Basketball is still being played on set courts. It's not
like somebody just you know, doubled the paint brush and
just you know, through flipped the brush and through the
paint on the canvas.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Isn't that quite some of some of those courts, Steve,
I don't know about that, man, I.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Think I disagree with maybe the Oregon College court. But
this for the NBA Cup, the precious NBA Cup that
you keep referring to, at least there's some sort of sanity.
It's still ninety four feet, it still has you know,
squared parts of the corners.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's not not quite a Jackson Pollock.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I wouldn't think, and I would wonder, and maybe the
great researcher Sarah Lang should find this, like is.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
They're more not her sports?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
But okay, but doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
She knows everything.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean, Sarah Lang said that she could find anything, Yes,
anything like.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Is there more? How do I say this?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, the general view you get of the NBA court,
what you know, the general mid court you know, mid
way up view that you get of the game, not
the low sideline or the replay angles, Like do you
get more of that look on an NBA Cup night
because the NBA wants to spotlight the courts than you
do in a regular night where it's not an NBA
(03:12):
Cup night.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I had not noticed that. Maybe it's just no.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I think it's just the color playing with us that
it just seems like we're getting too much color. But
still the camera is the same and at the same position.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
All right, I'm just making you goues. I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I'm like, oh man, but this is the I mean,
like the Dallas Mavericks are playing right now, and all
these shades of blue, nothing but ninety four feet of
blue on this except for, of course, the precious NBA
Cup Trophy at center court.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Can't miss that.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But it's like they're walking on water going from backcourt
to front court. In this It's like I'm say, is
this wood? Is this a basketball? What is this surface?
All of these and.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I do want to say you mentioned the game. I
mean there are players who are, hey, they know it's
an NBA Cup night.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I got to stay a Dallas game. Almost fight broke
out as we speak. Yeah, right now.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And there's players who are like, listen, it's an NBA
I don't care, no, but there's a Cooper flag is
one of those. It's an NBA Cup night. I'm stepping
up right. Missed the game earliest week for illness, a
career high for him in his rookie season, twenty nine
points in thirty two minutes twenty nine seven and five
assists and two steals as the Mavericks beat the Pelicans
(04:26):
one eighteen, one fifteen, and I mean in a battle
of two teams, the total of six wins.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Hey, Cooper Flag looks like, hey, that's the best game
of his pro career. That's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So Dallas was what four and twelve? They had four
wins in the entire season, which is about four weeks
at this point. But you know, this is precious, This
is this is different. This isn't some regular regular season
game you know everybody skips and nobody cares about because
it's the NBA.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Now it's sir, Yeah, it's something special.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And I think you can call the Pelicans Fortnite because
they win one on every two weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
So she said fortnite. I'm thinking video game. But then
you know, you give me a second and a half
to think, Well.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
They get killed every night, just like you do in
Fortnite apparently, but you call fortnite because they win once
every two weeks.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
By the way, the shoving is done, there was no
actual fight, but at the final buzzer the mass did
win by three, and it'll be another Fortnite until they
get a w perheads.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Now, this is why I'm a radio professional, because I
wanted to bring up the fight because this gets us
to the big NFL game of the week, in which
elementary school kids wanted to fight. At least they wanted
to fight. Pictures of the Dallas Cowboys a viral video
that's made the rounds over the course of the day.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Today.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
A local elementary school in Philadelphia, and you think this
was something from Abbott Elementary, but it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
By the way, they had an episode recently with Kyle Schwarber,
and they've had I believe an Eagles themed episode as well.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
They're really good on that.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
They mentioned sports all the time. Like the one teacher
who I forget what ment to was in the first
season when she says, yeah, you know my brother in
law who has to sleep on my couch right now
because he keeps losing money because he keeps back in
the Jets right like all of a sudden, like why
the Jets getting a drive by on? He keeps it's
your fault for betting the Jets some else.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
It from his own personal experience, shoving it into the episode.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
And I lost a lot of money in the nineties
betting the Jets. Hey put it in the episode.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
A school in Philadelphia, has this. They put up stanchions
in the hallway. It's Eagles Cowboys week here, obviously, and
maybe the Eagles were sick and tired of the Cowboys
getting all the publicity because Cede Lamb was out lady
the casino may or may not have thrown up outside
and missed curfew. And now the story today that George
Pickens was benched for the beginning of the game, not
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because he was at the casino, because he missed the
team bus. So now maybe the Eagles say, wait a minute,
we love controversy too. We love we swim in dysfunction,
and we do it better than the Cowboys do. So
this video comes out today of these of these elementary
school kids and they're all punching these big pictures of
the different Dallas Cowboys stars, which are on like padded
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like when you picture a boxer punching, you know, working
out on the heavy bag, right, So that's kind of
what it was like. And these kids are just punching
these big pictures of all the cowboys play CD Lamb,
one kiddys going to one, kids going to town punching Dack's.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Face and I'm going, oh my god, this is insane.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
This is also peak Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
These are future season ticket holders.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. These are guys. Hey, how
are you doing. I'm on the list.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
My name should come up sometime in twenty thirty seven
for tickets.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I'm really excited to graduate college and be able to
go to that.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And then you know, they'll get in a fight in
the upper deck and then they'll be on the list,
so to speak. They'll be headed to the Who's cow
they have there at the stadium.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You have tickets? I lost them. I had it for
a great three weeks. Then I got in a fight
and I got them. So three weeks you had them.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Well, this is kind of a glory era of Philadelphia
Eagles football. So any kid in Philly's area that is
growing up the enjoy at kids, It's not always like this.
It's kind of like what the Dallas Cowboys kids had
when they were growing up in the nineties. They thought
it would always be like this. Later thirty years later,
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it's not at all like this. Philadelphia can win its
fifth game in a row if they get a win
at Dallas. That's one of the late afternoon games this Sunday.
But Philly is eight and two, and this is four
straight seasons they've been eight and two or better. That
had only happened once in the last thirty years in
the league. These are glory days for Philly.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I feel even better about them this weekend because of
the kids punching the pictures of Dak and Ceedee Lamb.
I thought they would win by forty already, because you know,
aj Brown is saying, I'm You're not the same player.
I guess Saquan's not the same player. Everybody hates everybody,
everybody hates Jalen Hurts, and it doesn't matter because all
the Eagles do is win, right like, and some teams
can thrive on controversy and some absolutely fall apart, and the.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Eagles have been thriving on it for the past couple
of seasons.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What Jerry Jones even said today, yet give me some
of that controversy, or give me some of that smoke
that the Eagles have. Yet we like that as well,
because look, the Cowboys do that too, right. The Cowboys
feed on they do it. They have a single day, no,
but they still they're comfortable in it. It's like, okay,
this is it's like putting on a nice sweater.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Oh I like this sweater. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean the Cowboys put on them their controversy sweater
all the time. They don't always win in it, but
you know it doesn't stop them because you know they're
comfortable in it. Like these two teams, these are two
teams like, yeah, hey, controversy, controversy great, great, great.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
What Dallas has been comfortable with this season is scoring
thirty points and giving up thirty points because until they
actually got to play the Raiders offense, which is putrid.
This past week, Dallas had the worst defense in the NFC.
Now it's technically Washington is the lowest ranked defense. The
Cowboys quote only give up about three hundred and eighty
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total yards per game. That's an average game against Dallas
this year is getting almost four hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, and I would normally say, well, even the best teams,
a team like the Eagle, you know, the champs coming back,
are gonna get a little bit of a bounce, a
little bit of a flat game coming off the effort
they put up against the Lions, where suddenly their defense
looks like we're a super Bowl caliber defense again, Like,
look at what they did to the Lions. Last week,
but that ain't happening this week. It's Dallas week. It's
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a chance to put to really put a stamp and
basically say, hey man, once we get past Thanksgiving, we're
gonna clinch the NFC East.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
We're gonna be We're gonna be fine. We're gonna have
a four game lead after this week. I love the Eagles.
I love the Eagles big. In this game.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
The Cowboys have been riding high. Yeah, they'll score some points,
but the Eagles will do well enough. Jalen Hurts will
have a big day. Throw in the football. Oh you
hate me this week? Wait till I go for three
hundred and three touchdowns. I'll show you all about this.
The Eagles controversy great in the Cowboys controversy.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
I know it's on the road.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
But Philadelphia wins this game to they're better team, that
they're better in these kind of circumstances.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
They win this one, even if the offense has largely
been disappointing by their standards. But Philadelphia did what it
needed to do in the fourth quarter of that home
game against the Rams this year, and that might be
by the end of the season, the key game in
the entire NFC, because that might be the one game
that gives the Eagles the one seed and a first
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round by The Eagles are eight and two right now.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
The Rams are eight and two right now.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
If the season ended right now, Eagles would have the
one seed because of the head to head win over LA.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
You mentioned the Rams. What are the other big games
of the week?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Right, we get the Bucks and the Rams and Mayfield
and Stafford, And these are two teams that are both
really talented, but both completely moving in different directions.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Los Angeles generally not a first half of the NFL
season team. Generally they're a team the last few years
and hey, they're three and five. I don't know about them.
Then all of the US sudden, hey wait there ten
and five, like that's rim. But this year it's different,
and they've won five in a row. They're eight and two.
Tampa Bay has really hit the skids the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
And the injuries caught up with them.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Baker Mayfield made it work for a while, you know,
but look, you lose Mike Evans, no Chris Goblinal, though
Chris Godwin's coming back. Eventually, you're gonna have to start
paying for that, and I you realize that even though
guys like Sean Tucker can have big games out of
the backfield, the guy that Mayfield's missed the most has
been Bucky Irving.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Right, He's still gonna be a valve out of the back.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, it's been it's been tough, and Bucky Irving's been
out for those games. Right, Because you watch Baker Mayfield
on these big drives and games at the end of games,
what does he do checks down to Bucky Irving, who
will get you ten or twelve yards on a big
third and seven play.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
He's the big safety valve. They've missed him.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And I like what I saw last week, and I
was I was right on last week. I said, listen,
you're gonna get a lot of points against the Bills,
but the Bills are gonna pull this out at home
because they're the home team. And that's exactly what happened.
You're gonna see the same type of thing this week
where Tampa Bay is gonna play pretty well.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
You're gonna think well of them.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But the Rams defense is just too good. The Rams
are gonna win this game to go to nine and two.
They're the better team, right, now they have a lot
more things going on, and they're a lot healthier than
Tampa Bay is. The injury are just really caught up
to them, and they still have a lot of big
guys out, even though they're likely gonna get god Win
back this week. It's another week for the Rams and
we're gonna not believe in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But
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like Chris Berman used to say at the end of primetime,
better days ahead for this team. Like like at the
end of primetime when a team lose, like go to
two and fourteen, two and fourteen, But better days ahead
for the Jets in the offseason, like better days ahead
the rest of this year for the Bucks. Because it's
still the nf The NFC South is still gonna be
theirs for the taking because the rest of the teams
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are terrible. This is gonna be one more difficult week
before they get things back, get back into divisional play
and win the NFC South. But the Rams keep that
truck moving.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And I guess better days ahead for every team, assuming
they don't fold. It's how many days ahead you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
But I think the.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Rams defense is still not talked about enough. They only
average seventeen points a game given up per contest, which
is very impressive. I just mentioned Dallas for most of
the season has been giving up thirty points a game. However,
as good as the Rams are, and they are good,
they're getting a little bit of the injury bug now.
Fortunately they seem to play fifty two tight ends every week,
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so nobody's gonna miss Higby. But as far as being
a good team, it still amazes me that the kicking
game is that unreliable place kicking I'm talking about. They
have two kickers, and it's kind of like the quarterback situation.
When you have two you have none. I still say
the Rams have none in that department.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
The Rams have allowed the fewest points in the NFL
this year, with one hundred and seventy two. Okay, just
off the top of your head, how many more points
do you think the Cowboys have allowed?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
My god, Rams, off the top of your head, same
number of games, how many more points of the Cowboys
allowed in the Rams?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Ninety hundred over one hundred, one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
They've allowed one hundred and twenty one more points than
the Rams this year.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
You remember the Cowboys had a forty to forty game.
At one point they had that crazy Giants game early
season which was forty to thirty seven.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Uh So there you go, two of the biggest games
of the week in the NFL. You got the Cowboys
and the Eagles, Tampa Bay and the Rams. We got
more of the big NFL preview coming up, but straight ahead,
College Footballnews dot Com insider Extraordinary Pete few Tech stops
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Speaker 6 (17:35):
Right now he has a drone fine over late Lane.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Kiffin's house, so we will know if there are any
movements between now and the egg ball.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
It's Pete fu Tech. What's happening? Man? I you know what, we.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Should all be lane Kiffing. That'd be fun, you know,
I mean you get to you know, do I choose
between being you know, generational wealthy for like ten rounds
of my family or twenty.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Like it's not that, you know, I like Pete.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I really like the fact that the way both of
these both sides are dealing with this. Lane Kiffin's not
running from it. He's not doing a Nick Saban. Guys,
I'm not going to Alabama. And then two days later
he's at Alabama and Mississippi is like, Okay, this is
how it's being done in college football. This is how
coaches get poached, and we want a decision, and we're
going to get something. The day after the egg Bowl.
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That being said, I can't believe the day after the
Egg Bowl we're not going to find out that Lane
Kiffin's going someplace else. And the only question is, really
does he coach through the playoff or do they replace
him going into it?
Speaker 7 (18:34):
I mean, this is sticky because like that's about as
low rent as a guess. Like from all sides, if
you did it, you keep preaching, you know, buy in,
buy in, buy in, tell your players and everyone to
come to Old Miss. And everyone's smart. Everyone knows coaches
leave and players leave and all that kind of stuff.
But you're in the college football playoff with a chance
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for the national championship. Like, really, you're gonna get that
coach in a bowl game? Okay, that that's a little
you know, bad, but okay, fine, but not coaching in
the college football playoffs when you have a shot at
the national title. So if this does, he's gonna leave
for somewhere, either Florida or LSU probably, And like if Florida,
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LSU or they're gonna say, you know, we're gonna pay
you one hundred jillion dollars, come start, you know, doing
your job for us. But really what they should do
is say, hey, look, coach to the Bowl, you go
to the playoff until a few weeks, and then start
from there. My guess is that's going to be kind
of what has to happen, because man, that's just that's
just a pr stunt. That's just about as low as
(19:35):
it gets that you would not you know, give your
team a take the shot at coaching in the National championship.
Speaker 10 (19:42):
I think it's just the interesting thing. He used his
running back as a prop. We're talking ninety million dollars
the rumor number there at LSU.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
But is he waiting for some other coaching job to open.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
I mean I think honestly, yeah, I mean it's you know,
good luck with that because you know, doesn't win a
national championship yet, and he's already on the hot seat.
So it's a you know, it's that's if you want that. Hey,
you're bringing on and all your lane kiffness. Let's see
if this all works.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You know.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
So, Okay, he's the hot coach going and I've I'm
a huge fan. I've always thought, you know, he's actually
under raked if you kind of think about it, you know,
he's he's kind of always been in sort of a
strange weird underdog role. I mean, USC was you know,
hit with the Reggie Bush penalties when he was there.
Never really got a chance to open it all up
in Tennessee. He was there for one year at the
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best year of the program had in a while, and
then left for the US. He got job, which at
the time looked like a bigger gig. So you know,
nothing is all missed, but it's not doesn't have the
money done, know the resources. It's not LSU or Florida
or you know, one of these other gigs you might take.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
All right, So if I said to you Pete, all right,
I'm going to Vegas. I got a lot of money.
I'm putting it on. What for Lane Kiff in the
day after the egg Bowl? What do we find out?
Do we find out where he's going, what.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Do we get?
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I think my guess would be probably LSU first, Florida one,
be one of those two, and I would get again,
I maybe it's just me and this is you know whatever,
I'm just you know, just a simple what writer who
you know talks about these things. I there's no way
he does this in his until like after the college
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Football Playoffs, And I think that would be his announcements, like,
because you look, if you're Lane Kiffin, you know you
you're in control. Here they're trying to pitch you. So
this is on Kiffin. You know, he's got to be
the one to say I am you know, yes, I'm
taking your job, but not after I not until after
I finished the drow of these guys.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
So who's the consolation prize to the team that doesn't
get to Lane Kiffin?
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean the problem is you
never know. I mean I could just throw out names
like John Summall from Tulane would be a good one,
you know, just because he kind of had the tie
ins in the area and he's doing a good job
of Tulaine. He might go to the college football playoff.
And you know, certainly there are a whole slew of
you know names out there who might not be known
to the know the mass public. You know, missus Charles
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hof who you know last year took Marshall to win
the Sun Belt and so they miss was awful and
uh then took took Southern missing. He might take them
to the Sun Built Championship. You know, Signetti Light the bat.
You know, the new coach James Madison's doing a great job.
I mean there's all sorts of names like that, but
you never know until you get the guy in the
building and let him rumble, because you can always say, Okay,
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this is a perfect fit. Like Lincoln Riley is the
perfect fit for USC, and you know he's doing a
good job. But has he blown it up like we
thought he wouldn't know? You know, you just never quite
know who has that kind of right mix because sometimes
you know you're Scott Frost at UCF and sometimes you're
Scott Frost at Nebraska. It just doesn't quite work the
what you want.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
All right, Pete, Let's get to the game of the
day tomorrow, USC and Oregon. Everything on the line for
the Trojans. Basically they can make the College Football Playoff
with a win. Oregon's a big favorite. But I'll tell
you what, Pete, I just have a sneaking suspicion USC
plays their best game tomorrow. And we're talking about Lincoln
Riley believing in him again, like their offense has been
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so good all year long. I just have a feeling
we're going to get a big game from offensively because
Oregon's had trouble, right, they had trouble with Indiana's offense
earlier this year.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I just feel like we're going to get a big
win from USC tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
You with me against me on that, and.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
It's kept with you, except I think it's coming from
the defense. I hope that is going to give the
pressure to Dante more. And look to your point, you
know who who's Oregon being this is actually goes to
the Big Ten this year? I mean, you know, Ohio
State tomorrow when they play Rutgers, that's gonna be their
fifth straight game against the team. It's not going bowling.
You know, look at the the you know the schedule
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for Oregon. You're right, they did lose. They played two
really good teams. Indiana obviously he was really good, and
they lost by tenant home, and they struggled against Iowa
like you said, you know, he struggled against Penn State.
You know, you know, rolling up Minnesota is nice, but
Minnesota's not that good. I'm with you. Either it's either
goes one of two ways. Like you said, I think
I'm picking USC outright this so I'm with you, or
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it's just Oregon comes in, it's like, all right, now
we're gonna take our game up with you know, five
more notches and just you know, shows like okay, well
that's Oregon. Okay, they're they're in. But the funny part
about this is, though you kind of started out all right,
so let's say USC does win, you know, and they're
still gonna beat UCLA, which you know, let's assume if
Nico's back, you know, weird things after that thing. But okay,
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so if USC is, that means Oregon's out, you know,
if I guess right at that point, But like, who's that?
I mean, someone in this mix has to be out.
And this is gonna get really quirky because there's a
lot of teams who think they're gonna be and like
you you know, I'm on the Twitter machine a lot
pretty much BYU fans all think they're in the college
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football playoffs and I'm not. I don't have the energy
right now to be like, I don't know, I don't
think you are Miami. Thing. The fans are like, well,
you know, nore names in, Well we beat notre games,
should we be in? And like yeah, actually, how that
should work? Not going to work, So there's a lot
of lot of angst out there. And then the other
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X factor involved here. Let's see if if a MISZOI,
you know, can knock off Oklahoma tomorrow when they have
it now that they have their quarterback back, who knows
or maybe maybe what happens if Michigan wins out, what
happens if they do it again? And then ten and
two Michigan's got to be in. So there's a whole
lot of things that can still happen out there.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
Yeah, certainly, coming off the the last rankings, I think
you probably had some meetings in the state of Utah
saying what do they have against us? As you got
two teams that get bounced based on the way the
rankings and and the way this is set up. But
you mentioned the Missouri Oklahoma game. Oklahoma with a narrow
win over Alabama a week ago. Is this one where
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Hardy and company can run over them a bit?
Speaker 7 (25:58):
I think I think Oklahoma gets done. I mean, look,
nobody beats mac teams like Maszoo. But when it's time,
you know, prime time, and they got to beat the
big ones, doesn't quite happen. They always play well and
then all of a sudden something strange happens and doesn't
quite work like they wanted it too. So I think
Oklahoma wins, but I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be
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shocked if Oklahoma, you know, blows it did either get
to Maszoo or LSU. I still think there are a
couple curve balls in here that we're not seeing quite yet.
So yeah, I kind of think Oklahoma wins tomorrow, but
I do think that's gonna be one of the more
fun games of the day.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I keep looking and it's one of those things where
you don't realize how far they fall and in such
a short period of time. But tomorrow top twenty five game,
ye have Arizona State and Colorado. Colorado at three and seven.
Things just have gone absolutely downhill for Dion Sanders. Now,
obviously this I think they're gonna say at the end
of this year, they're gonna go okay, because look, they're
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not going to finish last in the Big twelve because
Oklahoma State. He kind of owns that spot right now.
But I wonder, I factor this year it's going to
be Dion's gonna prove it or he's out in Colorado
next year, because it's it's gone from the September of
his first year and everything's been downhill from there.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Pete, Yeah, No, I mean, or you know, like I
keep kind of saying, I'm sticking by my thing that
you know, we're going to see him flounder this week.
I still say should door standards is possibly the most
underappreciated college quarterback. I mean, he had a historic run
with his you know, accuracy you play, but like all
of a sudden, you know, you don't have any more
family members, you know, here it can help the cause out,
(27:37):
and you know they cannot seem to find the right mix,
and it's I love Deon. You know I said this before.
The problem is sometimes you have to build foundations. You
can't just go the transfer portal route, you know, touch
this text for example, they had a great base already,
they had good players, they had veterans, and then they
(27:57):
use the transfer portal in nil to pay for all
the guys who just kind of took them up another
few notches as opposed to doing wholesale changes where you're
trying to do it all from the transfer portal, which
is really hard to do. But you're right, I mean,
this has just been a bad year and they just
don't look like abel One. They're not doing anything right.
They just they don't have the infrastructure. Their lines just
(28:19):
have not been good enough. They got away with it
with the Chadur and some of the talents of the
last few years not happened in this year.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know, I almost feel like Pete sometimes when you
have when coaches or quarterbacks have a surprise amount of
success right away, and you know, Dion going into Colorado
and reshaping the program, all.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Of that, and you could call it a success because
of what he did to the program and the attention.
Absolutely you to follow up on that.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You don't really know how to do it because you expect, well,
how he did it last year is how it's going
to work, and you don't know how to navigate all
the mind fields ahead. And because you had too much
success too early, some people can't deal with that and
figure out how to sustain it.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yeah, And part of the problem them is is then
everyone expects it right away and you know, again you
have to have you have to build it up, you
need recruiting classes, you need I mean, and they're trying
to do this fast and I get it, and I
kind of I was a fan of the way Deon
did it when he first started was he basically walked
into the room and said, you guys aren't good enough.
I'm going to get better players. And it's great, you know,
(29:21):
if you're a fan of Colorado football, that's kind of
what you want. As harsh as it is for the
players who are there, the problem has been they just
haven't been able to have the continuity there. They just
haven't been able to figure out how to get like
I said, get the lines together. That's like the hardest
piece to put I've asked coaches about this and they
always kind of say the thing. It's just to find
five guys for that offensive line. It's just like the
(29:44):
hardest thing to do because it's you got to you
got to get the guys who can play metton Well
and Nesh together and you have to have the right
offensive line coach and oh and Colorado's has not been
able to do that yet.
Speaker 10 (29:56):
So what lawsuits and pay out to have been the
fun thing for LSU. The the Brian Kelly thing might
be the most fun. But beyond Lane Kiffin, I mean,
Lane Kiffin's interesting. We got nora ed trackers at all.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
But now that you.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Didn't really fire me, a ton of scenario going on here.
This is fun.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Pete an educated I'm an educated man. I don't get
this one. So, like, did you fire Brian Kelly? Did
you not fire him? Did he leave? I didn't certainly
didn't seem like he left on his own. Uh So,
I'm I'm kind of tried to figure this one out.
I'm not sure what LSU standing. It's like, you know,
(30:36):
like the James Franklin thing was pretty crispin Klean, like,
go get another job and you know everyone's gonna get paid.
You know, everything will be all right. Franklin did okay,
boom boom boom done. But you know it's Brian Kelly.
It's just there's never anything easy when it comes to
this guy. And by the way, because you know we
you know, just bring it all together. Remember he took
that LSU job when Notre Dame was still in the
(30:58):
mix for the college football play. It wasn't a done
deal yet, and that was that was like, you know,
that's you know me, I'm going to biff the line.
I don't do mean machine well, but like that's just
an American. You know, it's just you don't you do
whatever you want, but you don't leave your team with
guys shot at the college football playoff and you know
that's what he did then, and certainly you know so
I don't think Alane's going to do this now. It's
(31:19):
just it's a little bit too low rent. But hey, look,
if you're LSU, they apparently have a whole lot of
money somewhere for these coaches. And I know there are
people in me who like education that you know, state
and school aren't so pleased about this. But okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
He's on Twitter at Pete few Tech. That is, at
Pete feutech college footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping
for everything college football. All the picks, all the prognostications,
all the previews, all the analysis you want, done by
the man you just heard.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
He is pt tech. Do you enjoy the guys, man,
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
I'm going guys, see you money.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
There goes Pete feud Tech.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Time out of trying to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
On a big NBA night from the NBA Cup Series,
Steve de Sager Steve and.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
A little college football as well.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
NC State a home winner against Florida State twenty one eleven.
Seminoles were not good, four turnovers, missed, two field goal attempts.
Florida State two and six in the ACC, and we've
got a game on FS one. Right now, it's Hawaii
seven and three at UNLV eight and two, Vegas leading
seventeen to seven mid second quarter. Now of the NBA
is Brooklyn, which was two and twelve this season, got
(32:28):
to win at Boston one thirteen to one oh five.
Nick Claxton a triple double. Toronto won forty to one
ten over Washington Washington Wizards one in fourteen. Now Indiana
falls to two and fourteen after losing at Cleveland. Cavs
won twenty to one oh nine. Miami and Dallas each one.
Currently it's the Timberwolves in the final seconds leading at
(32:49):
Phoenix one thirteen to one twelve. Houston, with under nine
minutes left, is ahead of the Nuggets. That's a ninety
two eighty seven at the moment, and Oklahoma City has
a fifteen to one record, but trails at Utah mid
third quarter eighty four eighty one. No doubt blinded by
the purple court. College basketball, number one Perdue is blowing
(33:12):
away fifteenth ranked Texas Tech that scores seventy six forty
seven with about four minutes left. Perdue in the lead.
Already wins for Louisville and BYU. In women's hoops Notre
Dame USC sixty one to fifty nine on a late basket,
and number one Connecticut played on Fox TV tonight, edging
number six Michigan seventy two sixty nine. Just four NHL
(33:33):
games tonight, Bruins early second period scoreless at La Buffalo,
nine to three winners over Chicago. Minnesota won in a
five to nothing shutout at Pittsburgh, Carolina, a four to
three winner at Winnipeg.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'll tell you this,
if Utah beats the thunder tonight, every team play in
Oklahoma City the rest of the way going to paint
that court purple for the game.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
We found the only thing that slow them down. Just
paint the court purple. What do we have, Just brush
paint it. I don't care. Just get purple on there.
Speaker 10 (34:05):
But it was your own pink locker rooms right in
Iowa and all those other things you try to find
your advantage.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Speaking of basketball, we have more NFL more college football
on the way, but straight ahead a crazy basketball story
tonight that involves Phil Jackson, the Knicks, Rick Patino. Do
we need more than that? Oh no, that's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
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version posted. Right after we get off the air, well,
we get back into our big Football Friday preview coming
up in about ten minutes. Two more big games in
the NFL to take a look at. But uh, you
know this is this story from the NBA today. This
(35:18):
is this is just just a cherry on top of
your Sunday that you need.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
You really didn't want me sending that along.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Now, No, no, no, no, but again I'm not surprised,
and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
So.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Saint John's head coach, Rick Patino, who once was the
head coach of the New York Knicks, is also once
head coach of Louisville, once the head coach of Donovan Mitchell.
He went on a podcast today and he said, you know,
when the Knicks were picking in the draft and Dono
of Mitchell was coming out, I begged them to take
Donovan Mitchell. I said, hey, this guy's great. Take Donovan
(35:49):
Mitchell and Phil Jackson. The Knicks told him no. Here's
Rick Patino relaying that story.
Speaker 11 (35:56):
So I called the Knicks they had the seventh pick.
I called him up and said, listen, take take my
guy Downovan Mitchell. He's going to kill it. And he said, no,
I don't know. I don't know if we could take
him that high. Seven. They wound up taking Frank Nicoletti
or Nicola Nicolina.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
They could have had done him at seven. They couldn't
take him.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
It was too high, but they took Frank.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I think Frank Nicoletti is a comedian. I think I
saw him on Chelsea lately a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I think he was there.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
So they did get Frank Nitakuino, who was the guard
from France that Phil Jackson took, because you know, that's
the thing about Phil is that he is completely one
of the what he ran the Knicks and he was
making decisions. He was I'm the smartest guy in the room,
and I'm gonna take these guys right now. It worked
out with a guy like Porzingis who didn't want to stay,
and then Nikina it didn't work out, and they could
(36:46):
have had Donovan Mitchell. Uh and Niakina. We found his
way out of the league. But I'm not surprised because
Phil Jackson. The one thing Phil Jackson loves more than
anything else in the world is big guards. He loves
big guards. And Niakina had the big wing span. He
was a great defensive player, and Phil thought he was
gonna be the next great two way guard. So yeah,
I'm taking him instead of Spider Mitchell or Frank Nicoletti
(37:08):
or you Knowino throws out there, throw in shade but
that is typical mix. Now I do want to say
this as well. It's not like the Knicks were the
only team you think. Rick Patino is the only team
he called to take Donovan Mitchell was the Knicks.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Everybody else could have taken him.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Everybody else could have taken him, right, everybody else could
have taken Steph Curry. Everybody else could. But no it's
the Knicks, and and Phil Jackson stunk running the Knicks.
So this is what we do. But yeah, this is
a typical on brand nick story. Oh we had this
great star we could have gotten. Noa noa, No, it's
not like we took another guy. We're gonna take a
chance at a stab in the dark to take a
player from France, and we have no idea how his
(37:46):
game is gonna relate to to the NBA. Right, we
think we do, but we don't. We see him against
competition where we're not sure how to measure it. And
and this is just absolutely maddening. Like I feel like
teams now do that and they dip into the foreign
market because they want to feel like, hey, we've done
our homework and if we hit on this guy, we
(38:08):
look like geniuses.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
We look like.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Absolute gene because we're taking somebody that nobody knows becomes
a really good player and we think he's the next
Luca or he could be at very at least the
next Ricky Rubio, and we wind up with a guy
for a decade or a decade plus, but everybody thinks
they're so smart. We're going to go do this rather
than take a college guy that, ah, maybe he's a
little bit smaller, maybe he's not gonna be able to
play defensive way he wants it to.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
We find a way to not like him.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
But yeah, if we go overseas for a guy, we
look like the smartest guys in the world because we
know something that nobody else did. And I really do
think that's a that's part of a psychology when when
teams make picks like this and make big decisions in
the draft, they want to show we are smarter than
everybody else. And Phil Jackson did that all the time
when he was running the knicks on the Lakers.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Well go back to when he was with the Bulls
and how they would go overseas on the legend of
Tony Kukoach great but certainly one of many guys in
that era that was drafted on the wish and to
hope that being battle tested by playing professional ball at
a young age, they come right in and physically and
mentally be ready for the wear and tear of the NBA.
(39:16):
Some huge hits, some huge misses along the way. In
this particular case, well, we know what history says. And
for Rick Patino, he gets to take a little bit
of a victory lap here for his guy, now, Frank Nicoletti. Funny,
we let's get to him for a second. From nineteen
sixty three to nineteen sixty six, three years as a
point guard for your Syracuse Orange. What years sixty three
(39:41):
to sixty six?
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So he played with Dave He must have played with
Dave Bing sixty nine games played.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Yeah, okay, that must have been with Dave Bing.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Roomed with Dave Bing his sophomore year.
Speaker 10 (39:52):
Oh wow, I have the first white athlete at Syracuse to.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Room with a black athlete.
Speaker 10 (39:57):
Woe is part of a law firm that has been
going now for forty years. You think Patino knows Frank
Nicolette and called him after Hey, I just gave you
an financial shout out, tadcast.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Maybe you get a client or two coming out of this.
Speaker 10 (40:14):
I don't know it's insurance law for the last forty years.
Graduate from Syracuse sixty six and then Suffolk University in
nineteen seventy, but yeah, there it is.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
He was known for his hustle.
Speaker 10 (40:27):
That's how big and nerd I am, like, all right,
there's got to be someone here with the name Frank
Nicoletti that matters, that would show up and give us
some content. And sure enough, six degrees of separation, no
one directly to Syracuse.
Speaker 6 (40:44):
They took Frank.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Nicoletti, who was a sixty eight year old lawyer out
of Wow. Okay, that's a big pick for Phil Jackson
in the Knicks taking Frank Nicoletti.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
He averaged about three points in game for his three
years there.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Oh boy, well that was about what Frank Nitokina average
for this.
Speaker 6 (41:00):
So it's not a.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Pretty much one to one right there, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Exit out bout a Fresca exit to hold them. I
love that the Knicks had like four chances to get
Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 6 (41:11):
Nope, nope, nope, I can't get him, get go. Danny
Ainge kept him away. Phil jack No, no, no, just go.
Speaker 10 (41:17):
Back to that draft as a whole though, right, I mean,
you got Tatum and Fox and marketing. Uh, and then
a lot of question marks along the way.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Coming up next, we get back into our football Friday,
we preview two of the biggest games in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
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