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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
I gotta send this to my dad, Fox Sports Radio,
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend, Mike Harmon.
That from Fox Sports one's postgame coverage of the Blue
Jays and the Yankees. That's the Blue Jays celebration in
their locker room any Yankee stadium, laying Frank Sinatra's New York,

(01:07):
New York, the Yankee Song in the locker room awesome
as they celebrate their win.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Wear it look, I'm gonna do things my way, and
my way is terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
We want to see the sound system they're playing that
off of too. It's probably just a boombox. Yeah, I
think always got the little external speakers that they bought.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Can you hook that up to the bluetoothkit you No,
never mind, We're just gonna play a little bit stripe
that as much as you can.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, that's wow. The Yankee Clubhouse right now, you're hearing
that blurring. Yeah, you're here trying to answer questions and
you just heard.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Is it malfunctioning outside? That's outside? Right? Please don't be
the clubhouse next stars, Please don't be the clubs that's
over the loudspeaker that they accidentally misfired. That right, Right.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
If I'm in the Yankee Clubhouse hearing that, I go
join them and party.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Well, that's what Don Mattingly did. Apparently I'm gonna go
hang out. Hey, that's great, earned it.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Hey, he earned a check.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Judge walks In puts on the goggles celebrating spraying Champagne.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I had a big series. I mean I did my job.
Yeah that was great.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
But I hit the one of the Yankee. Don Maddingly's
top five Yankee all time.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh no, no, no, but fifteen yeah okay, yeah, yeah
he might be thirteen. Like he stands for all that
losing they did from eighty six to ninety six.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah sure.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
His whole career basically was the year after they were
good and then they were bad, and then he retired the.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Year before they got But he was really good. He
was true. Don Maddingley was terrific. He was right. But
it's bad it didn't go out right because of that
deep crouch.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean, but he came up right after the Yankees
were good in the early eighties, right right after they
were good his rookie year, and he retired the year
before they went to the World Series in ninety six.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, bench coach since twenty twenty two for the Blue Jays.
Just it just looks really odd in that uniform.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Mister blue Jay, that's what they call him, Mister blue Jay.
Nattily shaved those sideburns, Mister blue Jay. Celebrate. He's finally saying,
Donny Field done well. Took me a long time to
celebrate a big win with champagne and Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Here I am heading to the Championship Series. I mean,
remember that eighty five season, him and Dave Winfield battling
for the batting title. I guess that was the eighty
four season. Commemorating in eighty five and well, here he
is to help remember of the Blue Jays staff congratulating
in New York, New York, Matt heading to the Al

(03:37):
he's the guy that had it on. Oh, I got
it on my phone. Hang on, just go right, just
wait on this for dirty hair.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
I have my artboard, I'm being told and on the
dark board is a picture of Steinbredder.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Nearly twenty years. I had this, and I've been waiting.
Did what do you have? No? I got a playlist.
It goes back into the New York groove. Is next. Yeah,
I know it's all good. The summer wind he had. No,
We're all good. We'll just keep playing. Is We're all
got a whole run, followed by some billy Joel. Now,
if we stay here long enough, we'll get a little
bit of Springsteen and let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
The first thing I want to say is this. It
was last week after the win over the Red Sox,
the destiny, Ryan McMahon, new Jeter play, and Schlittler coming
up Unlike any rookie we've seen in baseball in years
and years. Hey, Yankees look like boy, look like they're
a team of destiny. They're gonna win this series that
I said they're gonna get out, They're gonna rake the

(04:28):
first couple of games, and the Yankees are gonna win.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
This series and I missed this today. I was off day.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I say, listen, the Yankees are gonna listen, Yankees are
gonna roll through, They're gonna hit, They're gonna they're hitting
the spring board here. This is what's happening. And instead
it was the exact opposite. And I want to say this,
I am absolutely fine getting that prediction wrong. I mean,
you think I am at There are certain predictions. Man,
I'm mad I got that wrong. A man that didn't

(04:55):
work out. I'm now this is one of those. I'm like, yeah,
I'm eminently okay with being wrong about the Yankees winning
around in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
And the Yankees going up. I'm okay with. I really am.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
You don't need that. No, this is just for the radio, right, No,
I really am okay being wrong on that. I'm absolutely
one hundred percent fine.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
No again, I mean, you make a lot of predictions.
In this case, A part of it was maybe you
were worried about your dad or many of your friends
who were Yankee fans, many of them who adopted the
Yankees for no logical reason other than that they were
winners during their upbringing. But all of that to say,
you know, they did score thirteen runs over a two

(05:34):
game stretch, So I mean that was good. They lost
one of them thirteen to seven, but you know that
that's all right. I mean they won one game. Offense
was terrible except for Aaron Judge who came loaded for Bear.
But it's bad for the business. I mean because now
we get one more day to talk about. Hey, is
Aaron Boone gonna stay? Is Brian You're gonna stay? And

(05:56):
then it goes away. They're looking at perfect. The Blue
Jays aren't exciting as much. I love Laddie Junior because
maybe we get some shots of the old man hitting
some balls out of the dirt. Hey, remember this is
what he and look at here he was watching his
dad hit. And we get it, you know, all those
old shots. That's great. There's not there's not a lot
of personalities out. You're in a perfect world for baseball fans.
The Yankees make it to the World Series and they

(06:18):
lose like last year, right, that was perfect for Babs,
especially the way they lost today. Come on, yeah, absolutely,
we'll live forever. Yeah, Dodgers, Yankees didn't hurt major League
Baseball and all lots at all. Now the Yankees around
and now it's.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Oh, it's just like in the NCAA tournament when you say, oh, man,
I love all these upsets until you get to the
sweet sixteen. He go, hey, I'm going to the bar
Saturday to watch and it's oh boy, it's copp and
State and Washington State.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Okay, oh they play beer pong there. All right, how
are we going to pass the time?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Everybody loves it until oh wait, it's it's it's the
It's the Blue Jays and the Mariners. It's the blue
Jays and the Tigers. It's a blue Jays Brewers World Series.
Everybody loves until you that's the World Series.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on. All right, all right,
we get to watch Bernie on the slide. Jackson Curio's
a guy that you know. I mean, I'll be cheering
for Andrew Vaughan. But yeah, all of that to say,
we need the storylines, we need the history, we need
the pomp and circumstance. Doesn't mean we don't like new
new teams crashing the party. But I'm looking out for America.

(07:17):
But America. But I'm I'm old Daniel day Lewis. Honestly,
I'll deal with that.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I'll deal with that as the fallout of the Yankees
not being so you got one half of your Yeah, hey,
the one half of this equation that came in for you.
If the Dodgers can come from behind tonight and win,
I can wear my Metskier again because the Men and
the Phillies.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Will bet It's like an automatic again rebooted a video game.
I got all my lines back. I can't wear my
medsker until both of those teams are out. Goes back
to laundry day. You cannot. I can't do it. I
mean the Jets are already done, so I mean, what
else has he got? He's got like a week of
the Knicks?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, no, no, the Knicks. We're gonna be honest. What
we're getting on is it's fine. But the worst part
for the Yankees. Okay, you want to know this right
because I told a few minutes ago this is not
a horrendous playoff loss. This was a pretty good Yankees
team and losing here it's an appropriate time for them
to lose. They would never they were never great. They
had injury problems, they had performance problem performance and.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
You're in very some changes, but you're in a very
deep division. Right, you got help by the fact that
everything went wrong for Baltimore too. Well, I need to
get to this point.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
You had helped the Red Sox decided to trade away
Rafael Devers and get better.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Anthony got hurt.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, so I mean, look, this was a they were
a pretty good team and losing in the alds Okay, Like,
this is not something that the Yankees got to hang
their heads and hide and go, oh, I just got
to go to kankun with Wan Soto on vacation and
hang out because I can't see it. It's still shameful.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
But this is the.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Worst part for the Yankees, right, because what is the
narrative they wanted to get rid of. They wanted to
get rid of the lazy Yankees, bad fundamental narrative. Right
the Joe Kelly sounded that that alarm last year Dodger
reliever he'd been playing the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
It called the Yankees lazy. Remember how it's mad they
got All off season and even into uh spring training.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I kept coming up because we saw the Yankees fundamentally
they were bad. They didn't run the base as well,
they made a lot of errors, and that narrative stuck
with them. All the way through this season, right when
they had that big mid season swoon, and the Yanks
and the Yankees announcers were saying, this is a little
league team. They can't run the bas as well, they
don't do things well fundamentally. Even Buck Martinez, blue Jay's

(09:31):
announceder before the series, said hey, I don't think the
Yankees are very good. I don't think it's He doubled
down saying, yeah, what I said. They're not a good
baseball team. They don't do the things you need to
do well enough to win. And yes, there is a
lot of that in baseball this year, especially the last
couple of years, where managers make mistakes, teams make mistakes,
but they get bailed out by a three run homer. Right,

(09:52):
we said that that happened so many times. Hey, this
team played horrible today, this was bad, this was bawd,
but we had a three run homer and that bailed
us out of that. The Yankees weren't bailed out by it.
So the Yankees the one thing they wanted to do
was get rid of that narrative, get rid of the
lazy Yankees. We can't play narrative. Especially Aaron Boone wants
to get rid of it because that's going to cause
him to get fired.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
And what happened?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
What do we see just in this game, you saw
Aaron Boone not pinch it for Anthony Volpi who was
at that point one for fourteen with ten strikeouts. Anybody
else going up there would be a better choice to pay,
but they left let him go up there. In the
seventh inning with a runner on base, he strikes out,
next batter gets it. The Yankees can't get any runs in.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Okay. You had Jazz.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Chishlm boot a double play grounder in the seventh inning
where the Blue Jays were able to take their lead
from two to one to four to one. Double playgrounder.
Bad optics by chishm was seen yawning, you know, last night,
during the middle of the game, an elimination game. He's yawning,
and he goes down on social media and says, I
yawn all the time. Okay, yeah, bad optic man to

(10:53):
be yawning during a game. You had the big ra
by Jazz Chism and you had the horrible at bat
by Austin Wellson. This goes into lazy Yankees, bad bass running,
bad coach, bad fundamentals where Ben Rice is up. This
is the Yankees last gasp, right, It's five to one
in the eighth inning. Ben Rice pinch hits for Paul
Goldschmidt and he works a walk out of Hoffman. Hoffman

(11:14):
throws a three to two slider that's not even close
to the plate. So now Yankee Stadium is rocking. Austin
Wells is coming up, bases loaded. You know, Hoffman in
his boots, his knees are clanking together. He has just
walked a guy. What are you gonna do? And Austin
Wells swings at the first pitch, flies out to left
field on a pitch that is high and out of

(11:36):
the strike zone. It's not a one running this is
a four run game that you need to figure something
out here right now with two outs, and you not
only swing at the first pitch after a guy gets
walked to load the bases, and you know the pressure
he's feeling, the pressure running You're on the mound in
Yankee Stadium at this point. You've never been in this
position before in your life. Yeah, the pressure is on you.

(11:57):
And Wells bails him out by swinging at a bad pitch.
It's a lazy fly ball leftfield. See lazy Yankees lazy
yek it is and this is that's the worst part
for the Yankees is that lazy Yankee narrative. Bad fundamentals,
bad base running, bad everything that's not going anywhere. Because
this was something that players doubled down on, people doubled
down on, and you saw the and you saw the

(12:17):
result on your screen. Lazy Yankees fundamentally bad. That narrative
sticks with them now through another full season. It's not enough.
If they lost or they lost eight to seven, they
lost seven to six. They hit the ball, but their
pitching didn't come through. You know, the Blue Jays were
able to rake, but they still have this lazy Yankee
narrative that sticks with them. And this is why, honestly,

(12:38):
I thought Aaron Boone did enough. You know, they beat
the Red Sox. We wanted to win this series. I
don't know, man, seeing lose this one, I am not
gonna be surprised if the Yankees say we need something
else to get there and Aaron Boone is replaced as
Yankee mana.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
But you go through the whole Ledger, go back to
the start of that Red Sox series when he had
Rice and Chisholm on the bench. Right two, I get it,
you're going up against Crochet, but Theo's been two of
your productive hitters. You're talking about sixty home runs. A
ton of RBIs on the bench and you lose that
and eventually you get bailed out because of the lack

(13:12):
of fundamentals on the Red Sox side. But all of
it is in the grand total, right the ledger at
the end of we talk about shedding your mortal coil
and the good and the bad that you did whatever
else for Aaron Boone, there's a lot of it of
going through the one sixty two plus the playoffs of
operations and management of this roster. Still spent a lot

(13:34):
of money, right, It's not Dodgers, it's not Mets money,
but it is still a significant amount of cash. And
it's another year of Aaron Judge's prime that gets wasted. Right,
And he had a fantastic series, But do you have
enough horses around him to get you over. We talk
about the prospects and expecting what they were going to be.
Domingus was okay. He was a two fifty seven hit

(13:57):
or ten home runs. Nothing to write home about. Ben
Rice looks like a guy who's going to grow into
a really good left handed hit bat for you. For Volpi,
he's a plus player, but he's not the number one
prospect that you were anticipating and starting pitching. Yeah, Garrett
Cole would have been a nice addition. Well, do you
have enough there to get through the East again, because

(14:18):
you're you're navigating h you know, a war inside and
a bigger war right the the when we're talking about
the American League as a whole, there's a lot of
heavyweight teams going, but you got to get out of
the East first. The Rays are always gonna win eighty
five games by default. Yeah, and looch is what they do.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
And you've already seen a season in which you went
from World Series Yankees, lazy Yankees, Little League Yankees, two
out in the Alds Lazy Yankees, Little League Yankees. Like that,
that's not something that says, hey, we have the right
leadership in here where we know when you can't keep
figuring out that, well, a three run homer is gonna

(14:57):
bail us out, right, Judge is not going to bail
you out with a three on homer every single enough
to win series like this not gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
No. I mean, you're running through a gauntlet of teams
and a long regular season. And look the pitching staff.
Schlittler might be that guy, right, he might become that
that big arm that goes along with these others. But
you still have so many other questions that you have
to answer. Uh, and the little little things of the

(15:24):
innings that get away. Aaron Boone probably faces the sort
of damicles off of this exit ab out of Fresco
exit swelling down the Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. We got more baseball on the way.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
We have more on the Yankees getting eliminated, more on
I think I can run for some sort of baseball president.
And my only, my own my only platform needs to
be stop bunting. So we will have that more big
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Speaker 1 (17:32):
That flyball died at the warning track. O'tani really gave
it a ride? The ball is dying warning track? Yeah,
Choeltani mere feet from a home run that would have
cut the deficit to three to two. However, a flyout
to left field Dodgers still trail the Phillies right now,

(17:56):
three to one. This game moving along. We go to
the top of the eighth inning of feel like the
Yankees game just ended.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Brisk.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
This game started two hours later, and then we're gonna
it's gonna end brisk two hour game. Right here it
is flying. We may see another inning from Clayton Kershaw. Yeah,
who came in last inning and the boy it was dicey.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
It wasn't normal.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Hey, things are wonderful. But Kershaw gets out of the inning.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Three base runners but no runs allowed.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, threw a lot of pitches, twenty one pitches, nine
for strikes, nine four strikes, two walks. But he gets
out of it. So we may see him again here
in the eighth inning. We'll let you know go again.
Go to the top of the eighth as we just
started here. Otani flies out to the wall in left field.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
And how about Sandy Kofax out the game. Yeah, I
might be coming. He might be coming into pitch in
this inning.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
In the history of civilization, I don't think anybody's ever
looked as good as Sidney KOFAXI he lood.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
The two people, Sandy Kofax, my next door neighbor, Lillian,
they in their nineties.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
They're great.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
I've ever put them in the same set. I'll tell
you my neighbor, Lillian, ninety five. She drives to Costco
a couple of times a week.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
That shouldn't be alive.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
She drives her friends, her friend. She is the envy
of all of her friends because she can still because
she can still drive. Oh, we're gonna go somewhere. Oh,
they all get their hats on, ready to go. And
she she's ninety five, and she still drives. That's the best.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
She's still with it. Everything else. I see her every week.
It's awesome. She's fantastic. I had a neighbor that got
to one hundred. She just still going square dancing once
a week. I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
That's not really street legal. By the way, what is
square dancing for driving? You can square dance? No, man,
she can pass the test again. She drives fine, ninety
five ninety five ninety.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Five passenger seat right there. She's just saying on the
roads in Los Angeles and men, I see a lot
of things. I question a lot of the decisions of
the DMV. I think I.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Think she's okay. Who's not okay? Is Clayton Kershaw? Oh No,
comes back out for a second inning of relief? Ja
Real Mutto meets him. I believe it was a first
pitch home run left center field bleachers, making a four
to one Phillies lead over the Dodgers. And you know, obviously, look,

(20:12):
the Phillies have to win all three games. But we're
seeing Kershaw pitch tonight. Likely he's gonna go two winnings, Like,
is this how Kershaw is gonna go out? Is this
gonna be the end. This could be the end of
play The Phillies win this series, right, and this might
be the only time we see Kershaw in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
This might be it.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Now you got this Phillies winning the series. It's just
like I'm just saying, he's gonna come in here with
that baseball.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I'm just saying, this could be how Clayton Kershaw goes out, right,
this could be how this might be the last time
we get to see him play.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
No, this is that's a tough, tough outing.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I mean it's not Belichick North Carolina, but it's it's
still a little difficult here.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I mean, generally, I'm all on board the if you're
gonna fail, fail spectacularly, but that's all at a relative basis,
you know, in a grand scope. In this case, you know,
the Phillies, as much as you love their uniforms, Yeah,
I don't want it against Kershaw. They look great, like
he's one of the great red asses of our time.
And I wanted him to go out with a clean sheet.

(21:12):
Well that's not gonna happen. No, no, last not gonna
not gonna do it there. Yeah, but I mean, really,
this is really struggling with his control too. He's trying
to uh, he's throwing, he's not pitching.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
This is how bad the Dodger bullpen Is Kershaw comes
in and has as rocky as seventh inning as you
could have without giving up a run again, twenty one pitches,
nine for strikes, and what did the Dodgers think? You
know what, Let's bring him out there again for the ring.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Still better than anything else we're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
You can't go to Sasaki. Okay, well we're not gonna Okay,
understand I'm not gonna do that. Well, Tanner Scott was available. Yeah,
he's always available. He's like any time I'm available, I'm
available to that end. I mean, Kershaw is the fourth
pitcher that the Dodgers have used tonight. Imla started was
only able to go four.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Tanner Scott is the person's jumping up and down doing
jumping checks. Let me in the tenor.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Scott's a person who was like, listen, I just want
to go to the prom. If anybody asked me, I'll
say yes, I don't care if I don't really know
you that well, if we don't really talk, I just
want to go to the prom.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
So I will go, I will go. Tennor Scott is
always available. He's in the back of the class doing
the horse shack, going welcome back Cotter. Since we were
watching some Tremolton before going ooh ooh, it's like anybody else,
anybody else want to volunteer.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
And now Max Munsey did not make things better on
a short ground at a third he tries to short
hop it, he boots it. So now the Phillies have
runners at first and second with nobody out. In the
top of the eighth inning, is Kershaw walk the next batter?

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Uh? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean now you wonder is Kershaw gonna finish walking
off the mound or is he gonna have to give
the ball to Dave Roberts.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
I did not want to remember. Look at this, we
got a bunt situation. Yeah, like I like this.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
You are seeing a real This is really really difficult
to see this from Kershaw.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
But the Phillies help him out by bunting. We're gonna
give you an out again, get him on, get him
but again the Phillies first and second, nobody out. You're
up for one. Let's bunt. Like what I don't understand,
I really I think We've seen enough of bunting being
an epic fail in the playoffs to know that, Hey,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Think this is what you do.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
I don't think it's right right now, Look, let's go
back right, he's been effectively wild. We have the we
have the the Red Sox going home essentially because Rafaela
couldn't get a bunt down.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Uh. We had the Phillies bunting their way into a
loss in Game two to the Dodgers because they decide
to bunt in the ninth inning of a game. And
now today you had the Brewers potentially could have closed
out the Cubs, but in the seventh inning of of
a of a one run game, with runners at first
and second, they decide to bunt, and what happens. Now

(24:01):
it runs at first and third. They decide for a
safety squeeze, and what happens, runner gets thrown out, and
so there's still two on. But now there's two outs
and the Cubs get out of the inning. They go
on to win the game four to three, and now
they stay alive for one more day. Like the safety squeeze, Like,
I don't understand how that was something that Yeah, let's

(24:22):
try this let's do this. And the reason I'm so
anti bunt and I tell you the bunt is terrible, well,
I have John Paul morosion later on tonight, and there's
really no Leggi has a standing because he told us
last night.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Oh I love the bunch.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, the bunt is awful because it's not just about
getting the bunt down. It would be enough if it
was hey to execute the bunt and move the runners right,
But it's getting the bunt down, it's making the play
bunting right, and it's being able to get out of
it with what you want to accomplish, which is I'm

(24:54):
gonna bunt the runner over and they're gonna throw me
out at first and we have the runner at second
or the runner at third. That's the best case scenario.
But nobody can bunt anymore. There's nobody's leading the league
with twenty eight sacrifice bunts like they did in the
seventies and eighties. Players can't bunt. They can't bunt under
pressure situation. When you ask players that just don't do
it anymore. That's not taught as much anymore. As players

(25:16):
come out from the miners and the majors, you can't say, okay,
now go bunt in in game two of the ALDS
game game three of the the NLDS, you can't ask
a player to do that, not only because it's hard
enough to get the bunt down, but there's so many
other things going along with it. Right, you have a
situation in which, okay, so you have players trying to bunt,

(25:37):
and then you have the runners that have to know
what's going on. Right you have in the in the
in the Yankee game with the Red Sox, you have
Rafaela who clearly bunts a horrible pitch and pops it up.
Right now, you go back to last night with the
Phillies bunt, to the game two with the Phillies bunt
where they throw out Caste Aanos at third Why are
you bunting?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Forget about getting the bunt down. But you also know, oh,
you have a really slow runner at second base, and
you couldn't pinch ron Harrison Bader I get it because
he's not he's not fist. So if you can't pinch
run a guy, is a bunt really the right play
because you have a guy that's not gonna get a
great jump off the second base and Costagles got thrown
out pretty easy.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
That goes in.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
That's part of the bunt play, is the guy going
from second to third. Also part of the bunt play
is making sure he get the bunt down and the
runner gets the jump off a third with the safety squeeze,
and you bunt it too hard already, We're not gonna
get there.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
And and you saw the runner get caught.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
He was out by ten feet at home plate on
a safety squeeze, so he didn't get a jump. There's
so many different things machinations that go into being able
to pull off a bunt in a pressure situation. Disaster
is more than likely. And I really don't understand how
how these teams say, yeah, we're gonna keep doing this.
I do understand how, yeah we're gonna keep You see

(26:49):
all these big fails. It's fail fail, fail fail, But yet.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
They still keep doing it. And now tonight Rob Thompson's
gonna look at you and go. Scott got the bunt down,
get him on, get him over. Turner with the single
kepler scores, Costiano scores, and then Kershaw gives up a
two run home run to Kyle Schwarber. As this inning
continues to get worse. Yeah, and worse, you know, and worse.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
We started off by talking about is this the way
Clayton Kershaw is gonna go out? And wow, it's it's
gotten way worse than we even said it was.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
We had the leadoff home run to JT. Real Muto,
then he had a walk, then the the error by
Max Munsey, the second Dodger error of the night, and
things unraveled from there. Stott sacrifice Bunch White and again,
why did you sacrifice Bunch when you're hitting the ball
like this? Right, Stutt Bunch And Okay, that works out,
But then Trey Turner singles to write to bring in

(27:45):
two runs.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Little blooper single.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yep, Kyle Schwarber hits a deep home run to right field,
and now it's eight to one.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, that ball just kept drifting to.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
One and this could again, this could be the last
time we see Clayton Kershaw on the mount of this.
This could be the last appear yearance of his career.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
And now, after thirty eight pitches, there's finally someone up
in the bullpen. Well after he gives up five in
this inning, I think at this point it's just we
want Clayton to walk off the mound and not me
have to go get him, right, I think where that's
where you're at. And again one out off of the
sacrifice bunt.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
You know, And and again Dave Roberts say, you know
when he gave up the leadoff Homer, you kind of
have to go get him at that point, right.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
And then look, this gets into this gets.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Into the point where we talked earlier in the show
about how managers they want to stick with their guys
so much, but this is the playoffs and you're trying
to win, right, and you can't keep sticking with your
guys if they're not coming through. So Kersh has a
really rough inning, but he gets out of it, Okay,
send him out for the next inning.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
All right.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
There's not a lot of that without throwing, okay, but
you have to have somebody throwing, right. You can't you
expect Clayton Kersh. You saw how dice he was if
he was sawing off bats and it was a seven
pitch inning. I don't need anybody throwing in the bullpen.
I'm good, but again, twenty one pitches, nine for strikes,
two walks. You gotta have somebody else ready because the
game is still within reach view. It's still only three
to one, and you don't want to give any life

(29:04):
to this squad, right, and that's the thing. And the
Dodgers offense is pretty good. But instead, as soon as
Kershaw gives up that home run to make it four
to one, like you gotta go out and say, okay, sorry, man,
I'm sorry. It's been an amazing career. It's not your night.
But I'm still trying to win this game. It's a
three run lead for us right now. In the eighth inning,
we're gonna try to keep it at three. But instead

(29:25):
after the home on, Nope, gonna leave Kershaw out there.
Why because again, maybe he wants him to finish on
the mound. I don't want to look like I'm pulling
my guy in embarrass him, but I'm sorry, this is
the playoffs. This is not the time to You had
a nice party for Kershaw, you had a nice night
for him. You know, he was able to get the
three thousand strikeout, he was able to get his final start.
It was fantastic. He had to say goodbye to everybody.

(29:46):
That's how it goes man the playoffs. So yeah, there's
no there's no ceremonious good byes in the playoffs. Yes,
and this is Dave Roberts again, I'm like, dude, did
you really stop trying to win the game and more
protective of Clayton Kershaw?

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, and you just had a he did a big
throw by Key k Hernandez to save another run after
a double by Bryce Harper. You have a base hit
by Boem, but Key k comes up throwing and a
one hopper gets Harper at the plate. But again the
bleeding what we're gonna say at prosper.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
You would actually think that Kershaw did something that Dave Roberts'
family the way he's left him in this game to dry.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
No, but that's just it, right, Like, get it out
right because he got bail out.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
How I want to remember the greatest picture I've ever seen,
how this is supposed to go down?

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Right, You're going to that twenty one and nine. He
got help by the fact that you had to pick
off at first base right where he threw behind him
after a wild pitch.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
So, I mean, it's been all kinds of wrong, and
Roberts is just sitting there like this is totally cool. Yeah,
I mean I get that. I get that he wants
to protect his guy. I get that Dave Roberts wants
to Hey, it's Clayton. He's meant so much of this team,
as much as this franchise. But then he gives up
that home run. What's Clayton Kershaw going to say? No,
I still got it, Doc, No, I still got dory about.

(31:02):
I still got it dory about. It's got up two
home runs, some hard hit balls. Look, the Turner hit
was not particularly hard hit, but you hit them where
they ain't and two runs score.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
It's yeah, a lot of questions on this inning.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh man, this is Dave again. This is Dave Roberts,
like working against the Dodgers and trying to win over.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
This one's criminal. But your loyalty to your guys, I
mean in this one and this one is this is bad.
Six months in Gino. Yeah, this is this wo exit
outbout of Fresco, not wearing chinos in Gino, Galiforna.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Exit swollen dome and the Dodgers just needed a catch
at the wall. It's eight to end the innings, so
Kershaw will get to walk off the mound one more
time as a Dodger at least, But I mean this
was I mean, all they did was hit the ball
incredibly hard off of him the last couple of innings
and now what was game is now the Phillies with

(32:01):
momentum and going into game four.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
You got to make a better decision than that man
you got. It's it's business. It's not personal. It's it's
not I get you love him and he's your guy,
but it's business. You gotta go out and get him
at four.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
One fly out to the wall, happy that after crashing
into the wall that he held on to it and
the inning time.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
How to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports from someone who's been called the Clayton Kershaw of.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
All right, why so because you throw about as fast
as your left hand as he does.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Now it's mon.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
But that's funny. Yeah, I could be Kershaw. I mean,
who wouldn't want to be Kershaw?

Speaker 4 (32:42):
What a career.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
But that was not great. I mean Max Monzy could
have played that ball a little bit better at third
base to alleviate some of the HiT's. You know what
I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. So I'm not
gonna put it all on Kurshaw, but yeah, that was
that was raw, Philly.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
You gotta make a pitch after that.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
You do, absolutely, but it would have, you know, maybe
not been as bad give a bleed as it was.
It just felt like it got away so fast. And
thanks for Keikey Hernandez with that nice throw. I know
that was a great throw from left field to home
play to stop another run from scoring. But the Phillies
are up right now in a nice little fashion with
Kyle Schwarbro hitting his second home run of the day.

(33:18):
It's eight one, bottom of the eighth inning about to
start in LA again.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Dodgers are up.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Two zero, So this would just make it that we
see a game four tomorrow in LA. We're gonna see
a game four in Chicago because the Cubs extended the
series beating the Brewers today four to three. Blue Jays
defeated the Yankees five to two. They're headed to the
Alcs for the first time since twenty sixteen. Winning today
is game five to two. They outscored New York thirty

(33:44):
four to nineteen in this series, and the Tigers force
to game five. They defeated the Mariners nine to three,
that Game five is gonna be on Friday in Seattle.
In the WNBA, the Aces are one went away from
winning the title. They edged the Mercury ninety to eighty eight.
I just found that the WNBA is a best of seven.
Why is the best of seven?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
In the NFL, Jaguars are trading cornerback Tyson Campbell and
a seventh round pick to the Browns in exchange for
cornerback Greg Newsom and a sixth round pick. Couple players
that didn't practice today Raiders tight end Brock Bowers because
of a knee injury and Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson because
of his hamstring injury. Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray didn't practice
because of his foot injury. He's considered day to day. Also,

(34:25):
forty nine Ers quarterback Brock Party and wide receivers Ricky
Pearsol and Juwan Jennings, both.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Of them did not practice today.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
The NCAA approved a single January transfer window in college
football that will allow players on teams in postseason games
to remain eligible before entering the portal. And when it
comes to hockey, the Oilers are up on the Flames
three to one late in the second period, but Leon
Drycidle has reached four hundred career goals and the Kings

(34:52):
are up on the Golden Knights two to one halfway
through the second period.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Back to yell, Thank you very much, mo Jason Smiths.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Question. Sorry question?

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, sure, I should have asked the last hour. But
your dad's a Yankee? Can you're a Mets fan? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Why?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Tracks? Yeah, I just you know, I heard you say that.
I was like, that makes no sense. Why are you were.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
You're just like I'm mad at my dad today.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
It's dumb than that. Actually, I know you want to
answer what it was.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yes, when I started watching baseball when I was four
years old, I was a big baseball fan. And in
the seventies in black and white, well, you know, the Yankees.
Look in the second the Yankees and the Mets, right,
and the Yankees black and white uniforms.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Okay, my dad watched the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
But the Mets blue and orange, and I just love
watching them on the screen. So I watched the Mets
and that became my team.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Interesting, why are the blue and orange?

Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's one but the blue from the Dodgers and the
orange from the Giants.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
They closes the stripes, Yeah, the pin stripes for the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Again, he just likes blue and order. It was consistent.
I was four.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I should have realized that's a stupid thing to do.
What I should have been a Yankee fan. Well, someone
should have looked out for you at four years old.
Say you don't know what you mean. I just heard
the Mets were on television doing something together. Sure, that's
all I shore wins.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
And hey, then scored a run. They did this. That's great.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, I didn't care if they it's eight to one.
I saw them score a run. It was awesome that.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
And then they have mister Mett. Yeah, way better, mister Mett.
Mister Matt and Missus Matt and missus met show up.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
She always been around from the beginning.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Missus Mett.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Then she took a few years off, okay, and then
they brought her back and now it's mister and Missus Matt.
It's all good. Well I thinks only had enough money
to pay one mask off.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
I see that's what it is.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Okay, fine, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
You gotta go through the history at Missus Mett. At
this point, Exit Out showed.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Up at the late sixties, Exit Small and Dube, Jason Smith,
Mike Harment coming up next. We got more hot stuff
from the baseball playoffs and the Big Day in NFL News.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Give it here, Jason.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (37:13):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my bes.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Hey, look is Blake Trining live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. It's safe to bring Blake Trining in now
because it's the ninth inning of a seven run deficit,
So it's absolutely safe to bring him in now. This
is when you bring in Blake Tryning. That sounds about
right now. I mean, save all your other good guys
for the next day.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Nobody there for the ninth Yeah, a lot of empty
seats behind home play.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Two of my friends who went to the game tonight
just sent me a text saying half the stadium emptied
out in the eighth inning when Kershaw was giving up
was giving up runs. I mean, and that's it, really
And look, we talked about it. From the angle of
Dave Roberts has to go get Kershaw I'm sorry, but
it's the playoffs. You have to take him out after
he gives up the home under real muto because the

(38:01):
game is still four to one at that point. And
I get you love him and he's your guy. I
get what he means the Dodgers, but it's the playoffs.
It's business. But wow, to think about this for a second, right,
And we've talked about bad outs, right because Bill Belichick
clearly maybe out maybe done at North Carolina amidst the
reports they we'll get to that coming up next hour
on the show, but you know, Belichick North Carolina, like

(38:24):
we look at it and go, man, that's like seeing
Emmitt Smith as a cardinal, Joe Namaths as a ram,
Willie Mayses and met all these great athletes.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
It just I want to hang on. I want to
hang on. It's like, why why did this happen? It's
you know, On the conversely, we we're always going to
remember the short lived run of Urban Meyer. Yeah, remembering
predicting his demise and then it came much faster than
you could have ever thought.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
And when you when you see these proud athletes who
were so good for so long, and they're great and
That's why guys like I know, I get it's hard
to retire, but you know, guys like Brady or Lebron,
they will retire or make it decision to retire when
they know, Okay, I'm losing it a little bit. I'm
at the tipping point.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I may not be terrible, but I'm not gonna be average.
I'm not gonna be somewhere where I can I can
embarrass my It's not like I'm gonna be falling down
all the time, but I'm not gonna go out there
and be a lesser version of myself. And you want
to avoid against that. And for the most part, Kershaw
was fine this year, but clearly everything was great. Boy,
if that's the last time we see him, that is

(39:27):
really rough, man, that's a last That's a rough last
look at Clayton Kershaw. For the career, he has had
to have a game where after the first inning that
you have trouble throwing strikes, you walk to and again
twenty one pitches, nine of them strikes to go back
out there the next inning and give the criminal and
give up five runs. That give up two runs and

(39:49):
five runs like that's that's a really rough way to
see Clayton Kershaw's career end. Because after tonight, let's just
just think about this for a second, whether the Dodgers
win or not, right where they win the series, like, look,
they still have two more games to win. The Phillies
have to win the last two. Do you really think
Clayt Kersher is gonna pitch again? The Dodge are gonna
put him on a roster and he's gonna pitch again.

(40:09):
Do you really think we're gonna see Clayton Kershaw pitch
one more time in his career? Yeah, next series, this
is good, but really, next series will see him. You
think they're gonna keep him on the roster next series?

Speaker 4 (40:20):
They have to? I think I think I think, like
as Justin says, I think they have to. We'll get
the other option.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
I can't remember him like that.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Sandy Kofax can come out and pitch at ninety and
I'd rather have him just put the hat on, go
back out.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
They're ready to give me the ball. I'm ready to
throw that was That's unacceptable, and that's all on Dave Roberts.
That is not how we're gonna just it. I don't
understand it though, like to your point, he pitched that
that first inning he got bailed out by by picking
off Schwarber. Right, Will Smith fires down to first and
is able to pick him off. So it helps to exacerbate,
or I should say, takes away the strength of what

(40:57):
that inning could have been. Right, Uh, because that was
going south in a hurry, So you got you got
a gift in that regard. But that second inning, as
soon as he gives up the home run, you don't
have anybody throwing, like there was nobody throwing, so that
inning starts to you had to have somebody right understand
how you didn't have y? Yeah, like that's that's like
that's managing one on one. Hey, we had a guy

(41:18):
that's going out there for another inning who was really dicey.
And I'm sorry that you know, we give up a
home run, but it's the playoffs, man, this out ends
you in the play We don't get him before it
gets really really bad, and instead it just got so bad.
What was Dave Roberts, I can't go get him now.
You gave away the game. You gave away the game
from four one to eight one. Yeah, I was looking
for the word Amelior eight. I was going for the opposite. Wow,

(41:39):
that's a pretty good word. Yeah. Well, I was going
for the fight hour word, and I picked the wrong one.
But now you look at the You'd already used Banda,
you'd already used dryer.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
He was your fourth pitcher. You thought that was gonna
be the end of it time. I mean, I'm telling you,
I think this might be the last time we see
Kershaw on the mound. We got more baseball reacts and
a big story out of the NFL.

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