December 18, 2025 • 40 mins
Puka Nacua - He's right - sort of. Yes, the refs are human, but it's not that refs want to be on TV. It's they all want to put their stamp on the game - they want to matter - and sometimes go over the top with it. And after today, there's no doubt Joe Burrow wants out of Cincinnati & he's laying the groundwork for it a la Aaron Rodgers/Russell Wilson. Maybe it's this off-season, maybe it's next. But it's happening!
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and I love putting this content out for you every
single day. So today has been a day for RAM
Superstar wide receiver Puka Nakua. Early in the day. Big
(01:21):
headlines we're gonna get to in a minute. Surrounding comments
he made on a live stream about NFL referees, really
called them the worst. I'm sure it's a big fine
coming his way. We're gonna you're gonna hear from that
coming up in a couple of minutes. But then later
on today, Oh, by the way, this story broke NBC
(01:42):
in La breaking this that Adu Thiero, rookie for the Lakers,
had his SUV stolen over the weekend. Okay, so LAPD
went out and they found it. Two men were arrested
for the theft of the suv, which was to him,
you know, the suv being taken without his consent. And
(02:03):
one of them is the brother of Rams wide receiver
Poka Nakula. So a bit of a day in the
Nakula household overall for this. You have the you have
the comments about the referees. You have his brother getting
arrested after taking the stuv. Yeah, that's a that's that's
a that's a day, man, that's a full day.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's a Wednesday for you.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, and the the backstory with the you know how
he got to these comments, there's also a potential touchdown
celebration that depending on you know, how you're interpreting or
you know, with Aiden Ross, the guy that he's working
with and his history, uh may take on a whole
other level of significance for Pooka Nakua. So uh yeah,
(02:44):
for for those siblings, a miserable day that might get worse. Yeah,
Now it's it's unclear if it's straight theft, because it's
unclear if the if Pukah's brother and then the other
guy in this took the suv without permission, or if
they he just took it right like they knew the
guy and they said, oh, he's not gonna mind if
we take his car. They took it to a hotel
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and they valaid it and they went in the hotel.
So it's one of them. But obviously, you know, you
take somebody's car you don't know, and then you know
that's that's a that's a crime. So I mean the
fact that that valet is I mean there's at least
a paper trail of stuff. Hey hey Garson, Yeah, hey, hey,
I'm valeting this car. Listen, it's hot, okay, because because
no one knows that I have it, So just so
(03:26):
you know, put this in the back somewhere where nobody
can get to it, all right, just say that's going
to be in the records there, right, they have cameras
up front, they have like so that would be very
easily figured out. And now it just becomes the all right,
are you gonna press charges on these guys or was
it just a harmless prank gone berserk? Both men are
still behind bars at this point, So now, yeah, Pooka's
(03:49):
gonna have to answer questions about his brother and his
comments about the officials.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So so that, like I would it be a joke.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You can't just take the car and say just kidding.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, oh no, you you've had.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Friends, it's no longer a joke.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter the reason you give,
you know, I mean, it is a little it is
a little different. I think there's a because of what
I think we're seeing with the story. The way it's
worded is that there's a difference in theft and taking
a car without permission. I don't know what it is,
but leg that legal distinction legal. I don't know what
the legal distinction is, but I assume there's a Jason.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'll take your car without permission tomorrow, then.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay, man, I'll call the police.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Other we're following a we're following a green car and
Jets colors that now has Laker flags outside the back
of it. And wow, the person driving is is giving
up a middle finger to everybody. Drive that's justin Frostburg. Everybody,
that's Chargers radio producer, justin Frostburg. Let's hear the cannon
for Fraustbera.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He drives around.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He's just pinballing it off of little barriers and the
tire is like bobbing up and down as it goes
one more time. Frostburg took it to his shop and
had some hydraulics put in. So now he's bouncing along
the highway and the man of the car is not
being charged with any sort of traffic violations. It doesn't
(05:11):
look like the lights are working. So he's actually signaling
or hand signaling for all. I'm gonna make a left
hand turn here, coming to a stop there, and his
hand is down, hand is straight out for.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
A left up.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's up.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
He's gonna make a right hand turn right.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Now, So following along, he's really signaling. I think he's gesturing,
and he's just a subject to interpretation.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I remember when I took my driver's test when I
went and and they just went over like very briefly
doing hand signals when you drive, like give you a
hand signals.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You have to know these.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, that's great. I had to know it for the
written test. So I got to take my driver's test,
my road test, and I talked to the instructor and
I asked the right questions and every that I said, okay,
hand signals, he goes, oh, absolutely. I wanted to go really, man, really,
my hand signals. I can't stop putting my hand down. Stop,
But you're gonna make me turn the wheel with my
hand out and know when to bring it back. Come on, man, really,
(05:59):
I mean, I know this was the eighties, but I
mean we still we had electronic turn singles. It's not
like you had to beep the horn and yell out
and go I'm gonna turn left, left hand turn coming,
so he maybe so. I was nervous as hell. I'm like,
how am I gonna do this?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Man? But the kid pay.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I just put a speaker system over the top of
the car like I was the Blues Brothers. I'm going
to make a left turn now. I've always loved you brother,
theodora and the car goes so uh. Now, the other
part for Pooka is dealing with his conversation that he
had on a live stream that I'm sure is going
(06:34):
to get him fine. Now he's on at and Ross's
live stream and he's asked about NFL officials and this
is his answer what he thinks about the referees in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
The wor there's something the whos aren't then like, these.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Guys want to be These guys are lawyers and like.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Real that they want to be on TV too, brother,
Like off the game, you don't think he's He's texting
his friends and the group chat like, yo, you guys
just saw me Sunday night football. Like that was a
way that wasn't p I like what I called it
was serious. I mean, these guys are noble human beings too.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Woo.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's such a huge file will fight for you.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, Wow, that's gonna Hey if I'm Roger Goodella, I
want to say, hey, I want to thank you, Pookah.
This fine is going to pay for all the holiday
parties for every NFL team across the team, every team
they want to throw a big hot they need fifty
grand apiece. We're gonna be able to do it to
you because we're taking all your money for this. About
the officials, they just want to be on TV. These
(07:31):
guys are lawyers. You don't think they're texting as friends
in the group shot. Like you saw me on SNF.
It wasn't p I, but I called it wow. Like
I mean it when I say live stream is the
new podcast, Like if you really want to get in
an athlete loose lipped and saying stuff that. Upon further review,
he goes, Man, I probably shouldn't have said that doing
(07:53):
the Haggard probably should have told you it up, it's
live stream now instead of he used to be podcasts. Right,
you're sitting down, you know, you taking a coffee and
you're just yapping for twenty minutes telling stories. Yeah, this
is great, This is great. Yeah, there's no no microphone,
no cameras around in it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
No, but now live stream is a new thing. Right,
it's a loose atmosphere. Maybe you're playing video games whatever. Yeah,
we're up, we're live man, we're just talking. We're just
talking that. Everything is good, okay, And this is when
you get athletes saying things they shouldn't it. Live stream
is a new podcast. Have any of these guys gone
in their local markets? This is what we need to
figure out. During Sundays games, you'll find me as the
back judge. But Monday through Friday, I will fight for you.
(08:32):
Call me and my team. We've gotten over. I mean,
how many millions of dollars do you have to have
in settlements to count as a as a leader out
here in Los Angeles? Unless you got like four or
five hundred million butt next to your name, I know
nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I fight for you. I'll fight for you.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Carriage Parker got me, I have Larryage.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I will fight for the football.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I will make sure I come down with it in
traffic for you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You watch you.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Fight for that extra yard on Sundays, and we'll measure
it as succinctly and specifically as we can to get
you the damages you are owed. Oh no, no, you
fight for the football on Sunday. I'll fight for you
in court on Monday. We'll work together and get you
that betday. I am throwing a flag on the treatment
you've received from your insert business.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
There will be no need to replay the verdict here,
you win, you get the money.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But look, the thing is, is he is he right? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Is Pooka right about refs being on TV? And don't
you want to see when now Fox and CBS on
Sunday introduce the officials and what they do in the
off season, Like don't you want to see that? They go,
here's your officiating creutinay with what they do in the
off season. Lawyer, lawyer, partner at you know Smith and Harmon,
you know partner Frostburg and ty shirt partner partner real.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But is he right?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Is he right? They want to get on TV? They're
human people too. You don't think they're texting his friends
in the group chat like you saw me on Sunday
Night Football. Yeah, guys in their sixties are on a
group chat about look at me calling this penalties?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Some of them are in a human he.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Is he is right in that they're human and they
do want attention. Okay, now follow me on this. They
want to be on TV. Okay, dude, the back judge
is not going to try to get on TV all
the time. Again, you have you have one you have
one official that's on that's on TV. That's calling that.
That's calling the penalties the other guys. Right, they appear
(10:33):
a little bit. Sometimes they're on camera. Sometimes you don't
see them. They don't speak, they don't say anything. It's
not about guys being on TV. Right, But why do
you want to be an official in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Right? You want to be a part of the game. Right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You want to be a part of the jazz. You
want to be a part of what's going on.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And I and I get that this is where he's
right when he says, you know, people are human. And
as someone who has dealt with referees in in in
many different ways, that'll be at U sports. But I
I have a pretty good idea. I talked to a
lot of you know, people who referee in college and
higher levels, and I will tell you this. Everybody who referees, right,
(11:12):
they all love the power, and they all want to
put their own imprint on the game. They all wanted
they all want it to be. Yes, it's the Rams
and the Seahawks and the officials, right. They want to
put their imprint on the game somehow, whether it's Carl
Cheffer's crew, that's no, we're gonna call these penalties in
the final two minutes. I don't care what you say,
because we should call these penalties because yes, because I
(11:34):
like the attention and I like putting my stamp on
the game.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's really what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's officials are human in that they want to put
their stamp on the game.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Why do you see a defensive back like a sauce
Gardener all of a sudden, Hey boy, he's got three
holding penalties in the first ten minutes of this game.
Why would the official is out for that penalty and
he wants it for whatever reason. He has zeroed in
that sauce Gardner likes to use his hands too much,
and I'm throwing the flag on him. Right, That's what
it is. It's not about being on TV because he's
It's like these guys get taken on and say anything
(12:04):
to their to their wives or their kids or anything
else again or their law partners. Hey vern, Hey, I'll
see you Monday. I'll be in that deposition meeting at
ten o'clock. Right, the last game is Sunday. I'll see
you there Monday. No, but they all like the power.
They all want to put their own imprint on the game.
And it's baffling, and it's maddening, and it's not consistent
because it's it's you know, some some officials favor one
(12:26):
thing over the other. But that's where he has a
point in that this is what officials are out. I
want to put my imprint on the game, and if
I'm calling it straight up, if I'm doing things, you know,
strictly by the book. Hey, A lot of referees are
okay with that. Some aren't, right, you see, you see
why there's certain certain crews at call mall penalties. Right.
I think everybody knows Jerome Boger. He's been on TV
more than Tom Brady over the course of his career
(12:48):
when he was officiating. So you know these guys, right,
because Carl Cheffer's crew, we know, we know these names.
So that's really what it is. It's about the It's
about the imprint they want to have on the game
more than just all they want to be on TV. Yeah,
I mean I worked the game. You know. The old
rule of thumb is you didn't want to be talked about,
or at least that was the the rumor conjecture speculator.
I don't want to be part of it. I want
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to officiate it. And if I don't hear your name,
that's the best. And then I mean, look at what
we have in baseball. You mentioned a couple of the
principles in football. Right in baseball, Angel Martinez, guys like
that they were names, right, and they add the notoriety.
Say that again, Sean Hockey Lee.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Mean, just go on down the line. Right, You've got
all of those guys that you know have their imprint
either here here's the gun show, or I'm going to
give you a forty five minute answer as to why
this is a penalty. Because now my microphone's open, so hey,
let's go. It's open mic night. You know, the left
tackle lined up a little bit ahead and and like,
(13:52):
I don't know, I just called the penalty and move on.
But I don't need a monologue about the That's why
they hired the guys in in the booth for CBS
and Fox to do that for us, right, the former officials.
But it's it's just that part of the impront of
the game, and you know the points of emphasis. Certainly
the guys that don't have a microphone, they want to
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show that their eyes work and that they're part of
the game, and they're gonna have an imprint. I mean,
we've joked about it a lot, right, people go Already
the next three weeks, what Kansas City get any calls
with Gardner Minshew in search?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Ok?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Oh no, hey, there goes Mahomes. And as I watched
him leave the field, they all say, there.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Goes the guy.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We're getting all the call You're not getting those calls anymore. Everybody,
good luck, play it straight up, good luck. I'll see
how it goes. Good luck, see how that works out.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You just wait till they give Gardner Minshew up Mahomes's calls.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
They're gonna just gonna put Minshew in Mahomes this jersey
and they'll forget I forgot it was it was Minshew
not Mahomes. Ah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I shouldn't have thrown that flag. My fault.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
My bet it just shows up.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
He just shows up. Nebraska gear and eyes surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
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(15:21):
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Speaker 1 (16:18):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. So uh, speaking of Adam Sandler, Yeah,
saying about him earlier today when he was at the Oscars,
did his whole shallow may bit. Now I'm gonna be
at Veterans Park playing here at midnight. Uh, big news
(16:41):
in the Oscars is going to YouTube. It's gonna be Yeah,
I'm on YouTube in twenty twenty nine. Nobody under the
age of sixty is gonna be able to find it.
It's never gonna forget the Oscars, which is an older
watch anyway, forbid no one. No one over the age
of sixty gonna find it. Nobody Well, and while you're
on youtub for it, I don't even know. I don't
(17:02):
even know where it is. I can't find it. Wait, oh,
come on, it's not that hard anymore. Hang on, look,
wait a minute, here it is. I'm getting I type
in Oscars. Okay, wait, Oscar Madison, Oscar the Grouch, Oscar Meyer, Oscar, Oscar,
Oscar Oscars, Oscar, Oscar Goldman. That's six million dollar Man's boss.
Oscar Okay, Oscar Okay, Oscars. I mean really, I mean,
(17:23):
here goes the Oscars to YouTube, right, And you know
what the thing is, I get it because the Oscars
has been hemorrhaging viewers for the better part of the
last decade plus. Because look, it's one of those things
where you thought the Oscars was gonna live forever. Is
the number one thing in entertainment every year all you know,
thirty forty million people watching the Oscars. And then people
(17:44):
started going away from the Oscars when people, you know
a lot of movie goers got a little disenfranchised with
how they awarded the Oscars and who they gave Oscars to.
Basically became a lifetime achievement award. Then when the pandemic
came and the broadcast, we're awful, and and now we're
gonna nominate ten films and most of most of them
(18:04):
are films that nobody has seen. Like it's just they're
just leeching viewers year after year after year. They had
to do something bold, They had to do something where
it looks like they're still room for growth. So yeah,
so in a few years, we're gonna go to streaming
and and we're gonna get money for it. Right, I'm
sure you know they're getting money for this. And if
the viewership is down, it's okay, because it's streaming.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We're building.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And what what the Oscars has done is they've bought
themselves a decade more of relevance.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hey, if the if the.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Viewership is down and you know, hey, yes, we know
in a couple of years it's going to YouTube, and
and this is what's gonna happen. And they've bought themselves time.
They've they've had a big problem and they've just kicked
that can down the road. They got some I'm sure
they got more money, and they realize that now in
twenty twenty nine, if less people watch doesn't matter, because
we're gonna measure it all different ways because it's streaming,
it's here, it's here. People are picking this up, and
(18:52):
we can we can obfuscate it and make it seem
like the Oscars is still great. Meanwhile, less and less
people are watching it every year. Yeah, let's see one
hundred fifty million dollars in revenue for the Academy during
the fiscal year that ended June thirtieth, the vast majority
of which came with the rights deal of ABC Disney
sniffing amount of related content because that's part of it, right,
that all the ancillary content that goes through it, with
(19:16):
the red carpet shows and behind the scenes and all
the buy in you get from the nominees and the process.
Because this will then leak back into deals with the
studios and production companies themselves to get exclusive content as
they promote and pimp out their wares for the opportunity
(19:39):
to be in front of you. You know, it just
becomes the different system that needs to get fed to
push forward. So, yeah, it'll be interesting to watch. The
Google Arts and Culture Initiative is what they're calling it,
to help provide digital access to selects, exhibitions, and programs
and digitize more than the fifty two million items that
(20:00):
are currently part of the Academy collection. So there's a
whole other scope to this when you talk about the
history of movies and the art and everything. There's a
museum here that's been opened in Los Angeles, but the
bowels that have so much stuff that you can call
that hasn't seen the light of day in forever that
(20:20):
you know, there's a vast reservoir of interviews and content
to go and build out this whole universe. And while
you're at it, at YouTube Slash at Jason Smith's show,
in case you get bored with the preachiness of the
Oscar speeches.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah we're there now, going, We're there for you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
We're there now We're already ahead of the head of
the game. So yeah, in four years, who is Joe
Burrow playing quarterback for? Because I'll tell you what after today,
doubling down, it ain't gonna be the Bengals. It was
last week Joe Burrow had his very oh what a
human moment press cops from Joe Burrow talking about his
(20:58):
frustrations with the game.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, yeah, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Joe Burrow is also pretty He's a pretty savvy guy.
He knows what he's saying, he knows how his words
are going to be interpreted. And the fact that he
said a week ago at a press conference he wants
to be happy. He's got to find happiness in the
game and that's what he needs to be able to
go forward. Hey, he's telling you, I'm not happy here
in Cincinnati anymore. I'm not happy getting my ass kicked
(21:22):
and we're not winning, and we didn't build on the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I am not happy. And I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Not the first athlete to be unhappy with the Bengals
and Mike Brown not the last. So I get that
he wants out. We talked about it last week. Yeah,
he is sounding the alarm that he wants out, if
he was talking about retiring, or if he was unhappy
because it was something outside of football. Yeah, guys generally
don't say that they if they're gonna retire, They don't
throw it out there, I might retire. They don't throw
(21:47):
it out there about whatever personal things they might be
going through. This is really yet another another instance of Hmmm,
here's a superstar that knows how to play the media right,
and here's and I don't doubt Burrow about his happiness
or anything else, but you know when you put that
message out there getting close to the end of the year,
you're eliminated from the playoffs. You're frustrated. Yeah, you've tried
(22:09):
to make it work in Cincinnati and you haven't. And
you're at the midway point of your career. You've been
hurt a lot. You want to play in front of
an offensive line that's actually good. You want to be
able to do these things, and you know that the
Bengals don't have a great track record for saying, oh,
we're so sorry you're unhappy. Here, we'll trade you wherever
you want to go. Right now, we're gonna screw you.
We send Carson Palmer to the Raiders and ended his
(22:30):
guy's career, right, so just so you know, so he
knows it's gonna be hard. So that was the take
last week. You would think after the firestorm, if Joe
Burrow really didn't mean it to be about the Bengals,
he would have shut down a lot of things. He
would shut down all the talk about it and say, look, guys,
I don't know what you're saying. This is not what
it's about. I'm here, I'm playing X, Y and Z.
(22:52):
But instead, today he gets asked if he ever envisioned
playing for another franchise, And here was Joe Burrow answer
to that question.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
A lot of crazy things happen every year.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Michael Parsons got traded right before the sea, right before
the season. I think this year is something I hadn't
seen in a long time in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So crazy things gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You know what that means. That's him saying to thirty
one other teams, come and get me, Come and get me,
come here, Come and get me, save me, save me.
I am here, Come and get me. Because the answer
to that question is no, No, I don't envision play
I'm happy here. I love playing here. I want to
make it work. That's the answer you give. That's the
answer the quarterback skive. That's what you say when you're
the frace of the franchise and you're getting that kind
(23:38):
of money and you know what you say matters, that's
the answer you give. But instead, crazy things happen every year.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I could be on a new team next year. I mean,
is there any way he is on the Bengals next year,
even though he even said, hey, it's hard for me
to believe I'm somewhere else a few days ago because
of the money and his contract wise, but he's putting
that out there, saying, let's make it work. You know
a team's gonna want me. It's easier to trade for
Joe Burrow and pay him a lot of money. That
(24:06):
is a trade for Tua and pay him a lot
of money. So yeah, this is this is Joe Burrow
doubling down and he is saying, come and get me.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I want out. And if I.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Don't know, there's any other way you could think of
this other than he wants phone calls to happen. He
wants to talk to other teams. He wants other teams
to call. He wants to start shaking this tree a
little bit because he's seen how it's worked, right, He's
seen how it works in other sports. When stars want out,
they have.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
To say it.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They can't say, well, no, no, no, we're kind of
we're kind of, you know, looking at different things we
haven't asked.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
He knows you gotta be public with your request and
that's how you get things done.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You go back to James Harden. You know, I'm just
gonna say bad things about people with the organization till
they tell me I'm out, and then I go wind
up getting traded. That he knows this is how it works.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Again.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Burrow is a smart guy, right, He's a smart dude.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He gets it.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And if there was any question that last week didn't
go the way he wanted to, he would shut down
every one of these questions.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
But he's not.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
He is still feeding them. He wants out. He is
hoping by next year, maybe he's he thinks, well, even
in a Russell Wilson kind of way, if it's not
next year, it's the year after and I'm thirty and
the back half of my career. I want a Matthew
Stafford like back half of my career where I'm on
a team that wins. I'm sure he sees that with
Stafford going man, the guy toiled in obscurity for years
(25:26):
with the Lions, and look at the last five years
he's at. He's got a super Bowl. He's gonna have
the MVP. That's what I want. This is what I'm
looking at. But I gotta start laying the groundwork now, and.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Maybe I will.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I will throw this out there. Maybe it's not enough
to happen for next year, but for two years from now. Okay,
but he wants it to happen. He wants to happen tomorrow.
But he understands it's not an overnight process and it
needs to be something that takes on its own life.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But you never know.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
You never know what a team is gonna say, Hey,
here's our draft picks, here's our quarterback and more draft picks.
Give us Joe. We love Joe Brow. Joe Burrow is great,
and I love Joe Burrow. So let's go do it.
So you never know, but you got to put it
out there, and he's putting it out there.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
This is his plan.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, the last week has just been odd, right, You
go back to that thing where you might as well
have had the little riverband playing cool Change behind him,
and you know the albatross and the whaler, they are
my brother. As he contemplated the meaning of life, and
people were like, well, you can walk away with the
Andrew Luck. No, no, no, this guy just did a
grueling rehab. He wasn't quitting. And then Sunday he gave
(26:27):
me what can only be described as a poor effort
against the ravens, one that just really which one of
these is not like the other is in terms of
his entire football career, going back to smoking a cigar
at LSU. He's like, all right, after you know that
soulful speech. I really thought in between the white lines
(26:49):
you'd find some happiness and instead, well we got what
we got. Now you have this. And at some point
he's just got to embrace a guy who was active
going back and what was it night ninety six in
the WWF raise a ramone with It's okay to be
the bad guy. At some point you just have to
(27:10):
say this is I can't dance on the fence because
I'm gonna keep getting asked these questions and the reporter
I get I give him credit like he he stumbled
and fumbled through it because he didn't want to ask
it directly, but eventually got there of the well do
you envision and the NFL and then's like no, no, no,
just ask him you want to trade? Are you looking
to get traded? Just you know, let's just throw it
(27:32):
out there instead. You know, you get this medium outh
thing coming back. And there's no question it's on his mind.
It's the instead of saying, hey, a lot needs to
change or I want out, he's trying to be nice
about it and keeps up. But no, eventually, as you
say with James Harden, remember when he was overseas doing
his shoe deals, yelling, hey, let me do that again
(27:52):
for the guy in the back. Yeah, that's what Joe
Burrow needs to do at some point. And again, like
he's basically when he says, oh, Michael Parsons got trader,
like he's saying, whoa, the team might decide to trade me.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like whoa, whoa, whoa? What? Wait?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Why are you saying we're trying to trade? He wants out?
And for the first time, I'll tell you this, I'm
getting a little excited because the Bengals don't really want
to trade him to where he wants to go. They'll
trade him, but they'll want to screw him. Where else
can you screw him worse? Where the Bengals can say, hey,
we're gonna send you someplace worse than us because we
can get a lot of draft picks. Because oh, by
(28:25):
the way, they just got a lot of draft picks
at the trade deadline. Hey, here's the first we got
from from the Cowboys for Quentin Williams, and what we
got from the culture sauce gardener and Joe Burrow's quarterback
of the Jets next year. Look at you, buddy, let's
go at Yoe. You just went straight over the board.
You leapt from just past your first roll of the
(28:47):
dice all the way back home with the Jets, and
you stomped on it like a little kid with both feet.
Oh noll of suddenly thinking, Joe Burrow at met life man,
So if thin could have we have picks, And the
Bengalis say, yeah, as bad as we are, it's worse
with them. So we're we'll trade you there. That's fine.
We're not gonna trade you to a team that we
think could be good you think, just wait, but this one,
(29:12):
I don't think he has any kind of no trade things,
so I.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Think he's kind of screwed.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It just would become a will not report. Yeah, well
be in Gotham City. Yeah, yees see, that's why it's happening. Man,
that rights itself. Remember those old posters and all those
guys back in the day. There's your commercial right there.
That is your commercial right there, undred percent. Didn't you
have a Dark Knight with the Mets at one point? Yeah,
(29:39):
but okay, well need a new Dark Knight. He'll be
the new Dove. And he had just recast just a
guy like.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Ndk new Dark Knight.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He's new dark ndyk Uh time how to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports. And someone
who's been called the Batman of Fox Sports Radio because.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
It's I would love to be a billionaire superhero that
doesn't really have a superpower.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well, you're incredibly rich, that's your's that would.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Be the superpower.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
That would be the super I would love that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I would love that what Robert wool said in the
nineteen eighty nine classic.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
But then you think of other superheroes and I'm like, damn.
I would like to have some sort of, you know,
ability above the normal if I was a superhero, not
just a billion Yeah, no, that's not good enough.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I want to I want to be able to read
people's brains.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I want to be able to read people's brains.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
That's what that's that's creepy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
That is creepy. If it limits then.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Oh I'm just saying I would like to read people's minds. Whatever,
bar whatever bar All right, well start here with NFL news.
Why not Thursday night football Rams and Seahawks still not update,
but it seems like the Rams I'm not flown to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They were supposed to fly.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Out around four pm Low Gold time, which is seven
pm Eastern, but they had some sort of mechanical issue,
something with the flight equipment issue on the plane. Significant delay,
so less than twenty four hours later they still had
an off flown out to Seattle. Rams are also listing
wide receiver DeVante Adams's doubtful for tomorrow's game because of
(31:19):
his hamstring injury. Other NFL news, the Associated Press has
a story that Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes has begun rehab
following the surgery he had to repair his two torn ligaments,
and the team is optimistic that he could be back
early next season, perhaps even by the time Kansas City
plays Week one. Associated Press has the story the Jets
(31:41):
are once again gonna start undrafted Ricky Brady Cook for
Sunday's game at New Orleans. Falcons are gonna have Drake London.
At least he was at practice today. He's missed the
last four games with a knee injury. Buffalo Bills have
designated wide receiver Micole Hardman to return from injured reserve.
In the NBA, the league has fined Rockets said coach
imu Udoka twenty five thousand dollars for publicly criticizing the
(32:03):
officials after Monday's overtime loss to Denver.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Even though they came out and said he was right.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Indeed, you're right. Three times.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
It's like, you're right, but you can't talk to us
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
So we're gonna find you.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Josh Giddy with a six triple double of the season,
and the Bulls defeated the Cavaliers one twenty seven to
one eleven, while the Grizzlies pulled away in the fourth
quarter to defeat the Timberwolves on the road one sixteen
to one ten. In men's college hoops, the last game
has wrapped up Number seven Gonzaga Cruz pass Campbell ninety
to seventy, but number thirteen Vanderbilt stays undefeated. They survived
(32:42):
seventy seven to seventy against Memphis in overtime. In the
NHL one game going on, it's the Devils in the
Golden Knights, and the Devils are up right now. One
is zero late in the second period while the Hurricanes
outscored the Predators four to one.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch much, yess. The
Jason Smith Show with a best friend Mike Carmon, Joe
Burrow quarterback New York Jets, Oh, broad Jets, Broadway Joe,
we'd have another Broadway.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Joe rights itself.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, don't start trying to speak to in New existence.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Put that evil on me justin.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Come on, man, a couple more hits to the head.
You're getting to it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Didn't I pay for a sticks cover band and a
nacho fountain at your wedding? Come on, man to me,
you can't do that to me. Coming up next, are
we about to see one superstar quarterback a lot sooner
back from injury than we thought. That's next Jason and
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Speaker 2 (33:40):
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Speaker 1 (34:00):
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Speaker 2 (34:09):
This might be my new favorite tight shirt.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It really might be my new favorite wizardry right there, so.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Divriend so.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
In the pantheon of boy This seems a little too
early for this headline. Well, this is kind of where
we're at. Not only has Patrick Mahomes already undergone surgery
for his torn ACL and LCL that he suffered on Sunday,
reports today he has already begun his rehab and the
aim is for him to come back for week one
(34:49):
of next season, and that is what is expected right now,
that he'll return for Week one next year. Now, ACLS
a serious injury, but with the advancements of medicine, it
all depends on the injury. So the fact that it's
a CL l CL, you know it's a serious deal obviously,
But her reports that the greater part of the structure
(35:11):
of the knee, which is really what you're worried about
that was fine. So now this is gonna be rest
and rehab and coming back.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
He's hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Now this is the middle of December, and I get
that he is. It's great that he's attacking it because
he's still in season mode, right, He's still he's playing,
and he's pissed. The Chiefs are pissed they didn't make
the playoffs, as we talked about a few days ago.
Get the Chiefs now, because you know it's gonna be
a completely new team next year. Maybe Andy Reids the coach,
maybe not, but it's gonna be a new star running back.
(35:43):
There's gonna be a new big time wide receiver, either
a wide receiver one or a one A with where
she Wrice's gonna be a new big time tight end.
They know they gotta go after better weapons. Mahomes is
gonna be motivated. I honestly, even though it's an acl
LCL injury, we've seen it, I have there is no
doubt in my mind that Patrick Mahomes is gonna be
ready for Week one. You're talking about coming back now, Yes,
(36:06):
it's a nine month injury. We're at the end of December,
but how much does he really need? How much football
does he need to come back? I know it's gonna
be an everyday storyline for Mahomes once we get into
the summer. Is he ready? Is he going to be back?
And it's Patrick Mahomes after all. I mean, come on,
the guy's been the best quarterback in the NFL for
the better part of the past decade. It's gonna be
an everyday thing. What is Mahomes doing now?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Can he do this?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Can he not? And it's gonna be great to follow it.
But I have no doubt that by the time we
get to opening day next year, which is second week
of September, They're not gonna play Thursday night. I have
no doubt that Mahomes is under center for the Chiefs
in Week one. My favorite is the vice president of
Sports Medicine and Performance, Rick Bergholder, gave this comment. Everything
that he had in this neither wait the guy the
(36:49):
coach team USA that they got rid of. He's now
given statements Wow, okay, yeah, he's now the director of
performance Performance. Everything he had in his injury was fixable, correctable,
and it was fixed on Monday night by doctor Cooper.
He had no artery damage, no nerve damage, no joint
surface damage, no meniscal damage. He's already started rehab down
in Dallas and he'll do that through tomorrow and be
(37:10):
back here on Friday. As you know in the past
with Patrick and his injuries, he attacks them and does
very well. And he's in that mode right now. That
is more than you ever get. The surgery was successful.
All right, leave me alone here. We're doing a full presser.
Doctor Cooper spoke like you had this whole thing. We're
season ticket deposits due. Hey, is Patrick gonna be back
(37:32):
or not? Cause I gotta know because they're chasing me
down for a check. The way that is, it makes
it sound like he could be back for the end
of the season, like, hey, he could be back for
week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Final they're also stealing there, stealing near quotes from Jim Harbaugh.
He attacks it with a ferocity unknown to man. Yeah, man,
one hundred percent, Like I mean, but I'm also gonna
get you that trick. I'm gonna give you this from
a homes too.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I'll give you this mahomes too.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
He's gotten a lot the last couple of years about
his dad bought and still able to play at a
high level. But look, you know, every athlete gets to
a point where they know, okay, really have to start
taking care of my body. And Mahomes, you see him
not the guy you not as sculpted as as some
players generally are. Think about how many rushing yards he
would have had if he was Jason, but you had
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had like a thousand yards this year. I mean, and
maybe he's someone that thought, I need a little bit
more weight to take the hits because I'm gonna be
running the football a little bit more often. But I
also have a sneaking suspicion it's going to be a
much more chiseled different body Patrick Mahomes when he comes
back next year. It's the middle of the middle of
his career. Yeah, the middle well, and you'll be able
(38:42):
to see it, right, You'll see it in his body obviously,
you know what kind of shape he's in. But I
have a sneaking suspicion. Okay, now I want to make
sure I'm in the betch. I don't want to have
this injury happen again. I want to be able to
be strong enough to take hits, but I want to
be able to get out from a bad situation. I
want to be able to be light enough to avoid
a big hit, to be able to spin out they hit.
I know now ath to start taking care of my body.
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And for every athlete, sometimes it comes to them early
in their career. Sometimes it comes to them late in
their career, or midway in their career. They understand, Okay,
I've been getting by so often because I've been in
my twenties. Now things are slowing down a little bit.
The hits are starting to pile up. I guarantee you
he's a He's a different body next year when he
comes back. And we're looking at like we watched Skinny
Luca over the course of the off season of this
(39:23):
year for the Lakers, It's wow, Look look at Rip Patrick.
You know I'd be coming back to play next year.
That's gonna be the other thing from a homes So
he's already got that photo shoot for Men's Health and
Fitness Schedule. I no like Luke ready to go, man.
I gotta say though, one of my favorite things to
track the last few years you and I've been doing
this show together. The body of James Harden. Was he
or was he not wearing a fat suit? And the
(39:46):
final years of Ben Roethlisberger when he would show up
to training camp and then he would lose twenty pounds
during camp.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, I'm ready for the season.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, the way guys did it in the seventies where
they had like no activity and they show up at
training camp to get in shape for the season. I
haven't done anything for like three months. I've been on
the beach in Cabo, So yeah, I'll get back in
shape now. No, it's not that way anymore. Man, It's
you had a work on or they were working o
their jobs. I man, the guys in Chicago, they were
selling meat and beer and delivering milk in the offseason.
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Exit out Voutofrasca, Exit Swollen Down. The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon Coming up next. We
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we be seeing a team in Northwest Indiana? Plus we'll
give you our big pick for a huge TNF game.
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takes you like the most? It is there again, Mike
and I love putting this content out for you every
single day. So today has been a day for RAM
Superstar wide receiver Puka Nakua. Early in the day. Big
(01:21):
headlines we're gonna get to in a minute. Surrounding comments
he made on a live stream about NFL referees, really
called them the worst. I'm sure it's a big fine
coming his way. We're gonna you're gonna hear from that
coming up in a couple of minutes. But then later
on today, Oh, by the way, this story broke NBC
(01:42):
in La breaking this that Adu Thiero, rookie for the Lakers,
had his SUV stolen over the weekend. Okay, so LAPD
went out and they found it. Two men were arrested
for the theft of the suv, which was to him,
you know, the suv being taken without his consent. And
(02:03):
one of them is the brother of Rams wide receiver
Poka Nakula. So a bit of a day in the
Nakula household overall for this. You have the you have
the comments about the referees. You have his brother getting
arrested after taking the stuv. Yeah, that's a that's that's
a that's a day, man, that's a full day.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's a Wednesday for you.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, and the the backstory with the you know how
he got to these comments, there's also a potential touchdown
celebration that depending on you know, how you're interpreting or
you know, with Aiden Ross, the guy that he's working
with and his history, uh may take on a whole
other level of significance for Pooka Nakua. So uh yeah,
(02:44):
for for those siblings, a miserable day that might get worse. Yeah,
Now it's it's unclear if it's straight theft, because it's
unclear if the if Pukah's brother and then the other
guy in this took the suv without permission, or if
they he just took it right like they knew the
guy and they said, oh, he's not gonna mind if
we take his car. They took it to a hotel
(03:05):
and they valaid it and they went in the hotel.
So it's one of them. But obviously, you know, you
take somebody's car you don't know, and then you know
that's that's a that's a crime. So I mean the
fact that that valet is I mean there's at least
a paper trail of stuff. Hey hey Garson, Yeah, hey, hey,
I'm valeting this car. Listen, it's hot, okay, because because
no one knows that I have it, So just so
(03:26):
you know, put this in the back somewhere where nobody
can get to it, all right, just say that's going
to be in the records there, right, they have cameras
up front, they have like so that would be very
easily figured out. And now it just becomes the all right,
are you gonna press charges on these guys or was
it just a harmless prank gone berserk? Both men are
still behind bars at this point, So now, yeah, Pooka's
(03:49):
gonna have to answer questions about his brother and his
comments about the officials.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So so that, like I would it be a joke.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You can't just take the car and say just kidding.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, oh no, you you've had.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Friends, it's no longer a joke.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter the reason you give,
you know, I mean, it is a little it is
a little different. I think there's a because of what
I think we're seeing with the story. The way it's
worded is that there's a difference in theft and taking
a car without permission. I don't know what it is,
but leg that legal distinction legal. I don't know what
the legal distinction is, but I assume there's a Jason.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'll take your car without permission tomorrow, then.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Okay, man, I'll call the police.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Other we're following a we're following a green car and
Jets colors that now has Laker flags outside the back
of it. And wow, the person driving is is giving
up a middle finger to everybody. Drive that's justin Frostburg. Everybody,
that's Chargers radio producer, justin Frostburg. Let's hear the cannon
for Fraustbera.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He drives around.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
He's just pinballing it off of little barriers and the
tire is like bobbing up and down as it goes
one more time. Frostburg took it to his shop and
had some hydraulics put in. So now he's bouncing along
the highway and the man of the car is not
being charged with any sort of traffic violations. It doesn't
(05:11):
look like the lights are working. So he's actually signaling
or hand signaling for all. I'm gonna make a left
hand turn here, coming to a stop there, and his
hand is down, hand is straight out for.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
A left up.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's up.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
He's gonna make a right hand turn right.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Now, So following along, he's really signaling. I think he's gesturing,
and he's just a subject to interpretation.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I remember when I took my driver's test when I
went and and they just went over like very briefly
doing hand signals when you drive, like give you a
hand signals.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You have to know these.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, that's great. I had to know it for the
written test. So I got to take my driver's test,
my road test, and I talked to the instructor and
I asked the right questions and every that I said, okay,
hand signals, he goes, oh, absolutely. I wanted to go really, man, really,
my hand signals. I can't stop putting my hand down. Stop,
But you're gonna make me turn the wheel with my
hand out and know when to bring it back. Come on, man, really,
(05:59):
I mean, I know this was the eighties, but I
mean we still we had electronic turn singles. It's not
like you had to beep the horn and yell out
and go I'm gonna turn left, left hand turn coming,
so he maybe so. I was nervous as hell. I'm like,
how am I gonna do this?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Man? But the kid pay.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I just put a speaker system over the top of
the car like I was the Blues Brothers. I'm going
to make a left turn now. I've always loved you brother,
theodora and the car goes so uh. Now, the other
part for Pooka is dealing with his conversation that he
had on a live stream that I'm sure is going
(06:34):
to get him fine. Now he's on at and Ross's
live stream and he's asked about NFL officials and this
is his answer what he thinks about the referees in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
The wor there's something the whos aren't then like, these.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Guys want to be These guys are lawyers and like.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Real that they want to be on TV too, brother,
Like off the game, you don't think he's He's texting
his friends and the group chat like, yo, you guys
just saw me Sunday night football. Like that was a
way that wasn't p I like what I called it
was serious. I mean, these guys are noble human beings too.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Woo.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's such a huge file will fight for you.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yes, Wow, that's gonna Hey if I'm Roger Goodella, I
want to say, hey, I want to thank you, Pookah.
This fine is going to pay for all the holiday
parties for every NFL team across the team, every team
they want to throw a big hot they need fifty
grand apiece. We're gonna be able to do it to
you because we're taking all your money for this. About
the officials, they just want to be on TV. These
(07:31):
guys are lawyers. You don't think they're texting as friends
in the group shot. Like you saw me on SNF.
It wasn't p I, but I called it wow. Like
I mean it when I say live stream is the
new podcast, Like if you really want to get in
an athlete loose lipped and saying stuff that. Upon further review,
he goes, Man, I probably shouldn't have said that doing
(07:53):
the Haggard probably should have told you it up, it's
live stream now instead of he used to be podcasts. Right,
you're sitting down, you know, you taking a coffee and
you're just yapping for twenty minutes telling stories. Yeah, this
is great, This is great. Yeah, there's no no microphone,
no cameras around in it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
No, but now live stream is a new thing. Right,
it's a loose atmosphere. Maybe you're playing video games whatever. Yeah,
we're up, we're live man, we're just talking. We're just
talking that. Everything is good, okay, And this is when
you get athletes saying things they shouldn't it. Live stream
is a new podcast. Have any of these guys gone
in their local markets? This is what we need to
figure out. During Sundays games, you'll find me as the
back judge. But Monday through Friday, I will fight for you.
(08:32):
Call me and my team. We've gotten over. I mean,
how many millions of dollars do you have to have
in settlements to count as a as a leader out
here in Los Angeles? Unless you got like four or
five hundred million butt next to your name, I know
nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I fight for you. I'll fight for you.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Carriage Parker got me, I have Larryage.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I will fight for the football.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I will make sure I come down with it in
traffic for you.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
You watch you.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Fight for that extra yard on Sundays, and we'll measure
it as succinctly and specifically as we can to get
you the damages you are owed. Oh no, no, you
fight for the football on Sunday. I'll fight for you
in court on Monday. We'll work together and get you
that betday. I am throwing a flag on the treatment
you've received from your insert business.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Here.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
There will be no need to replay the verdict here,
you win, you get the money.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But look, the thing is, is he is he right? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Is Pooka right about refs being on TV? And don't
you want to see when now Fox and CBS on
Sunday introduce the officials and what they do in the
off season, Like don't you want to see that? They go,
here's your officiating creutinay with what they do in the
off season. Lawyer, lawyer, partner at you know Smith and Harmon,
you know partner Frostburg and ty shirt partner partner real.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But is he right?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Is he right? They want to get on TV? They're
human people too. You don't think they're texting his friends
in the group chat like you saw me on Sunday
Night Football. Yeah, guys in their sixties are on a
group chat about look at me calling this penalties?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Some of them are in a human he.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Is he is right in that they're human and they
do want attention. Okay, now follow me on this. They
want to be on TV. Okay, dude, the back judge
is not going to try to get on TV all
the time. Again, you have you have one you have
one official that's on that's on TV. That's calling that.
That's calling the penalties the other guys. Right, they appear
(10:33):
a little bit. Sometimes they're on camera. Sometimes you don't
see them. They don't speak, they don't say anything. It's
not about guys being on TV. Right, But why do
you want to be an official in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Right? You want to be a part of the game. Right.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You want to be a part of the jazz. You
want to be a part of what's going on.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And I and I get that this is where he's
right when he says, you know, people are human. And
as someone who has dealt with referees in in in
many different ways, that'll be at U sports. But I
I have a pretty good idea. I talked to a
lot of you know, people who referee in college and
higher levels, and I will tell you this. Everybody who referees, right,
(11:12):
they all love the power, and they all want to
put their own imprint on the game. They all wanted
they all want it to be. Yes, it's the Rams
and the Seahawks and the officials, right. They want to
put their imprint on the game somehow, whether it's Carl
Cheffer's crew, that's no, we're gonna call these penalties in
the final two minutes. I don't care what you say,
because we should call these penalties because yes, because I
(11:34):
like the attention and I like putting my stamp on
the game.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's really what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's officials are human in that they want to put
their stamp on the game.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Why do you see a defensive back like a sauce
Gardener all of a sudden, Hey boy, he's got three
holding penalties in the first ten minutes of this game.
Why would the official is out for that penalty and
he wants it for whatever reason. He has zeroed in
that sauce Gardner likes to use his hands too much,
and I'm throwing the flag on him. Right, That's what
it is. It's not about being on TV because he's
It's like these guys get taken on and say anything
(12:04):
to their to their wives or their kids or anything
else again or their law partners. Hey vern, Hey, I'll
see you Monday. I'll be in that deposition meeting at
ten o'clock. Right, the last game is Sunday. I'll see
you there Monday. No, but they all like the power.
They all want to put their own imprint on the game.
And it's baffling, and it's maddening, and it's not consistent
because it's it's you know, some some officials favor one
(12:26):
thing over the other. But that's where he has a
point in that this is what officials are out. I
want to put my imprint on the game, and if
I'm calling it straight up, if I'm doing things, you know,
strictly by the book. Hey, A lot of referees are
okay with that. Some aren't, right, you see, you see
why there's certain certain crews at call mall penalties. Right.
I think everybody knows Jerome Boger. He's been on TV
more than Tom Brady over the course of his career
(12:48):
when he was officiating. So you know these guys, right,
because Carl Cheffer's crew, we know, we know these names.
So that's really what it is. It's about the It's
about the imprint they want to have on the game
more than just all they want to be on TV. Yeah,
I mean I worked the game. You know. The old
rule of thumb is you didn't want to be talked about,
or at least that was the the rumor conjecture speculator.
I don't want to be part of it. I want
(13:08):
to officiate it. And if I don't hear your name,
that's the best. And then I mean, look at what
we have in baseball. You mentioned a couple of the
principles in football. Right in baseball, Angel Martinez, guys like
that they were names, right, and they add the notoriety.
Say that again, Sean Hockey Lee.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Mean, just go on down the line. Right, You've got
all of those guys that you know have their imprint
either here here's the gun show, or I'm going to
give you a forty five minute answer as to why
this is a penalty. Because now my microphone's open, so hey,
let's go. It's open mic night. You know, the left
tackle lined up a little bit ahead and and like,
(13:52):
I don't know, I just called the penalty and move on.
But I don't need a monologue about the That's why
they hired the guys in in the booth for CBS
and Fox to do that for us, right, the former officials.
But it's it's just that part of the impront of
the game, and you know the points of emphasis. Certainly
the guys that don't have a microphone, they want to
(14:15):
show that their eyes work and that they're part of
the game, and they're gonna have an imprint. I mean,
we've joked about it a lot, right, people go Already
the next three weeks, what Kansas City get any calls
with Gardner Minshew in search?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Ok?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Oh no, hey, there goes Mahomes. And as I watched
him leave the field, they all say, there.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Goes the guy.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We're getting all the call You're not getting those calls anymore. Everybody,
good luck, play it straight up, good luck. I'll see
how it goes. Good luck, see how that works out.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You just wait till they give Gardner Minshew up Mahomes's calls.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
They're gonna just gonna put Minshew in Mahomes this jersey
and they'll forget I forgot it was it was Minshew
not Mahomes. Ah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I shouldn't have thrown that flag. My fault.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
My bet it just shows up.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
He just shows up. Nebraska gear and eyes surgery.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I' exit out, bout of Fresca exit Swallen Dove, Jason Smith,
Mike Harvin Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios coming
up next. A few days ago, one superstar quarterback let
the hint drop that maybe he wants out today. He
sort of doubled down on it. If you want a
superstar QB, he's gonna be yours for the taking in
(15:21):
the offseason. That his name is John c.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It's not John Cena. He is free.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
That's next, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (16:15):
Happy night for.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. So uh, speaking of Adam Sandler, Yeah,
saying about him earlier today when he was at the Oscars,
did his whole shallow may bit. Now I'm gonna be
at Veterans Park playing here at midnight. Uh, big news
(16:41):
in the Oscars is going to YouTube. It's gonna be Yeah,
I'm on YouTube in twenty twenty nine. Nobody under the
age of sixty is gonna be able to find it.
It's never gonna forget the Oscars, which is an older
watch anyway, forbid no one. No one over the age
of sixty gonna find it. Nobody Well, and while you're
on youtub for it, I don't even know. I don't
(17:02):
even know where it is. I can't find it. Wait, oh,
come on, it's not that hard anymore. Hang on, look,
wait a minute, here it is. I'm getting I type
in Oscars. Okay, wait, Oscar Madison, Oscar the Grouch, Oscar Meyer, Oscar, Oscar,
Oscar Oscars, Oscar, Oscar Goldman. That's six million dollar Man's boss.
Oscar Okay, Oscar Okay, Oscars. I mean really, I mean,
(17:23):
here goes the Oscars to YouTube, right, And you know
what the thing is, I get it because the Oscars
has been hemorrhaging viewers for the better part of the
last decade plus. Because look, it's one of those things
where you thought the Oscars was gonna live forever. Is
the number one thing in entertainment every year all you know,
thirty forty million people watching the Oscars. And then people
(17:44):
started going away from the Oscars when people, you know
a lot of movie goers got a little disenfranchised with
how they awarded the Oscars and who they gave Oscars to.
Basically became a lifetime achievement award. Then when the pandemic
came and the broadcast, we're awful, and and now we're
gonna nominate ten films and most of most of them
(18:04):
are films that nobody has seen. Like it's just they're
just leeching viewers year after year after year. They had
to do something bold, They had to do something where
it looks like they're still room for growth. So yeah,
so in a few years, we're gonna go to streaming
and and we're gonna get money for it. Right, I'm
sure you know they're getting money for this. And if
the viewership is down, it's okay, because it's streaming.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We're building.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And what what the Oscars has done is they've bought
themselves a decade more of relevance.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hey, if the if the.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Viewership is down and you know, hey, yes, we know
in a couple of years it's going to YouTube, and
and this is what's gonna happen. And they've bought themselves time.
They've they've had a big problem and they've just kicked
that can down the road. They got some I'm sure
they got more money, and they realize that now in
twenty twenty nine, if less people watch doesn't matter, because
we're gonna measure it all different ways because it's streaming,
it's here, it's here. People are picking this up, and
(18:52):
we can we can obfuscate it and make it seem
like the Oscars is still great. Meanwhile, less and less
people are watching it every year. Yeah, let's see one
hundred fifty million dollars in revenue for the Academy during
the fiscal year that ended June thirtieth, the vast majority
of which came with the rights deal of ABC Disney
sniffing amount of related content because that's part of it, right,
that all the ancillary content that goes through it, with
(19:16):
the red carpet shows and behind the scenes and all
the buy in you get from the nominees and the process.
Because this will then leak back into deals with the
studios and production companies themselves to get exclusive content as
they promote and pimp out their wares for the opportunity
(19:39):
to be in front of you. You know, it just
becomes the different system that needs to get fed to
push forward. So, yeah, it'll be interesting to watch. The
Google Arts and Culture Initiative is what they're calling it,
to help provide digital access to selects, exhibitions, and programs
and digitize more than the fifty two million items that
(20:00):
are currently part of the Academy collection. So there's a
whole other scope to this when you talk about the
history of movies and the art and everything. There's a
museum here that's been opened in Los Angeles, but the
bowels that have so much stuff that you can call
that hasn't seen the light of day in forever that
(20:20):
you know, there's a vast reservoir of interviews and content
to go and build out this whole universe. And while
you're at it, at YouTube Slash at Jason Smith's show,
in case you get bored with the preachiness of the
Oscar speeches.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah we're there now, going, We're there for you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
We're there now We're already ahead of the head of
the game. So yeah, in four years, who is Joe
Burrow playing quarterback for? Because I'll tell you what after today,
doubling down, it ain't gonna be the Bengals. It was
last week Joe Burrow had his very oh what a
human moment press cops from Joe Burrow talking about his
(20:58):
frustrations with the game.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Okay, yeah, I understand that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Joe Burrow is also pretty He's a pretty savvy guy.
He knows what he's saying, he knows how his words
are going to be interpreted. And the fact that he
said a week ago at a press conference he wants
to be happy. He's got to find happiness in the
game and that's what he needs to be able to
go forward. Hey, he's telling you, I'm not happy here
in Cincinnati anymore. I'm not happy getting my ass kicked
(21:22):
and we're not winning, and we didn't build on the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I am not happy. And I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Not the first athlete to be unhappy with the Bengals
and Mike Brown not the last. So I get that
he wants out. We talked about it last week. Yeah,
he is sounding the alarm that he wants out, if
he was talking about retiring, or if he was unhappy
because it was something outside of football. Yeah, guys generally
don't say that they if they're gonna retire, They don't
throw it out there, I might retire. They don't throw
(21:47):
it out there about whatever personal things they might be
going through. This is really yet another another instance of Hmmm,
here's a superstar that knows how to play the media right,
and here's and I don't doubt Burrow about his happiness
or anything else, but you know when you put that
message out there getting close to the end of the year,
you're eliminated from the playoffs. You're frustrated. Yeah, you've tried
(22:09):
to make it work in Cincinnati and you haven't. And
you're at the midway point of your career. You've been
hurt a lot. You want to play in front of
an offensive line that's actually good. You want to be
able to do these things, and you know that the
Bengals don't have a great track record for saying, oh,
we're so sorry you're unhappy. Here, we'll trade you wherever
you want to go. Right now, we're gonna screw you.
We send Carson Palmer to the Raiders and ended his
(22:30):
guy's career, right, so just so you know, so he
knows it's gonna be hard. So that was the take
last week. You would think after the firestorm, if Joe
Burrow really didn't mean it to be about the Bengals,
he would have shut down a lot of things. He
would shut down all the talk about it and say, look, guys,
I don't know what you're saying. This is not what
it's about. I'm here, I'm playing X, Y and Z.
(22:52):
But instead, today he gets asked if he ever envisioned
playing for another franchise, And here was Joe Burrow answer
to that question.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
A lot of crazy things happen every year.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Michael Parsons got traded right before the sea, right before
the season. I think this year is something I hadn't
seen in a long time in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So crazy things gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
You know what that means. That's him saying to thirty
one other teams, come and get me, Come and get me,
come here, Come and get me, save me, save me.
I am here, Come and get me. Because the answer
to that question is no, No, I don't envision play
I'm happy here. I love playing here. I want to
make it work. That's the answer you give. That's the
answer the quarterback skive. That's what you say when you're
the frace of the franchise and you're getting that kind
(23:38):
of money and you know what you say matters, that's
the answer you give. But instead, crazy things happen every year.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I could be on a new team next year. I mean,
is there any way he is on the Bengals next year,
even though he even said, hey, it's hard for me
to believe I'm somewhere else a few days ago because
of the money and his contract wise, but he's putting
that out there, saying, let's make it work. You know
a team's gonna want me. It's easier to trade for
Joe Burrow and pay him a lot of money. That
(24:06):
is a trade for Tua and pay him a lot
of money. So yeah, this is this is Joe Burrow
doubling down and he is saying, come and get me.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I want out. And if I.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Don't know, there's any other way you could think of
this other than he wants phone calls to happen. He
wants to talk to other teams. He wants other teams
to call. He wants to start shaking this tree a
little bit because he's seen how it's worked, right, He's
seen how it works in other sports. When stars want out,
they have.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
To say it.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
They can't say, well, no, no, no, we're kind of
we're kind of, you know, looking at different things we
haven't asked.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
He knows you gotta be public with your request and
that's how you get things done.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You go back to James Harden. You know, I'm just
gonna say bad things about people with the organization till
they tell me I'm out, and then I go wind
up getting traded. That he knows this is how it works.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Again.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Burrow is a smart guy, right, He's a smart dude.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
He gets it.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And if there was any question that last week didn't
go the way he wanted to, he would shut down
every one of these questions.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
But he's not.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
He is still feeding them. He wants out. He is
hoping by next year, maybe he's he thinks, well, even
in a Russell Wilson kind of way, if it's not
next year, it's the year after and I'm thirty and
the back half of my career. I want a Matthew
Stafford like back half of my career where I'm on
a team that wins. I'm sure he sees that with
Stafford going man, the guy toiled in obscurity for years
(25:26):
with the Lions, and look at the last five years
he's at. He's got a super Bowl. He's gonna have
the MVP. That's what I want. This is what I'm
looking at. But I gotta start laying the groundwork now, and.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Maybe I will.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I will throw this out there. Maybe it's not enough
to happen for next year, but for two years from now. Okay,
but he wants it to happen. He wants to happen tomorrow.
But he understands it's not an overnight process and it
needs to be something that takes on its own life.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But you never know.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
You never know what a team is gonna say, Hey,
here's our draft picks, here's our quarterback and more draft picks.
Give us Joe. We love Joe Brow. Joe Burrow is great,
and I love Joe Burrow. So let's go do it.
So you never know, but you got to put it
out there, and he's putting it out there.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
This is his plan.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, the last week has just been odd, right, You
go back to that thing where you might as well
have had the little riverband playing cool Change behind him,
and you know the albatross and the whaler, they are
my brother. As he contemplated the meaning of life, and
people were like, well, you can walk away with the
Andrew Luck. No, no, no, this guy just did a
grueling rehab. He wasn't quitting. And then Sunday he gave
(26:27):
me what can only be described as a poor effort
against the ravens, one that just really which one of
these is not like the other is in terms of
his entire football career, going back to smoking a cigar
at LSU. He's like, all right, after you know that
soulful speech. I really thought in between the white lines
(26:49):
you'd find some happiness and instead, well we got what
we got. Now you have this. And at some point
he's just got to embrace a guy who was active
going back and what was it night ninety six in
the WWF raise a ramone with It's okay to be
the bad guy. At some point you just have to
(27:10):
say this is I can't dance on the fence because
I'm gonna keep getting asked these questions and the reporter
I get I give him credit like he he stumbled
and fumbled through it because he didn't want to ask
it directly, but eventually got there of the well do
you envision and the NFL and then's like no, no, no,
just ask him you want to trade? Are you looking
to get traded? Just you know, let's just throw it
(27:32):
out there instead. You know, you get this medium outh
thing coming back. And there's no question it's on his mind.
It's the instead of saying, hey, a lot needs to
change or I want out, he's trying to be nice
about it and keeps up. But no, eventually, as you
say with James Harden, remember when he was overseas doing
his shoe deals, yelling, hey, let me do that again
(27:52):
for the guy in the back. Yeah, that's what Joe
Burrow needs to do at some point. And again, like
he's basically when he says, oh, Michael Parsons got trader,
like he's saying, whoa, the team might decide to trade me.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like whoa, whoa, whoa? What? Wait?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Why are you saying we're trying to trade? He wants out?
And for the first time, I'll tell you this, I'm
getting a little excited because the Bengals don't really want
to trade him to where he wants to go. They'll
trade him, but they'll want to screw him. Where else
can you screw him worse? Where the Bengals can say, hey,
we're gonna send you someplace worse than us because we
can get a lot of draft picks. Because oh, by
(28:25):
the way, they just got a lot of draft picks
at the trade deadline. Hey, here's the first we got
from from the Cowboys for Quentin Williams, and what we
got from the culture sauce gardener and Joe Burrow's quarterback
of the Jets next year. Look at you, buddy, let's
go at Yoe. You just went straight over the board.
You leapt from just past your first roll of the
(28:47):
dice all the way back home with the Jets, and
you stomped on it like a little kid with both feet.
Oh noll of suddenly thinking, Joe Burrow at met life man,
So if thin could have we have picks, And the
Bengalis say, yeah, as bad as we are, it's worse
with them. So we're we'll trade you there. That's fine.
We're not gonna trade you to a team that we
think could be good you think, just wait, but this one,
(29:12):
I don't think he has any kind of no trade things,
so I.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Think he's kind of screwed.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It just would become a will not report. Yeah, well
be in Gotham City. Yeah, yees see, that's why it's happening. Man,
that rights itself. Remember those old posters and all those
guys back in the day. There's your commercial right there.
That is your commercial right there, undred percent. Didn't you
have a Dark Knight with the Mets at one point? Yeah,
(29:39):
but okay, well need a new Dark Knight. He'll be
the new Dove. And he had just recast just a
guy like.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Ndk new Dark Knight.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He's new dark ndyk Uh time how to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports. And someone
who's been called the Batman of Fox Sports Radio because.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
It's I would love to be a billionaire superhero that
doesn't really have a superpower.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well, you're incredibly rich, that's your's that would.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Be the superpower.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
That would be the super I would love that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I would love that what Robert wool said in the
nineteen eighty nine classic.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
But then you think of other superheroes and I'm like, damn.
I would like to have some sort of, you know,
ability above the normal if I was a superhero, not
just a billion Yeah, no, that's not good enough.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I want to I want to be able to read
people's brains.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I want to be able to read people's brains.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
That's what that's that's creepy.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
That is creepy. If it limits then.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Oh I'm just saying I would like to read people's minds. Whatever,
bar whatever bar All right, well start here with NFL news.
Why not Thursday night football Rams and Seahawks still not update,
but it seems like the Rams I'm not flown to Seattle.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They were supposed to fly.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Out around four pm Low Gold time, which is seven
pm Eastern, but they had some sort of mechanical issue,
something with the flight equipment issue on the plane. Significant delay,
so less than twenty four hours later they still had
an off flown out to Seattle. Rams are also listing
wide receiver DeVante Adams's doubtful for tomorrow's game because of
(31:19):
his hamstring injury. Other NFL news, the Associated Press has
a story that Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes has begun rehab
following the surgery he had to repair his two torn ligaments,
and the team is optimistic that he could be back
early next season, perhaps even by the time Kansas City
plays Week one. Associated Press has the story the Jets
(31:41):
are once again gonna start undrafted Ricky Brady Cook for
Sunday's game at New Orleans. Falcons are gonna have Drake London.
At least he was at practice today. He's missed the
last four games with a knee injury. Buffalo Bills have
designated wide receiver Micole Hardman to return from injured reserve.
In the NBA, the league has fined Rockets said coach
imu Udoka twenty five thousand dollars for publicly criticizing the
(32:03):
officials after Monday's overtime loss to Denver.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Even though they came out and said he was right.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Indeed, you're right. Three times.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
It's like, you're right, but you can't talk to us
like that.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
So we're gonna find you.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Josh Giddy with a six triple double of the season,
and the Bulls defeated the Cavaliers one twenty seven to
one eleven, while the Grizzlies pulled away in the fourth
quarter to defeat the Timberwolves on the road one sixteen
to one ten. In men's college hoops, the last game
has wrapped up Number seven Gonzaga Cruz pass Campbell ninety
to seventy, but number thirteen Vanderbilt stays undefeated. They survived
(32:42):
seventy seven to seventy against Memphis in overtime. In the
NHL one game going on, it's the Devils in the
Golden Knights, and the Devils are up right now. One
is zero late in the second period while the Hurricanes
outscored the Predators four to one.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch much, yess. The
Jason Smith Show with a best friend Mike Carmon, Joe
Burrow quarterback New York Jets, Oh, broad Jets, Broadway Joe,
we'd have another Broadway.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Joe rights itself.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, don't start trying to speak to in New existence.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Put that evil on me justin.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Come on, man, a couple more hits to the head.
You're getting to it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Didn't I pay for a sticks cover band and a
nacho fountain at your wedding? Come on, man to me,
you can't do that to me. Coming up next, are
we about to see one superstar quarterback a lot sooner
back from injury than we thought. That's next Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
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Speaker 1 (34:00):
Radio Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
This might be my new favorite tight shirt.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
It really might be my new favorite wizardry right there, so.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Divriend so.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
In the pantheon of boy This seems a little too
early for this headline. Well, this is kind of where
we're at. Not only has Patrick Mahomes already undergone surgery
for his torn ACL and LCL that he suffered on Sunday,
reports today he has already begun his rehab and the
aim is for him to come back for week one
(34:49):
of next season, and that is what is expected right now,
that he'll return for Week one next year. Now, ACLS
a serious injury, but with the advancements of medicine, it
all depends on the injury. So the fact that it's
a CL l CL, you know it's a serious deal obviously,
But her reports that the greater part of the structure
(35:11):
of the knee, which is really what you're worried about
that was fine. So now this is gonna be rest
and rehab and coming back.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
He's hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Now this is the middle of December, and I get
that he is. It's great that he's attacking it because
he's still in season mode, right, He's still he's playing,
and he's pissed. The Chiefs are pissed they didn't make
the playoffs, as we talked about a few days ago.
Get the Chiefs now, because you know it's gonna be
a completely new team next year. Maybe Andy Reids the coach,
maybe not, but it's gonna be a new star running back.
(35:43):
There's gonna be a new big time wide receiver, either
a wide receiver one or a one A with where
she Wrice's gonna be a new big time tight end.
They know they gotta go after better weapons. Mahomes is
gonna be motivated. I honestly, even though it's an acl
LCL injury, we've seen it, I have there is no
doubt in my mind that Patrick Mahomes is gonna be
ready for Week one. You're talking about coming back now, Yes,
(36:06):
it's a nine month injury. We're at the end of December,
but how much does he really need? How much football
does he need to come back? I know it's gonna
be an everyday storyline for Mahomes once we get into
the summer. Is he ready? Is he going to be back?
And it's Patrick Mahomes after all. I mean, come on,
the guy's been the best quarterback in the NFL for
the better part of the past decade. It's gonna be
an everyday thing. What is Mahomes doing now?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Can he do this?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Can he not? And it's gonna be great to follow it.
But I have no doubt that by the time we
get to opening day next year, which is second week
of September, They're not gonna play Thursday night. I have
no doubt that Mahomes is under center for the Chiefs
in Week one. My favorite is the vice president of
Sports Medicine and Performance, Rick Bergholder, gave this comment. Everything
that he had in this neither wait the guy the
(36:49):
coach team USA that they got rid of. He's now
given statements Wow, okay, yeah, he's now the director of
performance Performance. Everything he had in his injury was fixable, correctable,
and it was fixed on Monday night by doctor Cooper.
He had no artery damage, no nerve damage, no joint
surface damage, no meniscal damage. He's already started rehab down
in Dallas and he'll do that through tomorrow and be
(37:10):
back here on Friday. As you know in the past
with Patrick and his injuries, he attacks them and does
very well. And he's in that mode right now. That
is more than you ever get. The surgery was successful.
All right, leave me alone here. We're doing a full presser.
Doctor Cooper spoke like you had this whole thing. We're
season ticket deposits due. Hey, is Patrick gonna be back
(37:32):
or not? Cause I gotta know because they're chasing me
down for a check. The way that is, it makes
it sound like he could be back for the end
of the season, like, hey, he could be back for
week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Final they're also stealing there, stealing near quotes from Jim Harbaugh.
He attacks it with a ferocity unknown to man. Yeah, man,
one hundred percent, Like I mean, but I'm also gonna
get you that trick. I'm gonna give you this from
a homes too.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I'll give you this mahomes too.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
He's gotten a lot the last couple of years about
his dad bought and still able to play at a
high level. But look, you know, every athlete gets to
a point where they know, okay, really have to start
taking care of my body. And Mahomes, you see him
not the guy you not as sculpted as as some
players generally are. Think about how many rushing yards he
would have had if he was Jason, but you had
(38:21):
had like a thousand yards this year. I mean, and
maybe he's someone that thought, I need a little bit
more weight to take the hits because I'm gonna be
running the football a little bit more often. But I
also have a sneaking suspicion it's going to be a
much more chiseled different body Patrick Mahomes when he comes
back next year. It's the middle of the middle of
his career. Yeah, the middle well, and you'll be able
(38:42):
to see it, right, You'll see it in his body obviously,
you know what kind of shape he's in. But I
have a sneaking suspicion. Okay, now I want to make
sure I'm in the betch. I don't want to have
this injury happen again. I want to be able to
be strong enough to take hits, but I want to
be able to get out from a bad situation. I
want to be able to be light enough to avoid
a big hit, to be able to spin out they hit.
I know now ath to start taking care of my body.
(39:03):
And for every athlete, sometimes it comes to them early
in their career. Sometimes it comes to them late in
their career, or midway in their career. They understand, Okay,
I've been getting by so often because I've been in
my twenties. Now things are slowing down a little bit.
The hits are starting to pile up. I guarantee you
he's a He's a different body next year when he
comes back. And we're looking at like we watched Skinny
Luca over the course of the off season of this
(39:23):
year for the Lakers, It's wow, Look look at Rip Patrick.
You know I'd be coming back to play next year.
That's gonna be the other thing from a homes So
he's already got that photo shoot for Men's Health and
Fitness Schedule. I no like Luke ready to go, man.
I gotta say though, one of my favorite things to
track the last few years you and I've been doing
this show together. The body of James Harden. Was he
or was he not wearing a fat suit? And the
(39:46):
final years of Ben Roethlisberger when he would show up
to training camp and then he would lose twenty pounds
during camp.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, I'm ready for the season.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, the way guys did it in the seventies where
they had like no activity and they show up at
training camp to get in shape for the season. I
haven't done anything for like three months. I've been on
the beach in Cabo, So yeah, I'll get back in
shape now. No, it's not that way anymore. Man, It's
you had a work on or they were working o
their jobs. I man, the guys in Chicago, they were
selling meat and beer and delivering milk in the offseason.
(40:17):
Exit out Voutofrasca, Exit Swollen Down. The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon Coming up next. We
had a big developing story out of the NFL. Could
we be seeing a team in Northwest Indiana? Plus we'll
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