August 30, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith & Steve DeSaegher try to make sense of the Cowboys answers on life with Micah Parsons and the Packers hype with getting Parsons!
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Do you have that?
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Certainly?
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Not?
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No?
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Although he would be some sort of international student visiting
I'm guessing.
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No, I mean not from New York cor Maryland.
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I mean and a Nickelback fan potentially, So there's that.
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Okay, we were going well until.
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We were going well until Nickelback, But that happens right now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Georgia Tech and Colorado tied twenty a piece, was seven
and a half to go in the fourth quarter. Colorado
got out to a seven to nothing lead in this game,
and Georgia Tech took control in the second quarter. But
it has been a back and forth battle. Caden Salter
tonight taking over four Schador Sanders twelve out of nineteen
four hundred and twenty one yards in a touchdown. He's
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also run for thirty four yards in a score. He
is going to be Look, I'll tell you this, He's
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Really good like him.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm not worried about Like we talked about Colorado last hour,
They're gonna be a six to eight win team. I
love the over for them. The schedule is not that
difficult as they get better. The schedule is more difficult
the end of the season, but that's when they're going
to be the better team. There'll be a six to
eight win team. But I'll tell you, Salter, coming out
of the transfer portal one of the most sought after
guys quarterback. I think the number one most sought after
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quarterback in the portal this offseason, and I really thought
Syracuse was going to get him. I'm like, he's scheduled
to go, that's awesome, But I think he was scheduled
visit Syracuse after Colorado and.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Then oh, hey, guess what, I'm going to Colorado? Oh
all right, then he.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Mean something sometimes yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's the old days in the NFL, where hey, my
free agent schedule is the Vikings on Monday, the Jets
on Tuesday, the Browns on Wednesday, and it's like, we
don't want to let you out of the building. Oh yeah, sorry,
I'm signing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That was when Doc Rivers was Clippers coach. Remember they
had a center visiting and they kind of blocked the doors.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Sign him.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's not leaving to go visiting where else? It's done tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's the It's the everyday equivalent of listening through a
timeshare presentation when you go, hey, get a free weekend
in Barbados, everything paid for. You just have to listen
to a time Timeshare pitch for you know, a half
hour and what that's all You gotta do is sit
through a half hour.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
There's no such thing as a time sharre presentation that
lacks half.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But then they have ton then they convince you to
try to buy a time share and spend.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Like we get it's that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You had free fruit loops and you're not gonna sit
here and buy some kind of time share for five
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Come on, man, free fruit loops. You could have had them.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
What is a maintenance fee? Can we go over that again?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But speaking of fruit loops, let's get to the Dallas Cowboys.
Uh so you like that? Huh? You like that?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well the cuckoo part of the TV commercial for the
cereal So yeah, sure you're rolling.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The day after for the Dallas Cowboys and Micah Parsons
after the trade that still has shaken the NFL, and
I think a lot of people like my side, woke
up today going people on the Dallas team. Yeah, oh,
I'd be really And that's be the first place we
go here is that we heard from both Brian Schottenheimer
today head coach of the Cowboys, and Micah Parsons, who
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spoke for the first time since the train. Obviously, yesterday
belonged to Jerry Jones, because you know, if there's oxygen,
he's got to have it first, yes, yes, and then
when he's done and too tired, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
There might be something left over for you a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Let Brian talk today. I'm just I gotten over.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I believe that was the general manager speaking. Whoever is
the Dallas owner, I think is probably going to hold
a separate news conference.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I think you're right. We're waiting for that. We're waiting
to hear from that.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But here's Brian Schottenheimer today talking about how for the
Cowboys after trading the best defensive player in the NFL
and getting back a defensive tackle who, as we said,
is a Pro bowler, but it is twenty nine, coming
off a bad year, and you know his.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Best days are clearly behind him.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This is Brian Schottenheimer telling everybody, Hey, the goals for
the Dallas Cowboys are still the same.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Nothing's changed. My goals haven't changed. Our team goals haven't changed.
I hit the players on that today after I talked about,
you know, just the tough couple of days, you know,
for all the guys, and it doesn't change, you know,
the standard is the standard.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So team goals haven't changed, nine or ten wins, sneak
into the playoffs, maybe on the strength of the offense,
and maybe's really good.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Strength of the defense. No, no, no, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, no, guys, guys, don't look everyone, We're gonna have
to win a shootout every week.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I just came to pause mid sentence and stared directly
into one of the cameras, said, you saw this team
play defense last year, right, nothing's changed.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Nothing's changed for the goal. So that's so that's what
the goal. So we know because that was really the
goal going in and that's the goal.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Now, yeah, the standard is the standard. So apparently the
standard is stann It's let's try not to make the
Super Bowl for say, thirty years. Let's do that. That's
the standard. We're doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And keep that thirty year drought going. Right, Hey, we're
going to keep that going for all we know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
This might con true to that, but.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This is the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He talked today as well about the conversation he had
with the team and like it's it's it's got to
be difficult for for Schottenheimer to sit back and say, Okay,
now I got to talk to the guys about this,
right because you know, it's something we didn't really get
into a lot last night. But but it's more the
day after is how the Cowboys players feel following this,
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because this is basically the Cowboys saying, Okay, we're punting
on this season. You can sit here and say, well,
you know we got two draft picks and we got
a defensive to okay, you got a defenseive we got
to stop the run. Well, you know what it's like,
Jerry Jones has decided to say that because clearly you
knew you have to stop the run for a long
time now.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You could have addressed stopping the run.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
To the general manager, knock on the door.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All the meetings with the owners that you could have.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, you have the owners here once a week,
just knowing that, Okay, well you could have taken care
of that in free agency, in the draft. That's like
they're trying to come up with a reason to justify
this trade. Right, So the team knows you can't. You can't,
you can't feed them aligne. They know how bad it is.
And and Schottenheimer said today, you know, we had an
honest conversation and it got passionate, right, like it got heated,
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but it was good.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It was positive going on.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I don't know, you know, I get you know heat,
you know, it got passionate. I wonder if that's you know,
really the code for passionate is the Cowboys players going, hey.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Coach, what the blank are we doing?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
What the blank?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We just traded the absolute biggest game changer, biggest defensive superstar.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
In the NFL and his sixty sacks or whatever it is.
How the hell are we gonna keep playing? Man? What's
that's what you're sending to us?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That is exactly what passionate means. It means that we're
screaming over the phone for the what did he say,
twelve to fourteen players he managed to hit up on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean so.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And that's the thing is that that's a really hard
message to send because the players are smart, right, they
know to you know, a week before the regular season
that we're kneecapping the team, we're taking away our best
defensive player and getting back.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Send a Dan Campbell resterence. Did that go over everybody's head?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Did you just that would bite?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I didn't say they were biting the knee couch. I
mean they were biting that would literally crushing. That's what
is just this is this is with the baton and
the big stick and like, yeah, just an kneecap you
right there, Like that's really what they're doing. And it's
it's a hard message to send this close to the season.
And it's not like you traded away Micah Parson. Okay,
well now we have money to go get guys. No,
(08:26):
you're you're you're on the hook with Clark now for
twenty million a year the next two years. Right, like,
where in what world does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But this is the Cowboys and there's.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Been a pro bowler. Let's not you know, under sell
what Kenny Clark has been coming out of UCLA, A
very good pro. It's just not the same position. And
you still have a bad defense potentially.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean that's the part of it that really is
going to play out over the course of the next
few months. Right like the shock of the Parsons trade,
I get it, But think about how bad it can
get in Dallas this year, which if you hate the Cowboys,
it's like, think about how good can get Dallas. But
just think about how bad this gets if the Cowboys
start getting boat race and their offense isn't enough to
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keep them in games, and all of a sudden they're
just getting like after the first three weeks, like it
could it could be absolute mutiny on the on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The fans have already revolted.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm sure Micah Parsons is gonna get a standing ovation
when he gets to play back in Dallas this year.
Because everybody hates Jerry Jones. The Cowboys are the one
team where I think the fans hate their.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Own team more than they hate everybody else.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right, Like, as much as mad as I get at
the Jets sometimes I still love the Jets more than you,
But I really think Cowboys fans hate.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Their team more than they hate the Philadelphia Eagles. Right now,
who do you hate most? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Eagles, Okay, Giants, Okay, I hate my team seventy five percent,
Eagles fifteen percent, Giants ten percent, Commanders ten percent.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Like that's how things are, That's how bad things are. Now.
You can imagine what that's gonna mean.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
If the Cowboys start out poorly and look like you
look at their schedule, that's going to happen, and I
can't imagine what life is going to be like for
Jerry Jones every game when knowing that I am punting
on the season and I failed in what I normally succeeded,
and that is the business aspect of signing players that
I want to give a lot of money to.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I failed on this.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That you think this is bad in Dallas, now just wait,
just wait until we get into October.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You reference October. The first game they have in October
is at the Jets. What will the record be after
those four Sundays in September? Because interestingly, and coink at Inkaly,
it's the Green Bay Packers at Dallas on a Sunday
night to end the month of September, if you can
believe that. So nobody's expecting to win at Philadelphia. Correct,
(10:49):
That's the NFL season opener on Thursday night. They've got
the Giants and Bears in between and then hosting Green Bay,
and they're already saying that. Of course, the new guy
on the Dallas side is going to be playing the
very first game, so I assume he'll be playing against
his own team, and we'll see Parsons in Dallas on
a Sunday night. I'm guessing that'll get a rating point
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or two.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, look, Dallas has become even more and this is
the one thing where Jerry Jones can pat himself on
the back and say, we're even more of a must
see now because of this trade. Because of this trade
is now there's so many people who want to see
the Cowboys fail, who want to watch the Cowboy not
really hate watch the Cowboys, but watch them and hope
they lose and root against them because boy, look at
Jerry Jones. I can't stand Jerry Jones. Whether you're a
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Cowboy fan or you're outside of it, you're laughing. But
it's like, oh, the Cowboys they carry themselves like they're
the greatest team in the world, and here they are.
They're gonna be terrible, and interest level in them is
even higher than it was because think about it, if
they didn't make this trade, right, just think about they
don't make the trade.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Dallas Cowboys, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They're normally a really big story, right because they're the Cowboys,
just like the Steelers every year or a story because they're
the Steelers. Then you get the upper echelon of the
NFL from year to year. The last years, the Chiefs
have owned that. Now the Eagles are up on that,
the Niners, but every year it's the Cowboys, but epssell Boys.
It was just kind of a generic interest in the
Cowboys year. Now the Cowboys have become story number one,
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right ahead of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Else in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
The Cowboys and what they're doing following this Micah Parsons
trade has become story number one. It's leapt ahead of
if Shador Sanders winds up starting for the Browns. It's
lept ahead of if Caleb Williams starts out four and
oh for the Bears and he throws twelve touchdowns in
his first three games. And because I have him in Dynastay,
I hope so like it's jumped past that. Like the Cowboys.
Now the interest level has gone from a garden variety
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great level of interest to now their number. They're the
number one story in the NFL. So Jerry Jones, at
least I know, is patting himself on the back for that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And just to you know, you brought up other teams
that certainly have national interest a national fan base, but
the Dallas Cowboys not only have their local Dallas radio
station and all the affiliates in their network around Dallas, Texas, Oklahoma.
They have a separate Compass Media Networks has a separate
Dallas Cowboys radio network with a completely separate boost for
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a national game. So there's another fifty to seventy radio
stations carrying Cowboys there, not with Brad Sham who's done
Cowboys for a year with completely separate crew. You look
at the masthead of the Dallas Cowboys media notes where
they say who's covering this game, and it says what
channel or what network is carrying and the announcers, and
then it says and it's this Compass network, and it's
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this local Dallas network, and it's Telemundo and it's a
secondary and it's preseason, so we got two other TV.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There's not enough space.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
On the page for all the live coverage of TV
and radio that goes on for this team, a team
that has not won the Super Bowl in thirty years.
To say there is still interest in the Cowboys is
an understatement.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now when it comes to Micah Parsons, Okay, this is
his big statement from today talking about the trade and
what he hopes happens with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Here's Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
I looked on that wall and I saw Brett fav
I saw Reggie, I saw all those legends, and I
was like, I gotta be there.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And you know, you go and you.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Go near the draft room and they're all having their
hands up and they having that moment. I'm looking for
that moment, and you know, I'm going to take advantage
of this moment and maximize it to reach that moment.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know, this is the one part of the trade
where because it's the coverage has been widely negative. Cowvin obviously,
so right, I can't make it up how bad the
situation was. But for Micah Parsons, Now take take a
look at it from here. This is the Micah Parsons
question that I have. He's focused on wanting out for
so long, and he said today he didn't have a
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say in the destination. Now, the Packers is a great
landing spot, obviously, and here he is. Obviously he's verse
in the history of the Packers and understands what the
legacy of the Packers is.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And that's great. He's gonna spend the majority.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Of his prime, the rest of his prime until he's
thirty with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So he's only played four years in the league at
this point.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I mean, so he's got You know, usually you'll
get linebackers like him having about a ten year NFL
career right before you start to slow down. Maybe guys,
maybe he's one of those guys like Miles Garrett that
will get into his thirties and still be really good
for the first couple of years. But you want to think, okay,
first half of your prime? Is any getting in the
back of the back half for your prime? All of
a sudden, he gets the trade, he gets what he wants.
(15:32):
But sometimes you get to the point where we have
to go, well, now what, right, Like he didn't have
a say with the Green Bay Packers. He's got to
make it work with the Packers, right, he said, I
did have a say. It did go to his preferred destination.
I want to play in this system because I'm gonna
be great here. Obviously Micah Parsons is good enough and
disruptive enough that he can work in any system. But
still it was basically, you're getting traded here, so you
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have no saying where you're gonna go spend the next
few years. You've already agreed to a big contract extension.
You wanted to get paid.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You got that. Now you have to make it work.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And what if it doesn't work as well as it
did with the Cowboys. I mean, you don't think it
will because obviously he's that kind of a player.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's kind of a plug and play guy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But now you've gone from I want to be a cowboy,
want to be a cowboy, Now I want to get out,
and all of a sudden, here's your next four or
five years, and here's your money and good luck. Now
you have to make the best of it and really
enjoy it. And sometimes that goes great and sometimes it doesn't.
So there is a bit of a dark side from
Michaeh Parsons where suddenly you get thrown to a destination
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that you didn't choose, that you're locked in there for
the next few years.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You didn't have a free agency.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Tour, you didn't make your time, you didn't go and
get to go talk to teams and talk to coaches
and everything else. Now here you are now in Green Bay.
So now it better work for both sides. So there
is a bit of a dark side for it to
Micah Parsons, when you get thrown into a situation that
is just not of your making it all.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Sorry, Mike, you did get what he wanted, the trade
be the contract, So two out of three ain't bad.
And also, as we okay find he's going to green
Bay could be a playoff team. As you can recall,
green Bay was a playoff team at Dallas a couple
of years ago, back when Dallas had a great home wrecker,
back when Dallas had a better defense than the Packers
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won that and ran up and down against the Cowboys
defense as I recall that day. But the calling card
has been the sacks and all that comes with that.
In his four year career in the league, Parsons can
not only pile up the sacks, he can tip the passes,
he can force the fumbles. He's not going to be
piling up tackles total. This is an edge rusher, not
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a middle linebacker, so he doesn't do everything out there,
but he does so much. He excels so much just
in the sack department you mentioned it. It's in the
four years, it's over fifty sacks. His lowest year for
a sack total was last year and he still had
twelve in only thirteen games played. It's quite Yeah, it's
quite a contract, but it's quite a player acquired by
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Green Bay as well.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Exit how about a fresco Jason Smith Steve de seger
in for Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It's okay, some bit of a dark side for the Green.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Bay Packers and a bit of a twisty good news
for the Cowboys because more people need way more people
will really care about them passionately this year, even you know,
just because they screwed up so badly. All right, hey,
you gotta hey, attention is great, right uh? Coming up next,
we will ask the scariest question about the college football season,
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and it should scare everybody.
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Happy Friday, Happy college football Friday. Maybe you're happy because
you had the over between Auburn and Baylor. Maybe you're
(20:09):
happy because Colorado went down to defeat. Looked like Cayden
Salter had a receiver open at the end, could have
completed a Hail Mary, but led him a little bit
too far. Georgia Tech walks away with a twenty seven
to twenty victory.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We'll have more on this game.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Coming up in about fifteen minutes, and again next hour
Pete Feu Tech stops by to talk this and the
Big day headed tomorrow will preview Ohio State Texas. We
have Alabama, a big game Florida State. I'm so nervous
if Florida State's gonna suck, Steve, like, I don't know,
I don't know if the college football peers and we
can take another really bad year out of Florida State,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Man, that'd be tough.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
That would be unusual for all of us as fans.
Let's just put it that Way'd be.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Very difficult with me, Like, Wow, Florida State. Wow, They're just.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I gotta get used to this.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Okay, anymore we have any more yours, dellancibility that charge
of practice squad.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Can we get Charlie wardback Heisman Trophy winner? Can we
get can he come back and play?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
He was a good athlete. He probably could, you know,
swinging around the yard.
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I'll tell you a little a little overrated as a
next point guard.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But still he was, you know, not bad, not bad
Charlie Wood.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But speaking of stars, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Ask a question that's gonna scare a lot of people,
just should scare every college football fan. Tomorrow, obviously we're
gonna get our first glimpse at what Look, this is
one of the biggest absolutely opening day games we have
seen in our lifetimes. Texas and Ohio State, two teams
with national championship aspirations, two teams that have question marks
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but tons of talent.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
And there is.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
No pressure on and we'll get to the other quarterback
with more pressure on Himan anybody else in a little bit.
But there is the spotlight extraordinary on our Manning.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Right. It's all we've talked about.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
College football needs a big star like Arch Manning to
cut through. It's it's how college football becomes bigger, Nashally
when you have that great.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Player Tim Tebow type.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, you have that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Kind of guy that transcends the regionality of college football.
It's a big deal, right and arch Manning is We've
heard about him three years. For arch Manning now it's like, dude, really,
you had to go to Texas where Quinn? Come on, man,
you couldn't go. You can go any place else and
play right away.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What are you doing? Why are you doing a whole
major Apple white thing? Again? I don't understand. Why are
you doing this?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
An assistant coach shortly, Yeah, he's going to Major Apple right. Rap?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
No, I mean think about how history repeat. Twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It was Chris Simms, relative of a great quarterback in
the NFL, deciding I want to go to Texas that
already had an established starter, and it took him forever
to win the starting job. Here you are, twenty years later,
arch Manning, relative of a couple of great quarterbacks with
established quarterback, they're already in Texas.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Took him a couple of years win the job. Like,
come on, man, but I gotta ask you.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
A question, Steve, because this is what you're scared everybody
in college football. What if arch Manning sucks? What if
he is not the guy that has been hyped.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Up to be.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I mean, not just a bad game tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
What if he is not a good quarterback? What if
he sucks?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
If you forget, I mean, we're gonna get our first
glimpse of him as a big time starter tomorrow. Right.
He hasn't had a lot of reps. He's played in
a lot of games. Right, So that's why we're gonna
get a pretty good display of his talent because he's
played in nine games. He's played a decent amount of football.
It's not suddenly, here's your offense after learning for a
couple of years. Right, we saw him playing big games
last year. But what if arch Manning sucks? What if
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he gets worked by Ohio State? What if he's just
not the big time superstar? How scary is that for
college football? Because he's not just a guy that we
move on from and say, okay, well he's not gonna
go to our next start. No, arch Manning is a legacy.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He is. He is the show.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You can't pump up a whole season around one guy
and then if he stinks, say okay, we're pivoting, like
you can't pivot away.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He has built up that there's.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Only one option for him, and that is greatness, like
there is the like the eminem song, success is my
only blank and blanking option failures, not like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's only success for arch Manning.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
If he sucks, college football is gonna take a huge
hit because where's your next cut through?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Cut through? Guy?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Arch Manning is the biggest superstar to come into this
game in quite some time now. Granted, yes, football you
get organic superstars from year to year and it happens,
but arch Manning is He's just extra special because of
his lineage and his legacy and the attention. Like, if
he sucks man college football, that's a huge blow. That's
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a huge blow to the coast to coast popularity, coast
to coast popularity in their games because boy arch Manning
isn't what we.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Thought he was.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Like, that's the scariest I think that's the scariest outcome
for college football this year?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Is it? What if arch Manning sucks?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
A It's a question I hadn't thought of. B It's
a question that will not be answered tomorrow because once again,
you're not talking about if he's bad on the road
against the defending national champs. That would be for anyone
just a little bit early to be making conclusions about
what this guy's season and or career is going to be.
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At this level he has already had and I think
this was a good point that needs to be brought
out more. As you referenced, he already has plenty of
time in a Texas uniform, not just last year. He
made brief appearance the year before that. I'm not saying
you can't, you know, have nerves going into a big
opener like this. It would be very normal too. But I,
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like you, I'm not thinking he's going to be overwhelmed
by the moment for four quarters tomorrow. He's had serious
time from last year and a very good Texas team
last year obviously.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I mean, look, no, I think he's going to
be fine, right, obviously being the more of a dual
red quarterback than you expect, because like, look, people are
gonna get their first real glimpse of Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
They're really trying to wish him into the dual threat existence. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, I mean, well, you know he's fast, right, you know,
he's as fast as Tyreek Hill, right, Look how fast
he was on the scramble. But Obviously, he's much more
mobile than Peyton. Manning is much more mobile than Eli Manning.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Look, I told you, I made Simms. I told or
Phil Simms.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Uh so he as I said, tomorrow, I'm taking Texas big.
I think arch Manning is gonna play big and he's
gonna make a lot of plays with his legs because
that's gonna happen while as he settles in. But he
can do that, and everybody's gonna kind of get their
first real glimpse of him tomorrow because we've only seen
him in bits and spurts, and he's not getting reps
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with the ones because quinn Ewers got all.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Reps last year.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But you know, listen, if he's not good man that,
I don't know where college football goes to say, Okay,
here's our big storyline and now, oh instead focus on this.
Now that's a that's a big blow, you know, nationally,
to to a sport that's hoping to gather all those
headlines and really push arch Manning ahead of college football
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for the next three months.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It would be a surprise in general, But again, it
has nothing to do with him having one bad game
against the defending national champs, who did they not have
the best defense in the whole country last year? This
is what he's walking into at Columbus. It is I mean,
when it's the next time he's going to get the
dista a test, honestly, in his career, it could be
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a while, So let's not overreact to tomorrow. It is
an interesting question because, believe me, I had not even
thought of that as a possibility. Their next few games
after playing at Ohio State, San Jose State, UTEP, Sam Houston. Okay,
so he might have some time to recover, even if
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he has to, say a game tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
So I'm looking at the schedule and I say, okay,
stat game, stat game, stat game. Yeah, he'll be fine.
Now he could put it to bed tomorrow. He has
a big day against Ohio States with three touchdowns and
you know, maybe two hundred and fifty yards passing one
hundred yards, but whatever, it was all of a sudden,
it's wow. Look at I mean, this is we'll remember
the first snap the first day Arch Manning really you know,
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it was became the big superstar of college football. He
can put that to he can put that to bed
tomorrow with a big day and I hear you in
the fact that, Okay, you can't really get on a
guy for losing his first game against the defending national champions.
But Texas is pretty good. He's got he's got, he's
got a pretty good team around him. He's had two
years to learn the offense and get comfortable, and if
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he lays an egg tomorrow, it's you know, I get it.
I hear what you're saying. But at the same time,
it's like, uh, well, you expect great players to play
great against really good teams them, you know, that's why
you got like that the whole Great players play great
against great teams, right the you know, big players play big,
big games.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Like Sam Darnold in the NFL last year, right, maybe
not a good example.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well that was all the way up into they had
big games like that would be the phrase for Darnold.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, you know, the two games at the end of
the year, and then nobody talks about how great the
season was before that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
He was so great right up until the time they
needed him the most. It was so great.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
That's actually exactly how to put it.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But that's but that's the thing, like, no matter what
you can, you know there's going to be the part
of you that can write off a bad game, but
the general narrative is going to be, boy, he was
really that bad.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I mean, this is and this is both teams starting off.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
This is not a veteran Ohio State team that's bringing
back ten guy. Look you they're bringing back the two
best players in the country, you know, at at at
safety and at wide receiver. Right, so I mean that
you have those.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Season All American wide receiver Jeremiah Smith Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I mean, look, kirsch Towns, if quarterbacks weren't the most
important position, cable Down is probably going number one in
the draft. Like, he's probably the best safety prospects since
Rod Woodson. Right, but still, you know it's eleven on
eleven game and Texas is still really good, and you
would expect there, Hey, on a great team, I'm gonna
be able to do some things in this game.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And if he's not.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That that's that's gonna that's gonna more than just poke
its head out. It's gonna be a it's gonna be
a big storyline where all of a sudden it's gonna
be Okay, maybe now he's really not that good, and
then you're gonna get the games going on. But after
he's beating teams like sam Houston State or Texas State,
it's gonna be okay. But what about the next good
team he plays like, Okay, that's great that he's doing
this is great. That he threw five touchdowns and came
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out of the game middle of third quarter. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Well, you got Georgia, show me the next game.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Sure, show me the next game.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
He did play a lot in September of last year,
wound up with nine touchdowns to interceptions, so he got
a lot of time in against the easier competition. It
really if I were a coach, it really would be
nice if college football had a preseason. You could play
somebody else, or do one of those NFL things where
they actually before the preseason games, they actually scrimmage, which
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is more tense really for the starters than the actual
weekend you know thing that on the schedule that they
sell tickets to, which is biggest scam in NFL history.
That's a separate subject. He's been on the field. I
don't think he's gonna lay an egg. Like, man, I
don't think this guy can play the sport or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Exit how about a Fresco Jason Smith, Steve Desager in
for my Car. But again, just something to think of. Look,
I think he's gonna be really good, right, I've seen
enough of him clearly. Look, there's a reason he's the
number one recruit and he's been really good in limited play.
But you never know until you really see the guy
and if he's not. But that's a huge blow for
college football. Man Tong gotta find out what's trending in
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the wide world of sports from special delivery Steve to Sager,
who has been called the Jonah Tongue of Fox Sports
Radio No because they call him the King.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
What's trending?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Buddy, I'm gonna have to explain the reference because there's
this isn't a you know, we don't have video, we
can't put notes for like at the end of your
college paper. It's if you look at the back page
you can understand or at the bottom you know. Jonah
Tongue man is Major League in New York and the
Mets beat Miami nineteen to nine. Jonah Toong had an
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eer and the miners of one point four to three
and was quite good tonight five innings, one earned run, allowed,
six strikeouts, a win for the Mets, six homers for
New York. Philadelphia did win two to one over Atlanta
with a run in the bottom of the eighth.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The starter, now, we'll tell you, We'll tell you this,
Steve New York nineteen Miami nine. I'll take that in
the football season two and I think that could actually
be a finals.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Could absolutely it could happen in that division. Philadelphia's starter
Tonight Rager Suarez, who's ten and six this year, had
no decision. He went five innings, one run end, ten
hits allowed against the Braves. Speaking of Atlanta, left handed
pitcher Chris Sale could return Saturday. He's been out since
June with a ribcage injury. The Phillies are still the
first place team in the NL East, five games over
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the Mets. Saint Louis won at Cincinnati and ten innings,
seven to five, which is great news for the Mets
because the Reds were they had sunk down to four
games out of the last NL wildcard behind New York.
You can make it five now. The Dodgers are in
action right now and getting shut out at home by
the Arizona Diamondbacks. Three nothing. D Backs in the top
of the six. Blake Snell is out of there, allowing
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the three runs in five and a third. He did
strike out eight. The Padres have already lost seven to
four Minnesota over San Diego. Nester Cortes took the l
and Padres shortstop Xander Bogarts went on the injured list
with a broken foot. The Dodger lead in the NL
West was two games over the Pods. To start the day,
Detroit and Houston with wins. Yankees won their six in
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a row Pittsburgh a four to two winner at Boston
Paul skeins. The victory. Boston ends a four game win streak.
Milwaukee won at Toronto seven to two, and Cleveland with
two runs in the bottom of the ninth, beat Seattle
and closer Andres Munoz five to four. And opening loss
in college football at Colorado for the Buffaloes giving up
a late touchdown twenty seven to twenty. Was the final
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for Georgia Tech, and the game winner was scored on
a forty five yard TV run with about a minute
left by quarterback Haines King, who had nineteen carries one
hundred and fifty six yards and three scores two turnovers
as well Michigan State and Appalachian State with wins. Twelfth
ranked Illinois fifty two to three over Western Illinois. Auburn
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won the game on Fox TV tonight at Baylor thirty
eight to twenty four. Army was beaten at home in
double overtime by Tarleton State. Wins for Kansas and for
wake Forest, which wanted home ten to nine against Kennesaw State.
Currently in progress early third UNLV up thirty one seven
at Sam Houston and on FS one second quarter Central
(34:37):
Michigan leads thirteen to seven at San Jose State. That
Texas at Ohio State game is on Fox TV Saturday
noon Eastern Time, and the New England Patriots release safety
Jabriel Peppers back to you.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Thank you, Steve oh Jasus Smith, Steve de Sager in
from Mike Harmon tonight. Coming up next, two big debuts
this weekend in college football. We break them down straight ahead,
including one debut that really might surprise you. That's next
right here, Jason Smith, Steve Sager, This is Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (35:19):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with special delivery Steve
de Sager in from Mike Harmon Big night in college football.
We got Pete fu Tech coming up next hour. We
had the big debut tonight of Caden Salter as Colorado quarterback.
Not exactly what Dion Sanders had in mind.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
That's a waking close Marv Albert reference there.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
For that, exactly what Deon Sanders had in mind.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Much better.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That was always great because there's always where like here
would be like a like a fast break and the
ball would get passed with three on one of the
ball would go out of bounds, and Marv Albert say,
not exactly what Mike Frotillo had in mind.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What I remember most is he used to narrate the
sports funnies highlights coming on David Letterman Show all the
time in New York, and inevitably, I mean he was
there monthly. Inevitably one of the highlights did have him
saying exactly that when likely somebody did exactly that, not
what he had in mind.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Not exactly time out, they want to talk it over.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So the debut of Caden Salter quarterback tonight for Colorado.
Kind of a mixed bag. I mean, obviously not the
result Colorado wanted. They fall to Georgia Tech twenty seven
to twenty. Haines King not a great night, but throwing
the football, but running the football boy one hundred and
fifty six yards and three touchdowns for Georgia Tech. Colorado
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could not stop Georgia Tech on the ground. They ran
for three hundred and twenty yards. Caden Salter touchdown, running, touchdown, throwing,
but Colorado loses twenty seven to twenty. This is one
of those free games for Georgia Tech, right, Like you
look at Colorado coming into this year and so much
attention obviously on Dion Sanders on the Colorado Buffalos, you know,
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replacing Travis Hunter, replacing Shador Sanders, replacing Shiloh Sanders, replacing
Frank Sanders, replacing Colonel Sanders.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
A free game for them visiting Colorado.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, free game because Okay, you're not opening up
against an FCS, you're opening up against someone. But look,
you're opening up against the decent, middle of the pack
Georgia Tech team and Colorado. I'm not discouraged by them
losing at home tonight This is a six to eight
win Colorado team. Cadence Salter is a good quarterback and
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you saw him play better and better as the game
went on.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Uh, he's gonna be fine. Right.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We talked about him being the big sought after transfer
out of Liberty last year. Again, I really wanted Syracuse
to get him, but he see he didn't leave Colorado
without signing with with Dion. Uh, Colorado will be okay.
This is this is a year where it's not like
sudden Deon's built up all these great recruits and we're
just gonna roll over from one great quarterback to the next. Right,
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that's not Alabama, It's not way it is. But the
Big twelve is not great. The schedule gets tougher at
the end of the year, in which by that point
Colorado will be playing better football. This is absolutely fine.
If you're talking about a six to eight win season
for Colorado, that's a success coming off of what you
had last year. Right, you're sending guys to the NFL,
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big high profile, You're still building things in Colorado. There's
still a good faction of the population going, Ah, is
Dion really a great coach?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Can he really continue to build can.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
He win without his kids, Like even after a couple
of years, there's still those question marks.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Colorado's fine.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
They have a lot of talent, they have good coaching staff,
they have the athletes in there.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
They will be just fine.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
You look at their schedule again, it's not a bunch
of world beaters throughout the rest. They have Delaware, then
it's Houston Wyoming BYU Again, congratulations, because the Big Twelve
is terrible. You get those tougher teams towards the end,
but that's when you'll be playing better football. And Dianna's
show that, Hey, we'll put points on the board. We're
going to fill our holes. This is still a six
to eight win team, and that's a victory for Colorado
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Bowl eligible going to a bowl the year after to
show that you're still playing well, you're still building in
Colorado that successful season. Even though they lost to Night,
I'm still arrow up on them for a six to
eight win season.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
And the Big Twelve was last year certainly not terrible,
and it was competitive and Colorado was one of those
teams competing. There was a four way tie for first
by the end of the season last year and it
included Colorado and there were three other teams that finished
only a game back in the standings. And you might say, man,
that's over half the teams in the Big twelve. Actually
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it's just called Big twelve. They're like most confidences, there's
actually more than twelve. It's a long list of they're
in that conference. Oh they're in the yeah, yeah, you
know Utah, it's going to be the late game on
Fox tomorrow night at UCLA. That's not a Pac twelve matchup.
Just for the record, Utahs in the Big twelve. They
have a lot of schools in the league, Gon like
the Big Ten and you know everybody else. But I
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think they'll be just fine. I think Colorado will be
competitive as they were last year.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's one of those cases where all right, if they
don't win big, you think it's a failure.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
No, it's this again.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Colorado's not altabeit. I haven't won big yet, right, They've turned.
They've turned a team that was a one win team
and that boy, they were absolute the dregs of the
Big twelve, or they were twelve now the Big twelve.
Now now they're at destination Diana shot. I'm staying, at
least for now, I'm gonna turn this around. We're gonna go.
He stayed longer than we thought he was gonna stay
in the beginning, his kids are gone. He thought he
was gonna go. No, he's still there. It's arrow up
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and six to eight wins sometimes that's successful season.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And I still feel that's what's gonna be Colorado year
this year.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
And we can't forget what the program was that you reference.
They were literally not just bad, I mean like averaging
giving up forty and only scoring about ten to fourteen
themselves game after.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
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Speaker 3 (41:07):
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Speaker 1 (41:08):
Big games tomorrow Texas, Ohio State, What about LSU Cleansing
and the rest.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
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Do you have that?
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Certainly?
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Not?
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No?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, okay, all right, very good.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Although he would be some sort of international student visiting
I'm guessing.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, well he's Canadian.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
No, I mean not from New York cor Maryland.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No, no, no, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
I mean and a Nickelback fan potentially, So there's that.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Okay, we were going well until.
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We were going well until Nickelback, But that happens right now.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Georgia Tech and Colorado tied twenty a piece, was seven
and a half to go in the fourth quarter. Colorado
got out to a seven to nothing lead in this game,
and Georgia Tech took control in the second quarter. But
it has been a back and forth battle. Caden Salter
tonight taking over four Schador Sanders twelve out of nineteen
four hundred and twenty one yards in a touchdown. He's
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also run for thirty four yards in a score. He
is going to be Look, I'll tell you this, He's
gonna be.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Really good like him.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I'm not worried about Like we talked about Colorado last hour,
They're gonna be a six to eight win team. I
love the over for them. The schedule is not that
difficult as they get better. The schedule is more difficult
the end of the season, but that's when they're going
to be the better team. There'll be a six to
eight win team. But I'll tell you, Salter, coming out
of the transfer portal one of the most sought after
guys quarterback. I think the number one most sought after
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quarterback in the portal this offseason, and I really thought
Syracuse was going to get him. I'm like, he's scheduled
to go, that's awesome, But I think he was scheduled
visit Syracuse after Colorado and.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Then oh, hey, guess what, I'm going to Colorado? Oh
all right, then he.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Mean something sometimes yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's the old days in the NFL, where hey, my
free agent schedule is the Vikings on Monday, the Jets
on Tuesday, the Browns on Wednesday, and it's like, we
don't want to let you out of the building. Oh yeah, sorry,
I'm signing.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
That was when Doc Rivers was Clippers coach. Remember they
had a center visiting and they kind of blocked the doors.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Sign him.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's not leaving to go visiting where else? It's done tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's the It's the everyday equivalent of listening through a
timeshare presentation when you go, hey, get a free weekend
in Barbados, everything paid for. You just have to listen
to a time Timeshare pitch for you know, a half
hour and what that's all You gotta do is sit
through a half hour.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
There's no such thing as a time sharre presentation that
lacks half.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But then they have ton then they convince you to
try to buy a time share and spend.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Like we get it's that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You had free fruit loops and you're not gonna sit
here and buy some kind of time share for five
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Come on, man, free fruit loops. You could have had them.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
What is a maintenance fee? Can we go over that again?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But speaking of fruit loops, let's get to the Dallas Cowboys.
Uh so you like that? Huh? You like that?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well the cuckoo part of the TV commercial for the
cereal So yeah, sure you're rolling.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The day after for the Dallas Cowboys and Micah Parsons
after the trade that still has shaken the NFL, and
I think a lot of people like my side, woke
up today going people on the Dallas team. Yeah, oh,
I'd be really And that's be the first place we
go here is that we heard from both Brian Schottenheimer
today head coach of the Cowboys, and Micah Parsons, who
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spoke for the first time since the train. Obviously, yesterday
belonged to Jerry Jones, because you know, if there's oxygen,
he's got to have it first, yes, yes, and then
when he's done and too tired, okay.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
There might be something left over for you a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Let Brian talk today. I'm just I gotten over.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I believe that was the general manager speaking. Whoever is
the Dallas owner, I think is probably going to hold
a separate news conference.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I think you're right. We're waiting for that. We're waiting
to hear from that.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But here's Brian Schottenheimer today talking about how for the
Cowboys after trading the best defensive player in the NFL
and getting back a defensive tackle who, as we said,
is a Pro bowler, but it is twenty nine, coming
off a bad year, and you know his.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Best days are clearly behind him.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This is Brian Schottenheimer telling everybody, Hey, the goals for
the Dallas Cowboys are still the same.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Nothing's changed. My goals haven't changed. Our team goals haven't changed.
I hit the players on that today after I talked about,
you know, just the tough couple of days, you know,
for all the guys, and it doesn't change, you know,
the standard is the standard.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So team goals haven't changed, nine or ten wins, sneak
into the playoffs, maybe on the strength of the offense,
and maybe's really good.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Strength of the defense. No, no, no, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
No, no, guys, guys, don't look everyone, We're gonna have
to win a shootout every week.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I just came to pause mid sentence and stared directly
into one of the cameras, said, you saw this team
play defense last year, right, nothing's changed.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Nothing's changed for the goal. So that's so that's what
the goal. So we know because that was really the
goal going in and that's the goal.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Now, yeah, the standard is the standard. So apparently the
standard is stann It's let's try not to make the
Super Bowl for say, thirty years. Let's do that. That's
the standard. We're doing well.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
And keep that thirty year drought going. Right, Hey, we're
going to keep that going for all we know.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
This might con true to that, but.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
This is the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
He talked today as well about the conversation he had
with the team and like it's it's it's got to
be difficult for for Schottenheimer to sit back and say, Okay,
now I got to talk to the guys about this,
right because you know, it's something we didn't really get
into a lot last night. But but it's more the
day after is how the Cowboys players feel following this,
(06:24):
because this is basically the Cowboys saying, Okay, we're punting
on this season. You can sit here and say, well,
you know we got two draft picks and we got
a defensive to okay, you got a defenseive we got
to stop the run. Well, you know what it's like,
Jerry Jones has decided to say that because clearly you
knew you have to stop the run for a long
time now.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You could have addressed stopping the run.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
To the general manager, knock on the door.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All the meetings with the owners that you could have.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, you have the owners here once a week,
just knowing that, Okay, well you could have taken care
of that in free agency, in the draft. That's like
they're trying to come up with a reason to justify
this trade. Right, So the team knows you can't. You can't,
you can't feed them aligne. They know how bad it is.
And and Schottenheimer said today, you know, we had an
honest conversation and it got passionate, right, like it got heated,
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but it was good.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
It was positive going on.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I don't know, you know, I get you know heat,
you know, it got passionate. I wonder if that's you know,
really the code for passionate is the Cowboys players going, hey.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Coach, what the blank are we doing?
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
What the blank?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We just traded the absolute biggest game changer, biggest defensive superstar.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
In the NFL and his sixty sacks or whatever it is.
How the hell are we gonna keep playing? Man? What's
that's what you're sending to us?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That is exactly what passionate means. It means that we're
screaming over the phone for the what did he say,
twelve to fourteen players he managed to hit up on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean so.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And that's the thing is that that's a really hard
message to send because the players are smart, right, they
know to you know, a week before the regular season
that we're kneecapping the team, we're taking away our best
defensive player and getting back.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Send a Dan Campbell resterence. Did that go over everybody's head?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Did you just that would bite?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I didn't say they were biting the knee couch. I
mean they were biting that would literally crushing. That's what
is just this is this is with the baton and
the big stick and like, yeah, just an kneecap you
right there, Like that's really what they're doing. And it's
it's a hard message to send this close to the season.
And it's not like you traded away Micah Parson. Okay,
well now we have money to go get guys. No,
(08:26):
you're you're you're on the hook with Clark now for
twenty million a year the next two years. Right, like,
where in what world does this make sense?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But this is the Cowboys and there's.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Been a pro bowler. Let's not you know, under sell
what Kenny Clark has been coming out of UCLA, A
very good pro. It's just not the same position. And
you still have a bad defense potentially.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean that's the part of it that really is
going to play out over the course of the next
few months. Right like the shock of the Parsons trade,
I get it, But think about how bad it can
get in Dallas this year, which if you hate the Cowboys,
it's like, think about how good can get Dallas. But
just think about how bad this gets if the Cowboys
start getting boat race and their offense isn't enough to
(09:06):
keep them in games, and all of a sudden they're
just getting like after the first three weeks, like it
could it could be absolute mutiny on the on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
The fans have already revolted.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm sure Micah Parsons is gonna get a standing ovation
when he gets to play back in Dallas this year.
Because everybody hates Jerry Jones. The Cowboys are the one
team where I think the fans hate their.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Own team more than they hate everybody else.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right, Like, as much as mad as I get at
the Jets sometimes I still love the Jets more than you,
But I really think Cowboys fans hate.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Their team more than they hate the Philadelphia Eagles. Right now,
who do you hate most? Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Eagles, Okay, Giants, Okay, I hate my team seventy five percent,
Eagles fifteen percent, Giants ten percent, Commanders ten percent.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Like that's how things are, That's how bad things are. Now.
You can imagine what that's gonna mean.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
If the Cowboys start out poorly and look like you
look at their schedule, that's going to happen, and I
can't imagine what life is going to be like for
Jerry Jones every game when knowing that I am punting
on the season and I failed in what I normally succeeded,
and that is the business aspect of signing players that
I want to give a lot of money to.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I failed on this.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That you think this is bad in Dallas, now just wait,
just wait until we get into October.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You reference October. The first game they have in October
is at the Jets. What will the record be after
those four Sundays in September? Because interestingly, and coink at Inkaly,
it's the Green Bay Packers at Dallas on a Sunday
night to end the month of September, if you can
believe that. So nobody's expecting to win at Philadelphia. Correct,
(10:49):
That's the NFL season opener on Thursday night. They've got
the Giants and Bears in between and then hosting Green Bay,
and they're already saying that. Of course, the new guy
on the Dallas side is going to be playing the
very first game, so I assume he'll be playing against
his own team, and we'll see Parsons in Dallas on
a Sunday night. I'm guessing that'll get a rating point
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or two.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, look, Dallas has become even more and this is
the one thing where Jerry Jones can pat himself on
the back and say, we're even more of a must
see now because of this trade. Because of this trade
is now there's so many people who want to see
the Cowboys fail, who want to watch the Cowboy not
really hate watch the Cowboys, but watch them and hope
they lose and root against them because boy, look at
Jerry Jones. I can't stand Jerry Jones. Whether you're a
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Cowboy fan or you're outside of it, you're laughing. But
it's like, oh, the Cowboys they carry themselves like they're
the greatest team in the world, and here they are.
They're gonna be terrible, and interest level in them is
even higher than it was because think about it, if
they didn't make this trade, right, just think about they
don't make the trade.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Dallas Cowboys, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
They're normally a really big story, right because they're the Cowboys,
just like the Steelers every year or a story because they're
the Steelers. Then you get the upper echelon of the
NFL from year to year. The last years, the Chiefs
have owned that. Now the Eagles are up on that,
the Niners, but every year it's the Cowboys, but epssell Boys.
It was just kind of a generic interest in the
Cowboys year. Now the Cowboys have become story number one,
(12:15):
right ahead of everything.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Else in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
The Cowboys and what they're doing following this Micah Parsons
trade has become story number one. It's leapt ahead of
if Shador Sanders winds up starting for the Browns. It's
lept ahead of if Caleb Williams starts out four and
oh for the Bears and he throws twelve touchdowns in
his first three games. And because I have him in Dynastay,
I hope so like it's jumped past that. Like the Cowboys.
Now the interest level has gone from a garden variety
(12:40):
great level of interest to now their number. They're the
number one story in the NFL. So Jerry Jones, at
least I know, is patting himself on the back for that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
And just to you know, you brought up other teams
that certainly have national interest a national fan base, but
the Dallas Cowboys not only have their local Dallas radio
station and all the affiliates in their network around Dallas, Texas, Oklahoma.
They have a separate Compass Media Networks has a separate
Dallas Cowboys radio network with a completely separate boost for
(13:13):
a national game. So there's another fifty to seventy radio
stations carrying Cowboys there, not with Brad Sham who's done
Cowboys for a year with completely separate crew. You look
at the masthead of the Dallas Cowboys media notes where
they say who's covering this game, and it says what
channel or what network is carrying and the announcers, and
then it says and it's this Compass network, and it's
(13:35):
this local Dallas network, and it's Telemundo and it's a
secondary and it's preseason, so we got two other TV.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
There's not enough space.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
On the page for all the live coverage of TV
and radio that goes on for this team, a team
that has not won the Super Bowl in thirty years.
To say there is still interest in the Cowboys is
an understatement.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now when it comes to Micah Parsons, Okay, this is
his big statement from today talking about the trade and
what he hopes happens with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Here's Michaeh Parsons.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
I looked on that wall and I saw Brett fav
I saw Reggie, I saw all those legends, and I
was like, I gotta be there.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And you know, you go and you.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Go near the draft room and they're all having their
hands up and they having that moment. I'm looking for
that moment, and you know, I'm going to take advantage
of this moment and maximize it to reach that moment.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know, this is the one part of the trade
where because it's the coverage has been widely negative. Cowvin obviously,
so right, I can't make it up how bad the
situation was. But for Micah Parsons, Now take take a
look at it from here. This is the Micah Parsons
question that I have. He's focused on wanting out for
so long, and he said today he didn't have a
(14:51):
say in the destination. Now, the Packers is a great
landing spot, obviously, and here he is. Obviously he's verse
in the history of the Packers and understands what the
legacy of the Packers is.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
And that's great. He's gonna spend the majority.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Of his prime, the rest of his prime until he's
thirty with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
So he's only played four years in the league at
this point.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I mean, so he's got You know, usually you'll
get linebackers like him having about a ten year NFL
career right before you start to slow down. Maybe guys,
maybe he's one of those guys like Miles Garrett that
will get into his thirties and still be really good
for the first couple of years. But you want to think, okay,
first half of your prime? Is any getting in the
back of the back half for your prime? All of
a sudden, he gets the trade, he gets what he wants.
(15:32):
But sometimes you get to the point where we have
to go, well, now what, right, Like he didn't have
a say with the Green Bay Packers. He's got to
make it work with the Packers, right, he said, I
did have a say. It did go to his preferred destination.
I want to play in this system because I'm gonna
be great here. Obviously Micah Parsons is good enough and
disruptive enough that he can work in any system. But
still it was basically, you're getting traded here, so you
(15:54):
have no saying where you're gonna go spend the next
few years. You've already agreed to a big contract extension.
You wanted to get paid.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You got that. Now you have to make it work.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And what if it doesn't work as well as it
did with the Cowboys. I mean, you don't think it
will because obviously he's that kind of a player.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
He's kind of a plug and play guy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But now you've gone from I want to be a cowboy,
want to be a cowboy, Now I want to get out,
and all of a sudden, here's your next four or
five years, and here's your money and good luck. Now
you have to make the best of it and really
enjoy it. And sometimes that goes great and sometimes it doesn't.
So there is a bit of a dark side from
Michaeh Parsons where suddenly you get thrown to a destination
(16:34):
that you didn't choose, that you're locked in there for
the next few years.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
You didn't have a free agency.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Tour, you didn't make your time, you didn't go and
get to go talk to teams and talk to coaches
and everything else. Now here you are now in Green Bay.
So now it better work for both sides. So there
is a bit of a dark side for it to
Micah Parsons, when you get thrown into a situation that
is just not of your making it all.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Sorry, Mike, you did get what he wanted, the trade
be the contract, So two out of three ain't bad.
And also, as we okay find he's going to green
Bay could be a playoff team. As you can recall,
green Bay was a playoff team at Dallas a couple
of years ago, back when Dallas had a great home wrecker,
back when Dallas had a better defense than the Packers
(17:18):
won that and ran up and down against the Cowboys
defense as I recall that day. But the calling card
has been the sacks and all that comes with that.
In his four year career in the league, Parsons can
not only pile up the sacks, he can tip the passes,
he can force the fumbles. He's not going to be
piling up tackles total. This is an edge rusher, not
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a middle linebacker, so he doesn't do everything out there,
but he does so much. He excels so much just
in the sack department you mentioned it. It's in the
four years, it's over fifty sacks. His lowest year for
a sack total was last year and he still had
twelve in only thirteen games played. It's quite Yeah, it's
quite a contract, but it's quite a player acquired by
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Green Bay as well.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Exit how about a fresco Jason Smith Steve de seger
in for Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It's okay, some bit of a dark side for the Green.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Bay Packers and a bit of a twisty good news
for the Cowboys because more people need way more people
will really care about them passionately this year, even you know,
just because they screwed up so badly. All right, hey,
you gotta hey, attention is great, right uh? Coming up next,
we will ask the scariest question about the college football season,
(18:32):
and it should scare everybody.
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Happy Friday, Happy college football Friday. Maybe you're happy because
you had the over between Auburn and Baylor. Maybe you're
(20:09):
happy because Colorado went down to defeat. Looked like Cayden
Salter had a receiver open at the end, could have
completed a Hail Mary, but led him a little bit
too far. Georgia Tech walks away with a twenty seven
to twenty victory.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We'll have more on this game.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Coming up in about fifteen minutes, and again next hour
Pete Feu Tech stops by to talk this and the
Big day headed tomorrow will preview Ohio State Texas. We
have Alabama, a big game Florida State. I'm so nervous
if Florida State's gonna suck, Steve, like, I don't know,
I don't know if the college football peers and we
can take another really bad year out of Florida State,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Man, that'd be tough.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
That would be unusual for all of us as fans.
Let's just put it that Way'd be.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Very difficult with me, Like, Wow, Florida State. Wow, They're just.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I gotta get used to this.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Okay, anymore we have any more yours, dellancibility that charge
of practice squad.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Can we get Charlie wardback Heisman Trophy winner? Can we
get can he come back and play?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
He was a good athlete. He probably could, you know,
swinging around the yard.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'll tell you a little a little overrated as a
next point guard.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
But still he was, you know, not bad, not bad
Charlie Wood.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
But speaking of stars, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Ask a question that's gonna scare a lot of people,
just should scare every college football fan. Tomorrow, obviously we're
gonna get our first glimpse at what Look, this is
one of the biggest absolutely opening day games we have
seen in our lifetimes. Texas and Ohio State, two teams
with national championship aspirations, two teams that have question marks
(21:46):
but tons of talent.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
And there is.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
No pressure on and we'll get to the other quarterback
with more pressure on Himan anybody else in a little bit.
But there is the spotlight extraordinary on our Manning.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Right. It's all we've talked about.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
College football needs a big star like Arch Manning to
cut through. It's it's how college football becomes bigger, Nashally
when you have that great.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Player Tim Tebow type.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah, you have that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Kind of guy that transcends the regionality of college football.
It's a big deal, right and arch Manning is We've
heard about him three years. For arch Manning now it's like, dude, really,
you had to go to Texas where Quinn? Come on, man,
you couldn't go. You can go any place else and
play right away.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What are you doing? Why are you doing a whole
major Apple white thing? Again? I don't understand. Why are
you doing this?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
An assistant coach shortly, Yeah, he's going to Major Apple right. Rap?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
No, I mean think about how history repeat. Twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
It was Chris Simms, relative of a great quarterback in
the NFL, deciding I want to go to Texas that
already had an established starter, and it took him forever
to win the starting job. Here you are, twenty years later,
arch Manning, relative of a couple of great quarterbacks with
established quarterback, they're already in Texas.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Took him a couple of years win the job. Like,
come on, man, but I gotta ask you.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
A question, Steve, because this is what you're scared everybody
in college football. What if arch Manning sucks? What if
he is not the guy that has been hyped.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Up to be.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I mean, not just a bad game tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
What if he is not a good quarterback? What if
he sucks?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
If you forget, I mean, we're gonna get our first
glimpse of him as a big time starter tomorrow. Right.
He hasn't had a lot of reps. He's played in
a lot of games. Right, So that's why we're gonna
get a pretty good display of his talent because he's
played in nine games. He's played a decent amount of football.
It's not suddenly, here's your offense after learning for a
couple of years. Right, we saw him playing big games
last year. But what if arch Manning sucks? What if
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he gets worked by Ohio State? What if he's just
not the big time superstar? How scary is that for
college football? Because he's not just a guy that we
move on from and say, okay, well he's not gonna
go to our next start. No, arch Manning is a legacy.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He is. He is the show.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You can't pump up a whole season around one guy
and then if he stinks, say okay, we're pivoting, like
you can't pivot away.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
He has built up that there's.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Only one option for him, and that is greatness, like
there is the like the eminem song, success is my
only blank and blanking option failures, not like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It's only success for arch Manning.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
If he sucks, college football is gonna take a huge
hit because where's your next cut through?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Cut through? Guy?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Arch Manning is the biggest superstar to come into this
game in quite some time now. Granted, yes, football you
get organic superstars from year to year and it happens,
but arch Manning is He's just extra special because of
his lineage and his legacy and the attention. Like, if
he sucks man college football, that's a huge blow. That's
(24:48):
a huge blow to the coast to coast popularity, coast
to coast popularity in their games because boy arch Manning
isn't what we.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Thought he was.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Like, that's the scariest I think that's the scariest outcome
for college football this year?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Is it? What if arch Manning sucks?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
A It's a question I hadn't thought of. B It's
a question that will not be answered tomorrow because once again,
you're not talking about if he's bad on the road
against the defending national champs. That would be for anyone
just a little bit early to be making conclusions about
what this guy's season and or career is going to be.
(25:23):
At this level he has already had and I think
this was a good point that needs to be brought
out more. As you referenced, he already has plenty of
time in a Texas uniform, not just last year. He
made brief appearance the year before that. I'm not saying
you can't, you know, have nerves going into a big
opener like this. It would be very normal too. But I,
(25:44):
like you, I'm not thinking he's going to be overwhelmed
by the moment for four quarters tomorrow. He's had serious
time from last year and a very good Texas team
last year obviously.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, I mean, look, no, I think he's going to
be fine, right, obviously being the more of a dual
red quarterback than you expect, because like, look, people are
gonna get their first real glimpse of Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
They're really trying to wish him into the dual threat existence. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, I mean, well, you know he's fast, right, you know,
he's as fast as Tyreek Hill, right, Look how fast
he was on the scramble. But Obviously, he's much more
mobile than Peyton. Manning is much more mobile than Eli Manning.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Look, I told you, I made Simms. I told or
Phil Simms.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Uh so he as I said, tomorrow, I'm taking Texas big.
I think arch Manning is gonna play big and he's
gonna make a lot of plays with his legs because
that's gonna happen while as he settles in. But he
can do that, and everybody's gonna kind of get their
first real glimpse of him tomorrow because we've only seen
him in bits and spurts, and he's not getting reps
(26:42):
with the ones because quinn Ewers got all.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Reps last year.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
But you know, listen, if he's not good man that,
I don't know where college football goes to say, Okay,
here's our big storyline and now, oh instead focus on this.
Now that's a that's a big blow, you know, nationally,
to to a sport that's hoping to gather all those
headlines and really push arch Manning ahead of college football
(27:06):
for the next three months.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It would be a surprise in general, But again, it
has nothing to do with him having one bad game
against the defending national champs, who did they not have
the best defense in the whole country last year? This
is what he's walking into at Columbus. It is I mean,
when it's the next time he's going to get the
dista a test, honestly, in his career, it could be
(27:28):
a while, So let's not overreact to tomorrow. It is
an interesting question because, believe me, I had not even
thought of that as a possibility. Their next few games
after playing at Ohio State, San Jose State, UTEP, Sam Houston. Okay,
so he might have some time to recover, even if
(27:48):
he has to, say a game tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
So I'm looking at the schedule and I say, okay,
stat game, stat game, stat game. Yeah, he'll be fine.
Now he could put it to bed tomorrow. He has
a big day against Ohio States with three touchdowns and
you know, maybe two hundred and fifty yards passing one
hundred yards, but whatever, it was all of a sudden,
it's wow. Look at I mean, this is we'll remember
the first snap the first day Arch Manning really you know,
(28:11):
it was became the big superstar of college football. He
can put that to he can put that to bed
tomorrow with a big day and I hear you in
the fact that, Okay, you can't really get on a
guy for losing his first game against the defending national champions.
But Texas is pretty good. He's got he's got, he's
got a pretty good team around him. He's had two
years to learn the offense and get comfortable, and if
(28:35):
he lays an egg tomorrow, it's you know, I get it.
I hear what you're saying. But at the same time,
it's like, uh, well, you expect great players to play
great against really good teams them, you know, that's why
you got like that the whole Great players play great
against great teams, right the you know, big players play big,
big games.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Like Sam Darnold in the NFL last year, right, maybe
not a good example.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well that was all the way up into they had
big games like that would be the phrase for Darnold.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, you know, the two games at the end of
the year, and then nobody talks about how great the
season was before that.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
He was so great right up until the time they
needed him the most. It was so great.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
That's actually exactly how to put it.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
But that's but that's the thing, like, no matter what
you can, you know there's going to be the part
of you that can write off a bad game, but
the general narrative is going to be, boy, he was
really that bad.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I mean, this is and this is both teams starting off.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
This is not a veteran Ohio State team that's bringing
back ten guy. Look you they're bringing back the two
best players in the country, you know, at at at
safety and at wide receiver. Right, so I mean that
you have those.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Season All American wide receiver Jeremiah Smith Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I mean, look, kirsch Towns, if quarterbacks weren't the most
important position, cable Down is probably going number one in
the draft. Like, he's probably the best safety prospects since
Rod Woodson. Right, but still, you know it's eleven on
eleven game and Texas is still really good, and you
would expect there, Hey, on a great team, I'm gonna
be able to do some things in this game.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
And if he's not.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That that's that's gonna that's gonna more than just poke
its head out. It's gonna be a it's gonna be
a big storyline where all of a sudden it's gonna
be Okay, maybe now he's really not that good, and
then you're gonna get the games going on. But after
he's beating teams like sam Houston State or Texas State,
it's gonna be okay. But what about the next good
team he plays like, Okay, that's great that he's doing
this is great. That he threw five touchdowns and came
(30:25):
out of the game middle of third quarter. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Well, you got Georgia, show me the next game.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Sure, show me the next game.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
He did play a lot in September of last year,
wound up with nine touchdowns to interceptions, so he got
a lot of time in against the easier competition. It
really if I were a coach, it really would be
nice if college football had a preseason. You could play
somebody else, or do one of those NFL things where
they actually before the preseason games, they actually scrimmage, which
(30:52):
is more tense really for the starters than the actual
weekend you know thing that on the schedule that they
sell tickets to, which is biggest scam in NFL history.
That's a separate subject. He's been on the field. I
don't think he's gonna lay an egg. Like, man, I
don't think this guy can play the sport or anything
like that.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Exit how about a Fresco Jason Smith, Steve Desager in
for my Car. But again, just something to think of. Look,
I think he's gonna be really good, right, I've seen
enough of him clearly. Look, there's a reason he's the
number one recruit and he's been really good in limited play.
But you never know until you really see the guy
and if he's not. But that's a huge blow for
college football. Man Tong gotta find out what's trending in
(31:32):
the wide world of sports from special delivery Steve to Sager,
who has been called the Jonah Tongue of Fox Sports
Radio No because they call him the King.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
What's trending?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Buddy, I'm gonna have to explain the reference because there's
this isn't a you know, we don't have video, we
can't put notes for like at the end of your
college paper. It's if you look at the back page
you can understand or at the bottom you know. Jonah
Tongue man is Major League in New York and the
Mets beat Miami nineteen to nine. Jonah Toong had an
(32:05):
eer and the miners of one point four to three
and was quite good tonight five innings, one earned run, allowed,
six strikeouts, a win for the Mets, six homers for
New York. Philadelphia did win two to one over Atlanta
with a run in the bottom of the eighth.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The starter, now, we'll tell you, We'll tell you this,
Steve New York nineteen Miami nine. I'll take that in
the football season two and I think that could actually
be a finals.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Could absolutely it could happen in that division. Philadelphia's starter
Tonight Rager Suarez, who's ten and six this year, had
no decision. He went five innings, one run end, ten
hits allowed against the Braves. Speaking of Atlanta, left handed
pitcher Chris Sale could return Saturday. He's been out since
June with a ribcage injury. The Phillies are still the
first place team in the NL East, five games over
(32:49):
the Mets. Saint Louis won at Cincinnati and ten innings,
seven to five, which is great news for the Mets
because the Reds were they had sunk down to four
games out of the last NL wildcard behind New York.
You can make it five now. The Dodgers are in
action right now and getting shut out at home by
the Arizona Diamondbacks. Three nothing. D Backs in the top
of the six. Blake Snell is out of there, allowing
(33:11):
the three runs in five and a third. He did
strike out eight. The Padres have already lost seven to
four Minnesota over San Diego. Nester Cortes took the l
and Padres shortstop Xander Bogarts went on the injured list
with a broken foot. The Dodger lead in the NL
West was two games over the Pods. To start the day,
Detroit and Houston with wins. Yankees won their six in
(33:33):
a row Pittsburgh a four to two winner at Boston
Paul skeins. The victory. Boston ends a four game win streak.
Milwaukee won at Toronto seven to two, and Cleveland with
two runs in the bottom of the ninth, beat Seattle
and closer Andres Munoz five to four. And opening loss
in college football at Colorado for the Buffaloes giving up
a late touchdown twenty seven to twenty. Was the final
(33:55):
for Georgia Tech, and the game winner was scored on
a forty five yard TV run with about a minute
left by quarterback Haines King, who had nineteen carries one
hundred and fifty six yards and three scores two turnovers
as well Michigan State and Appalachian State with wins. Twelfth
ranked Illinois fifty two to three over Western Illinois. Auburn
(34:16):
won the game on Fox TV tonight at Baylor thirty
eight to twenty four. Army was beaten at home in
double overtime by Tarleton State. Wins for Kansas and for
wake Forest, which wanted home ten to nine against Kennesaw State.
Currently in progress early third UNLV up thirty one seven
at Sam Houston and on FS one second quarter Central
(34:37):
Michigan leads thirteen to seven at San Jose State. That
Texas at Ohio State game is on Fox TV Saturday
noon Eastern Time, and the New England Patriots release safety
Jabriel Peppers back to you.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Thank you, Steve oh Jasus Smith, Steve de Sager in
from Mike Harmon tonight. Coming up next, two big debuts
this weekend in college football. We break them down straight ahead,
including one debut that really might surprise you. That's next
right here, Jason Smith, Steve Sager, This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
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Speaker 1 (35:19):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with special delivery Steve
de Sager in from Mike Harmon Big night in college football.
We got Pete fu Tech coming up next hour. We
had the big debut tonight of Caden Salter as Colorado quarterback.
Not exactly what Dion Sanders had in mind.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
That's a waking close Marv Albert reference there.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
For that, exactly what Deon Sanders had in mind.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Much better.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That was always great because there's always where like here
would be like a like a fast break and the
ball would get passed with three on one of the
ball would go out of bounds, and Marv Albert say,
not exactly what Mike Frotillo had in mind.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What I remember most is he used to narrate the
sports funnies highlights coming on David Letterman Show all the
time in New York, and inevitably, I mean he was
there monthly. Inevitably one of the highlights did have him
saying exactly that when likely somebody did exactly that, not
what he had in mind.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Not exactly time out, they want to talk it over.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So the debut of Caden Salter quarterback tonight for Colorado.
Kind of a mixed bag. I mean, obviously not the
result Colorado wanted. They fall to Georgia Tech twenty seven
to twenty. Haines King not a great night, but throwing
the football, but running the football boy one hundred and
fifty six yards and three touchdowns for Georgia Tech. Colorado
(36:46):
could not stop Georgia Tech on the ground. They ran
for three hundred and twenty yards. Caden Salter touchdown, running, touchdown, throwing,
but Colorado loses twenty seven to twenty. This is one
of those free games for Georgia Tech, right, Like you
look at Colorado coming into this year and so much
attention obviously on Dion Sanders on the Colorado Buffalos, you know,
(37:08):
replacing Travis Hunter, replacing Shador Sanders, replacing Shiloh Sanders, replacing
Frank Sanders, replacing Colonel Sanders.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
A free game for them visiting Colorado.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, free game because Okay, you're not opening up
against an FCS, you're opening up against someone. But look,
you're opening up against the decent, middle of the pack
Georgia Tech team and Colorado. I'm not discouraged by them
losing at home tonight This is a six to eight
win Colorado team. Cadence Salter is a good quarterback and
(37:40):
you saw him play better and better as the game
went on.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Uh, he's gonna be fine. Right.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We talked about him being the big sought after transfer
out of Liberty last year. Again, I really wanted Syracuse
to get him, but he see he didn't leave Colorado
without signing with with Dion. Uh, Colorado will be okay.
This is this is a year where it's not like
sudden Deon's built up all these great recruits and we're
just gonna roll over from one great quarterback to the next. Right,
(38:06):
that's not Alabama, It's not way it is. But the
Big twelve is not great. The schedule gets tougher at
the end of the year, in which by that point
Colorado will be playing better football. This is absolutely fine.
If you're talking about a six to eight win season
for Colorado, that's a success coming off of what you
had last year. Right, you're sending guys to the NFL,
(38:27):
big high profile, You're still building things in Colorado. There's
still a good faction of the population going, Ah, is
Dion really a great coach?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Can he really continue to build can.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
He win without his kids, Like even after a couple
of years, there's still those question marks.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Colorado's fine.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
They have a lot of talent, they have good coaching staff,
they have the athletes in there.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
They will be just fine.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
You look at their schedule again, it's not a bunch
of world beaters throughout the rest. They have Delaware, then
it's Houston Wyoming BYU Again, congratulations, because the Big Twelve
is terrible. You get those tougher teams towards the end,
but that's when you'll be playing better football. And Dianna's
show that, Hey, we'll put points on the board. We're
going to fill our holes. This is still a six
to eight win team, and that's a victory for Colorado
(39:11):
Bowl eligible going to a bowl the year after to
show that you're still playing well, you're still building in
Colorado that successful season. Even though they lost to Night,
I'm still arrow up on them for a six to
eight win season.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
And the Big Twelve was last year certainly not terrible,
and it was competitive and Colorado was one of those
teams competing. There was a four way tie for first
by the end of the season last year and it
included Colorado and there were three other teams that finished
only a game back in the standings. And you might say, man,
that's over half the teams in the Big twelve. Actually
(39:43):
it's just called Big twelve. They're like most confidences, there's
actually more than twelve. It's a long list of they're
in that conference. Oh they're in the yeah, yeah, you
know Utah, it's going to be the late game on
Fox tomorrow night at UCLA. That's not a Pac twelve matchup.
Just for the record, Utahs in the Big twelve. They
have a lot of schools in the league, Gon like
the Big Ten and you know everybody else. But I
(40:06):
think they'll be just fine. I think Colorado will be
competitive as they were last year.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's one of those cases where all right, if they
don't win big, you think it's a failure.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
No, it's this again.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Colorado's not altabeit. I haven't won big yet, right, They've turned.
They've turned a team that was a one win team
and that boy, they were absolute the dregs of the
Big twelve, or they were twelve now the Big twelve.
Now now they're at destination Diana shot. I'm staying, at
least for now, I'm gonna turn this around. We're gonna go.
He stayed longer than we thought he was gonna stay
in the beginning, his kids are gone. He thought he
was gonna go. No, he's still there. It's arrow up
(40:40):
and six to eight wins sometimes that's successful season.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And I still feel that's what's gonna be Colorado year
this year.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
And we can't forget what the program was that you reference.
They were literally not just bad, I mean like averaging
giving up forty and only scoring about ten to fourteen
themselves game after.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Game exit out to Fresco. We have more college football
on the way. We got Pete Feutech stop and buy
college Footballnews dot Com Insider.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
We take a look at all the.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Big games tomorrow Texas, Ohio State, What about LSU Cleansing
and the rest.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Keep it right here, Happy college football Fox
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