June 28, 2023 • 31 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss if Josh Jacobs could hold out into the 2023 season, Ryan Seacrest plans to succeed Pat Sajak as the host of "Wheel of Fortune", and Steve Cohen promises some straight answers about the Mets tomorrow! Plus, Jason La Canfora - Longtime NFL Insider joins the guys!
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
The way tire buying should be well. Frank the Tank
very happy to night.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The Mets won a game, so I think things should
be okay at least the next twenty four hours until.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Steve Cohen speaks and he talks.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Tomorrow and he's gonna tell everybody about this state of
the Mets. And I'm just I just got my fingers crossed, going,
what is what is going on?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
How does that make you feel? What does he do
with the fact that he's doing a speech.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
You know, here's the thing, and this is what drives
me crazy, right, this is this is this is the Mets.
So they win tonight, but obviously they're this big story
the last couple of days because the way they lost
the Phillies and the biggest mess. Uh that money can
buy the nearly four hundred million dollar pay roll, and
they stink. And that's become a bigger and bigger story
over the course of this year because now it looks
like the Mets really do stink. Like I told you
(01:30):
weeks ago, the Mets stunk, but now everybody's coming around
to it. Boy, now they really really stinking. Look at
all this money and ha ha ha. And now Steve
Cohen puts out a tweet today Mets owner saying, Hey,
I'm gonna talk tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You'll get it straight from me. It's almost like I
feel like he's how how do I say this?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's like when you you your your son or daughter
is sleeping over somebody's house and there's a whole bunch
of kids around you, and you call over just to
see how things are going, and you call and talk
to you know the girls. Dad says, yeah, no, no,
you know what, I let me go check on them.
I'll call you back. Go, yeah, I just checked in.
They're all watching a movie, they're all gonna go to
(02:10):
sleeps and everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Okay, great.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I feel like that's who he is, Like, he's a listen,
I'll don't worry. I'll check on the kids, and then
I'll let you know that everything is fine, so everybody
can breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy the night,
you know, without the kids and whatever date night you're having,
or you're going to a movie or something else, you're
just hanging out and going to sleep early, relaxing.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Like that's what he is.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Like he's the adult making sure everything is okay and
all the kids are playing nice together. That's kind of
what I get from this, And I go, this is
not what we need.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This is not this is not this is not anything.
This is not anything.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is just Now it's gonna be even more embarrassing
that the owner's gotta have a hey, I can make sure.
I just want to let you know that everything is
fine and I've checked on everything. A press conference tomorrow,
which is gonna be embarrassing as hell. But yet the
Mets are gonna have it because you know, Mets, do
you really.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Call over on sleep overnight? Oh really that guy? No?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, not really, No, every no, everything is usually every no.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But I but like, that's what I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, in the first couple of times, I would
call just to say good night, just to say, hey,
good night, you're good. Yeah, okay, great, we'll see you tomorrow,
and every you know, just like that. It's just that
calls the good night.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
But you didn't call it updated on the Mets score.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, Hey, the Mets are losing. Okay, Dad, thanks,
I figured that was happening, all right, great. No, but
there's some there's some parents who like to you know,
like to call it, Hey, everything is okay, you know,
a little nervous their kids spending wide. No worry, I'm
gonna I'll make sure the kids are okay. That's kind
of what I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, you know what those parents are gonna lie to
you anyway, or your relatives. If you left it with
a relative, what are they gonna say it's all gone
to hell? Because then they look bad. I haven't about kid,
it's about it. And now they look bad because your
kid's unhappy being at their place. Wait, your kids here,
I haven't seen her really Awkwards, yes, really to find her?
(03:56):
You sure she's here? Zoe is here? All right? I
got all right?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, I guess it's fine. Great, Now I gotta
go find somebody else's hit all right, great, we just
showed them slender.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Man, I have you know, you gotta stop. You got
to the whole show. But you gotta stop. You brought
up slender Man last night. You gotta stop. You gotta
stop fringing that up.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Man. Oh here comes Jason.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You gotta stop, man, you gotta stop. But yes, the
state of the Union thing. Halfway through a season, you
spent a lot of money and you feel the need
to go do this. Just just hang out on Twitter
with your your fans. You know, you send them hot dogs.
(04:38):
You have a couple of those little guys, roll up
with their carts and feed everybody for a day and
just say it's gonna be okay. And if not, you
know what, the sun's gonna come up tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You have another hot dog.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So I I'm not a helicopter parent.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Mess you just I'm standing outside with the boom box,
I can say anything. It's playing playing. I'm playing the
Door of the Explorer song for there's my Dad.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Do you see my dad? If you can see him,
yell Dad, yell at yell it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I say, y no, it's it's it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's embarrassing. That's what I feel like. It's that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh, now the now the owner's got his Okay, I talk.
Don't worry, guys, I checked on everything. Everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay, thanks. They tell me. Buck tells me he's got
everything under control. And then in the second half way
do you see how he manages the bullpen? Wait, he's
got ideas. Way do you see how we're able to
offload Sures or in Ferlander? It's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Fantastic, I'm Buck.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah. How are you gonna solve things? Steve Cohen? Well, basically,
I'm gonna eat all this money.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We're gonna trade away all these older guys and try
it again next year.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Any chance is there any chance that Showalter gets fired here? No? No, no,
no not or did they just say, hey, it's a
bunch of overpriced guys that are underperformance.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's not his fault.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, what they're gonna do is.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
As they fall out of contention, they're gonna try to
trade all the higher priced guys so they're not on
the books for next year, and they're gonna try to
move on and get whatever. You Look, they had to
eat a lot of money to trade Escobar, but they
got two pictures for him. Okay, so you're gonna see
stuff like that. They have to eat a lot of
money to trade and get rid of Verlander. But h
I you know that's gonna be their focus now. It's
(06:34):
I'm telling you the Mesa can be like Fileen's bargain basement. Man,
you're gonna walk in. Hey, we'll give these guys away.
You just pay their salary. But well, we don't want
to pay their or they will pay the salary. You
give us prospects. Okay, hey, but everybody's available.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
If you want a mint twenty twenty three pe Alonzo,
I can pair that up with a with a really
old twenty twenty three Max Sures or an Ay, we
can make a deal. Man, you make a deal. You
want a mint condition Francisco Dure for thirty million dollars
here the next year? Yeah, you don't even have to
give us a lot back, maybe like just one prospect,
just pay a salary so we can go make other
(07:08):
mistakes with big money and go do all that that
that's all you need to do.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I gotta be honest, though he's a bit weathered and
he's had a little bit of injury. He's near mint
at best. He's got a couple of bent corners. Maybe
a center is a little off at this point.
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Match Now from the Mets, We're gonna embarrass everybody. Tomorrow
We'll have a big left. I am ready to make
a match for a sports show that is looking for
a match. You ready, Yeah, let's go all right now,
as you all know, as you know, you know, Shannon
(07:57):
Sharp leaving undisputed a couple of weeks ago. Now it's
open for who's gonna wind up being in the chair
opposite Skip Bayless And when this happened. I told you
it's not gonna be one other person. It's gonna be
like a rotating group of a couple of people. That's
kind of how it's gonna be. It's skip show, It's
it's that's what is So it's not gonna be just
one person. Now, maybe they've been auditioning through the media
(08:21):
the last few weeks with a couple of hot takes
and see what's out there. But these guys are free
agents or people who could sign, because it's kind of
tough if someone has already contracted the ESPN or CBS
or somewhere else to get him out of a deal
to come over and do Undisputed. But how about this,
I'll just throw this out there. How about alternating days
(08:41):
on Undisputed Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Think about that for a second. They alternate days on
Undisputed Pippen and Rodman. What do you think? I think
it works. I mean a lot of hot take nonsense. Hey,
what did he say? He said something? I'm gonna come
back over the top and this has nothing to do
People were getting all over him over what he wore
to a Pride event. I mean and rally and and parade.
(09:11):
It like just literally, it's just one thing after another,
just lunacy. Larry Bird would be playing in Europe. What
are we doing?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, well, hey, come on, man, hot takes, hot takes,
hot takes, hot takes, hot takes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, but I mean, even the guys that have a
lot of these jobs, the hot takes are just bad.
They're just dumb, just open mouths say things. I mean,
it's a little bit of cognitive ability here, you know,
should should be a requirement. And well, these guys are
just Hey, I got a flamethrower and I'm not really
gonna think what am I gonna do with it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I didn't know it was gonna.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Burn stuff down. But yes, I think that would be
entertaining because Skip Bayless covered them both. Yeah, certainly covered
Scottie Pippen quite a while when he was a columnist
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, Scotty especially I would love because he would just
blow tow everybody like that would be the best part.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
He would heed just doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Rodman would be tough because okad, look I'll pull the
curtain back here for a little bit. When Fox Sports
Radio first started you ready for this, here here's me,
you know, twenty nine year old, brand new to radio.
I've never really done national radio before. But you know,
I get hired to do updates for Fox Sports Radio.
And this is in two thousand, you know two that
(10:24):
went when when Fox Sports Radio started. And we have
a big meeting like a month before we go on
the air, and all the talent is there, and the
GM is in a big room and he's talking about
what the lineup's gonna look like and everything else. We're
all sitting here. We're going through stuff with consultants and
all this. And he says, and I want to let
you all know we are negotiating with Dennis Rodman to
(10:46):
do a show every day, for us to do a
lunch lunch with Dennis Rodman. Everyone goes, oh, anybody have
any questions? And people aren't ask questions. And you know me,
just because I'm coming from this from I've produced television
for a long time and I've covered Dennis Rodman and
and I raise my hand, I go, are we sure
(11:07):
he's gonna do it? Like, how's he gonna be? He
sure he's gonna be able to do it every day
and do a show for an hour. I said, he's
got to travel, he's got a fly, He's gotta and
everybody looked at me like, what the hell is wrong
with you?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Man?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean here, I'm thinking of it from hey like
a practical standpoint of are really gonna get Rodman to
do a show every This is in the middle of
his playing days, right this he's playing with the bulls.
I'm like, is he gonna do a show for an
hour every day? You're Carl Malone when he was hanging
out with Vic the brick?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, Like, are you you're able to air this, you know,
an hour?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like because this is rich because the show at twelve
twelve o'clock comes, whether or not Dennis Rodman's doing a
show or not, whether or not he's taping a show
or not.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I go, are we sure he could do that?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And you know, because and here I am completely seeing
myself differently than everybody else in that room. Did they
see me as who the hell is this part time
update anchor? Saying that, you know is rock peckin Rodman?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
When I'm going dude, I've produced the highighest level and
there's no way in hell Dennis Rodman is going to
do this, Why are we even thinking about this?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So that's what I'm thinking, And the GM goes, well,
we actually have we're actually negotiating with him to be
able to have a unit to record a show with
when he goes on the road. And I go, okay,
all right, and I just go that's never gonna happen.
Here's a question, Mike, do you think that ever happened?
Do you think Dennis Robin never did a lunchtime show
for an hour at Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yes? Or no? What do you think? What do you
think I'm gonna go on a lamb and say no, no,
you are correct. The answer is no. That we've had
some powerhouses in that noontime, you know, midday slot, going
back a lot of years. I don't remember Dennis Robin
being no, no, because I've been here a minute at
this point.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, but look, but Scotty would be great because you
know we'd blow torch everybody and you have rotating people
and you have people on during football, seas everything else.
But right now, you know you can you could get
Robin to do like a day at mut What could
he do like a mammy? Can you count on him
for a day or two weeks. I'll you can get
Scotty for a couple of days, surely, and that'd be
some fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He'd bring that bourbon on the set with him and
just you know, be pouring drinks for everybody if you know, hey,
my hot take here is brought to you by whatever
the name of this bourbon is. I think all kinds
of new stuff you could do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No think, I think it works. And you would never
actually have to talk about basketball in twenty twenty three,
except for the comparisons to the all time greats. No,
that's gonna ask here's two guys that we're just gonna
put up on a board. It's instead of playing a
word associations like here's a picture, got it's where the
thousand words go.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
They would talk about Lebron and Jordan every day. Every
day would be a Lebron Jordan conversation, every single no
matter what happened the night before, Lebron Jordan, that's the conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
And Larry Bird can't play.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Oh yeah, Larry Bird, Larry Bird is playing in Europe. Yes,
then they get Larry Bird on to defend himself. It
would be musty TV. No, that would happen as well.
But there you go, man, I tell you you got negotiation.
You got an audition through the media for it. Robin
and Pippen, Robin and Pippen, who knows?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
There you go.
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(14:32):
Mike Harmon, Your White Sox are just getting worked by
one guy. Tonight show, Hey, Otani through five and a
third innings, seven strikeouts, two hits is shutting out the
White Sox two zip.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He is also two for two with a home run.
You are losing to one person tonight, one person, one
person only. Sometimes you just pause and you channel your
inner Homer Simpson when he was battling the Carnies. We
were beaten by the best, but he didn't seem so
we were beaten by the best. No, look, Otani's just
(15:08):
that guy right number twenty seven, a four hundred eighteen
foot shot to right center and on the mound, just
getting it done. I loved after the home run. Everybody
wanted to high five him, and he did this little
motion like, leave me alone. I gotta get ready to pitch.
I gotta switch back into that other guy method acting
in three two. All right, I'm now Otani pitcher. Let's go.
(15:31):
So look at this point with the White Sox, I
have no expectations except for the fact that that division
stinks so bad. It takes one good run and all
of a sudden you're in the in business. Hey, first
team to seventy wins, the division could well maybe seventy two. Okay,
seventy two and a half. I don't know what the
over underwind totals are right now, you know. But here's
(15:54):
the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Not that this is a dark side fro to Oh
my god, people are gonna kill me for this.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The dark side of not that this is I mean
that dark side of the ring. Is that specials that
they do on wrestling stories that went awry, So that
air for where you go.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Now, buddy, the dark side of the ring, not that
that there's a dark side for Otani, but obviously he's
gonna stay in Angel now up through the trade deadline,
we're getting to the end of getting to the end
of June. The Angels are in are right there for
a playoff chase, and and they're gonna want to keep him.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They may making the.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Move to trade for Eduardo Escobar uh to fill in
wild surprise, surprise, Anthony rendonas Hurd again.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, and then they went and added Mustakas after beating
the the breaks off of the Rockies, yeaid twenty five
to one win. Oh and we want him to Yeah,
you're you're adding veterans to help you.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
This is not This does not portend to Hey, we're
not adding Escobar and Mustakas to trade Otani, right, So
Otani's gonna stay a Angel. So that so that's gonna
that's gonna wint where he winds up finishing the season.
Here's what I here's what I worry about, right, is
that because I know the Mets are gonna get.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
There because we're gonna we're gonna get rid of everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
For Otani, all the money he's going to get probably
a fifty million dollar year contract at least. And my
concern is it's weird to say this because, yeah, you
sign a guy hoping that he's going to give you
the numbers and the stats that he's been giving.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But boy, I really would worry that just think of
the money that goes into this if Otani isn't this.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Guy all the time?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Right, like you know, because now he's been succeeding in Anaheim,
and it's been a great situation for him. He's kind
of been in a big market, but not really. He's
been able to get a lot of attention, but not really.
He's been able to any criticism, not a lot of criticism.
So it's almost like he's been in a great he's
been in a great situation. Now you change him and
(17:49):
you put him in a different spot. You put him
in a bigger city, you put him in New York
or someplace where it's a really really really big deal
where it's the only game in town. And you were
brought in and given all that money to be this
kind of guy. I'd be so afraid that that wouldn't
work out, that he wouldn't be this guy when he
changes locations, like if he goes to play in New York,
(18:11):
or he goes and plays in Miami wherever he wants
to go play, goes and plays in Seattle, whatever it is,
and you're into him for fifty million dollars a year
for the next ten years, and you're talking about five
hundred million dollars whatever it is, I really am, I
really am worried thinking about it from the other team's
perspectives that, boy, what if this is?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
This is just not who he's gonna be overall, because.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Other players you can say, well, if I give Bryce
Harper all this money, I know what I'm gonna get.
I know I'm gonna get thirty to forty home runs,
he's gonna knock in one hundred and twenty runs, he's
gonna hit two eighty two ninety, he's gonna be one
of our leaders. We're gonna get great stuff him for
the next ten years.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But here's Otani that is doing something that we've never
seen before. Can that travel? Can that travel? Can he
be continue to be this kind of picture and that
kind of hitter for the course of the next five
or seven years. That's what I'm afraid of. That is
this sustainable if he changes locations and and and and
because you're all of a sudden right now. Otani is
(19:09):
a great story. He's playing outside of the LA market. Yeah,
he's making good money, but he's not making the unbelievable
money he's going to make. There's been no criticism for
him because everything has been positive. But once you take
that money, you change, you go to where the pressure
is hotter. Is he still going to be the same guy?
That's what That's what worries me about Otani.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I think the big thing to pondering all this
and I hate to be that pragmatic business side put
that hat on. I'm less, I don't, so I'll do
it here. Uh. Part of what you're you're getting with
Otani is the mystique and the tourist attraction and and
and that is one of the reasons that I think
for Artie Morino outside of the Hey, I don't want
(19:46):
a bunch of people in the fish wraps to keep
writing bad about me that I traded this guy away.
I think that's one of the considerations. There's a lot
of revenue that still can be had for half a season,
not to mention all the promotional dates that haven't even
been announced yet. I mean, what else could we put
his head on before the season ends. But for teams
that are looking, whether it's the Dodger or the end, yeah,
(20:08):
you sell well and you print money. But you know what,
you can always print a little bit more. And with
Otani come into town. That's what you do. All of
the ancillary T shirt and giveaways and extra seats sold
with Dodger Stadium, and that's that's not a huge percentage
that you need to bounce up, but you can certainly
raise ticket prices right inelastic demand for most of those sections,
(20:33):
So raise it another twenty bucks or whatever. People are
gonna blink. You might lose one or two, but guess what,
there's like shark's teeth, take a bite, the next toots
coming cupping up to replace the other one. So I
think from a monetary perspective, you'll you'll get your your way.
Now when we talk about performance, now, the performance, the
(20:53):
pitching side of it is what you're always concerned with
with a guy who's already had, you know, one major
injury during his time in the major leagues, and that
at some point it starts to drift, just like we've
been talking about, Well, eventually, like with Freddie Freeman discussion yesterday, right, Well,
eventually he'll DH in that and whatever, and that becomes
a consideration. Say he became a Dodger. Now you got
(21:14):
those two guys battling for DH roles. Let's go. But
it's it's that kind of consideration as you go, He's
still a potent hitter and Anaheim's not exactly the easiest
place to mash, and he's done that with just him
and Trout and a bunch of banjo guys oftentimes during
his years there, because you can't say, hey, Rendon, you
(21:35):
know you had the projected stuff that you would have
played out on your your video games or in your
fantasy estimates without factoring in the big injury, missing missing time.
But for Otani, yeah, at this point, you're you're in,
and you just try to give yourself as many outs
(21:56):
because I gotta imagine whatever deal he's signing, there's gonna
be an out year or two in there as well.
Either for renegotiation or hey, I'm not happy here and
we need to end this player options will be popped
into that contract for sure. Twitter At how about a
Fresco Mike get swollen dome again? Just to what they'll
worry if. Is he changed? When he changes? Is he
(22:16):
still gonna be that guy?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, here's one hundred million dollars a year, O Todi,
you're gonna start every third day? Well, no, I could
play first base every day. No, no, no, no, no,
You're gonna pitch every third day. I'm sorry, that's how
it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Then we're going throwback? Now, how many? How many starts?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I remember when Mordecai three fingered Brown would pitch every
day for a week Smithers and he would go a
complete game at least four out of those five days.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Guys, while we're talking MLB, you want you want a
good one here?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
What's so good?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
The Padres lost again?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But that's not even the story. They lose the story?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
What's the story? But wait, there's more.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
There is a lot more. Mashada one for four, Tatis
oh for five, Machado. The media tried to talk to
him after the game. Yeah, he declined to talk, saying
he didn't have the time.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Wow, well maybe he was going out to dinner and
they had an early reservation.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It was night out in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well they could be going to the Oh in Pittsburgh
to get those bike tailors switching out there anymore.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
She's moved on to Cincinnati, and he was going to
Brimani Brothers.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We're on to Cincinnati. I need a sandwich. We're moving
on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
No, you talk about a guy that, I mean, what
is going on in that clubhouse? I want to watch
it and laugh.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
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Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know, it's almost like we had our own perfect
game going tonight, Like I'm going we are now two
almost three hours into the show and maok, two full
hours into the show and tysherit hasn't played one Tears
for Fear song yet.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's like being it's like no hitting someone through five.
I'm like, boy, no, no, now it's over. You played
Tears for Fears?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Bad job by you? I played one so far.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
What did you play earlier?
Speaker 5 (24:04):
It was one of the deep cuts.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh deep cut? Okay, so spider Man. So it was
something that I just didn't respond to.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I mean, I guess all right, Well, listen, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
If you play a deep cut and I don't know it,
because you know, Tears are Fears only has a very
few songs that are good, that's okay because if I
don't know, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
So then I can get away with songs you don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, but then you get to put where people are going,
what the hell is going on with the music selection
on this show? And then you know you wind up
getting replaced by an Ai.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Alex Tischer can't be any worse than last night's music.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I mean, you are right though, I am probably the
most pinnacle part of the show.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I get you, Jay, Yeah, but you are you are.
AI can easily come in and do what you.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Do, oh without a doubt your job too soon?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, well I don't know you a bet.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
No, No, Jason, I've literally seen a full Drake song
on TikTok that's better than Drake and it's Ai.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
No.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Now, let's have a discussion about no.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Better takes to the AI.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You but you know, oh wow, well the AI Alex
Tyscher would actually know something about sport.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's not fair. All the tiser's going. You know, I
remember back in.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Nineteen sixty seven when Hank Aaron hit his thirty fifth
home run of the season.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I better not do that?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well, he may is the greatest player of multiz.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Welly Bay's come on, Roger Marris better than Mickey Mantle.
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(25:48):
could see Fred van Vliet move that might be a
big deal with Kyle Lowry could get waved by the
heat they're considering.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You can't get a trade, sure, but we saw the show.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Mark Stein tweet out earlier today that the Suns tried
to trade DeAndre Ayton to the Mavericks during the NBA Draft.
It didn't happen, But it also doesn't mean that this
trade can happen. Apparently the big thing was it was
gonna be DeAndre Eaton for Tim Hardaway, Junior, Rashaun Holmes
and Javal McGhee. Sons were not interested in taking on
(26:21):
javal McGee because you know, he shocked in a fool,
and so the deal fell apart. Now it doesn't mean
they can't go back and redo this, because if they
were that close and JaVale McGee is the guy that
the Mavericks that no, I'm all right, fine, so that
can still get done. But all of this, what's going
on with the Suns this offseason? Right, they make the
trade for Kevin Durant during the season, right, that's gonna
(26:43):
put him over the top. It wasn't enough. They move
on from Chris Paul, they bring in Bradley beal right,
here's what they're doing. They're gonna try to move on
from DeAndre Ayton and try to bring in a couple
of more players and phil phil roster spots so it's
not just a couple of guys and a bunch of
guys making the minimum. The takeaway from all of this
and who this is all about really is It's all
(27:05):
about Devin Booker because he should be someone that we're
surrounding him with support players to try to win, but instead,
look what they have to do. We gotta go up
and over because Devin Booker is not that guy. We've
watched him now for the last couple of years. He's
not gonna be that one that puts the team on
his back. He's not gonna be honest or yo, ki
(27:27):
your someone who would Hey, we have to we have
to just find the right mix of guys around him,
the right number two, the right number, the right one a,
the right No, what have they done? We go, we
go get Kevin Durant, we go get Bradley Beal because
now Devin Booker, they've you've seen who Devin Booker is,
and I'm gonna tell you who Devin Booker is. You're
gonna go, wow, oh man, Now you understand why the
(27:47):
Sun's are doing what they're doing. Devin Booker is this
generation's Carmelo Anthony?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Really want to do that?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
The same thing that everybody thought about Devin Booker, they
all thought the same thing about Mellow, Right, Mello is
a great score. Right, guys going to the Hall of Fame.
Right's great scores with what number seven scorer all time?
Eight score all time. He's going to the Hall of Fame.
The guys, that's what he does. But he never led
a team anywhere. He was someone who I'm getting my
(28:18):
points and his teammates liked him. He was saying, you know,
you never heard about Oh I don't like Mellow. Mellow
is a bad guy. No, his teammates all like Mellow,
and he scored a lot of points, but he was
never a guy that, hey, I can put this team
on my back, and other teams saw that. It's why
he bounced around. It's why he went from Denver and
Oh Read the Knicks went all out of their way
to get him because now Mellow, now he realized Mellow
(28:40):
wasn't that guy either. Then he bounced around the league
a few more years, and now he finally retired from
the NBA. He was never the guy he was drafted
to be, and not that everybody thought Devin Booker was
going to be great, but suddenly, you know, the guy
scores seventy and he's someone who's one of the leading
scorers in the NBA. Okay, we're building around him, he's
our guy. You can't make somebody into a leader. You
can't make somebody into a one. And as teams found
(29:03):
that out about Mello all across his career, different teams
tried to build around him and said, oh, that doesn't work.
We got to get better players than Melo because it
doesn't work that way. You're seeing the suns. All these moves,
all these trades are about, Okay, how do we put
the best team on the floor, not surrounding Devin Booker,
but that Booker is a part of And maybe Kevin
(29:23):
Durant's the one and Booker is the one. A maybe
it's it's just him splitting it with two other guys
and he's a co one with a couple of other people,
or he's a two behind guys who are co ones.
But the sons are seeing Booker is this generation's Carmelo Anthony,
and so instead of building around him, it's going to
be we got to build a support and he's got
to be the guy that supports the guys we bring in.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Well, I don't know, sorry, a little bit of a
throat thing. Uh. Look, the Carmelo Anthony evaluation is interesting.
As a guy you watched him with the Knicks, and
you had hope till you didn't, but it wasn't. I mean, look,
Booker's still only twenty six, so maybe I hold out
(30:07):
a little hope. But you're also looking at an NBA
where everything's done in grand fashion. I mean, look at
Kevin Durant comes in, You got a new owner. What's
he want? He wants a shiny new toy. Now he's
not waiting forty five seconds for that flash fried buffalo.
Not no, no, I want it now. Most tavern could
not get it to him fast enough. So it's that
(30:29):
kind of thing, right, all right, Well, we have an
opportunity to go capture a title here and now Chris
Paul this that the other. So I think some of
it is the microwave effect of all of this that
you don't get to organically, even though we've seen a
couple of instances where it's kind of been that way.
But there's always something a little extra added in, a
little extra Kienne pepper and all of that to go
(30:49):
to your famous impersonation there. But for Devin book I
wouldn't rule him out altogether. But I just don't know
that the NBA.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Works that way, it's it's it works in any way
where we have a superstar and we need to get
somebody around him until it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I mean they've tried with Booker, They've tried so much,
and they're gonna keep trying. Guys, No, but now we're
going above him.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know, we got more superstars next, We got more
big stuff out of the NBA, more on this Booker story,
and something developing out of baseball we're gonna get to
as well.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
The way tire buying should be well. Frank the Tank
very happy to night.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The Mets won a game, so I think things should
be okay at least the next twenty four hours until.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Steve Cohen speaks and he talks.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Tomorrow and he's gonna tell everybody about this state of
the Mets. And I'm just I just got my fingers crossed, going,
what is what is going on?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
How does that make you feel? What does he do
with the fact that he's doing a speech.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
You know, here's the thing, and this is what drives
me crazy, right, this is this is this is the Mets.
So they win tonight, but obviously they're this big story
the last couple of days because the way they lost
the Phillies and the biggest mess. Uh that money can
buy the nearly four hundred million dollar pay roll, and
they stink. And that's become a bigger and bigger story
over the course of this year because now it looks
like the Mets really do stink. Like I told you
(01:30):
weeks ago, the Mets stunk, but now everybody's coming around
to it. Boy, now they really really stinking. Look at
all this money and ha ha ha. And now Steve
Cohen puts out a tweet today Mets owner saying, Hey,
I'm gonna talk tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
You'll get it straight from me. It's almost like I
feel like he's how how do I say this?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's like when you you your your son or daughter
is sleeping over somebody's house and there's a whole bunch
of kids around you, and you call over just to
see how things are going, and you call and talk
to you know the girls. Dad says, yeah, no, no,
you know what, I let me go check on them.
I'll call you back. Go, yeah, I just checked in.
They're all watching a movie, they're all gonna go to
(02:10):
sleeps and everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Okay, great.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I feel like that's who he is, Like, he's a listen,
I'll don't worry. I'll check on the kids, and then
I'll let you know that everything is fine, so everybody
can breathe a sigh of relief and enjoy the night,
you know, without the kids and whatever date night you're having,
or you're going to a movie or something else, you're
just hanging out and going to sleep early, relaxing.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Like that's what he is.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Like he's the adult making sure everything is okay and
all the kids are playing nice together. That's kind of
what I get from this, And I go, this is
not what we need.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This is not this is not this is not anything.
This is not anything.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is just Now it's gonna be even more embarrassing
that the owner's gotta have a hey, I can make sure.
I just want to let you know that everything is
fine and I've checked on everything. A press conference tomorrow,
which is gonna be embarrassing as hell. But yet the
Mets are gonna have it because you know, Mets, do
you really.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Call over on sleep overnight? Oh really that guy? No?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, not really, No, every no, everything is usually every no.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But I but like, that's what I'm getting.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, in the first couple of times, I would
call just to say good night, just to say, hey,
good night, you're good. Yeah, okay, great, we'll see you tomorrow,
and every you know, just like that. It's just that
calls the good night.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
But you didn't call it updated on the Mets score.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
You know, Hey, the Mets are losing. Okay, Dad, thanks,
I figured that was happening, all right, great. No, but
there's some there's some parents who like to you know,
like to call it, Hey, everything is okay, you know,
a little nervous their kids spending wide. No worry, I'm
gonna I'll make sure the kids are okay. That's kind
of what I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, you know what those parents are gonna lie to
you anyway, or your relatives. If you left it with
a relative, what are they gonna say it's all gone
to hell? Because then they look bad. I haven't about kid,
it's about it. And now they look bad because your
kid's unhappy being at their place. Wait, your kids here,
I haven't seen her really Awkwards, yes, really to find her?
(03:56):
You sure she's here? Zoe is here? All right? I
got all right?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, I guess it's fine. Great, Now I gotta
go find somebody else's hit all right, great, we just
showed them slender.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Man, I have you know, you gotta stop. You got
to the whole show. But you gotta stop. You brought
up slender Man last night. You gotta stop. You gotta
stop fringing that up.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Man. Oh here comes Jason.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You gotta stop, man, you gotta stop. But yes, the
state of the Union thing. Halfway through a season, you
spent a lot of money and you feel the need
to go do this. Just just hang out on Twitter
with your your fans. You know, you send them hot dogs.
(04:38):
You have a couple of those little guys, roll up
with their carts and feed everybody for a day and
just say it's gonna be okay. And if not, you
know what, the sun's gonna come up tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
You have another hot dog.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So I I'm not a helicopter parent.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Mess you just I'm standing outside with the boom box,
I can say anything. It's playing playing. I'm playing the
Door of the Explorer song for there's my Dad.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Do you see my dad? If you can see him,
yell Dad, yell at yell it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I say, y no, it's it's it's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
It's embarrassing. That's what I feel like. It's that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh, now the now the owner's got his Okay, I talk.
Don't worry, guys, I checked on everything. Everything is fine.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay, thanks. They tell me. Buck tells me he's got
everything under control. And then in the second half way
do you see how he manages the bullpen? Wait, he's
got ideas. Way do you see how we're able to
offload Sures or in Ferlander? It's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Fantastic, I'm Buck.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah. How are you gonna solve things? Steve Cohen? Well, basically,
I'm gonna eat all this money.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We're gonna trade away all these older guys and try
it again next year.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Any chance is there any chance that Showalter gets fired here? No? No, no,
no not or did they just say, hey, it's a
bunch of overpriced guys that are underperformance.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's not his fault.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
No, what they're gonna do is.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
As they fall out of contention, they're gonna try to
trade all the higher priced guys so they're not on
the books for next year, and they're gonna try to
move on and get whatever. You Look, they had to
eat a lot of money to trade Escobar, but they
got two pictures for him. Okay, so you're gonna see
stuff like that. They have to eat a lot of
money to trade and get rid of Verlander. But h
I you know that's gonna be their focus now. It's
(06:34):
I'm telling you the Mesa can be like Fileen's bargain basement. Man,
you're gonna walk in. Hey, we'll give these guys away.
You just pay their salary. But well, we don't want
to pay their or they will pay the salary. You
give us prospects. Okay, hey, but everybody's available.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
If you want a mint twenty twenty three pe Alonzo,
I can pair that up with a with a really
old twenty twenty three Max Sures or an Ay, we
can make a deal. Man, you make a deal. You
want a mint condition Francisco Dure for thirty million dollars
here the next year? Yeah, you don't even have to
give us a lot back, maybe like just one prospect,
just pay a salary so we can go make other
(07:08):
mistakes with big money and go do all that that
that's all you need to do.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I gotta be honest, though he's a bit weathered and
he's had a little bit of injury. He's near mint
at best. He's got a couple of bent corners. Maybe
a center is a little off at this point.
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Match Now from the Mets, We're gonna embarrass everybody. Tomorrow
We'll have a big left. I am ready to make
a match for a sports show that is looking for
a match. You ready, Yeah, let's go all right now,
as you all know, as you know, you know, Shannon
(07:57):
Sharp leaving undisputed a couple of weeks ago. Now it's
open for who's gonna wind up being in the chair
opposite Skip Bayless And when this happened. I told you
it's not gonna be one other person. It's gonna be
like a rotating group of a couple of people. That's
kind of how it's gonna be. It's skip show, It's
it's that's what is So it's not gonna be just
one person. Now, maybe they've been auditioning through the media
(08:21):
the last few weeks with a couple of hot takes
and see what's out there. But these guys are free
agents or people who could sign, because it's kind of
tough if someone has already contracted the ESPN or CBS
or somewhere else to get him out of a deal
to come over and do Undisputed. But how about this,
I'll just throw this out there. How about alternating days
(08:41):
on Undisputed Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Think about that for a second. They alternate days on
Undisputed Pippen and Rodman. What do you think? I think
it works. I mean a lot of hot take nonsense. Hey,
what did he say? He said something? I'm gonna come
back over the top and this has nothing to do
People were getting all over him over what he wore
to a Pride event. I mean and rally and and parade.
(09:11):
It like just literally, it's just one thing after another,
just lunacy. Larry Bird would be playing in Europe. What
are we doing?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, well, hey, come on, man, hot takes, hot takes,
hot takes, hot takes, hot takes.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, but I mean, even the guys that have a
lot of these jobs, the hot takes are just bad.
They're just dumb, just open mouths say things. I mean,
it's a little bit of cognitive ability here, you know,
should should be a requirement. And well, these guys are
just Hey, I got a flamethrower and I'm not really
gonna think what am I gonna do with it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I didn't know it was gonna.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Burn stuff down. But yes, I think that would be
entertaining because Skip Bayless covered them both. Yeah, certainly covered
Scottie Pippen quite a while when he was a columnist
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, Scotty especially I would love because he would just
blow tow everybody like that would be the best part.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
He would heed just doesn't care.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Rodman would be tough because okad, look I'll pull the
curtain back here for a little bit. When Fox Sports
Radio first started you ready for this, here here's me,
you know, twenty nine year old, brand new to radio.
I've never really done national radio before. But you know,
I get hired to do updates for Fox Sports Radio.
And this is in two thousand, you know two that
(10:24):
went when when Fox Sports Radio started. And we have
a big meeting like a month before we go on
the air, and all the talent is there, and the
GM is in a big room and he's talking about
what the lineup's gonna look like and everything else. We're
all sitting here. We're going through stuff with consultants and
all this. And he says, and I want to let
you all know we are negotiating with Dennis Rodman to
(10:46):
do a show every day, for us to do a
lunch lunch with Dennis Rodman. Everyone goes, oh, anybody have
any questions? And people aren't ask questions. And you know me,
just because I'm coming from this from I've produced television
for a long time and I've covered Dennis Rodman and
and I raise my hand, I go, are we sure
(11:07):
he's gonna do it? Like, how's he gonna be? He
sure he's gonna be able to do it every day
and do a show for an hour. I said, he's
got to travel, he's got a fly, He's gotta and
everybody looked at me like, what the hell is wrong
with you?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Man?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean here, I'm thinking of it from hey like
a practical standpoint of are really gonna get Rodman to
do a show every This is in the middle of
his playing days, right this he's playing with the bulls.
I'm like, is he gonna do a show for an
hour every day? You're Carl Malone when he was hanging
out with Vic the brick?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, Like, are you you're able to air this, you know,
an hour?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like because this is rich because the show at twelve
twelve o'clock comes, whether or not Dennis Rodman's doing a
show or not, whether or not he's taping a show
or not.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I go, are we sure he could do that?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And you know, because and here I am completely seeing
myself differently than everybody else in that room. Did they
see me as who the hell is this part time
update anchor? Saying that, you know is rock peckin Rodman?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
When I'm going dude, I've produced the highighest level and
there's no way in hell Dennis Rodman is going to
do this, Why are we even thinking about this?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So that's what I'm thinking, And the GM goes, well,
we actually have we're actually negotiating with him to be
able to have a unit to record a show with
when he goes on the road. And I go, okay,
all right, and I just go that's never gonna happen.
Here's a question, Mike, do you think that ever happened?
Do you think Dennis Robin never did a lunchtime show
for an hour at Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yes? Or no? What do you think? What do you
think I'm gonna go on a lamb and say no, no,
you are correct. The answer is no. That we've had
some powerhouses in that noontime, you know, midday slot, going
back a lot of years. I don't remember Dennis Robin
being no, no, because I've been here a minute at
this point.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, but look, but Scotty would be great because you
know we'd blow torch everybody and you have rotating people
and you have people on during football, seas everything else.
But right now, you know you can you could get
Robin to do like a day at mut What could
he do like a mammy? Can you count on him
for a day or two weeks. I'll you can get
Scotty for a couple of days, surely, and that'd be
some fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He'd bring that bourbon on the set with him and
just you know, be pouring drinks for everybody if you know, hey,
my hot take here is brought to you by whatever
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Speaker 3 (13:13):
No think, I think it works. And you would never
actually have to talk about basketball in twenty twenty three,
except for the comparisons to the all time greats. No,
that's gonna ask here's two guys that we're just gonna
put up on a board. It's instead of playing a
word associations like here's a picture, got it's where the
thousand words go.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
They would talk about Lebron and Jordan every day. Every
day would be a Lebron Jordan conversation, every single no
matter what happened the night before, Lebron Jordan, that's the conversation.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
And Larry Bird can't play.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Oh yeah, Larry Bird, Larry Bird is playing in Europe. Yes,
then they get Larry Bird on to defend himself. It
would be musty TV. No, that would happen as well.
But there you go, man, I tell you you got negotiation.
You got an audition through the media for it. Robin
and Pippen, Robin and Pippen, who knows?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
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Speaker 1 (14:08):
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Speaker 3 (14:11):
I hate that song.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
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Mike Harmon, Your White Sox are just getting worked by
one guy. Tonight show, Hey, Otani through five and a
third innings, seven strikeouts, two hits is shutting out the
White Sox two zip.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
He is also two for two with a home run.
You are losing to one person tonight, one person, one
person only. Sometimes you just pause and you channel your
inner Homer Simpson when he was battling the Carnies. We
were beaten by the best, but he didn't seem so
we were beaten by the best. No, look, Otani's just
(15:08):
that guy right number twenty seven, a four hundred eighteen
foot shot to right center and on the mound, just
getting it done. I loved after the home run. Everybody
wanted to high five him, and he did this little
motion like, leave me alone. I gotta get ready to pitch.
I gotta switch back into that other guy method acting
in three two. All right, I'm now Otani pitcher. Let's go.
(15:31):
So look at this point with the White Sox, I
have no expectations except for the fact that that division
stinks so bad. It takes one good run and all
of a sudden you're in the in business. Hey, first
team to seventy wins, the division could well maybe seventy two. Okay,
seventy two and a half. I don't know what the
over underwind totals are right now, you know. But here's
(15:54):
the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Not that this is a dark side fro to Oh
my god, people are gonna kill me for this.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
The dark side of not that this is I mean
that dark side of the ring. Is that specials that
they do on wrestling stories that went awry, So that
air for where you go.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Now, buddy, the dark side of the ring, not that
that there's a dark side for Otani, but obviously he's
gonna stay in Angel now up through the trade deadline,
we're getting to the end of getting to the end
of June. The Angels are in are right there for
a playoff chase, and and they're gonna want to keep him.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
They may making the.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Move to trade for Eduardo Escobar uh to fill in
wild surprise, surprise, Anthony rendonas Hurd again.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, and then they went and added Mustakas after beating
the the breaks off of the Rockies, yeaid twenty five
to one win. Oh and we want him to Yeah,
you're you're adding veterans to help you.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
This is not This does not portend to Hey, we're
not adding Escobar and Mustakas to trade Otani, right, So
Otani's gonna stay a Angel. So that so that's gonna
that's gonna wint where he winds up finishing the season.
Here's what I here's what I worry about, right, is
that because I know the Mets are gonna get.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
There because we're gonna we're gonna get rid of everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
For Otani, all the money he's going to get probably
a fifty million dollar year contract at least. And my
concern is it's weird to say this because, yeah, you
sign a guy hoping that he's going to give you
the numbers and the stats that he's been giving.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You for the last few years.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
But boy, I really would worry that just think of
the money that goes into this if Otani isn't this.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Guy all the time?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Right, like you know, because now he's been succeeding in Anaheim,
and it's been a great situation for him. He's kind
of been in a big market, but not really. He's
been able to get a lot of attention, but not really.
He's been able to any criticism, not a lot of criticism.
So it's almost like he's been in a great he's
been in a great situation. Now you change him and
(17:49):
you put him in a different spot. You put him
in a bigger city, you put him in New York
or someplace where it's a really really really big deal
where it's the only game in town. And you were
brought in and given all that money to be this
kind of guy. I'd be so afraid that that wouldn't
work out, that he wouldn't be this guy when he
changes locations, like if he goes to play in New York,
(18:11):
or he goes and plays in Miami wherever he wants
to go play, goes and plays in Seattle, whatever it is,
and you're into him for fifty million dollars a year
for the next ten years, and you're talking about five
hundred million dollars whatever it is, I really am, I
really am worried thinking about it from the other team's
perspectives that, boy, what if this is?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
This is just not who he's gonna be overall, because.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Other players you can say, well, if I give Bryce
Harper all this money, I know what I'm gonna get.
I know I'm gonna get thirty to forty home runs,
he's gonna knock in one hundred and twenty runs, he's
gonna hit two eighty two ninety, he's gonna be one
of our leaders. We're gonna get great stuff him for
the next ten years.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But here's Otani that is doing something that we've never
seen before. Can that travel? Can that travel? Can he
be continue to be this kind of picture and that
kind of hitter for the course of the next five
or seven years. That's what I'm afraid of. That is
this sustainable if he changes locations and and and and
because you're all of a sudden right now. Otani is
(19:09):
a great story. He's playing outside of the LA market. Yeah,
he's making good money, but he's not making the unbelievable
money he's going to make. There's been no criticism for
him because everything has been positive. But once you take
that money, you change, you go to where the pressure
is hotter. Is he still going to be the same guy?
That's what That's what worries me about Otani.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I think the big thing to pondering all this
and I hate to be that pragmatic business side put
that hat on. I'm less, I don't, so I'll do
it here. Uh. Part of what you're you're getting with
Otani is the mystique and the tourist attraction and and
and that is one of the reasons that I think
for Artie Morino outside of the Hey, I don't want
(19:46):
a bunch of people in the fish wraps to keep
writing bad about me that I traded this guy away.
I think that's one of the considerations. There's a lot
of revenue that still can be had for half a season,
not to mention all the promotional dates that haven't even
been announced yet. I mean, what else could we put
his head on before the season ends. But for teams
that are looking, whether it's the Dodger or the end, yeah,
(20:08):
you sell well and you print money. But you know what,
you can always print a little bit more. And with
Otani come into town. That's what you do. All of
the ancillary T shirt and giveaways and extra seats sold
with Dodger Stadium, and that's that's not a huge percentage
that you need to bounce up, but you can certainly
raise ticket prices right inelastic demand for most of those sections,
(20:33):
So raise it another twenty bucks or whatever. People are
gonna blink. You might lose one or two, but guess what,
there's like shark's teeth, take a bite, the next toots
coming cupping up to replace the other one. So I
think from a monetary perspective, you'll you'll get your your way.
Now when we talk about performance, now, the performance, the
(20:53):
pitching side of it is what you're always concerned with
with a guy who's already had, you know, one major
injury during his time in the major leagues, and that
at some point it starts to drift, just like we've
been talking about, Well, eventually, like with Freddie Freeman discussion yesterday, right, Well,
eventually he'll DH in that and whatever, and that becomes
a consideration. Say he became a Dodger. Now you got
(21:14):
those two guys battling for DH roles. Let's go. But
it's it's that kind of consideration as you go, He's
still a potent hitter and Anaheim's not exactly the easiest
place to mash, and he's done that with just him
and Trout and a bunch of banjo guys oftentimes during
his years there, because you can't say, hey, Rendon, you
(21:35):
know you had the projected stuff that you would have
played out on your your video games or in your
fantasy estimates without factoring in the big injury, missing missing time.
But for Otani, yeah, at this point, you're you're in,
and you just try to give yourself as many outs
(21:56):
because I gotta imagine whatever deal he's signing, there's gonna
be an out year or two in there as well.
Either for renegotiation or hey, I'm not happy here and
we need to end this player options will be popped
into that contract for sure. Twitter At how about a
Fresco Mike get swollen dome again? Just to what they'll
worry if. Is he changed? When he changes? Is he
(22:16):
still gonna be that guy?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, here's one hundred million dollars a year, O Todi,
you're gonna start every third day? Well, no, I could
play first base every day. No, no, no, no, no,
You're gonna pitch every third day. I'm sorry, that's how
it's gonna work.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Then we're going throwback? Now, how many? How many starts?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I remember when Mordecai three fingered Brown would pitch every
day for a week Smithers and he would go a
complete game at least four out of those five days.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Guys, while we're talking MLB, you want you want a
good one here?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
What's so good?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
The Padres lost again?
Speaker 3 (22:48):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But that's not even the story. They lose the story?
Speaker 3 (22:52):
What's the story? But wait, there's more.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
There is a lot more. Mashada one for four, Tatis
oh for five, Machado. The media tried to talk to
him after the game. Yeah, he declined to talk, saying
he didn't have the time.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Wow, well maybe he was going out to dinner and
they had an early reservation.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It was night out in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well they could be going to the Oh in Pittsburgh
to get those bike tailors switching out there anymore.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
She's moved on to Cincinnati, and he was going to
Brimani Brothers.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We're on to Cincinnati. I need a sandwich. We're moving
on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
No, you talk about a guy that, I mean, what
is going on in that clubhouse? I want to watch
it and laugh.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
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Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know, it's almost like we had our own perfect
game going tonight, Like I'm going we are now two
almost three hours into the show and maok, two full
hours into the show and tysherit hasn't played one Tears
for Fear song yet.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
It's like being it's like no hitting someone through five.
I'm like, boy, no, no, now it's over. You played
Tears for Fears?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Bad job by you? I played one so far.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
What did you play earlier?
Speaker 5 (24:04):
It was one of the deep cuts.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Oh deep cut? Okay, so spider Man. So it was
something that I just didn't respond to.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I mean, I guess all right, Well, listen, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
If you play a deep cut and I don't know it,
because you know, Tears are Fears only has a very
few songs that are good, that's okay because if I
don't know, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
So then I can get away with songs you don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, but then you get to put where people are going,
what the hell is going on with the music selection
on this show? And then you know you wind up
getting replaced by an Ai.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Alex Tischer can't be any worse than last night's music.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I mean, you are right though, I am probably the
most pinnacle part of the show.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I get you, Jay, Yeah, but you are you are.
AI can easily come in and do what you.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Do, oh without a doubt your job too soon?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, well I don't know you a bet.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
No, No, Jason, I've literally seen a full Drake song
on TikTok that's better than Drake and it's Ai.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
No.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Now, let's have a discussion about no.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Better takes to the AI.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You but you know, oh wow, well the AI Alex
Tyscher would actually know something about sport.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
That's not fair. All the tiser's going. You know, I
remember back in.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Nineteen sixty seven when Hank Aaron hit his thirty fifth
home run of the season.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I better not do that?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Well, he may is the greatest player of multiz.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Welly Bay's come on, Roger Marris better than Mickey Mantle.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
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(25:48):
could see Fred van Vliet move that might be a
big deal with Kyle Lowry could get waved by the
heat they're considering.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You can't get a trade, sure, but we saw the show.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Mark Stein tweet out earlier today that the Suns tried
to trade DeAndre Ayton to the Mavericks during the NBA Draft.
It didn't happen, But it also doesn't mean that this
trade can happen. Apparently the big thing was it was
gonna be DeAndre Eaton for Tim Hardaway, Junior, Rashaun Holmes
and Javal McGhee. Sons were not interested in taking on
(26:21):
javal McGee because you know, he shocked in a fool,
and so the deal fell apart. Now it doesn't mean
they can't go back and redo this, because if they
were that close and JaVale McGee is the guy that
the Mavericks that no, I'm all right, fine, so that
can still get done. But all of this, what's going
on with the Suns this offseason? Right, they make the
trade for Kevin Durant during the season, right, that's gonna
(26:43):
put him over the top. It wasn't enough. They move
on from Chris Paul, they bring in Bradley beal right,
here's what they're doing. They're gonna try to move on
from DeAndre Ayton and try to bring in a couple
of more players and phil phil roster spots so it's
not just a couple of guys and a bunch of
guys making the minimum. The takeaway from all of this
and who this is all about really is It's all
(27:05):
about Devin Booker because he should be someone that we're
surrounding him with support players to try to win, but instead,
look what they have to do. We gotta go up
and over because Devin Booker is not that guy. We've
watched him now for the last couple of years. He's
not gonna be that one that puts the team on
his back. He's not gonna be honest or yo, ki
(27:27):
your someone who would Hey, we have to we have
to just find the right mix of guys around him,
the right number two, the right number, the right one a,
the right No, what have they done? We go, we
go get Kevin Durant, we go get Bradley Beal because
now Devin Booker, they've you've seen who Devin Booker is,
and I'm gonna tell you who Devin Booker is. You're
gonna go, wow, oh man, Now you understand why the
(27:47):
Sun's are doing what they're doing. Devin Booker is this
generation's Carmelo Anthony?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Really want to do that?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
The same thing that everybody thought about Devin Booker, they
all thought the same thing about Mellow, Right, Mello is
a great score. Right, guys going to the Hall of Fame.
Right's great scores with what number seven scorer all time?
Eight score all time. He's going to the Hall of Fame.
The guys, that's what he does. But he never led
a team anywhere. He was someone who I'm getting my
(28:18):
points and his teammates liked him. He was saying, you know,
you never heard about Oh I don't like Mellow. Mellow
is a bad guy. No, his teammates all like Mellow,
and he scored a lot of points, but he was
never a guy that, hey, I can put this team
on my back, and other teams saw that. It's why
he bounced around. It's why he went from Denver and
Oh Read the Knicks went all out of their way
to get him because now Mellow, now he realized Mellow
(28:40):
wasn't that guy either. Then he bounced around the league
a few more years, and now he finally retired from
the NBA. He was never the guy he was drafted
to be, and not that everybody thought Devin Booker was
going to be great, but suddenly, you know, the guy
scores seventy and he's someone who's one of the leading
scorers in the NBA. Okay, we're building around him, he's
our guy. You can't make somebody into a leader. You
can't make somebody into a one. And as teams found
(29:03):
that out about Mello all across his career, different teams
tried to build around him and said, oh, that doesn't work.
We got to get better players than Melo because it
doesn't work that way. You're seeing the suns. All these moves,
all these trades are about, Okay, how do we put
the best team on the floor, not surrounding Devin Booker,
but that Booker is a part of And maybe Kevin
(29:23):
Durant's the one and Booker is the one. A maybe
it's it's just him splitting it with two other guys
and he's a co one with a couple of other people,
or he's a two behind guys who are co ones.
But the sons are seeing Booker is this generation's Carmelo Anthony,
and so instead of building around him, it's going to
be we got to build a support and he's got
to be the guy that supports the guys we bring in.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Well, I don't know, sorry, a little bit of a
throat thing. Uh. Look, the Carmelo Anthony evaluation is interesting.
As a guy you watched him with the Knicks, and
you had hope till you didn't, but it wasn't. I mean, look,
Booker's still only twenty six, so maybe I hold out
(30:07):
a little hope. But you're also looking at an NBA
where everything's done in grand fashion. I mean, look at
Kevin Durant comes in, You got a new owner. What's
he want? He wants a shiny new toy. Now he's
not waiting forty five seconds for that flash fried buffalo.
Not no, no, I want it now. Most tavern could
not get it to him fast enough. So it's that
(30:29):
kind of thing, right, all right, Well, we have an
opportunity to go capture a title here and now Chris
Paul this that the other. So I think some of
it is the microwave effect of all of this that
you don't get to organically, even though we've seen a
couple of instances where it's kind of been that way.
But there's always something a little extra added in, a
little extra Kienne pepper and all of that to go
(30:49):
to your famous impersonation there. But for Devin book I
wouldn't rule him out altogether. But I just don't know
that the NBA.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Works that way, it's it's it works in any way
where we have a superstar and we need to get
somebody around him until it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I mean they've tried with Booker, They've tried so much,
and they're gonna keep trying. Guys, No, but now we're
going above him.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know, we got more superstars next, We got more
big stuff out of the NBA, more on this Booker story,
and something developing out of baseball we're gonna get to
as well.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
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