September 10, 2024 • 36 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon break down the wild situation in Miami with Tyreek Hill and local police on Sunday morning. Jason tries to remain optimistic for the Jets after they open the season with a loss to the 49ers. Plus, is a hefty fine coming for the 49ers after Jordan Mason spills the beans?!
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith Show
with my bass friend Mike Harmon hobo live from the
tirag dot com studios. A couple minutes ago, in the
fourth quarter, Niners lead the Jets thirty two thirteen. Aaron
Rodgers out of the game. So Rod Taylor is in,
Braylan Allen is in, Byron Allen is in, Skip, Stevenson
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is in It's a Billionaire, and Byron Purcell is in. Wow.
Is that everybody from that? Yeah? Nicely done. So we'll
have more on this game coming up in a few minutes.
Niners are going to get the w week one. The
Jets are going to get the big L and yes,
I know, breathe, breathe count one. That's one. Brave Locks.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You got Tennessee. Next, you saw what they did against
the Bears. Then you got New England. They may run
over you as well. I mean Stevenson might might be
able to do some of that, that's true. But then
he got Denver and you got potentially three w's in
a row. You might be eating w's in no time, okay,
and Met's one Braves lost. So I think we're okay. No,
that's it, and that's the mantra for the rest of
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the night. Can't go to sleep, clowns, goetna eat me.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's one brain. Now. At the same time this game began,
huge headline comes out. The body cam footage of Tyree
Kill's arrest was made public yesterday a block outside the stadium.
You've seen the video. Now, Tyreek Kill has pulled over
for UH speeding and he was seen you see the
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video of him cuffed on the ground, video of him
on the sidewalk and a police officer comes over and
kind of kicks him to the ground, and we're wondering
what the hell happened. He was on the phone with
Drew Rosenhaus's agent the entire time, and Drew Rosenhouis is
giving a statements yesterday saying he's on it, he's on route,
he's on route to the game. He's going to play.
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And Tyreek Hill had a big game, even made fun
of his arrest after a after a big touchdown. He
had his hands behind his back, and we're all wondering, Okay,
let's see what the body cam footage shows, because this
certainly was a really bad optic where here's Tyreek Hill
on the ground in handcuffs and then hit by a
police officer for likely and you know what I thought
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the time, I'm going the officer asked him to sit down,
he wouldn't do it, or they asked him move, he
wouldn't do it. And that's why he came over and
kicked him, which is an awful optic. And now the
bodycam footage comes out, and you see that there was
a big escalation and it was an unnecessary escalation of
the entire process. Now there's a couple of things from this,
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because it's really really watching it. Even though I knew
how it was going to end and he was okay,
I was still on edge the entire time for a
couple of the things. And and and the first thing
I want to say is this, and this is true
everywhere for everybody, is that police officers are in a
life or death situation. Every time they walk into a
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domestic situation, when they pull somebody over, when they go
into a building, it is a life or death situation. Right.
I've known a lot of people whom police officers my
entire life, and we have to understand that that's where
their minds are there because if not, things could get
really bad. So they are always in a life or
death situation.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I grew up waiting to hear whether my door the
back door opened. Yeah, how long years? Thirty plus years
in Chicago. So it's a lot a lot of knights
of us laying there waiting, depending on what shift it
was that he got home.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's it's a very difficult. It's that's how police officers
go out on every shift. Everything they do they are
keyed up for because it is a life or death
situation and not just their lives, but their partners lives
or other people who are who are dealing with this scene.
It could seem very innocuous and then it can go
sideways really fast. So to that extent, when the police
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officer asks you to do something, do it. I've been
in that situation where please roll your window down, sir. Okay,
I don't like the way you're talking to me, but
I'll roll my window down because I know things could go.
Roll my window down or get out of the whatever
it is like, that's happened. I happened to me on
Staten Island a couple of times growing up. I'm like,
oh my god, these cops are just in our faces
because my friend was driving really fast or something was
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going on. So when the police will please tell you
to do something, you kind of have to do it.
You could see they were upset. The Tyreek Hill didn't
roll his window down, roll it down a tiny bit.
And it's like, dude, when the police tell you to
do something, do it right. You don't want to escalate
the situation. Now that being said, right, understanding those things,
there is no profession that commands and demands verbal respect
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more than police officers. In no other professional atmosphere, anybody
who deal on a daily basis, do you get spoken
to the way police officers speak to people who done
something wrong or they're involved in a situation that could
be very volatile and they they are keyed up right
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away right, Like you saw the one officer get to sir,
you roll your win when I tell you don't do it?
Blank blank blank. Okay, Now the situation has been really escalating, right.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Because he rolls the window back up, right, he takes
it down, then he takes it back up, and there's
whatever that time that elapses is, yeah, doesn't necessity. Once
the car door opens, we get to a point of
all right, what's going on in his mind? But we
have the body cam to show it. And the immediate
visceral reaction is, well, it didn't need to do this,
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But you understand where the emotions, where the mentality of
it is at least trying to maintain your authority of
the situation, right, because you need to be in control, right,
And does that go over board times?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah? I think you saw this was an escalation of that.
There is the respecting of a police officer and then
there is a police officer not escalating a situation. Because
that's clearly what happened is that in this in this
part Tyreek kill. All right, you have the situation under control, right,
it's one person in a car. Once you have determined
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the situation is contained, here's one person in a car
that's not somebody with a weapon that's doing something. Okay,
the law is on your side. And when he is
screaming at Tyreek Hill to get out of the car,
roll the window down, all of a sudden, does that
mean the situation gets gets gets de escalated. No, everybody's
keyed up. The other officers are all keyed up. Everybody's yeah,
and they pull him out of the car and they're
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yelling at him and yelling at him and yelling at him.
It's okay, do you really need to do that to
someone that has done something wrong that you are in
control of the situation of do you need to verbally
escalate when you have him on the ground in cuffs
and you're trying to figure out answers right that that's
to me when I look at that, and I go,
that's where a situation could have been taken care of
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a little bit better, because let's just say, Tyreek take
the situation of of of Tyreek kill sir, roll your
window down. He's not doing it. Is it a better
situation to say, Okay, do you want to add non
compliant to the police officer to this arrest? Roll your
window down? Is that better or is it better to
bang on the window and go you open this bleeping
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window right now? Or blankety blank? But how's that gonna
make the situation better? Again? Once you know a situation
is contained, and that situation, you had four police officers there,
they knew who it was. You have to know, Hey,
here's a police here's a here's a license plate register
to Tyreek Kill. They know it's Tyreek Hill in the car,
you get out, and and here's how the situation just
got really amped up, and and and just because of
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that that verbal part of it. The way I'm saying
is that that would really go a long way into
keeping situations below a boiling point because there you don't
need to confuse the leverage you have in need in
the situation with needing to yell and scream, because what
does that do? That just causes chaos? Right, the yelling
and the screaming does is not conducive to let let's
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keep the situation under control. Understand what it is. He's
gonna get a ticket for reckless driving. If he doesn't comply,
we're gonna give non compliance because he didn't roll the
window down, didn't get out of the cart whatever. We
can do all those things without yelling and screaming and
amping it up, because if that happens, maybe does the
officer go over and kick him to the ground. Maybe
does that happen? I mean, I get the tyree killer
is saying, Hey, I had knee surgery. I had knee surgery.
(08:33):
All right, Well, sir, you have five seconds to find
your way to the ground. Okay, you have five seconds
to find your way to the ground to sit. That's
what that's what you need to do now. Or and
instead of the guy, the one guy with his hand
on the bike going over and then kicking him right like,
I mean that that's a tell me how that's not
a better way to handle a situation. Again, that is
already in control. Oh again, you have him in handcuffs,
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he is on there. What else is he doing if
he's yelling at you? Okay? But I sometimes when when
people yell at you, when things like that are happening,
you gotta let that go. You're still the police officer
in control of the situation. People, yep, let people yet
you can, you can even give them more of it.
You want to keep yelling, You want another you want
another charge put against you, Like that's how it could go. Instead,
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it's just if you don't completely respect what I say,
you come back at me. That just escalates the situation.
And I'm not saying it's hey, it's always one person's fault,
it's always another person's fault. But it's that's that's where
I go, Wow, there is no way this thing was
was under a boiling point where it could have been
where a lot of it could have been avoided. Right
if they pull Tyreek Kill over, Tyree Kill rolls his
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window down, they want to have him out of the car.
They don't need to throw him on the ground. They
could still cuff him, sit on the on the there's
a way for it to do it where Okay, it
doesn't seem like something is out of control, but that Yeah,
but but the but the verbal part of this, of
this equation is what really escalated all of it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, but you know in terms of the once he's
out of the car and gets it gets physical from
that point, and then obviously the the extra after that.
It got escalated when the window rolls back up, because
you have no idea like just because he's Tyreek Hill
insert any other citizen there.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, you have no idea. You have no idea, what's
what's coming back? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Because he rolled it down, they haven't exchange he rolls
it back up. And again I'm not excusing any of
the extra like, but just that initial set and I
get it, and I and I know we talk about it,
and we have for many a year in terms of
the frequency with which people get pulled over when you're
talking about African Americans and incidences of this, and and
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certainly we've watched it from the moment it happened through
right now. You can load up any social media, any
news site, plenty of thought pieces and commentary on this.
It's an unfortunate, horrible situation. The Dolphins released a datement
a little bit early because you had multiple other players
that we were there, right, Campbell and others who were
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on the scene.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean, I knew how it ended, and I was
still nervous, Like I knew how it ended, Campbell.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But it's like you know the end, you know the
end game, but you want to see this is one
of those instances like all right, let me let me
see the footage from the front right, All right, I
saw the touchdown, how did the play develop kind of
thing to use the analogy back into football. Uh, And
here you know, it ramps up and you see how
agitated the officer gets immediately when that window went back
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up unnecessarily right and look for Tyreek Hill. All of
that was extra and unnecessary and they'll figure it out,
administrative leaves, firings, whatever comes out of it in the investigation.
I'm surprised the full body cam came out as quickly
as it did. I was waiting for the full body
camp to not be available yet immediately from the motorcycle
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rolling up right that, Like, I wasn't anticipating that we
would see either the full video or any video for
that matter. That because we had all of those the
people that were on site who became citizen journalists and
breaking it down and posting it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But just another horrible incident. And you know, for.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
All of us, whatever our professions, always the question of
de escalation and best best paths. And you know, to
the point you made it originally, like you have no
idea what you're walking into or what the situation. Doesn't
matter how fancy a car it is, doesn't matter the
bank account or the celebrity there inside. You know, if
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you've got to go into an active situation like that,
it's going to get amped up. And if you feel disrespected,
guess what, it's going to amp up again. And then
we see it from once that door opens where it
gets it definitely is over an extra and I don't
think there's any disputing that if you're a rational human being.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, look, if it look the the de escalation verbally
would help so many situations, right, it would help them.
But like I said, but that's you know, Hey, we
are gonna be we're in charge of this physically, and
we're in charge of this. What we say, you shut
up and you listen and you say yes sir. Like
that's something where hey, I don't know how. I don't
know how that goes anymore, right, And and that's a
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tough one. And evolving with the situation is something that Wow,
at some point after it's all after it's all set up,
you realize, Okay, we're the police officers. What do we
have here. We've pulled over Tyreek Hill who was speeding
in some way and didn't do what we wanted him
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to do. We got him out of the car, we
cuffed him, sitting here on the sidewalk. We have to
know that this situation now is different because there's people
walking by, sell phones are out, his teammates are stopping by.
This is Tyreek Hill. You know at some point this
is Tyreek kill. This is a wide receiver for the Dolphins,
and whatever happened before, you know that this is not
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gonna come out well for you when this goes out
on social media, because people are gonna see it and
before they get any explanation, everybody's gonna have rush to
your judgment of void. Look at this. Here's Tyreek Hill
on the ground and here's Tyreek Hill getting kicked by
a police officer. Before anything comes out, those are the
first two images. And you know, now, whatever you want
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to say, what happened where Tyreek Hill didn't listen to
you where you caught You're coming from a huge area
disadvantage because you didn't evolve with the situation of this
is not just some dude you pulled over and he
was mouthy and he yeah, okay, this is Tyreek Hill.
Let's understand where we're at. Understand or a block from
the Dolphins stadium, people are walking to the game. His
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teammates have pulled over. Let's be cool and let's do
the right thing and instead look at how where this
came from. The there's two images that everybody saw, top
to bottom, him on the ground and him getting kicked
to the ground by the people driving by with their phones.
So I mean, I I just think there there needs
to be I don't know that it's it's it's a
it's a training because everybody jumps to all these more
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training just be in situations. It's it's evolved with it
and and and get that. Maybe certain certain things that
you need to do in the very beginning of a
situation you can pull back from. Once it is, once
it is contained. Once is it, I don't have to worry.
There's nobody else in the car, there's nobody with a weapon,
there's no way. Okay, this is contained. Now, let let's
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let's let's let's do things. Let's deescalate and let's do
things a little. Let's take the temperature down and we
finish this the way the way we should. And if
if that happened more, then we'd have way less situations
like this. But that needs to be more of a
thinking way of Okay, when we show up, we not to.
We have to do things a little bit differently on
on both sides, right, because I said, look, cops need
to do it differently de escalation. When the cops ask
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you to do something, kind of have to do it.
You know, I know you don't want to, you don't
like that, But how is that going to make it
better if you are not going to listen to the
police officers like those things need to happen and that
and that's the worst part is that this was something
that could have been completely avoided. It could have been
completely avoided and and and that's the shame and this
is that now this has come up as a really
big thing when it could have been Hey, he got
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pulled over for speeding, but he's playing in the game. Okay,
that's your story. But instead it's this and now it's
full of fire and and and brimstone and all through
it in both sides. And it was completely avoidable, no,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And certainly the fact that we've got a full video
of it that's now been made available it answers a
lot of those questions, right because again, we we saw
the endgame of it through the initial passers by video.
We heard the accounts in the post game from Tyreek
Hill and Kalais Campbell, uh and and others, Drew rosenhaus
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and and everybody making their statements. But then you get
the video because you're trying to find out what went
from point A to B to get us from B
two C. And now we have that, it's like, well,
what did it justify?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Did it not?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Is it in Congress? And the answer is yes, right
like without it without a doubt. So again, all these
are horrible learning pieces for everybody in terms of civility,
uh de escalation processes, and the reminder that no matter
how many simulations you go through with anything, right, whatever
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training you do for your jobs out there, if you're
a first responder and you're working you know, as a
as a police officer or insecurity whatever, you know, we're
we're with you. You know, do your jobs and and
you know, just recognize the power that you have and
the responsibility that you take on with those roles, and
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for everybody else to recognize that, you know, you can
do your part to de escalate as well. And again
it's you know, and it's an unfortunate learning piece that'll
come out of this of you know, problems that still
are pervasive within these types of situations. And no matter
how many simulations you do in anything, any line of work,
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when the real thing comes, if it hasn't in a while,
it can get out of sorts really fast.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
We do all these trainings and whatever else for your job,
maybe you do. You all do them as well. If
all of a sudden there's a fire in the building,
is everybody going back to steps one through fifteen that
they learned very quick probably.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Not very very quietly walk to the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, I'm throwing a chair through a window, right, I'm
grabbing what I need you and I'm getting out right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's it's all of those kind of things. Exit. How
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get blown out. It's a final the score looks a
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lot closer than it was San Francisco thirty two to nineteen.
I still covered.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah's minus four and a half out or if you
bet at your day, I mean, look, you probably got
suckered in because McCaffrey was only worth a point or
a point and a half.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah. Yeah, And look, and we're gonna get to a
big controversy coming up in about twenty minutes too, whether
or not the Christian McCaffrey situation was on the up
and up. Boy, do we have the SoundBite from Jordan
Mason to take us there. So before we get to
the Niners, let's let let's talk about the Jets. Okay, Uh?
Where am I now? After seeing this at the point
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ten minutes before the game, I couldn't keep it thought
in my head. I'm yelling, let's effing go, let's go.
I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I think Tom Brady trademark that, so I think you
owe him seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And after this is gone, and we watched the Niners
win in a dominant fashion. They ran the ball all
over the Jets. They threw the ball when they wanted to.
I don't think brock Purdy had to make any throws
in tough, tight windows. Receivers were open. The Jets defense stiffened,
and they forced the Niners to kick six field goals
or this would have been really out of hand. But
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I'm okay. And not just because the Mets won and
the Braves lost. I mean I am okay because of that.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Well, I mean that does help you're you're you at
least bring you back to even Yeah, Mets one, and
then you'll get some chocolates.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, you'll be fine chocolate. But there's there's three things
that I sit back and go, Okay, you know what,
It's fine. It's not doom and gloom. It's not the
end of the world. Did I want to win tonight, Yes,
But here's three things. And this this is universal about
the Jets Week one playing out San Francisco. Who's supposed
to win this game? Forty nine ers, right, forty nine
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They've been in the Super Bowl last year, they're loaded,
most talented roster in the game. Yes, did not have
Christian McCaffrey for the beginning of the game, but this
is still a game the forty nine ers were supposed
to win.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But the overarching media story was that it was too
noisy this offseason. It was too noisy, so they were
not going to be prepared and together.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean Peyton Manning lost his mind.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
When you dropped that would be touchdown on the Manning cast,
which is making the rounds virally.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Saying hey, if you were in camp yet had some
time together, you would have caught that pass. He looked
like he wanted to throw a football through a through
a window. Now that's a no. I'll throw a football
over that mountain. Now that's a that's a that's a
different conversation, which we'll have that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But it was supposed to be too noisy. Great opportunity
for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This is still a team that is coming off a
Super Bowl again third year in a row, with probably
the most talented roster in the NFL. They're supposed to
win this game at home Monday Night Football, Week one.
So in the end, the Jets winning this game. If
the Jets it opened up on the road Monday Night
Football against the Titans and looked like this, they at
the Titans next week, I'd be concerned. They look like
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this against the Panthers Week one, I'd be really concerned.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, you want to talk about optimism and excitement.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Wown.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I mean that's Leo DiCaprio flamethrower to.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
H good God. But a week one they're supposed to
lose to the nut None is supposed to win this game,
and they did. This is an eye opening game for
a defense that talked all kinds of trash in the offseason.
The Jets always want to win the offseason. All we've
heard from the Jets how great this defense is, and
it is a great deal.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You know what would have been better if that guy
Reddick was around. I don't mean Vin Diesel and.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Maybe he and DJ the Chronicles of Reddick Willie Shaw.
I mean, maybe the Jets now find some extra cash
to give to side.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I was going to say, there's gonna be a little
restructuring of dollars that they.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Look like was getting to the quarterback. The problem tonight, No,
wasn't the problem. It was toughness in the defensive interior
and getting run over. This is not how the Jets
play defensively. This is not a team that gets running
lanes opened up on them regularly like they did tonight
with Jordan Mason running the football. Anybody Jordan Mace had
a big night. Anybody would have run through those holes.
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He had his choice of lent. Do I want to
go lane one? It's like me at the supermarket. Well,
lane one looks like it's open. I could get up
lane two as someone behind Lane three is open. Lane
four is open. So single guy four items no chick check,
I get back there. They were just blowing the Jets
off the line. Michael Clemens had a horrendous game. They aired.
They aimed so much of their running game at him.
(24:40):
When they threw the football, guys were open right. There
was no tight coverage, there was no Rock Purty had
to get the ball in on this. There were players
who were just how is no one covering George Kittle right?
How is deebo that way? How is Jennings opened by
five yards right? And there was weird things happening. Sauce
Gardner was out for a big series for so reason.
We don't know why. This is an attention grabbing moment
(25:04):
for the Jets, where Okay, you know what, maybe we're
believing our hype a little bit too much and look
at what happened to us against a good team.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, sometimes you need to get punched in the mouth, right, right,
and this is there's no better team to do it
than one that loves to run, right. We've got very
few of those in the National Football League. Looks like
all our presupposition and theory testing of the Harbaugh led Chargers, Yeah,
they're gonna do They're gonna try to punch in the
(25:31):
mouth and run the ball. Okay, fine, Baltimore to a degree,
still gonna do that in theory more with dry Henry,
but there's very few teams in this case. You knew
what the forty nine Ers were going to bring at
you and it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Now this gets your attention. Okay, we were not ready
for this game. We're not ready for what they had.
We did a little too much talking. So I firmly
believe this is this is one of those Hey, you're
gonna see a different Jets defense next week in the
week after. But you also playing a team that was
the co favorite for the Super Bowl. You're playing the
forty nine Ers at home on a Monday night. They're
supposed to win the game.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean it was again only a field goal spread
only four and a half all off season, so you
know the expectation was that the Jets were going to
come in and give a better effort, Like that's the
thing I'd be concerned about, just the fact that he
got run off the board. But again, you're playing a
great team. Now it's Tennessee, followed by New England one
(26:24):
and on New England, and then you've got Denver in theory,
in theory, you've got a three game winning streak. It
should be but again Robert Sala and then you'll face
Sam Darnold in week five. And the third part of
it is this not that he made it past Snap five,
the Snap four disaster, which was an Allen Lazard drop.
(26:44):
But Aaron Rodgers as the game went on, you could
tell it looked a little more comfortable. I saw his
body language at the end of the game, after the
game was over. It was laughing at midfield. I'm sure
for him, all the tough talking that he did. Making
it through this game still showing he could throw the
football because he led a couple of nice drives, didn't
look like Aaron Rodgers was suddenly as washed did make
(27:06):
some big throws, was able to get the ball to
Garrett Wilson a few times. So this was a big
positive for him in that Okay, I feel good going
forward that, Hey, he got the first game under him,
He walked off the field. It was the Niners who
have a hillacious defense. He only got sacked once. He
still showed some escapability getting outside the pocket, being able
(27:26):
to throw the ball away. You know, a lot of
that is in your mind till you play your first game.
And so from that perspective, and the Jets did move
the ball a little bit, I feel good about that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Now. The bad stuff is, I don't feel they were
ready for week one, but this happened. And going forward,
are all of these things either correctible or something that
you were building off of. And the check mark goes
to all of those right away from week one against
the Niners. Okay, great, right now you expect the Niners
be better than the Jets. Got it? Will the defense
played better? Now that yes, check got it? Is Aaron
(27:57):
Rodgers better place for him mentally going through a game
playing with his teammates. Remember sitting out all preseason, not
playing any game situations. Yes, he played in the joint practices,
but it's a different thing to tee it up for real,
especially when you know he had everything going into last
year and then four snaps and he's done. So there's
that mental hurdle for him as well, and I think
you're gonna see him starting to play more Aaron Rodgers
(28:19):
type football than we expected. So I feel good all
the way through. Okay, they lost. I was a mad
while it's going on, a mad scene. Lane's getting blown
wide open in the Jets, and well, what are they doing?
What is happening? I'll break what are you calling defensively?
But then the game ends and I realize, Okay, in
the end, it would have been a bonus to win.
(28:40):
This is stuff that's correctable. Aaron Rodgers looks good. I
didn't feel like boy no arm strength or he's shying
away from both. No, he made some good throws. He
looked like he could throw the ball deep. The touchdown
passed the lizard where you could tell I got a
free play with a jumping off sides. I know I
might get hit, but I'm delivering that football and we
scored a touchdown. I feel fine about the Jets going
forward now if they if they don't get out of
(29:02):
this next couple of weeks three one, that's a different store.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
For for this week, you take what it is and
we will look at the slate all the across the border,
men highs and lows and and everybody losing their minds.
I did myself a favor and I dialed up the
hometown radio station for a bit and sampled some bear's
talk coming out of the wind over Tennessee. And you
would have thought they lost forty eight to nothing. Uh,
(29:30):
listening to callers and to some of their hosts all night,
it's like you got a w right, you can you
can only get better now. Roma Dunsday being out for
indefinitely with a knee injury after hopping off the field
not something you want to see in your in your breakdown.
But the reality is everybody's got vast room for improvement.
Like this is not the high water bark for anybody
(29:52):
in the Nash And if it is, you got problems right,
Like you know in terms of health, you know we're
gonna have to watch because you had a lot of
big injur here how quickly guys can get back on
the field. And if they do, you know, we're talking
percentages and trying to force yourself back into action because
you consider yourself a contender, et cetera. But for the
Jets in Week one, I'd be moderately concerned that you
(30:14):
got run over, but Trent Williams was there playing a
lot of snaps and you expected them to be able
to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
If this happened in week fifteen, I would be concerned that, Wow,
we're not playing our best football against really good team.
As you're coming down the stretch, this is where it's
supposed to be. But that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
It's like the learning curve and getting acclimated once again
into the field. I think Alan Lazar is a guy
Fantasy owners are gonna have to desire how much of
their fab budget they're putting there because he's your number two.
Whether you like it or not. Mike Williams could be
on the field, he may be running sprints. Aaron Rodgers
likes throwing the ball to Alan Lazard, and that was
(30:49):
the thing to me, that the fact that he had
the arm action to get it out to the edges right,
that there was no question about that at all, and
that free play. I still wonder why that wasn't whistled
dead base done where the defensive end was in the
defensive bag, because I think it was Floyd that was
looking to come get him again. So you got that
for you too. But the linebacker just freezes and letslizard
(31:12):
run past him. It all counts just the same. It's
a touchdown. Thirty two to nineteen. The forty three over
under gets bypassed as we got into the fourth.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
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Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. So the forty nine Ers win over the
Jets thirty two nineteen. You think the Niners have no problems, Well,
wait a minute, maybe the NFL will award the Jets
another fifteen points after what we're gonna tell you penalties.
Big story tonight, obviously. In warm ups, Christian McCaffrey ruled
(31:52):
out for the forty nine Ers. Jordan Mason took over,
had a big game, huge end, ride him to victory. Yeah,
thirty two nineteen. The one thousand and eighty fifth score,
agami real thirty nineteen. It's never been had, so now
we checked the box. He go on, but I'm pretty
(32:14):
sure the Niners are gonna wind up a little bit
light in the pocketbook, because I don't know that they
were super transparent with the NFL. Because Christian McCaffrey was
going to play, everything was fine, Shanahan said, so on
Fir Shanahan said he was set to start. However, Jordan
Mason was asked after the game today when he knew
(32:35):
he was going to start, And this is what Jordan
Mason said, Why.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did you find out? Was not found out? Maybe Faddy
Baddy Knight? You don't call that? No?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Wait waita wait? What wait what?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Wait wait a minute, Wait a minute. Wait Friday night,
So he's known for a couple of days he was
going to start. Now, what's Kyle Shanahan going to say
about that? No, no, wait a minute. I think someone's misremembering.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Jordan said after the game he was told on Friday
night and he was gonna start.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
When did Christian start?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
With the feeling a ry?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I never told Jordan he's gonna start. Told me he
had to be ready a bunch. But I might have
been Bobby or somebody trying to pump him up, but
I knew he was gonna have to play a lot
and told him that he was gonna have to was
gonna be like usual, he's gonna be a number two
back that was splitting a lot of the time. But
now he didn't know he for sure was doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Till the day. Yeah, uh huh, Yeah, I believe that.
I believe that matters. Like I said, anybody would have
run through the jetstal. But you prepared for McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You prepared for his skill set, and you got Jordan
Mason instead.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I prepared for the best running back in the game,
and I got someone not nearly as good. And I'm
upset about that. That is right. We weren't prepared. We
let our foot off the gas, and look what happened.
The question was when did you know you were gonna start?
Maybe Friday? So yeah, do I do? I think now
after this, suddenly Christian McCaffrey's ruled out. No, I'm sure
(34:04):
there's gonna be some kind of fine. This is not
how the NFL want is not anybody want, not how
any fantasy owners want it. Oh come on, man, I
can't pick up Jordan Mason. Somebody's already got him. I
gotta pick up Isaac Correndo. He's gonna give you a zero.
That's what I happened.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Zero Yeah, No, it's the tough process that because the
NFL has to do something on this, or at least
make the cursory phone call. And maybe Shanahan's telling the
absolute truth. I don't buy it, but maybe he is. Yeah,
here's where we would go on law and order and
I gotta see the luds. I gotta see the We
gotta dump all the phones and all the communication, find
(34:40):
out where he goes. Was there anybody present when they
had their conversation or did he go back? Is you
know a few good men? Where's anybody else in the room?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Okay, so you got that too. But it's it's that. Look,
we we talked about it last week. The estimate is
thirty five billion dollars being that legally on this sport.
When we talk about from from the different proprietors, different providers,
different league partners at this point that this is not
(35:15):
in the spirit or the letter of what you've been saying.
Was an important piece of communication all these years, because remember,
once upon a time when the injury report was out,
what did you say? It was for the gamblers period.
Now the other team prepares for your best.
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said we were gonna get the best running back, you
gave us a guy not as good, and you beat
us bad. Ah. I'm just gonna go over here. I
don't know what else to say. Sorry. Coming up next,
we have the big takeaway from this game. Forty nine
(36:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, Welcome in Side hour two The Jason Smith Show
with my bass friend Mike Harmon hobo live from the
tirag dot com studios. A couple minutes ago, in the
fourth quarter, Niners lead the Jets thirty two thirteen. Aaron
Rodgers out of the game. So Rod Taylor is in,
Braylan Allen is in, Byron Allen is in, Skip, Stevenson
(00:48):
is in It's a Billionaire, and Byron Purcell is in. Wow.
Is that everybody from that? Yeah? Nicely done. So we'll
have more on this game coming up in a few minutes.
Niners are going to get the w week one. The
Jets are going to get the big L and yes,
I know, breathe, breathe count one. That's one. Brave Locks.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You got Tennessee. Next, you saw what they did against
the Bears. Then you got New England. They may run
over you as well. I mean Stevenson might might be
able to do some of that, that's true. But then
he got Denver and you got potentially three w's in
a row. You might be eating w's in no time, okay,
and Met's one Braves lost. So I think we're okay. No,
that's it, and that's the mantra for the rest of
(01:27):
the night. Can't go to sleep, clowns, goetna eat me.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's one brain. Now. At the same time this game began,
huge headline comes out. The body cam footage of Tyree
Kill's arrest was made public yesterday a block outside the stadium.
You've seen the video. Now, Tyreek Kill has pulled over
for UH speeding and he was seen you see the
(01:53):
video of him cuffed on the ground, video of him
on the sidewalk and a police officer comes over and
kind of kicks him to the ground, and we're wondering
what the hell happened. He was on the phone with
Drew Rosenhaus's agent the entire time, and Drew Rosenhouis is
giving a statements yesterday saying he's on it, he's on route,
he's on route to the game. He's going to play.
(02:14):
And Tyreek Hill had a big game, even made fun
of his arrest after a after a big touchdown. He
had his hands behind his back, and we're all wondering, Okay,
let's see what the body cam footage shows, because this
certainly was a really bad optic where here's Tyreek Hill
on the ground in handcuffs and then hit by a
police officer for likely and you know what I thought
(02:35):
the time, I'm going the officer asked him to sit down,
he wouldn't do it, or they asked him move, he
wouldn't do it. And that's why he came over and
kicked him, which is an awful optic. And now the
bodycam footage comes out, and you see that there was
a big escalation and it was an unnecessary escalation of
the entire process. Now there's a couple of things from this,
(02:56):
because it's really really watching it. Even though I knew
how it was going to end and he was okay,
I was still on edge the entire time for a
couple of the things. And and and the first thing
I want to say is this, and this is true
everywhere for everybody, is that police officers are in a
life or death situation. Every time they walk into a
(03:18):
domestic situation, when they pull somebody over, when they go
into a building, it is a life or death situation. Right.
I've known a lot of people whom police officers my
entire life, and we have to understand that that's where
their minds are there because if not, things could get
really bad. So they are always in a life or
death situation.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I grew up waiting to hear whether my door the
back door opened. Yeah, how long years? Thirty plus years
in Chicago. So it's a lot a lot of knights
of us laying there waiting, depending on what shift it
was that he got home.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's it's a very difficult. It's that's how police officers
go out on every shift. Everything they do they are
keyed up for because it is a life or death
situation and not just their lives, but their partners lives
or other people who are who are dealing with this scene.
It could seem very innocuous and then it can go
sideways really fast. So to that extent, when the police
(04:08):
officer asks you to do something, do it. I've been
in that situation where please roll your window down, sir. Okay,
I don't like the way you're talking to me, but
I'll roll my window down because I know things could go.
Roll my window down or get out of the whatever
it is like, that's happened. I happened to me on
Staten Island a couple of times growing up. I'm like,
oh my god, these cops are just in our faces
because my friend was driving really fast or something was
(04:30):
going on. So when the police will please tell you
to do something, you kind of have to do it.
You could see they were upset. The Tyreek Hill didn't
roll his window down, roll it down a tiny bit.
And it's like, dude, when the police tell you to
do something, do it right. You don't want to escalate
the situation. Now that being said, right, understanding those things,
there is no profession that commands and demands verbal respect
(04:55):
more than police officers. In no other professional atmosphere, anybody
who deal on a daily basis, do you get spoken
to the way police officers speak to people who done
something wrong or they're involved in a situation that could
be very volatile and they they are keyed up right
(05:16):
away right, Like you saw the one officer get to sir,
you roll your win when I tell you don't do it?
Blank blank blank. Okay, Now the situation has been really escalating, right.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Because he rolls the window back up, right, he takes
it down, then he takes it back up, and there's
whatever that time that elapses is, yeah, doesn't necessity. Once
the car door opens, we get to a point of
all right, what's going on in his mind? But we
have the body cam to show it. And the immediate
visceral reaction is, well, it didn't need to do this,
(05:45):
But you understand where the emotions, where the mentality of
it is at least trying to maintain your authority of
the situation, right, because you need to be in control, right,
And does that go over board times?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah? I think you saw this was an escalation of that.
There is the respecting of a police officer and then
there is a police officer not escalating a situation. Because
that's clearly what happened is that in this in this
part Tyreek kill. All right, you have the situation under control, right,
it's one person in a car. Once you have determined
(06:21):
the situation is contained, here's one person in a car
that's not somebody with a weapon that's doing something. Okay,
the law is on your side. And when he is
screaming at Tyreek Hill to get out of the car,
roll the window down, all of a sudden, does that
mean the situation gets gets gets de escalated. No, everybody's
keyed up. The other officers are all keyed up. Everybody's yeah,
and they pull him out of the car and they're
(06:43):
yelling at him and yelling at him and yelling at him.
It's okay, do you really need to do that to
someone that has done something wrong that you are in
control of the situation of do you need to verbally
escalate when you have him on the ground in cuffs
and you're trying to figure out answers right that that's
to me when I look at that, and I go,
that's where a situation could have been taken care of
(07:06):
a little bit better, because let's just say, Tyreek take
the situation of of of Tyreek kill sir, roll your
window down. He's not doing it. Is it a better
situation to say, Okay, do you want to add non
compliant to the police officer to this arrest? Roll your
window down? Is that better or is it better to
bang on the window and go you open this bleeping
(07:27):
window right now? Or blankety blank? But how's that gonna
make the situation better? Again? Once you know a situation
is contained, and that situation, you had four police officers there,
they knew who it was. You have to know, Hey,
here's a police here's a here's a license plate register
to Tyreek Kill. They know it's Tyreek Hill in the car,
you get out, and and here's how the situation just
got really amped up, and and and just because of
(07:49):
that that verbal part of it. The way I'm saying
is that that would really go a long way into
keeping situations below a boiling point because there you don't
need to confuse the leverage you have in need in
the situation with needing to yell and scream, because what
does that do? That just causes chaos? Right, the yelling
and the screaming does is not conducive to let let's
(08:11):
keep the situation under control. Understand what it is. He's
gonna get a ticket for reckless driving. If he doesn't comply,
we're gonna give non compliance because he didn't roll the
window down, didn't get out of the cart whatever. We
can do all those things without yelling and screaming and
amping it up, because if that happens, maybe does the
officer go over and kick him to the ground. Maybe
does that happen? I mean, I get the tyree killer
is saying, Hey, I had knee surgery. I had knee surgery.
(08:33):
All right, Well, sir, you have five seconds to find
your way to the ground. Okay, you have five seconds
to find your way to the ground to sit. That's
what that's what you need to do now. Or and
instead of the guy, the one guy with his hand
on the bike going over and then kicking him right like,
I mean that that's a tell me how that's not
a better way to handle a situation. Again, that is
already in control. Oh again, you have him in handcuffs,
(08:54):
he is on there. What else is he doing if
he's yelling at you? Okay? But I sometimes when when
people yell at you, when things like that are happening,
you gotta let that go. You're still the police officer
in control of the situation. People, yep, let people yet
you can, you can even give them more of it.
You want to keep yelling, You want another you want
another charge put against you, Like that's how it could go. Instead,
(09:16):
it's just if you don't completely respect what I say,
you come back at me. That just escalates the situation.
And I'm not saying it's hey, it's always one person's fault,
it's always another person's fault. But it's that's that's where
I go, Wow, there is no way this thing was
was under a boiling point where it could have been
where a lot of it could have been avoided. Right
if they pull Tyreek Kill over, Tyree Kill rolls his
(09:37):
window down, they want to have him out of the car.
They don't need to throw him on the ground. They
could still cuff him, sit on the on the there's
a way for it to do it where Okay, it
doesn't seem like something is out of control, but that Yeah,
but but the but the verbal part of this, of
this equation is what really escalated all of it.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, but you know in terms of the once he's
out of the car and gets it gets physical from
that point, and then obviously the the extra after that.
It got escalated when the window rolls back up, because
you have no idea like just because he's Tyreek Hill
insert any other citizen there.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, you have no idea. You have no idea, what's
what's coming back? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Because he rolled it down, they haven't exchange he rolls
it back up. And again I'm not excusing any of
the extra like, but just that initial set and I
get it, and I and I know we talk about it,
and we have for many a year in terms of
the frequency with which people get pulled over when you're
talking about African Americans and incidences of this, and and
(10:44):
certainly we've watched it from the moment it happened through
right now. You can load up any social media, any
news site, plenty of thought pieces and commentary on this.
It's an unfortunate, horrible situation. The Dolphins released a datement
a little bit early because you had multiple other players
that we were there, right, Campbell and others who were
(11:06):
on the scene.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean, I knew how it ended, and I was
still nervous, Like I knew how it ended, Campbell.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But it's like you know the end, you know the
end game, but you want to see this is one
of those instances like all right, let me let me
see the footage from the front right, All right, I
saw the touchdown, how did the play develop kind of
thing to use the analogy back into football. Uh, And
here you know, it ramps up and you see how
agitated the officer gets immediately when that window went back
(11:34):
up unnecessarily right and look for Tyreek Hill. All of
that was extra and unnecessary and they'll figure it out,
administrative leaves, firings, whatever comes out of it in the investigation.
I'm surprised the full body cam came out as quickly
as it did. I was waiting for the full body
camp to not be available yet immediately from the motorcycle
(11:58):
rolling up right that, Like, I wasn't anticipating that we
would see either the full video or any video for
that matter. That because we had all of those the
people that were on site who became citizen journalists and
breaking it down and posting it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But just another horrible incident. And you know, for.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
All of us, whatever our professions, always the question of
de escalation and best best paths. And you know, to
the point you made it originally, like you have no
idea what you're walking into or what the situation. Doesn't
matter how fancy a car it is, doesn't matter the
bank account or the celebrity there inside. You know, if
(12:46):
you've got to go into an active situation like that,
it's going to get amped up. And if you feel disrespected,
guess what, it's going to amp up again. And then
we see it from once that door opens where it
gets it definitely is over an extra and I don't
think there's any disputing that if you're a rational human being.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, look, if it look the the de escalation verbally
would help so many situations, right, it would help them.
But like I said, but that's you know, Hey, we
are gonna be we're in charge of this physically, and
we're in charge of this. What we say, you shut
up and you listen and you say yes sir. Like
that's something where hey, I don't know how. I don't
know how that goes anymore, right, And and that's a
(13:26):
tough one. And evolving with the situation is something that Wow,
at some point after it's all after it's all set up,
you realize, Okay, we're the police officers. What do we
have here. We've pulled over Tyreek Hill who was speeding
in some way and didn't do what we wanted him
(13:47):
to do. We got him out of the car, we
cuffed him, sitting here on the sidewalk. We have to
know that this situation now is different because there's people
walking by, sell phones are out, his teammates are stopping by.
This is Tyreek Hill. You know at some point this
is Tyreek kill. This is a wide receiver for the Dolphins,
and whatever happened before, you know that this is not
(14:11):
gonna come out well for you when this goes out
on social media, because people are gonna see it and
before they get any explanation, everybody's gonna have rush to
your judgment of void. Look at this. Here's Tyreek Hill
on the ground and here's Tyreek Hill getting kicked by
a police officer. Before anything comes out, those are the
first two images. And you know, now, whatever you want
(14:31):
to say, what happened where Tyreek Hill didn't listen to
you where you caught You're coming from a huge area
disadvantage because you didn't evolve with the situation of this
is not just some dude you pulled over and he
was mouthy and he yeah, okay, this is Tyreek Hill.
Let's understand where we're at. Understand or a block from
the Dolphins stadium, people are walking to the game. His
(14:53):
teammates have pulled over. Let's be cool and let's do
the right thing and instead look at how where this
came from. The there's two images that everybody saw, top
to bottom, him on the ground and him getting kicked
to the ground by the people driving by with their phones.
So I mean, I I just think there there needs
to be I don't know that it's it's it's a
it's a training because everybody jumps to all these more
(15:14):
training just be in situations. It's it's evolved with it
and and and get that. Maybe certain certain things that
you need to do in the very beginning of a
situation you can pull back from. Once it is, once
it is contained. Once is it, I don't have to worry.
There's nobody else in the car, there's nobody with a weapon,
there's no way. Okay, this is contained. Now, let let's
(15:36):
let's let's let's do things. Let's deescalate and let's do
things a little. Let's take the temperature down and we
finish this the way the way we should. And if
if that happened more, then we'd have way less situations
like this. But that needs to be more of a
thinking way of Okay, when we show up, we not to.
We have to do things a little bit differently on
on both sides, right, because I said, look, cops need
to do it differently de escalation. When the cops ask
(15:58):
you to do something, kind of have to do it.
You know, I know you don't want to, you don't
like that, But how is that going to make it
better if you are not going to listen to the
police officers like those things need to happen and that
and that's the worst part is that this was something
that could have been completely avoided. It could have been
completely avoided and and and that's the shame and this
is that now this has come up as a really
big thing when it could have been Hey, he got
(16:21):
pulled over for speeding, but he's playing in the game. Okay,
that's your story. But instead it's this and now it's
full of fire and and and brimstone and all through
it in both sides. And it was completely avoidable, no,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And certainly the fact that we've got a full video
of it that's now been made available it answers a
lot of those questions, right because again, we we saw
the endgame of it through the initial passers by video.
We heard the accounts in the post game from Tyreek
Hill and Kalais Campbell, uh and and others, Drew rosenhaus
(16:55):
and and everybody making their statements. But then you get
the video because you're trying to find out what went
from point A to B to get us from B
two C. And now we have that, it's like, well,
what did it justify?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Did it not?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Is it in Congress? And the answer is yes, right
like without it without a doubt. So again, all these
are horrible learning pieces for everybody in terms of civility,
uh de escalation processes, and the reminder that no matter
how many simulations you go through with anything, right, whatever
(17:31):
training you do for your jobs out there, if you're
a first responder and you're working you know, as a
as a police officer or insecurity whatever, you know, we're
we're with you. You know, do your jobs and and
you know, just recognize the power that you have and
the responsibility that you take on with those roles, and
(17:53):
for everybody else to recognize that, you know, you can
do your part to de escalate as well. And again
it's you know, and it's an unfortunate learning piece that'll
come out of this of you know, problems that still
are pervasive within these types of situations. And no matter
how many simulations you do in anything, any line of work,
(18:15):
when the real thing comes, if it hasn't in a while,
it can get out of sorts really fast.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
We do all these trainings and whatever else for your job,
maybe you do. You all do them as well. If
all of a sudden there's a fire in the building,
is everybody going back to steps one through fifteen that
they learned very quick probably.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Not very very quietly walk to the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, I'm throwing a chair through a window, right, I'm
grabbing what I need you and I'm getting out right.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's it's all of those kind of things. Exit. How
about a Fresca exit Swallen Dome. The Jason Smith Show
with Mike carbon lifromthetirec dot Com Studios. We'll have more
in this developing situation coming up throughout the show, but
straight ahead, Monday Night football is in the books, thankfully
for the Jets. The biggest takeaways from the Niners route
over New York is no here Jason and Mike Fox
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dot com. So the game is over. Yeah, the Jets
get blown out. It's a final the score looks a
(20:18):
lot closer than it was San Francisco thirty two to nineteen.
I still covered.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah's minus four and a half out or if you
bet at your day, I mean, look, you probably got
suckered in because McCaffrey was only worth a point or
a point and a half.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah. Yeah, And look, and we're gonna get to a
big controversy coming up in about twenty minutes too, whether
or not the Christian McCaffrey situation was on the up
and up. Boy, do we have the SoundBite from Jordan
Mason to take us there. So before we get to
the Niners, let's let let's talk about the Jets. Okay, Uh?
Where am I now? After seeing this at the point
(20:58):
ten minutes before the game, I couldn't keep it thought
in my head. I'm yelling, let's effing go, let's go.
I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I think Tom Brady trademark that, so I think you
owe him seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And after this is gone, and we watched the Niners
win in a dominant fashion. They ran the ball all
over the Jets. They threw the ball when they wanted to.
I don't think brock Purdy had to make any throws
in tough, tight windows. Receivers were open. The Jets defense stiffened,
and they forced the Niners to kick six field goals
or this would have been really out of hand. But
(21:33):
I'm okay. And not just because the Mets won and
the Braves lost. I mean I am okay because of that.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Well, I mean that does help you're you're you at
least bring you back to even Yeah, Mets one, and
then you'll get some chocolates.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, you'll be fine chocolate. But there's there's three things
that I sit back and go, Okay, you know what,
It's fine. It's not doom and gloom. It's not the
end of the world. Did I want to win tonight, Yes,
But here's three things. And this this is universal about
the Jets Week one playing out San Francisco. Who's supposed
to win this game? Forty nine ers, right, forty nine
(22:05):
They've been in the Super Bowl last year, they're loaded,
most talented roster in the game. Yes, did not have
Christian McCaffrey for the beginning of the game, but this
is still a game the forty nine ers were supposed
to win.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But the overarching media story was that it was too
noisy this offseason. It was too noisy, so they were
not going to be prepared and together.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean Peyton Manning lost his mind.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
When you dropped that would be touchdown on the Manning cast,
which is making the rounds virally.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Saying hey, if you were in camp yet had some
time together, you would have caught that pass. He looked
like he wanted to throw a football through a through
a window. Now that's a no. I'll throw a football
over that mountain. Now that's a that's a that's a
different conversation, which we'll have that.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
But it was supposed to be too noisy. Great opportunity
for the Jets.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
This is still a team that is coming off a
Super Bowl again third year in a row, with probably
the most talented roster in the NFL. They're supposed to
win this game at home Monday Night Football, Week one.
So in the end, the Jets winning this game. If
the Jets it opened up on the road Monday Night
Football against the Titans and looked like this, they at
the Titans next week, I'd be concerned. They look like
(23:12):
this against the Panthers Week one, I'd be really concerned.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, you want to talk about optimism and excitement.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Wown.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I mean that's Leo DiCaprio flamethrower to.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
H good God. But a week one they're supposed to
lose to the nut None is supposed to win this game,
and they did. This is an eye opening game for
a defense that talked all kinds of trash in the offseason.
The Jets always want to win the offseason. All we've
heard from the Jets how great this defense is, and
it is a great deal.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You know what would have been better if that guy
Reddick was around. I don't mean Vin Diesel and.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Maybe he and DJ the Chronicles of Reddick Willie Shaw.
I mean, maybe the Jets now find some extra cash
to give to side.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I was going to say, there's gonna be a little
restructuring of dollars that they.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Look like was getting to the quarterback. The problem tonight, No,
wasn't the problem. It was toughness in the defensive interior
and getting run over. This is not how the Jets
play defensively. This is not a team that gets running
lanes opened up on them regularly like they did tonight
with Jordan Mason running the football. Anybody Jordan Mace had
a big night. Anybody would have run through those holes.
(24:20):
He had his choice of lent. Do I want to
go lane one? It's like me at the supermarket. Well,
lane one looks like it's open. I could get up
lane two as someone behind Lane three is open. Lane
four is open. So single guy four items no chick check,
I get back there. They were just blowing the Jets
off the line. Michael Clemens had a horrendous game. They aired.
They aimed so much of their running game at him.
(24:40):
When they threw the football, guys were open right. There
was no tight coverage, there was no Rock Purty had
to get the ball in on this. There were players
who were just how is no one covering George Kittle right?
How is deebo that way? How is Jennings opened by
five yards right? And there was weird things happening. Sauce
Gardner was out for a big series for so reason.
We don't know why. This is an attention grabbing moment
(25:04):
for the Jets, where Okay, you know what, maybe we're
believing our hype a little bit too much and look
at what happened to us against a good team.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, sometimes you need to get punched in the mouth, right, right,
and this is there's no better team to do it
than one that loves to run, right. We've got very
few of those in the National Football League. Looks like
all our presupposition and theory testing of the Harbaugh led Chargers, Yeah,
they're gonna do They're gonna try to punch in the
(25:31):
mouth and run the ball. Okay, fine, Baltimore to a degree,
still gonna do that in theory more with dry Henry,
but there's very few teams in this case. You knew
what the forty nine Ers were going to bring at
you and it didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Now this gets your attention. Okay, we were not ready
for this game. We're not ready for what they had.
We did a little too much talking. So I firmly
believe this is this is one of those Hey, you're
gonna see a different Jets defense next week in the
week after. But you also playing a team that was
the co favorite for the Super Bowl. You're playing the
forty nine Ers at home on a Monday night. They're
supposed to win the game.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean it was again only a field goal spread
only four and a half all off season, so you
know the expectation was that the Jets were going to
come in and give a better effort, Like that's the
thing I'd be concerned about, just the fact that he
got run off the board. But again, you're playing a
great team. Now it's Tennessee, followed by New England one
(26:24):
and on New England, and then you've got Denver in theory,
in theory, you've got a three game winning streak. It
should be but again Robert Sala and then you'll face
Sam Darnold in week five. And the third part of
it is this not that he made it past Snap five,
the Snap four disaster, which was an Allen Lazard drop.
(26:44):
But Aaron Rodgers as the game went on, you could
tell it looked a little more comfortable. I saw his
body language at the end of the game, after the
game was over. It was laughing at midfield. I'm sure
for him, all the tough talking that he did. Making
it through this game still showing he could throw the
football because he led a couple of nice drives, didn't
look like Aaron Rodgers was suddenly as washed did make
(27:06):
some big throws, was able to get the ball to
Garrett Wilson a few times. So this was a big
positive for him in that Okay, I feel good going
forward that, Hey, he got the first game under him,
He walked off the field. It was the Niners who
have a hillacious defense. He only got sacked once. He
still showed some escapability getting outside the pocket, being able
(27:26):
to throw the ball away. You know, a lot of
that is in your mind till you play your first game.
And so from that perspective, and the Jets did move
the ball a little bit, I feel good about that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Now. The bad stuff is, I don't feel they were
ready for week one, but this happened. And going forward,
are all of these things either correctible or something that
you were building off of. And the check mark goes
to all of those right away from week one against
the Niners. Okay, great, right now you expect the Niners
be better than the Jets. Got it? Will the defense
played better? Now that yes, check got it? Is Aaron
(27:57):
Rodgers better place for him mentally going through a game
playing with his teammates. Remember sitting out all preseason, not
playing any game situations. Yes, he played in the joint practices,
but it's a different thing to tee it up for real,
especially when you know he had everything going into last
year and then four snaps and he's done. So there's
that mental hurdle for him as well, and I think
you're gonna see him starting to play more Aaron Rodgers
(28:19):
type football than we expected. So I feel good all
the way through. Okay, they lost. I was a mad
while it's going on, a mad scene. Lane's getting blown
wide open in the Jets, and well, what are they doing?
What is happening? I'll break what are you calling defensively?
But then the game ends and I realize, Okay, in
the end, it would have been a bonus to win.
(28:40):
This is stuff that's correctable. Aaron Rodgers looks good. I
didn't feel like boy no arm strength or he's shying
away from both. No, he made some good throws. He
looked like he could throw the ball deep. The touchdown
passed the lizard where you could tell I got a
free play with a jumping off sides. I know I
might get hit, but I'm delivering that football and we
scored a touchdown. I feel fine about the Jets going
forward now if they if they don't get out of
(29:02):
this next couple of weeks three one, that's a different store.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
For for this week, you take what it is and
we will look at the slate all the across the border,
men highs and lows and and everybody losing their minds.
I did myself a favor and I dialed up the
hometown radio station for a bit and sampled some bear's
talk coming out of the wind over Tennessee. And you
would have thought they lost forty eight to nothing. Uh,
(29:30):
listening to callers and to some of their hosts all night,
it's like you got a w right, you can you
can only get better now. Roma Dunsday being out for
indefinitely with a knee injury after hopping off the field
not something you want to see in your in your breakdown.
But the reality is everybody's got vast room for improvement.
Like this is not the high water bark for anybody
(29:52):
in the Nash And if it is, you got problems right,
Like you know in terms of health, you know we're
gonna have to watch because you had a lot of
big injur here how quickly guys can get back on
the field. And if they do, you know, we're talking
percentages and trying to force yourself back into action because
you consider yourself a contender, et cetera. But for the
Jets in Week one, I'd be moderately concerned that you
(30:14):
got run over, but Trent Williams was there playing a
lot of snaps and you expected them to be able
to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
If this happened in week fifteen, I would be concerned that, Wow,
we're not playing our best football against really good team.
As you're coming down the stretch, this is where it's
supposed to be. But that's it.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
It's like the learning curve and getting acclimated once again
into the field. I think Alan Lazar is a guy
Fantasy owners are gonna have to desire how much of
their fab budget they're putting there because he's your number two.
Whether you like it or not. Mike Williams could be
on the field, he may be running sprints. Aaron Rodgers
likes throwing the ball to Alan Lazard, and that was
(30:49):
the thing to me, that the fact that he had
the arm action to get it out to the edges right,
that there was no question about that at all, and
that free play. I still wonder why that wasn't whistled
dead base done where the defensive end was in the
defensive bag, because I think it was Floyd that was
looking to come get him again. So you got that
for you too. But the linebacker just freezes and letslizard
(31:12):
run past him. It all counts just the same. It's
a touchdown. Thirty two to nineteen. The forty three over
under gets bypassed as we got into the fourth.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
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Speaker 1 (31:29):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. So the forty nine Ers win over the
Jets thirty two nineteen. You think the Niners have no problems, Well,
wait a minute, maybe the NFL will award the Jets
another fifteen points after what we're gonna tell you penalties.
Big story tonight, obviously. In warm ups, Christian McCaffrey ruled
(31:52):
out for the forty nine Ers. Jordan Mason took over,
had a big game, huge end, ride him to victory. Yeah,
thirty two nineteen. The one thousand and eighty fifth score,
agami real thirty nineteen. It's never been had, so now
we checked the box. He go on, but I'm pretty
(32:14):
sure the Niners are gonna wind up a little bit
light in the pocketbook, because I don't know that they
were super transparent with the NFL. Because Christian McCaffrey was
going to play, everything was fine, Shanahan said, so on
Fir Shanahan said he was set to start. However, Jordan
Mason was asked after the game today when he knew
(32:35):
he was going to start, And this is what Jordan
Mason said, Why.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Did you find out? Was not found out? Maybe Faddy
Baddy Knight? You don't call that? No?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Wait waita wait? What wait what?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Wait wait a minute, Wait a minute. Wait Friday night,
So he's known for a couple of days he was
going to start. Now, what's Kyle Shanahan going to say
about that? No, no, wait a minute. I think someone's misremembering.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Jordan said after the game he was told on Friday
night and he was gonna start.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
When did Christian start?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
With the feeling a ry?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I never told Jordan he's gonna start. Told me he
had to be ready a bunch. But I might have
been Bobby or somebody trying to pump him up, but
I knew he was gonna have to play a lot
and told him that he was gonna have to was
gonna be like usual, he's gonna be a number two
back that was splitting a lot of the time. But
now he didn't know he for sure was doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Till the day. Yeah, uh huh, Yeah, I believe that.
I believe that matters. Like I said, anybody would have
run through the jetstal. But you prepared for McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You prepared for his skill set, and you got Jordan
Mason instead.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I prepared for the best running back in the game,
and I got someone not nearly as good. And I'm
upset about that. That is right. We weren't prepared. We
let our foot off the gas, and look what happened.
The question was when did you know you were gonna start?
Maybe Friday? So yeah, do I do? I think now
after this, suddenly Christian McCaffrey's ruled out. No, I'm sure
(34:04):
there's gonna be some kind of fine. This is not
how the NFL want is not anybody want, not how
any fantasy owners want it. Oh come on, man, I
can't pick up Jordan Mason. Somebody's already got him. I
gotta pick up Isaac Correndo. He's gonna give you a zero.
That's what I happened.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Zero Yeah, No, it's the tough process that because the
NFL has to do something on this, or at least
make the cursory phone call. And maybe Shanahan's telling the
absolute truth. I don't buy it, but maybe he is. Yeah,
here's where we would go on law and order and
I gotta see the luds. I gotta see the We
gotta dump all the phones and all the communication, find
(34:40):
out where he goes. Was there anybody present when they
had their conversation or did he go back? Is you
know a few good men? Where's anybody else in the room?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Okay, so you got that too. But it's it's that. Look,
we we talked about it last week. The estimate is
thirty five billion dollars being that legally on this sport.
When we talk about from from the different proprietors, different providers,
different league partners at this point that this is not
(35:15):
in the spirit or the letter of what you've been saying.
Was an important piece of communication all these years, because remember,
once upon a time when the injury report was out,
what did you say? It was for the gamblers period.
Now the other team prepares for your best.
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an extra five percent off. So yeah, I expect to
find to be coming to the forty nine ers. You
said we were gonna get the best running back, you
gave us a guy not as good, and you beat
us bad. Ah. I'm just gonna go over here. I
don't know what else to say. Sorry. Coming up next,
we have the big takeaway from this game. Forty nine
(36:14):
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