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Jason Smith: How can I explain the mystique of what watching Shohei Ohtani is like to the current generation: It's as if I was 10 years old again and got to see Ted Williams play.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:30):
I don't know that there's anything you can say at
this point. Greetings, Welcome in Side hour two The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon Game three
of the World Series. Just a few minutes ago we
told you about Wow. Lad Guerrero Junior. Big run all
the way around from first base on a double down

(00:50):
the line. He beats the throat of the plate. Taska Hernandez,
who is terrible in the field. Okay, five four Blue
Jays with the lead show. Hey, Tawani has just hit
his second home run of the game, to go along
with two doubles. He is now four for four through
seven innings, two doubles, two home runs. Blue Jays and

(01:14):
the Dodgers are tied at five apiece. And I really
I was thinking about this. You watch it at the
home run and it's just it's insane what he's doing.
And what do you have the stat No one's done this.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Since frank Is Bill of the nineteen oh six White
Sox sweat beat the Cubs.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Four extra base hits in a World Series game. Since
nineteen oh sixteen. Nineteen oh six ball Cubs, White Sox. Wow,
how about that? Okay, the early days of Charlie were
there were fourteenth it Wasnke Samson, there was the Yankees,
the White Sox, the Cubs, and the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Somebody else called the grand Stand. No, the Red Stockings. No,
I mean, look, yes, it is the Cincinnati Red Stockings.
They beat the Cleveland Spiders, what had just been in
the middle of a season.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
But I mean he kind of looks like our guy Patrick,
who's helping.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, get nineteen oh six, sure, Bacocards, sure that
I'm looking at here. But uh yeah, that's that's how
far we go back to trying to figure out how
do you explain Otani?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
This is this is what I'm This is the best
way for me to do this, Okay, And I really
this may help encompass Otani right. We get used to
seeing greatness a lot in sports. Right, We've seen we've
seen great quarterbacks. But then again, there's always great quarterbacks. Right.
We've seen great baseball players, always great baseball player. We
see great point guards. Is great point guards. But we
talk about show Heyotani being the greatest baseball player that

(02:37):
any of us have seen in our lifetime. Okay, we
got that, right, But you think, okay, yeah, I see
and there's nobody better than Altani. Here we are recency
seeing Otani. But this is now how I think about Otani, right,
because I think about it from a different perspective, right,
because I used to look at it like all the
baseball I have seen, Who is someone that I can
compare to show Heyotani? Right, who is someone who is comparable?

(02:59):
Can you compare Hank Aaron who was the very end
of his career when I started watching baseball in the
mid seventies, And then you look at somebody like, well,
is maybe at his peak, Miguel Cabrera was so good,
And you think about other players in the eighties and
Mike Schmidt and Derek Jeter and all around, and I
think the best way to explain it is this when
I was young growing up, and it was, you know,

(03:21):
seventies and eighties, and you know, I obviously you know,
I grew up on baseball and everything else. And I
don't know how I became a Mets fan. I should
have been a Yankees fan. But growing up, and you know,
when you were younger, and I you know, a lot
of kids still do it now, but I don't know
they do it as much. But when you grow up
in baseball was the big sport, baseball and football, and
you like basketball and hockey. Do baseball and football always
the most popular? Is you spent time reading about the

(03:45):
history of the game and reading about the players who
came before and what it was like, and you hear
stuff like Babe Ruth and you're like, oh, I bet
Babe Ruth is. So it's so abstract because there's hardly
any video. You just get that real fast moving video
of Babe Ruth once I have all those feet moving, baby,
come on. But this is how I feel about show

(04:06):
heyo tani, is that I think about it like this.
If I was growing up in the eighties, right in
the early eight late seventies, early eighties, and I got
to watch Ted Williams play like, that's kind of how
I feel about seeing show Hao Tani now and explaining
just how good a player he is. Getting to see this,

(04:26):
I kind of feel like it's like if I was
that young, and because all I did was hear about
Ted Williams is always everybody's always telling me, the greatest
player that you've ever seen, greatest hitter, the way what
he could do. They shifted on him. It didn't matter. Yeah,
but anything. No he didn't pitch, No, he didn't pitch.
But it's it's the it's the impact of what we're seeing.
Was show Hao Tani, and it would be it would

(04:47):
be me hearing the stories about Ted Williams and I
heard you. I heard all the Willie May stories too.
But Ted Williams always was the way the guy hit.
It was not unlike anything you could ever see. And
and big home runs, the ephis pitch home running, the
All Star Our Game, how he was able to hit,
the last guy to hit four hundred Major League Baseball.
All of these things are like, that's how big of
a person Ted Williams was. When I would would think

(05:11):
about baseball and think about the guys that I'd get
to see and these were all like in the eighties
and late seventies, and I would read about guys like Okay, yeah,
I was thirty forty years ago where Joe Demaggio was
this good, and here was Ted Williams, here was Stan Musial, right,
and here's all as like okay and Bob Feller and
all these great players Like okay, because now I'm going
back that same amount of time from now to that
point in my life. So I think about that like

(05:33):
like that point, you know, like say nineties, nineteen eighty
is that number? Is that to think back thirty five
forty years? That's kind of what I feel like I'm
watching is seeing show Hey O Tani is like if
I was this young and this generation gets to see
Ted Williams or Demaggio or Musual, but really Williams is
the guy because he just has that mythic quality about him,
not all this crazy stuff that happened to him later on.

(05:55):
But just think about that, like that's how I feel like,
that's how we should be looking at show Hey Tony
and what he's been able to do so far because
continually he does things that we have never seen before. Well,
Ted Williams you also had the extra mystique of a
lot of photos where him and his pilots outfit.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah yeah, and the year's lost there and try to
do the comparatives.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
And certainly you know growing up in Chicago, Uh, and
what we do these stat polls and we talk about
it with Steve de Seger and and we we try
to contextualize it all you know, Frostburg and and we
we try to find these numbers. Like for Frank Thomas,
it was always the here's how he compares to to

(06:36):
Ted Williams. Here's how he compared. And we did that
same thing with Mike trout right. It was there were
always those those hallmarks, those benchmark guys Mays and Mantle
and Ted Williams. All Right, how do their numbers compare?
When you start talking about guys hitting for power uh
and for average?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
So like I pull it back to that.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And then certainly you know guys like Tony Gwynn and
the professional hitters, that's a that's a whole other category.
But yeah, guys that became the all right, let's do
the comparisons. Generation to generation. There were those handful of
guys that stood out what we're watching with Otani night
after night and then tomorrow we're.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Gonna get to watch him pitch. Like that's the thing.
I'm watching this now.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm like, I'm already anticipating, all right, I want the
next act. Yeah, this what's not done yet. I mean,
he's still gonna get another red bet before this is done.
But it's just that anticipatory, like what's next? How do
you compare it to a guy to something you've never seen?
And you mentioned Babe Ruth off the jump. Yeah, we
got a little bit of video and we've got some
box scores, and then there's always that how great are

(07:37):
these records? We talk era to era when you know
you had, you know, races of people that were not
allowed to play and all of this that, you know,
you try to grab it in the big bear hug
and just the hyperbolegue go and words fail right when
we're watching, like all of us stood up and stared
at the screen as that ball sailed into the night

(07:59):
for his second home right the night, going what the
hell's going on here?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Like what am I watching? I mean, we're just certain
things that Otani can do. That's just it's it's eye opening, right,
and and the main thing you're seeing. Now, Look you
talk about a guy on a heater, right like now
in you know, home home, and now we want seven
for seven in the playoffs, in in the World Series.
Now I don't understand, right, And this, this is what

(08:24):
I don't get. It's one out in the bottom of
the seventh inning. He's already got two, two doubles and
a homer against you tonight. How do you not walk him?
If you're the Blue Jams, just plunk him? How do
you not walk him? I don't want to walk you.
I want to hit you because I want you to
feel it going down to first base. Like, I don't
understand how you don't walk him at that point if
you're Toronto, Like, realize, what what? What? Why are you

(08:47):
doing this again? Two doubles and a homer and he's
hitting the ball to the opposite field now, something he
hasn't done in a while. Like, I don't understand how
you don't just walk him at that point. It's a
nobody out, nobody on. Yeah, I see it, but you
have one out and you know Mookie BET's coming up
next to Mookie Bets is not getting the bat of
the ball at all. Okay, so yeah, could technically O'tani
get the second. Maybe he steals second. Yeah, but you're

(09:08):
putting him on again. Two doubles in a homer. Put
him at first base, put him at first bet, send
him down to first base. Let somebody else beat you.
Instead of saying, okay, we feel good. You did everything
you could tonight, moving pictures around to come in and
pitch the show. Hey, Otani, I don't care if it's sureser.
I don't care if it's a lefty. I don't care
if you bring in Dave Steve. I don't care if
you bring in Dave Stewart. I don't care if Tom

(09:28):
Hanky comes in. I don't care if Mike Timlin comes in. Right,
you bring in all the great closers of the Blue Dead,
I don't care who comes in. You have a bad
obsession with Timlin. I am I am going. I am
gonna make what's going on there. I don't get Mike No, no,
the two best closers blue Jay's history, or Tom Hanky
and Mike Timlin. That's when they want knock on your
door and say he's just here for the no no mister, heck,

(09:52):
but really, I don't know how you don't walk him.
I really, I know.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I know that's come back to bite teams a couple
of times, right with with Bett's drawing bases, loaded walks
and other things. But in this situation, yeah, I mean,
look what you did before, you tried to go to
the lefty thinking you were that's smart managing.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
He magnificentages Smith is. I'm bringing in someone else who's
able to get a hit better. But that, I mean,
this is so.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Now that he's up to two eighty three batting average
for the postseason, do people feel better?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Uh? Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get a lot
of O. Tani is overrated. Otani can't hit. He can't
hit in the clutch, can't hit in the playoffs, can't
do it. What have we seen him now? The last thay, okay,
so so a game unlike we've seen in the history
of Major League Baseball to close out the NLCS. Now
here is continually on a heater in the World Series
again tonight, two home runs, two doubles. He's got twelve

(10:44):
total bases on the game right now. He's gonna bat
again at least one more time. And h He's gonna
pitch tomorrow night. So yeah, I think I feel good
about Otani feeling that. Yeah, Okay, I think he's over
the slump. You want me to take it. He's over
the slump. I think he is.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
He's hitting five hundred playoffs on balls, back it in play.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
How about that? You take away those nineteen strikeouts. Third, well,
you can't take away the strike you get the boy
shuts the bat on the ball. Bad things for you, man,
What do you go from?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Reason you're struggling with this answer so much is because
it's not possible to compare him to anybody.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
It is.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
But but I'm saying, but what I mean Ted Williams
isn't even close to But the mystique of seeing him,
it's like what I was told my whole life, what
Ted Williams was this?

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Up right? No, but that But that's kind of the thing.
That's kind of what it is. It's kind of new.
How do you how do you you know? How do
you mistique of who the best player was that you
then hear about for you? Even better than that? Though, Yeah,
you can't compare him. Oh no, no, hey I'm not
I'm not. Well.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Look Ted Williams things Babe Ruth never did, and Baboo
is considered the greatest player ever.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, yeah, but but hey, he can go nine for
nine and nine. I don't think Otani's eating that one level.
Ted Williams did some incredible thing. He also went to
go fight in World War Two for a couple of
he's never done three years off his h No, he's
never pitched. He's never pitched. He's never done that, and
I and I get that. But the mystique wise of
it is what it's like just to seeing him. Who's

(12:10):
Who's a player you can think of as a kid,
that boy I wish I would have been able to
get a chance to see and oh look and I
saw great players growing up. I saw great player. I
love seeing Pete Rose play, right, I love seeing these guys.
These are all these are all legends of the game.
But nobody's as good as Shoe Hayo Tani. So you
go back and you think it was anybody ever as
good as Ted Williams. So that's why it's like, if
I got to see Ted Williams play, is what the

(12:31):
generation right now is getting to see with Shoe Hao Tani.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, but that's the thing right with Thoughtani, they you
can pull a bunch of his Ruth numbers for you
and I. Growing up, everything was compared to like the
first five years or six years of Ted Williams' career. Right,
So when you'd have Mike Trout, when you'd have Frank Thomas,
when you'd have somebody go off to a tremendous run.
I mean, look at Don Mattingly his first couple of years, right,

(12:54):
I mean, ridiculous start with the Yankees. It became a
all right, how does he compare to the Yankee greats
in the past, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's just the next generation, the next comparison, And in
this case, it's writing a whole other chapter that will
compare kids twenty five years from now, when I'm old
and gray and sitting.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
In a rocking chair. It's an incredible night so far,
and it's still going too big updates. The Dodgers have
brought in Roki Sasaki. Dave Roberts not messing around anymore.
With one out in the eighth inning, Sasaki comes in
to try to quell the Blue Jays rally. Blue Jay's
had first and second with one out and Sasaki gets

(13:32):
a ground out to third for the second out, So
trying to put out the fire here at the top
of the eighth inning for the Dodgers. Meanwhile, coming off
a fifty point game, the Lakers have absolutely nobody playing
for them to night. I think they're actually only have
five guys because they have seven players who are outside,
including Luka Doncic. Austin Reeves already has fifteen let's go

(13:53):
through the first quarter. He is on pace for sixty
tonight for the Again, the tendonnight is in that shoulder.
You gotta watch out here.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean, these guys are gonna both be on the
shelf by Chris Austin Reeves already has fifteen.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Through the first quarter for the Lakers. They trail the
Blazes right now, though thirty one to twenty six coming
up next. We have more in the Big Night in
the NBA. We have more in the Big Night at
the World Series. Roki Sasaki has just made an incredible
defensive play that should have been a base it up
the middle. He gets the out at first base and

(14:26):
the Dodgers get out of the inning five to five.
Going to the bottom of the eighth. We have more
on these games and also it is now over on
Monday night in Kansas City, the Chiefs win at twenty
eight to seven. We have a big midway point of
the NFL season conversation coming your way next right here,
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Big stuff going on right now. Game
three of the World Series. This time it counts the
heroics of show Hey Otani and Roki Sasaki. It is
a five five game, Blue Jayson Dodgers as they head

(16:59):
to the ninth at Chavez Ravine. This has been Look,
this has been an absolute instant classic of a game.
And what gets you to point where you understand how
a classica game is is that they were really really
bad base running mistakes. Oh it's been this game and
really bad big blunder, really bad, really bad. But they

(17:19):
don't matter. It's like it's like that was like like
three weeks ago. It was three hours ago. Yeah, it
was a lot. Yes, this is a long game. It
is a long game. Hey Fox, Yeah, we have hit
the three hour market. We are rolling through it. But
like you had Freddie Freeman make a really bad base
running mistake. You had a really bad base running mistake
by Boba. Shit, you had a bad one by to
Oscar Hernandez. But yeah, it doesn't matter. That's it. It

(17:40):
was all it was.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
It was like it was like last season. Yeah, I
remember that happened. It was so long ago. We got
a bunch of home runs. Oh my god, it all
just boils back down to Wow, you know people can
try to uh pour some some salt, you know, or
dash the the excitement of it all. Whatever analogy, whatever

(18:02):
phraseology you want to do, and try to minimize his impact.
But tell me, tell me there's anybody that you just
stop what you're doing to turn a full attention.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
When he walks to the plate, two home runs, two doubles,
I guarantee you the entire world will tune into his
final life bat Uh. Well, I want to see these
shot ratings on Fox when that the entire world is
going to come Toddy's up. Tune in, tune in.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I mean I'm getting updates off by because you know,
we've got all all our subscriptions to all our streaming services.
Apple TV is reminding me when he's coming up to bat.
Oh that's good, okay, good because anything you got the
baseball package on Friday night, Still time to buy Apple
TV until it's like, hey, he's on deck, Like I'm
getting like little blips and notices on on my iPad,

(18:52):
on my phone whatever, just hey, reminder he's coming up.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Jason, you want to mess with your dad? Go ahead,
what do you want?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
What?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Tell him?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Is it bet is on Apple TV tonight you want.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
My dad right now is enjoying the two screen experience
of the game in n C I s U s. Yeah,
you'd scre justin now. He would throw his TV out
the window. What was that? What was it the made
for TV movie where Elvis shot his TV? Right, That's
what my dad would do. But he doesn't have a gun.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Would just shoot his Tell them, I find it hard
to believe that your dad doesn't own a gun.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
No, no, my dad, No, no, no, no, my dad.
My dad was he was in Vietnam. He was You
ever heard of Vietnam? Larry? You ever heard of that? Larry?
This is your homework. Waldo Walter uh Roki Sasaki in
for his second inning of relief in this game. He
gets the first out of the inning, a flyout. He
gets Lad Junior to fly out to right field. So

(19:50):
this is both of these teams you feel like they
are in an all or nothing kind of game. Like
we got like we are pulling out We're not saving
anything at any point for any moment, even though we
have a tomorrow. We're pulling out all the stops for
this game. Today. It's a heavyweight fight.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean they just showed the replay of the inning
ending ground ball from from last inning, the high chopper
that Sasaki speared and seems shocked that he did right less,
No Cone gets it under and then he goes to
underhand toss it to Freeman who goes down and gets
it out of the dirt, and then he just pauses
and lets out this big exhale and a giant smile

(20:26):
like that that I want.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I want an old sport Flix card of that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Right, like a panel kind of thing where I see
the reaction to hey, I got this, to the toss
to the exhale and smile. I mean, just look, man,
it's been a wave of emotion half inning to half inning.
There's so much going on at Dodger Stadium with this game.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
And look, the point for the Toronto Blue Jays is
Sasaki is the last guy the Dodgers can trust. He's
the only guy out of the bullpen they can trust.
When they made the move out of the bullpen tonight,
it wasn't a great night for Tyler glasnow, but you
struggle bringing guys out of the bullpen, you lost the lead.
Soasaki is the last guy you can trust. The Blue
Jays just saying Okay, yeah, we want to try to

(21:08):
win this game here, but getting to that, back to
that soft underbelly of the Dodger bullpen, that's kind of
what we want to get to. And I don't know
to Sasaki have more after this inning. He's thrown fifteen
pitches so far, so depending how this goes, he could
have a tenth inning in him. But they're just trying.
Let's just extend the inning, man, Let's just extend as
long as we can, because who knows how much he
can he can really go.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Guy, he's a guy that wants to be among the games. Great, right,
he made that proclamation when he showed up to the stage.
So here's your opportunity. And however many pitches it takes.
Subplot to the game. Remember in the seventh inning off
a foul ball. Springer had to leave the game. So
he was one of the hottest hitters in balls that
was it didn't look good the tunnel.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
He got hurt taking a swing and that's one of
those oblique muscle pul and that's immediately the yack that's
not conducive to playing the next day or the day after.
That's one of those things. Not Yeah, I'm out of
the game and I can get back swinging a back tomorrow,
So I don't expect see George Springer in the line
at the next couple of days. Since you're playing back
to back, you're playing Tuesday Wednesday in LA. So that's

(22:12):
one of the best bats of the Blue Jay lineup.
I do not expect to see at least until the
series gets back to Toronto, if it does get back
to Toronto, depending on how this game.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
A lot being made to the fact that the Dodgers
faithful cheered loudly as he walked back.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
To the Yeah, they love George Springer in LSA. They
love George spring Yeah, great memories he's given him. So
more on the game coming up in a few minutes,
Steve just say you will have all the latest with
what's trending. But Monday Night football. The Chiefs, in a
very workmanlike way, defeat the Washington Commanders twenty eight to seven.
The game was close early a couple of interceptions by

(22:46):
Patrick Mahomes, the second one not his fall that bounces
off of Travis Kelce. You should make the catch into
a defender's hands, but it doesn't matter Kelsey more than
making up for it the rest of the way six
catches for ninety nine yards and a touchdown. The Chiefs
win at twenty eight to seven. And really, at this point,
I'd love to be able to tell you that someone
other than Patrick Mahomes is the NFL MVP. So I'll

(23:06):
save my hot take for who's right behind him. But
the way he is dragging this offense when they're not
getting anything running the football, like you finally got an
OK night from Isaiah Pachecko tonight he ran for fifty
eight yards. But clearly he's been their number one rusher
over the course of this season, right, Mahomes I think
has led them in rushing and I think in every

(23:29):
game but one so far this season. Right, So that's Mahomes.
And while the downfield ball wasn't there tonight for him,
it was a really difficult you know, it's a difficult
night because Washington really had a great athletic game plan
getting after him. They got in his lanes, they were
tipping some of his passes. He still found a way
to go for three hundred yards really two ninety nine

(23:49):
and throw for three touchdowns in this game. Patrick Mahomes
is dragging the Chiefs to the levels they're at right now,
which is making them think, Hey, we're five and three,
we withstood the injuries, we got Rashid Rice back, We're
a super Bowl contender. I'm not that high in the
chief super Bowl contender yet, but hey, five and three
is five and three midway point of the season. They

(24:10):
have had nothing going on offensively, and I was stock
up on Mahomes before the season. I said he's going
to go on a big Mahomes revenge tour after the
last two years of being a game manager. He's the MVP.
What he's doing without a lack of help around him
is why he's number one. But really, the guy right
on his tail and you saw him have another big
week this week is Daniel Jones. I mean, I know

(24:32):
that Daniel Jones. It's fashionable to kind of like Daniel Jones.
But wait a minute, wait, wait a minute, Jonathan Taylor's Hey,
he's really good running back and he's in the presence
of Taylor is kind of why I have I have
Jones second behind Mahomes here because yeah, Taylor's having a
really good year. But you but men again, MVP is
not the guy with the best stats what what's the
one big difference in Indianapolis this year has been Daniel Jones.

(24:57):
They tried same cast of characters last year. It was
still Jonathan Taylor, it was still Michael Pittman, it was
still Alec Pierce, it was still Josh Downs, right, it
was still Now you added Ty Warren, who's turned into
one of the top tight ends in the league. Okay,
that's great, but you change quarterbacks and all of a sudden,
this is a team that is the best team in
the AFC. They had the number two offense in the

(25:18):
game most points in the AFC. The difference is Daniel
Jones and his numbers are all in line with all
the other great quarterbacks. Right, yeah, well you got a couple,
yeah yeah, But you're talking about it's MVP. It's not
the guy with the best stats, right. People always confuse
that with MVP and Player of the Year. But right now,
like if you're saying, who's the guy right behind Mahomes,
is Daniel Jones. He's the difference in this team. You

(25:40):
can see what they were last year and where they
are now. Even look even me, I like to pat
myself on the back as much as possible for giving
you the Colts as a dark horse super Bowl team
last spring when they got Daniel Jones, He's gonna come in.
He's gonna fit in this offense. This is the system
for him. Even I didn't think it would be like this.
I didn't think we'd see anything close to what Daniel
Jones is putting up. It's two fifty three on the
yards and three touchdowns a week. And the way he

(26:02):
runs this offense, he goes deep down phield, he takes
advantage of of his players athleticism. The catch by Michael
Pittman yesterday when he just reaches back behind him at
the goal line, like I'm putting this ball up where
I know my guy's getting it or it's going to
fall in complete. What Eli Manning used to do so
great is that? Yeah, Oh Eli got lucky. No Eli knew.
I'll put this ball up here where Hakeem Knicks or

(26:23):
the defender is getting it, and I know that a
Keem Nicks is going to get this football, or I
know Victor Cruz is going to get this football. Like
That's what Dad. That's part of being a quarterback too,
is saying I know and I can take this chance
and the chances are it's going to work out for me.
So yeah, I have Mahomes number one, but Daniel Jones
is right on his heels. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Something we talked about a little bit the show I
do on Sunday Mornings with Greg Gosell talking about how
efficient they've been, an explosive on first down plays right
and first down passing to set up what Jonathan Taylor?
Then does you get to pull the strings? Now it's
curiosity because we've long talked about how great the roster
was for the Colts, yet every year they got the

(27:01):
quarterback position wrong, year after year after Hey, we could
get one more out of Phil, Now we can get
one more out of Matt Ryan.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Now Joe Flacco could have been elite.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Didn't want him around all that to say, you went
through just this running turnstile of quarterbacks around this roster
that you knew you had a good offensive line, you
had a strong back seven to get out of it,
and obviously Jonathan Taylor these last few years, and you
finally got the quarterback right. For Shane Steichen, I feared
that guy was gonna end up getting fired because they

(27:31):
didn't give him a quarterback to work with. That it's like,
all right, go coax whatever you can out of Anthony Richardson.
Now as we look at the awards right now, right
for the MVP odds, talk about this a little bit earlier.
You got Mahomes at the top at plus one sixty
off this latest list, I'm looking at Josh Allen, second,
Drake may Is, third, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, and then Jones.

(27:56):
Right now he's tied with Jordan Love And I could
make the argument for Jordan Love's and fantastic you get
Christian Watson back this week, go look for him on
your fantasy waiver wires.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
But and then you get Jonathan Taylor Baker. I feel
like I feel like every week with and this is
your point about about Jordan Lovest, every week, I feel
like I feel like nobody knows what receivers are playing
for Green Bay every week.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
We no one need that giant, no one, right, how
many guys like, look, what Craft has been doing is
just absurd, right, the tight end who was phenomenal in
a big spot last night against the Steelers, We've seen
him and he's their leading receiver by far. But then
we always have that graphic of all right, here's all
the guys with at least two hundred receiving yards and
it's like seven guys long. And now you get Christian

(28:40):
Watson back in. So it's just that equitable distribution led
by Josh Jacobs in the backfield. But there's your leading
for the MVP as we get ready for the second
half of your NFL season, which is scary to think.
Fast up here we are, went here, we are well almost,
but seventeen weeks eight weeks were not there yet. We're
not there yet. It's like someone say, how old are you?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Not yet?

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I'm out, but you're gonna be fifteen in a couple
I know, but not yet. Not Ye are not there yet?
Don't Jakes me, I'm not there yet.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
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is why baseball is the best reason Number seventeen million,
four and seventy five thousand, the immediate chances players get
at redemption, Tommy Edmund costing the Dodgers the lead with

(29:49):
a bad fourth inning error. It turned a two nothing
Dodgers lead into a four to two deficit, preserving the
tie with one of the best heads up defensive plays
you will see, throwing a runner aud at third base
after a line drive goes off Freddie Freeman's glove, and
now the Dodgers go to the bottom of the ninth
inning still tied at five apiece.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
And the opposite of that with Taskar Hernandez tonight with
two hits, including the early home run, and then getting
thrown out at third and having an awful throw at
the plate. Our John Morosi said, not sure I've seen
a World Series game with two throws from the right
side of the infield like we've seen from Edmund. And
Vladimir Guerrero Junior, who had a gun from first to
get Taoscar Hernandez at third base. However, it ends this

(30:31):
is one of the best World Series games in recent
years and absolute classic. Developing on Fox TV at Dodger
Stadium right now. Blue Jays five, Dodgers five. They're going
to the bottom of the ninth. The series tied. At
a game apiece show. Hey Otani is tomorrow Night's starting
pitcher against Shane Bieber of the Blue Jays, who is

(30:51):
from southern California. Otani at the plate tonight, who's been
red hot groundrul double solo homer, RBI double Rolo homer
to tie it, Andy Pays, the nine hitter is going
to be batting first. Everyone is getting him out this month.
He is four for forty seven at the plate, and
then we'll be going to the top of the order

(31:12):
with Otani four for four and Mookie Betts who's zero
for four bets. Earlier today was named the winner of
this year's Roberto Clemente Award for his community involvement. By
the way, the Orioles officially have a new manager, Craig Albernaz,
who was an assistant in Cleveland. Baltimore just finished last
in the Al East. In Kansas City, the Monday night

(31:32):
football game went to the Chiefs over Washington twenty eight
to seven. Washington on the road one and four this year,
Chiefs in home games four and one. Patrick mahomes with
three touchdown passes in the second half. He finished with
two hundred and ninety nine yards through the air two interceptions.
Rashi Rice nine catches ninety three yards in a score.
The Ravens expect quarterback Lamar Jackson to return this Thursday

(31:55):
night after missing three games with a hamstring injury. Jackson
was a full participant today's walkthrough. Vikings quarterback Carson Wentz
will have season ending shoulder surgery. Quarterback JJ McCarthy is
expected to return this weekend. Wentz has started for six
teams in the last six years. He was sacked five
times last Thursday at the Chargers trying to play through pain.

(32:16):
Former running back Adrian Peterson was jailed in Texas after
an arrest for drunk driving, and this is his second
d WI arrest this year. The Rams wide receiver Pukinnacuas
should return this weekend after a sprained ankle. The Rams
acquired defensive back Roger McCreery from the Titans. The forty
nine Ers say quarterback Mac Jones is day to day
with a bruise knee. Quarterback brock Perty has a chance

(32:38):
to return for San Francisco this week after the toe injury.
The Bengals say quarterback Joe Flacco is day to day
with a sore shoulder, and Denver starred defensive back Patrick
Certan reportedly could miss Ford to six weeks with a
pectoral strain. He'll get a second opinion first in the NBA.
San Antonio's four to oh after beating Toronto. Philadelphia is

(32:59):
three to oh after beating Orlando. Chicago's three and oh
after edging Atlanta, defending champion Oklahoma City four and oh
after winning at Dallas one oh one ninety four. Cooper
Flag of the MAVs one for nine from the floor,
and the Mavericks will retire Mark Aguire's number twenty four
in January. He was drafted number one overall by Dallas

(33:19):
in nineteen eighty one. Only two NHL games wins for
Pittsburgh and Ottawa. Sensational ballgame going on tonight, bottom of
the ninth at Dodger Stadium, five five, Toronto and La
back to you.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Thank you, Steve. Though anything, this is how great of
an all time classic game this is is that you
get to all the twists and turns and oh, by
the oh yeah, show heyl Tani two home runs and
two doubles, something hasn'ten done since nineteen oh six.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Somewhere down the list. Yeah, four extra base hits in
a World Series game. The fact that Guerrero Junior, not
just at first base, defensively threw a guy out if
you scored from.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
First on a single. He's also having an incredible game,
but picking a bad time to have that game, considering
Otani's and then and Otani's on deck and.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
The strange thing he scored from first on the single
because the ball didn't go straight down the line to
the right fielder admit an odd care m off the sidewall.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
So here we are, ninth inning, five to five, Blue
Jayson Dodgers show, Hey, Otani is on deck? Coming up next?
Are we talking about a third home run for Otani
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(34:33):
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code jss A DraftKings Code jss A DraftKings. The crown
is yours. We are headed to the tenth inning of
Game three of the World Series. Show. Heotani was walked intentionally.
It was a great at bat by Andy Pahes, and
really the pressure would have been put on the Blue
Jays had been able to get on base, because then

(35:15):
can you really walk Otani and put the winning run
at second. Pahes runs the count full, pops up to second.
Otani has walked intentionally. He tries to steal second. He
is safe at second. On the initial throw down. However,
Otani comes up, comes off the bag and the tag

(35:36):
is made and he has ruled out the Dodgers appeal.
But you can see kind of Falifa keeps the glove
on him as he comes off the bag, and Otani
is ruled out. Mookie Bets pops up to end the inning.
We go to the tenth inning, and honestly, the first
time I saw this, I said, Okay, the tag is
on Otani while he's on the bag. But then Otani

(35:59):
comes off, but he keeps the glove up there right,
doesn't move it, which is an awesome thing. Keeps the
glove there, and he had a path to the bag,
so it's not like Otani was. But he, you know,
he kind of came in on the outside of the
bag what you're supposed to do, and coming in so
fast his slide he didn't get to keep his lead
foot on the base. It pops up, he comes off,
the tag is made. Instead of the winning run at

(36:20):
second with one out, Otani has thrown out great throw
down a second by Kirk. It's right there. And so
now we go to the tenth inning and it's Shean
in for the Dodgers. Clayton Kershaw was up in the
bullpen last inning, but the Dodgers going to she and
now it was two great innings of relief from Roki Sasaki.
So now here now it's the wild West Dodgers, but
Dodgers bullpen has nobody left you can trust, right So,

(36:43):
unless you're bringing Otanian and you're gonna figure something else
out for tomorrow, it's the wild West right now. Anything
can happen this game. It's just been amazing.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
And we were laughing as we're watching the inning, like
what else can he do steal a base? And then
sure enough he drives to steal a base. The reaction
shot Dave Roberts in the dugout.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Oh yeah, Robbins.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Salty because he gets there but with the slide pops up,
helped a little bit by the tag and then you have.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Roberts that slow motion. It's so good.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
But yeah, we go to the tenth Free Baseball and
the Stars are certainly out.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
They're still there into the tenth. Nobody leaving their seats
in this one. No look, and this this is it's
an all time classic World Series game already, regardless as
to how this ends, and it look it's gonna end
with something crazy. We're in extra innings already. Uh. The
reason you know this is because, and I'll say this
like this, is that we have a four hour show
every night, right we come on seven o'clock Pacific time,

(37:43):
ten o'clock on the East Coast. We go late night.
We go four hours. If we were starting this show
right after the game was over, let's say we started
right after the game was over. We could go four
hours with different topics from this game and never repeat anything. Now, Lily,
you'd want to be because Otani's not at the plate
so far, we haven't seen in World Series history in

(38:04):
one hundred and twenty years, almost nineteen oh six, the
last time a player had four extra base hits in
a game. In a World Series game, Otani's got two
home runs and two doubles. The base running adventures that
both teams have had that have cost them runs in
this game, the errors that have been made by both teams,
and yet redemptive plays like Tommy Edmond keeping this game

(38:26):
a tie by making a great heads up play a
line drive down the first base line where he gets
the ball off of ricochet off of Freddie Freeman's glove
throws to get the lead runner at third, which is
why he went to the bottom of the ninth inning
with the game still tied at five. There is so
much drama pitching decisions who who Dave Roberts brings in
at what time? Not rookie Sasaki in a higher leverage situation,
he waits till the eighth inning. This game is it's

(38:49):
got so many twists and turns, plus such a big
game as well. You know what the odds are winning
the World Series if you win game three after a
tide series. That's all the stakes that are around out
right now. And you can tell, even though there's games
the next two days, neither team is playing for tomorrow.
They're playing for we win this game tonight and then
we'll have twelve hours or fifteen hours to figure out

(39:10):
what we're gonna do for Game four.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So many subplots and obviously, because of Major League Baseball
rules for those un aware, we can't play the highlights,
so we have to kind of describe it. We can't
let you know the booth do it for you, so
we bring it to you as it's coming together, live
and in living color. Just absolute insanity in this game.
The know Tani story is the you know that's the

(39:35):
latent fire like the slow cooker. We know it's there
and we get to go back into the heroics, but
just the moment to moment, big headline kind of decisions,
gaps all of that redemption arcs for all of these guys, Edmund,
tay Oscar, who was a hero turned goat, Edmund goat
turned hero. I mean, there's just so much in Sasaki

(39:57):
making that play on the mound, stabbing that come back
her up the middle, Like it's just been insane. How
we've watched the twist and turn and look, I've said
it a couple of times before. Uh, the Dodger defense
is going to find a way to affect this game.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
We talked about that early and now we have it again.
Ta Oscar Hernandez. Okay, he's made two horrendous plays. What
you said, right, Jason, and he has just thrown the
go ahead run out at the plate to end the
tenth inning. Emmett Chian gets hit pretty hard a line

(40:39):
drive down the line and ta Oscar Nandez again, big
home run, tonight, awful base running, awful defensive play. He
throws the runner out at I mean, but he makes
a great because we had the bad throat of the
plate earlier that cost him a run to and Hernandez
makes the right play. Edmund makes the right throw and

(41:01):
now We're going to the bottom of the tenth inning
and the game is tied at five apiece. They're reviewing
the play, but clearly this is an out call at
home plate. Again, I don't know what else we're going
to get at this point. They're looking at to see
if maybe Smith was blocking the plate and there was
no path to plate for the runner, but the call
in the field was out and they're looking at it
right now.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, the ball's there. It beats the runner by a
couple of steps. He goes to sweep long before the
slide is initiated.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
He does, He does stick his left foot out. This
could be an interesting review. Keep it right here. We
are rolling one of the greatest World Series games you'll
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